Re: telnetd
On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > What purpose is served by the twisty maze of ifdefs in telnetd? I'd > like to unifdef many of them. I'm trying to track down a bug and the > twisty maze makes it very hard to follow. Comments? There seem to be some fairly stupid ones in src/sbin too. ./dump/optr.c:#if __STDC__ ./init/init.c:#ifdef __STDC__ ./newfs/mkfs.c:#ifdef __ELF__ ./newfs/newfs.c:#if __STDC__ ./mount_ntfs/mount_ntfs.c:#if __FreeBSD_version >= 30 [...] how likely are the above to change. (some of them will never change, considering what branch they're on.) - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: replacing grep(1)
On 27 Jul 1999, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > I move that we replace GNU grep in our source tree with this > implementation, once it's been reviewed by all concerned parties. Normally I don't post "me too" messages. I'll make an exception. Me too. -- - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: So, back on the topic of enabling bpf in GENERIC...
On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Ben Rosengart wrote: > > That would mean you can't run a secured DHCP server :( > > I think only the client needs BPF. Anyway, you just start the server in > the rc files, before securelevel is raised. The isc dhcp server doesn't support a -SIGHUP reload, which would mean a reboot everytime you wanted to change the config file. For the average ISP this isn't a problem, for someone who uses dhcp to make configuring servers easier (me) this would suck. However that's an administrator's choice and changing the behavior wouldn't be that difficult. -- - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Mentioning RFC numbers in /etc/services
On Mon, 2 Aug 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > I say that I don't care if it allows this. In fact, I want to be able > to do things like that... Copying the telnet line and changing the first word to 'http' does wonders for being to access machines from inside a school district's firewall. Choosing ports by number would be nice, however the same objections Matt had with changing our API ring some buzzers in my head too, however the evil side of me says "screw whoever is porting inetd, we like functionality. The evil side normally wins. -- - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Mentioning RFC numbers in /etc/services
On Mon, 2 Aug 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > I don't think we should change getportbyname. If the getportbyname > fails, see if a strtol returns a number, and if so use that. I don't > see what is so hard about doing that. I agree. The change should be made in inetd, not in getportbyname() > If someone wants to run a service on a port that it wasn't desinged > for, they can still do it today. I don't see what the argument > against this change could possibly be. There is no evil here. Changing getportbyname() would be, which is what was discussed before. -- - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: TCP stack hackers take a bow
On Tue, 3 Aug 1999, Ted Faber wrote: > http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/08/990802072727.htm The Duke release credits one Andrew Gallatin for a couple quotes. Not only FreeBSD in the news, but one of our own committers. Cool. http://www.dukenews.duke.edu/Research/GIGABIT.HTM -- - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: TCP stack hackers take a bow
On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > It was very annoying that the person who wrote the local News & > Observer article seemed disappointed that we were not running linux & > probably because of that, didn't mention the OS at all in her article. It's sad it has to be that way. I can't think of another product that is treated so poorly in the wake of another's success. "What you broke a land speed record? Well, were you driving a Ford? No, well, we just won't mention that you were driving a Chevy." -- - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: prototypes with __P
On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Matthew Hunt wrote: > I have no idea how much of the FreeBSD code would actually build on > a K&R compiler. Thanks to Bruce, a lot of it. -- - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: cvs
On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <199908061100.haa16...@smtp1.erols.com> John Baldwin writes: > : Perhapas have a group that has write access to all the archive and stick the > : user in that group? That doesn't prevent checkins, however. > > You can do that inside the respository itself. Just try to do a > commit on your local mirror of the FreeBSD respository, for example. cvsup seems to set the wrong attributes after I've forced them to work that way. hawk% ls -l /home/ncvs/src/Makefile,v -r--r--r-- 1 root ncvs 213240 Jul 31 09:47 /home/ncvs/src/Makefile,v If I change the permissions, my next cvsup changes them back. -- - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: cvs
On Sat, 7 Aug 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > In message > Bill Fumerola writes: > : cvsup seems to set the wrong attributes after I've forced them to work > : that way. > > I see this when I cvsup as root too (although the file you quoted > should be r--r--r--. I can't get the modes on the directories to be > 775... That's right. The files are correct and the directories are wrong. I hade a 'find . -type yadda' type script, but it got old applying it every time. -- - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: cvs
On Sat, 7 Aug 1999, Mike Pritchard wrote: > *default umask=002 SetAttrs CVSROOT/commitlogs/other.981201.gz That seems to be doing the trick for everything. Thanks. -- - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: cvs
On Sat, 7 Aug 1999, John Polstra wrote: > > > *default umask=002 > > > > SetAttrs CVSROOT/commitlogs/other.981201.gz > > > > That seems to be doing the trick for everything. Thanks. > > Note, if you would have just _run_ the program with a umask of 2 > then it would have worked too. It honors the umask setting unless > overridden in the supfile. True, I hate changing my umask for different programs. It's nice to have the option to do it in the supfile. -- - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: libcompat proposition
On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > I hate the GPL. It has too many different interpretations. Look at > the currentsituation with Linux: Linus says loadable drivers in Linux > aren't covered by the GPL, while Stallman insists that they are. Its > interpretation is open to too many variables :-(. None of which by anyone with a law degree. -- - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: hey
On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Michael Mannsberger wrote: > ping www.atayatirim.com.tr works under Sun but not in FreeBSD - why? > FreeBSD doesn't like "_" in a URL Uhm, that's a hostname, but yes, FreeBSD doesn't like it. Windows is okay with it, however. http://www.crynwr.com/crynwr/rfc1035/rfc1035.html#2.3.1. However explains why this hostname is not allowed. FreeBSD is not violating RFC. -- - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - hawk% ping wam_notes.internal.chc-chimes.com ping: cannot resolve wam_notes.internal.chc-chimes.com: Unknown server error hawk% dig wam_notes.internal.chc-chimes.com |grep notes ; <<>> DiG 8.1 <<>> wam_notes.internal.chc-chimes.com ;; wam_notes.internal.chc-chimes.com, type = A, class = IN wam_notes.internal.chc-chimes.com. 1D IN CNAME notes.internal.chc-chimes.com. notes.internal.chc-chimes.com. 1D IN A 172.16.81.245 It should be noted that the dns server that my workstation queried is running FreeBSD and has no trouble _serving_ hostnames with an underscore. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Whither makefiles for src/crypto/telnet/* ?
On Sat, 14 Aug 1999, Wilko Bulte wrote: > Yeah... isn't it time you Yanks got together and stormed that Trade Dept? > I mean, if you can get excited over a few wooden crates containing tea... The federal agents carry sub-machine guns, this is less workable now-a-days. -- - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: What does unp stand for?
