DELL PowerEdge 2850 and FreeBSD 5.4

2005-05-31 Thread Danny Cooper
I have installed FreeBSD 5.4 RELEASE and upgraded to -STABLE on a DELL
PE2850.

FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #1: Wed May 25 23:43:12 BST 2005
CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz (3192.22-MHz 686-class CPU)
real memory  = 5100273664 (4864 MB)
avail memory = 4189892608 (3995 MB)
MPTable: 
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs
 cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  6
amr0:  Firmware 516A, BIOS H418, 256MB RAM

I have disabled ACPI HTT and enabled PAE to make the whole system memory
available.

However the problem I have is the system can crash at any moment, and is not
load related. As the crash info below is when the machine was in an 100%
idle state.

# Crash Info ##
login:

kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled


Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
cpuid = 0; apic id = 00
fault virtual address   = 0x24
fault code= supervisor read, page not present
instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc031f64b
stack pointer   = 0x10:0xeab21c64
frame pointer   = 0x10:0xeab21c78
code segment  = base 0x0, limit 0xf, type 0x1b
  = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
processor eflags  = resume, IOPL = 0
current process   = 8 (pagedaemon)
trap number   = 12
panic: page fault
cpuid = 0
boot() called on cpu#0
Uptime: 12h31m11s
Cannot dump. No dump device defined.
Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort
Rebooting...
cpu_reset called on cpu#0
cpu_reset: Stopping other CPUs
spin lock sched lock held by 0xc63f8c00 for > 5 seconds

#

I have tried to install other versions of FreeBSD.

4.11 Release (Doesn't see all available memory even with a kernel patch)
5.4 Release (Crashes at random times, but mainly under load, running squid)


Does anyone have similar problems or have found a work around?


Danny C


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DELL PowerEdge 2850 and FreeBSD 5.4

2005-05-31 Thread Danny Cooper



I have installed FreeBSD 5.4 RELEASE and upgraded to -STABLE on a DELL
PE2850. 


FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #1: Wed May 25 23:43:12 BST 2005
CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz (3192.22-MHz 686-class CPU)
real memory  = 5100273664 (4864 MB)
avail memory = 4189892608 (3995 MB)
MPTable: 
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs
cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  6
amr0:  Firmware 516A, BIOS H418, 256MB RAM 


I have disabled ACPI HTT and enabled PAE to make the whole system memory
available. 


However the problem I have is the system can crash at any moment, and is not
load related. As the crash info below is when the machine was in an 100%
idle state. 


# Crash Info ##
login: 

kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled 



Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
cpuid = 0; apic id = 00
fault virtual address   = 0x24
fault code= supervisor read, page not present
instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc031f64b
stack pointer   = 0x10:0xeab21c64
frame pointer   = 0x10:0xeab21c78
code segment  = base 0x0, limit 0xf, type 0x1b
= DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
processor eflags  = resume, IOPL = 0
current process   = 8 (pagedaemon)
trap number   = 12
panic: page fault
cpuid = 0
boot() called on cpu#0
Uptime: 12h31m11s
Cannot dump. No dump device defined.
Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort
Rebooting...
cpu_reset called on cpu#0
cpu_reset: Stopping other CPUs
spin lock sched lock held by 0xc63f8c00 for > 5 seconds 

# 

I have tried to install other versions of FreeBSD. 


4.11 Release (Doesn't see all available memory even with a kernel patch)
5.4 Release (Crashes at random times, but mainly under load, running squid) 



Does anyone have similar problems or have found a work around? 



Danny C 


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RE: DELL PowerEdge 2850 and FreeBSD 5.4

2005-05-31 Thread Danny Cooper
With the kernel I removed all non-required devices

Firewire, usb all the NIC's except em and removed all RAID and SCSI
controllers to make sure nothing would interfere.

I tried to boot with the AMD64 CD but with no success, the machine just
hangs when it tries to load the CD, still trying to work out a solution to
the problem, but it just seems these DELL 2850 machines are for Windows or
RedHat!!!

DC

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Sent: 31 May 2005 16:15
To: Danny Cooper
Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: DELL PowerEdge 2850 and FreeBSD 5.4

> I have installed FreeBSD 5.4 RELEASE and upgraded to -STABLE on a DELL
> PE2850.
> 
> FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #1: Wed May 25 23:43:12 BST 2005
> CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz (3192.22-MHz 686-class CPU)
> real memory  = 5100273664 (4864 MB)
> avail memory = 4189892608 (3995 MB)
> MPTable: 
> FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs
>  cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
>  cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  6
> amr0:  Firmware 516A, BIOS H418, 256MB RAM
> 
> I have disabled ACPI HTT and enabled PAE to make the whole system memory
> available.
> 
> However the problem I have is the system can crash at any moment, and is
not
> load related. As the crash info below is when the machine was in an 100%
> idle state.

