"xpt_config still waiting" solved: bad disk

2012-01-16 Thread freebsd-stable
Hi..

I just wanted to report a bug with FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p5, as packaged
with FreeNAS 8.0.3.

A hard drive failed in a strange way, in that it was detected by the
computer's BIOS and firmware, but did not reply to information
requests from the kernel.  The boot process stopped with a series of
timeout messages, ending with the message:

run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 300 seconds for xpt_config

Removing the affected hard drive fixed the problem; the other 5
identical drives (3TB Hitachi SATA) in the system were unaffected, and
that SATA port was tested with a working drive and was ok.

So, the problem is hard to reproduce without a drive damaged this
particular way, but if you could allow booting to continue after this
error is triggered, that'd be helpful for future users.

Thanks.
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php5 port compile problem (start again)

2004-11-03 Thread freebsd-stable
Hi,

When I last asked about problems portinstalling php5 I was given this
advice:

> When compiling php 5 recently here is what i had to do
> i used the port in /usr/ports/lang/php5-extensions it gives you
> options for what kind of support you want (socket, ftp, etc) and it
> also installs php. You will probably have to recompile apache as well
> (I did)  but it was the best way i could get it to work.

and 

> What I found was that you need bind9 for php5, so install bind9 and your 
> problem is solved.

I found that trying to install the php5-extensions it failed in the same
place during php5 compilation so, biting the bullet, I installed the bind9
port today - but no luck!

Note that I tried with the php5-cgi port this time:

ext/standard/dns.o(.text+0x1a36): In function `zif_dns_get_record':
: undefined reference to `res_ninit'
ext/standard/dns.o(.text+0x1a9c): In function `zif_dns_get_record':
: undefined reference to `res_nmkquery'
ext/standard/dns.o(.text+0x1ace): In function `zif_dns_get_record':
: undefined reference to `res_nsend'
ext/standard/dns.o(.text+0x1c5a): In function `zif_dns_get_record':
: undefined reference to `res_nclose'
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/www/php5-cgi/work/php-5.0.2.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/www/php5-cgi.

Now what do I do?

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4.x can't read 5.x dump?

2004-12-01 Thread freebsd-stable
Hi,

I'm backing up a 5.x machine at the moment with this command:

dump -0Lau -b128 -f - /var | gzip -2 | ssh FreeBSD4 dd of=aacd0s1f.gz

After the dump finishes, I try to read the file on the 4.x destination:

# gzip -dc aacd0s1a.gz | restore -ivf -
Verify tape and initialize maps
Tape is not a dump tape

I can scp the file back to the 5.x machine and it loads just fine, so what
gives? This type of failure is somewhat scary for me right now, given that
I may have to restore files to another destination that may not be 5.x
based.

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Re: FreeBSD 6.1-RC2 available

2006-05-04 Thread freebsd-stable
Scott Long wrote:
> FreeBSD 6.1-RC2 is available for download.  This is the last RC before
> the release.

Thanks, Scott. I've been running RELENG_6 (synching periodically) on my
amd64 iNET2340 from FreeBSD Systems for some time now with no problems.
(Though I have given up trying to get JDK 1.5 to build -- what a pain.)

Any chance for an update to the 6.1 release schedule?
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.1R/schedule.html

Also, is the 6.1 Open Issues page accurate? There are several issues
listed there which your email did not cover.
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.1R/todo.html

Thanks again,
Matt
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Re: sshd on 5.4-STABLE broken!?

2005-05-19 Thread freebsd-stable
> Is this of any help? I can produce the complete debugging information
> if that is of interest. 
> Pressing return three times instead of ctrl-c
> if password is requested, produces an additional
> debug3: PAM: sshpam_thread_cleanup entering
> and exits sshd

Holger,

FWIW, I posted this question on freebsd.misc the other day, in an attempt
to tackle the same issue in a different way - maybe someone here can help
along these lines?

I'd like to know the correct way to incorporate skey support into
my sshd binary on R5.3. From /usr/src/crypto/openssh/INSTALL, I
can see that the argument I need is --with-skey=PATH and I know
that the makefiles are under /usr/src/secure, but I'm guessing
that I should be able to add an entry to a top-level Makefile or
Makefile.local, maybe even to /etc/make.conf before compiling and
installing?

My theory is that perhaps without PAM it will be ok?

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Re: Incorrect super block--help!

2005-08-29 Thread freebsd-stable
> Hey, newb BSDer here with a question
> 
> I've got a brand new 5.4 install.  I'm trying to mount the CDROM.  As root, 
> I type:
> 
> mount /dev/acd0 /cdrom
> 
> and I get "incorrect super block" error message after a bit of CD activity, 
> and no mount.  I've tried a CD-RW I burned (the FreeBSD install disk I 
> installed from) and an old copy of SimCity 2000, neither worked, same error 
> message.
> 
> I'm stuck.  Any ideas?

The drive could have just started to fail. Sounds unlikely, but it's the
kind of error you might see. Does it work with another OS, or can you
substitute another drive and try that way?

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Re: Incorrect super block--help!

2005-08-29 Thread freebsd-stable
> You're trying to mount it as a rw disc and as a UFS file system
> 
> mount -r -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom
> 
> Mark Space wrote:
> > Hey, newb BSDer here with a question
> > 
> > I've got a brand new 5.4 install.  I'm trying to mount the CDROM.  As 
> > root, I type:
> > 
> > mount /dev/acd0 /cdrom
> > 

Of course, this is dead right and ignore my previous response. You'll find
that the cdrom drive is almost certainly in /etc/fstab as the other
responder mentioned - to mount it with the default fstab options (which
should work just fine):

mount /cdrom

The way you tried will indeed attempt to mount the device by default as a
rw UFS file system. Sorry for the wrong steer.

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Re: 6.0 RC1 usbd.conf (and installation comments)

2005-10-30 Thread freebsd-stable

> Just a few words on that point ... after some use of mergemaster, it
> seems to me that a big part of /etc have to be update blindly for most
> users (things in rc.d, and some other places where there's files that
> haven't to changed or that are system script that most users won't
> modify.)
> 
> I hadn't time to add a possibility for mergemaster to perform blind
> updates of such files[1], but it seems not so complicated to do so.
> 
> Does anyone else thinks that's an interesting idea ?
> 
> [1] : providing a list of directories and/or files to mergemaster for
> which blind updates could be perform, for example ...

Interesting, but for mine it sounds like more complexity than needed. I'd
be happy with a simple option to automatically replace any files with newer
CVS ID, and just make sure I took a backup of /etc before beginning.

cheers,
joel

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Re: sysinstall options

2003-01-22 Thread freebsd-stable
Frank Tegtmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

| I thought that the -RELEASE system is made from the -STABLE cvs
| branch so that this is in effect the same. Is this wrong?

No and yes. RELEASE is taken from STABLE, but that doesn't mean that
STABLE is RELEASE. When a new release is being made, it is always
tested rigorously. STABLE is a branch undergoing constant development,
meaning that there's no guarantee of its stability. It might contain
development code that could be unstable. Not really bad, but not rock
solid.

Tracking RELEASE is a lot more stable. If you have, say, RELENG_4_7 in
your supfile, you get security fixes for 4.7-RELEASE. This doesn't
happen very often unless many security holes are found. This is the
way to go if you are dependent on stability.

If you track RELENG_4 (= STABLE) you get more new features, but
sometimes at the cost of stability.

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Re: ATA failure with 4.6.2 & 250GB drive?

2003-10-14 Thread freebsd-stable
Hi Scott,

> OK, swapped out the cable (from an 80- to 40-wire one, as it happened,
> although that should make no difference on a UDMA33 controller).  Same
> errors appeared again while the backups were running.

FWIW, I have had _major_ problems (ie drive failure) when trying to use
an 80 wire cable on a UDMA33 board with  an ATA66 drive - I would recommend
never using 80 wire cables on controllers that don't support UDMA66 or
better. The reverse, using 80 wire cables on UDMA66 (or better) controllers
with ATA33 drives is ok, however, and I've done that successfully.

Once bitten, twice shy :)

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Re: Problems with 4.10 and mysql

2004-06-08 Thread freebsd-stable

> Could I ask how you are running MySQL in your jail? I have installed MySQL
> in a jail environment on 4.10, but it won't start due to:
> 
>   Bind on unix socket: Permission denied

In answer to my own question, I discovered that the permissions on my
jailed /tmp were incorrect. Changing to the correct 1777 allows mysql to
run just fine.

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tripwire port broken in 5.3b7

2004-10-11 Thread freebsd-stable
Hi,

Is there any chance that tripwire will be fixed in the near future, or
should I investigate a substitute? And if so, which one? Otherwise, has
anyone tried just compiling the source unchanged?

thanks,
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X applications crashing under 5.3BETA7 and X.org

2004-10-18 Thread freebsd-stable
I have a problem with applications crashing. Xterm will launch and run ok,
but any attempt to mouse select text will cause an immediate crash with
this output on the console:

xterm:  warning, error event received:
X Error of failed request:  BadAtom (invalid Atom parameter)
  Major opcode of failed request:  18 (X_ChangeProperty)
  Atom id in failed request:  0x17f
  Serial number of failed request:  131
  Current serial number in output stream:  133

If I attempt to run a gui app like wish, it won't launch and produces this
error:

  %wish8.4
X Error of failed request:  BadAtom (invalid Atom parameter)
  Major opcode of failed request:  18 (X_ChangeProperty)
  Atom id in failed request:  0x1a5
  Serial number of failed request:  12
  Current serial number in output stream:  15

I'm running 5.3 on the server and desktop, with X forwarded over an ssh
tunnel. I don't experience this issue when performing the same operation
but with a Microsoft Windows/XWin32 desktop. Is this an issue with the
X.org Xserver on the 5.3 workstation? Let me know what other detail I can
provide if needed.

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Re: X applications crashing under 5.3BETA7 and X.org

2004-10-18 Thread freebsd-stable
> On Tue, 2004-10-19 at 10:13 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I have a problem with applications crashing. Xterm will launch and run ok,
> > but any attempt to mouse select text will cause an immediate crash with
> > this output on the console:
> > 
> > xterm:  warning, error event received:
> > X Error of failed request:  BadAtom (invalid Atom parameter)
> >   Major opcode of failed request:  18 (X_ChangeProperty)
> >   Atom id in failed request:  0x17f
> >   Serial number of failed request:  131
> >   Current serial number in output stream:  133
> > 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> this isn't a Xorg issue it's just a X11 forwarding issue.
> Newer OpenSSH versions don't use trusted X11 forwarding by default which
> results in the above error if you try to cut & paste.
> Just use trusted X11 forwarding and all should be fine.
> 
> Either ssh -Y server-hostname or add "ForwardX11Trusted yes" to your ssh
> config file.
> 
> 
> -- 
>   Sascha
> 

Thanks, Sascha. Works perfectly now. I'd never even heard of trusted X11
forwarding before...

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Re: Where to get 5.3 Stable

2004-10-24 Thread freebsd-stable
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > Everyone keep on saying they have problem running 5.3 stable. But is
> > 5.3 stable really out? I can't find it anywhere.
> 
> 5.3-RELEASE isn't out yet, but you can get 5.3-STABLE by cvsup'ing
> the RELENG_5 tag.
> 

As RELENG_5_3 has been branched, I have been tracking this release - I
presume this is the same as RELENG_5 until 5.3 RELEASE is frozen
(already?), but will then only change for security patches. (Someone please
correct me if this is an incorrect assumption)

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php5 port compile problem

2004-10-28 Thread freebsd-stable
Hi,

After a make update in /usr/src today (about an hour ago):

ext/standard/dns.lo(.text+0x1c6c): In function `.L163':
: undefined reference to `res_ninit'
ext/standard/dns.lo(.text+0x1cd8): In function `.L163':
: undefined reference to `res_nmkquery'
ext/standard/dns.lo(.text+0x1d0a): In function `.L163':
: undefined reference to `res_nsend'
ext/standard/dns.lo(.text+0x1e9a): In function `.L163':
: undefined reference to `res_nclose'
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/lang/php5/work/php-5.0.2.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/lang/php5.
** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portinstall88483.0 make 
DEPENDS_TARGET=package
** Fix the problem and try again.
** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed)
! lang/php5 (linker error)
--->  Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed

Hope this is the right place to bring this up?

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Re: php5 port compile problem

2004-10-31 Thread freebsd-stable
Hi Xander,

Thanks for the info, but do you mean the bind9 port? I'm not excited about
installing a port for bind when it is in the base distro already, but...

joel
> I know this problem! I encountered it a few months ago when php5 was this 
> beta.
> 
> What I found was that you need bind9 for php5, so install bind9 and your 
> problem is solved.
> 
> Greets,
> 
> Xander
> - Original Message - 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday 29 October 2004 8:03
> Subject: php5 port compile problem
> 
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > After a make update in /usr/src today (about an hour ago):
> >
> > ext/standard/dns.lo(.text+0x1c6c): In function `.L163':
> > : undefined reference to `res_ninit'
> > ext/standard/dns.lo(.text+0x1cd8): In function `.L163':
> > : undefined reference to `res_nmkquery'
> > ext/standard/dns.lo(.text+0x1d0a): In function `.L163':
> > : undefined reference to `res_nsend'
> > ext/standard/dns.lo(.text+0x1e9a): In function `.L163':
> > : undefined reference to `res_nclose'
> > *** Error code 1
> >
> > Stop in /usr/ports/lang/php5/work/php-5.0.2.
> > *** Error code 1
> >
> > Stop in /usr/ports/lang/php5.
> > ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa 
> > /tmp/portinstall88483.0 make DEPENDS_TARGET=package
> > ** Fix the problem and try again.
> > ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed)
> >! lang/php5 (linker error)
> > --->  Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed
> >
> > Hope this is the right place to bring this up?
> >
> > joel
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Re: [REVISED] FreeBSD 11.4-RC1 Now Available

2020-05-24 Thread ltning-freebsd-stable
On 5/22/20 11:52 PM, Glen Barber wrote:
>  list of changes since 11.3-RELEASE is available in the releng/11.4
> release notes:
> 
> https://www.freebsd.org/releases/11.4R/relnotes.html
> 
> Please note, the release notes page is not yet complete, and will be
> updated on an ongoing basis as the 11.4-RELEASE cycle progresses.

How about "the release notes page is not yet available"? That URL gives a 404 :)

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Regression in SCSI tape detection at boot in 7.2-RELEASE?

2009-05-05 Thread terry+freebsd-stable
  Sometime between the 7.2-PRERELEASE cycle started and 7.2-RELEASE, 
boot-time probing of tape drives (at least a Quantum DLT8000 and a
Quantum SDLT600) started generating error messages, such as these:

ahc1:  port 0xd800-0xd8ff mem 
0xfe1fe000-0xfe1fefff irq 25 at device 1.1 on pci2
ahc1: [ITHREAD]
aic7899: Ultra160 Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 32/253 SCBs
...
Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
(probe21:ahc1:0:6:0): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0 
(probe21:ahc1:0:6:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error
(probe21:ahc1:0:6:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition
(probe21:ahc1:0:6:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,2
(probe21:ahc1:0:6:0): SCSI bus reset occurred
(probe21:ahc1:0:6:0): Retrying Command (per Sense Data)
(probe21:ahc1:0:6:0): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0 
(probe21:ahc1:0:6:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error
(probe21:ahc1:0:6:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition
(probe21:ahc1:0:6:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:28,0
(probe21:ahc1:0:6:0): Not ready to ready change, medium may have changed
(probe21:ahc1:0:6:0): Retrying Command (per Sense Data)
sa0 at ahc1 bus 0 target 6 lun 0
sa0:  Removable Sequential Access SCSI-4 device 
sa0: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz DT, offset 120, 16bit)

  This is happening for both stand-alone and loader drives, regardless of
whether there is a tape in the drive at boot time.

