Re: Buying new sound card

2007-10-23 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
Pieter de Goeje <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Sunday 21 October 2007, Roberth Sjonøy wrote:
>> Anyone who can confirm that a Creative SB Audigy SE PCI works with FreeBSD?
> It doesn't work, unless you install the oss driver from
> http://www.4front-tech.com

That is not too hard ;-)

> Note that in my opinion the native FreeBSD drivers are a lot better.

What drivers? The ones that don't exist for the card?

In my opinion the SB Audigy is a very common card that should have
been supported long ago. On the other hand, the OSS drivers are very good.

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Re: 100 MHz pentium: can that play avi-file movies?

2003-12-01 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 12:47:05 +0900
Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 100 MHz pentium with up-to-date FreeBSD-stable;
> would that allow me to play avi-file movies with mplayer
> or equivalent media player?
> 
> Videocard is a Riva TNT2 with 16 Mb.

If you want to *enjoy* the movie in a good resolution and all, the
answer probably will be "NO, you can't do that"

You're videocard is not "good enough" for a fast X driver and your
processor needs an upgrade to at least a P3-300 or up.

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Re: Why userland , basesystem and Kernel are together?!

2003-12-13 Thread dick hoogendijk
On 11 Dec C. Ulrich wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 14:08, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> > > 
> > > I don't wish to get into a shouting match, but I don't think I
> > > completely agree with some of the things you say here.
> > 
> > OK.  Well, just toddle on over to the advocacy list where this
> > can more appropriately be hashed out.
> > 
> Jerry,
> 
> Actually, I didn't intend to post it to the list, I meant to send it
> privately. After I had hit the Send button and realized what I had
> done, I sent a follow up message apologizing for the off-topic nature
> of the previous message. For whatever reason, *that* message didn't
> make it to the list...

FWIW, I did not mind reading your message. It was well written, so
unless it would become an "endless (sub) thread" people could be a
little more forgiving, imho.

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codeweavers crossover office

2003-12-21 Thread dick hoogendijk
Does anybody run Codeweavers crossover Office on FreeBSD?
I know it rusnb very well on linux and would like to run it on fbsd too
(if at all possible). If it is possible, can someone explain to me how
to install the package on my fbsd-4.9R?

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Re: codeweavers crossover office

2003-12-23 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 06:48:22 -0500
Dan Pelleg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> dick hoogendijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Does anybody run Codeweavers crossover Office on FreeBSD?
> > I know it rusnb very well on linux and would like to run it on fbsd
> > too(if at all possible). If it is possible, can someone explain to
> > me how to install the package on my fbsd-4.9R?
> >
> 
> You can try and just run it under linux emulation. The URL below has
> notes from several people who ran complicated linux packages, together
> with tips and tricks. Also, I seem to remember this particular package
> being discussed in the past in one of the mailing lists.
> 
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/linuxemu.html

Thanks for your info. I tried the installation and all went very well.
At least so it seemed..
Running the officesetup I got errors like "ELF binary type "0" not
known" I started the program under a /compat/linux/sh shell and still
got this message. I branded the binaries.. no luck. I started them
normally (under fbsd) and nothing happened at all. So, I guess the
package won't run under fbsd.

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Re: restrict FreeBSD users to their home directory

2008-10-26 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:14:50 +0100
Roland Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 08:19:51PM +0800, joeb wrote:
> 
> >> > I don't want them to be able see any system directories or other
> >> > users?
> >> 
> >> User directories are by default both owned by the user and belong
> >> to the user's group. So you can set the umask for every user so
> >> that their files are not accessible to others.
> >> 
> >> You cannot block read and execute access to a lot of system files
> >> (binaries, libraries, /usr/[local/]share/) without making the
> >> system useless.
> >> 
> >> What is the problem you're trying to solve? Blocking read access to
> >> system files is almost certainly the wrong solution.
> >> 
> > Want to keep all the users from being able to see anything outside
> > of their home directory using gnome or kde desktop. 
> 
> I ask again, why? 

The only thing I can imagine is that he is worried about the privacy of
other users files. If that is the case a chmod 700 on the directories
and a chmod 600 on the (user) files would give a little privacy for
others. It's very difficult to see each others files that way.

As you already stated: system files are a totally different story.
Users should not have to worry about them.

> Realize that if the users have physical access to the machine, these
> security measures are _useless_. A hostile user could take out the
> harddisk, put it in a machine where he has a root account and read all
> the disk's contents (unless it's encrypted).

You're right here but I get the feeling this is beside the point of the
OP question. ;-)

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Re: firewall rules for bitlord, yahoo, limewire

2008-11-26 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 10:54:43 -0600
"Andrew Gould" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Wojciech Puchar <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > sorry for asking but what are this "limewire" programs are?
> >
> >
> My unofficial take on it is that limewire is a peer-to-peer sharing
> application used by Windows, Mac OS X and Linux users to share files,
> usually music, often copyrighted, over the internet.  It is one of the
> fastest, most effective ways to spread viruses, trojans, spyware, etc.

Is this your FreeBSD POV or more windows oriented?

> The program does not use fixed ports, so the services are hard to
> block.  In essence, the program gets the user to bypass security
> measures from the inside.

I have never needed a block on limewire. Firstly, all main conmputers
run solaris and therefore also limewire on solaris and secondly, all
windows machines are virtual. So -IF- one of them is infected I just
put a recent snapshot ;-)

> If I am incorrect in my technical assessment, I welcome a correction.

Personally I'm not infected on windows machines recently by any
limewire connections. But ymmv.
 
> When people ask my advice about computers, I always include:  "Never
> use Limewire, or anything like it."

You can also say: use them but don't connect them to the net.
I know, I'm cynical here, but limewire is not all bad!

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Re: Unix program that sends email directly using MX record

2008-11-29 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 12:04:34 -0500
Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Peter Boosten([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2008.11.29 17:34:28 +0100:
> > Yeah, in 1845 it was. Sendmail is as secure as any other mta. And
> > using 
> 
> Simply not true. Sendmail has had TONS of remote vulnerabilities. Many
> people have fallen victims to exploits and had their servers rooted.

May be, but still, sendmail is -AS SECURE AS ANY OTHER MTA- now!
When do stop looking back to bitch on sendmail?
If you don't like it, don't use it.

> qmail has never had a remote root vulnerability or a similar flaw
> because it's designed with security in mind.

Not only with security. Also with lack of possiblities.

> Sendmail never was.

But it is still the most used mta worldwide.

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Re: FreeBSD and hardware??

2008-12-01 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:39:39 +0100 (CET)
Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> there is no sense of buying Sun hardware. they make excellent
> hardware but with more than "excellent" price

You are right about that. The quality is very high; prices are too.

> and their unix is damn slow compared to FreeBSD.

These kinds of personal (subjective) remarks are FUD if you don't
deliver the test results.

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Re: Disenchanted with ZFS; alternatives?

2008-12-01 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:26:04 +0100 (CET)
Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> it simply wastes RAM and CPU power. same thing takes 10-20 times more
> CPU that with UFS

ZFS does things that UFS is not capable of. These (bloathware) things
cost memory indeed. But that memory is certainly not wasted.

I also know you cannot be convinced, because you lowe ZFS.
 
> even if it has some features you may consider nice, it's not worth 
> using bloatware.
> 
> Bloatware should be ALWAYS avoided no matter how fast your hardware
> is and how much RAM do you have.

True, except ZFS is a big winner and no bloatware. And although you are
pretty stubborn in this matter, I still say this ;-)
ZFS is here to stay. Given the fact it's not quite mature (yet); it is
still under heavy development, but it is also stable enough for rock
solid Solaris 10 servers with ZFS. (and NO, this is not all on Sun
hardware).

I for one will never go back to filesystems like UFS/UFS2.
My data is quite safe on ZFS; my systems are fast; backups are a snap
with snapshots; the list of PROs is long, very long (and all this for a
still young filesystem...)

