Introduction
Hi, I'm a long time Fedora user and used to help develop the Ralink Wireless driver (rt2x00) that's been present in the kernel for a long time. I'm now entering the process of helping maintain the mixxx package over at rpmfusion. Hope to be useful with this new venture. Luis Correia -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Problems setting up environment
Hi, please excuse my probable clumsiness but I'm having issues while trying to get ssh access to a package I'm now co-maintaining on RPM Fusion Free. I have followed all steps in https://rpmfusion.org/Contributors#Co-maintaining_an_existing_package, and am pretty sure my ssh key was uploaded correctly. If I try to clone the repo, I get this $ rfpkg clone free/mixxx Cloning into 'mixxx'... luisfcorr...@pkgs.rpmfusion.org: Permission denied (publickey). fatal: Could not read from remote repository. Please make sure you have the correct access rights and the repository exists. Could not execute clone: Failed to execute command. Thanks in advance! Luis -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Problems setting up environment
On Wed, 7 Feb 2024 at 14:13, Jonathan Wright via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > I think you sent this to the wrong list ;) > > On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 8:03 AM Luis Correia > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> please excuse my probable clumsiness but I'm having issues while trying >> to get ssh access to a package I'm now co-maintaining on RPM Fusion Free. >> >> I have followed all steps in >> https://rpmfusion.org/Contributors#Co-maintaining_an_existing_package, >> and am pretty sure my ssh key was uploaded correctly. >> >> If I try to clone the repo, I get this >> >> $ rfpkg clone free/mixxx >> Cloning into 'mixxx'... >> luisfcorr...@pkgs.rpmfusion.org: Permission denied (publickey). >> fatal: Could not read from remote repository. >> >> Please make sure you have the correct access rights >> and the repository exists. >> Could not execute clone: Failed to execute command. >> >> Thanks in advance! >> Luis >> >> -- >> ___ >> devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org >> Fedora Code of Conduct: >> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ >> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >> List Archives: >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >> Do not reply to spam, report it: >> https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue >> > > > -- > Jonathan Wright > AlmaLinux Foundation > Mattermost: chat <https://chat.almalinux.org/almalinux/messages/@jonathan> > -- > ___ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue I'm so sorry -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Introduction
The package already exists, under RPM Fusion free (most updated is a beta version) I'll at least keep it up to date with new releases On Wed, 7 Feb 2024 at 14:25, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Sun, Feb 4, 2024 at 6:08 PM Luis Correia > wrote: > > > > Hi, I'm a long time Fedora user and used to help develop the Ralink > Wireless driver (rt2x00) that's been present in the kernel for a long time. > > > > I'm now entering the process of helping maintain the mixxx package over > at rpmfusion. > > > > Hope to be useful with this new venture. > > > > Welcome! Have you considered bringing mixxx over to Fedora? I'm pretty > sure it can be packaged in Fedora proper these days. > > > > -- > 真実はいつも一つ!/ Always, there's only one truth! > -- > ___ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Introduction
Oh, I see! Well, let me get the hang of RPM Fusion right now, then I'll try to figure out how that's done :) I'm just trying to help the mixxx project having it working on the Fedora ecosystem as the former packager has resigned. On Wed, 7 Feb 2024 at 14:46, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski < domi...@greysector.net> wrote: > On Wednesday, 07 February 2024 at 15:31, Luis Correia wrote: > > The package already exists, under RPM Fusion free (most updated is a beta > > version) > > > > I'll at least keep it up to date with new releases > > We know it exists. Neal is saying you should move it from RPM Fusion to > Fedora. > > As far as I know, it doesn't depend on anything not already in Fedora. > > Regards, > Dominik > -- > Fedora https://fedoraproject.org > Deep in the human unconscious is a pervasive need for a logical universe > that > makes sense. But the real universe is always one step beyond logic. > -- from "The Sayings of Muad'Dib" by the Princess Irulan > -- > ___ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)