  There is no problem with using the drive - no further messages are log-
ged and the drive operates properly.

  Does anyone have any idea what is causing this, and where I should look
to try to track it down?

Terry Kennedy http://www.tmk.com
te...@tmk.com New York, NY USA
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FreeBSD 6 and MySQL with DBs on a NAS

2006-06-27 Thread freebsd-stable-archive
Hi, I was wondering if anyone else had encountered this issue and/or come 
up with what needs to be done to resolve it:


I currently have MySQL 5.0.22 built from ports on a FreeBSD 6.1 machine 
with the DB data residing on a NetApp share connected via NFS.  A
strange thing happens often after a few hours or a couple of days, some 
tables that are very active start to crash for no apparent reason

as far as I can tell.

Example output from check table tablename:
++---+--+---+
| Table  | Op| Msg_type | Msg_text |
++---+--+---+
| dbname.tablename | check | warning  | Table is marked as crashed 
|
| dbname.tablename | check | error| Found key at page 18259968 that 
points to record outside datafile |

| dbname.tablename | check | error| Corrupt |
++---+--+---+

Upon moving the DB data to a local drive, the system operates flawlessly 
and has done so for many weeks, but I really need to keep these data on 
the networked share.


The problem didn't happen when I was using FreeBSD 4.11, it only started 
after upgrading to FreeBSD 6.0 or 6.1.


A poster on a MySQL mailing list suggested perhaps it could be a file 
locking issue at the OS level and so I post my inquiry here.


I've seen this happen on FreeBSD 6.0 and 6.1 with MySQL 4.1.x and MySQL 
5.0.x built from ports.  Has anyone else seen this and if so has a

resolution been found?

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Re: FreeBSD 6 and MySQL with DBs on a NAS

2006-06-29 Thread freebsd-stable-archive

I wasn't able to find anyone seeing a similar problem as what I describe.

I'm using FreeBSD 6.1, MySQL 5.0.21 built from ports and a NetApp share 
provided over NFS.


Has anyone else ever seen the issue as described in the e-mail below?

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"Alexey Karagodov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

there was some problems with NFS on FreeBSD 6 ...
try to google problem related to NFS or search this mailing list


2006/6/27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] >:

Hi, I was wondering if anyone else had encountered this issue and/or come
up with what needs to be done to resolve it:

I currently have MySQL 5.0.22 built from ports on a FreeBSD 6.1 machine
with the DB data residing on a NetApp share connected via NFS.  A
strange thing happens often after a few hours or a couple of days, some
tables that are very active start to crash for no apparent reason
as far as I can tell.

Example output from check table tablename:
++---+--+---+
| Table  | Op| Msg_type | Msg_text |
++---+--+---+
| dbname.tablename | check | warning  | Table is marked as crashed
|
| dbname.tablename | check | error| Found key at page 18259968 that
points to record outside datafile |
| dbname.tablename | check | error| Corrupt |
++---+--+---+

Upon moving the DB data to a local drive, the system operates flawlessly
and has done so for many weeks, but I really need to keep these data on
the networked share.

The problem didn't happen when I was using FreeBSD 4.11, it only started
after upgrading to FreeBSD 6.0 or 6.1.

A poster on a MySQL mailing list suggested perhaps it could be a file
locking issue at the OS level and so I post my inquiry here.

I've seen this happen on FreeBSD 6.0 and 6.1 with MySQL 4.1.x and MySQL
5.0.x built from ports.  Has anyone else seen this and if so has a
resolution been found?

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Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 4 unable to boot 13.0-RC1

2021-03-20 Thread Fred via freebsd-stable

On 3/19/21 7:59 PM, Mathias Picker wrote:


Fred Hall via freebsd-stable  writes:

I have a ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 4 (20FCS0NB00) which has happily run 
FreeBSD 11 and 12, but which can't boot 13.0-RC1 from memstick or via 
freebsd-update. In both cases the boot process locks up on the line 
"hwpstate_intel0:  on cpu0"
If running freebsd-update, a work around is to add 
hint.hwpstate_intel.0.disabled="1" in loader.conf. See the note under 
the Eighth Generation (2020) in 
https://wiki.freebsd.org/Laptops/Thinkpad_X1_Carbon
I was quite surprised to find the lack of support for hwpstate_intel 
in 13 when it apparently worked under 11 and 12. Does anyone know the 
status of hwpstate_intel on ThinkPads?


I’m running 13 -STABLE from 10 days ago on a Thinkpad Yoga 3rd gen, and 
hwpstate_intel works fine, never had a problem.


mathiasp:~% sysctl dev.hwpstate_intel dev.hwpstate_intel.7.epp: 15
dev.hwpstate_intel.7.%parent: cpu7
dev.hwpstate_intel.7.%pnpinfo: dev.hwpstate_intel.7.%location: 
dev.hwpstate_intel.7.%driver: hwpstate_intel

dev.hwpstate_intel.7.%desc: Intel Speed Shift
dev.hwpstate_intel.6.epp: 15
dev.hwpstate_intel.6.%parent: cpu6
dev.hwpstate_intel.6.%pnpinfo: dev.hwpstate_intel.6.%location: 
dev.hwpstate_intel.6.%driver: hwpstate_intel

dev.hwpstate_intel.6.%desc: Intel Speed Shift
[snip]

The gen3 is using
sudo dmesg|grep -i cpu
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8550U CPU @ 1.80GHz (1992.08-MHz K8-class CPU)
[snip, snip]

mathiasp:~% uname -a
FreeBSD Danton 13.0-STABLE FreeBSD 13.0-STABLE #2 
stable/13-n244845-f21c0366f53: Wed Mar 10 20:53:26 CET 2021 
root@Danton:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/GENERIC  amd64



Cheers,

Mathias


Thanks for the feed back. Good to know most people won't encounter the 
problem. Perhaps it is a bios issue specific to the model. I did update 
to the latest bios version but that made no difference.


I have chosen to rollback to 12.2 as it works perfectly for me.




Cheers, Fred
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Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 4 unable to boot 13.0-RC1

2021-03-20 Thread Fred via freebsd-stable

On 3/20/21 10:26 AM, Kevin Oberman wrote:

On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 8:35 AM Fred via freebsd-stable <
freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> wrote:


On 3/19/21 7:59 PM, Mathias Picker wrote:


Fred Hall via freebsd-stable  writes:


I have a ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 4 (20FCS0NB00) which has happily run
FreeBSD 11 and 12, but which can't boot 13.0-RC1 from memstick or via
freebsd-update. In both cases the boot process locks up on the line
"hwpstate_intel0:  on cpu0"
If running freebsd-update, a work around is to add
hint.hwpstate_intel.0.disabled="1" in loader.conf. See the note under
the Eighth Generation (2020) in
https://wiki.freebsd.org/Laptops/Thinkpad_X1_Carbon
I was quite surprised to find the lack of support for hwpstate_intel
in 13 when it apparently worked under 11 and 12. Does anyone know the
status of hwpstate_intel on ThinkPads?


I’m running 13 -STABLE from 10 days ago on a Thinkpad Yoga 3rd gen, and
hwpstate_intel works fine, never had a problem.

mathiasp:~% sysctl dev.hwpstate_intel dev.hwpstate_intel.7.epp: 15
dev.hwpstate_intel.7.%parent: cpu7
dev.hwpstate_intel.7.%pnpinfo: dev.hwpstate_intel.7.%location:
dev.hwpstate_intel.7.%driver: hwpstate_intel
dev.hwpstate_intel.7.%desc: Intel Speed Shift
dev.hwpstate_intel.6.epp: 15
dev.hwpstate_intel.6.%parent: cpu6
dev.hwpstate_intel.6.%pnpinfo: dev.hwpstate_intel.6.%location:
dev.hwpstate_intel.6.%driver: hwpstate_intel
dev.hwpstate_intel.6.%desc: Intel Speed Shift
[snip]

The gen3 is using
sudo dmesg|grep -i c
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8550U CPU @ 1.80GHz (1992.08-MHz K8-class CPU)
[snip, snip]

mathiasp:~% uname -a
FreeBSD Danton 13.0-STABLE FreeBSD 13.0-STABLE #2
stable/13-n244845-f21c0366f53: Wed Mar 10 20:53:26 CET 2021
root@Danton:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/GENERIC  amd64


Cheers,

Mathias


Thanks for the feed back. Good to know most people won't encounter the
problem. Perhaps it is a bios issue specific to the model. I did update
to the latest bios version but that made no difference.

I have chosen to rollback to 12.2 as it works perfectly for me.




Cheers, Fred



There are two long tickets about this. Take a look at tickets 248659
<https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=248659> and 253288
<https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=253288>. This problem
appeared in 13-current in Jan 2020 and I first saw it on my new Lenovo L15
that summer. It appears specific to Lenovo laptops. It appears that similar
issues have been seen with Linux.


Thank for the links to the bug reports, it would appear to be the same 
issue. I tested my wife's X1 Carbon Gen 3 and it worked fine. Perhaps a 
bios bug with the processor in my 4th gen.


CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6600U CPU @ 2.60GHz (2808.11-MHz K8-class CPU)

In the 24 hours I tested 13.0, I also had some X windows failures while 
waking up from suspend which never happens with 12.2. Oh well, no worries.



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Re: possibly silly question regarding freebsd-update

2021-03-30 Thread Ruben via freebsd-stable

Hi,

Did you mean 12.1-p5 or 12.2-p5 ? I'm asking because you refer to both 
12.1-p5 and 12.2-p5 (typo?).


If you meant 12.2-p5: Perhaps the FreeBSD security team did not bump the 
version, but "only" backported the patches to version 1.1.1h ?


Regards,

Ruben


On 3/30/21 3:35 PM, tech-lists wrote:

Hi,

Recently there was
https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-security/2021-March/010380.html
about openssl. Upgraded to 12.2-p5 with freebsd-update and rebooted.

What I'm unsure about is the openssl version.
Up-to-date 12.1-p5 instances report OpenSSL 1.1.1h-freebsd  22 Sep 2020

Up-to-date stable/13-n245043-7590d7800c4 reports OpenSSL 1.1.1k-freebsd
25 Mar 2021

shouldn't the 12.2-p5 be reporting openssl 1.1.1k-freebsd as well?

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FreeBSD 13.0 terrible performance in KVM

2021-04-24 Thread dashdruid via freebsd-stable
Hello List,

I hope some other folks out there running FreeBSD on KVM as well. I set up a 
base VM while doing so I noticed that the disk operations are very slow. Many 
times I edit a file in vim or try to run a command there is a huge lag.

I use UFS as the root filesystem. To have something to compare it with I have 
tested it against an OpenBSD 6.6 VM on the same host, same hardware. both have 
1 vCPU and 1GB of ram, 20GB virtual disk (they are exactly on the same physical 
disk no raid or anything to have a fair comparison).

Here is an example simple file search time for a non-existent file:

FreeBSD 13

time find / -name cacert.pem

real 0m30.656s
user 0m0.516s
sys 0m3.938s

Second run even worse

real 2m38.618s
user 0m0.711s
sys 0m6.882s

While on the OpenBSD VM I get

time find / -name cacert.pem

real 0m2.258s
user 0m0.290s
sys 0m1.970s

The amount of data is about the same on both systems but I would not consider 
this a "slight" performance degradation. If the base system is so slow then 
imagine putting Apache and other servers on top of it. Did anyone run into this?

Unless there is a definitive solution I will opt out to using other BSD 
variants.
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Re: FreeBSD 13.0 terrible performance in KVM

2021-04-25 Thread dashdruid via freebsd-stable
Hello,

I have reinstalled it with GPT/ZFS and your right it's much better. Same search 
taking 3-6 seconds so I have deleted now all my old UFS based FreeBSD images.

I wonder how I didn't notice this earlier because I had 12.0, 12.2 base images 
and now that I retested them they had the exact same issues. I guess after the 
stuff is loaded into memory it doesn't matter anymore. This must be something 
related to the virtual disk access.

I was not thinking on using ZFS due to the higher memory recommendations, some 
of these VMs I using them for tiny tasks like DNS server and I don't give them 
more than 256, 512MB of ram. Also I don't take advantage of snapshotting either 
since it's a VM and it's either snapshotted or I just have base images and copy 
them when creating new VMs.

Well UFS is on it's way out anyway.

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Saturday, April 24, 2021 3:03 PM, Jeff Love j...@burgh.net wrote:

> I'm running 12.2 and 13.0 on KVM using virtio and zfs. I am not having
> disk I/O issues.
> Jeff Love
> On 4/24/21 5:25 AM, dashdruid via freebsd-stable wrote:
>
>> Hello List,
>> I hope some other folks out there running FreeBSD on KVM as well. I set up a 
>> base VM while doing so I noticed that the disk operations are very slow. 
>> Many times I edit a file in vim or try to run a command there is a huge lag.
>> I use UFS as the root filesystem. To have something to compare it with I 
>> have tested it against an OpenBSD 6.6 VM on the same host, same hardware. 
>> both have 1 vCPU and 1GB of ram, 20GB virtual disk (they are exactly on the 
>> same physical disk no raid or anything to have a fair comparison).
>> Here is an example simple file search time for a non-existent file:
>> FreeBSD 13
>> time find / -name cacert.pem
>> real 0m30.656s
>> user 0m0.516s
>> sys 0m3.938s
>> Second run even worse
>> real 2m38.618s
>> user 0m0.711s
>> sys 0m6.882s
>> While on the OpenBSD VM I get
>> time find / -name cacert.pem
>> real 0m2.258s
>> user 0m0.290s
>> sys 0m1.970s
>> The amount of data is about the same on both systems but I would not 
>> consider this a "slight" performance degradation. If the base system is so 
>> slow then imagine putting Apache and other servers on top of it. Did anyone 
>> run into this?
>> Unless there is a definitive solution I will opt out to using other BSD 
>> variants.
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/usr/lib/libc.a contains .debug_info on FreeBSD 12.0-RC3

2018-12-10 Thread qroxana via freebsd-stable


Hi,

I just installed FreeBSD 12.0-RC3 amd64 and noticed /usr/lib/libc.a
is much larger than the one on 11.2-RELEASE.

# ar x /usr/lib/libc.a
# file jemalloc_ctl.o
jemalloc_ctl.o: ELF 64-bit LSB relocatable, x86-64, version 1 (FreeBSD), with 
debug_info, not stripped
# ls -lh jemalloc_ctl.o
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   834K Dec 10 14:44 jemalloc_ctl.o

Is this expected?

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Nvidia driver cannot compile on FreeBSD 12.0

2019-03-23 Thread Unga via freebsd-stable
Hi all
I tried to install NVIDIA-FreeBSD-x86_64-418.56 display driver but I get 
following compilation error:
# make install===> src (install)===> src/nvidia (install)cc  -O2 -pipe 
-DNV_VERSION_STRING=\"418.56\" -D__KERNEL__ -DNVRM -Wno-unused-function 
-Wuninitialized -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -mno-red-zone -mcmodel=kernel -UDEBUG 
-U_DEBUG -DNDEBUG -Werror=undef  -Werror -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc  -I. 
-I../common/inc -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ck/include 
-fno-common  -fno-omit-frame-pointer -mno-omit-leaf-frame-pointer    
-mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone -mno-mmx -mno-sse -msoft-float  
-fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestanding -fwrapv -fstack-protector -Wall 
-Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes 
-Wpointer-arith -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign 
-D__printf__=__freebsd_kprintf__ -Wmissing-include-dirs 
-fdiagnostics-show-option -Wno-unknown-pragmas -Wno-error-tautological-compare 
-Wno-error-empty-body -Wno-error-parentheses-equality 
-Wno-error-unused-function -Wno-error-pointer-sign 
-Wno-error-shift-negative-value -Wno-address-of-packed-member  -mno-aes 
-mno-avx  -std=iso9899:1999 -c nvidia_acpi.c -o nvidia_acpi.oIn file included 
from nvidia_acpi.c:12:./os-interface.h:27:10: fatal error: 'stdarg.h' file not 
found#include          ^~1 error generated.