On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Zhihui Zhang wrote: > In file uipc_usrreq.c, there are many routines beginning with unp_. For > example, unp_connect(), unp_bind(), etc. What does unp stand for? W. Richard Stevens wrote a book Unix Network Programming often refered to by UNP, which includes his improved versions of socket functions. The above could be completly wrong. -- - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: building -STABLE release
On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, Wilko Bulte wrote: > What would be the right releasetag to use in order to build > a 3.2-STABLE 'release' (make release)? Would that be RELENG_3 ? Yes. Though RELENG_3 is a branch tag. > RELENG_3_2_PAO: 1.222.2.4.0.2 > RELENG_3_2_PAO_BP: 1.222.2.4 > RELENG_3_2_0_RELEASE: 1.222.2.4 > RELENG_3_1_0_RELEASE: 1.222.2.1 > RELENG_3: 1.222.0.2 > RELENG_3_BP: 1.222 > > PAO is laptop stuff, BP == ???, RELEASE is obvious. Leaves RELENG_3 I think BP = branchpoint. Look at RELENG_3_BP, it's 1.222, that's when it was split. Look at RELENG_3, it's 1.222.0.2, which would be the second revision of that file since it was branched, I think. -- - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: [freebsdcon] radisson reservation
On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino wrote: > I contacted radisson hotels for FreeBSDCon reservation with > special discount, to get the following email - they don't know > about special rate code "FreeBSDCon". What is the exact code for > reservation? Do any of you have success experience with it? Use 'Walnut Creek CDROM' they know what that means. It would smart of FreeBSDcon to make sure before they put "just mention FreeBSD" that the hotel actually will respond to that. It took me 10 minutes of explanation for the reservation clerk to finally figure out just what the hell I was talking about. WC CDROM did the trick. -- - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: [freebsdcon] radisson reservation
On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, Kenneth D. Merry wrote: > Unfortunately, you have to call the local hotel to get reservations, and > not the toll-free national hotline. The hotel in Berkeley doesn't have a > toll free number, so after sitting on hold with the Berkeley Radission for > 15 minutes, burning long distance money, I decided to call the national > reservations hotline. They told me I had to call the reservations desk at > the Berkeley Radission. I called the 800 number in the FreeBSDcon brochure, it worked fine. Regretfully, I now won't be attending the conference so now I get to find out just how well they cancel reservations. -- - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Are certain parts of kernel not using suser() when they should?
On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Ryan wrote: > Grepping through the kernel source tree, one finds these 12 files that use > "uid == 0" checks instead of the usual suser(). There may be more than one > instance per function/macro: [...] > Is there a reason for these checks not to use suser? No. Eivind Eklund was working this according the FreeBSD projects page (eiv...@freebsd.org). I don't know the implication of this, would this impact phk's jail routines? -- - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: HEADS UP Reviewers. VFS changes to be committed.
On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > Also, I'd suggest that it's a bad idea to say "if I get no feedback > before tonight, I'm committing". I think this applies even if it's not > the first time you've asked for review. Basically, timezones and stuff > make for a situation where such an e-mail is useless for many of your > readers. This would be post #3 of the same code and changes that no-one has reponded to. -- - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: L440GX+ Server Board
On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Luiz Morte da Costa Junior wrote: > > The onboard NIC works like any other Intel 10/100 using fxp0, adding a > > asecond nic makes the onboard fxp1 (for failover purposes, I assume) > > I think that I don't have problem with my NIC (Intel 10/100). The bus that the onboard NIC is on probably gets probed later then then the expansion bus. -- - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: PCI modems do not work???
On Mon, 6 Sep 1999, Doug Rabson wrote: > > SIO doesn't support anything but isa attachments right now. Its probe > > and attach routines need to be corrected to not be ISA specific. > > I think I will tackle that soon. You'd be my (and a lot of other people's) hero. -- - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Init(8) cannot decrease securelevel
On Tue, 7 Sep 1999, Nick Hibma wrote: > Anyway, as soon as you can physically access the PC, youD loose anyway, > independent of whether you can go into DDB to do things. You can reboot, > boot a floppy. Yes you can do something about those things, but only to > a limited extent. Not without someone noticing in a big way. DDB is a silent attack. -- - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: More press
[redirected to -advocacy where this belonged first off] On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Chris D. Faulhaber wrote: > There is a short but sweet[1] article on ZDNet today regarding FreeBSD: > > http://www.zdnet.com/zdtv/screensavers/answerstips/story/0,3656,2324624,00.html > > Not too in-depth, but it gives a good quick overview, calling FreeBSD a > true Unix, emphasizing it's history compared to Linux.
Re: Native Applixware for FreeBSD -- When?
On Mon, 10 May 1999, Alex Zepeda wrote: > What?! Since when? Look at how stable FreeBSD has remained. > Occasionally a recompile or somesuch to adjust to different sized > structures, as opposed to the rabid source tweaking required regularly by > the libc5 to libc6 to libc6.1 changes necesitated by Linux's "progressive > attitude". How often do I see a author make a program and release _one_ FreeBSD binary and about 5 different binaries depending on what linux libc format you have. We're considerably more stable then that other OS. - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: FreeBSD native xanim (was Re: Native Applixware for FreeBSD -- When? )
On Tue, 11 May 1999, Ted Faber wrote: > >It just occurs to me that a list of people prepared to offer compilation > >environments to people who insist in distributing binaries might be helpful. > > I think that's a good idea. Is there some human at FreeBSD who would > be willing to keep track of such a list and put it on a web page? Or > is there too little cost/benefit? If there is enough people, I'll make a FAQ entry. - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: a two-level port system? (fwd)
On Mon, 31 May 1999, Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami wrote: > It seems to me that you guys are arguing about a problem that doesn't > really exist. Or at least all ideas proposed so far seem to hurt more > than help. ;) Agreed. This whole discussion, I feel, is silly. This is change for the sake of change. - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: a two-level port system? (fwd)
On Mon, 31 May 1999, Max Khon wrote: > > @ Version control. Can you check out an arbitrary version of any > > file? I want to do something like "give me the changes in > > Makefile between yesterday and today". > > It's hard to check out the port for an arbitrary version of program. Not really. > E.g.: try to check out port for samba 1.9.18p10 $ cvs co -D 08/29/98 samba works for me on freefall. - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: a two-level port system? (fwd)
On Mon, 31 May 1999, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > I am primarily concerned with that, and secondly with mainteinance > issues when you have a new/updated port, you generally need to touch > the Makefile and one or more files in pkg, and the info in pkg/* is > often the same comments you would put at the beginning of the makefile. Yes, but this would be a PITA for package building and parsing. Please understand (everyone) that there is more to the ports tree then building a port by hand. The web pages are built from the structure, pkg_* depends on files being there (and not having to parse a single file). - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: a two-level port system? (fwd)
On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Max Khon wrote: > I have very (VERY!) bad link to anoncvs.freebsd.org. are there other > anoncvs servers? Not to my knowledge, though FreeBSD.org has a few co-located machines, I'm sure one could run an anoncvs mirror. - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: a two-level port system? (fwd)
On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Eivind Eklund wrote: > There are a number of solutions available: > (1) Change 'make release' to scan the ports collection and create an > mtree file beforehand; apply the mtree file before extracting the > collection. This will make the inode layout more efficient. I think this is a very realistic, easy thing to do. Maybe I'll work on a patch.. - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: a two-level port system?