On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 at 03:24, Kevin Kofler via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > Why not the opposite: > > > > Download Workstation > > > > [I'm a linux user and know what I want, just show me the full list of > > downloads, click here]? > > Because that still leads people to click that "Download Workstation" link > before even seeing the options. "I do not want to have to choose" should > be > a concious choice, also considering that the mostly unconfigurable (by > design) GNOME is very likely to be the wrong option for anybody not in > that > category. And besides: > > > (Which is pretty much what we have now) > > Well, not quite, it is more like: > > [LOGO Workstation (Download Now) (Learn More)] > > [LOGO Server (Download Now) (Learn More)] > > [LOGO IoT (Download Now) (Learn More)] > > [LOGO Cloud (Download Now) (Learn More)] > > [LOGO CoreOS (Download Now) (Learn More)] > > Want more Fedora options? > > Atomic Desktops (Learn More) ← no frame nor logo nor mention of "download" > > Fedora Spins (Learn More) ← no frame nor logo nor mention of "download" > > Fedora Labs (Learn More) ← no frame nor logo nor mention of "download" > > Fedora ALT Downloads (Learn More) ← no frame nor logo > > So you get offered a lot of (most likely) irrelevant (to you) options > (Server, IoT, Cloud, CoreOS) before even being told that there are more > options than those (and Workstation), the "Workstation" link does not tell > you that (even though those are clearly workstation/desktop-targeted > options > too), and you also do not see the full list of options anywhere, but just > a > list of lists. You actually have to click on "Learn More" after "Fedora > Spins" to even see what desktop environments are available. > > Kevin Kofler > -- > ___ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue I'm mostly a user and I can accept a change from GNOME to KDE, IF and only if I'm not forced to use Wayland. For me it isn't usable in my setup and most things are plain broken. (sorry for the slight offset in conversation) Luis -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: F42 Change Proposal: Opt-In Metrics for Fedora Workstation (system-wide)
On Tue, 2 Jul 2024 at 09:55, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 3:27 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel > wrote: > > > > On 01/07/2024 21:47, Aoife Moloney wrote: > > > As a result of this feedback, we have changed the proposal: we now > > > propose that initial setup will show an explicit yes/no prompt which > > > has no default value. > > > > What about existing systems? > > > > As it is, it will remain off by default. There is currently no way to > trigger a prompt to activate it on existing systems. There will be a > toggle in GNOME Settings (gnome-control-center) for turning it on if > you so desire. > > > > Which metrics will be collected > > > Country where device is physically located (this will need discussion) > > > > This definitely MUST be removed from telemetry. > > > > Why? It can be useful for determining where to boost investment in > l10n and i18n efforts. > > > Yes, removed. I already have enough telemetry I can't disable on the things I'm using (being Portuguese from Portugal, all investment I see in bringing "Portuguese" to products, isn't the Portuguese I use, it's the Brazilian variant, which makes little to no sense to us) HTH, Luís -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Fedora & AI Survey Now Live Until July 16th
On Tue, 2 Jul 2024 at 09:45, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 4:19 AM Daniel P. Berrangé > wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jul 01, 2024 at 08:07:46PM +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote: > > > DJ & Tom - thank you for that clarification on how to interpret your > > > ranking, and I can assure you and other folks who feel similar about > > > answering that question that that is indeed the way we will be > analysing > > > the results - top ranked being best fit, 5th or last ranked being > least or > > > worst fit. Also for anyone who has yet to complete the survey, the last > > > question is an optional, free format answer so I would suggest using > that > > > to expand on reasons why you ranked certain areas #1, #2 etc for what > > > problems you see AI addressing in those parts of the project. > > > > > > I would also like to add that we deliberately took a positive tone for > this > > > survey as it is far too easy to find (many) negatives for AI (and for > good > > > reason!), and we wanted to try to look at the benefits we could get > from AI > > > instead if applied properly and wit the best interest of Fedora > driving the > > > use of AI in parts of the projects ecosystem. > > > > > > This survey is just trying to understand the preferences and wants of > the > > > Fedora community when it comes to AI, and not a guarantee that the > project > > > will be introducing AI in all of the mentioned areas. > > > > I can't see how this helps understand the Fedora contributor's > preferences > > about the use of AI, when the survey is restricting the possible answers > > to "yes", "definitely yes", "very much yes". I would question the > validity > > of any actions taken / priorities set in Fedora based on results of this > > survey. > > > > Indeed. This creates a skewed dataset because the questions you've > asked essentially prevent a set of responses from being captured. The > two choices people have are: pick the least worst option or just don't > participate in the survey. Neither of which are good things. > > > Continuing with a small comment: this looks like one of those Human Resources surveys where they only want to know if their performance is: . good . great . outstanding And as we know, it's actually none of those Luís -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Fedora & AI Survey Now Live Until July 16th
I get that all conversations about AI/ML are controversial (at best) But I have just realised that there's even another, and worst, point of view: you can say that Fedora Council has already decided on using AI/ML going forward and only wants to know where implementing priorities will go... Hope this isn't the case! p.s. I won't be filling the survey as I can't proceed in good conscience and will be happy for a new revision without "positive only" choices Best, Luís On Tue, 2 Jul 2024 at 11:01, Aoife Moloney wrote: > *a terrible time with that question in particular > > (Sorry, autocorrected and I didn't spot it before hitting send) > > Aoife Moloney > Fedora Operations Architect > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2024, 10:59 AM Aoife Moloney wrote: > >> I guess how the question is phrased 'where do you feel like AI/ML has the >> best fit in Fedora' assumes the responder will choose where they feel it >> works best as top choice, and least-best (terrible English :) ) as last, so >> reviewers of the survey would likely assume 'oh the option >> scored lowest, that means people really don't see AI/ML as suiting that use >> case so we shouldn't focus any energy on this option'. >> >> Like I said, it really is great feedback because the tone of the >> question, while deliberately trying to be positive because this is such a >> controversial topic in and of itself, didn't raise this issue of needing a >> 'doesn't fit at all' option when the survey questions were reviewed before >> going live, and that's something we can take forward for the contributors >> survey too for question structuring. >> >> >> >> The only reluctance I have on scrapping this survey and changing that >> question and then relaunching is that I don't want it to be spammy, because >> I'm sure a lot of folks have already completed the current one and there's >> still the contributor survey too to be launched, but if folks are having a >> terrible that with that question I'm particular, then I will and hope you >> give me another few mins of your day again to fill it back out :) >> >> >> >> Aoife Moloney >> Fedora Operations Architect >> >> On Tue, Jul 2, 2024, 10:03 AM Luis Correia >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, 2 Jul 2024 at 09:45, Neal Gompa wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 4:19 AM Daniel P. Berrangé >>>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > On Mon, Jul 01, 2024 at 08:07:46PM +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote: >>>> > > DJ & Tom - thank you for that clarification on how to interpret your >>>> > > ranking, and I can assure you and other folks who feel similar about >>>> > > answering that question that that is indeed the way we will be >>>> analysing >>>> > > the results - top ranked being best fit, 5th or last ranked being >>>> least or >>>> > > worst fit. Also for anyone who has yet to complete the survey, the >>>> last >>>> > > question is an optional, free format answer so I would suggest >>>> using that >>>> > > to expand on reasons why you ranked certain areas #1, #2 etc for >>>> what >>>> > > problems you see AI addressing in those parts of the