Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Building comphelper

2013-09-18 Thread Herbert Duerr 

Hi Raymond,

On 16.09.2013 19:40, Steele, Raymond wrote:

I removed the -library=no%Cstd from the two files and performed a clean build, 
but still have the same issues. Also, I am untarring the BOOST package version 
1.48  so I downloaded the zipped version and unzipped it, placed the resulting 
boost directory in /usr/local/include after using --with-system-boost 
configuration. Still no luck.  I also reconfigured with --without-stlport.



It still appears that I it is using 
/opt/aoo-4.0.0/main/solver/400/unxsoli4.pro/inc/stl/climits.SUNWCCh.


This file should and cannot be there if the --without-stlport build was 
clean. For its recipe see main/stlport/makefile.mk. Please retry doing 
the --without-stlport clean build, i.e. main/solver and */unxsoli4.pro 
output directories removed.


Herbert

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cppu::bootstrap() does not work with OpenOffice 4.0.0

2013-09-18 Thread Wei Min Teo 
Hi,
I'm writing in C++ and testing on OpenOffice 4.0.0. I encountered a problem 
where cppu::bootstrap() throws a cppu::BootstrapException with the message "no 
soffice installation found!". 
Prior to this, I have started the soffice process and passed in the -accept 
flag to open up a listening port. Running netstat has confirmed this. However, 
bootstrap still fails. This code was previously working with OO 3.x. 
It'll be great if anyone can give me some advice on this.
Thanks.


Cheers,
Wei Min

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Building comphelper

2013-09-18 Thread Herbert Dürr 

Hi Raymond,

On 16.09.2013 22:04, Steele, Raymond wrote:

I was wrong I thought the I set the --without-stlport flag, but did not. I just 
set it and reconfigured.  Now I am receiving this.

Entering /opt/aoo-4.0.0/main/sal/rtl/source

--- ALWAYSDBGFILES ---
--- ALWAYSDBGFILES OVER ---
Compiling: sal/rtl/source/hash.cxx
"/opt/aoo-4.0.0/main/sal/rtl/source/hash.cxx", line 32: Error: Could not open include 
file.


This missing file (hash_set) should be in
main/solver/400/unxsoli4.pro/inc/stl/
as soon as the module main/stlport was built. What are the include paths 
(the "-Ixxx" options) for hash.cxx when when you build with the 
"verbose=true" build option?


Herbert


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Re: cppu::bootstrap() does not work with OpenOffice 4.0.0

2013-09-18 Thread Shemil Hashan 
when i was going to test the example(RNG) which provided in
"calc/Add-in/Simple Calc Add-In" tutorial in Apache open office wiki I got
the error "cppuhelper/implbase4.hxx: No such file or directory" while
exucuting make file. Can you give a solution for this problem?


On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 5:37 AM, Wei Min Teo  wrote:

> Hi,
> I'm writing in C++ and testing on OpenOffice 4.0.0. I encountered a
> problem where cppu::bootstrap() throws a cppu::BootstrapException with the
> message "no soffice installation found!".
> Prior to this, I have started the soffice process and passed in the
> -accept flag to open up a listening port. Running netstat has confirmed
> this. However, bootstrap still fails. This code was previously working with
> OO 3.x.
> It'll be great if anyone can give me some advice on this.
> Thanks.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Wei Min

Re: cppu::bootstrap() does not work with OpenOffice 4.0.0

2013-09-18 Thread Jürgen Schmidt 
On 9/18/13 11:37 AM, Wei Min Teo wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm writing in C++ and testing on OpenOffice 4.0.0. I encountered a problem 
> where cppu::bootstrap() throws a cppu::BootstrapException with the message 
> "no soffice installation found!". 
> Prior to this, I have started the soffice process and passed in the -accept 
> flag to open up a listening port. Running netstat has confirmed this. 
> However, bootstrap still fails. This code was previously working with OO 3.x. 
> It'll be great if anyone can give me some advice on this.
> Thanks.
> 
 which operating system you are using?

when  you want to use a specific connecton url you have to use the
XUnoUrlResolver to connect.

cppu:bootstrap() looks for the default office installed on your system,
start it on demand and connect to it.

I need more info about your work environment . Have you tried the SDK
samples?

Juergen


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Re: [INFO] Apache OpenOffice at LinuxDay 2013 Dornbirn AT

2013-09-18 Thread Detlef Nannen 
Hallo Raphael,

ich komme nochmal zurück auf Deine gestrige Mail.

Was meinst Du, was wir dort darstellen wollen, und wie wir das machen
können? Ich efinnere mich noch, dass bei LO etwas mehr los war.