On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Darryl Okahata wrote: > - No need to CVS commit ar files. (BTW, CVS can also handle binary > files, so ASCII vs. binary is a non-issue.) CVS handles binary files poorly. It is an issue. - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: DE driver in RELENG_3 vs RELENG_2_2
On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, Greg Skafte wrote: > As a side note OSICOM has just released a quad intel 82558 card. I wasn't able to get the dual card(From Intel) to work. I'd like to hear of anyone who gets the OSICOM card to work. - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: DE driver in RELENG_3 vs RELENG_2_2
On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > Many other people have insisted that the dual card works fine; Compaq > also have a dual card that appears upgradeable to a quad, also using > the Intel 82558 parts. The dual card probes fine for me. I just couldn't put any traffic over it ever. (tcpdump never saw any either) Perhaps I'll dust off the card and toss it in a test machine and whine louder and try more obscure things this time. - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: 3.2-stable, panic #12
On Fri, 4 Jun 1999, Brian Somers wrote: > The system was becoming unstable due to Matts changes. Whether the > instabilities were in Matts code or somewhere else is irrelevent. > The reaction was (IMHO) the right thing to do. I think where the problem lied is very relevent. If the problems are not his fault are you saying he should have backed out his changes because they exposed old faulty code? What kind of progress is that? - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Kernel config script
On Fri, 4 Jun 1999, Motoyuki Konno wrote: > But what about new-bus? newbus was well announced. any FreeBSD committer was extended newbus commit privledges as well. The cvs tree was public as well. - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: 3.2-stable, panic #12
On Fri, 4 Jun 1999, Greg Black wrote: > Generally speaking, it's a good idea to make sure that test code > is at least decent before starting to puzzle over what it does. Regardless. These are the things exploits are made of. - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: linux and freebsd kernels conceptually different?
On Thu, 10 Jun 1999, Bill Huey wrote: > There definite technical problems with Linux, but it doesn't seem > to measure up to the level of criticism that I've seen directed > at it because the source tree is a consistently moving target. s#moving#wreckless# - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: linux and freebsd kernels conceptually different?
On Fri, 11 Jun 1999, Marius Bendiksen wrote: > > > at it because the source tree is a consistently moving target. > > s#moving#wreckless# > s/wreckless/reckless/. > > wreckless is most certainly not true ;) I hate when I make spelling errors that change the entire message. :< - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: [Call for review] init(8): new feature
On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > While the -core is busy to review/approve this patch, > I would like to know your opinion. What do you think > of it? The sysv init should probably be off by default. - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Typo: sys/pci/pcisupport.c
On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Daniel Baker wrote:
> 4.0-CURRENT: sys/pci/pcisupport.c:
>
> 955:/* VIA Technologies -- vendor 0x1106 &/
> 956:case 0x05861106: /* south bridge section */
> 957:return ("VIA 82C586 PCI-ISA bridge");
>
> This is cute. Moo.
Fixed. Thanks.
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Re: vi(1) is for whimps
On 22 Jun 1999, Jesus Monroy wrote: > vi(1) is for whimps > http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lab/1986/viforwhimps.html As long as you're critiquing people for what you called (paraphrased) "a smiley that made you sound insincere", I guess I'll point out that the word is "wimps". - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
tcpdump(1) additions.
[bcc to committers, replys to hackers] Unless there is strong feelings against it, I'd like to commit the smb patches (as seen on www.samba.org) and ipsec/ike patches (recently mailed to the tcpdump mailing list and b...@freebsd.org) to tcpdump(1). Comments? - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: tcpdump(1) additions.
On Wed, 30 Jun 1999, Pierre Beyssac wrote: > On Tue, Jun 29, 1999 at 06:54:06PM -0400, Bill Fumerola wrote: > > Unless there is strong feelings against it, I'd like to commit the smb > > patches (as seen on www.samba.org) > > Could you elaborate some more about the SMB patches? I've been to > www.samba.org but it's not obvious to me what's in there for FreeBSD > (except for samba itself). They decode the SMB (windows share) protocol. They are GPLd, but there is always the possibility of convincing the author to re-release them. > > > and ipsec/ike patches (recently mailed > > to the tcpdump mailing list and b...@freebsd.org) to tcpdump(1). > > > > Comments? > > The IPSEC/IKE stuff for tcpdump seems like a great thing to have! Agreed. They have the BSD license as well. - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: tcpdump(1) additions.
On Wed, 30 Jun 1999, Julian Elischer wrote: > It would make sense except that the last time someone tried, some people > complained that it made it too easy to sniff passwords etc. I would bet there are a million other programs on rootshell or other such sites that do just that. If someone has compromised root on one machine, evidently security already isn't a concern for them. - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: tcpdump(1) additions.
On Wed, 30 Jun 1999, David O'Brien wrote: > On Tue, Jun 29, 1999 at 06:54:06PM -0400, Bill Fumerola wrote: > > Unless there is strong feelings against it, I'd like to commit the smb > > patches (as seen on www.samba.org) > > Cool! I've been meaning to do this for quite some time. HOWEVER, please > reference this PGP signed email (I'll send you the full copy) in the > commit message: Excellent. > Note that the Tcpdump patches from www.samba.org are under the GPL. > Andrew Tridgell also warned: > > I should warn you though that there are some security issues with my > tcpdump-smb patches. It is possible for a malicious user to put > packets on the wire that will cause a buffer overflow in the SMB > parser in that code. That could lead to a root exploit. > > I just haven't got around to fixing it yet. Hmmm.. but a non-superuser never sees any of those malicious packets, and the program is not installed suid, so how would that happen? - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: tcpdump(1) additions.
On 30 Jun 1999, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > Bill Fumerola writes: > > Unless there is strong feelings against it, I'd like to commit the smb > > patches (as seen on www.samba.org) and ipsec/ike patches (recently mailed > > to the tcpdump mailing list and b...@freebsd.org) to tcpdump(1). > > Will they be included in a future official release of tcpdump? Can we > afford to wait until then, and simply merge in the next release when > it comes? I thought of that, and I believe Julian said that patches sent to the tcpdump mailing list seem to never get into the distribution or something to that effect. Correct me if I'm wrong. - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: how to start to be a hacker?