I have the same hardware as well, running on the i386-port. I have
disabled usb with usbd_enable="NO" in /etc/rc.conf. I have no idea
whether this helps but havent't had an issue with the 2850. Except
with a qlogic-hba and the isp-driver (I suspect) *on* amd64, but *not*
on i386.

Claus
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RE: DELL PowerEdge 2850 and FreeBSD 5.4

2005-06-01 Thread Danny Cooper
I have checked on the DELL site for any updates to the BIOS/Firmware and the
2 PE2850's are running the latest versions.

BIOS A02
Dell Backplane Firmware, v.1.00, A00
Dell BMC Firmware, v.1.23, A03
LSI Logic Perc 4e/Di, v.516A, A01

Both machines have the same symptoms or the reboots at random times.

I have now disabled the USB via rc.conf to see if the reboots still occur.
On one machine I shall drop the PAE kernel and see if that increases the
stability

Regards

Danny

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vinny Abello
Sent: 01 June 2005 05:10
To: Danny Cooper
Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject: RE: DELL PowerEdge 2850 and FreeBSD 5.4

What BIOS revision are you running in your 2850? Make sure all your 
firmware is up to date. I had problems with an slightly older Dell 
2650 trying to install FreeBSD until I flashed the latest RAID 
controller firmware. If this doesn't help, try running some 
diagnostics on the hardware. Dell has some pretty extensive 
utilities. I think you can boot a Dell diagnostic CD you download 
from their web site. It's possible you have bad RAM.

At 11:50 AM 5/31/2005, Danny Cooper wrote:
>With the kernel I removed all non-required devices
>
>Firewire, usb all the NIC's except em and removed all RAID and SCSI
>controllers to make sure nothing would interfere.
>
>I tried to boot with the AMD64 CD but with no success, the machine just
>hangs when it tries to load the CD, still trying to work out a solution to
>the problem, but it just seems these DELL 2850 machines are for Windows or
>RedHat!!!
>
>DC
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Claus Guttesen
>Sent: 31 May 2005 16:15
>To: Danny Cooper
>Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
>Subject: Re: DELL PowerEdge 2850 and FreeBSD 5.4
>
> > I have installed FreeBSD 5.4 RELEASE and upgraded to -STABLE on a DELL
> > PE2850.
> >
> > FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #1: Wed May 25 23:43:12 BST 2005
> > CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz (3192.22-MHz 686-class CPU)
> > real memory  = 5100273664 (4864 MB)
> > avail memory = 4189892608 (3995 MB)
> > MPTable: 
> > FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs
> >  cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
> >  cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  6
> > amr0:  Firmware 516A, BIOS H418, 256MB RAM
> >
> > I have disabled ACPI HTT and enabled PAE to make the whole system memory
> > available.
> >
> > However the problem I have is the system can crash at any moment, and is
>not
> > load related. As the crash info below is when the machine was in an 100%
> > idle state.
>
>I have the same hardware as well, running on the i386-port. I have
>disabled usb with usbd_enable="NO" in /etc/rc.conf. I have no idea
>whether this helps but havent't had an issue with the 2850. Except
>with a qlogic-hba and the isp-driver (I suspect) *on* amd64, but *not*
>on i386.
>
>Claus
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RE: DELL PowerEdge 2850 and FreeBSD 5.4

2005-06-02 Thread Danny Cooper
I have disabled usb via rc.conf

usbd_enable="NO"

But in the new custom kernel I have commented out all of the usb devices and
firewire.

However the machine managed to stay up for 22 hours without any problems.

But I decided to put it underload, through multiple make de/install's of
mysql, apache, php, net-snmp to get the load of the machine high but after 1
hour of load, the machine crashed once again.

Now I have formatted one of the 2850's and put FreeBSD 5.4R (amd64)

I still have disabled usb and nonessential parts of the kernel and placed
the machine under heavy load, so far so good.