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Re: Virtualized FreeBSD

2008-03-15 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 09:08:02 +0100 (CET)
Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > I am currently running CentOS on a bunch of virtualized guest os's
> > but need to upgrade them.  I see that FreeBSD 7.0 is virtualized.
> > Given a choice, I would rather use FreeBSD because of the ease of
> > use of keeping the ports current.
> >
> > I am just wondering if anyone has used the virtualized FreeBSD in a
> > producton environment and if so what are the pros and cons?
> 
> what is "virtualized FreeBSD"?
> 
> if you mean FreeBSD jails - yes it runs fine, i use them on 6.3p1

I think it's obvious he means running freebsd as a guest OS on some
kind of VM (VMWare, VirtualBox)

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Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7?

2008-03-16 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:15:34 +0100
Roland Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> For youtube, you can use the www/youtube-dl port to download them, and
> mplayer to play them.

I just want to watch them. I've friends on youtube and kids who make
movies of their 3days vacation i.e. Don't want to download them first
just to look at them. It's like downloading a CD to listen to a sample
to find out what's it like. Urg.

> Alternatively, you can use the DownloadHelper add-on to download
> videos from several sites.

The same CON.

> I for one am very glad to _not_ see all the annoying flash-based ads.

And for me it's a handicap. It's like looking to the net through
glasses that are to dark to see all. I think it's a pity fbsd people
tend to ignore modern internet. Flash (or flash-like) webcontent will
not go away. Not for quite a while i.m.h.o.

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Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7?

2008-03-16 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:32:06 +0200
Ion-Mihai Tetcu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Your mails are constantly marked as spam because of spamhaus' PBL
> http://www.spamhaus.org/pbl/query/PBL169796

Too bad for spamhaus that they can't make a difference between
legitimate mail and real spam. Not my fault though. Yes I _can_ use my
isp for mail, but I won't. Things are pretty well organised here.

> Maybe you can remove your IP from the list on the page above?

I have no access to spamhaus. Spam is a bad thing but people are
overreacting by blocking dynamic ip's. Lots of us are 'good' people
y'know. All mail coming from one of my servers is clean. Period.

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Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7?

2008-03-16 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:32:06 +0200
Ion-Mihai Tetcu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Maybe you can remove your IP from the list on the page above ?

DONE.

OK, Removal Pending

The IP address has been added to the PBL Removals database. Please allow 30 
minutes for servers around the world to update their data (it is possible for 
some servers to take a little longer, we do not control the update times of all 
DNSBL servers).

Under normal circumstances, in approximately 30 minutes you should be able to 
send email directly to networks that use Spamhaus' Policy Block List anti-spam 
system.

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Re: Back up files...

2008-04-09 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 18:16:45 +0200
Roland Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What I would recommend is to buy a large harddisk with a USB
> connection and use that to store your backups. Make your backups with
> the dump(8) command, and compress the dump using gzip(1). E.g. to
> dump the root partition:
> 
> dump -0 -a -C 8 -h 0 -L -u -f - / |gzip
> >/where/to/put/root-0-20080409.gz

OK. Right. And what is exactly the command for restore?
Something like "gunzip dumpfile.gz | restore rf dumpfile"
Or what. Compressing is nice but the use of gzip is always a bit
confusing to me.

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Re: Flashplugin

2008-06-07 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 15:33:26 -0500
"Sam Fourman Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> use Firefox for Windows and use wine, then install the windows Flash 9
> plugin

People choosing FreeBSD shouldn't be "forced" to run windowish
solution. The OS is not supported. That's a major problem in these
modern times, although lots of fbsd people tend to say it is not.
That's not everyday's live however. FreeBSD does not make the web.

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Re: Flashplugin

2008-06-08 Thread dick hoogendijk

On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 22:16:34 -0400
Jerry McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 12:03:50AM +0200, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 15:33:26 -0500
> > "Sam Fourman Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > use Firefox for Windows and use wine, then install the windows Flash
9 plugin
> >
> > People choosing FreeBSD shouldn't be "forced" to run windowish
solution. The OS is not supported. That's a major problem in these
modern times, although lots of fbsd people tend to say it is not.
That's not everyday's live however. FreeBSD does not make the web.
>
> OK.   So get busy anc contribute a flash9 plugin that works in
> FreeBSD. See if you can get the necessary information out of Adobe.

As Tobias Hoelrich stated:

That's simply wrong. The Flash format byte-code is *not* proprietary. If
you want to, you can go ahead and create your own Flash Player. The
specifications for the format are freely available at:
http://www.adobe.com/openscreenproject/developers/

So, the infromation -is- there.

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Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server?

2008-06-08 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 16:24:56 +0200
Fabian Keil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On a system with an Athlon 1700+ and only 512 MB of RAM,
> receiving snapshots on OpenSolaris renders the GUI pretty
> much useless.

> Note that the system is below Sun's recommended specifications
> for ZFS, though. Things may look differently on more powerful
> systems.

The -bare- minimum for OpenSolaris is 512MB. That's not only for ZFS.
In my experience ZFS on solaris is rock solid. OpenSolaris is not yet
ready for production servers though i.m.h.o. nor is nevada_b90 with the
ability to boot off ZFS root. Production servers need to be well (no
thoroughly) tested ;-)

The best stable (production) server with ZFS is solaris-10u5
If you want to boot off ZFS, S10u6 will support that.

But these versions too need lots of ram. I think fbsd has a lighter
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Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server?

2008-06-08 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:08:59 +0200 (CEST)
Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > As you might have read, I have quite a lot of RAM available on this
> > server (4GB), but ofcource I want the operating system to take as
> > little as possible so that I have as much RAM as possible over for
> > the server processes to work with (mostly web-server and
> > mysql-server).
> 
> ZFS is memory and CPU eater. prepare that very few will be left for
> actual work ;)

Bollocks.
It consumes memory. The more seperate filesystems, the more memory. But
don't execurate. For a webserver on zfs 4GB is more than enough.

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Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server?

2008-06-08 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:05:08 +0200 (CEST)
Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > On a system with an Athlon 1700+ and only 512 MB of RAM,
> > receiving snapshots on OpenSolaris renders the GUI pretty
> > much useless.
> 
> looks like very bad CPU and I/O scheduling on Solaris.
> maybe that's their 32-64 hardware threads capable chip is advertised
> so much? :)

Don't write about things you don't know.
*Maybe's* don't help.
You don't have to like solaris but don't troll about it, please.
Both systems have their pro's and cons.

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Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server?

2008-06-08 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:01:23 +0200 (CEST)
Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> while i don't use it, it works rather as in manual. no crashes if 
> configured right.

> that's just my opinion about ZFS that it isn't very useful at all.
> it's just memory and CPU eater.

Your entitled to your opinion, but please try to base it on some facts.
ZFS is herre to stay. You better get used to it. at least you could try
to work with it before you make up an opinion. Have you -any- idea at
all what this FS is capable off?

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Re: Dump Restore on ZFS root system

2012-02-07 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

Op 7-2-2012 15:18, William Brown schreef:

On 07/02/2012, at 22:25, dick wrote:


Op 7-2-2012 12:23, Vincent Hoffman schreef:

On 07/02/2012 11:00, dick wrote:

I run a ZFS on root FreeBSD system. I know I can backup with snapshots
but I want a dump/restore action because I want to transfer this
system to a UFS virtual FreeBSD machine.
My question is: will dump / (root) make a dump of *ALL* other
directories?


Dump works at the filesystem level and will not work on a zfs filesystem
[root@banshee /backup/local/zfs]# dump -b 64  -f - ./
dump: ./: unknown file system

I'd use tar or cpio or pax or something.
On a UFS filesystem dump will only dump the filesystem specified and
will not cross mountpoints.

OK, got it. I will have to read up on the best option (tar, cpio or pax)
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Why not use the ZFS send / receive command?
After reading the info on 
http://www.aisecure.net/2011/03/26/cloning-a-zfs-bootable-system/ I 
might be doing that. Sounds not too difficult and it is not really a 
problem to have ZFS on the virtual machine. It runs good enough, at 
least solaris 11 runs smoothly as a VM. Thanks for the tips.