My OS:# uname -aFreeBSD unga 12.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE r341666 GENERIC  
amd64
I used to have a previous version of Nvidia driver running well on FreeBSD 11.2 
on the same machine.
Any idea?
Best regardsUnga
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CAM status: Command timeout

2017-09-20 Thread Andrei via freebsd-stable
Hello,
After updating to 11.1 my home server can't boot with errors like
(ada0:ata2:0:0:0): WRITE_DMA48. ACB: 35 00 50 29 10 40 6c 00 0c 00
(ada0:ata2:0:0:0): CAM status: Command timeout
(ada0:ata2:0:0:0): Retrying command
for all 6 sata hdd(stripe from 2 raidz)
ACB different from boot to boot
Sometimes it even can boot, but in few minutes will hang with same errors.

Hardware: Supermicro X8DTN+-F / 6xWD1502FYPS-02W3B0 /2xE5649
HDDs connected to sata ports on baseboard.
If I add
hint.ata.2.mode=PIO4
hint.ata.3.mode=PIO4
hint.ata.4.mode=PIO4
hint.ata.5.mode=PIO4
to device.hints I'm able to boot but performance of IO becomes really 
disappointing.
Also, if I add something like "find / -name something" to zfs rc script, than 
boots fine.

If I roll back system to 11.0 all works fine again.
Any advise on debuging of this issue?
Also raised bug report some time ago for this issue
https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=221704
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Re: CAM status: Command timeout

2017-09-24 Thread Andrei via freebsd-stable
22 сентября 2017 г., 02:35, "Keith Hellman"  
написал:

> On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 11:06:11PM +0000, freebsd-stable List wrote:
> 
>> Sometimes it even can boot, but in few minutes will hang with same errors.
>> 
>> Hardware: Supermicro X8DTN+-F / 6xWD1502FYPS-02W3B0 /2xE5649
>> HDDs connected to sata ports on baseboard.
>> If I add
>> hint.ata.2.mode=PIO4
>> hint.ata.3.mode=PIO4
>> hint.ata.4.mode=PIO4
>> hint.ata.5.mode=PIO4
>> to device.hints I'm able to boot but performance of IO becomes really 
>> disappointing.
>> Also, if I add something like "find / -name something" to zfs rc script, 
>> than boots fine.
> 
> Boots fine but hangs in a few minutes? Or all is good to go? Here is a
> thught: it could be the find / ... command is causing enough delay to
> let some hardware "settle down" and behave more reasonably. Can you
> replace the find cmd with an equivalent sleep(1) command of like
> duration and get the same results?
> 
>> If I roll back system to 11.0 all works fine again.
> 
> Seemingly minor deltas in the system could have had the needed delay
> as an implicit part of the system...
> 
> Just my 2c
Nope, it can't boot fine at all, or init will get segfault or ttys or just 
system becomes unresponsive and I can't even login, so this heppens during 
start of services. I've also tried to disable all "non-base" services, but 
without success. 
As for trying just sleep - it doesn't helps. Seems that find helps because of 
caching by system triggered by find.



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Re: kern.sched.quantum: Creepy, sadistic scheduler

2018-04-17 Thread EBFE via freebsd-stable
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 09:05:48 -0700
Freddie Cash  wrote:

> # Tune for desktop usage
> kern.sched.preempt_thresh=224
> 
> ​Works quite nicely on a 4-core AMD Phenom-II X4 960T Processor
> (3010.09-MHz K8-class CPU) running KDE4 using an Nvidia 210 GPU.

For interactive tasks, there is a "special" tunable:
% sysctl kern.sched.interact
kern.sched.interact: 10 # default is 30
% sysctl -d kern.sched.interact
kern.sched.interact: Interactivity score threshold

reducing the value from 30 to 10-15 keeps your gui/system responsive,
even under high load.
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Re: removable storage usability, devd, hald and X11-desktop in general

2018-05-20 Thread EBFE via freebsd-stable
On Sat, 19 May 2018 20:35:59 +0200
Harry Schmalzbauer  wrote:

Hi,

> Biggest question: How are useres expected to handle removable media?
> 
> I'm a happy user of autofs(5) in several environments (mostly for NFS 
> mounts), but I'm not aware of any helper tool which enables _users_
> to unmount before pulling the UFD.
> I've heard of PC-BSD and Lumina (see later why I haven't really tried 
> out the modern "light" desktops) and I think I remember having read
> they utilize devd(8).  But again, how to unmount?

There is a nice little daemon: sysutils/dsbmd 
(see https://freeshell.de/~mk/projects/dsbmd.html
and /usr/local/etc/dsbmd.conf.sample)

with a simple GUI sysutils/dsbmc and cli (sysutils/dsbmc-cli) clients.
It supports automounting using devd and/or polling and automatic
or manual unmounting. 
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Re: git, $FreeBSD$ and mergemaster

2020-12-23 Thread Charles Sprickman via freebsd-stable


> On Dec 23, 2020, at 9:04 PM, Kyle Evans  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 8:02 PM Jonathan Chen  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> With the transition to git, I'm now getting a lot of prompts for
>> differences against an empty $FreeBSD$, eg:
>> 
>>  *** Displaying differences between installed version and ./.cshrc:
>> 
>> --- /.cshrc 2020-09-03 19:14:19.258107000 +1200
>> +++ ./.cshrc    2020-12-24 14:52:16.751245000 +1300
>> @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
>> -# $FreeBSD: stable/12/bin/csh/dot.cshrc 363525 2020-07-25 11:57:39Z pstef $
>> +# $FreeBSD$
>> #
>> # .cshrc - csh resource script, read at beginning of execution by each shell
>> #
>> 
>> While I can simply run a "mergemaster -F" to get past this particular
>> update, how will mergemaster operate in the future when there are
>> changes in /etc if it can't inspect the $FreeBSD$ tag anymore?
>> 
> 
> mergemaster only uses it as an optimization, if they're unexpanded
> throughout then it falls back to diff(1) -- i.e. it's slower without.

Is this a permanent change with git? I’d miss being able to see a path,
date and some indication of revision in config files and anything else
that’s text-based.

Charles

> Thanks,
> 
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MII media status race condition causing fictitious link down

2020-12-26 Thread Ali Abdallah via freebsd-stable
Hello,

As I've sent a couple of patches to add support for Thinkpad USB-C gen2
to if_ure(4), I came across a very strange link random state change,
causing dhclient to think the link went effectively down, which is not
the case.

First I thought that if_ure(4) doesn't play well with the new chip of the
dock, but after lot of debugging, it turns out to be a nasty race
condition in mii bus code [1].

I'm sending this mail to raise awareness about this issue. Apparently it
exists since long time (I even remember having had this issue in the
past on my older Thinkpad).

[1] https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=252165

Regards,

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Re: Consistency of pkg db on UFS

2021-01-04 Thread Ali Abdallah via freebsd-stable
On 12.12.2020 09:44, techyNotes wrote:
> Hi Ali

Hi

> 
> I had a similar problem with my HP Elitebook couple of days ago with UFS 
> option. I had been experimenting with various modes and setup options 
> including the file system ZFS and UFS. I would have installed and reinstalled 
> Freebsd 12.2 more than 20 times! 
> 
> I guess the issue lies in the Installation process. Just before the final 
> step of rebooting it takes sometime (more than when installing with ZFS 
> option) to complete the installation closure tasks. This was not completed or 
> you did not wait until the point the message popped up to reboot the system!
> 
> To verify if this is the case, check your loader.conf and/or rc.conf it would 
> be empty. The options you selected during the install process would not be 
> recorded in these files.
> 
> SOLUTION: I just reinstalled again with the option of UFS and waited on the 
> last before step patiently and then finally rebooted upon the alter message 
> of REBOOT option from the installer.

I'm no speaking about the installer, but an already installed system.

I don't believe there is a solution to the described issue, the blocks
of a newly installed package can make it to the disk and to the fs
metadata, but the information about it written by the package manager to
its database/plain file might not make it to the disk in case of power
failure/panic, so you would end up with an installed package that the
package manager itself doesn't know about! The issue can happen on any
filesystem, not only on UFS.

Regards,
Ali
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Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] FreeBSD Errata Notice FreeBSD-EN-21:02.extattr

2021-01-29 Thread Gordon Tetlow via freebsd-stable
On Jan 29, 2021, at 4:09 AM, Martin Simmons  wrote:
> 
>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 02:34:06 + (UTC), FreeBSD Errata Notices said:
>> 
>> 2) To update your system via a source code patch:
>> 
>> The following patches have been verified to apply to the applicable
>> FreeBSD release branches.
>> 
>> a) Download the relevant patch from the location below, and verify the
>> detached PGP signature using your PGP utility.
>> 
>> [FreeBSD 11.4]
>> # fetch 
>> https://www.google.com/url?q=https://security.FreeBSD.org/patches/EN-12:02/extattr.patch&source=gmail-imap&ust=161255012400&usg=AOvVaw3tedBjh5jzyUuP3xiGTtZQ
>> # fetch 
>> https://www.google.com/url?q=https://security.FreeBSD.org/patches/EN-12:02/extattr.patch.asc&source=gmail-imap&ust=161255012400&usg=AOvVaw3t5fFBc0ZeO4PkEwhRNHS9
>> # gpg --verify extattr.patch.asc
> 
> There is a typo in the URLs (12 instead of 21).

Thanks for the report. I've published an updated URI. Apologies!

Gordon
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Re: Setting for displaying utf8 characters on all vt consoles results in panic on 14-CURRENT and 13.0-ALPHA3

2021-02-02 Thread Toomas Soome via freebsd-stable


> On 1. Feb 2021, at 05:35, Yasuhiro Kimura  wrote:
> 
> From: Yasuhiro Kimura mailto:y...@utahime.org>>
> Subject: Setting for displaying utf8 characters on all vt consoles results in 
> panic on 14-CURRENT and 13.0-ALPHA3
> Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2021 11:41:35 +0900 (JST)
> 
>> To display utf8 characters on all vt console I did following settings.
>> 
>> 1. Download GNU Unifont BDF file
>>   
>> (http://unifoundry.com/pub/unifont/unifont-13.0.05/font-builds/unifont-13.0.05.bdf.gz)
>> 2. gunzip unifont-13.0.05.bdf.gz
>> 3. vtfontcvt unifont-13.0.05.bdf unifont.fnt
>> 4. cp unifont.fnt /usr/share/vt/fonts
>> 5. Add 'allscreens_flags="-f 8x16 unifont.fnt"' to /etc/rc.conf
>> 6. Add 'hw.vga.textmode=0' to /boot/loader.conf.local
>> 7. shutdown -r now
>> 
>> On 12.2-RELEASE and 11.4-RELEASE it works as is expected. But on
>> 14-CURRENT(man) and 13.0-ALPHA3(stable/13) it result in kernel panic.
>> 
>> Screen shot of 14-CURRENT.
>> https://www.utahime.org/FreeBSD/panic.20210201.14-CURRENT.png
>> 
>> 14-CURRENT(main):
>> yasu@rolling-vm-freebsd1[1006]% uname -a
>> FreeBSD rolling-vm-freebsd1.home.utahime.org 14.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 
>> 14.0-CURRENT #0 main-n244517-f17fc5439f5: Mon Feb  1 10:55:51 JST 2021 
>> ro...@rolling-vm-freebsd1.home.utahime.org:/usr0/freebsd/src/obj/usr0/freebsd/src/git/amd64.amd64/sys/GENERIC
>>   amd64
>> 
>> 13.0-ALPHA3(stable/13):
>> yasu@rolling-vm-freebsd5[1005]% uname -a
>> FreeBSD rolling-vm-freebsd5.home.utahime.org 13.0-ALPHA3 FreeBSD 13.0-ALPHA3 
>> #0 stable/13-c256214-g40cb0344eb2: Mon Feb  1 11:30:28 JST 2021 
>> ro...@rolling-vm-freebsd5.home.utahime.org:/usr0/freebsd/src/obj/usr0/freebsd/src/git/amd64.amd64/sys/GENERIC
>>   amd64
> 
> I submitted this problem to Bugzilla.
> 
> Bug 253147 - Setting for displaying utf8 characters on all vt consoles
> results in panic on 14-CURRENT and 13.0-ALPHA3
> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=253147 
> <https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=253147>
> 
> ---
> Yasuhiro Kimura

Should be fixed on current now.

thanks,
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Re: where to upgrade 12-stable now, svn still, or git?

2021-02-12 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
> As subject, where to get sources for 12-stable upgrade now? Is it still
> svn or is it git?

Probably your choice. But one thing that could
bias towards svn is that the svn information
spans identifying both the svn and the git
material but the git commit does not identify
the svn material. For example, via:

https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/stable/12/lib/?sortby=rev&sortdir=down&view=log

is the following . . .

QUOTE
Revision 369260 - Directory Listing 
Modified Fri Feb 12 21:02:48 2021 UTC (4 hours, 49 minutes ago) by dim
test_inf_inputs: Use atf_tc_expect_fail() instead of atf_tc_skip()

Reviewed By:lwhsu
Differential Revision: 
https://reviews.freebsd.org/D28396


(cherry picked from commit 4d2edf3af1dbd8a3e7cf1b22343a1ecfc2dd41ba)

Fix lib/msun's ctrig_test/test_inf_inputs test case with clang >= 10

This sprinkles a few strategic volatiles in an attempt to defeat clang's
optimization interfering with the expected floating-point exception
flags.

Reported by:lwhsu
PR: 244732

(cherry picked from commit ac76bc1145dd7f4476e5d982ce8f355f71015713)

Git Hash:   f2a88e744701de1b37d7463828f2147f96e39d58
Git Author: arichard...@freebsd.org
END QUOTE

So both -r369260 and git hash-ids are indicated.

By contrast, the cgit commit's display does not identify the
svn side's -r369260 :

QUOTE
diff options
context:
space:  
mode:   
author  Alex Richardson2021-01-29 09:28:40 
+
committer   Dimitry Andric2021-02-12 20:50:28 
+
commit  f2a88e744701de1b37d7463828f2147f96e39d58 (patch)
tree0db8207a810f40d7f82c2033f8377ed38ce08ba2
parent  9525ccc84e337f4261425fc8fbf9f0de18500a1b (diff)
downloadsrc-f2a88e744701de1b37d7463828f2147f96e39d58.tar.gz
src-f2a88e744701de1b37d7463828f2147f96e39d58.zip
test_inf_inputs: Use atf_tc_expect_fail() instead of atf_tc_skip()stable/12
Reviewed By:lwhsu
Differential Revision: 
https://reviews.freebsd.org/D28396


(cherry picked from commit 4d2edf3af1dbd8a3e7cf1b22343a1ecfc2dd41ba)

Fix lib/msun's ctrig_test/test_inf_inputs test case with clang >= 10

This sprinkles a few strategic volatiles in an attempt to defeat clang's
optimization interfering with the expected floating-point exception
flags.