Dein "Budget: not needet" ließ mich aufhorchen. Ist mit finanzieller
Unterstützung durch AOO zu rechnen, wenn wir etwas brauchen? Ich denke
nicht an tausende Euro oder Franken, aber wenn wir Unterstützung bekommen
können, dann wäre das doch ein toller Grundstock für eine Messebox für den
deutschsprachigen Bereich.

Dann können wir das möglicherweise etwas spannender aufziehen. An einem
Auftritt wie 2012, nur blanker Tisch und Tafel, ist mir für dieses Jahr
nicht gelegen. Wie ist Deine Meinung dazu?

-- 
Grüßle
Detlef
Am 17.09.2013 01:18 schrieb "Raphael Bircher" :

> Hi at all
>
> Apache OpenOffice will be at the Linux Day at Dornbirn (Austria) We will
> have a Stand there. The Linux Day Dornbirn is a small event with about 500
> Visitors. It is at 23th November 2013. The organisation runns moastly over
> the german ML and private mails.
>
> People involved:
> -Detlef Nannen (Translator and Tester)
> -Raphael Bircher
>
> The Event is more or less a german speaching event.
>
> Butget: not needed.
>
> Greetings Raphael
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Re: 4.0.1 release and distribution.

2013-09-18 Thread Jürgen Schmidt 
Hi,

sorry for hijacking this thread but independent of the mirror discussion
and future setup constructs we have to provide the bits for our upcoming
AOO 4.0.1.

We do that by uploading first in our home on people and from there to
dist. Currently the upload to people is incredibly slow (30-100K/sec).
Any ideas why it is so slow, I believe it was faster.

Once the upload is complete, the vote finished etc. the files have to be
copied to dist. How should we do that now? We need everything there in
place to allow SF to resync the bits.


Juergen


On 9/16/13 2:59 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 4:44 AM, Henk P. Penning  wrote:
>> On Sat, 14 Sep 2013, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 17:19:32 +0200
>>> From: Andrea Pescetti 
>>> To: Henk P. Penning 
>>> Cc: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: 4.0.1 release and distribution.
>>
>>
>>> Everything was OK in the 4.0 case.
>>
>>
>>   No. Regarding the mirrors, it was not ok.
>>
>>   Fact : 4.0.1 will be put on the mirrors in 4-5 days, adding some
>>  languages every day. That is a technical constraint.
>>
>>   Fact : if AOO announces "too soon", /all/ mirrors will be incomplete.
>>
>>   I'm not discussing here, or looking for a compromise ; I'm telling
>>   you how it is.
>>
>>   AOO can either "do it right" (by waiting a few more days), or not.
>>
> 
> My impression was the only mandatory part of a release was the source
> tarballs and associated signatures and hashes.  These are few and
> small and should not require special handling.
> 
> The "convenience binaries" are optional in an Apache release.  (Some
> even argue that they are not part of the release at all.)  We
> predominately publish these binaries via SourceForge.  Very few get
> these from the Apache mirrors.  But we did receive several requests
> after the 4.0 release to push these binaries onto the mirrors.  (We
> receive even more requests to put them our as BitTorrents)
> 
> I'm hoping that there is some way that we can avoid a secondary
> distribution mechanism from causing a delay in our primary
> distribution mechanism.
> 
> Maybe we can resolve this on the website?  Don't list links to the ASF
> mirrors at initial release.  Just give the SourceForge links.  Then
> after 4-5 days, after we've verified replication, we modify the
> website to also point to the ASF mirrors?
> 
> This gives four stages:
> 
> Stage 1:  Distribute source tarballs, hashes and signatures to Apache
> mirrors.  Wait the usual 24 hours.  In parallel replicate the binaries
> over to SourceForge.
> 
> Stage 2: After the Apache mirrors and SourceForge have their files,
> then we announce.  Website only links to Apache mirrors for source and
> hash/signatures.  Release announcement happens now.
> 
> Stage 3:  We then push out the binaries to the Apache mirrors.  We
> don't start this earlier because we want to prioritize the replication
> of the source, hashes and signatures.
> 
> Stage 4:  After 4-5 days we update website to point to Apache mirrors
> as alternate download site for binaries.
> 
> Would that work?
> 
> -Rob
> 
>>
>>>   Andrea.
>>
>>
>>   Regards,
>>
>>   Henk Penning
>>
>>    _
>> Henk P. Penning, ICT-beta R Uithof BBL-761   _/ \_
>> Faculty of Science, Utrecht UniversityT +31 30 253 4106 / \_/ \
>> Princetonplein 5, 3584CC Utrecht, NL  F +31 30 253 4553 \_/ \_/
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4.0.1_release_blocker requested: [Bug 123283] Client applications broken on Windows