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Re: Port dependencies

2011-04-02 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

On 2-4-2011 2:51, Polytropon wrote:

So there is still stuff one needs to compile, and
YOU are in charge to define the options you need.
This is the "downside" when you're running a multi-
purpose OS like FreeBSD.


That is a good thing. But I remember an issue that I never understood. I 
onced set up a system as a mail and webserver and used packages for 
this. Fast and easy I thought and good enough. But although 
lamp/famp/samp is very common I could not install apache WITH php 
support. Why? Because php has no support for apache compiled in the 
precompiled package (it might have been the other way around; not quite 
sure). Anyway, apache+php could not be installed from packages. I had to 
compile them from ports. I hated that and could not understand why a so 
common setting is not on by default.

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Re: Port dependencies

2011-04-03 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

Op 2-4-2011 19:03, Randal L. Schwartz schreef:

That's one of the first things I do with a fresh system that will be
only a server:

   echo "WITHOUT_X11=yes">>  /etc/make.conf

And then *never* use packages.  Only ports


Are the quotes neccessary?
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FreeBSD ZFS system

2011-06-21 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
OK, it works very well. Installing a ZFS FreeBSD system with an ufs 
/boot is very very easy using the PC-BSD DVD.

However, I have one question:

I'd like to install FreeBSD (pcbsd) on a (zfs) mirror
In OpenSolaris you can install directly to the zfs mirror, but how's 
this in this situation> After all, an UFS partitin is also created. How 
can I get the equivalent of an OpenSolaris mirrored install for a 
FreeBSD system?


Hope I phrased the question clearly enough.
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gpart

2011-06-25 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

OK, I follow the manual but still...
I have a disk fo 20Gb
I create a GPT table for the whole disk on it:
# gpart create -s gpt /dev/md0
-> md0 created
# gpart show md0
34  8573  md0  GPT  (4.2M)
Only 4 Mb?? Not really what I wanted. Anyone an idea of why the whole 
disk is nog used?

What am I doning wrong?

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Re: gpart

2011-06-25 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

Op 25-6-2011 15:14 schreef Dick Hoogendijk:

OK, I follow the manual but still...
I have a disk fo 20Gb
I create a GPT table for the whole disk on it:
# gpart create -s gpt /dev/md0
-> md0 created
# gpart show md0
34  8573  md0  GPT  (4.2M)
Only 4 Mb?? Not really what I wanted. Anyone an idea of why the whole 
disk is nog used?

What am I doning wrong?


Never mind. Problem solved. Wrong device.
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Re: FreeBSD ZFS system

2011-06-25 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

Op 23-6-2011 9:35 schreef Valentin Bud:
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Dick Hoogendijk <mailto:d...@nagual.nl>> wrote:


OK, it works very well. Installing a ZFS FreeBSD system with an
ufs /boot is very very easy using the PC-BSD DVD.
However, I have one question:

I'd like to install FreeBSD (pcbsd) on a (zfs) mirror
In OpenSolaris you can install directly to the zfs mirror, but
how's this in this situation> After all, an UFS partitin is also
created. How can I get the equivalent of an OpenSolaris mirrored
install for a FreeBSD system?

Hope I phrased the question clearly enough.
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Hello Community,

 Like others said in their answer to your question, you don't have to 
put /boot on UFS, just go with root on ZFS.
If you would like speed when installing the system I recommend mfsBSD 
- http://mfsbsd.vx.sk/. As pointed out
in the web page there is a script (zfsinstall) that does all the work 
for you. It does all the steps described in the

wiki - http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot/Mirror.

 If you want to gain knowledge about the process of installing FreeBSD 
with root on ZFS then go with the wiki
article. Using mfsBSD I install a 8.2-STABLE custom system in under 5 
seconds. That's pretty neat :).
OK, I tried mfsbsd. I had the iso loaded at ata1 master and 
freebsd-8.2-dvd as ata1 slave.
I booted my VM; mfsbsd came up fine. I mounted my fbsd dvd drive on 
/cdrom and tried to run the zfsinstall script. Alas, it refuses.. It 
can't find the (needed!) 8.2-RELEASE.???tgz file It does not exist. 
There is only a directory 8.2-RELEASE (on DVD as well as on CDROM ). 
Question: is this a bug in zfsinstall script?

How do I work around it?

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mountroot

2011-06-29 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
I'm a little desperade. I installed a mirrored ZFS freebsd system in a 
VM the other day and all went well. Now I did the same procedure on a 
real systrem with two drives and I can't get the system to boot 
properly. Everytime it halts at the mountroot prompt.
If I manually put zfs:zroot at the prompt the system boots to the login 
screen.
I checked the /etc/rc.conf and the /boot/loader.conf for syntax errors 
but all seems well. What on earth can be the cause of this behaviour? 
What do I check? Help?

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Re: mountroot

2011-06-29 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

Op 29-6-2011 21:15, Trond Endrestøl schreef:

On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 20:42+0200, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:


I'm a little desperade. I installed a mirrored ZFS freebsd system in
a VM the other day and all went well. Now I did the same procedure
on a real systrem with two drives and I can't get the system to boot
properly. Everytime it halts at the mountroot prompt. If I manually
put zfs:zroot at the prompt the system boots to the login screen. I
checked the /etc/rc.conf and the /boot/loader.conf for syntax errors
but all seems well. What on earth can be the cause of this
behaviour? What do I check? Help?

Have you specified a bootfs?

E.g.:

   zpool set bootfs=zroot zroot


Yes, I did. And just did it again.
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Re: mountroot

2011-06-29 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

Op 29-6-2011 21:19, Trond Endrestøl schreef:

On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 21:18+0200, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:


Op 29-6-2011 21:15, Trond Endrestøl schreef:

On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 20:42+0200, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:


I'm a little desperade. I installed a mirrored ZFS freebsd system in
a VM the other day and all went well. Now I did the same procedure
on a real systrem with two drives and I can't get the system to boot
properly. Everytime it halts at the mountroot prompt. If I manually
put zfs:zroot at the prompt the system boots to the login screen. I
checked the /etc/rc.conf and the /boot/loader.conf for syntax errors
but all seems well. What on earth can be the cause of this
behaviour? What do I check? Help?

Have you specified a bootfs?

E.g.:

zpool set bootfs=zroot zroot

Yes, I did. And just did it again.

Please post your /boot/loader.conf.

And did it again (zpool set bootfs=zroot zroot) ; rebooted and finally 
the system boots up.

So, problem solved. Posts arfe being fetched. Thanks.
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zfs tuning

2011-06-29 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
I would welcome some advise on zfs tuning. Coming from solaris I need 
this info.
The system only has 2MB of ram. No problems running solaris11 in it so 
far so FreeBSD should do just fine too, but who can suggest some 
settings for:

vm.kmem_size
vm.kmem_size_max
vfs.zfs.arc_max
vfs.zfs.vdev.cache.size
Mind you, it's for a 2MB FreeBSD-8.2 system; no X; serving mail, web, dns
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Re: zfs tuning

2011-06-30 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

Op 29-6-2011 23:45, Gary Gatten schreef:

2 "Mega" Bytes?  Surely that's a typo, but is it 200MB?  2GB?

Those that know ZFS will want to know the primary use / load of this system.

It was a typo for sure. Should be 2GB
It will be a server, so no X

FAMP
Mailserver for < 10 users (imap)
Nameserver internal network

I will run about five domains, using Wordpress for three of them and 
TYPO3 for the other two.

NO photosite, so no heavy loads on the MySQL databases.

Solaris does not need settings for ZFS. I just run it and all's been 
well. Never had problems.

I understand however that for FreeBSD it usually is better to tune things.
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Boot Environments

2011-06-30 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

On solaris you can have different BE's (boot environments) using ZFS.
Is this possible with FreeBSD ZFS? I can't recall ever have seen a tool 
like BEadm (solaris).

But maybe using ZFS manually I can get more BE's?
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ZFS on root backup

2011-07-11 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
OK, so now my ZFS on root FreeBSD-8.2 system runs smoothly and I'm very 
happy being able to have ZFS (coming from solaris11), but.. what is the 
best strategy to back this fbsd system up. do I create various ZFS 
backup filesystem streams or can I easely backup the zroot pool as a 
whole? And if yes, how?