On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, G. Adam Stanislav wrote: > On Thu, Jul 01, 1999 at 08:17:59AM -0700, haodong...@netease.com wrote: > > I know the basic admin knowledge of UNIX,perl,cgi,c > > how to become a hacker? > > You either are a hacker, or you are not. It is not something someone else > can teach you. This deserves a FAQ entry. What an awesome response. - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
eBay Listing confirmation - Item 125965474: Jordan K. Hubbard (fwd)
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Re: Pictures from USENIX
On Sun, 4 Jul 1999, Wilko Bulte wrote: > Which makes a good case for a permanent picture gallery @ www.freebsd.org > I guess. I can donate a bunch of pictures taken at last year's > hackersparty here in the Netherlands. When FreeBSDcon comes closer, I'll probably be be asking which of the developers are coming to it. I'm going to try to get some large group photos etc etc. - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Pictures from USENIX
On Sun, 4 Jul 1999, David McNett wrote: > Far from frivolous, I think that things like this will go a long way > to dispel the common misconception that FreeBSD is developed by a > small, closed, and unapproachable cadre of monks. Shouldn't be too > unwieldy, assuming you don't also choose to include the cats of the > core team as well. It also clears up the misconception that being a member of -core requires a beard. A constant 5 o'clock shadow, maybe, but not a beard. - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Pictures from USENIX
On Mon, 5 Jul 1999, Greg Lehey wrote: > > It also clears up the misconception that being a member of -core requires > > a beard. > > > > A constant 5 o'clock shadow, maybe, but not a beard. > > And what's wrong with a beard? Nothing. I just remember someone pointing out in a previous e-mail that all the core members had some sort of beard. - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
re: 'rtfm script'
I'm in favor of the rtfm script. It's amazing the positive things that come out of an offhand IRC comment. [ from http://www.emsphone.com/FreeBSD/log.cgi/19990704.txt ] [15:29] tribune: yes, RTFM. [15:29] we need rtfm(1) [15:30] rtfm(1) would search the man pages, FAQ, and handbook for the COMPLETLY clueless. [15:31] billf: that rtfm command, I might write one. maybe it'll get people to shut the hell up ;) [15:32] It'd be easy to do in Perl. [15:32] cmc: I'd import it for you. [15:32] rtfm would work good.. in perl even [15:32] have it translate between "rtfm subject" and "rtfm subject(1)" [15:33] First it'll search the man pages. Then the handbook. Then the FAQ. Then, maybe see if I can find out if they start bitching, and if so, email Jesus Monroy. At that point the converstaion turned to talking about Irish soap carving and the fact that www.OpenBSD.org doesn't run OpenBSD. I guess I was wrong about IRC being positive. - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: 'rtfm' script
On Mon, 5 Jul 1999, Alex Zepeda wrote: > P.S. If you're looking for an easy to use regexp implementation, and > aren't afraid of C++, check out Qt; if you're looking for more of a > challenge, there's always the need for an rtsl(1) ;) rtsl(1) = glimpse(1) :> - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: 'rtfm' script
On Tue, 6 Jul 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote: > Thanks! But still, I don't think rtfm is very appropriate... Can we look > for something better, more obvious? Or perhaps it would be in the motd > like /stand/sysinstall is people would need to be aware of this. it can be called anything. the new user isn't going to know it unless refered to it. (or unless there is a question mark to click) - bill fumerola - bi...@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfume...@computerhorizons.com - bi...@freebsd.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Kernel Hacking (i tried not to make it lame)
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 01:31:50PM +0100, Koster, K.J. wrote:
> I think Yahoo! is using still on 2.2.8. There are some people on this list
> who work for Yahoo!, so you could try to drop them a line. I can imagine
> that they are interested in softupdates.
I'd imagine that just upgrading machines to recent versions of FreeBSD
would be just as easy as trying to push out that kind of update.
I'd encourage all others who are looking for softupdates in 2.2.8 to
just upgrade to 4.2-{RELEASE,STABLE}.
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Re: catching ip packets from module
On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 07:32:13PM +0400, Eugene L. Vorokov wrote:
> Hello,
>
> can please someone enlighten me how can a module catch ip packets before
> they actually enter the stack, the way ipfw or ipf does ? I tried to look
> at the sources, but ipfw seems to do it some very specific way which
> is based on some in-kernel hacks to make it possible (ofcourse correct me
> if I'm wrong), and ipf does so many things at startup so I can't figure
> out which function does what :( I just want to add my handler so that
> all packets would be passed to it before entering the kernel ...
the way ipfw or ipf does? by adding hacks^H^H^H^Hooks into ip_{in,out}put()
search for ip_fw_chk_ptr and fr_checkp, those are the money functions.
everything else is just setup and reaction.
as far as non-hacks that do similar things, as alfred points out netgraph
is probably the most modular way to drop in raw-frame-needing-module-X.
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Re: TX buffer in 4.3
[ not -hackers material, moved to questions ] On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 01:53:43PM -0700, Randy -Harborside Internet wrote: > We are having a problem with our mail server. It recently got > upgraded to 4.3 from 4.2, and now it is having problems with the TX > buffer somehow on the network card. Every once in awhile it will shut > off all network traffic and give these errors: > no memory for tx listrl0 > Then in a few minutes (presumably when the buffer is flushed somehow) > the network device resumes normal operation. s#flushed#drained# > We have tried 3 different NICs, and all have had the same problem. > The three models were: > 1. Realtek RTL8139A 10/100TX rl(4): rl%d: no memory for tx list The driver failed to allocate an mbuf for the transmitter ring when allocating a pad buffer or collapsing an mbuf chain into a cluster. > 2. Intel chipset:82558B fxp(4): fxp%d: Failed to malloc memory There are not enough mbuf's available for allocation. > 3. 3Com somethingerather. I'll assume you mean the etherlink(3c905) chips... xl(4): xl%d: no memory for tx list The driver failed to allocate an mbuf for the transmitter ring when allocating a pad buffer or collapsing an mbuf chain into a cluster. > We are running with 512MB of RAM, and it usually has about 200 or > more megs free at the time of this occurance. Which doesn't matter if you don't allocate enough memory to the mbuf subsystem. See below. > Is this a problem with the network drivers in 4.3? Or something else > that can be corrected? (Manual way to flush the network card > buffers??) Flush the network card buffers? That really wouldn't help anything. > Here is the output of ulimit -a, just in case that helps. It doesn't. If you look at the output of 'netstat -m' you'll see you've run mbufs (well, mbuf clusters) and that is whats causing this problem. The "requests for memory" lines will show you how many times this has bitten you in the proverbial ass. options NMBCLUSTERS is your friend. -- Bill Fumerola - security yahoo / Yahoo! inc. - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral
On Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 02:55:55PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Nothing BSDi ever did made any sense, so why does this suprise you? The fact > that BSDi didnt nothing positive for FreeBSD doesnt surprise me at all. Luckily, with this post to the mailing list you can join the ranks of doing nothing positive for the project. Congrats! In case you didn't know (which you probably don't, being an ignorant flamebait poster and all), BSDi: employed many talented developers, funded or subsidized various *BSD support events, donated hardware for *.FreeBSD.org, sent numerous volunteer developers to conferences at zero or low cost, and distributed quite a bit of hardware to developers who otherwise wouldn't have proper test environments. Thats just to name a few things... WRS still is doing many of the things that WCCDROM/BSDi did for the project and the ones that they've stopped doing should simply look like a good opportunity to others who want to step up in the community. -- Bill Fumerola / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps. even ignoring the improper punctuation, "didnt nothing positive" is improper English, in the future you might want to use a phrase like "did not do anything positive" or "did nothing positive". hope this helps. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: mbuf re-write(s), v 0.1
On Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 03:20:22PM -0400, Bosko Milekic wrote: > > Considering the prominence of DoS attacks and similar, I think it > > makes a lot of sense to be able to free the memory again, and if > > the hysteresis you have built in means that there is no measurable > > performance impact I think you will face no objections. > > That was one of the reasons of writing. Oh, and there's something I > forgot to mention previously. The code I presently have frees memory > dedicated to mbufs, so obviously, it's significant, but it's even > more significant in the case of mbuf clusters, as they are larger. I > still haven't finished writing the cluster stuff though but expect it > to be similar in concept and design. Just to add a little real worldness here: I'd love to have FreeBSD be able to reclaim memory quicker at the sacrifice of a few cpu cycles. Why? Well, the "add more memory" arguement doesn't work well when I get DoS attacks that will eat any memory available because they can connect quicker then I can reclaim the memory. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect / Computer Horizons Corp - CHIMES e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
data corruption
-hackers,
This is the most fucked up thing I've ever experienced with FreeBSD:
[hawk-billf] /home/billf/helpdesk > ls
./ ../ Makefilehdesk.c
[hawk-billf] /home/billf/helpdesk > cd ..