2013-09-18 Thread bugzilla 
Ariel Constenla-Haile  has asked  for
4.0.1_release_blocker:
Bug 123283: Client applications broken on Windows
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123283


--- Additional Comments from Ariel Constenla-Haile 
- Set up the SDK environment
- Build the example in
$OO_SDK_HOME/examples/DevelopersGuide/ProfUNO/SimpleBootstrap_cpp
- Try to execute the example by double-clicking the executable, or from a
command prompt without the SDK enviroment

Bug: the client application cannot be executed, due to missing
cppuhelper3MSC.dll

Looks like the unoapploader.exe is setting bad the PATH environment variable
(main/odk/source/unoapploader/win/unoapploader.c)

Expanding the variable to include the AOO program folder, allows to run the
client application:

set "PATH=C:\Program Files (x86)\OpenOffice 4\program;%PATH%"
C:\OpenOffice_4.0_SDK\WINexample.out\bin\SimpleBootstrap.exe

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Versions???

2013-09-18 Thread LIESSFELD 
 Update versa Download???


Habe Version 3.3.0

Programm sagt: Updaten

Dann erscheint die neue Version 4.0 als Download.

Soll ich downloaden und was passiert mit den Daten von 3.3.0??

Knalle ich den Rechner voll oder wird die ältere Version nur überschrieben??


Thanks for helping.

Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website

2013-09-18 Thread Rory O'Farrell 
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 16:08:41 +0100
Camilla Thomassen  wrote:

> I can't download the english version, it just keeps directing me to the
> danish site.

Try this direct link

http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.0/binaries/en-GB/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Win_x86_install_en-GB.exe

for the Windows version (all on one line)


Or this link
http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html
should take you to the download page. If you are still getting the Danish 
version, you may need to clear the cache in your browser.
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Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website

2013-09-18 Thread Camilla Thomassen 
I can't download the english version, it just keeps directing me to the
danish site.

Re: University Student Promotional Flyer ( was: Re: Yet another flyer)

2013-09-18 Thread Drew Jensen 
Well, hows about we get Google out of the middle.

Take a look at these pieces
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpageattachments.action?pageId=34022580

I've changed the fonts from M+ to, Bitstream Vera Sans for headers and
Times New Roman for body text, so that folks can actually open the odt file.

//drew


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Drew Jensen wrote:

> Sorry - one example of a new piece - this was exported to PDF-A/1 from
> Writer, then imported into Draw (with updated extension) then exported
> again as SVG..
>
> Three-up Bingo Card Tall
> Front
> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IbW9qQzFBbVJpRXc
>
> Back
> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IWXF2ZVoxS18wQjg
>
> as an aside - same Apache logo as the others - you should see what I see
> now, in this svg file.
>
> Catch you all tomorrow.
>
> //drew
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Drew Jensen 
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, I've added a few new pieces, all with what is becoming a common
>> theme of sorts 'Explore Apache OpenOffice' - using a minimal branding (no
>> wave, no wire frame, no dots [yet ;])
>>
>> I will put them all to a single wiki page in the next few days and point
>> folks to that.
>>
>> For now, I've just grabbed the RC2 build and will give Base
>> w/(updated)MySQL_connector as good an exercise as I can tonight.
>>
>> As for the things I've found already, they are all intermittent (though
>> with some they persist till one fixes the corrupted file) so not really
>> worth an update to the issue tracker yet, I suppose. Would still like to
>> know where the darn crash reports are on this Vista system, but I have
>> screen shots with the information so that should be sufficient.
>>
>> //drew
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>
>>> On 09/09/2013 23:40, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>
>>>  On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Drew Jensen wrote:

> That would be good for a one time push, then it's just a matter of
> having
> this stuff reasonably easy to find for folks coming along later - but
> then
> there lay the trick ;)
>
 The key is to extend your targeted persona-based approach (which is a
 very smart approach) with a web page (or a wiki page) that is equally
 targeted and rich in relevant keywords, so it is findable in
 Google/Bing for someone looking for that kind of material.  The
 brochure could then be linked to from that page.

>>>
>>> This is a good approach. For the time being, Drew could also attach his
>>> nice series of brochures to
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**Why+OpenOffice
>>> so that they are not lost in Google Docs and mailing list messages.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>   Andrea.
>>>
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problems with donating to Apache

2013-09-18 Thread Jon 
I cannot figure out on your web site who I should alert, so since this 
is the only email address I found YOU get it.
I tried to donate via paypal but could not.  Maybe you should try 
clicking your paypal link to see what happens...