Grateful for all the help I can get in these matters.
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mutt and slrn

2011-07-12 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
I've been a GUI man for the last couple of years. Recently I wanted to 
change back to the two programs I used most: mutt (email) and slrn 
(news) only to find out they were not in ports anymore. Yes I know, 
there'se japanese versions, but what ever happened to the 'normal' 
programs? Are they gone?


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Re: mutt and slrn

2011-07-12 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

Op 12-7-2011 11:39 schreef Dick Hoogendijk:
I've been a GUI man for the last couple of years. Recently I wanted to 
change back to the two programs I used most: mutt (email) and slrn 
(news) only to find out they were not in ports anymore. Yes I know, 
there'se japanese versions, but what ever happened to the 'normal' 
programs? Are they gone?


I stand corrected. Must have overlooked something in doing the make 
search name= thing in /usr/ports. They do exist in the normal places 
(news/slrn and mail/mutt)

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Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-17 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

Op 17-7-2011 14:17 schreef Subbsd:

community decreases. It is a pity that many developers of FreeBSD have
left in Apple, the small part works over {NET,OPEN,DRAGONFLY}.BSD but
as a whole it already absolutely small small groups of people.

And do you feel this will be the end of FreeBSD?
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compat directory

2011-07-19 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
It may be a stupid question but my FreeBSD-8.2 system lacks a /compat 
directory. Is this normal? does it get installed through some kind of 
software package?

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Re: compat directory

2011-07-19 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

Op 19-7-2011 12:21 schreef Polytropon:

So it should be there when you've been using sysinstall
for system installation. If you've used a different tool
(or "no tool"), it may be the reason why it is missing.
I installed a ZFS on root system using the known scripts. So the symlink 
is not created ;-)

Thanks for the info.
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emacs-nox11

2011-07-24 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
I want a plain console version of emacs installed on my freebsd-8.2 
system. So I chose the editors/emacs-nox11 port, but I get an option 
screen with a lot of options set to 'on' for which I get the feeling 
they are X related. I.e. Freetype, Jpeg, Gif, GConf en lots of others. 
So, I'm confused and would very much like to know *which* of those 
options have to be turned on for a plaun console version of emacs. Hope 
to get some help.


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Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-24 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

Op 24-7-2011 2:00 schreef Jerry:

On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 15:58:07 -0600
Chad Perrin articulated:


You are clearly an asshole who has no interest in having a reasonable
discussion.  "Newer methods" do not "frighten" me, you stupid asshole.

Thanks Chad. At one time I thought you were intelligent with
conflicting views. However, the more of your posts I have read over the
past several months, the more I have become convinced that you are
suffering from Paranoia.

From an earlier post:
>  
>  Dinosaurs are dead and the world moves forward. To deny others the

>  availability and use of newer methods simply because they frighten you
>  is beyond belief.

You are clearly an asshole who has no interest in having a reasonable
discussion.  "Newer methods" do not "frighten" me, you stupid asshole.

Learn to read.
I must say I find Chad's post very reasonable and worth reading. When 
somone refers to me as a dinosaur I would also be a little offended. 
Hence, I understand Chad's reaction to that statement of yours.
If your read his posts carefully you have to admid they are well thought 
of, at least that's my feeling. Mind you, I might have hold myself back 
of what Chad said (uou stupid asshole). I would like to think I would 
have controlled my anger ;-)



A fellow poster, Bruce Cran made a reference to the Windows registry.
Although he was quite correct in his remarks, you choose to belittle
his contribution.


That might be true. But I can't see how digging in Windows registry can 
be compared by editing a few simple textfiles the way UNIX had always 
worked. Althoudh the network settings might actually be in this registry 
setting it simply is not the same as a /etc/network file. Or on freebsd 
a etc/rc.conf



You have serious mental health issues Chad. Get help!


This might also be taken offensively. You are no shrink. why make such 
remarks. Let's stop this tone of arguments please. And going back on the 
subject of network managers I have to agree I too hate these tools from 
the moment they took over the manual way of setting things. Even good 
old solaris now has this on by *default*. Horrible (imho).

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Re: emacs-nox11

2011-07-24 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

Op 24-7-2011 12:46 schreef C. P. Ghost:

Since there are no X11 libs in emacs despite all those options
being set anyway, I suppose that setting WITHOUT_X11 creates
a non-X11 emacs.

I'm using the following port (normal emacs, with WITHOUT_X11 set):

% echo /var/db/pkg/emacs*
/var/db/pkg/emacs-23.3_1,2

But I don't know if X dependencies are being pulled in when the
port is being built with all those options.


Yes, but the latter is just what worries me. I want a console version of 
emacs. It's a server and I absolutely do not want any X dependencies 
cluttering my system. Ports are great but sometimes they have bitten me 
in this respect.
Sure, I can do a dry run on a virtual freebsd machine, but that is not 
at all that fast.
So I'm still looking for people who have done this ans _know_ it will 
work out OK.

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Re: Android (Re: 2020: Will BSD and Linux be relevant anymore?)

2011-07-25 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

Op 25-7-2011 18:59 schreef Chad Perrin:

So the problem is not a missing app, it is more of the usual "vendor
lock" stuff.

There's that -- but there's also a lot of missing applications.


HTC is removing the root lock protection soon.
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MC and snapshots

2011-07-29 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
Can one of you tell me why it is not possible to browse .zfs directories 
(from snapshots) with midnight commander? I'm running FreeBSD-8.2 w/ mc 
from ports.
Manually switching to .zfs and it's subdirectories does show the 
snapshotted files, but I would like to be able to browse them (its so 
much easier).

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Re: MC and snapshots

2011-07-29 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

Op 29-7-2011 22:14, Daniel Staal schreef:

On Fri, July 29, 2011 2:26 pm, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:

Can one of you tell me why it is not possible to browse .zfs directories
(from snapshots) with midnight commander? I'm running FreeBSD-8.2 w/ mc
from ports.
Manually switching to .zfs and it's subdirectories does show the
snapshotted files, but I would like to be able to browse them (its so
much easier).

I know that the snapshots aren't mounted by default.  (And are
mounted/unmounted on the fly if needed.)  That's probably part of it, at
least.

Have you tried setting the 'snapdir' property to 'visible'?  I don't know
that would help, but it'd be worth trying.
I *can* go to the snapshots and see the files. I even can copy one or 
more of them to the live system. However, the moment I try to do this 
from within Midnight Commander I'm kicked out of the snapshot directory 
right into the root of the live filesystem. That way not able to 
manipulated snapshot files.

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larger disk for a zfs pool

2011-08-01 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
OK, my freebsd system runs on ZFS boot. W/ solaris getting larger disks 
for a pool was quit easy. Simply replace one disk from a mirror for a 
larger one, wait for the resilvering and after this replace the second 
one for a larger disk and wait for the resilvering again. That's it. 
Been there, done that. But my feeling tells me it is not that simple for 
a FreeBSD zfs root system, or is it?

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Re: larger disk for a zfs pool

2011-08-01 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

Op 1-8-2011 16:37, Dan Nelson schreef:

In the last episode (Aug 01), Dick Hoogendijk said:

OK, my freebsd system runs on ZFS boot. W/ solaris getting larger disks
for a pool was quit easy. Simply replace one disk from a mirror for a
larger one, wait for the resilvering and after this replace the second
one for a larger disk and wait for the resilvering again. That's it.
Been there, done that. But my feeling tells me it is not that simple for
a FreeBSD zfs root system, or is it?

Should be the same procedure.  Make sure you either use "zpool online -e"
when swapping in the new disks, or that you have the zpool autoexpand=on
attribute set.


But I'm confused about the gpart thing I did on the original disks.