[hawk-billf] /home/billf > ls hdesk
ls: hdesk: No such file or directory
[hawk-billf] /home/billf > cp -pRP helpdesk hdesk
[hawk-billf] /home/billf > cd hdesk
[hawk-billf] /home/billf/hdesk > ls
./ Makefilehdesk.c
../ hdesk* hdesk.o
Note that hdesk and hdesk.o suddenly came back from the dead.
It works in reverse, every now and then when running
$ echo "test" | ./hdesk
it will fail like so:
75203 ktrace CALL execve(0xbfbffb53,0xbfbffa48,0xbfbffa50)
75203 ktrace NAMI "./hdesk"
75203 ktrace RET execve -1 errno 2 No such file or directory
but if I run it again, it may work. the files are just appearing
and reappearing.
Another example:
[hawk-billf] /home/billf/helpdesk > make clean
rm -f hdesk hdesk.o
[hawk-billf] /home/billf/helpdesk > ls
./ Makefilehdesk.c ktrace.out
../ hdesk* hdesk.o
hdesk and hdesk.o have been removed, but they are still hanging around.
If I copy the directories around (or move) them, I experience the same
oddity. If I make a whole new directory structure and
$ cat hdesk.c > /tmp/hdesk.c
$ cat Makefile /tmp/Makefile
$ mkdir notwhacked
$ cp /tmp/{hdesk.c,Makefile} notwhacked
the behavior goes away.
Someone tell me I'm wrong here...
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cocaine snorting reported in Michigan, details at 11 (was Re: data corruption)
On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 04:08:24PM -0400, Bill Fumerola wrote: > PS. No, it's not something stupid like file flags or something. No, it was something even stupider. Completely ignore this. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect / Computer Horizons Corp - CHIMES e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: cocaine snorting reported in Michigan, details at 11 (was Re: data corruption)
On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 05:57:56PM -0700, Peter Wemm wrote: > > > PS. No, it's not something stupid like file flags or something. > > > > No, it was something even stupider. Completely ignore this. > > Oh, come on now, tell us the details! :-) It involves this running in another window: [hawk-billf] $ while `true`; do make clean; sleep 5; make; sleep 5; done It was done as a joke before I left last weekend; I opened a bunch of eterms and looped some pings, traceroutes, compiles, etc and the joke was that as long as I did that it looked like I did as much work as other, uhm, less motivated, cow-orkers. I fully expect to be physically assulted by all who I encounter the next time I'm in California for this act of stupidity. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect / Computer Horizons Corp - CHIMES e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Make world in "traditional make-mode"
On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 03:46:52AM +0200, Leif Neland wrote: > Is there an option in make world to work like a traditional make works? > i.e. just recompile if the source has changed. -DNOCLEAN is as close as you're going to get, probably. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect / Computer Horizons Corp - CHIMES e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: cocaine snorting reported in Michigan, details at 11 (was Re: data corruption)
On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 08:46:10AM -0400, Michael Lucas wrote: > > I fully expect to be physically assulted by all who I encounter the > > next time I'm in California for this act of stupidity. > > Physically assaulted? No, why do that when we can point and laugh? > It's legal, and much more devastating. > > Just noticed you're in Michigan. Are you aware of any Michigan > FreeBSD groups? I've been looking around Detroit for a while, and > haven't found any. There was talks of starting a Southeastern Michigan group, but most of us around here are too lazy to actually do it. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect / Computer Horizons Corp - CHIMES e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: cocaine snorting reported in Michigan, details at 11 (was Re: data corruption)
[ moved to -advocacy from -hackers ] On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 11:51:29AM -0400, Bush Doctor wrote: > > I keep mentioning to bill and others on irc from michigan that someone > > should start one :p > Well if anyone is ever down East Lansing way, a couple of co-workers > and I have an informal group. Everyone is more than welcome to come > here or maybe we could meet somewhere in between ... There's also a large OpenBSD assembly of people at UofM. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect / Computer Horizons Corp - CHIMES e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: subscribe alexey@nsl.ru
On Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 07:19:26PM -0500, Mike Silbersack wrote: > And majordomo is, as always, confusing and in dire need of replacement. Every Nth time this happens we all wonder why postmaster doesn't just add a filter that catches 99% of these and bounce them. Then we all forget and wait for N more people to do it and complain about it again. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
On Sat, Aug 12, 2000 at 12:03:15PM -0700, FengYue wrote: > Hi, I need to drop packets using ipfw based on the value of > TTL and the value of TTL on a 2.2.8-stable system. It seems > ipfw does not support this, what options do I have? I can write this, but you're going to have to upgrade to 4.x-stable or 5.0-current to get it once I'm done. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
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On Sat, Aug 12, 2000 at 12:06:24PM -0700, FengYue wrote: > > Hi, I need to drop packets using ipfw based on the value of > > TTL and the value of TTL on a 2.2.8-stable system. It seems > ^^^ > I meant SYN Okay, then I already wrote this and just haven't committed it. I will within the next week, but again, you'll have to upgrade to 5.x/4.x -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: code question...
On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 02:10:16PM -0700, Chris Ptacek wrote: > I am getting a warning from a program I wrote: > > lined in free(): warning: chunk is already free. > > Is there anyway I can figure out where exactly this is happening, maybe > cause a core or something. >From 'man free', which you did read twice, right? (in reference to malloc.conf...) A All warnings (except for the warning about unknown flags being set) become fatal. The process will call abort(3) in these cas- es. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
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On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 06:44:28PM -0400, Bruce Petro wrote: > Is this similar to the following kernel configuration? > options TCP_DROP_SYNFIN #drop TCP packets with SYN+FIN Not at all. The original poster is looking to drop all packets with a certain tcp syn#, where the TCP_DROP_SYNFIN option (and you must turn on the corresponding sysctl for it to be enabled) drops all packets with both the "syn" and "fin" flags set. functionally equivalent to: ipfw add drop tcp from any to any tcpflags syn,fin -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Anyway to ipfw filter based on MAC address?
On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 07:02:03PM -0700, Jaye Mathisen wrote: > > Just exactly what I said in the Subject. I want to filter on the ethernet > MAC address. I guess the "ip" in "ipfw" just wasn't obvious enough that it is an IP firewall tool. You're one layer too low. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: I know this isn't the right place to ask this, but...