Reported by:lwhsu
PR: 
244732


(cherry picked from commit ac76bc1145dd7f4476e5d982ce8f355f71015713)
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Matching up stable revisions with releng/12.3/ or release/12.3.0/ in
the future would be easier starting from svn material in the first
place and would provide identification for git as well.

But I've no clue if such would be important to what you might need
to do with 12.

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Re: where to upgrade 12-stable now, svn still, or git?

2021-02-12 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
tech-lists tech-lists at zyxst.net wrote on
Sat Feb 13 04:11:46 UTC 2021 :

>  Basically I'm asking "which is the source for truth now".


The official answer for 12 as I understand it: git,
where the commits are initially made before they are
converted into svn. (Thus svn is time delayed.)

But that is complicated because the official builds
for releng, release, and even snapshots, are still
based on svn (not git) for 12 and still use rDD
numbering from svn and will be for the life of 12
(and 11).

(There is no svn branch for 13 and later.)

So, tracking relationships to official builds is easier
from the svn side of things and it also provides pointers
back to git.

To me that makes answers to "which is the source for
truth now" problematical: it would be hard to avoid
mixing the criteria from what I can tell.

(But, I'm unlikely to deal with before 13 and so likely
will be able to avoid the issue myself.)

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Re: where to upgrade 12-stable now, svn still, or git?

2021-02-12 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
Dewayne Geraghty dewayne at heuristicsystems.com.au wrote on
Sat Feb 13 06:04:52 UTC 2021 :

> The main list we used was:
> 
> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-stable-12/
> 
> but that appears dead.
> . . .
> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-release/
> 
> suspect also dead.

I should have mentioned this area in my reply to tech-lists.
This part of things is more git based now, probably
meaning more use of https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ to look
at commits/check-ins is needed in order to see the modern
cross-references between svn and git. (Such is not available
from the git side.)

(Older history in svn does not have git references as
far as I know.)

> I suspect that
> 
> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/dev-commits-src-branches/2021-January/thread.html
> 
> is the stable-12 equivalent but are incremental patch releases also
> available here?


That covers stable/11 , stable/12 , and stable/13 . But no list
that I know of covers any releng/* or release/* commit activity.

For the git side of things, one has to look at the likes of
branches via cgit (or whatever) via the likes of:

https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/log/?h=releng/12.2
https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/log/?h=releng/13.0

Something like release/12.2.0 seems to be via a tag
on a commit. So https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/log/?h=releng/12.2
lists it but https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/log/?h=stable/12
does not. (There are commits to releng/12.2 after the
release/12.2.0 tag.)

Of course, for 12 there still is:

https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/release/12.2.0/
https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/releng/12.2/

as a svn side view of things that has the modern
cross references to git included.

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[pf] stable/12: block by OS broken

2021-02-17 Thread Xin Li via freebsd-stable
Hi,

It appears that some change between 939430f2377 (December 31) and
b4bf7bdeb70 (today) on stable/12 have broken pf in a way that the
following rule:

block in quick proto tcp from any os "Linux" to any port ssh

would get interpreted as:

block drop in quick proto tcp from any to any port = 22

(and block all SSH connection instead of just the ones initiated from
Linux).

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Re: where to upgrade 12-stable now, svn still, or git?

2021-02-17 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable



On 2021-Feb-12, at 23:03, Mark Millard  wrote:

> Dewayne Geraghty dewayne at heuristicsystems.com.au wrote on
> Sat Feb 13 06:04:52 UTC 2021 :
> 
>> The main list we used was:
>> 
>> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-stable-12/
>> 
>> but that appears dead.
>> . . .
>> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-release/
>> 
>> suspect also dead.
> 
> I should have mentioned this area in my reply to tech-lists.
> This part of things is more git based now, probably
> meaning more use of https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ to look
> at commits/check-ins is needed in order to see the modern
> cross-references between svn and git. (Such is not available
> from the git side.)
> 
> (Older history in svn does not have git references as
> far as I know.)
> 
>> I suspect that
>> 
>> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/dev-commits-src-branches/2021-January/thread.html
>> 
>> is the stable-12 equivalent but are incremental patch releases also
>> available here?
> 
> 
> That covers stable/11 , stable/12 , and stable/13 . But no list
> that I know of covers any releng/* or release/* commit activity.

That last sentence is false as of today for releng/13.0 :

https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/dev-commits-src-branches/2021-February/thread.html

lists 7 releng/13.0 entries, the first being:

git: 00abeecb4a25 - releng/13.0 - pf: Slightly relax pf_rule_addr validation   
Kristof Provost


> For the git side of things, one has to look at the likes of
> branches via cgit (or whatever) via the likes of:
> 
> https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/log/?h=releng/12.2
> https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/log/?h=releng/13.0
> 
> Something like release/12.2.0 seems to be via a tag
> on a commit. So https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/log/?h=releng/12.2
> lists it but https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/log/?h=stable/12
> does not. (There are commits to releng/12.2 after the
> release/12.2.0 tag.)
> 
> Of course, for 12 there still is:
> 
> https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/release/12.2.0/
> https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/releng/12.2/
> 
> as a svn side view of things that has the modern
> cross references to git included.




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Re: [pf] stable/12: block by OS broken

2021-02-17 Thread Xin Li via freebsd-stable
On 2/17/21 22:35, Kristof Provost wrote:
> On 18 Feb 2021, at 6:01, Xin Li wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> It appears that some change between 939430f2377 (December 31) and
> b4bf7bdeb70 (today) on stable/12 have broken pf in a way that the
> following rule:
> 
> block in quick proto tcp from any os "Linux" to any port ssh
> 
> would get interpreted as:
> 
> block drop in quick proto tcp from any to any port = 22
> 
> (and block all SSH connection instead of just the ones initiated from
> Linux).
> 
> Thanks for the report. I think I see the problem.
> 
> Can you test this patch?
> 
> |diff --git a/sys/netpfil/pf/pf_ioctl.c b/sys/netpfil/pf/pf_ioctl.c
> index 593a38d4a360..458c6af3fa5e 100644 --- a/sys/netpfil/pf/pf_ioctl.c
> +++ b/sys/netpfil/pf/pf_ioctl.c @@ -1623,7 +1623,7 @@
> pf_rule_to_krule(const struct pf_rule *rule, struct pf_krule *krule) /*
> Don't allow userspace to set evaulations, packets or bytes. */ /* kif,
> anchor, overload_tbl are not copied over. */ - krule->os_fingerprint =
> krule->os_fingerprint; + krule->os_fingerprint = rule->os_fingerprint;
> krule->rtableid = rule->rtableid; bcopy(rule->timeout, krule->timeout,
> sizeof(krule->timeout)); |
> 
> With any luck we’ll be able to include the fix in 13.0.

Thanks, I'll try this on a -CURRENT box which is exhibiting the same
issue and report back as soon as possible.

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Re: [pf] stable/12: block by OS broken

2021-02-17 Thread Xin Li via freebsd-stable
On 2/17/21 22:57, Xin Li wrote:
> On 2/17/21 22:35, Kristof Provost wrote:
>> On 18 Feb 2021, at 6:01, Xin Li wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> It appears that some change between 939430f2377 (December 31) and
>> b4bf7bdeb70 (today) on stable/12 have broken pf in a way that the
>> following rule:
>>
>> block in quick proto tcp from any os "Linux" to any port ssh
>>
>> would get interpreted as:
>>
>> block drop in quick proto tcp from any to any port = 22
>>
>> (and block all SSH connection instead of just the ones initiated from
>> Linux).
>>
>> Thanks for the report. I think I see the problem.
>>
>> Can you test this patch?
>>
>> |diff --git a/sys/netpfil/pf/pf_ioctl.c b/sys/netpfil/pf/pf_ioctl.c
>> index 593a38d4a360..458c6af3fa5e 100644 --- a/sys/netpfil/pf/pf_ioctl.c
>> +++ b/sys/netpfil/pf/pf_ioctl.c @@ -1623,7 +1623,7 @@
>> pf_rule_to_krule(const struct pf_rule *rule, struct pf_krule *krule) /*
>> Don't allow userspace to set evaulations, packets or bytes. */ /* kif,
>> anchor, overload_tbl are not copied over. */ - krule->os_fingerprint =
>> krule->os_fingerprint; + krule->os_fingerprint = rule->os_fingerprint;
>> krule->rtableid = rule->rtableid; bcopy(rule->timeout, krule->timeout,
>> sizeof(krule->timeout)); |
>>
>> With any luck we’ll be able to include the fix in 13.0.
> 
> Thanks, I'll try this on a -CURRENT box which is exhibiting the same
> issue and report back as soon as possible.

And I can confirm that this fixed the issue on -CURRENT, thanks for the
quick fix!

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Re: git to svn update frequency ?

2021-02-18 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
mike tancsa mike at sentex.net wrote on
Thu Feb 18 10:33:14 UTC 2021 :

> On 2/17/2021 12:10 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
> > On Feb 17, 2021, at 6:05 AM, mike tancsa  wrote:
> >> I noticed on a box that I update RELENG_12 via git there are more
> >> recent commits then if I use svnlite to track.  Are they only
> >> periodically updated ? If so, how frequently do they get refreshed ? 
> >> e.g. I see the new OpenSSL version in git, but not when I update via
> >> svnlite.
> > Yes. There is a lag for a number of reasons. The updates happen on a 
> > batched basis (it’s a script I wrote) and then there’s a delay in 
> > replication to the main subversion servers. I believe that the rate is on 
> > the scale of hourly, but lwhsu will have to answer that detail.
> >
> Hi Warner & Li-Wen,
> 
> I think something might be broken somewhere ? The last update is
> from ~ 36 hrs ago and there have been many commits to the git repo since
> for RELENG_12.
> 
> # svnlite update
> Updating '.':
> At revision 369283.
> #

You are referencing 12, not 13 . . .

https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/log/?h=releng/12.0

shows the most recent releng/12.0 in git is from 2021-Jan-28:

Commit message (Expand) Author  Age Files   Lines
Add UPDATING entries and bump version.releng/12.0   Gordon Tetlow   
2020-01-28  2   -1/+17


Are you confusing stable/12 and releng/12.0 or 
possibly releng/12.0 and releng/13.0 ?

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Re: git to svn update frequency ?

2021-02-18 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable


On 2021-Feb-18, at 05:33, Mark Millard  wrote:

> mike tancsa mike at sentex.net wrote on
> Thu Feb 18 10:33:14 UTC 2021 :
> 
>> On 2/17/2021 12:10 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
>>> On Feb 17, 2021, at 6:05 AM, mike tancsa  wrote:
>>>>I noticed on a box that I update RELENG_12 via git there are more
>>>> recent commits then if I use svnlite to track.  Are they only
>>>> periodically updated ? If so, how frequently do they get refreshed ? 
>>>> e.g. I see the new OpenSSL version in git, but not when I update via
>>>> svnlite.
>>> Yes. There is a lag for a number of reasons. The updates happen on a 
>>> batched basis (it’s a script I wrote) and then there’s a delay in 
>>> replication to the main subversion servers. I believe that the rate is on 
>>> the scale of hourly, but lwhsu will have to answer that detail.
>>> 
>> Hi Warner & Li-Wen,
>> 
>>I think something might be broken somewhere ? The last update is
>> from ~ 36 hrs ago and there have been many commits to the git repo since
>> for RELENG_12.
>> 
>> # svnlite update
>> Updating '.':
>> At revision 369283.
>> #
> 
> You are referencing 12, not 13 . . .
> 
> https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/log/?h=releng/12.0
> 
> shows the most recent releng/12.0 in git is from 2021-Jan-28:
> 
> Commit message (Expand)   Author  Age Files   Lines
> Add UPDATING entries and bump version.releng/12.0 Gordon Tetlow   
> 2020-01-28  2   -1/+17
> 
> 
> Are you confusing stable/12 and releng/12.0 or 
> possibly releng/12.0 and releng/13.0 ?

Dumb of me to show releng/12.0 instead of releng/12.2 , I guess.
But I luck out: releng/12.2 was only one day more recent . . .

https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/log/?h=releng/12.2

shows:

Commit message (Expand) Author  Age     Files   Lines
Add UPDATING entry and bump versionreleng/12.2  Ed Maste2021-01-29  
2   -1/+17


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Re: FreeBSD 13/stable and zpool upgrade

2021-02-19 Thread Greg Rivers via freebsd-stable
On Friday, 19 February 2021 12:24:24 CST Kurt Jaeger wrote:
> > > Unfortunately it contains an old version of the boot loader:
> [...]
> > We should be better about upgrading boot blocks, but EFI is kinda new and
> > kinda different than the other out-of-root-filesystem boot blocks we've had
> > in the past, so there's still some rough edges.
> 
> We run many systems at remote sites. If we can't remotely upgrade
> without drama from 12.x to 13.x, that would be a catastrophe.
> 
> Any chance this can be fixed before 13.0-REL ?
> 
Informed by reading the bsdinstall(8) scripts, I've been creating my own 
boot1.efifat thusly:

#!/usr/bin/env sh
TMPDIR=/mnt
rm -f /boot/boot1.efifat
newfs_msdos -F 32 -c 1 -L EFISYS -C 200m /boot/boot1.efifat
MD=$(mdconfig -f /boot/boot1.efifat)
mount -t msdosfs /dev/${MD} ${TMPDIR}
mkdir -p ${TMPDIR}/efi/boot ${TMPDIR}/efi/freebsd
cp -a /boot/loader.efi ${TMPDIR}/efi/boot/bootx64.efi
cp -a /boot/loader.efi ${TMPDIR}/efi/freebsd/
umount ${TMPDIR}
mdconfig -d -u ${MD}

Then I use `gpart bootcode -p /boot/boot1.efifat ...` as usual.

To avoid confusion and errors, I think a proper boot1.efifat should be put back 
into the base system so that people don't have to track the above recipe (which 
is likely to change).

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13.0-BETA3 frequent file system (UFS) hangs

2021-02-22 Thread Florian Smeets via freebsd-stable

Hi,

on Sunday I upgraded a lightly loaded web server (Nginx+PHP-FPM+MariaDB) 
from 12.2-RELEASE-p3 to 13.0-BETA3. The server has been hanging every 
few hours (between 2-12). Until now the only remedy I found was a reboot.


When the issue appears I can still read from the file system, I was able 
to touch a (new) file, but not delete it.


load: 0.49  cmd: rm 78200 [biowr] 7.31r 0.00u 0.28s 1% 2192k
mi_switch+0xc1 _sleep+0x1cb bwait+0x6e bufwrite+0x206 ffs_update+0x2d0 
ffs_syncvnode+0x552 softdep_prelink+0x14b ufs_remove+0x85 
VOP_REMOVE_APV+0x27 kern_funlinkat+0x2d5 sys_unlink+0x28 
amd64_syscall+0x10c fast_syscall_common+0xf8


The system is UFS only.

/dev/da0s1a on / (ufs, local, noatime, journaled soft-updates, writes: 
sync 19483 async 3361, reads: sync 24501 async 4191, fsid 374666591e63cded)


For some of the reboots I see the following in the log before rebooting:

Feb 21 15:21:57 web01 kernel: Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system 
process `vnlru' to stop... done
Feb 21 15:21:57 web01 kernel: Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system 
process `syncer' to stop...
Feb 21 15:21:57 web01 kernel: Syncing disks, vnodes remaining... 20 
fsync: giving up on dirty (error = 35) 0xf80003815b70: type VCHR
Feb 21 15:21:57 web01 kernel: usecount 1, writecount 0, refcount 
1074 seqc users 0 rdev 0xf80004c3f000

Feb 21 15:21:57 web01 kernel: hold count flags ()
Feb 21 15:21:57 web01 kernel: flags ()
Feb 21 15:21:57 web01 kernel: v_object 0xf800030d0c60 ref 0 
pages 45500 cleanbuf 1071 dirtybuf 1
Feb 21 15:21:57 web01 kernel: lock type mntfs: EXCL by thread 
0xfe00c33fc000 (pid 24, syncer, tid 100097)

Feb 21 15:21:57 web01 kernel: 9 5 0 0 done

Is this related to the thread "FreeBSD 13.0-BETA2 and slow IO" ?