$ gpart show
=>   34  156301421  ad4  GPT  (75G)
 341281  freebsd-boot  (64K)
16283886082  freebsd-swap  (4.0G)
8388770  1479126853  freebsd-zfs  (71G)

=>   34  156301421  ad6  GPT  (75G)
 341281  freebsd-boot  (64K)
16283886082  freebsd-swap  (4.0G)
8388770  1479126853  freebsd-zfs  (71G)

Do I repeat this gpart section on the new disk(s) before putting them in 
the rpool (one at a time). Is it compatrible to putting the solaris 
bootcode on disk before attaching them to a rootpool and resilvering? I 
want to expand my rootpool but am a little confused about the right 
procedure.

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Re: larger disk for a zfs pool

2011-08-01 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

Op 1-8-2011 17:06, andrew clarke schreef:

On Mon 2011-08-01 16:30:50 UTC+0200, Dick Hoogendijk (d...@nagual.nl) wrote:


OK, my freebsd system runs on ZFS boot. W/ solaris getting larger disks
for a pool was quit easy. Simply replace one disk from a mirror for a
larger one, wait for the resilvering and after this replace the second
one for a larger disk and wait for the resilvering again. That's it.
Been there, done that. But my feeling tells me it is not that simple for
a FreeBSD zfs root system, or is it?

By the way, a similar question appeared on the freebsd-fs list recently:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2011-June/011887.html

Although the question was asked with regards to ZFS v28, which may be
newer than what you are using.
Thanks for the pointer. It's not hopeful plus the fact that I want to 
expand a rootpool from which I want to boot the system.

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mysql client(s)

2011-08-11 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

PhpMyAdmin shows:

Server: Localhost via UNIX socket
Server version: 5.5.15
Protocol version: 10
User: root@localhost
MySQL charset: UTF-8 Unicode (utf8)

Apache/2.2.19 (FreeBSD) mod_ssl/2.2.19 OpenSSL/0.9.8q DAV/2 PHP/5.3.6 
with Suhosin-Patch

MySQL client version: mysqlnd 5.0.8-dev - 20102224 - $Revision: 308673 $

I don't understand the client version thing. I have mysql-client-5.5.15 
installed too.
*Why* does PhpMyAdmin not show this client but an (to me) unknown 
program (mysqlnd-5.0.8-dev) Where does this program come from. I have no 
idea how it came on my system.


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pdo_mysql.so

2011-08-12 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
I need pdo_mysql.so for Drupal7 to work correctly, but I only see pdo.so 
and pdo_sqlite.so in the php5 extension directory. So, I checked the 
'make config' to see if I forgot something. But the option to build 
pdo_mysql is not there. How do I get this pdo_mysql.so file?

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zfs-snapshot-mgmt.conf

2011-08-13 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
I would like to get some suggestions on the configuration of zfs 
snapshots taken for the root pool.

zfs-snapshot-mgmt.conf.example just gives some info on /usr/home and/or /usr
Does anybody use this utility for automated snapshots for his/her 
rootpool and want to share some code?


I use it in a cron job and want to use the snapshots for the zxfer tool.
I now use this line:
/usr/local/sbin/zxfer -dFkPv -g 376 -R zroot backup01/pools

I would like to have some snapshots on my system that are usable with 
this zxfer line.
I once did create snapshots every ten minutes but the system got loaded 
with snapshots and transferring them (incremental) tot the backup system 
froze my kernel (vm.kmem_size too low) I have 2G ram and use a 
vm.kmem_size=512M Maybe this _is_ too small?



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drupal7 port

2011-08-22 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
I installed the drupal7 port but noticed that the webserver root (the 
drupal core files) were *all* owned by www:www Isn't this an enormous 
security risk to have apache being able to write in the core directorues 
of drupal7?

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Re: to come from Linux to FreeBSD

2011-08-24 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

Op 24-8-2011 10:41, Matthew Seaman schreef:

Virtualization is actually a bit of a tricky thing with FreeBSD. 
There's Jail, which is excellent -- very light weight, but it only 
works with FreeBSD guests. There's VirtualBox, but that runs the guest 
OSes as a standard client application and it tends to be slow


VirtualBox is absolutely not slow. At least not on Solaris nor on 
windows7 boxes. The VB support from FreeBSD is not that good imho. It is 
a lot easier to get it going under linux, windows or solaris. I know, 
fbsd packages do not exist. I wonder why...



Running FreeBSD as a guest under most virtualization software works well


This is very true, I agree. I've set up a ZFS root system with four 
disks lately to try out before doing so on rela hardware and it worked 
very very well.


Dick
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portmaster -a -B -d

2011-08-28 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
A few days back I did a "portmaster -a -B -d" but later on I found out 
that one port (www/eAccelerator) complained about being compiled for 
another version of PHP (which by then was updated by portmaster). I 
expected portmaster to take care of these kind of dependencies. Where am 
I wrong in this assumption?

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Re: portmaster -a -B -d

2011-08-28 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

Op 28-8-2011 16:27, Matthew Seaman schreef:

Ideally ports committers should bump the
eaccelerator PORTREVISION to make ports management tools do that
automatically, but if not, you're going to have to remember to do it by
hand.


Thank you for your explanation. I enjoyed reading it and learned a lot 
from it.


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Re: Best Server OS for Someone That Does not Want to Touch a Shell on a Regular Basis?

2011-09-05 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
If you really want. GUI based server, go for a Windows one. It will cost you 
but security has improved. I would never do it though but I manage my server 
with shell tools. I love the easiness of textbased config files ;)

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upcoming 9.0 release

2011-12-02 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
Setting up plans for the upcoming 9.0 release I have one question. 
Assuming the freebsd-update utility will bring me from the 8.2-release 
to the new 9.0-release I'm not sure what to do exactly with the 
installed ports.


I always use portmaster. What steps do I take to get from installed 
ports on 8.2-release to 9.0?

Is there a nice and working procedure to follow?
Thanks for the advice.
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freebsd-update

2011-12-04 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
Why do I get a warning if I use freebsd-update about a renewal of my 
FreeBSD installation within the next two months because after that time 
it will nog be supported anymore?

I run FreeBSD-release-p4. Freebsd-update 'sees' p3. Is this the cause?
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Re: freebsd-update

2011-12-04 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

Op 4-12-2011 13:03, andrew clarke schreef:
From what I understand, the focus is on releasing FreeBSD 9.0, and 8.3 
will be released after that. But 9.0 is still in testing. Despite the 
message, I suspect security updates for 8.2 will still be issued for 
several months after 8.3 is released, to give people plenty of time to 
test 8.3 first before upgrading their 8.2 machines.


Good to know. Thanks for the answer. I never go to a .0 release on a 
production server. Probably will switch to 9.1 or 9.2 when it's ready 
and stay with the 8.x series 'till then.

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Re: FreeBSD9 + PHP

2012-01-10 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

Op 9-1-2012 21:06, Chuck Swiger schreef:

On Jan 9, 2012, at 12:02 PM, alexus wrote:

there is no way to make it like that? so it has to be build via ports?

The PHP maintainer decides the default options, which is what the precompiled 
package you got used.  While many people want PHP in the form of an Apache 
module, other folks use it via fastcgi and so forth...
Yes that might be so. But it's far better to *have* this module and 
disable it in Apache than not have it at all and for that reason only 
*buiild* apache from ports in stead of using a package.

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Re: FreeBSD9 + PHP

2012-01-10 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

Op 9-1-2012 21:02, alexus schreef:

there is no way to make it like that? so it has to be build via ports?

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Peter  wrote:

I created a jail and within a jail I did

pkg_add -r apache22
pkg_add -r php5

now I have apache and php, but whenever I'm trying to hit phpinfo.php,
I see source code... I dont think php5 added inside of apache22

--
http://alexus.org/

I don't think the package has the apache module by default:
pkbsd:#pwd
/usr/ports/lang/php5
pkbsd:#make config
[ ] APACHE Build Apache module

That is unchecked. You'll have to select that and build the port.
...Or you can use the CGI version which is included in the package:
[*] CGIBuild CGI version

Yes there is no other way. Personally I find this unchecking rather 
weird. To me apache/PHP are a happily married couple. It makes building 
a webserver on packages only *not* possible and that's stupid imo.