DC


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barnett
Sent: 02 June 2005 17:52
To: Gary Schrock
Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: DELL PowerEdge 2850 and FreeBSD 5.4

Gary,

I'm fighting the same battle on two new 2850's and two 1850's; "Interrupt
storm detected on "irq18:uhci2"; throttling interrupt source".

These machines have 2GB of ram and I using the i386 5.4Rel. version.  
This happens
right after the reboot at the end of an install from CD.  I've chosen to 
install "all",
and bring up the ethernet interface.  When I get the message, the 
machine is unresponsive
to keyboard input or pings; basically frozen.  I also tried 5.3 Rel. 
with the same results.

 From searching the lists I concluded disabling USB might be worth 
trying, so I did that
in the BIOS.  I'm still getting the same message and freeze.

How are you disabling USB?  It seems that has worked for you.

One tidbit, they have the DRAC 4/I remote access controller cards in 
them, but I have no
reason to believe they're involved at this point.  Oh, and firmware is 
current throughout.

Thanks for any hints.

Dave Barnett


Gary Schrock wrote:

> At 05:05 AM 6/1/2005, you wrote:
>
>> I have checked on the DELL site for any updates to the BIOS/Firmware 
>> and the
>> 2 PE2850's are running the latest versions.
>>
>> BIOS A02
>> Dell Backplane Firmware, v.1.00, A00
>> Dell BMC Firmware, v.1.23, A03
>> LSI Logic Perc 4e/Di, v.516A, A01
>>
>> Both machines have the same symptoms or the reboots at random times.
>>
>> I have now disabled the USB via rc.conf to see if the reboots still 
>> occur.
>> On one machine I shall drop the PAE kernel and see if that increases the
>> stability
>
>
> We've been running a 2850 with dual processors for a while now, 
> although we're only running 2G of ram.  I'm also running the i386 
> verson of freebsd instead of amd64 (since I couldn't decide whether 
> I'd really gain anything by running that version, especially with my 
> low ram amount).  We did initially have a problem with our add-on 
> perc4 controller, but that was obviously a problem with that 
> controller, but after that was resolved, the only issue I've had with 
> it is the usb interrupt storms.  Since we don't use usb on that 
> system, I've just completely disabled it.  After that, it's run 
> flawlessly for about 6 months now.
>
>> Regards
>>
>> Danny
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vinny Abello
>> Sent: 01 June 2005 05:10
>> To: Danny Cooper
>> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
>> Subject: RE: DELL PowerEdge 2850 and FreeBSD 5.4
>>
>> What BIOS revision are you running in your 2850? Make sure all your
>> firmware is up to date. I had problems with an slightly older Dell
>> 2650 trying to install FreeBSD until I flashed the latest RAID
>> controller firmware. If this doesn't help, try running some
>> diagnostics on the hardware. Dell has some pretty extensive
>> utilities. I think you can boot a Dell diagnostic CD you download
>> from their web site. It's possible you have bad RAM.
>>
>> At 11:50 AM 5/31/2005, Danny Cooper wrote:
>> >With the kernel I removed all non-required devices
>> >
>> >Firewire, usb all the NIC's except em and removed all RAID and SCSI
>> >controllers to make sure nothing would interfere.
>> >
>> >I tried to boot with the AMD64 CD but with no success, the machine just
>> >hangs when it tries to load the CD, still trying to work out a 
>> solution to
>> >the problem, but it just seems these DELL 2850 machines are for 
>> Windows or
>> >RedHat!!!
>> >
>> >DC
>> >
>> >-Original Message-
>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Claus Guttesen
>> >Sent: 31 May 2005 16:15
>> >To: Danny Cooper
>> >

RE: repeatable crash with 5.4-RELEASE and PAE

2005-06-02 Thread Danny Cooper
 VIA VT612x gigabit Ethernet
#device vr  # VIA Rhine, Rhine II
#device wb  # Winbond W89C840F
#device xl  # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'')

# ISA Ethernet NICs.  pccard NICs included.
#device cs  # Crystal Semiconductor CS89x0 NIC
# 'device ed' requires 'device miibus'
# XXX kvtop brokenness, pointer/int warnings
#device ed  # NE[12]000, SMC Ultra, 3c503, DS8390 cards
#device ex  # Intel EtherExpress Pro/10 and Pro/10+
#device ep  # Etherlink III based cards
#device fe  # Fujitsu MB8696x based cards
# XXX kvtop brokenness, pointer/int warnings
#device lnc # NE2100, NE32-VL Lance Ethernet cards
#device sn  # SMC's 9000 series of Ethernet chips
#device xe  # Xircom pccard Ethernet

# Wireless NIC cards
#device wlan# 802.11 support
#device an  # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs.
#device awi # BayStack 660 and others
#device wi  # WaveLAN/Intersil/Symbol 802.11 wireless
NICs.