project. >>>> > > >>>> > > I would also like to add that we deliberately took a positive tone >>>> for this >>>> > > survey as it is far too easy to find (many) negatives for AI (and >>>> for good >>>> > > reason!), and we wanted to try to look at the benefits we could get >>>> from AI >>>> > > instead if applied properly and wit the best interest of Fedora >>>> driving the >>>> > > use of AI in parts of the projects ecosystem. >>>> > > >>>> > > This survey is just trying to understand the preferences and wants >>>> of the >>>> > > Fedora community when it comes to AI, and not a guarantee that the >>>> project >>>> > > will be introducing AI in all of the mentioned areas. >>>> > >>>> > I can't see how this helps understand the Fedora contributor's >>>> preferences >>>> > about the use of AI, when the survey is restricting the possible >>>> answers >>>> > to "yes", "definitely yes", "very much yes". I would question the >&g
Re: Building mixxx for ppc64le (f40)
If I could get help in moving to Fedora, I'm more then happy to do it. I'll need some help on 'how', can you please point me to the correct documentation? A sexta, 29/11/2024, 08:38, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski < domi...@greysector.net> escreveu: > On Thursday, 28 November 2024 at 23:03, Luis Correia wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I was running the build processes for Mixxx 2.4.2 release on RPMFusion > > Instead of updating it in RPM Fusion, please move it over to Fedora. All > its mandatory dependencies are in Fedora already. The only optional one > that is missing is faad2. I expect AAC decoding will work via FFmpeg > instead. > > > It ran fine, except in F40 for ppc64le, in where some dependency doesn't > > exist in Everything. > > > > I am not the original maintainer and as such, didn't create the spec > file, > > or had this issue in the few releases I actually managed to do. > > Looks like it had various people doing updates and fixing stuff, even > including the upstream author. > > Regards, > Dominik > -- > Fedora https://fedoraproject.org > Deep in the human unconscious is a pervasive need for a logical universe > that > makes sense. But the real universe is always one step beyond logic. > -- from "The Sayings of Muad'Dib" by the Princess Irulan > -- > ___ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Building mixxx for ppc64le (f40)
Hi, I was running the build processes for Mixxx 2.4.2 release on RPMFusion It ran fine, except in F40 for ppc64le, in where some dependency doesn't exist in Everything. I am not the original maintainer and as such, didn't create the spec file, or had this issue in the few releases I actually managed to do. Humbly asking for assistance, as I'm out of my depth here https://koji.rpmfusion.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=661020 https://koji.rpmfusion.org/kojifiles/work/tasks/1023/661023/root.log Thanks, Luis -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Building mixxx for ppc64le (f40)
Hi, so, I went through and tried to push this to Fedora and opened a bug for Package Review. Thing is, this mixxx package depends on faad2 and ffmpeg-devel, which as far as I know, aren't available in Fedora. So the build effectively failed https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/g/fedora-review/fedora-review-2329895-mixxx/build/814/ And I don't really know how to proceed, sorry. Luis On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 at 10:13, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski < domi...@greysector.net> wrote: > On Friday, 29 November 2024 at 09:44, Luis Correia wrote: > > If I could get help in moving to Fedora, I'm more then happy to do it. > > Sure. Once the package is submitted for review, please block the > MultimediaSIG tracker bug and one of the SIG members will try to do the > review as soon as they can. > > > I'll need some help on 'how', can you please point me to the correct > > documentation? > > You just follow the usual process and submit it as a new package for > review: > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/Package_Review_Process/ > > It'd be good to notify current RPM Fusion maintainers of this, too. > > Regards, > Dominik > -- > Fedora https://fedoraproject.org > Deep in the human unconscious is a pervasive need for a logical universe > that > makes sense. But the real universe is always one step beyond logic. > -- from "The Sayings of Muad'Dib" by the Princess Irulan > -- > ___ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: GDM dropped support for running X11 sessions in F42 without a Change?