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Re: ports vs packages

2012-01-10 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

Op 9-1-2012 23:00, alexus schreef:

Thank you so much for this wonderful feedback!

One of the things I'm seeing is that unfortunately packages are
somewhat limited vs ports...

For example:

I'm trying to get Apache httpd + PHP to work, after pkg_add -r php5,
php5 doesn't have libphp5.so that links Apache and PHP together... so
unless I'm doing something entirely wrong I basically must use ports
and nothing else to get the functionality i need...


As I write in another reply: that's true and totally stupid imo.
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Re: ports vs packages

2012-01-10 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

Op 10-1-2012 12:36, Eric Masson schreef:

Dick Hoogendijk  writes:

Hi,


As I write in another reply: that's true and totally stupid imo.

*You* think it's stupid.

Yes, as I wrote: "stupid imo"
But thanks again for your reply. You may be right but I still feel it's 
better to *have* the pache module and disable it than to *have to* use 
ports just to get it.

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Re: FreeBSD9 + PHP

2012-01-10 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

Op 10-1-2012 15:30, Damien Fleuriot schreef:


On 1/10/12 11:11 AM, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:

Op 9-1-2012 21:06, Chuck Swiger schreef:

On Jan 9, 2012, at 12:02 PM, alexus wrote:

there is no way to make it like that? so it has to be build via ports?

The PHP maintainer decides the default options, which is what the
precompiled package you got used.  While many people want PHP in the
form of an Apache module, other folks use it via fastcgi and so forth...

Yes that might be so. But it's far better to *have* this module and
disable it in Apache than not have it at all and for that reason only
*buiild* apache from ports in stead of using a package.


Yeah, no thank you.

What about those people that don't even *use* apache and want to install
PHP ?

We get stuck with a useless module ?

Really, *no thank you*
Wow, that really IS bad.. considering the price of drivespace.. No it 
really is much better to *force* everyone who wants to run apache/PHP to 
*build* from source. No pkgadd for those guys..

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Re: FreeBSD9 + PHP

2012-01-10 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

Op 10-1-2012 15:32, Damien Fleuriot schreef:
A possible alternative that would keep everyone happy would be 
*another* package that actually includes the module, like for example 
a package called "mod_php5", it would install the stuff from php5 + 
the apache module.


That is the way CentOS handles things and that works very well too.
So +1
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upgrade from 8.2 to 9.0

2012-01-13 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

I possible I want my server to upgrade from 8.2-RELEASE to 9.0-RELEASE.
I guess the binary upgrade will not be a problem with "freebsd-update -r 
9.0-RELEASE fetch" If so, I do like to hear the caveats.
My main problem lies with the installed ports. I know the -all- have to 
be recompiled, but I don't know an easy way for this job.  I always use 
portmaster. Do I have to make a list manually for all installed ports? 
Or is there a procedure to follow in this matter? I'd like to get some 
pointers if possible.

Thanks.
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Re: upgrade from 8.2 to 9.0

2012-01-13 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

Op 13-1-2012 14:56, Bas Smeelen schreef:

On 01/13/2012 02:42 PM, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:

I possible I want my server to upgrade from 8.2-RELEASE to 9.0-RELEASE.
I guess the binary upgrade will not be a problem with "freebsd-update -r
9.0-RELEASE fetch" If so, I do like to hear the caveats.
My main problem lies with the installed ports. I know the -all- have to be
recompiled, but I don't know an easy way for this job.  I always use
portmaster. Do I have to make a list manually for all installed ports? Or
is there a procedure to follow in this matter? I'd like to get some
pointers if possible.
Thanks.
_

It works great with source upgrade, so freebsd-update should not be a
problem but i haven't used it yet to upgrade to 9.
It is used like this: freebsd-update -r 9.0-RELEASE upgrade  (i.e. not fetch)
See also the handbook for a good explanation

You can use portmaster --list-origins to make a list of all root and leaf
ports and use this to reinstall all ports after the upgrade.
See man portmaster for a good example.

Or you can use portmaster -af to recompile all ports.
Ah, yes, I remember the latter is disadviced because some ports can have 
differences so you have some garbage if you run portmaster -af
I will look up the example in the manual. It also will tell me 
(probably) if all ports have to be removed beforehand or that this does 
not matter.

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Re: upgrade from 8.2 to 9.0

2012-01-14 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

Op 13-1-2012 15:00, Polytropon schreef:

On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 14:42:03 +0100, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:

I possible I want my server to upgrade from 8.2-RELEASE to 9.0-RELEASE.
I guess the binary upgrade will not be a problem with "freebsd-update -r
9.0-RELEASE fetch" If so, I do like to hear the caveats.

Source update also shouldn't be a problem.
Setup your CVS "supfile" to get the 9.0-RELEASE
sources and follow the instructions in the
handbook and in /usr/src/Makefile's comment
header.
I will use the binary upgrade path. It seems easier for a non high-tech 
system ;-)
My system is running ZFS on root now, so I would very much like to hear 
if the binary upgrade through freebsd-update works well for such a 
system (w/ zfs on root). I don't want to get stuck with a system that 
won't boot again because something goes wrong with zfs.

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Re: upgrade from 8.2 to 9.0

2012-01-14 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

Op 14-1-2012 12:37, Mike Clarke schreef:

On Saturday 14 January 2012, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:


My system is running ZFS on root now, so I would very much like to
hear if the binary upgrade through freebsd-update works well for such
a system (w/ zfs on root). I don't want to get stuck with a system
that won't boot again because something goes wrong with zfs.

Have you considerd using manageBE
<http://anonsvn.h3q.com/projects/freebsd-patches/wiki/manageBE>? With
this tool you can set up cloned alternative Boot-Environments (BE) so
that you can go back to your old BE if the new one doesn't work.


I had not heard of this project before. Sounds very nice if it works. 
Manging BE's is one of the main things I miss in the FreeBSD ZFS 
support. Coming from (open)Solaris this was quite a disappointment. BE's 
rock!

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Re: upgrade from 8.2 to 9.0

2012-01-15 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

Op 14-1-2012 17:04, Mike Clarke schreef:

On Saturday 14 January 2012, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:


I had not heard of this project before. Sounds very nice if it works.
Manging BE's is one of the main things I miss in the FreeBSD ZFS
support. Coming from (open)Solaris this was quite a disappointment.
BE's rock!

Yes, it's working fine here.

[...]
Thank you very much for giving these examples. Sounds really nice. Have 
not tried it yet however.
Still feel it's a pity FreeBSD did not incorporate the creation and 
managing of BE's within the system.

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update from 8.2 ZFS on root to 9.0

2012-01-15 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
Does anybody already did a *binary* update (w/ freebsd-update) from a 
zfs on root freebsd-8.2-RELEASE to a new freebsd-9.0-RELEASE zfs on root 
system? Did all went well? I know the procedure (freebsd-update, 
recompile all ports, finish freebsd-update). Succes stories please.. ;-)

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Re: update from 8.2 ZFS on root to 9.0

2012-01-16 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

Op 16-1-2012 13:17, Magnus Strahlert schreef:

On 15 January 2012 14:23, Dick Hoogendijk  wrote:

Does anybody already did a *binary* update (w/ freebsd-update) from a zfs on
root freebsd-8.2-RELEASE to a new freebsd-9.0-RELEASE zfs on root system?
Did all went well? I know the procedure (freebsd-update, recompile all
ports, finish freebsd-update). Succes stories please.. ;-)

Did just that with no kinks at all. It's a zfsroot system with
gptzfsloader. Had to upgrade the gpt bootcode as instructed when
upgrading the zpool for the system to boot. Installing misc/compat8x
made the ports upgrade a lot smoother.

Also had to manually fetch source.txz and extract into /usr/src/sys in
order for certain ports to build correctly such as x11/nvidia-driver,
as that was not done by freebsd-update
Sounds good. Where are these instructions for upgrading the gpt 
bootcode? And do you if it's normal that the souce code is nog updated 
by freebsd-update?

