AOO 4.1.10 Release Notes - what about "feedback"?

2021-04-24 Thread Czesław Wolański
Hi,

Release Notes 4.0   [*]
section "General Remarks", the 5th paragraph:

--
As always we welcome your feedback:

- Support questions are best directed to our community support forums.
- Bug reports (but not support questions) should go to to our Bugzilla
issue tracking system.
- General questions can also be sent to our public users mailing list.
--


I know that hardly anyone reads the Release Notes and the issue is trivial,
but I musk ask:

Does anyone know / remember why the said paragraph vanished?
As of version 4.1, cf. the juxtaposition:

https://pasteboard.co/JYMNAbw.jpg


Regards,
Czesław


[*]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes


Re: AOO 4.1.10 Release Notes - what about "feedback"?

2021-04-24 Thread Marcus

Am 24.04.21 um 10:59 schrieb Czesław Wolański:

Release Notes 4.0   [*]
section "General Remarks", the 5th paragraph:

--
As always we welcome your feedback:

- Support questions are best directed to our community support forums.
- Bug reports (but not support questions) should go to to our Bugzilla
issue tracking system.
- General questions can also be sent to our public users mailing list.
--

I know that hardly anyone reads the Release Notes and the issue is trivial,
but I musk ask:

Does anyone know / remember why the said paragraph vanished?
As of version 4.1, cf. the juxtaposition:

https://pasteboard.co/JYMNAbw.jpg

[*]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes


I don't think there was special reason. As you can see the the whole 
notes are very different compared with the ones from today. Even in the 
notes for 4.0.1 this text is no longer there.


So, it's just the normal thing: Time is going by and things are 
evolving. ;-)


However, we could add it back if you think it's essential.

Marcus

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Re: AOO 4.1.10 Release Notes - what about "feedback"?

2021-04-24 Thread Czesław Wolański
Hi Marcus,

Thank you for clarifying.
I don't know if it is essential,
just a question that occured to me while reading the ReadMe file for the
umpteenth time.

Time is going by and I am devolving. ;-)

Regards,
Czesław

Am Sa., 24. Apr. 2021 um 11:19 Uhr schrieb Marcus :

> Am 24.04.21 um 10:59 schrieb Czesław Wolański:
> > Release Notes 4.0   [*]
> > section "General Remarks", the 5th paragraph:
> >
> > --
> > As always we welcome your feedback:
> >
> > - Support questions are best directed to our community support forums.
> > - Bug reports (but not support questions) should go to to our Bugzilla
> > issue tracking system.
> > - General questions can also be sent to our public users mailing list.
> > --
> >
> > I know that hardly anyone reads the Release Notes and the issue is
> trivial,
> > but I musk ask:
> >
> > Does anyone know / remember why the said paragraph vanished?
> > As of version 4.1, cf. the juxtaposition:
> >
> > https://pasteboard.co/JYMNAbw.jpg
> >
> > [*]
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes
>
> I don't think there was special reason. As you can see the the whole
> notes are very different compared with the ones from today. Even in the
> notes for 4.0.1 this text is no longer there.
>
> So, it's just the normal thing: Time is going by and things are
> evolving. ;-)
>
> However, we could add it back if you think it's essential.
>
> Marcus
>
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Re: Ubuntu 21.04 / dark mode

2021-04-24 Thread Pedro Lino
Hi Matthias, all

I just installed Ubuntu 21.04 from scratch (formatted the Pop!_OS SSD) and the 
default theme (Standard) does not cause AOO to switch to the High Contrast icon 
style.

However the problem does occur if the user manually switches to the Dark 
Appearance.

Turning off the Accessibility switch partially solves most of the problem, but 
there are other small glitches

https://imgur.com/a/NFqJqoZ

Answering your previous question: no I had not restarted. In the second image 
from today's Imgur you can see what it looks like with the Automatic Galaxy 
icons after restart.

Regards,
Pedro

> On 04/22/2021 7:31 PM Matthias Seidel  wrote:
> 
>  
> Hi all,
> 
> Ubuntu 21.04 is out today and it comes with a dark mode UI enabled by
> default.
> 
> Does AOO still switch to "High Contrast" when started on a dark UI? If
> so, people will start to ask how to disable it in the near future.
> 
> I didn't have the time to install and test, maybe someone else has updated?
> 
> Regards,
> 
>    Matthias

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Re: Ubuntu 21.04 / dark mode

2021-04-24 Thread Matthias Seidel
Hi Pedro,

Am 24.04.21 um 17:29 schrieb Pedro Lino:
> Hi Matthias, all
>
> I just installed Ubuntu 21.04 from scratch (formatted the Pop!_OS SSD) and 
> the default theme (Standard) does not cause AOO to switch to the High 
> Contrast icon style.
>
> However the problem does occur if the user manually switches to the Dark 
> Appearance.
>
> Turning off the Accessibility switch partially solves most of the problem, 
> but there are other small glitches
>
> https://imgur.com/a/NFqJqoZ
Ah, I see. White text on white background in the Start Center. Maybe
this can be fixed in the short term?
>
> Answering your previous question: no I had not restarted. In the second image 
> from today's Imgur you can see what it looks like with the Automatic Galaxy 
> icons after restart.