Amazon

2013-09-18 Thread Drew Jensen 
Howdy,

Just thought I'd touch base on this - if anyone has a contact at Amazon,
and after the dust settles from the release, perhaps a nudge to get them to
update their sales page to 4.0.1. It appears to still be dishing up, or at
least promoting, 3.4.

//drew

New Dev Volunteer

2013-09-18 Thread Tal Daniel 
Hi, I'm Tal, from Israel.

I've joined mainly because I found a bug while editing texts in Writer, in
an Left-to-Right language (Hebrew), which hasn't got any response for over
10 months, so I want to promote, fix, or patch it (
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121193).

Added myself to Directory of Volunteers & localization volunteers in
Confluence Wiki;
Completed Infrastructure module (level 2).
Now I think I need to refresh my C++ skills :)

Keep up the good work, which is vital on the Mac for Hebrew/Arabic native
speakers,
Tal

Re: Web site translation

2013-09-18 Thread Andrea Pescetti 

On 17/09/2013 Rob Weir wrote:

What is the procedure now for translating 4.0 release notes?  We
locked that wiki page to prevent accidental changes, right?  If so,
who can initialize new pages for translation?  Pedro wants to start
the Portuguese translation.


We didn't lock it. At least, I cannot see any active restrictions there 
now. We merely added explanations for translators (bottom of page).


So anybody should be allowed to create a child page and start a new 
translation (even though the attachments will not be available).


Christos created the mechanism Pedro was referring to, but I have never 
tried it. Maybe using Christos' mechanism solves the problem of having 
to reattach screenshots and so on. But it seems it was overwritten by 
the Finnish translation.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Service Unavailable error when trying to visit wiki.openoffice.org

2013-09-18 Thread Tae Wong 
Please stop sending us a CC since you're not subscribed to this mailing list.

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Re: 2013 InfoWorld Bossie (Best of Open Source) Awards

2013-09-18 Thread Kay Schenk 
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:

> We picked up an award in the desktop and mobile software category:
>
>
> http://www.infoworld.com/slideshow/119867/bossie-awards-2013-the-best-open-source-desktop-and-mobile-software-226979#slide8
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
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SO nice to see this! Go team! :)



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Re: Suggestion: Mailing list warning needed?

2013-09-18 Thread Kay Schenk 
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:25 AM, Rory O'Farrell  wrote:

> On the Wiki page which gives links to the mailing lists, I think there
> ought be a prominent warning that certain lists are high traffic lists
> (many messages per day) and that people should consider seriously whether
> they can cope with this.
>
> Perhaps the subscription process should require an extra confirmation step
> to prevent inadvertent or malicious subscription?
>
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On the mailing list page:
http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html

only the "dev" list has information concerning amount of traffic --

"This is a high traffic list, with an average of 88 posts/day."

Do other lists need info also? Does the info for the "dev" list need more
emphasis or need to be changed?


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Re: Does our "Decision Making" information need additional instructions?

2013-09-18 Thread Kay Schenk 
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:

> On 9/10/13, Rob Weir  wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Alexandro Colorado 
> wrote:
> >> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Kay Schenk 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Alexandro Colorado 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > I have recently been impact, on this lack of decision making tasks
> not
> >>> > being followed (ignoring 72 hr limit, etc) basically breaking the
> >>> process.
> >>> > So I have a few comments on this.
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> I think you're referring to using "lazy concensus" .
> >>>
> >>> https://openoffice.apache.org/docs/governance/lazyConsensus.html
> >>> https://community.apache.org/committers/lazyConsensus.html
> >>>
> >>> One of the important aspects of Lazy Consensus is that it should be
> >>> stated
> >>> at the outset of a communication that this is what will be in effect
> for
> >>> whatever is proposed. In other words, proposing something and stating
> >>> that
> >>> you will be using Lazy Consensus to implement whatever it is you might
> >>> want
> >>> to do is critical to this particular process.
> >>>
> >>> So far, I am finding 2 threads that seem to relate to all this:
> >>>
> >>> [1] http://markmail.org/message/hsdepqzlfvh33pdr
> >>> (proposals for wiki, forum , web site extensions, etc)
> >>>
> >>> and yes,I did vote +1 on the one design I saw in the issue and using
> it,
> >>> but mine was only ONE vote in a series of other comments.
> >>>
> >>> and this one, more recent
> >>>
> >>> [2] http://markmail.org/message/wlvv7gsnsmcurwfv
> >>>
> >>> in which there is  claim that something was proposed. Based on the
> first
> >>> thread, all I see are suggestions for designs and discussion, but no
> >>> specific proposal.
> >>>
> >>> So, no proposal, no broken "lazy consensus" process.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > One important part is focusing on the meritocracy aspect of FLOSS. Is
> >>> > important not only to have a bug but an 'evidence'. Everyone has the
> >>> right
> >>> > to a voice and have their opinion on implementations. However I think
> >>> that
> >>> > the impact of that voice should be accompany with actual evidence,
> and
> >>> > would go into even having to propose an alternative. Deny things for
> >>> > the
> >>> > sole case of  opinion shouldn't be enforced,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> We have a process here at the ASF. Denying something, and I take this
> to
> >>> mean denying implementing something, based on opinion is what
> discussion
> >>> and building consensus is all about.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Exactly why we should consider a more efficient way of discussing it. (I
> >> thought you are proposing changes to the DM process) for the reasons
> >> explained.
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > otherwise this will leave us
> >>> > to have many unverifiable opinions at a very low cost (think of spam
> >>> > for
> >>> > bitmessage) slowing the project down.
> >>> >
> >>> > There should also be a 'good enough' flag deadline after a certain
> >>> > period
> >>> > of time to get out of locked-in discussions. This is usually used on
> >>> power
> >>> > negotiations (HBR article on the topic:
> >>> > http://hbswk.hbs.edu/archive/4354.html).
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> We have Lazy Consensus and other "decision making" processes.The ideas
> >>> in
> >>> the article you have above are not the way we make decisions at  Apache
> >>> OpenOffice.
> >>> Lazy Consensus comes close, but, again, this must be explicitly stated
> >>> --
> >>>
> >> This sounds a bit of a technicality 'you didnt use blue ink to fill out
> >> your form' kind of situation.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> or else other participants don't have any idea if you're just
> discussing
> >>> something or actually intend to do something.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Not sure I understand you here. Why would anyone discuss anything for
> >> just
> >> the fun of discussing it?
> >>
> >
> > Something we do see:   Someone talk about an idea, but it is not
> > something that they are wiling/able to do.  They just think it is a
> > good idea.  But unless someone volunteers it is just talk.
> >
> > I'm not saying yours was an example like this, but it is good to be
> > explicit.
> >
> > A semi-humorous example of one approach is here:
> >
> > http://markmail.org/message/rn2uentbgqipx2a5
> >
> > The exact format is not critical, but that is one way a committer can
> > make it crystal clear.
>
> I understand conventions, I would like to see more conventions myself,
> I dont understand however when proposal is not a proposal because it
> didnt say [PROPOSAL]. We have a similar conversation on using dev@ for
> support etc.
>

In my opinion, to a great extent, it depends on the message content. We
don't' always adhere to the [PROPOSAL]/[LAZY PROPOSAL] tag, though that
would certainly make things more clear.

When I see a statement posted on this list like:

"Page X has a false statement on it, and unless anyone objects over the
next day or so, I will fix it."

regardless of what the subject matt

Re: Does our "Decision Making" information need additional instructions?

2013-09-18 Thread Alexandro Colorado 
On 9/18/13, Kay Schenk  wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:
>
>> On 9/10/13, Rob Weir  wrote:
>> > On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Alexandro Colorado 
>> wrote:
>> >> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Kay Schenk 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Alexandro Colorado 
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> > I have recently been impact, on this lack of decision making tasks
>> not
>> >>> > being followed (ignoring 72 hr limit, etc) basically breaking the
>> >>> process.
>> >>> > So I have a few comments on this.
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>> I think you're referring to using "lazy concensus" .
>> >>>
>> >>> https://openoffice.apache.org/docs/governance/lazyConsensus.html
>> >>> https://community.apache.org/committers/lazyConsensus.html
>> >>>
>> >>> One of the important aspects of Lazy Consensus is that it should be
>> >>> stated
>> >>> at the outset of a communication that this is what will be in effect
>> for
>> >>> whatever is proposed. In other words, proposing something and stating
>> >>> that
>> >>> you will be using Lazy Consensus to implement whatever it is you
>> >>> might
>> >>> want
>> >>> to do is critical to this particular process.
>> >>>
>> >>> So far, I am finding 2 threads that seem to relate to all this:
>> >>>
>> >>> [1] http://markmail.org/message/hsdepqzlfvh33pdr
>> >>> (proposals for wiki, forum , web site extensions, etc)
>> >>>
>> >>> and yes,I did vote +1 on the one design I saw in the issue and using
>> it,
>> >>> but mine was only ONE vote in a series of other comments.
>> >>>
>> >>> and this one, more recent
>> >>>
>> >>> [2] http://markmail.org/message/wlvv7gsnsmcurwfv
>> >>>
>> >>> in which there is  claim that something was proposed. Based on the
>> first
>> >>> thread, all I see are suggestions for designs and discussion, but no
>> >>> specific proposal.
>> >>>
>> >>> So, no proposal, no broken "lazy consensus" process.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> > One important part is focusing on the meritocracy aspect of FLOSS.
>> >>> > Is
>> >>> > important not only to have a bug but an 'evidence'. Everyone has
>> >>> > the
>> >>> right
>> >>> > to a voice and have their opinion on implementations. However I
>> >>> > think
>> >>> that
>> >>> > the impact of that voice should be accompany with actual evidence,
>> and
>> >>> > would go into even having to propose an alternative. Deny things
>> >>> > for
>> >>> > the
>> >>> > sole case of  opinion shouldn't be enforced,
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> We have a process here at the ASF. Denying something, and I take this
>> to
>> >>> mean denying implementing something, based on opinion is what
>> discussion
>> >>> and building consensus is all about.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Exactly why we should consider a more efficient way of discussing it.
>> >> (I
>> >> thought you are proposing changes to the DM process) for the reasons
>> >> explained.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> > otherwise this will leave us
>> >>> > to have many unverifiable opinions at a very low cost (think of
>> >>> > spam
>> >>> > for
>> >>> > bitmessage) slowing the project down.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > There should also be a 'good enough' flag deadline after a certain
>> >>> > period
>> >>> > of time to get out of locked-in discussions. This is usually used
>> >>> > on
>> >>> power
>> >>> > negotiations (HBR article on the topic:
>> >>> > http://hbswk.hbs.edu/archive/4354.html).
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>> We have Lazy Consensus and other "decision making" processes.The
>> >>> ideas
>> >>> in
>> >>> the article you have above are not the way we make decisions at
>> >>> Apache
>> >>> OpenOffice.
>> >>> Lazy Consensus comes close, but, again, this must be explicitly
>> >>> stated
>> >>> --
>> >>>
>> >> This sounds a bit of a technicality 'you didnt use blue ink to fill
>> >> out
>> >> your form' kind of situation.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> or else other participants don't have any idea if you're just
>> discussing
>> >>> something or actually intend to do something.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Not sure I understand you here. Why would anyone discuss anything for
>> >> just
>> >> the fun of discussing it?
>> >>
>> >
>> > Something we do see:   Someone talk about an idea, but it is not
>> > something that they are wiling/able to do.  They just think it is a
>> > good idea.  But unless someone volunteers it is just talk.
>> >
>> > I'm not saying yours was an example like this, but it is good to be
>> > explicit.
>> >
>> > A semi-humorous example of one approach is here:
>> >
>> > http://markmail.org/message/rn2uentbgqipx2a5
>> >
>> > The exact format is not critical, but that is one way a committer can
>> > make it crystal clear.
>>
>> I understand conventions, I would like to see more conventions myself,
>> I dont understand however when proposal is not a proposal because it
>> didnt say [PROPOSAL]. We have a similar conversation on using dev@ for
>> support etc.
>>
>
> In my opinion, to a great extent, it depends on the message content. We
> don't' always adhere to the [PROPOSAL]/

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RE: EXTERNAL: Re: Building comphelper

2013-09-18 Thread Steele, Raymond 
 I was doing a dmake clean in the main directory. Apparently, it was not 
removing the solver dir.  

From: Herbert Duerr [h...@apache.org]
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:33 AM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: Steele, Raymond
Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Building comphelper

Hi Raymond,

On 16.09.2013 19:40, Steele, Raymond wrote:
> I removed the -library=no%Cstd from the two files and performed a clean 
> build, but still have the same issues. Also, I am untarring the BOOST package 
> version 1.48  so I downloaded the zipped version and unzipped it, placed the 
> resulting boost directory in /usr/local/include after using 
> --with-system-boost configuration. Still no luck.  I also reconfigured with 
> --without-stlport.

> It still appears that I it is using 
> /opt/aoo-4.0.0/main/solver/400/unxsoli4.pro/inc/stl/climits.SUNWCCh.

This file should and cannot be there if the --without-stlport build was
clean. For its recipe see main/stlport/makefile.mk. Please retry doing
the --without-stlport clean build, i.e. main/solver and */unxsoli4.pro
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RE: EXTERNAL: Re: Building comphelper

2013-09-18 Thread Steele, Raymond 
I found hash_set in ../main/stlport/systemstl 

Is that where it is supposed to be. Once, I added this to my SOLARINC and 
SOLARINV environment variables, everything was okay, but then I received a

"/usr/local/include/boost/tr1/detail/config_all.hpp", line 161: Error: Could 
not open include file<../include/utility>



From: Herbert Dürr [h...@apache.org]
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:44 AM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: Steele, Raymond
Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Building comphelper

Hi Raymond,

On 16.09.2013 22:04, Steele, Raymond wrote:
> I was wrong I thought the I set the --without-stlport flag, but did not. I 
> just set it and reconfigured.  Now I am receiving this.
>
> Entering /opt/aoo-4.0.0/main/sal/rtl/source
>
> --- ALWAYSDBGFILES ---
> --- ALWAYSDBGFILES OVER ---
> Compiling: sal/rtl/source/hash.cxx
> "/opt/aoo-4.0.0/main/sal/rtl/source/hash.cxx", line 32: Error: Could not open 
> include file.

This missing file (hash_set) should be in
 main/solver/400/unxsoli4.pro/inc/stl/
as soon as the module main/stlport was built. What are the include paths
(the "-Ixxx" options) for hash.cxx when when you build with the
"verbose=true" build option?

Herbert


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Open office 4.0.0 --> Throwing Error ==> System.Runtime.InteropServices.SEHException (0x80004005): External component has thrown an exception

2013-09-18 Thread Shinde, Satish 
Dear Team,

I have created one class in C# to convert ".doc, .docx, etc" documents to PDF 
tried using open office version 4.0.0.

Note : Software's (Open Office 4.0.0 / Open office SDK ) are not installed on 
my PC . I am only using required 5 dll's along with sopen.exe.

When I run the application it is giving error at

public static void ConvertToPdf(string inputFile, string outputFile)
{
if (ConvertExtensionToFilterType(Path.GetExtension(inputFile)) == 
null)
throw new InvalidProgramException("Unknown file type for 
OpenOffice. File = " + inputFile);
StartOpenOffice();  //Get a 
ComponentContext
var xLocalContext = Bootstrap.bootstrap();

==> Throwing error detailed below

System.Runtime.InteropServices.SEHException (0x80004005): External component 
has thrown an exception.
   at 
cppu.defaultBootstrap_InitialComponentContext(Reference*
 )
   at uno.util.Bootstrap.defaultBootstrap_InitialComponentContext(String 
ini_file, IDictionaryEnumerator bootstrap_parameters)

I tried with many few solutions but not able to resolve this issue and found 
email addresses on the link 
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?format=multiple&id=122007.

Please provide the solution to this problem.

Detailed code is as given below.


public static void ConvertToPdf(string inputFile, string outputFile)
{
if (ConvertExtensionToFilterType(Path.GetExtension(inputFile)) == 
null)
throw new InvalidProgramException("Unknown file type for 
OpenOffice. File = " + inputFile);
StartOpenOffice();  //Get a ComponentContext
var xLocalContext = Bootstrap.bootstrap();  //Get 
MultiServiceFactory
var xRemoteFactory = 
(XMultiServiceFactory)xLocalContext.getServiceManager(); //Get a 
CompontLoader
var aLoader = (XComponentLoader) 
xRemoteFactory.createInstance("com.sun.star.frame.Desktop"); //Load the 
sourcefile
XComponent xComponent = null;
try
{
xComponent = InitDocument(aLoader,PathConverter(inputFile), 
"_blank"); //Wait for loading
while (xComponent == null)
{
Thread.Sleep(1000);
}  // save/export the document

SaveDocument(xComponent, inputFile, PathConverter(outputFile));
}
finally
{
if (xComponent != null) xComponent.dispose();
}
}



private static void StartOpenOffice()
{
var ps = Process.GetProcessesByName("soffice.exe");
if (ps.Length != 0)
throw new InvalidProgramException("OpenOffice not found. Is 
OpenOffice installed?");
if (ps.Length > 0)
return;
string sOfficePath = ConfigSettings.OpenOfficeExePath;
var p = new Process {
 StartInfo = { Arguments = "-headless -nofirststartwizard", 
FileName = sOfficePath +"soffice.exe", CreateNoWindow = true }
 };
var result = p.Start();
if (result == false)
 throw new InvalidProgramException("OpenOffice failed to start.");
}


private static XComponent InitDocument(XComponentLoader aLoader, string 
file, string target)
{
var openProps = new PropertyValue[1];
openProps[0] = new PropertyValue { Name = "Hidden", Value = new 
Any(true) };
var xComponent = aLoader.loadComponentFromURL(file, target, 0, 
openProps);
return xComponent;
}

private static void SaveDocument(XComponent xComponent, string 
sourceFile, string destinationFile)
{ var propertyValues = new PropertyValue[2]; // Setting the 
flag for overwriting
propertyValues[1] = new PropertyValue {Name = "Overwrite", Value = 
new Any(true)};
 Setting the filter name
propertyValues[0] = new PropertyValue
{
Name = "FilterName",Value = new 
Any(ConvertExtensionToFilterType(Path.GetExtension(sourceFile)))
};
((XStorable) xComponent).storeToURL(destinationFile, 
propertyValues);
}

private static string PathConverter(string file)
{
if (string.IsNullOrEmpty(file))
throw new NullReferenceException("Null or empty path passed to 
OpenOffice");
return String.Format("file:///{0}", file.Replace(@"\", "/"));
}

public static string ConvertExtensionToFilterType(string extension)
{
switch (extension)
{
case ".doc":
case ".docx":
case ".txt":
case ".rtf":
case ".html":
case ".htm":
case ".xml":
case ".od

students participating in OOo

2013-09-18 Thread Cem Kaner 
I just noticed a request for professors to let you know when their students
are joining the OOo projects.

 

I teach courses in software testing at Florida Tech (Florida Tech students)
and through Kaner/Fiedler Associates (you'll see students from companies
coming through us, such as, currently, Progressive Insurance). One of each
of these classes is actively working with OOo right now.

 

These are the BBST courses, which the Association for Software Testing and
Arizona State also teach. Other places teach them too, but those are the
groups that I know currently follow my suggestion to work on OpenOffice.

 

Students in these classes review two unconfirmed bugs each, posting comments
on the OOo database that are intended to help you confirm or reject a bug.
They also write evaluations of the communication quality of the bug reports,
which our class sees but your bug reporters don't see (some of the
evaluations are unflattering; there is no value in insulting volunteers by
publicly critiquing their reports).

 

If you're curious, I can send you a copy of the assignment. I generally
teach two university courses and 2-3 corporate courses per year. ASU
teaches, I think, two courses. 

 

If you wanted to encourage this, the best support you could give us would be
to confirm or reject bugs quickly after we studied them, or to post comments
on the bug that followed up on our notes (e.g. asked additional questions).
If you are happy to give this kind of fast feedback, I could send you a list
of the volunteers on your project who are willing to be identified to you as
our students (privacy laws require me to get their permission).

 

Cordially

 

Cem Kaner, JD., Ph.D.

www.kaner.com

Professor of Software Engineering, Florida Tech

Re: students participating in OOo

2013-09-18 Thread Alexandro Colorado 
Hello,  comments inline:


On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Cem Kaner  wrote:

> I just noticed a request for professors to let you know when their students
> are joining the OOo projects.
>
>
>
> I teach courses in software testing at Florida Tech (Florida Tech students)
> and through Kaner/Fiedler Associates (you'll see students from companies
> coming through us, such as, currently, Progressive Insurance). One of each
> of these classes is actively working with OOo right now.
>

​That's great news.​ We could write an article on our blog as a case study
in the future.

These are the BBST courses, which the Association for Software Testing and
> Arizona State also teach. Other places teach them too, but those are the
> groups that I know currently follow my suggestion to work on OpenOffice.
>
>
>
> Students in these classes review two unconfirmed bugs each, posting
> comments
> on the OOo database that are intended to help you confirm or reject a bug.
>

​Are you talking about bugzilla @ https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ ?​



> They also write evaluations of the communication quality of the bug
> reports,
> which our class sees but your bug reporters don't see (some of the
> evaluations are unflattering; there is no value in insulting volunteers by
> publicly critiquing their reports).
>

​We have a Quality Assurance mailing list, this will insure the bugs  get
at least the right amount of attention.​

​However is important these bugs are correctly documented, please check out
these instructions on how to write a bug:
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/HowToFileIssue​


If you're curious, I can send you a copy of the assignment. I generally
> teach two university courses and 2-3 corporate courses per year. ASU
> teaches, I think, two courses.
>

​It would be more helpful to have the bug report # so we can review them on
the list.


> If you wanted to encourage this, the best support you could give us would
> be
> to confirm or reject bugs quickly after we studied them, or to post
> comments
> on the bug that followed up on our notes (e.g. asked additional questions).
>

​Unfortunately we don't have the resources to confirm all the bugs that get
generated by users or testers. You are welcome however to become a tester
or a developer and submit the patches required. You can bring questions
regarding the coding convention and the possible development solutions with
the other developers and test the new patch on our nightly builds.



> If you are happy to give this kind of fast feedback, I could send you a
> list
> of the volunteers on your project who are willing to be identified to you
> as
> our students (privacy laws require me to get their permission).
>

​It would be more of use, if the students themselves come forward either on
this list, or the QA one to talk about the current reports.​



>
>
>
> Cordially
>
>
>
> Cem Kaner, JD., Ph.D.
>
> www.kaner.com
>
> Professor of Software Engineering, Florida Tech
>
>
>
>


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