I have a stable/13 kernel on there now, but that also hung once already.

Do I need to disable SU/SUJ or put a main kernel on there to get it stable?

Thanks,
Florian


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Re: lots of "no such file or directory" errors in zfs filesystem

2021-02-23 Thread Peter Jeremy via freebsd-stable
On 2021-Feb-23 11:30:58 -0600, Chris Anderson  wrote:
>nope, it led a pretty boring life. that zfs filesystem was created on that
>server and has been on the same two mirrored disks for its lifetime.

Does the server have ECC RAM?  Possibly it's a bitflip somewhere before
the data got to disk.

>prior to the upgrades) the server does have a relatively modest amount of
>ram (2GB). dunno if that makes it more likely that these kinds of issues
>get triggered.

Low amounts of RAM are going to increase the IO load but shouldn't
otherwise impact the filesystem consistency.  I have a FreeBSD test
system that's running ZFS in <1GB RAM and rebuilding itself daily for
multiple years and haven't run into any ZFS corruption issues.

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Re: When did pkg(8) drop support for 12-stable?

2021-02-23 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
(Warner is only CC'd here.)

Warner Losh imp at bsdimp.com wrote on
Wed Feb 24 01:04:13 UTC 2021 :

> On Tue, Feb 23, 2021, 4:51 PM Chris  wrote:
> 
> > Given this is a pkg(8) error, I brought it up on ports@
> > but it was suggested I (also?) bring it up here on stable@
> >
> > OK awhile back I installed a copy of 12 stable from the
> > usb stick image. I tweaked it to my wishes then got called
> > away and haven't been able to get back to it until the other
> > day. This is still a fresh install which has a populated /usr/src.
> > So I
> > svnlite co svn://svn.freebsd.org/ports/head /usr/ports
> > followed by a
> > cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg/ && make install clean
> > which returns
> > make
> > /!\ ERROR: /!\
> >
> > Ports Collection support for your FreeBSD version has ended, and no ports
> > are
> > guaranteed to build on this syst
> em. Please upgrade to a supported release.
> >
> > No support will be provided if you silence this message by defining
> > ALLOW_UNSUPPORTED_SYSTEM.
> >
> > *** Error code 1
> >
> > Stop.
> > Err what? Ok while I think this was from stable 12.1, it's still still 12,
> > and it's on stable. So what gives?
> >
> 
> 12.1 has reached EOL now that 12.2 has been out a while.

>From release/12.1.0/ :

"Tag releng/12.1@r354233 as release/12.1.0 (12.1-RELEASE)"

I think that implicit in Warner's response is that
versions of stable/12/ that are not after r354233 are
also EOL. One needs to have stable/12/ material from
after -r354233 in order for it to be supported.

He might even mean that stable/12/ material from before:

"Tag releng/12.2@r366954 as release/12.2.0 (12.2-RELEASE)"

would also be considered as not supported.

To be safe you should be using stable/12/ material from
on or after -r366954 in order to have a supported
context.

(I'm not sure if anything is explicit about the status
of stable/12/ material between releng/12.1@r354233
and releng/12.2@r366954 .)

Since you did not provide the output from the
likes of "uname -apKU" (or some rough equivalent)
I've no direct clue which version you were trying.
But you should be able to compare to the above to
see which range the material is from.

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Re: When did pkg(8) drop support for 12-stable?

2021-02-23 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
On 2021-Feb-23, at 18:08, Chris  wrote:

> On 2021-02-23 17:42, Mark Millard wrote:
>> (Warner is only CC'd here.)
>> Warner Losh imp at bsdimp.com wrote on
>> Wed Feb 24 01:04:13 UTC 2021 :
>>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2021, 4:51 PM Chris  wrote:
>>> > Given this is a pkg(8) error, I brought it up on ports@
>>> > but it was suggested I (also?) bring it up here on stable@
>>> >
>>> > OK awhile back I installed a copy of 12 stable from the
>>> > usb stick image. I tweaked it to my wishes then got called
>>> > away and haven't been able to get back to it until the other
>>> > day. This is still a fresh install which has a populated /usr/src.
>>> > So I
>>> > svnlite co svn://svn.freebsd.org/ports/head /usr/ports
>>> > followed by a
>>> > cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg/ && make install clean
>>> > which returns
>>> > make
>>> > /!\ ERROR: /!\
>>> >
>>> > Ports Collection support for your FreeBSD version has ended, and no ports
>>> > are
>>> > guaranteed to build on this syst
>>> em. Please upgrade to a supported release.
>>> >
>>> > No support will be provided if you silence this message by defining
>>> > ALLOW_UNSUPPORTED_SYSTEM.
>>> >
>>> > *** Error code 1
>>> >
>>> > Stop.
>>> > Err what? Ok while I think this was from stable 12.1, it's still still 12,
>>> > and it's on stable. So what gives?
>>> >
>>> 12.1 has reached EOL now that 12.2 has been out a while.
>>> From release/12.1.0/ :
>> "Tag releng/12.1@r354233 as release/12.1.0 (12.1-RELEASE)"
>> I think that implicit in Warner's response is that
>> versions of stable/12/ that are not after r354233 are
>> also EOL. One needs to have stable/12/ material from
>> after -r354233 in order for it to be supported.
>> He might even mean that stable/12/ material from before:
>> "Tag releng/12.2@r366954 as release/12.2.0 (12.2-RELEASE)"
>> would also be considered as not supported.
>> To be safe you should be using stable/12/ material from
>> on or after -r366954 in order to have a supported
>> context.
>> (I'm not sure if anything is explicit about the status
>> of stable/12/ material between releng/12.1@r354233
>> and releng/12.2@r366954 .)
> A HUGE thanks for all of this, Mark. This is EXACTLY what I needed.
> 
> # uname -apKU
> FreeBSD fbsd12dev 12.1-STABLE FreeBSD 12.1-STABLE r363918 GENERIC  amd64 
> amd64 1201522 1201522
> which pretty well confirms what you deduced.
> I'm still a bit confused. It seems to me that it didn't _used_
> to be that way. But my brain isn't using ECC. So a couple of
> bits may be flipped.

The implication of all of stable/12/ being supported
would be support of stable/12/ from on or after its
creation:

QUOTE
Revision 339434 - Directory Listing 
Modified Fri Oct 19 00:09:24 2018 UTC (2 years, 4 months ago) by gjb 
Copied from: head revision 339432
Copy head@r339432
 to stable/12 as part of the 12.0-RELEASE cycle.

Additional post-branch commits will follow.
END QUOTE

Such does not seem likely to me. What would be the
point of dropping 12.0-RELEASE support and
12.1-RELEASE support if such stable/12/ history was
covered, some of that history being minor variations
on the 12.0-RELEASE or 12.1-RELEASE ?

Note:
Despite some claims in other messages, svn -r363918
is not 12.1-RELEASE ( not -r354233 ) and -r363918
is shown as (only) in stable/12/ by svn. Your
claim of 12-STABLE was correct, just not detailed
enough.


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Re: Drastic slowdown for geli attach

2021-02-24 Thread Greg Rivers via freebsd-stable
On Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:34:06 CST Kevin Oberman wrote:
> Sometime around the first week of this month (February) the time to do a
> geli attach on my 13.0-ALPHA3 amd64 system sharply increased. It started
> taking about 10 seconds. Prior to this, it took about 3-4 seconds. I have
> not seen any issues with the disc after it attaches, I am simply concerned
> that the longer time may be indicative of a deeper issue.
> 
Just for reference, I have not experienced this with 13.0-BETA3.

> The system is a ThinkPad L15 with a CometLake i5-10210U and a Seagate
> ST2000LM007-1R8174 2T HDD.
> 
I have 13.0-BETA3 on a HP laptop (HP EliteBook 850 G1) and on a small low-power 
PC (Gigabyte J1900N-D3V). No issues of any kind so far.

I know this doesn't help you directly, but at least it's a data point.

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Re: How do I know if my 13-stable has security patches?

2021-02-25 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
4
|\  
| * Update vendor/openzfs to master-9312e0fd1vendor/openzfs Martin Matuska  
4 days  36  -247/+716
* | Fix build after 2c7dc6bae9fd.   Alexander Motin 4 days  1   -0/+4
* | Refactor CTL datamove KPI.  Alexander Motin 4 days  12  -162/+94
* | jail: Add pr_state to struct prison Jamie Gritton   4 days  2   
-51/+65
* | vfs: shrink struct vnode to 448 bytes on LP64   Mateusz Guzik   4 days  
1   -1/+12
* | jail: fix build after the previous commit   Mateusz Guzik   4 days  
1   -1/+1
* | jail: Change the locking around pr_ref and pr_uref  Jamie Gritton   
4 days  6   -235/+232
* | sctp: improve computation of an alternate net   Michael Tuexen  5 days  
1   -36/+49
* | sctp: clear a pointer to a net which will be removed
. . . (all the prior history) . . .

and an empty vs. non-empty status is easier to tell
apart.


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Trying do mount a slice containing a mounted partition makes the filesystem unreadable

2021-02-26 Thread Arrigo Marchiori via freebsd-stable
Dear All,

I think I found a bug that is similar to an already reported one, but
I am not sure.

Description: when a BSD partition is mounted to / (suppose
/dev/da0s2a), if I try to mount its containing slice (/dev/da0s2) I
receive a ``strange'' error message, and from that moment the mounted
filesystem becomes unreadable.

This problem appears:
 - on a memstick built from 11.4-STABLE r369279,
 - on the ``official'' 12.2-RELEASE memstick,
both tested on amd64.

Fun fact: the problem does _not_ appear if the already-mounted
filesystem is mounted from /dev/ufs/label instead of /dev/da0s2a.

Steps to reproduce on 12.2-RELEASE
==

 1- download the official memstick image for 12.2-RELEASE-amd64 and
 flash it into a USB pen drive

 2- edit /boot/loader.conf on the memstick adding the following lines
 (needed to boot successfully on my test system):
kern.vty=sc
kern.cam.boot_delay=1
kern.cam.scsi_delay=1

 3- edit /etc/fstab on the memstick and change the root device from
 /dev/ufs/FreeBSD_Install to /dev/da0s2a

 4- boot the memstick and open a shell

 5- # mount /dev/da0s2 /mnt
mount: /dev/da0s2: No such file or directory <--- strange message!

 6- the filesystem is now unreadable! For example, trying to run some
binaries not yet in the cache:
# man
/usr/bin/man: Device not configured

If I try to reboot, the console is flooded by:

> vm_fault: pager read error, pid 1 (init)

This problem also appears on a memstick built from 11.4-STABLE
r369279. The error messages are different, but the outcome is the
same.

Expected behavior
=

If the root partition is mounted from /dev/ufs/label (i.e. you skip
step 3 above) the culprit mount command (step 5 above) gives the
following error message:

> mount: /dev/da0s2: Operation not permitted

and the system remains healty and stable.

Am I seeing PR 222948:
https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=222948 or is it
something else?

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Re: Trying do mount a slice containing a mounted partition makes the filesystem unreadable

2021-02-27 Thread Arrigo Marchiori via freebsd-stable
Hello Helge, Kevin, and thank you for replying.

On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 09:21:39AM +0100, Helge Oldach wrote:

> Kevin P. Neal wrote on Sat, 27 Feb 2021 03:04:35 +0100 (CET):
> > On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 06:25:05PM +0100, Helge Oldach wrote:
> > > Arrigo Marchiori via freebsd-stable wrote on Fri, 26 Feb 2021 17:02:35 
> > > +0100 (CET):
> > > > Description: when a BSD partition is mounted to / (suppose
> > > > /dev/da0s2a), if I try to mount its containing slice (/dev/da0s2) I
> > > > receive a ``strange'' error message, and from that moment the mounted
> > > > filesystem becomes unreadable.
> > > 
> > > Actually you are mounting the same location on disk twice under
> > > different file systems which is a bad idea.
> > > 
> > > For example:
> > > 
> > > # gpart show -p ada0s2
> > > =>0  250064341   ada0s2  BSD  (119G)
> > >   0  241172480  ada0s2a  freebsd-ufs  (115G)
> > >   2411724808891861  ada0s2b  freebsd-swap  (4.2G)
> > > 
> > > Note the "0" offset for both ada0s2 and ada0s2a. When you mount, both
> > > "look" like a proper, distinct UFS but actually it's the same location
> > > on disk so UFS will get confused if you have both mounted rw. It should
> > > go well however if only one is mounted rw and the other(s) ro.

I believe that the memstick images may not organized as you pointed
out.  The standard behavior of mkimg(1) is to leave a small gap
between the beginning of the slice and the beginning of the first
partition.  But I will be able to confirm on Monday, when I will be
back to the office.

> > Wait, really? It seems like the ro mount wouldn't see any blocks (or other
> > unit of data) cached by the rw mount. So the ro mount would see an
> > inconsistent filesystem and I personally would expect a crash or other
> > misbehavior.
> 
> Of course the ro "view" will show inconistencies. That's actually what
> one asks for if doing such bad things as mounting volumes twice. However
> it shouldn't crash as the rw mount of / maintains consistency.

On the memstick, the root filesystem is mounted read-only.  I
apologize, I should have told it explicitly.  The ``invalid'' attempt
is to mount it read-write (no mode is indicated on the command line).

I did not try the mount command in read-only mode. I can try this on
Monday as well.

IMHO it is important to note that everything works as expected when
the partition is mounted from /dev/ufs/label: the mount attempt is
not permitted and nothing else happens.

Even if mounting an already-mounted partition is an invalid action, I
do not think that it should render a system unstable. 

I understand that ``the root user should be allowed to do anything'',
even shoot themselves in the foot. But on the other hand, there are
features such as kern.geom.debugflags that explicitly avoid it.

I hope I could explain myself clearly.

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Re: Trying do mount a slice containing a mounted partition makes the filesystem unreadable

2021-02-27 Thread Arrigo Marchiori via freebsd-stable
Hello Helge, and thank you for replying again.

On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 03:43:52PM +0100, Helge Oldach wrote:

> Arrigo Marchiori via freebsd-stable wrote on Sat, 27 Feb 2021 14:00:24 +0100 
> (CET):
> > On the memstick, the root filesystem is mounted read-only.  I
> > apologize, I should have told it explicitly.  The ``invalid'' attempt
> > is to mount it read-write (no mode is indicated on the command line).
> 
> Try to make it r/w mounted (which I suspect you are attempting to
> achieve):
> 
> mount -uw /

Ok, I will try this.

But just for the record: I am not try to achieve anything.  I gave the
``invalid'' mount command by mistake (I wanted to mount a partition
from another disk and wrote "da0" instead of "da1") and I saw that the
system became unstable. I thought that this should not happen and I
reported it here.