On Thu, Jul 13, 2000 at 09:19:24PM -0700, Frank Mayhar wrote: > ...there are so many excessively bright and experienced minds on this list > I can't imagine a _better_ place to ask it. My ISP (for whom I consult > from time to time) is looking into Layer 4 Gigabit Ethernet; he needs > some idea of the quality of various switches out there. If anyone here > has recommendations or experiences with such switches, please email me > directly (off-list). I would be, well, not _eternally_ in your debt, > but I'll stand you a drink at BSDCon. Layer 4 gigabit? I can't even begin to imagine what you or he mean by that. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect / Computer Horizons Corp - CHIMES e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: We need your old laptop for a committer...
On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 05:41:00PM +, Dan Evensen wrote: > I would say that this is untraditional to say the least. It does not belong > on the list. There are millions of promising people in such a need. > > Dan Evensen CCNA Wan Switching You're a moron. Thanks. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Getting Linux NIS to work with FreeBSD NIS servers
On Sun, Oct 15, 2000 at 10:23:05PM -0500, Stephen Hocking wrote: > The Linux box appears toknow about the users, it just cant get the passwords > right - something tickles my mind about DES vs MD5, is this the case, and how > do I convert my MD5 passwords if needed? Yes thats the case, no there is no "conversion" program. If there was a conversion program it would mean there is a way to translate to plaintext and that obviously isn't the case (modulo brute-force). -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Getting Linux NIS to work with FreeBSD NIS servers
On Sun, Oct 15, 2000 at 10:39:59PM -0500, Peter Avalos wrote: > Actually Linux machines "can" handle MD5 passwords. Most likely, the problem > is that you haven't merged the hashed passwords into the passwd.* maps. I stand corrected. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: question for the freebsd community
On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 10:20:23AM -0700, Michelle R. Sanchez, CNE wrote: > 1] is it a good idea to try to put a service monitor on IPFW? If so, > does this compromise the firewall in any way? Yes, it could be beneficial, if its done right it isn't a compromise. > i am not a firewall expert by any means but i think that you would not > want to take this approach. our service monitor tries to connect to the > application once per second or by some user-definable interval. If you wanted to get tricky, you could use icmp response codes to do what you want. Make a rule like: ipfw add unreach host-unknown tcp from somemonitoringmachine to yourfirewall someunusedport# (you can use an unused icmp unreach code for this as well.) open a connection to that machine (on that port) and you should get that icmp message back. you can do this with icmp as well: [hawk-root] /sys/netinet # ipfw sh 00100 0 0 unreach host-prohib icmp from any to 172.16.81.69 icmptype 8 65510 173 14654 allow ip from any to any 65535 0 0 deny ip from any to any [elk-billf] /home/billf > ping hawk PING hawk.internal.chc-chimes.com (172.16.81.69): 56 data bytes 36 bytes from hawk.internal.chc-chimes.com (172.16.81.69): Dest Unreachable, Bad Code: 10 Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst 4 5 00 6800 55d4 0 ff 01 ec9f 172.16.81.77 172.16.81.69 36 bytes from hawk.internal.chc-chimes.com (172.16.81.69): Dest Unreachable, Bad Code: 10 Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst 4 5 00 6800 58d4 0 ff 01 ec9c 172.16.81.77 172.16.81.69 Tada. If your firewall is "down" then the response wouldn't be a unreach with code 10. This may be considered hackish, but it also may be considered pretty damn slick. > 2] someone once suggested to monitor the port that the 'console' uses to > talk to the firewall if you are trying to configure it remotely. would > this be recommended? does it mean leaving the 'console' up all the time? The console is either your VGA/keyboard or a serial console depending on how you configure it. It is wise to either be really good at firewall rules or have some sort of out of band access to the firewall. > 3] is there a configuration that could be made where the firewall would > allow a tcp connection to be made by a specific IP address only - > without any compromise? if so, how can this be done. If you want _just_ those rules do this: ipfw add allow tcp from goodhost to mymachine portnumber setup ipfw add allow tcp from any to any established ipfw add deny tcp from any to mymachine portnumber If you already have rules, those 3 lines will go in different sections of your firewall. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Time to close the list?
On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 01:28:09AM -0800, Alex Belits wrote: > Some places with not-so-nice connectivity to the rest of the Internet > use local lists to distribute this list among users -- this is why there > are messages with no to:/cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the first place. And > it will do nothing for autoresponders because autoresponder may happen to > be subscribed directly just like anything else. So, real solutions are: Also when moving a discussion from one mailing list to another, most people use: To: freebsd-newlist Cc: all the people who were in the thread Bcc: freebsd-oldlist [ moving discussion -newlist ] etc -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: mbuf allocation error
[ don't cross post, followups to hackers (was on stable) ] On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 11:23:27AM +, Kaltashkin Eugene wrote: > #netstat -m > 567/2176/4096 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): > 317 mbufs allocated to data > 250 mbufs allocated to packet headers > 296/1024/1024 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) > > where i can increase amount of mbuf ? > sysctl say what this variables is readonly :( options NMBCLUSTERS=8192 or whatever in your kernel. or kern.ipc.nmbclusters="8192"# Set the number of mbuf clusters in /boot/loader.conf -- Bill Fumerola - Lame Duck, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: APACHE PROBLEMS (fwd)
On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 02:05:16PM -0800, Dan Phoenix wrote: > > nfs:/lopt /optnfs -2,-T,-i,rw 0 > 0 > nfs:/cache /cache nfs -2,-T,-i,rw 0 > 0 > > those are my mount options from /etc/fstab. > as you can see i have it forced on version 2 with tcp and allow > interuption in read-write mode. -i does not seem to work with solaris... > tcp instead of udp did not seem to help.and version 2 vs 3 does not > seem to make a difference. There is a lock happening somewhere and it has > to be solved.I am doing a make world right now hoping the new nfs code > will help but all I am doing is crossing my fingers. Only the freebsd > machines have problems like this. I am already at 4.2 with latest src from > about a week ago!!! try -s as well. you're more likely not to die (and rather just fail) with bad NFS going on. this entire thread was probably more appropriately located on [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Bill Fumerola - security yahoo / Yahoo! inc. - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Minicom freebsd howto!
On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 02:54:19PM -0800, Dan Phoenix wrote: > Enter the number X from cuaaX above : cuaa0 > Error: /dev/cuaacuaa0 doesn't exist. > *** Error code 1 Read what it says: "ENTER THE NUMBER". Does it say "enter the entire name of the device"? > i take it from ports collection we need to specify /dev/sio0? is it? No. -- Bill Fumerola - security yahoo / Yahoo! inc. - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS. This too would be appropriate for [EMAIL PROTECTED], hackers isn't tech support. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: M_ZERO patches.
On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 01:28:12PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Can someone email me with a brief explaination of this M_ZERO path? > I see it is about something to do with memory (malloc, bcopy, etc.) http://docs.FreeBSD.org/, search the mail archives. phk posted a summary of the feature when he introduced it. -- Bill Fumerola - security yahoo / Yahoo! inc. - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: APACHE PROBLEMS (fwd)
[ my one and only post to hackers(bcc:'d) on this thread ] On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 04:07:35PM -0800, Dan Phoenix wrote: > > > Ya, ok let;s stop this childish game already...stupid of me > to stoop to his level. > I appologise formally to anyone that took offence. The administration of irc.freebsd.org can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] who I believe already gave you a response. Secondly, irc.freebsd.org is provided as a public service (aka a free service): overall keep in mind your this server is a privilege, NOT A RIGHT. more specific, your connection can be terminated at the sole discretion of the operator staff. ... which is in the MOTD when you connect to the server. Thanks, -- Bill Fumerola - security yahoo / Yahoo! inc. - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Tun driver?