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freebsd-update and src.txz

2012-01-20 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
Is it true that freebsd-update does not update the souce files from 
8.2-R to 9.0-RELEASE? And if not what is the best way to get the src.txz 
installed on an updated system? I do have the disc1 iso. Is src.txz 
installed under /usr/src or /usr/src/sys?

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Re: flash plugin in 6.0

2005-12-19 Thread dick hoogendijk
On 18 Dec Beecher Rintoul wrote:
> On Sunday 18 December 2005 10:16 pm, Dev Tugnait wrote:
> > On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 01:06 -0500, James Bailie wrote:
> > > Dev Tugnait wrote:
> > >  > The port is not broken cvsup your tree
> > >
> > > Yes it is.  While some things work, it still does not create the
> > > proper symbolic link for the acrobat plugin, nor is the path
> > > for it correct in the sample libmap.confs.  Beecher's fix will correct.
> >
> > The only thing it doesnt do is create symbolic links which does not mark
> > a port as BROKEN for one, secondly why would you remove your
> > browser_plugins dir?
> 
> That was a typo, read the followup I sent immediately following the
> first message. Secondly putting plugins in browser_linux_plugins does
> break firefox and mozilla. I would call that broken where I come from.
> Users should not have to move things that were installed in the wrong
> place. That's the job of the port. 

You were very quick with your correction of the typo. Faster than some
of us read their mails ;-)
Secondly, I totally agree to the statement that the port is "broken"
You have too much to manually correct.
At the time I was not aware of the facts and lost quite some time
finding out. If you know, it's not that kind of a deal.

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Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-25 Thread dick hoogendijk
On 24 Dec Danial Thom wrote:
> Schwab Streetsmart
> Accounting Software (CA)
> Quicken
> Photoshop 
> Adobe Acrobat (for creating PDFs)
> 
> Those are the ones I use daily. Surely there are
> some half-assed alternatives for some of these,
> but if I have to use something inferior to use
> FreeBSD then thats a point against it. 

NO. It's not a point against the OS. It merely demonstrates why lots of
people stay with windows. NOT because the OS is better, but its support
by *third party soft-hardware* is better.

Windows itself (the OS) is worse than FreeBSD (imho). Those 3th party
people are responsable for the leading role of microsoft.
Not MS itself.

I'm convinced (though not proven yet) that the software you mentioned
above will run on FreeBSD (if ported natively to the OS) at least as
good, but I guess even better, then it does on windows.

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Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-25 Thread dick hoogendijk
On 24 Dec Kent Stewart wrote:

> There is also the problem that some sites are designed to work with
> Internet Explorer. You can try to visit with firefox but that doesn't
> always work even with firefox on XP.

NO site should be designed to work with IExplorer. I know it's done, but
it should not! Why do we have W3C? If we could all just do things "by
the book" the internet would be a much nicer place to visit.

People who design for IExplorer are bad! They have microsoft in mind and
_not_ the visitors. I hate it when choice gets violated! It should be
called a crime against freedom.

imho: sites designed for 'iexplorer only' should be banned ;-)

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Re: Uninstall Apache???

2005-12-25 Thread dick hoogendijk
On 25 Dec legalois wrote:
> ("make uninstall" is not a valid target for any Makefile in the ports
> tree that I am aware of.)

It's sometimes done this way on linux systems ;-)

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Re: Uninstall Apache???

2005-12-26 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:19:10 +0100
jakels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> dick hoogendijk wrote:
> > On 25 Dec legalois wrote:
> > 
> >>("make uninstall" is not a valid target for any Makefile in the
> >>ports tree that I am aware of.)
> > 
> > It's sometimes done this way on linux systems ;-)
> 
> This is useful to someone working with a BSD o.show, exactly?

NOT.
Have you missed the smiley?

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Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-27 Thread dick hoogendijk
On 26 Dec Danial Thom wrote:

> It doesn't really matter what the "accepted" standard is; its the one
> that *most* people are using. 

Bring this "rule" to society and it won't take all that much time before
we'll live in a jungle (happely ever after ? ;-)

It's the decease of this era that lost of people find it diffcult to
honor rules except their own.

I know the saying "money makes the world turn around"
I disagree.

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Re: how to dual boot

2005-12-27 Thread dick hoogendijk
On 26 Dec Jerry McAllister wrote:
> Just put the FreeBSD install CD back in and install the FreeBSD MBR.
> It will give you a choice as to which to boot.   It works just fine.
> It's only quirk is that, if the MS slice is an NTFS type of filesystem
> it will identify it as ??? in the menu rather than MS-DOS as it
> identifies the FAT type file systems.

That weirdness is over in 6.x
NTFS partitions are under "Fx DOS" now and I must say I like this much
better then "???"

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Re: BSD Question's.

2005-12-27 Thread dick hoogendijk
On 27 Dec Danial Thom wrote:
> --- dick hoogendijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On 26 Dec Danial Thom wrote:
> > 
> > > It doesn't really matter what the "accepted" standard is; its the
> > > one that *most* people are using. 
> > 
> > Bring this "rule" to society and it won't take all that much time
> > before we'll live in a jungle (happely ever after ?  ;-)
> > 
> > It's the decease of this era that lost of people find it diffcult to
> > honor rules except their own.
> > 
> > I know the saying "money makes the world turn around"
> > I disagree.
> 
> Well if you're going to snip all of the context out then you can't
> possibly have a credible argument. You might as well go work for a
> newspaper.

I think my argument stands. The context is in the threat (as you well
know, because it's been written by you).

Furthermore you don't seem to think highly of people working for
newspapers.
Personally I don't look down on people, no matter their work nor social
status.

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Re: compat 5x libraries missnig after restart

2005-12-28 Thread dick hoogendijk
On 28 Dec Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote:

> But why not put
> compat_xx_enable="YES"

There's more wrong to the script. I have compat5x_enable="YES" in
/etc/rc.conf and the script start up, _BUT_ if I shut down (for whatever
reason) I get this console msg question: "compat5x.sh running?"

Strange, it _is_ running, so why is it not "seen"

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amsn-095_1

2005-12-31 Thread dick hoogendijk
I upgraded my aMSN today and hoped to have webcam sessions with my
chatmates. This was a new feature after all. I was very surprised not
to see this happening. Webcamsn was not installed. Strange, because I
had seen it on the compile screens ;-)

I looked and there was no /usr/local/share/amsn/utils/webcamsn
directory! The port did NOT install it (It was made though).

I figure there must be a reason, but I have no idea what it could be.
I did a "make" in the net-im/amsn port dir and copied the
utils/webcamsn to ulsa/utils by hand. After a restart of my amsn the
webcam worked flawlessly!

So, the question remains: WHY is this webcam dir not copied to the
right location after the compilation? Did I miss something? Anybody a
clue?

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Re: amsn-095_1

2006-01-01 Thread dick hoogendijk
On 01 Jan Aftab Jahan Subedar wrote:
> actually it is
> make install clean
> -jahan

It may be because you top-posted, but in my case I could not use "make
install clean" That way I wouldn't have been able to manualy move the
webcam directory, wouldn't I.
Not been installed and deleted in the 'cleaning' action ;-)

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webcam

2006-01-01 Thread dick hoogendijk
OK, maybe it's OT, but I try it anyway. After all, I looked through the
support dox for 6.o release and found not much about my question.

I want to buy a new webcam device. I want it to be clear and sharp. So
it may cost a little more then the all-to-cheap ones (but not too
much ;-) Plus it needs to be supported by FreeBSD-6

Any suggestions from happy users?

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Re: good blogging port?

2006-01-08 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:44:29 +0100
Kristian Vaaf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> www.textpattern.com -- by far the best CMS.