I've tired but then I can't share screen with Teams, and get a lot of black areas when doing a lot of stuff. so, I gave up, no time to tinker with stuff that should just work, you know, like X11 does On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 at 14:22, Nishant Mishra wrote: > Hey Luis , > > > You can make Nvidia Work with Wayland you just need to dabble in terminal > and config files > > On Thu, 10 Apr, 2025, 1:49 pm Luis Correia, > wrote: > >> An unimportant opinion from a User: >> >> Wayland does not work reliably for me, using what I need to use (nVidia >> binary drivers). >> I'm feeling forced into something that I don't understand why and am >> seriously thinking of just stop using Fedora. >> >> I also understand that the world keeps moving forward and there's little >> I can do to keep working things, well, working. >> >> my 0.02€ >> >> Luis >> >> >> >> On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 at 03:57, Nishant Mishra >> wrote: >> >>> Hey Peter , >>> >>> What I meant is personally I haven't had any such issues with Fedora >>> Board which you have mentioned in my 3 years as a contributor. I totally >>> understand your point of view as well >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> On Thu, 10 Apr, 2025, 1:15 am Peter Boy Uni, wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > Am 09.04.2025 um 21:20 schrieb Nishant Mishra >>> >: >>>> > >>>> > Peter Boy , >>>> > In this case you are wrong 😒 >>>> > I have been a Fedora Contributor since Last 3 years >>>> >>>> Sorry if my wording was imprecise. I wasn't referring to you or anyone >>>> in particular. I was referring to various discussions, mostly on Devel >>>> List. And I know Kevin's position on the subject (and some other >>>> controversies). And I sympathize with his pragmatic and including stance. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Peter Boy >>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy >>>> p...@fedoraproject.org >>>> >>>> Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST (UTC+2) >>>> >>>> Fedora Server Edition Working Group member >>>> Fedora Docs team contributor and board member >>>> Java developer and enthusiast >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ___ >>>> devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org >>>> Fedora Code of Conduct: >>>> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ >>>> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >>>> List Archives: >>>> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >>>> Do not reply to spam, report it: >>>> https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue >>>> >>> -- >>> ___ >>> devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org >>> Fedora Code of Conduct: >>> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ >>> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >>> List Archives: >>> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >>> Do not reply to spam, report it: >>> https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue >>> >> -- >> ___ >> devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org >> Fedora Code of Conduct: >> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ >> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >> List Archives: >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >> Do not reply to spam, report it: >> https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue >> > -- > ___ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: GDM dropped support for running X11 sessions in F42 without a Change?
An unimportant opinion from a User: Wayland does not work reliably for me, using what I need to use (nVidia binary drivers). I'm feeling forced into something that I don't understand why and am seriously thinking of just stop using Fedora. I also understand that the world keeps moving forward and there's little I can do to keep working things, well, working. my 0.02€ Luis On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 at 03:57, Nishant Mishra wrote: > Hey Peter , > > What I meant is personally I haven't had any such issues with Fedora Board > which you have mentioned in my 3 years as a contributor. I totally > understand your point of view as well > > Regards > > On Thu, 10 Apr, 2025, 1:15 am Peter Boy Uni, wrote: > >> >> >> > Am 09.04.2025 um 21:20 schrieb Nishant Mishra : >> > >> > Peter Boy , >> > In this case you are wrong 😒 >> > I have been a Fedora Contributor since Last 3 years >> >> Sorry if my wording was imprecise. I wasn't referring to you or anyone in >> particular. I was referring to various discussions, mostly on Devel List. >> And I know Kevin's position on the subject (and some other controversies). >> And I sympathize with his pragmatic and including stance. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Peter Boy >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy >> p...@fedoraproject.org >> >> Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST (UTC+2) >> >> Fedora Server Edition Working Group member >> Fedora Docs team contributor and board member >> Java developer and enthusiast >> >> >> -- >> ___ >> devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org >> Fedora Code of Conduct: >> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ >> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >> List Archives: >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >> Do not reply to spam, report it: >> https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue >> > -- > ___ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: GDM dropped support for running X11 sessions in F42 without a Change?