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Re: Trying do mount a slice containing a r/o mounted partition makes the filesystem unreadable

2021-03-01 Thread Arrigo Marchiori via freebsd-stable
Dear All,

On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 04:34:52PM +0100, Arrigo Marchiori via freebsd-stable 
wrote:

> Hello Helge, and thank you for replying again.
> 
> On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 03:43:52PM +0100, Helge Oldach wrote:
> 
> > Arrigo Marchiori via freebsd-stable wrote on Sat, 27 Feb 2021 14:00:24 
> > +0100 (CET):
> > > On the memstick, the root filesystem is mounted read-only.  I
> > > apologize, I should have told it explicitly.  The ``invalid'' attempt
> > > is to mount it read-write (no mode is indicated on the command line).
> > 
> > Try to make it r/w mounted (which I suspect you are attempting to
> > achieve):
> > 
> > mount -uw /
> 
> Ok, I will try this.
> 
> But just for the record: I am not try to achieve anything.  I gave the
> ``invalid'' mount command by mistake (I wanted to mount a partition
> from another disk and wrote "da0" instead of "da1") and I saw that the
> system became unstable. I thought that this should not happen and I
> reported it here.

I have two updates.

 1- the da0s2a slice starts 16 (blocks?) after the beginning of da0s2.
bsdlabel(8) output (copied by hand):
# /dev/da0s2:
8 partitions:
#   size offsetfstype[fsize  bsize bps/cpg]
  a: 1491200 164.2BSD 0  0 0
  c: 1491216  0unused 0  0 # "raw" part, don't edit

 2- if I mount the partition rw, then the mount command _always_ fails
 with error "operation not permitted" and the system _always_ remains
 stable. This is independent from mounting from /dev/ufs/label or
 /dev/da0s2a.

Therefore I can change the description of this problem report as:

8<8<8<8<8<8<8<-

When a BSD partition is mounted _read_only_ to / (suppose
/dev/da0s2a), if I try to mount its containing slice (/dev/da0s2) I
receive a ``strange'' error message, and from that moment the mounted
filesystem becomes unreadable.

 - If the partition is mounted from /dev/ufs/label, then mount(8)
reports "Operation not permitted" and the system remains stable.
This is the expected behavior IMHO.

 - If the partition is mounted read_write, from any special device,
   then mount(8) reports:
 - "Operation not permitted" if I try to mount the slice rw,
 - the same strange error message if I try to mount the slice ro,
   and the system remains stable.

 - The "strange error message" is "invalid argument" on 11.4-STABLE.

8<8<8<8<8<8<8<-

Now to the question: is this worth a PR? Was it already reported?  Or
is it just something that ``should not happen'' because root should be
allowed to shoot themselves in the foot?

Thank you in advance and best regards,
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Re: FreeBSD 13.0-BETA2 and slow IO

2021-03-02 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
Kevin Oberman rkoberman at gmail.com wrote on
Mon Mar 1 07:11:32 UTC 2021 :

> On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 12:49 PM Christos Chatzaras 
> wrote:
> 
> > Did someone test if this is fixed in BETA4?
> >
> 
> Just tried to "make extract" on firefox and I am still seeing transfer
> rates around 1.7M when I would expect more like 50M. If I see the same
> thing others are, it runs for a while at >40MB and abruptly drops to
> 1.5-20M for some random time varying from a few seconds to minutes before
> jumping back to >40MB. Is this what others are seeing?

I'll note that someone submitted:

https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-bugs/2021-March/100124.html

against 13.0-BETA4 for the UFS journaled soft-updates
related performance issue(s). They compared something
to 12.1-RELEASE for illustration.

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Re: Trying do mount a slice containing a r/o mounted partition makes the filesystem unreadable

2021-03-03 Thread Arrigo Marchiori via freebsd-stable
Dear All,

On Tue, Mar 02, 2021 at 10:55:15AM +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote:

> On 02/03/2021 09:50, Arrigo Marchiori via freebsd-stable wrote:
> > Dear All,
> > 
> > On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 04:34:52PM +0100, Arrigo Marchiori via 
> > freebsd-stable wrote:
> > 
> >> Hello Helge, and thank you for replying again.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 03:43:52PM +0100, Helge Oldach wrote:
> >>
> >>> Arrigo Marchiori via freebsd-stable wrote on Sat, 27 Feb 2021 14:00:24 
> >>> +0100 (CET):
> >>>> On the memstick, the root filesystem is mounted read-only.  I
> >>>> apologize, I should have told it explicitly.  The ``invalid'' attempt
> >>>> is to mount it read-write (no mode is indicated on the command line).
> >>>
> >>> Try to make it r/w mounted (which I suspect you are attempting to
> >>> achieve):
> >>>
> >>> mount -uw /
> >>
> >> Ok, I will try this.
> >>
> >> But just for the record: I am not try to achieve anything.  I gave the
> >> ``invalid'' mount command by mistake (I wanted to mount a partition
> >> from another disk and wrote "da0" instead of "da1") and I saw that the
> >> system became unstable. I thought that this should not happen and I
> >> reported it here.
> > 
> > I have two updates.
> > 
> >  1- the da0s2a slice starts 16 (blocks?) after the beginning of da0s2.
> > bsdlabel(8) output (copied by hand):
> > # /dev/da0s2:
> > 8 partitions:
> > #   size offsetfstype[fsize  bsize bps/cpg]
> >   a: 1491200 164.2BSD 0  0 0
> >   c: 1491216  0unused 0  0 # "raw" part, don't 
> > edit
> > 
> >  2- if I mount the partition rw, then the mount command _always_ fails
> >  with error "operation not permitted" and the system _always_ remains
> >  stable. This is independent from mounting from /dev/ufs/label or
> >  /dev/da0s2a.
> > 
> > Therefore I can change the description of this problem report as:
> > 
> > 8<8<8<8<8<8<8<-
> > 
> > When a BSD partition is mounted _read_only_ to / (suppose
> > /dev/da0s2a), if I try to mount its containing slice (/dev/da0s2) I
> > receive a ``strange'' error message, and from that moment the mounted
> > filesystem becomes unreadable.
> > 
> >  - If the partition is mounted from /dev/ufs/label, then mount(8)
> > reports "Operation not permitted" and the system remains stable.
> > This is the expected behavior IMHO.
> > 
> >  - If the partition is mounted read_write, from any special device,
> >then mount(8) reports:
> >  - "Operation not permitted" if I try to mount the slice rw,
> >  - the same strange error message if I try to mount the slice ro,
> >and the system remains stable.
> > 
> >  - The "strange error message" is "invalid argument" on 11.4-STABLE.
> > 
> > 8<8<8<8<8<8<8<-
> > 
> > Now to the question: is this worth a PR? Was it already reported?  Or
> > is it just something that ``should not happen'' because root should be
> > allowed to shoot themselves in the foot?
> > 
> > Thank you in advance and best regards,
> 
> I think that this is worth a PR.

Just reported:
https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=254005

> I think that even when mounting read-only the underlying GEOM object should be
> marked for exclusive use.
> I vaguely recall that UFS has some quirk in this respect to allow for
> modifications by fsck.  That is supposed to be limited to the root filesystem.
> Maybe it should further be limited to certain boot stages to prevent
> foot-shooting after a system is fully booted.

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Re: Filesystem operations slower in 13.0 than 12.2

2021-03-04 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
>175  block output operations
>   4412  messages sent
>2536379  messages received
>  0  signals received
> 385527  voluntary context switches
>369  involuntary context switches
> 
> --
> 
> Differences between 13.0 and 14-CURRENT maybe related to debugging features.
> 
> But 13.0-BETA4 is slower than 12.2. Does someone have more information about 
> this?

Again, I expect that the "time -l" figures may point in
different directions for "portsnap extract" vs.
"rm -fr /usr/ports" in your context. The question may
need to be split because the answers may be different.

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Re: Filesystem operations slower in 13.0 than 12.2

2021-03-05 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
0  messages received
>> 0  signals received
>>354648  voluntary context switches
>>   322  involuntary context switches
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> FreeBSD 13.0-BETA2 (2021-02-12)
>> 
>>  497.88 real76.06 user   120.03 sys
>> 49032  maximum resident set size
>>22  average shared memory size
>> 3  average unshared data size
>>91  average unshared stack size
>>  12288156  page reclaims
>>23  page faults
>> 0  swaps
>> 29890  block input operations
>>621229  block output operations
>>  4412  messages sent
>>   2536379  messages received
>> 0  signals received
>>   1004790  voluntary context switches
>>   251  involuntary context switches
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> FreeBSD 13.0-BETA4 (2021-02-26)
>> 
>>  163.81 real71.93 user   107.32 sys
>> 49032  maximum resident set size
>>21  average shared memory size
>> 3  average unshared data size
>>89  average unshared stack size
>>  12288156  page reclaims
>> 5  page faults
>> 0  swaps
>>   716  block input operations
>>   868  block output operations
>>  4412  messages sent
>>   2536379  messages received
>> 0  signals received
>>355244  voluntary context switches
>>   277  involuntary context switches
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> FreeBSD 14-CURRENT (2021-03-04)
>> 
>>  255.43 real74.94 user   148.90 sys
>> 49032  maximum resident set size
>>23  average shared memory size
>> 3  average unshared data size
>>96  average unshared stack size
>>  12288156  page reclaims
>>23  page faults
>> 0  swaps
>> 31207  block input operations
>>   175  block output operations
>>  4412  messages sent
>>   2536379  messages received
>> 0  signals received
>>385527  voluntary context switches
>>   369  involuntary context switches
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Differences between 13.0 and 14-CURRENT maybe related to debugging features.
>> 
>> But 13.0-BETA4 is slower than 12.2. Does someone have more information about 
>> this?
> 
> Again, I expect that the "time -l" figures may point in
> different directions for "portsnap extract" vs.
> "rm -fr /usr/ports" in your context. The question may
> need to be split because the answers may be different.
> 

While I still think explicit "rm -fr" figures would be
good to show, I no longer read so much into the
messages sent and received figure differences.


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Re: Filesystem operations slower in 13.0 than 12.2

2021-03-05 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable


Konstantin Belousov kostikbel at gmail.com wrote on
Fri Mar 5 23:12:13 UTC 2021 :

> On Sat, Mar 06, 2021 at 12:27:55AM +0200, Christos Chatzaras wrote:
. . .
> > Command: /usr/bin/time -l portsnap extract (these tests done with 2 
> > different idle servers but with same 4TB HDDs models)
> > 
> > FreeBSD 12.2p4
> > 
> >99.45 real34.90 user59.63 sys
> >   100.00 real34.91 user59.97 sys
> >82.95 real35.98 user60.68 sys
> > 
> > FreeBSD 13.0-RC1
> > 
> >   217.43 real75.67 user   110.97 sys
> >   125.50 real63.00 user96.47 sys
> >   118.93 real62.91 user96.28 sys
> . . .
> In the portsnap results for 13RC1, the variance is too high to conclude
> anything, I think.

I'll note that there are other reports of wide variance
in transfer rates observed during an overall operation
such as "make extract". The one I'm thinking of is:

https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2021-March/093251.html

which is an update to earlier reports, but based on more recent
stable/13. https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=253968
comment 4 has some more notes about the context. The "make extract"
for firefox likely is not as complicated as the portsnap extract
example's execution structure.

Might be something to keep an eye on if there are on-going
examples of over time.

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geli broken in 13.0-BETA4 and later

2021-03-06 Thread Peter Jeremy via freebsd-stable
Somewhere between 13.0-ALPHA2 (c256201-g02611ef8ee9) and 13.0-BETA4
(releng/13.0-n244592-e32bc253629), geli (at least on my RockPro64 -
RK3399, arm64) has changed so that a geli-encrypted partition (using
AES-XTS 128) that was readable on 13.0-ALPHA2 becomes garbage on
13.0-BETA4.

I've verified that the garbage seems consistent between reboots and
isn't impacted by enabling the big cores in 7ba4d0f82955.  There's
nothing useful reported via geli debugging.

I've tried updating to releng/13.0 60e8939aa85b and it's still broken.

My suspicion is f76393a6305b - whilst that just talks about AES-GCM,
it does a reasonable job of roto-tilling the entire armv8crypto stack.
I notice that there are a fixes to f76393a6305b that don't seem to
have made it into releng/13.0 and I will continue to investigate.

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Re: geli broken in 13.0-BETA4 and later

2021-03-06 Thread Peter Jeremy via freebsd-stable
On 2021-Mar-06 19:18:37 +1100, Peter Jeremy via freebsd-stable 
 wrote:
>Somewhere between 13.0-ALPHA2 (c256201-g02611ef8ee9) and 13.0-BETA4
>(releng/13.0-n244592-e32bc253629), geli (at least on my RockPro64 -
>RK3399, arm64) has changed so that a geli-encrypted partition (using
>AES-XTS 128) that was readable on 13.0-ALPHA2 becomes garbage on
>13.0-BETA4.

I've confirmed that the problem is f76393a6305b - reverting that
commit fixes the problem in releng/13.0.

I've further verified that the bug is still present in main (14.x)
at 028616d0dd69.

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Re: geli broken in 13.0-BETA4 and later on armv8

2021-03-06 Thread Peter Jeremy via freebsd-stable
[Adding arm@ and making it clearer that this is armv8-only]

On 2021-Mar-06 20:26:19 +1100, Peter Jeremy  wrote:
>On 2021-Mar-06 19:18:37 +1100, Peter Jeremy via freebsd-stable 
> wrote:
>>Somewhere between 13.0-ALPHA2 (c256201-g02611ef8ee9) and 13.0-BETA4
>>(releng/13.0-n244592-e32bc253629), geli (at least on my RockPro64 -
>>RK3399, arm64) has changed so that a geli-encrypted partition (using
>>AES-XTS 128) that was readable on 13.0-ALPHA2 becomes garbage on
>>13.0-BETA4.
>
>I've confirmed that the problem is f76393a6305b - reverting that
>commit fixes the problem in releng/13.0.
>
>I've further verified that the bug is still present in main (14.x)
>at 028616d0dd69.

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Re: geli broken in 13.0-BETA4 and later on armv8

2021-03-06 Thread Peter Jeremy via freebsd-stable
On 2021-Mar-06 10:39:02 -0800, Oleksandr Tymoshenko  wrote:
>Peter Jeremy via freebsd-current (freebsd-curr...@freebsd.org) wrote:
>> [Adding arm@ and making it clearer that this is armv8-only]
>> 
>> On 2021-Mar-06 20:26:19 +1100, Peter Jeremy  
>> wrote:
>> >On 2021-Mar-06 19:18:37 +1100, Peter Jeremy via freebsd-stable 
>> > wrote:
>> >>Somewhere between 13.0-ALPHA2 (c256201-g02611ef8ee9) and 13.0-BETA4
>> >>(releng/13.0-n244592-e32bc253629), geli (at least on my RockPro64 -
>> >>RK3399, arm64) has changed so that a geli-encrypted partition (using
>> >>AES-XTS 128) that was readable on 13.0-ALPHA2 becomes garbage on
>> >>13.0-BETA4.
>> >
>> >I've confirmed that the problem is f76393a6305b - reverting that
>> >commit fixes the problem in releng/13.0.
>> >
>> >I've further verified that the bug is still present in main (14.x)
>> >at 028616d0dd69.
>
>Could you test this patch and let me know if it fixes the issue?
>
>https://people.freebsd.org/~gonzo/patches/armv8crypto-xts-fix.diff

Yes, it does.  Thank you very much.

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Re: Filesystem operations slower in 13.0 than 12.2

2021-03-14 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
g. SMART shows no errors and reasonable values for 
> everything. No indication of a HW problem. The system performs well unless I 
> do something that tries a bulk disk data move. Building world takes about 75 
> minutes. I just have a very hard time building big ports.

Almost like things were stuck-sleeping and then the
sleep(s) finished?


