Hi Brendan,

I have 2 

Dual Xeon 3.6 Dell Poweredge 2850
4 gigs of ram
8 gigs of swap
amr raid

They can crash at any moment not just underload, I persisted for 10 days to
get a stable system with and without PAE but to no avail with 4GB of RAM.

I did try and turn off ACPI, HTT which made the machine more stable but only
for 6-24 hours.

I have formatted the one machine with FreeBSD 5.4R (amd64) and have keep the
CPU 100% with a load average of 4.00 for 2 hours and no crash.

I haven't started to mess around with memory settings yet to increase the
performance of the machine, as want to run it underload for a day then start
to tune the box.

I also turned USB in the kernel and rc.conf

usbd_enable="NO"

Here is my amd64 kernel

/usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/MK-TESTBOX-1-SMP
# SMP -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/amd64 SMP
#        Use this for multi-processor machines
#
# $FreeBSD: src/sys/amd64/conf/SMP,v 1.1.2.1 2004/10/23 19:58:27 kensmith
Exp $
include MK-TESTBOX-1
options SMP

/usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/MK-TESTBOX-1
# $FreeBSD: src/sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC,v 1.421.2.11.2.1 2005/04/09 17:28:37
kensmith Exp $

machine         amd64
cpu             HAMMER
ident           MK-TESTBOX-1

# To statically compile in device wiring instead of /boot/device.hints
#hints          "GENERIC.hints"         # Default places to look for
devices.

options         SCHED_4BSD              # 4BSD scheduler
options         INET                    # InterNETworking
#options        INET6                   # IPv6 communications protocols
options         FFS                     # Berkeley Fast Filesystem
options         SOFTUPDATES             # Enable FFS soft updates support
options         UFS_ACL                 # Support for access control lists
options         UFS_DIRHASH             # Improve performance on big
directories
options         MD_ROOT                 # MD is a potential root device
#options        NFSCLIENT               # Network Filesystem Client
#options        NFSSERVER               # Network Filesystem Server
#options        NFS_ROOT                # NFS usable as /, requires
NFSCLIENT
#options        NTFS                    # NT File System
#options        MSDOSFS                 # MSDOS Filesystem
options         CD9660                  # ISO 9660 Filesystem
options         PROCFS                  # Process filesystem (requires
PSEUDOFS)
options         PSEUDOFS                # Pseudo-filesystem framework
options         GEOM_GPT                # GUID Partition Tables.
options         COMPAT_43               # Needed by COMPAT_LINUX32
options         COMPAT_IA32             # Compatible with i386 binaries
options         COMPAT_FREEBSD4         # Compatible with FreeBSD4
options         COMPAT_LINUX32          # Compatible with i386 linux
binaries 
options         SCSI_DELAY=15000        # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
options         KTRACE                  # ktrace(1) support
options         SYSVSHM                 # SYSV-style shared memory
options         SYSVMSG                 # SYSV-style message queues
options         SYSVSEM                 # SYSV-style semaphores
options         _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING # POSIX P1003_1B real-time
extensions
options         KBD_INSTALL_CDEV        # install a CDEV entry in /dev
options         AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT    # Print register bitfields in debug
                                        # output.  Adds ~128k to driver.
options         AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT    # Print register bitfields in debug
                                        # output.  Adds ~215k to driver.
options         ADAPTIVE_GIANT          # Giant mutex is adaptive.

# Workarounds for some known-to-be-broken chipsets (nVidia nForce3-Pro150)
device          atpic           # 8259A compatability

# Enabling NO_MIXED_MODE gives a performance improvement on some
motherboards
# but does not work with some boards (mostly nVidia chipset based).
#options        NO_MIXED_MODE   # Don't penalize working chipsets

# Linux 32-bit ABI support
options         LINPROCFS               # Cannot be a module yet.

# Bus support.  Do not remove isa, even if you have no isa slots
device          acpi
device          isa
device          pci

# Floppy drives
device          fdc

# ATA and ATAPI devices
device          ata
device          atadisk         # ATA disk drives
device          ataraid         # ATA RAID drives
device          atapicd         # ATAPI CDROM drives
device          atapifd         # ATAPI floppy drives
device          atapist         # ATAPI tape drives
options         ATA_STATIC_ID   # Static device numbering

# SCSI Controllers
#device         ahc             # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices
#device         ahd             # AHA39320/29320 and onboard AIC79xx devices
#device         amd             # AMD 53C974 (Tekram DC-390(T))
#device         isp             # Qlogic family
##device        ispfw           # Firmware for QLogic HBAs- normally a
module
#device         mpt             # LSI-Logic MPT-Fusion
##device                ncr             # NCR/Symbios Logic
#device         sym             # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets + those
of `ncr')
#device         trm             # Tekram DC395U/UW/F DC315U adapters

#device         adv             # Advansys SCSI adapters
#device         adw             # Advansys wide SCSI adapters
#device         aic             # Adaptec 15[012]x SCSI adapters,
AIC-6[23]60.
#device         bt              # Buslogic/Mylex MultiMaster SCSI adapters


# SCSI peripherals
device          scbus           # SCSI bus (required for SCSI)
device          ch              # SCSI media changers
device          da              # Direct Access (disks)
device          sa              # Sequential Access (tape etc)
device          cd              # CD
device          pass            # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)
device          ses             # SCSI Environmental Services (and SAF-TE)

# RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem
device          amr             # AMI MegaRAID
#device         arcmsr          # Areca SATA II RAID
#device         ciss            # Compaq Smart RAID 5*
#device         dpt             # DPT Smartcache III, IV - See NOTES for
options
#device         iir             # Intel Integrated RAID
#device         ips             # IBM (Adaptec) ServeRAID
#device         mly             # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID
#device         twa             # 3ware 9000 series PATA/SATA RAID

# RAID controllers
#device         aac             # Adaptec FSA RAID
#device         aacp            # SCSI passthrough for aac (requires CAM)
#device         ida             # Compaq Smart RAID
#device         mlx             # Mylex DAC960 family
##XXX pointer/int warnings
##device                pst             # Promise Supertrak SX6000
#device         twe             # 3ware ATA RAID

# atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
device          atkbdc          # AT keyboard controller
device          atkbd           # AT keyboard
device          psm             # PS/2 mouse

device          vga             # VGA video card driver

device          splash          # Splash screen and screen saver support

# syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console
device          sc

# PCCARD (PCMCIA) support
# PCMCIA and cardbus bridge support
#device         cbb             # cardbus (yenta) bridge
#device         pccard          # PC Card (16-bit) bus
#device         cardbus         # CardBus (32-bit) bus

# Serial (COM) ports
device          sio             # 8250, 16[45]50 based serial ports

# Parallel port
#device         ppc
#device         ppbus           # Parallel port bus (required)
#device         lpt             # Printer
#device         plip            # TCP/IP over parallel
#device         ppi             # Parallel port interface device
#device         vpo             # Requires scbus and da

# If you've got a "dumb" serial or parallel PCI card that is
# supported by the puc(4) glue driver, uncomment the following
# line to enable it (connects to the sio and/or ppc drivers):
#device         puc

# PCI Ethernet NICs.
#device         de              # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'')
device          em              # Intel PRO/1000 adapter Gigabit Ethernet
Card
#device         ixgb            # Intel PRO/10GbE Ethernet Card
#device         txp             # 3Com 3cR990 (``Typhoon'')
#device         vx              # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'')

# PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code.
# NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs!
#device         miibus          # MII bus support
#device         bfe             # Broadcom BCM440x 10/100 Ethernet
#device         bge             # Broadcom BCM570xx Gigabit Ethernet
#device         dc              # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes
#device         fxp             # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558)
#device         lge             # Level 1 LXT1001 gigabit Ethernet
#device         nge             # NatSemi DP83820 gigabit Ethernet
#device         pcn             # AMD Am79C97x PCI 10/100 (precedence over
'lnc')
#device         re              # RealTek 8139C+/8169/8169S/8110S
#device         rl              # RealTek 8129/8139
#device         sf              # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'')
#device         sis             # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS
7016
#device         sk              # SysKonnect SK-984x & SK-982x gigabit
Ethernet
#device         ste             # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX)
#device         ti              # Alteon Networks Tigon I/II gigabit
Ethernet
#device         tl              # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN
#device         tx              # SMC EtherPower II (83c170 ``EPIC'')
#device         vge             # VIA VT612x gigabit Ethernet
#device         vr              # VIA Rhine, Rhine II
#device         wb              # Winbond W89C840F
#device         xl              # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'')

# ISA Ethernet NICs.  pccard NICs included.
#device         cs              # Crystal Semiconductor CS89x0 NIC
# 'device ed' requires 'device miibus'
# XXX kvtop brokenness, pointer/int warnings
#device         ed              # NE[12]000, SMC Ultra, 3c503, DS8390 cards
#device         ex              # Intel EtherExpress Pro/10 and Pro/10+
#device         ep              # Etherlink III based cards
#device         fe              # Fujitsu MB8696x based cards
# XXX kvtop brokenness, pointer/int warnings
#device         lnc             # NE2100, NE32-VL Lance Ethernet cards
#device         sn              # SMC's 9000 series of Ethernet chips
#device         xe              # Xircom pccard Ethernet

# Wireless NIC cards
#device         wlan            # 802.11 support
#device         an              # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs.
#device         awi             # BayStack 660 and others
#device         wi              # WaveLAN/Intersil/Symbol 802.11 wireless
NICs.

# Pseudo devices.
device          loop            # Network loopback
device          mem             # Memory and kernel memory devices
device          io              # I/O device
device          random          # Entropy device
device          ether           # Ethernet support
#device         sl              # Kernel SLIP
#device         ppp             # Kernel PPP
#device         tun             # Packet tunnel.
device          pty             # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
device          md              # Memory "disks"
#device         gif             # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling
#device         faith           # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation)

# The `bpf' device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.
# Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this!
# Note that 'bpf' is required for DHCP.
device          bpf             # Berkeley packet filter

# USB support
#device         uhci            # UHCI PCI->USB interface
#device         ohci            # OHCI PCI->USB interface
##device                ehci            # EHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 2.0)
#device         usb             # USB Bus (required)
##device                udbp            # USB Double Bulk Pipe devices
#device         ugen            # Generic
#device         uhid            # "Human Interface Devices"
#device         ukbd            # Keyboard
#device         ulpt            # Printer
#device         umass           # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da
#device         ums             # Mouse
#device         urio            # Diamond Rio 500 MP3 player
#device         uscanner        # Scanners
## USB Ethernet, requires mii
#device         aue             # ADMtek USB Ethernet
#device         axe             # ASIX Electronics USB Ethernet
#device         cdce            # Generic USB over Ethernet
#device         cue             # CATC USB Ethernet
#device         kue             # Kawasaki LSI USB Ethernet
#device         rue             # RealTek RTL8150 USB Ethernet
#
## FireWire support
#device         firewire        # FireWire bus code
#device         sbp             # SCSI over FireWire (Requires scbus and da)
#device         fwe             # Ethernet over FireWire (non-standard!)

options         IPFIREWALL              #firewall
options         IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT    #allow everything by default
options         IPFILTER                #ipfilter support
options         IPFILTER_LOG            #ipfilter logging

Regards,

Danny Cooper


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brendan White
Sent: 02 June 2005 21:00
To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject: repeatable crash with 5.4-RELEASE and PAE

We're having crash under load problems using freebsd 5.4-release  
(i386) and PAE kernel.

Machine:
Dual Xeon 3.6 Dell Poweredge 2850
8 gigs of ram
16 gigs of swap
amr raid

The machine will reliably crash under load within an hour or so.
"under load" involves large network transfers being processed by cpu  
and memory intensive processes.

i cant get a crash dump (when it starts dumping, it will stop part  
way thru displaying memory increments.)

I have gotten it to spit out a trace from KDB, which i've copied out  
below.
(i had to do it from a screenshot/by hand- i checked it twice, but if  
things dont make sence, there may be a typo)

kernel config included below the trace.
We've tried turning off hyperthreading.  The problem persists.
We've tried turning off PAE (which brings us from 8 gigs to 3).  The  
problem goes away.
This is obviously not the optimal solution.


---
kdb_enter(c05a1e33) at kdb_enter+0x2b
panic(c05a0a51,fffffffe,c05a0a3b,cb65ed80,fffffffe) at panic+0x127
lockmgr(cbadb7e4,6,cbadb738,0,f1b93a0c) at lockmgr+0x421
vop_stdunlock(f1b93a3c,f1b93a18,c038320f,f1b93a3c,f1b93a59) at  
vop_stdunlock+0x1f
vop_defaultop(f1b93a3c,f1b93a58,c038379c,f1b93a3c,1000) at  
vop_defaultop+0x13
spec_vnoperate(f1b93a3c,1000,7f010000,cba4e100,f1b93aa4) at  
spec_vnoperate+0x13
spec_write(f1b93a84,f1b93ad0,c04fce99,f1b93a84,cb65ed80) at spec_write 
+0x64
spec_vnoperate(f1b93a84) at spec_vnoperate+0x13
vnode_pager_generic_putpages(cbadb738,f1b93be0,1000,0,f1b93b60) at  
vnode_pager_generic_putpages+0x221
vop_stdputpages 
(f1b93b18,f1b93b18,f1b93b04,c038320f,f1b93b18,f1b93b44) at  
vop_stdputpages+0x1a
vop_defaultop(f1b93b18,f1b93b44,c04fcc36,f1b93b18,1000) at  
vop_defaultop+0x13
spec_vnoperate(f1b93b18) at spec_vnoperate+0x13
vnode_pager_putpages(cbb53ad4,f1b93be0,1,0,f1b93b60) at  
vnode_pager_putpages+0xba
vm_pageout_flush(f1b93be0,1,0,cbd7a600,f1b93bb8) at vm_pageout_flush 
+0xcb
vm_pageout_clean(c4254e4c) at vm_pageout_clean+0x2a1
vm_pageout_scan(0) at vm_pageout_scan+0x706
vm_pageout(0,f1b93d38) at vm_pageout+0x312
fork_exit(c04f5e1c,0,f1b93d38) at fork_exit+0x75
fork_trampoline() at fork_trampoline+0x8
--- trap 0x1, eip=0, esp = 0xf1b93d6c, ebp = 0 ---



kernel config:

include GENERIC
ident           PAE-GENERIC
options         KDB_TRACE
options         KDB
options         DDB
makeoptions     DEBUG=-g
options         SMP
options         COMPAT_LINUX
device          acpi
makeoptions     NO_MODULES=yes
nodevice        ahb
nodevice        amd
nodevice        sym
nodevice        trm
nodevice        adv
nodevice        adw
nodevice        aha
nodevice        aic
nodevice        bt
nodevice        ncv
nodevice        nsp
nodevice        stg
nodevice        asr
nodevice        dpt
nodevice        iir
nodevice        mly
nodevice        ida
nodevice        mlx
nodevice        pst
nodevice        agp
nodevice        de
nodevice        txp
nodevice        vx
nodevice        dc
nodevice        pcn
nodevice        rl
nodevice        sf
nodevice        sis
nodevice        ste
nodevice        tl
nodevice        tx
nodevice        vr
nodevice        wb
nodevice        cs
nodevice        ed
nodevice        ex
nodevice        ep
nodevice        fe
nodevice        ie
nodevice        lnc
nodevice        sn
nodevice        xe
nodevice        wlan
nodevice        an
nodevice        awi
nodevice        wi
nodevice        uhci
nodevice        ohci
nodevice        ehci
nodevice        usb
nodevice        ugen
nodevice        uhid
nodevice        ukbd
nodevice        ulpt
nodevice        umass
nodevice        ums
nodevice        urio
nodevice        uscanner
nodevice        aue
nodevice        axe
nodevice        cdce
nodevice        cue
nodevice        kue
nodevice        rue

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I have disabled usb via rc.conf

usbd_enable="NO"

But in the new custom kernel I have commented out all of the usb devices and
firewire.

However the machine managed to stay up for 22 hours without any problems.

But I decided to put it underload, through multiple make de/install's of
mysql, apache, php, net-snmp to get the load of the machine high but after 1
hour of load, the machine crashed once again.

Now I have formatted one of the 2850's and put FreeBSD 5.4R (amd64)

I still have disabled usb and nonessential parts of the kernel and placed
the machine under heavy load, so far so good.

DC


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barnett
Sent: 02 June 2005 17:52
To: Gary Schrock
Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: DELL PowerEdge 2850 and FreeBSD 5.4

Gary,

I'm fighting the same battle on two new 2850's and two 1850's; "Interrupt
storm detected on "irq18:uhci2"; throttling interrupt source".

These machines have 2GB of ram and I using the i386 5.4Rel. version.  
This happens
right after the reboot at the end of an install from CD.  I've chosen to 
install "all",
and bring up the ethernet interface.  When I get the message, the 
machine is unresponsive
to keyboard input or pings; basically frozen.  I also tried 5.3 Rel. 
with the same results.

 From searching the lists I concluded disabling USB might be worth 
trying, so I did that
in the BIOS.  I'm still getting the same message and freeze.

How are you disabling USB?  It seems that has worked for you.

One tidbit, they have the DRAC 4/I remote access controller cards in 
them, but I have no
reason to believe they're involved at this point.  Oh, and firmware is 
current throughout.

Thanks for any hints.

Dave Barnett


Gary Schrock wrote:

> At 05:05 AM 6/1/2005, you wrote:
>
>> I have checked on the DELL site for any updates to the BIOS/Firmware 
>> and the
>> 2 PE2850's are running the latest versions.
>>
>> BIOS A02
>> Dell Backplane Firmware, v.1.00, A00
>> Dell BMC Firmware, v.1.23, A03
>> LSI Logic Perc 4e/Di, v.516A, A01
>>
>> Both machines have the same symptoms or the reboots at random times.
>>
>> I have now disabled the USB via rc.conf to see if the reboots still 
>> occur.
>> On one machine I shall drop the PAE kernel and see if that increases the
>> stability
>
>
> We've been running a 2850 with dual processors for a while now, 
> although we're only running 2G of ram.  I'm also running the i386 
> verson of freebsd instead of amd64 (since I couldn't decide whether 
> I'd really gain anything by running that version, especially with my 
> low ram amount).  We did initially have a problem with our add-on 
> perc4 controller, but that was obviously a problem with that 
> controller, but after that was resolved, the only issue I've had with 
> it is the usb interrupt storms.  Since we don't use usb on that 
> system, I've just completely disabled it.  After that, it's run 
> flawlessly for about 6 months now.
>
>> Regards
>>
>> Danny
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vinny Abello
>> Sent: 01 June 2005 05:10
>> To: Danny Cooper
>> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
>> Subject: RE: DELL PowerEdge 2850 and FreeBSD 5.4
>>
>> What BIOS revision are you running in your 2850? Make sure all your
>> firmware is up to date. I had problems with an slightly older Dell
>> 2650 trying to install FreeBSD until I flashed the latest RAID
>> controller firmware. If this doesn't help, try running some
>> diagnostics on the hardware. Dell has some pretty extensive
>> utilities. I think you can boot a Dell diagnostic CD you download
>> from their web site. It's possible you have bad RAM.
>>
>> At 11:50 AM 5/31/2005, Danny Cooper wrote:
>> >With the kernel I removed all non-required devices
>> >
>> >Firewire, usb all the NIC's except em and removed all RAID and SCSI
>> >controllers to make sure nothing would interfere.
>> >
>> >I tried to boot with the AMD64 CD but with no success, the machine just
>> >hangs when it tries to load the CD, still trying to work out a 
>> solution to
>> >the problem, but it just seems these DELL 2850 machines are for 
>> Windows or
>> >RedHat!!!
>> >
>> >DC
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Claus Guttesen
>> >Sent: 31 May 2005 16:15
>> >To: Danny Cooper
>> >Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
>> >Subject: Re: DELL PowerEdge 2850 and FreeBSD 5.4
>> >
>> > > I have installed FreeBSD 5.4 RELEASE and upgraded to -STABLE on a 
>> DELL
>> > > PE2850.
>> > >
>> > > FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #1: Wed May 25 23:43:12 BST 2005
>> > > CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz (3192.22-MHz 686-class CPU)
>> > > real memory  = 5100273664 (4864 MB)
>> > > avail memory = 4189892608 (3995 MB)
>> > > MPTable: <DELL     PE 016D     >
>> > > FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs
>> > >  cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
>> > >  cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  6
>> > > amr0: <LSILogic PERC 4e/Di> Firmware 516A, BIOS H418, 256MB RAM
>> > >
>> > > I have disabled ACPI HTT and enabled PAE to make the whole system 
>> memory
>> > > available.
>> > >
>> > > However the problem I have is the system can crash at any moment, 
>> and is
>> >not
>> > > load related. As the crash info below is when the machine was in 
>> an 100%
>> > > idle state.
>> >
>> >I have the same hardware as well, running on the i386-port. I have
>> >disabled usb with usbd_enable="NO" in /etc/rc.conf. I have no idea
>> >whether this helps but havent't had an issue with the 2850. Except
>> >with a qlogic-hba and the isp-driver (I suspect) *on* amd64, but *not*
>> >on i386.
>> >
>> >Claus
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