Yes, now the elements in the status bar look better. Personally I don't
use dark mode, but it is sort of fashion now.

But it is definitely time for an additional (dark mode) icon set and it
would be a great exercise for us to integrate a new icon set in the code!

Regards,

   Matthias

>
> Regards,
> Pedro
>
>> On 04/22/2021 7:31 PM Matthias Seidel  wrote:
>>
>>  
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Ubuntu 21.04 is out today and it comes with a dark mode UI enabled by
>> default.
>>
>> Does AOO still switch to "High Contrast" when started on a dark UI? If
>> so, people will start to ask how to disable it in the near future.
>>
>> I didn't have the time to install and test, maybe someone else has updated?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>    Matthias
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Re: Ubuntu 21.04 / dark mode

2021-04-24 Thread Pedro Lino
Hi Matthias

> On 04/24/2021 6:44 PM Matthias Seidel  wrote:

> Yes, now the elements in the status bar look better. Personally I don't
> use dark mode, but it is sort of fashion now.

I actually like it. But in this case I'm happy it is not the Default theme for 
Ubuntu 21.04 :)
 
> But it is definitely time for an additional (dark mode) icon set and it
> would be a great exercise for us to integrate a new icon set in the code!

I agree. The problem is twofold: 1) the licence for the icon themes (can't use 
GPL) and 2) the current icons are bitmaps (it would be really good if AOO 
accepted SVG)

Regards,
Pedro

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Re: Ubuntu 21.04 / dark mode

2021-04-24 Thread Matthias Seidel
Hi Pedro,

Am 24.04.21 um 20:02 schrieb Pedro Lino:
> Hi Matthias
>
>> On 04/24/2021 6:44 PM Matthias Seidel  wrote:
>> Yes, now the elements in the status bar look better. Personally I don't
>> use dark mode, but it is sort of fashion now.
> I actually like it. But in this case I'm happy it is not the Default theme 
> for Ubuntu 21.04 :)
>  
>> But it is definitely time for an additional (dark mode) icon set and it
>> would be a great exercise for us to integrate a new icon set in the code!
> I agree. The problem is twofold: 1) the licence for the icon themes (can't 
> use GPL) and 2) the current icons are bitmaps (it would be really good if AOO 
> accepted SVG)

Sure, SVG would be nice, but that needs someone to write the code. We
you can always create PNG out of SVG, so that should not stop us.

However we could start by adding a dark mode icon set and begin with
some UI elements. Missing icons fall back to the standard icon set. Of
course it would be easier, if we find a free icon theme for dark mode
and adapt it.

See:
https://github.com/apache/openoffice/blob/trunk/main/ooo_custom_images/README.txt

Regards,

   Matthias

> Regards,
> Pedro
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Re: AOO 4.1.10 Release Notes - what about "feedback"?

2021-04-24 Thread Keith N. McKenna
On 2021-04-24 05:19, Marcus wrote:
> Am 24.04.21 um 10:59 schrieb Czesław Wolański:
>> Release Notes 4.0   [*]
>> section "General Remarks", the 5th paragraph:
>>
>> --
>> As always we welcome your feedback:
>>
>> - Support questions are best directed to our community support forums.
>> - Bug reports (but not support questions) should go to to our Bugzilla
>> issue tracking system.
>> - General questions can also be sent to our public users mailing list.
>> --
>>
>> I know that hardly anyone reads the Release Notes and the issue is
>> trivial,
>> but I musk ask:
>>
>> Does anyone know / remember why the said paragraph vanished?
>> As of version 4.1, cf. the juxtaposition:
>>
>> https://pasteboard.co/JYMNAbw.jpg
>>
>> [*]
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes
>>
> 
> I don't think there was special reason. As you can see the the whole
> notes are very different compared with the ones from today. Even in the
> notes for 4.0.1 this text is no longer there.
> 
> So, it's just the normal thing: Time is going by and things are
> evolving. ;-)
> 
> However, we could add it back if you think it's essential.
> 
> Marcus

I will be setting aside time tomorrow after church to go through and
redesign the template that is used to generate the release notes. I will
then generate a dummy release note and send to dev@ and hope there is
more feedback on it than there was on the original.

Regards
Keith



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