# Pseudo devices.
device  loop# Network loopback
device  mem # Memory and kernel memory devices
device  io  # I/O device
device  random  # Entropy device
device  ether   # Ethernet support
#device sl  # Kernel SLIP
#device ppp # Kernel PPP
#device tun # Packet tunnel.
device  pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
device  md  # Memory "disks"
#device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling
#device faith   # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation)

# The `bpf' device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.
# Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this!
# Note that 'bpf' is required for DHCP.
device  bpf # Berkeley packet filter

# USB support
#device uhci# UHCI PCI->USB interface
#device ohci# OHCI PCI->USB interface
##deviceehci# EHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 2.0)
#device usb # USB Bus (required)
##deviceudbp# USB Double Bulk Pipe devices
#device ugen# Generic
#device uhid# "Human Interface Devices"
#device ukbd# Keyboard
#device ulpt# Printer
#device umass   # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da
#device ums # Mouse
#device urio# Diamond Rio 500 MP3 player
#device uscanner# Scanners
## USB Ethernet, requires mii
#device aue # ADMtek USB Ethernet
#device axe # ASIX Electronics USB Ethernet
#device cdce# Generic USB over Ethernet
#device cue # CATC USB Ethernet
#device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB Ethernet
#device rue # RealTek RTL8150 USB Ethernet
#
## FireWire support
#device firewire# FireWire bus code
#device sbp # SCSI over FireWire (Requires scbus and da)
#device fwe # Ethernet over FireWire (non-standard!)

options IPFIREWALL  #firewall
options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT#allow everything by default
options IPFILTER#ipfilter support
options IPFILTER_LOG#ipfilter logging

Regards,

Danny Cooper


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brendan White
Sent: 02 June 2005 21:00
To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject: repeatable crash with 5.4-RELEASE and PAE

We're having crash under load problems using freebsd 5.4-release  
(i386) and PAE kernel.

Machine:
Dual Xeon 3.6 Dell Poweredge 2850
8 gigs of ram
16 gigs of swap
amr raid

The machine will reliably crash under load within an hour or so.
"under load" involves large network transfers being processed by cpu  
and memory intensive processes.

i cant get a crash dump (when it starts dumping, it will stop part  
way thru displaying memory increments.)

I have gotten it to spit out a trace from KDB, which i've copied out  
below.
(i had to do it from a screenshot/by hand- i checked it twice, but if  
things dont make sence, there may be a typo)

kernel config included below the trace.
We've tried turning off hyperthreading.  The problem persists.
We've tried turning off PAE (which brings us from 8 gigs to 3).  The  
problem goes away.
This is obviously not the optimal solution.


---
kdb_enter(c05a1e33) at kdb_enter+0x2b
panic(c05a0a51,fffe,c05a0a3b,cb65ed80,ff

RE: SSHD and FTPD, can't connect

2005-06-06 Thread Danny Cooper
Have you opened up the /etc/hosts.allow file to allow connections for the
home lan?

e.g.

ALL : localhost : allow
ALL : 127.0.0.1 : allow
ALL : 192.68.0.0/255.255.255.255 : allow
sshd : all : allow
ftpd : all : allow
ALL : ALL : deny

Danny C


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Sent: 06 June 2005 19:20
To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject: RE: SSHD and FTPD, can't connect

Hello,
you may remember the problems that my friends were having with
ssh/ftp timeouts.  Well now I have the same issue with my FBSD 4.10
install.  I can ping the box and use the Apache and telnet daemons, but
not the SSHD or FTPD.  I tried to upgrade the SSHD to no avail and I CAN
connect to the daemons from the loopback address, but not across my home
LAN.  Any suggestions?

 Matt 
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RE: SSHD and FTPD, can't connect

2005-06-06 Thread Danny Cooper
Do you see any traffic when you run 'tcpdump port 22' on the server?
Or if you just try telnet server.ip 22 do you get anything back?

I know I am stating basic's but its caught me out a few times before where a
firewall has caught the packets.

DC

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From: Matt Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 06 June 2005 22:02
To: 'Danny Cooper'
Subject: RE: SSHD and FTPD, can't connect

Yep, timeout before auth.