True! But as you may well know, textpattern is far more than blog
software. It's what the name says: content management system. It does a
great job though. I dropped wordpress for it ;-)

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webcam usb device

2006-01-15 Thread dick hoogendijk
I have a Logiteck QuickCam Chat webcam (USB-2)
When I run usbdevs or usbdevs -v I get the following:

[usbdevs]
addr 1: UHCI root hub, VIA
 addr 2: Camera, vendor 0x046d
addr 1: UHCI root hub, VIA

[usbdevs -v]
Controller /dev/usb0:
addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x),
VIA(0x), rev 1.00
 port 1 addr 2: full speed, power 100 mA, config 1, Camera(0x092c),
vendor 0x046d(0x046d), rev 0.00
 port 2 powered
Controller /dev/usb1:
addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x),
VIA(0x), rev 1.00
 port 1 powered
 port 2 powered

So, the device is detected alright. But I cannot get it to work.
Kopeke (KDE)  i.e. does not see the device.

I have two questions:
(a) do I need to load some kind of *.ko file (like for the soundcards)
to use a webcam under freebsd-6R?
(b) what program is useful in testing this (web) usb-camera?

Hope to get some advice.

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Re: webcam usb device

2006-01-16 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 10:20:21 +0100
dick hoogendijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have a Logiteck QuickCam Chat webcam (USB-2)
> The device is detected alright. But I cannot get it to work.
> Kopete (KDE)  i.e. does not see the device.
> 
> I have two questions:
> (a) do I need to load some kind of *.ko file (like for the soundcards)
> to use a webcam under freebsd-6R?
> (b) what program is useful in testing this (web) usb-camera?
> Hope to get some advice.

Nobody reacted. So either I'm stupid and just should know how these
things work in FreeBSD, or people didn't have time yet to respond.

I googled a lot on "webcam and freebsd" but could not find something
relevant. I did read somewhre that on linux one has to create
a /dev/video* which on my fbsd-6R does not exist. I trust devfs should
have made one if needed..

I still at a loss on how to use my webcam on freebsd. It shouldn't be
too hard I'm told. Well, whatever.. It is in dmesg, but further than
that it can not be used. Who has some pointers?

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Re: webcam usb device

2006-01-16 Thread dick hoogendijk
On 16 Jan Andrew P. wrote:
> On 1/16/06, dick hoogendijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I googled a lot on "webcam and freebsd" but could not find something
> > relevant. I did read somewhre that on linux one has to create
> > a /dev/video* which on my fbsd-6R does not exist. I trust devfs should
> > have made one if needed..
> >
> > I still at a loss on how to use my webcam on freebsd. It shouldn't be
> > too hard I'm told. Well, whatever.. It is in dmesg, but further than
> > that it can not be used. Who has some pointers?
> >
> 
> As a matter of fact google comes up with a few useful links:
> http://www.google.com/search?q=webcam+freebsd

Sure, but they all relate to some kind of live cam broadcasting. That's
not what I'm looking for. I just wonder WHY the cam is detected at boot
time and cannot be found i.e. by kopete. If it exists it should be found
somewhere shouldn't it?

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atapicam load question

2006-01-21 Thread dick hoogendijk
Hi,

When I "kldload atapicam" the permissions in /etc/devfs.conf for cd0
are _not_ honored. (I want cd0 to have 0666)
When I put atapicam_load="YES" in /boot/loader.conf the permissions are
set the way I want them.

I would like to make the choice for atapicam later if posssible, so my
question is: why are the permissions not honored by devfs.conf when it
creates a /dev/cd0 device after a "kldload" ?

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Xorg6.9 XkbLayout us_intl

2006-01-28 Thread dick hoogendijk
After upgrading Xorg to 6.9 the keyboard option "XkbLayout" "us_intl"
does not work anymore. so, I don't have accents :-(

Does anybody know how to (re) install international keyboard layout?

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Re: Xorg6.9 XkbLayout us_intl *SOLVED*

2006-01-29 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 18:52:43 +0100
dick hoogendijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> After upgrading Xorg to 6.9 the keyboard option "XkbLayout" "us_intl"
> does not work anymore. so, I don't have accents :-(
> Does anybody know how to (re) install international keyboard layout?

Options "XkbLayout"  "us"
Options "XkbVariant" "intl"

This is the new way ;-)

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Re: gamin vs fam

2006-01-29 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 13:17:28 +0100
Michael Nottebrock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> dick hoogendijk schrieb:
> > Running pkgdb -F everytime is not pleasant. What is (are) the
> > advantage (s) of gamin over fam? Is it wise to change to gamin?
> 
> The recent change of the USE_FAM default was done without proper
> testing
> - others have already reported problems with gamin, especially in the
> case of courier-imap.
> 
> You can however avoid the pkgdb -F dance (if you compile from ports):
> Set WITH_FAM_SYSTEM=fam in /etc/make.conf - this will change the
> default back to fam.

OK, understood.
However, as I understand it, portupgrade (the one I use) does not look
at /etc/make.conf so I still have to put WITH_FAM_SYSTEM="YES" into
pkgtools.conf and don't know exactly for which programs ;-( This is not
good.. Aahhrrgg 

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Re: VMware host on stable?

2006-02-17 Thread dick hoogendijk
On 16 Feb Scott Long wrote:
> dick hoogendijk wrote:
> >On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:15:55 -0700
> >Scott Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>Michael Butler wrote:
> >>
> >>>What is the most recent version of VMware known to work on 6.x in
> >>>host mode so as to be able to run windoze as a guest?
> >>>
> >>>Anyone tried 5.5 on 6.x yet? .. or the time-limited beta (expires
> >>>~July) of VMware server (free! at
> >>>http://www.vmware.com/products/server)?
> >>>
> >>>   Michael
> >>
> >>I have the same question.  I've been looking at porting the 5.5 vmmon
> >>module, but haven't had time yet to start.  All I really need is the
> >>ability to run an existing vmware image.  And no, qemu and xen and
> >>all that is not an option.
> >
> >You're entitled to your POV, of course. But I dare say that *on FreeBSD*
> >Qemu (w/ kqemu) is far better than any build of vmware I've ever seen.
> >Any reason why qemu is "not an option"?
> >
> 
> Can qemu run the vmware image that I have?  If it can, great!  It's
> not a matter of opinion or open source vs closed source, it's a simple
> matter of using appropriate tools for my particular needs.
> 
> Scott

The vmware filesystem is supported and my vmware images run great.

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wireless question

2006-02-25 Thread dick hoogendijk
Up 'till now all my (home) netwrok computers are cabled.
My FreeBSD-6.1PR is hidden in the closet (I want no noise!)

The problem is my new notebook -- it's wireless. so now I have to learn
how to deal with this.

I don't want my server leaving the closet (too much noise).
Can someone give me some reading pointers on how to tackle this problem?

I.e.: is it possible to connect an wireless access point to my router?
Or is it better to change the router into a wireless router (can
signals go through wooden doors?. It's all very confusing and I'm
willing to learn! ;-)

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lpr -> cups

2006-02-26 Thread dick hoogendijk

I'm thinking of changing my printing system from good-old lpr to cups.
Mainly because my (home) network computers can find the main printer
more easy with cups than with /etc/printcap (windows and os-x machines)

Installing cups should not be too difficult. I have a very goo how2 for
it. However, what about the printing filters?

With lpr I use apsfilter and that works very very well for all kind of
printjobs. Will cups take care of this too? What do I look for as a
replacement for apsfilter then?

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Re: Accesing BSD disk under windows

2006-03-07 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 18:58:50 +0100 (CET)
Nicolas BOUTIER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> thank you again for your answers. I will try with cygwin and I'm
> downloading a Linux LiveCD (oops)... I used to be under Linux more
> time than BSD...

That may be, but it is by far the most powerfull live-cd; knoppix I
mean ;-)

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TFT monitors and Xorg

2006-03-10 Thread dick hoogendijk
Hello,

Probably a stupid question, but I'll take my chances.
For years now I only used "normal" monitors on windows, linux, FreeBSD
but soon I'll get a Samsung 930BF TFT screen.

What I'd like to know is, if Xorg is capable of "seeing" this monitor
and sets the right options. I know it does a good job with other
monitors, but as I understand TFT's are quite different in some
aspects.

Do TFT's use HorizSync and VertRefresh the same way as normal monitors?

Maybe I worry about nothing, but I hope someone will explain things to
me than.

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