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Re: Filesystem operations slower in 13.0 than 12.2

2021-03-15 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
 VM_CNT_INC(v_intrans);
>>> if (VM_OBJECT_SLEEP(object, &object->handle, PSWP,
>>> "swread", hz * 20)) {
>>> printf(
>>> "swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: %p, blkno: %jd, size: %ld\n",
>>> bp->b_bufobj, (intmax_t)bp->b_blkno, 
>>> bp->b_bcount);
>>> }
>>> }
>>> VM_OBJECT_WUNLOCK(object);
>>> . . .
>>> 
>>> where:
>>> 
>>> #define VM_OBJECT_SLEEP(object, wchan, pri, wmesg, timo)\
>>> rw_sleep((wchan), &(object)->lock, (pri), (wmesg), (timo))
>>> 
>>> and:
>>> 
>>> #define rw_sleep(chan, rw, pri, wmesg, timo)\
>>> _sleep((chan), &(rw)->lock_object, (pri), (wmesg),  \
>>> tick_sbt * (timo), 0, C_HARDCLOCK)
>>> 
>>> (I do not claim to be able to interpret the implications
>>> of the code that leads to the messages. But seeing some
>>> of the code might prompt a thought by someone that knows
>>> the code's context and operation.)
>>> 
>>> > . . .
>>> > Backing off to Mar. 4 was not an improvement. My untar did seem better 
>>> > for a couple of minutes, but then the display froze again for 30 seconds 
>>> > and disk performance dropped to <1M.
>> 
>> You were able to see the disk performance drop while
>> the display was frozen?
>> 
> 
> No, but it refreshed the display when it un-froze and the refreshed display 
> showed a one-minute history that showed that data was still transferring 
> during the pause.
> 
>> It might not be the best for monitoring but I'll ask
>> this in terms of top output: Does Inact, Laundry,
>> Wired, Free, or other such show anything fairly unique
>> for around the problematical time frame(s)?
>  
> These all look pretty normal. Free memory stays at 13G throughout hte 
> operatioin. 
> 
>>> > then things got really bad and behaved in a manner that was baffling to 
>>> > me. The screen froze again, but stayed frozen after half a minute. I 
>>> > clicked on a couple of buttons in Firefox to no effect and then hit 
>>> > ctrl-q to quit. After the long pause, I pressed the power button to try 
>>> > to force a shutdown. Suddenly, it started unwinding everything I had done 
>>> > during the freeze. My browser did the updates from my mouse clicks 
>>> > including quitting. It then switched to a different workspace from 
>>> > ctrl-alt-right and did a clean shutdown.  
>>> > 
>>> > Do I also have a graphics issue? Examining log files show no indication 
>>> > that anything was happening. SMART shows no errors and reasonable values 
>>> > for everything. No indication of a HW problem. The system performs well 
>>> > unless I do something that tries a bulk disk data move. Building world 
>>> > takes about 75 minutes. I just have a very hard time building big ports.
>> 
>> Almost like things were stuck-sleeping and then the
>> sleep(s) finished?
> Exactly! 

Multi-socket (and possibly multi-core) PowerMacs have
not historically had the times used for controlling
sleeping that can be used across FreeBSD's cpus well
matched in any FreeBSD build without extra patches.

They suffer threads being stuck-sleeping for periods
not intended. This leads to fans running wild and
obvious problems during shutdown having timeouts,
though there are more consequences than are so
obvious.

That is where I got the idea for the question: some
similarity to operational problems that I've seen
when not using my patches that provide a work around
matching the times better in my contexts.

(I'm told the type of issue is not limited to PowerMacs,
but PowerMacs are the only PowerPCish machines I've
had access to. Doing the most accurate time matching
gets into platform specific operations, no general
solution for such accuracy. Similarly, only platform
specifics might scale to lots of sockets/cores well,
even without trying to be as well matched. My workaround
is generic to the range of PowerMacs that I've had
access to but is not as accurate about matching the
times.)

For your context: how many sockets? Cores per socket?
Any other information that might be relevant to
matching times across sockets/cores? I suppose that
the board matters, not just the processor(s) in the
sockets. But what all would be appropriate information?
I do not know.

I'm not sure if the kern.hz=100 results fit with this
idea or not. (Such was never involved in my PowerMac
experiments.)

It is only somewhat suggestive evidence as stands. But
time mismatches across socket/cores might be a
direction for investigation? (Not that I've a great
idea for how to investigate such.)


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ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 4 unable to boot 13.0-RC1

2021-03-19 Thread Fred Hall via freebsd-stable
I have a ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 4 (20FCS0NB00) which has happily run FreeBSD 11 
and 12, but which can't boot 13.0-RC1 from memstick or via freebsd-update. In 
both cases the boot process locks up on the line "hwpstate_intel0:  on cpu0"
If running freebsd-update, a work around is to add 
hint.hwpstate_intel.0.disabled="1" in loader.conf. See the note under the 
Eighth Generation (2020) in https://wiki.freebsd.org/Laptops/Thinkpad_X1_Carbon
I was quite surprised to find the lack of support for hwpstate_intel in 13 when 
it apparently worked under 11 and 12. Does anyone know the status of 
hwpstate_intel on ThinkPads?
Cheers, 
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Re: FreeBSD 13.0-RC3 Now Available

2021-03-22 Thread Goran Mekić via freebsd-stable
Hello,

I see the RC3 in the "Latest News" but not here: 
https://www.freebsd.org/releases/13.0R/schedule/
I hope I'm writing to the proper channels/list about this.

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Re: Filesystem operations slower in 13.0 than 12.2

2021-03-23 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable


On 2021-Mar-22, at 22:51, Kevin Oberman  wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 8:19 AM Adrian Chadd  wrote:
>> On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 at 14:58, Kevin Oberman  wrote:
>> 
>> > >
>> > > It appears that the messages are associated with reading
>> > > the disk(s), not directly with writing them, where the
>> > > reads take more than "hz * 20" time units to complete.
>> > > (I'm looking at main (14) code.) What might contribute
>> > > to the time taken for the pending read(s)?
>> > >
>> > The reference to hz * 20 woke up a few sleeping memory cells. I forgot that
>> > I cleaned up my loader.conf. It was largely a copy of the one on my
>> > decade-old T520. I commented out "kern.hz=100". I don't recall the details,
>> > but I think it was actually from an even older system, my T42 from before I
>> > retired.
>> >
>> > In any case, restoring this setting has greatly improved the situation. I
>> > now have really bad disk I/O performance on large disk to disk activity
>> > (untarring the firefox distro) instead of terrible performance and the
>> > system freezes have vanished, though I do see pauses in response to clicks
>> > or text entry, but the display remains active and the pauses are short... 1
>> > to 15 seconds, I'd guess. No, I have no idea what this indicates.
>> 
>> ... which drive controller is this? Is it just a laptop ATA disk?
>> 
>> > I'm still not seeing the performance I was seeing back in February when 40
>> > MB/s for extended intervals was common and I once untarred firefox.tar.gz2
>> > in under a minute and performance seldom dropped below 1.4 MB/s.
>> 
>> Did you find a resolution?  I wonder if setting kern.hz is kicking
>> some process(es) to get some time more frequently due to bugs
>> elsewhere in the system (interrupts, IPI handling, wake-ups, etc)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -adrian

> No resolution. This is a Lenovo L15 ThinkPad with a 2TB ATAPI drive.

I've not found documentation indicating the "which drive
controller" answer. That may have to be answered from boot
messages or boot -v messages or other such on FreeBSD.
(I've no access to such a machine.)

You might want to put a copy of such a log someplace that
folks could look at it. There may be commands that some
folks would like to see the output of. (I'm not all that
likely to be one that could put such to use but other
folks might be able to.)

Intel® Celeron®? 10th Generation Intel CoreTM i3? i5? i7?

> The current drive is a Seagate.  All testing has been done since I got it 
> back from Lenovo in late January. I can read or write the drive at reasonable 
> rates that exceed 50 MB/s. Extracting a tar distribution file is painful. I 
> have had firefox extracts take over a half hour. Worse, if I do other 
> operations while the extract is taking place, I often see a 30 second (and, 
> occasionally 60 second) display freezes

I thought that you had reported that use of kern.hz=100
had lead to "the system freezes have vanished" and "pauses
are short... 1 to 15 seconds". Did more testing show that
to not be always the case?

> as well as log reports that of "swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer:"

Unfortunately, I do not know how to investigate what is leading to
those message being generated. Figuring that out would seem to be
important but I do not know what to monitor to at least potentially
eliminate some possibilities.

One possible thing to look at is something like "gstat -spod"
output spanning the time of the untar. It would at least
indicate if a large queue backlog was accumulating on the
device. And the ms/r and ms/w columns would give a clue if
commands are sitting in the queues for long periods. (The
"d" may be a waste: no BIO_DELETEs possible? Also, the r/s
vs. ms/r are not rescaled reciprocals but distinct
measurements. Similarly for: the w/s vs. ms/w.)

Given the "indefinite wait buffer" messages, I expect
the ms/r and/or ms/w figures to be large at least some
of the time. Knowing how large may be of use to someone.
But I can not eliminate anything with such information.

>  This is a bit odd as I have 20G of RAM and am pretty close to no swap space 
> activity, but, of course, paging does occur. 

With 20 GiBytes of RAM, what is going on at the time that
leads to paging activity? I'm thinking of just untarring
the firefox file, not building firefox or such. Can you
test such an untar in a context that is not otherwise
paging (nor swapping)? If yes, is the behavior different
in any readily noticeable way?

> This system is CometLake and graphics are not supported on 12. I am no

qlnxe driver not in 13.0 arm64

2021-03-28 Thread Daniel Morante via freebsd-stable
I installed 13.0-RC3 ARM64 from the DVD ISO image 
(FreeBSD-13.0-BETA4-arm64-aarch64-dvd1.iso 
<http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ISO-IMAGES/13.0/FreeBSD-13.0-BETA4-arm64-aarch64-dvd1.iso>). 
There is no "if_qlnxe" kernel model present on the install media, or on 
the system after installing.


Next I try to build a custom kernel. I add "device qlnxe" to the 
configuration file as instructed in 
https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=qlnxe&manpath=FreeBSD+13.0-current. 



Running "make buildkernel KERNCONF=THUNDERX2" results in:

config: Error: device "qlnxe" is unknown

Is this module not available for ARM64 architecture?

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Re: possibly silly question regarding freebsd-update

2021-03-30 Thread Guido Falsi via freebsd-stable

On 30/03/21 15:35, tech-lists wrote:

Hi,

Recently there was
https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-security/2021-March/010380.html
about openssl. Upgraded to 12.2-p5 with freebsd-update and rebooted.

What I'm unsure about is the openssl version.
Up-to-date 12.1-p5 instances report OpenSSL 1.1.1h-freebsd  22 Sep 2020

Up-to-date stable/13-n245043-7590d7800c4 reports OpenSSL 1.1.1k-freebsd
25 Mar 2021

shouldn't the 12.2-p5 be reporting openssl 1.1.1k-freebsd as well?



No, as you can see in the commit in the official git [1] while for 
current and stable the new upstream version of openssl was imported for 
the release the fix was applied without importing the new release and 
without changing the reported version of the library.


So with 12.2p5 you do get the fix but don't get a new version of the 
library.



[1] 
https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?h=releng/12.2&id=af61348d61f51a88b438d41c3c91b56b2b65ed9b



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Re: possibly silly question regarding freebsd-update

2021-03-30 Thread Guido Falsi via freebsd-stable

On 30/03/21 17:38, tech-lists wrote:
On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 05:22:30PM +0200, Guido Falsi via freebsd-stable 
wrote:


No, as you can see in the commit in the official git [1] while for
current and stable the new upstream version of openssl was imported for
the release the fix was applied without importing the new release and
without changing the reported version of the library.

So with 12.2p5 you do get the fix but don't get a new version of the
library.


[1]
https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?h=releng/12.2&id=af61348d61f51a88b438d41c3c91b56b2b65ed9b 



On this url, near the top, there's this:

"Fix multiple OpenSSL vulnerabilities. Add UPDATING and bump
version." next to that, we have "releng/12.2".

So, I'm expecting the version information pertaining to opensslto be 
bumped. Is this expectation unreasonable? I'm not a developer.




The "bumping verion" part refers to bumping the FreeBSD version, that's 
the p4 -> p5 part of the patch, last hunk referring to file 
sys/conf/newvers.sh


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Re: qlnxe driver not in 13.0 arm64

2021-03-30 Thread Daniel Morante via freebsd-stable
To test it with a custom kernel, would I only need to add these lines 
(https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/tree/sys/conf/files.amd64#n279-306)?


|dev/qlnx/qlnxe/ecore_cxt.c optional qlnxe pci \ compile-with 
"${LINUXKPI_C}" dev/qlnx/qlnxe/ecore_dbg_fw_funcs.c optional qlnxe pci \ 
compile-with "${LINUXKPI_C}" dev/qlnx/qlnxe/ecore_dcbx.c optional qlnxe 
pci \ compile-with "${LINUXKPI_C}" dev/qlnx/qlnxe/ecore_dev.c optional 
qlnxe pci \ compile-with "${LINUXKPI_C}" dev/qlnx/qlnxe/ecore_hw.c 
optional qlnxe pci \ compile-with "${LINUXKPI_C}" 
dev/qlnx/qlnxe/ecore_init_fw_funcs.c optional qlnxe pci \ compile-with 
"${LINUXKPI_C}" dev/qlnx/qlnxe/ecore_init_ops.c optional qlnxe pci \ 
compile-with "${LINUXKPI_C}" dev/qlnx/qlnxe/ecore_int.c optional qlnxe 
pci \ compile-with "${LINUXKPI_C}" dev/qlnx/qlnxe/ecore_l2.c optional 
qlnxe pci \ compile-with "${LINUXKPI_C}" dev/qlnx/qlnxe/ecore_mcp.c 
optional qlnxe pci \ compile-with "${LINUXKPI_C}" 
dev/qlnx/qlnxe/ecore_sp_commands.c optional qlnxe pci \ compile-with 
"${LINUXKPI_C}" dev/qlnx/qlnxe/ecore_spq.c optional qlnxe pci \ 
compile-with "${LINUXKPI_C}" dev/qlnx/qlnxe/qlnx_ioctl.c optional qlnxe 
pci \ compile-with "${LINUXKPI_C}" dev/qlnx/qlnxe/qlnx_os.c optional 
qlnxe pci \ compile-with "${LINUXKPI_C}"|



On 3/30/21 3:00 PM, Hans Petter Selasky wrote:

On 3/30/21 8:31 PM, John-Mark Gurney wrote:
Daniel Morante via freebsd-stable wrote this message on Sun, Mar 28, 
2021 at 03:23 -0400:

I installed 13.0-RC3 ARM64 from the DVD ISO image
(FreeBSD-13.0-BETA4-arm64-aarch64-dvd1.iso
<http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ISO-IMAGES/13.0/FreeBSD-13.0-BETA4-arm64-aarch64-dvd1.iso>). 


There is no "if_qlnxe" kernel model present on the install media, or on
the system after installing.

Next I try to build a custom kernel. I add "device qlnxe" to the
configuration file as instructed in
https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=qlnxe&manpath=FreeBSD+13.0-current. 




Running "make buildkernel KERNCONF=THUNDERX2" results in:

config: Error: device "qlnxe" is unknown

Is this module not available for ARM64 architecture?


Correct, this is only available for amd64.

HPS might have some more insight as to why it's amd64 only.

I have cc'd him.

It could be as simple as moving the qlnxe lines from files.amd64 to 
files,

but it does appear that qnlxe depends upon the Linux compat layer, which
may not be complete for arm64..



The LinuxKPI works for ARM64 aswell. Maybe the QLNXE driver is not 
tested for ARM64.