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 08:00:18AM -0800, Dan "Mahir" Phoenix wrote:
> what you mean device side?
> you mean server side?
He meant exactly what he said:
[billf.yahoo-root 16:26:00]
< /dev # ifconfig tun0
ifconfig: interface tun0 does not exist
[billf.yahoo-root 16:26:09]
< /dev # dd if=/dev/tun0 of=/dev/null count=0
0+0 records in
0+0 records out
0 bytes transferred in 0.14 secs (0 bytes/sec)
[billf.yahoo-root 16:26:18]
< /dev # ifconfig tun0
tun0: flags=8010 mtu 1500
[billf.yahoo-root 16:26:20]
< /dev #
Some program needs to open() the device for it to register.
The following snippet of code (around line 155 of sys/net/if_tun.c)
is relevant:
tp = dev->si_drv1;
if (!tp) {
tuncreate(dev);
tp = dev->si_drv1;
}
.. and tuncreate() sets up the device and if_attach()s the driver,
which makes it appear in the list ifconfig works off of.
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Re: kernel type
On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 06:37:56PM -0800, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > It's hardly arbitrary, though the jury's still out as to whether it's > misguided or not. You may remember that Apple bought a little company > called NeXT a few years back. Well, that company's people had a lot > to do with the OS design of OS X and let's not forget the design of > NeXTStep. ... and how currently popular they[NeXT] are. ;-> -- Bill Fumerola - security yahoo / Yahoo! inc. - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: FreeBSD vs Linux, Solaris, and NT
[ move this to -chat from -hackers ] On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 12:25:43PM -0500, Dennis wrote: > did you even read my comments, you blubbering moron? lol. I said NOTHING > about theft. Zero. I guess you dont read english very well. FYI - I bought LanMedia's cards instead of ETinc's because I find you (for posts like the above as well as horror stories from customers) to be a Grade-A douche bag. I also found that the (open source) driver for the card was written by the aforementioned "blubbering moron" who I find to be a source of help when I have problems, unlike the dissatisfied customers of yours who fill the mail archives. -- Bill Fumerola - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS. Poul-Henning is more proficient in English then 95% of the native speakers I run into on a daily basis. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: ssh - are you nuts?!?
On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 02:00:54AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > It is possible. It is not trivial. > > > What leads you to believe that it's not trival? A functioning brain. -- Bill Fumerola - security yahoo / Yahoo! inc. - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS. I liked it better when you trolled advocacy, it was much easier to unsubscribe from that. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: ssh - are you nuts?!?
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 08:04:20AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > You are complaining to the wrong audience. Talk to [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > not the FreeBSD user community. > > > I disagree with your statement. > > >From what I'm reading, it seems that "the enforcement of policy" > has been lacking of that current policies need revamping. > > If the former is the case, then the new SO has his work > cut out for him. It is impossible for you[or anyone not on committers/developers] to: 1) know the policies 2) know the specifics of the incidents that are being discussed 3) have read any of the mail regarding the incidents The FreeBSD admins do an excellent job and I've never felt insecure because of their policies. Please end this thread now, it doesn't belong on the public mailing lists. > If the later is the case, then his complaint merits attention, > and immediate action. Mind you I'm not suggesting this > change. However, one of my counter-proposals to SSH > (to be given at the talk) is the "enforcement of policy". > And to wit, if said policy is weak, then the underlying structure > (or framework) should be expected of similar condition. I can't find a point in the above paragraph besides "bad stuff is bad." -- Bill Fumerola - security yahoo / Yahoo! inc. - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: FreeBSD vs Linux, Solaris, and NT
On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 11:44:34AM -0500, Dennis wrote: > At 05:14 PM 12/19/2000, you wrote: > >On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 12:25:43PM -0500, Dennis wrote: > > >Am I a thief because my company provides value added solutions without > > >source to our enhancements on a freebsd platform? If you are insulted that > > >other people are using your work without paying for it then it sounds like > > >you dont fit in very well with the "open source" community Mr. Kamp. > > > >This brings about a question I have been wondering about for quite some > >time: How do you submit binary-only code to the ports collection? I just > >re-read the porters' handbook, and it seems to be assuming that you will > >always release source code for everything. But I am thinking about porting > >some of my Windows software to FreeBSD, yet, I do not want to release the > >source code (since much of it is the same I *sell* to Windows users in > >binary-only form). > > > >Then again, I may decide not to do it: My latest port submission has been > >sitting in the GNATS database for months, so why bother submitting more > >when nobody cares anyway? > > > Welcome to the Animal Farm THIS was my point about the FreeBSD camp > particularly alienating binary vendors as to drive them away. The kernel > make has been broken for yearsthe "fix it yourself" aka "tough sh*t" > echo has been heard loud and clear. > > They dont want your stinking binary contributions. Get used to it. Not suprisingly you're both wrong. Many binary-only ports exist in the FreeBSD ports tree. If you're going to act like an ass on the mailing lists at least try to be correct while you do it. -- Bill Fumerola - security yahoo / Yahoo! inc. - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: FreeBSD vs Linux, Solaris, and NT
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 07:33:03PM +0100, mouss wrote: > I work for a commercial company, and I did what I could to convince > people that *BSD is the way, and we're happily using FreeBSD. > now, we modiy the kernel sources, and this is a problem since this changes > the way people build the kernel. > what we did is provide procedures to modify the kernel config file (GENERIC > for example), conf/files and so, in order to build the kernel. > While this is ok, it doesn't sound perfect to me. I'd love it if thrid party > modifications were intended in the kernel sources. I'm ready to do the work. > mainly, I'd propose some patches to config so that thrid party > additions/modifications > are made easier [the real problem is that when many companies modify the > kernel. > If they all do it as we do, then it's impossible. but if it's provided by > the system, then > it's easier]. If your company's infrastrucutre changes are made in a way that if the project adopted them it would help binary support, I'm sure that would be accepted. ie. if we just made function foo() more generic and then you could simply provide a KLD, that would make everyones life easier. Sometimes these things aren't that simple, though. :-< -- Bill Fumerola - security yahoo / Yahoo! inc. - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Thread DIES [Re: ssh - are you nuts?!? ]
On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 04:04:36PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Bill Fumerola, who states that security policy > information is un-available. However, I might > refer his comment to the Security Officer instead, > if Bill feels this appropriate. for the public record: Its unavailable in a "I don't know of any place that it is currently stored publicly, so I have no idea how JmJr was making references to it"-way as opposed to a "It's super-secret-elite and you can't have it"-way. -- Bill Fumerola - security yahoo / Yahoo! inc. - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: what is swapper?