  Matt

-----Original Message-
From: Danny Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 4:43 PM
To: 'Matt Smith'
Subject: RE: SSHD and FTPD, can't connect

Have you checked 

/var/log/auth.log for any error messages with sshd

-Original Message-
From: Matt Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 06 June 2005 20:56
To: 'Danny Cooper'; freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject: RE: SSHD and FTPD, can't connect

Did that, to no avail.  It was fine then it started doing this.  Any
other suggestions?

      Matt

-Original Message-
From: Danny Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 3:28 PM
To: 'Matt Smith'; freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject: RE: SSHD and FTPD, can't connect

Have you opened up the /etc/hosts.allow file to allow connections for
the
home lan?

e.g.

ALL : localhost : allow
ALL : 127.0.0.1 : allow
ALL : 192.68.0.0/255.255.255.255 : allow
sshd : all : allow
ftpd : all : allow
ALL : ALL : deny

Danny C


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Smith
Sent: 06 June 2005 19:20
To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject: RE: SSHD and FTPD, can't connect

Hello,
you may remember the problems that my friends were having with
ssh/ftp timeouts.  Well now I have the same issue with my FBSD 4.10
install.  I can ping the box and use the Apache and telnet daemons, but
not the SSHD or FTPD.  I tried to upgrade the SSHD to no avail and I CAN
connect to the daemons from the loopback address, but not across my home
LAN.  Any suggestions?

 Matt 
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RE: named coredumping

2005-06-20 Thread Danny Cooper
I am receiving the same problems with FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE (amd64) bind-9.3.1

DELL PE2850
2 x Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz
4 GB RAM

named.log.0:19-Jun-2005 11:46:15.945 *** POKED TIMER ***
named.log.0:19-Jun-2005 18:34:17.314 *** POKED TIMER ***
named.log.0:20-Jun-2005 02:40:46.193 *** POKED TIMER ***

Depending on the load the of the server it can happen every hour.

In some case's named starts to Max out one CPU and refused to resolve DNS
until named is killed and restarted.

Danny Cooper

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Barton
Sent: 20 June 2005 16:09
To: Gleb Smirnoff
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: named coredumping

Gleb Smirnoff wrote:
>   Dear colleagues,
> 
> today I've got problem with named exiting on signal 11. Yes, I've searched
> archives and found that POKED TIMER is a problem in our threads.
> 
> Has anyone faced this problem and workarounded it? Or may be even fixed
it?
> Is there anywhere detailed description of the problem?
> 
> Jun 19 06:00:58  ns named[44534]: *** POKED TIMER ***
> Jun 19 06:28:40  ns named[44534]: *** POKED TIMER ***
> Jun 19 06:49:54  ns named[44534]: *** POKED TIMER ***
> Jun 19 07:18:19  ns named[44534]: *** POKED TIMER ***
> Jun 19 07:18:38  ns kernel: pid 44534 (named), uid 53: exited
on signal 11
> 

You haven't stated what version of FreeBSD or named you are using. If you're

using FreeBSD old enough so that your named is 9.3.0, then you should 
upgrade to 5-stable, which will as a by product upgrade named to 9.3.1 which

has a lot of the threading issues solved.

hth,

Doug

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RE: PHP4 and pear Ports

2005-07-04 Thread Danny Cooper
To install mod_php4 and php4-cli do

cd /usr/ports/php4
make && make install

For any extensions that you require do

cd /usr/ports/lang/php4-extentsions
make

if the menu does not appear do

cd /usr/ports/lang/php4-extentsions
make config

Regards

Danny Cooper

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jaimie Garner
Sent: 04 July 2005 19:02
To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject: PHP4 and pear Ports

How do I install php4 with pear and GD and some other options using ports?

I no longer get the config menu that used to apear. I tried make config and
it 
gave me a small menu but not the full menu I am used to seeing.

I installed mod_php4 via ports and then tried to install Pear but I get an 
error about conflicting version of mod php4 and php4-cli. Pear requires 
php4_cli but can't install it.

I tried deinstall all mod_php4 and did an install of lang/php4 now pear
works 
but apache no longer uses php. And now cant install mod_php4. 

I know I am doing something wrong. could some one point me in the right 
direction? I have hunted on the net and haven't found much.
Thanks
-- 
Jaimie Garner
Onsite PCS inc.
323 SE RIverside AV
Grants Pass, OR 97526
541.471.1343
866.471.1343
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www.onistepcs.net
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