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powerpc64le is missing in: https://www.freebsd.org/platforms/

2021-03-30 Thread Mark Millard via freebsd-stable
When I looked at https://www.freebsd.org/platforms/ I noticed
that "64-bit little-endian PowerPC" powerpc64le is not listed.

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Re: qlnxe driver not in 13.0 arm64

2021-03-30 Thread Daniel Morante via freebsd-stable
I tried to move the lines, but maybe I did something wrong since it 
failed to build.


make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules *** [modules-all] Error code 2 
make[2]: stopped in /usr/obj/usr/src/arm64.aarch64/sys/THUNDERX2 15 errors


The full output is here: 
http://venus.morante.net/downloads/unibia/freebsd/misc/arm64/qlnxe_13.0-RC4-arm64.log



On 3/30/21 2:31 PM, John-Mark Gurney wrote:

Daniel Morante via freebsd-stable wrote this message on Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 
03:23 -0400:

I installed 13.0-RC3 ARM64 from the DVD ISO image
(FreeBSD-13.0-BETA4-arm64-aarch64-dvd1.iso
<http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ISO-IMAGES/13.0/FreeBSD-13.0-BETA4-arm64-aarch64-dvd1.iso>).
There is no "if_qlnxe" kernel model present on the install media, or on
the system after installing.

Next I try to build a custom kernel. I add "device qlnxe" to the
configuration file as instructed in
https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=qlnxe&manpath=FreeBSD+13.0-current.


Running "make buildkernel KERNCONF=THUNDERX2" results in:

config: Error: device "qlnxe" is unknown

Is this module not available for ARM64 architecture?

Correct, this is only available for amd64.

HPS might have some more insight as to why it's amd64 only.

I have cc'd him.

It could be as simple as moving the qlnxe lines from files.amd64 to files,
but it does appear that qnlxe depends upon the Linux compat layer, which
may not be complete for arm64..

#
# GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/arm64
#
# For more information on this file, please read the config(5) manual page,
# and/or the handbook section on Kernel Configuration Files:
#
#
https://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html
#
# The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook
# if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the
# FreeBSD World Wide Web server (https://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the
# latest information.
#
# An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the
# device lines is also present in the ../../conf/NOTES and NOTES files.
# If you are in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first
# in NOTES.
#
# $FreeBSD$

cpu ARM64
ident   GENERIC

makeoptions DEBUG=-g# Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols
makeoptions WITH_CTF=1  # Run ctfconvert(1) for DTrace support

options SCHED_ULE   # ULE scheduler
options NUMA# Non-Uniform Memory Architecture 
support
options PREEMPTION  # Enable kernel thread preemption
options VIMAGE  # Subsystem virtualization, e.g. VNET
options INET# InterNETworking
options INET6   # IPv6 communications protocols
options IPSEC_SUPPORT   # Allow kldload of ipsec and tcpmd5
options ROUTE_MPATH # Multipath routing support
options TCP_OFFLOAD # TCP offload
options TCP_HHOOK   # hhook(9) framework for TCP
options TCP_RFC7413 # TCP Fast Open
options SCTP_SUPPORT# Allow kldload of SCTP
options FFS # Berkeley Fast Filesystem
options SOFTUPDATES # Enable FFS soft updates support
options UFS_ACL # Support for access control lists
options UFS_DIRHASH # Improve performance on big directories
options UFS_GJOURNAL# Enable gjournal-based UFS journaling
options QUOTA   # Enable disk quotas for UFS
options MD_ROOT # MD is a potential root device
options NFSCL   # Network Filesystem Client
options NFSD# Network Filesystem Server
options NFSLOCKD# Network Lock Manager
options NFS_ROOT# NFS usable as /, requires NFSCL
options MSDOSFS # MSDOS Filesystem
options CD9660  # ISO 9660 Filesystem
options PROCFS  # Process filesystem (requires PSEUDOFS)
options PSEUDOFS# Pseudo-filesystem framework
options TMPFS   # Efficient memory filesystem
options GEOM_RAID   # Soft RAID functionality.
options GEOM_LABEL  # Provides labelization
options EFIRT   # EFI Runtime Services support
options COMPAT_FREEBSD32# Compatible with FreeBSD/arm
options COMPAT_FREEBSD11# Compatible with FreeBSD11
options COMPAT_FREEBSD12# Compatible with FreeBSD12
options SCSI_DELAY=5000 # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
options KTRACE  # ktrace(1) support
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Re: Update to the 13.0-RELEASE schedule

2021-03-31 Thread The Doctor via freebsd-stable
On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 03:58:51PM +, Glen Barber wrote:
> A small set of updates that we consider blocking the 13.0 release have
> been brought to our attention.  As such, the 13.0-RELEASE schedule has
> been updated to include a fifth release candidate (RC5).
> 
> The updated schedule is available on the FreeBSD Project website:
> 
> https://www.freebsd.org/releases/13.0R/schedule/
> 
> As usual, we will continue to consider critical bug fixes only for the
> duration of this release cycle.
> 
> Thank you for your cooperation, and for your patience.
> 
> Glen
> On behalf of: re@
> 

I rather that than a buggy realease.

Good show.

I will continue to test on my workstation running
a Supermicro X10sL7-f

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Re: Deprecating base system ftpd?

2021-04-04 Thread Daniel Morante via freebsd-stable

My vote is for no.

Reasoning is simple... at what point does it stop?  By continuously 
moving stuff from base to ports, FreeBSD slowly becomes just a Kernel. 😉


On 4/3/2021 4:39 PM, Ed Maste wrote:

I propose deprecating the ftpd currently included in the base system
before FreeBSD 14, and opened review D26447
(https://reviews.freebsd.org/D26447) to add a notice to the man page.
I had originally planned to try to do this before 13.0, but it dropped
off my list. FTP is not nearly as relevant now as it once was, and it
had a security vulnerability that secteam had to address.

I'm happy to make a port for it if anyone needs it. Comments?
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Re: Deprecating base system ftpd?

2021-04-04 Thread Charles Sprickman via freebsd-stable


> On Apr 4, 2021, at 8:05 PM, Daniel Morante via freebsd-stable 
>  wrote:
> 
> My vote is for no.
> 
> Reasoning is simple... at what point does it stop?  By continuously moving 
> stuff from base to ports, FreeBSD slowly becomes just a Kernel. 😉

That’s a +1 here, both for the “keep it” and for the comment above regarding 
complete OS vs. kernel and a teeny userland.

Ideally, we’d modernize ftpd to support TLS.

The PITA with ports solutions is you immediate run into the issue of which of 
the many ftp daemons is going to fit your needs and not require some 
non-trivial amount of configuration. The stock ftpd ‘just works’ for local user 
accounts and has a simple method for blocking of swaths of users from using it 
if that sort of restriction is needed.

This reminds me of Apple removing the telnet client. Sure, most people don’t 
*need* telnet, but it’s handy to have, both as a simple test tool and as a way 
to get into old crufty network gear that never moved on to ssh.

Charles

> 
> On 4/3/2021 4:39 PM, Ed Maste wrote:
>> I propose deprecating the ftpd currently included in the base system
>> before FreeBSD 14, and opened review D26447
>> (https://reviews.freebsd.org/D26447) to add a notice to the man page.
>> I had originally planned to try to do this before 13.0, but it dropped
>> off my list. FTP is not nearly as relevant now as it once was, and it
>> had a security vulnerability that secteam had to address.
>> 
>> I'm happy to make a port for it if anyone needs it. Comments?
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Re: FreeBSD 13.0-RC5 Now Available

2021-04-05 Thread Robert Blayzor via freebsd-stable

I don't know, ask yourself that, you did the same thing


On 4/4/21 6:21 PM, Glen Barber wrote:

Is it necessary to quote the*entire*  email (including checksums)?

Glen
Sent from my phone.
Please excuse my brevity and/or typos.



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Re: Deprecating base system ftpd?

2021-04-05 Thread Charles Sprickman via freebsd-stable


> On Apr 5, 2021, at 3:01 PM, Patrick M. Hausen  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I absolutely freaked out when Apple removed the telnet and ftp clients
> from Mac OS and I needed to reinstall them via MacPorts.

Yep, and what I think many miss IRT to the stock ftpd is that it’s dumb simple 
and “just works”.

For web hosting stuff I generally use something like Proftpd or vsftpd, and, 
IMHO, that’s when you should have to expend brain power to choose something 
from ports - when your use-case (supporting hosting customers, virtual users, 
etc.) requires a non-trivial ftp implementation.

Also I can count on my left hand the number of web hosting customers I’ve run 
into that actually use scp for sftp or even know what that is. They’re using 
the same ftp client they’ve always used (ws-ftp quite often) and the last thing 
they want to do is learn something new.

> People who manage any larger collection of networking gear *depend*
> on these outdated but simple services. Client and server side alike.

I frequently work with people who have limited budgets, and I don’t think I’m 
alone in that. Ebay is chock full of high-volume sellers turning over old 
networking gear that is amazingly good stuff that’s just outdated. I can grab a 
48 port GigE switch with 10gb/s uplink ports for under $200. The market is 
gigantic, and putting old stuff to use on an internal network with proper 
safeguards is not totally crazy. Customers can have multiple fully-loaded 
spares on-site for less than what a year of SmartNet coverage would cost.

My server platform of choice when I want a “support server” for this old stuff 
has always been FreeBSD. Stock tftpd and ftpd are wonderful, and anyone 
professing that those two tiny daemons are “bloat” just hasn’t used Linux.

> TFTP is not going away, neither is FTP. I'm dead serious. Remote media
> via Supermicro IPMI in 2021? SMB1. Firmware updates for my UPS? FTP.
> Scanner/printer/fax all-in-one thingy? Uploads received fax transmissions
> via FTP. PBX? Uploads usage reports via FTP. This stuff is here to stay.
> In local networks, of course.

Preach! And plenty of VoIP gear too!

There are absolutely real world uses for these simple daemons, and I trust some 
stock FreeBSD daemon like this more than something I might fetch from ports - 
both in terms of knowing it’s had some kind of auditing/maintenance by 
qualified people and that it’s going to have an accurate manpage, sane 
defaults, and remain relatively simple/minimal.

I think as everyone has moved to the cloud and devops and all that they forget 
about sysadmins standing up servers as simple utility boxes that support a 
bunch of other gear.

> But still even on "the Internet", FTP is the most used method for customers
> of static website hosting. You cannot teach these people what an SSH key is.
> Just my experience, but backed by a load of customer interactions over more
> than 20 years …

I think some people mean well, and they imagine that if we just tell people to 
move to some monstrosity like Filezilla the problem is solved, but 
realistically it’s just a good way to lose paying customers.

Charles

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Re: Deprecating base system ftpd?

2021-04-06 Thread Andrea Brancatelli via freebsd-stable
On 2021-04-05 02:05, Daniel Morante via freebsd-stable wrote:

> My vote is for no.
> 
> Reasoning is simple... at what point does it stop?  By continuously moving 
> stuff from base to ports, FreeBSD slowly becomes just a Kernel. 😉

I strongly agree with this consideration.  

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Portsnap no updates since 3/31/2021 ?

2021-04-06 Thread Robert Blayzor via freebsd-stable
I have several servers running 11.4 and 12.2 that do nightly portsnap 
updates and the last time they've seen anything new is 3/31/2021, since 
then, nothing.


This seems highly unusual since seems like there was always SOMETHING 
updated daily now nothing.


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Re: Portsnap no updates since 3/31/2021 ?

2021-04-06 Thread Charles Sprickman via freebsd-stable


> On Apr 6, 2021, at 7:10 AM, Gary Palmer  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Apr 06, 2021 at 06:49:17AM -0400, Robert Blayzor via freebsd-stable 
> wrote:
>> I have several servers running 11.4 and 12.2 that do nightly portsnap
>> updates and the last time they've seen anything new is 3/31/2021, since
>> then, nothing.
>> 
>> This seems highly unusual since seems like there was always SOMETHING
>> updated daily now nothing.
> 
> git transition
> 
> https://wiki.freebsd.org/git <https://wiki.freebsd.org/git>

Is portsnap still going to be supported?

I was noticing my local ports tree (which autoupdates every night with 
portsnap) was looking pretty dated, so I started googling and found talk on the 
forums that portsnap was going away (this was late 2020) and folks were 
suggesting svnlite and fetching updates via svn. Based on that, I just nuked my 
ports tree and grabbed it again via git, which seems to have worked.

What’s odd is that looking at that wiki entry, this port should have been up to 
date if I was using portsnap:

https://www.freshports.org/multimedia/plexmediaserver-plexpass/ 
<https://www.freshports.org/multimedia/plexmediaserver-plexpass/>

But portsnap kept insisting that I was up to date even though I was seeing 
version 1.21.3.4015…

Anyhow, if anyone can confirm portsnap status, I’d love to know what the 
official line is and whether I should expect to see it around for awhile.

Is the git transition impacting freebsd-update at all? etcupdate?

Thanks,

Charles

> 
> Regular service should resume soon
> 
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> 
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Re: Vinum deprecation for FreeBSD 14 - are there any remaining Vinum users?

2021-04-06 Thread Scott Bennett via freebsd-stable
ata.  IOW, it can be helpful in a potentially large
number of situations for some users, especially for data recovery, but
that is a different purpose from that for which the other GEOM RAID
commands were written to serve.  Again, IMO, gstripe(8), gmirror(8),
graid3(8), and graid5(8) from sysutils/graid5 should be improved, not
eliminated.  Anything gvinum(8) is *supposed* to be able to do, but often
cannot do without violating other system functions, can be done well by
these other GEOM commands.
 A special note is needed here regarding gcache(8) and graid3(8).  The
documentation of gcache parameters for sector size for physical devices
and gcache logical devices is very unclear, such that a user must have the
device nodes and space on them available to create test cases and do so,
whereas a properly documented gcache(8) would obviate the need to set up
such experiments.  There is similar lack of clarity in various size
specifications for blocks, sectors, records, etc. in many of the man pages
for native GEOM commands.
 While you are looking into this situation, please also consider
that deprecation and elimination of the veritably ancient ccd and
ccdconfig are long overdue.  Even the man pages state that these device
nodes are *not* robust and data can be easily lost.  The fact that NetBSD
separately maintains some version of ccd and ccdconfig should be
considered irrelevant in deciding to deprecate and/or eliminate the
supporting code from the source tree.
>
>I plan to add a deprecation notice after a short discussion period,
>assuming no reasonable justification is made to retain it. The notice
>would suggest graid and ZFS as alternatives, and would be merged in
>advance of FreeBSD 13.1. Then, gvinum would be removed in advance of
>FreeBSD 14.0.
>
>Please follow up if you have experience or input on vinum in FreeBSD,
>including past use but especially if you are still using it today and
>expect to continue doing so.

 Given the panics and other problems with gvinum(8), I cannot
recommend that anyone use it.  After experimenting with it, I ended up
using ZFS, gmirror(8), graid5(8), and gconcat(8) to meet my needs.
In sum, I recommend maintaining and enhancing to some degree the native
GEOM support and letting unfinished and/or unmaintained support for
gvinum(8), ccd(8) (and ccd(4)), and ccdconfig(8) be abandoned.  Please
reverse the deprecation for sysutils/graid5, which actually works as
specified, and complete its man page.  Please also add a scrub function
to it.  RAID5, whether by hardware or by software, has known limitations,
but for some purposes it is not only adequate, but is a better choice
than ZFS.  GEOM-based RAID support is also much for versatile and
flexible than hardware RAID, so let's keep it available as an option.
At the same time, the poorly supported, obsolete, and incompatible-with-
other-system-components stuff should rightly be eliminated from the source
tree.  The few known bugs with the native GEOM commands can and should be
fixed.


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