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 12:10:52PM -0800, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: > I am working on a non-technical, generic BSD article about special system > processes. I am trying to figure out some details about swapper (process > 0) -- and I have a few questions. [... lots of questions ...] > Where is this well documented? "The Design and Implementation of the 4.4BSD Operating System" -- Bill Fumerola - security yahoo / Yahoo! inc. - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 06:59:14AM +1000, Greg Black wrote: > Perhaps this labelling can be in the form of information on the > FreeBSD.ORG web site that lists distributions that merit the > "official" label. so this list would be controlled by those who can make changes to the FreeBSD web site, right? well, then lets start the list up: $1,000 - in the list $2,000 - I'll bold your entry $2,000 - I'll put your entry at the top ... or maybe we should remind ourselves that the only thing official about FreeBSD is the code. Let the CD vendors figure out ways to attract customers from each other, lets worry more about ways to attract 'customers' from other operating systems. -- Bill Fumerola - security yahoo / Yahoo! inc. - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral
On Sun, Jul 08, 2001 at 12:29:03PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Luckily, with this post to the mailing list you can join the ranks of doing > > nothing positive for the project. Congrats! > > > I seriously doubt if I am the only one who is beyond disappointed in BSDI's > "contribution" to FreeBSD. I actually made detailed replies to each of your points individually but trashed them when I realized they could all be simplified into one: You are a troll and a cluebie. Having said that, post-WC BSDi funded and supported more things then you obviously are aware of. You may want to do a little more research until you accuse them of being anything but positive for the project. For every point you just accused them of being absent and non-beneficial I can name multiple major contributions they funded, supported with people, or flat out donated. -- Bill Fumerola / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps. at least they didn't IPO and lose so much money on hype that they were sued. pps. I never worked for: Walnut Creek CDROM, BSDi, or WindRiver. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 12:17:07PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Is name-calling on the list allowed now? Very classy. From the archives I see > that you make quite a habit of it. Perhaps you should contact those previously wronged by me and start a club: http://help.yahoo.com/help/clubs/cfound/cfound-09.html > You must be quite an important fellow (or > do you have pictures of jordan with barnyard animals?). Well, I actually DO have pictures of Jordan with barnyard animals. Baaa. > And obviously not > very good at making valid arguments if you have to resort to such. That must be it! Have you considered a career in psychology? > Congrats on snipping out my comments, which you continue to fail to absorb. > > My point was that they got no RESULTS. Just as they spent millions > advertising their OS, their dollars didnt translate into results because they > are clueless marketeers. "Funding" is nice, but noone call look at the "BSDI > era" and say "Gee, they really made an impact". All I said is that I wasnt > surprised. Its their history. FreeBSD has never been further behind linux in > the public relations mix, and the gap is widening, even though its a better > product. BSDi really did make an impact. Just because you fail to see one doesn't mean it didn't happen. You might want to read the cvs-all mailing list. If you'd like, I can supply you with some procmail filters that will put all of the commits of people who are/were supported by WC/BSDi/WRS into a folder called 'direct-positive-result-of-bsdi-funding'. I'm also unclear on how you have installed FreeBSD in the past few years, please clarify: [ ] purchased CD from BSDi [ ] downloaded from ftp.freebsd.org (which BSDi was paying for) [ ] downloaded from snapshot servers (partnership of USWest and WC/BSDi) [ ] downloaded from FTP mirror (who got their data from ftp.freebsd.org..) [ ] other (doesn't matter, the source that was used to generate the binaries was stored on WC/BSDi equipment) > Clearly this is a sore spot for you and you are incapable of being objective, > so I'll just leave it at that. blah blah blah. I read all your comments, I just knew how wrong they were. What you don't seem to realize is that BSDi did more then a retarded marketing campaign that failed miserably. I've expanded on what exactly they did in former replies to you, perhaps you might want to read them again. There are plenty of other BSD consipiracies with a lot less concrete evidence to prove them wrong, you may want to start trolling with those. done with this thread, -- Bill Fumerola / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: TCP Window Size
On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 02:54:41PM -0500, Joseph Lekostaj wrote: > > I've been trying to up my TCP window size from the default 16K and it's caused >nothing but problems. From the info I've found so far, these are the sysctl i've >changed: > > kern.ipc.maxsockbuffer=2097152 > net.inet.tcp.rfc1323=1 > net.inet.tcp.sendspace=524288 > net.inet.tcp.recvspace=524288 Good christ thats a lot of memory per socket. kern.ipc.maxsockets is also fairly important to know here too. Nothing is going to prevent the above values from getting out of hand, short of a huge amount of memory dedicated to sockets.. see below... > But if I do that, on boot I get all sorts of error messages about buffer space. >i.e.: > > Jul 9 11:53:20 ccn64 portmap[180]: cannot create tcp socket: No buffer space >available > Jul 9 11:53:21 ccn64 inetd[199]: shell/tcp: socket: No buffer space available > Jul 9 11:53:21 ccn64 inetd[199]: login/tcp: socket: No buffer space available > Jul 9 11:58:55 ccn64 RPC::PlClient[243]: Cannot connect: No buffer space available > Jul 9 11:58:55 ccn64 RPC::PlClient[246]: Cannot connect: No buffer space available > > Is there anything I'm missing? The memory to support blowing 524k of memory per socket? As I recall this memory is eaten as the sockets are created. If you really think you need that much memory (you don't), you're going to need to increase your socket memory to a lot more then 2097152 I'd personally suggest just tuning net.inet.tcp.*space to 64k at most. -- Bill Fumerola - security yahoo / Yahoo! inc. - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: TCP Window Size
On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 05:00:50PM -0500, Bill Fumerola wrote: > Good christ thats a lot of memory per socket. kern.ipc.maxsockets is > also fairly important to know here too. Nothing is going to prevent > the above values from getting out of hand, short of a huge amount of > memory dedicated to sockets.. see below... ignore this, I was mistaken at what time the memory gets allocated -- Bill Fumerola - security yahoo / Yahoo! inc. - [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Intel ISP1100 or similar 1U experience with 4.3 stable
On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 02:24:11PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Its generally a bad idea to house a multi-processor system in a 1U enclosure, > as there isnt enough cooling space and 3/4" fans are simply not powerful > enough. Unless space is ridiculously scarce, you can get much better cooling > and reliability with a 2U unit. I have not had any problems (that were related to environment) with any of my multi-processor 1U machines. There are companies[1] who know how to build them. -- Bill Fumerola / [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. rackable (http://www.rackable.com/) rocks! compaq has multi-processor 1U products as well (and I've never heard of the compaq 1Us having environmental problems either). conspiracy theory advocates will suggest that I'm paid to say that, though. :-> To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
Re: Pflaum on BBC News TALKING POINT Globalisation Good or bad
On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 02:54:11PM -0400, Bill Moran wrote: > > My guess, fwiw, is that somebody subscribed freebsd-hackers to some eGroup toy > > and this is why this is happening. Joy. > > I don't know. If it's coming from some eGroup, why is it originating at what > looks like a dialup address, and running through Earthling? > Looks like SPAM to me. It's not coming from eGroups. -- Bill Fumerola / [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