A 'thing' existing for about 9 years only makes it 9 years old, doesn't make it a good thing. I would be ok of Fedora dropping it when upstream does it, not before! no matter how much I like bleeding edge, this isn't the way to do it. and I'll shut up now, I'm meaningless to this discussion sorry all On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 at 21:59, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > So on the one hand, it seems a little petty for Fedora to disable X11 > support in gdm before upstream does. It's notably still enabled by > default in upstream GNOME 48 and in git master. > > On the other hand, if we're confident upstream is likely going to > remove the X11 support relatively soon, then it seems reasonable to do > this in Fedora first. I'm not sure that upstream actually has a > concrete plan for this, though! > > I suppose I don't have a very strong opinion here. If you're using > GNOME on X11, that's surely going to stop working sooner or later > regardless, and it's long past time for you to figure out a path > forward. GNOME and Fedora Workstation both switched to Wayland by > default in 2016; it's been 9 years now, a *really* long time to not be > ready for this. > > Michael > > > -- > ___ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: GDM dropped support for running X11 sessions in F42 without a Change?
Nishant, it's a RTX3060 nvidia-smi Thu Apr 10 22:24:00 2025 +-+ | NVIDIA-SMI 570.133.07 Driver Version: 570.133.07 CUDA Version: 12.8 | |-++--+ | GPU Name Persistence-M | Bus-Id Disp.A | Volatile Uncorr. ECC | | Fan Temp Perf Pwr:Usage/Cap | Memory-Usage | GPU-Util Compute M. | | || MIG M. | |=++==| | 0 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060Off | :01:00.0 On | N/A | | 0% 48CP8 20W / 170W | 939MiB / 12288MiB | 25% Default | | || N/A | +-++--+ +-+ | Processes: | | GPU GI CI PID Type Process name GPU Memory | |ID ID Usage | |=| |0 N/A N/A2659 G /usr/libexec/Xorg 276MiB | |0 N/A N/A2823 G /usr/bin/gnome-shell 88MiB | |0 N/A N/A2993 G /usr/bin/nextcloud 2MiB | |0 N/A N/A3067 G /usr/lib64/firefox/firefox 321MiB | |0 N/A N/A3881 G ...and --variations-seed-version 78MiB | |0 N/A N/A5243 G /app/extra/slack 39MiB | |0 N/A N/A 76746C+G /usr/bin/nautilus 16MiB | +-+ On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 at 22:16, Nishant Mishra wrote: > Hey Luis > > Please let me know which Nvidia GPU are you using ? > > > > Regards > > Nishant > > On Fri, 11 Apr, 2025, 2:45 am Luis Correia, > wrote: > >> A 'thing' existing for about 9 years only makes it 9 years old, doesn't >> make it a good thing. >> >> I would be ok of Fedora dropping it when upstream does it, not before! >> no matter how much I like bleeding edge, this isn't the way to do it. >> >> and I'll shut up now, I'm meaningless to this discussion >> sorry all >> >> On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 at 21:59, Michael Catanzaro >> wrote: >> >>> >>> So on the one hand, it seems a little petty for Fedora to disable X11 >>> support in gdm before upstream does. It's notably still enabled by >>> default in upstream GNOME 48 and in git master. >>> >>> On the other hand, if we're confident upstream is likely going to >>> remove the X11 support relatively soon, then it seems reasonable to do >>> this in Fedora first. I'm not sure that upstream actually has a >>> concrete plan for this, though! >>> >>> I suppose I don't have a very strong opinion here. If you're using >>> GNOME on X11, that's surely going to stop working sooner or later >>> regardless, and it's long past time for you to figure out a path >>> forward. GNOME and Fedora Workstation both switched to Wayland by >>> default in 2016; it's been 9 years now, a *really* long time to not be >>> ready for this. >>> >>> Michael >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ___ >>> devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org >>> Fedora Code of Conduct: >>> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ >>> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >>> List Archives: >>> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >>> Do not reply to spam, report it: >>> https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue >>> >> -- >> ___ >> devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org >> Fedora Code of Conduct: >> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ >> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >> List Archives: >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/d
MIXXX 2.5.1 build
Hi, I'm humbling asking for help, no idea of what is wrong here: https://koji.rpmfusion.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=679170 It also failed locally, which I forgot to check first, sorry for wasting kojii build time... Luis -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue