Re: [RELEASE] Update 4.0 planning items

[Shenfeng Liu]

Hi, all,
  I updated the planning wiki and moved most proposed feature/enhancement
with no owner from
4.0to
4.1.
  And I left "Encryption GUI" still in 4.0 for now, since TJ is discussing
the UI design and trying to get developer volunteer for this item. So I
suggest we revisit this item later (January?).

  Next, I'd like our owners to double check the following proposed items
and confirm if each of them can/should be in 4.0 (current target is to
release in April 2013). Again, I will move out those having no confirmation
after 1 week. (of course, any one is free to propose them back any time).

enhanced extensions manager The extensions manager should support
multiple repositories. Either via UI or via configuration only. - jsc
OpenSocial support Enable 'sharing' to OpenSocial container's Activity
Streams for document, chart, or spreadsheet review & comment - Kevin
Grignon (UX design)
MacOS support with Java dropped  - Herbert Duerr
Usability improvement in Ctrl+A and mouse operations in tables and sections
- Cheng Jian Hong
Interoperability improvement with MS Word 2007/2010 on Shape support  -
Zhang Ying
XLS loading performance with multiple pivot tables  - Wang Lei
Speaker notes support in normal view   - Chen Jin Hua
Include ODF Toolkit- robweir

  Thanks!


- Shenfeng (Simon)



2012/12/8 Jürgen Schmidt 

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> On 12/7/12 3:18 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 08:55:23AM -0500, TJ Frazier wrote:
> >> The "Encryption GUI" item has not attracted a sponsor. I added
> >> this per the resolution of a very long discussion in BZ [1].
> >> Subsequently, Jürgen wrote an extension to set "SHA256" mode, and
> >> I wrote a macro[2] to toggle the settings; both are still
> >> available.  (I have no idea whether any or many users have used
> >> them.)
> >>
> >> [1] 
> >>
> >> [2] 
> >> (this page includes text suitable for release notes)
> >>
> >> If somebody wants to pick up on this, and implement a GUI
> >> (probably in Tools > Options, possibly on the Save and Save As
> >> dialogs), that's wonderful. Lacking all fu for SVN and C++, I
> >> can't volunteer for this.
> >
> > the best way is to start a new thread asking for UX advice where
> > to include the option. IMHO the Save dialogs are a no-go, the
> > average user will have no idea what this means.
> >
> > On the other hand, Tools > Options > Load/Save > General has almost
> > no space to add anything else, but may be a new "Encryption"
> > options page is an overhead...
> >
>
> Mmh, maybe directly over the "Size optimization ..." checkbox.
>
> I have thought initially about Tools -> Options -> OpenOffice.org ->
> Security. There should be enough place for a checkbox with some
> explanation.
>
> Juergen
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Re: IAccessible2

[Shenfeng Liu]

Steve,
  Great progress!
  Could you please update the status on the wiki:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2 ?
  Thanks!


- Shenfeng (Simon)



2012/12/17 Steve Yin 

> Hi,
>
> IAccessible2 bridge related changes were just delivered into cws "ia2". The
> branch can be accessed from
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/ia2/. It is not ready
> for test now.
> Does anyone interest in it? Any suggestions or comments are welcome.
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Steve Yin  wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > A branch named "ia2" was created for AOO IAccessible2 development.
> >
> > The development plan can be found here:
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Steve Yin
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Best Regards,
>
> Steve Yin
>

Correction of mailing list addresses on AOO site and other things

[Gianluca Turconi]

Hello *,

in this page:

http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Contribute

under "Getting Started" section, the "Join the Apache OpenOffice.org Mailing 
List" link is still pointing to ooo-dev-subscr...@incubator.apache.org rather 
than dev-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org

Same thing under "High Priority Tasks" section.

Furthermore, I'm currently testing Google Chrome browser and while accessing 
this secure URL:

https://www.openoffice.org/support/index.html

it displays a rather worrying huge red warning about the site safety... :'(

BTW, was the documentation mailing list already created? I may have missed the 
announcement.

Regards,
-- 
Gianluca Turconi

Re: IAccessible2

[Steve Yin]

Hi Simon,

Thanks for your notification. The wiki was updated.


On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Shenfeng Liu  wrote:

> Steve,
>   Great progress!
>   Could you please update the status on the wiki:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2?
>   Thanks!
>
>
> - Shenfeng (Simon)
>
>
>
> 2012/12/17 Steve Yin 
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > IAccessible2 bridge related changes were just delivered into cws "ia2".
> The
> > branch can be accessed from
> > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/ia2/. It is not
> ready
> > for test now.
> > Does anyone interest in it? Any suggestions or comments are welcome.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Steve Yin 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > A branch named "ia2" was created for AOO IAccessible2 development.
> > >
> > > The development plan can be found here:
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+IAccessible2
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best Regards,
> > >
> > > Steve Yin
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Steve Yin
> >
>



-- 
Best Regards,

Steve Yin

Re: [proposal]: Enhance visualisation of Handles

[Armin Le Grand]

Hi List,

On 16.12.2012 15:30, RGB ES wrote:

2012/12/16 Regina Henschel 


--- snip ---

The buildbot version has it now and I tried it. The transparency for the
anchor icon is really a large improvement. And the handles have a good
compromise between brightness and transparency. The draw center and mirror
axis markers are visible in front of dark backgrounds too.  So I think,
well done. :)

Thanks Regina. Be ensured - if you would have had concerns, I would take 
them serious ;-)

+1!!!

The new handlers are really nice, and the anchor transparency is just
gorgeous!

Thanks Ricardo :-)


Regards
Ricardo



Did someone try the HighContrast setting? (I did, but just to make sure...)
--
ALG

Re: [question] draw...

[Armin Le Grand]

Hi JanI,

On 16.12.2012 18:32, janI wrote:

Hi.

I have to make some 3D construction drawings, I tried to use draw, but is
seems that the 3D functionality is very limited ??
As Regina wrote, it's the same objects in Draw/Impress and all 3D is 
possible to be visualized. The limitations are in the UI (there was 
never the time to e.g. add XYZ-coordinates to the position/size dialog). 
Still, there are good possibilities to do some 3D (see 
http://people.apache.org/~alg/buttons.odg).


What I would like to was to create a half "ball" out of a circle (a dome
for an astromony observatory, a hobby of mine, when I do not work on MWIKI
or l10n), and then add some cutting lines etc, for a mechanic to follow.
Draw your dome as polygon, add curves (after drawing th epolyline) and 
use the draw-tool 'convert in 3D rotation object'. Be aware that the 
rotation axis (which is offered interactively) is on the left of the 
polygon. After that you can no longer change the geometry, but still do 
a lot with the 3D object using the '3D effects' dialog (context menu in 
3D obects). You can switch off perspective there momentarily to be able 
to position/rotate the 3D obejcts more precisely.
Another key to work with 3D is: Scenes are like group objects, you may 
'enter' them by double cklicking. You may have two scenes, enter one, 
CTRL-C one 3D obejct, leave, enter another 3D scene and paste it there.


HTH for a start :-)


Am I wrong or is the 3D support limited to presentation and not really fit
for drawing (in case not is there any work in progress) ?

In case not, can anybody recommend a good tool, where I can import the
files in AOO and write the documents.

I know this is a developer list and not a customer support list, but I hope
anyhow that somehow can give me a hint where to continue.

thanks in advance.
Jan I.

Re: Is mwiki down?

[janI]

The whole server is down

I will contact infra.

rgds
Jan I.


On 17 December 2012 12:22, Shenfeng Liu  wrote:

> I can not access mwiki now... Any one can help to check? Thanks!
>
> - Shenfeng (Simon)
>

Re: Is mwiki down?

[tj]

On 12/17/2012 06:22, Shenfeng Liu wrote:

I can not access mwiki now... Any one can help to check? Thanks!

- Shenfeng (Simon)


Hi, Simon,

Yes, it's down. The link below[1] is very handy for checking on things 
like this.


[1] 


The mwiki is currently marked in red, which should mean that someone in 
Infra is already hustling to fix it.


/tj/

Re: Is mwiki down?

[janI]

I  am on IRC right nowIt was dead and have a power recyclehopefully
it comes up in a minute or two.

jan I.

On 17 December 2012 12:51, tj  wrote:

> On 12/17/2012 06:22, Shenfeng Liu wrote:
>
>> I can not access mwiki now... Any one can help to check? Thanks!
>>
>> - Shenfeng (Simon)
>>
>>  Hi, Simon,
>
> Yes, it's down. The link below[1] is very handy for checking on things
> like this.
>
> [1] 
> 
> >
>
>
> The mwiki is currently marked in red, which should mean that someone in
> Infra is already hustling to fix it.
>
> /tj/
>
>

Re: Correction of mailing list addresses on AOO site and other things

[RGB ES]

2012/12/17 Gianluca Turconi 

> Hello *,
>
> in this page:
>
> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Contribute
>
> under "Getting Started" section, the "Join the Apache OpenOffice.org
> Mailing List" link is still pointing to
> ooo-dev-subscr...@incubator.apache.org rather than
> dev-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org
>
> Same thing under "High Priority Tasks" section.
>

They are ok now



>
> Furthermore, I'm currently testing Google Chrome browser and while
> accessing this secure URL:
>
> https://www.openoffice.org/support/index.html
>
> it displays a rather worrying huge red warning about the site safety... :'(
>

Same here with chromium, firefox, konqueror...

Regards
Ricardo




>
> BTW, was the documentation mailing list already created? I may have missed
> the announcement.
>
> Regards,
> --
> Gianluca Turconi
>
>

Re: Is mwiki down?

[Shenfeng Liu]

It's back now! Thanks for every one!

- Shenfeng (Simon)


2012/12/17 janI 

> I  am on IRC right nowIt was dead and have a power recyclehopefully
> it comes up in a minute or two.
>
> jan I.
>
> On 17 December 2012 12:51, tj  wrote:
>
> > On 12/17/2012 06:22, Shenfeng Liu wrote:
> >
> >> I can not access mwiki now... Any one can help to check? Thanks!
> >>
> >> - Shenfeng (Simon)
> >>
> >>  Hi, Simon,
> >
> > Yes, it's down. The link below[1] is very handy for checking on things
> > like this.
> >
> > [1]  http://monitoring.apache.org/status/>
> > >
> >
> >
> > The mwiki is currently marked in red, which should mean that someone in
> > Infra is already hustling to fix it.
> >
> > /tj/
> >
> >
>

Re: Correction of mailing list addresses on AOO site and other things

[Gianluca Turconi]

Il 17/12/2012 14.06, RGB ES ha scritto:

Same here with chromium, firefox, konqueror...
It seems they display the warning because the domain is 
www.openoffice.org while the certification is for *.apache.org.


An average user may simply skip OO secure website. :(

Regards,

Gianluca

Re: Correction of mailing list addresses on AOO site and other things

[Andrea Pescetti]

Gianluca Turconi wrote:

Il 17/12/2012 14.06, RGB ES ha scritto:

Same here with chromium, firefox, konqueror...

It seems they display the warning because the domain is
www.openoffice.org while the certification is for *.apache.org.


This has been discussed in
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5450

Fact is, did you find any links to the HTTPS site or did you (or a
browser extension for you!) decide to try the HTTPS version? We don't
publicly advertise the HTTPS version and https://ooo-site.apache.org/ is
the recommended URL if someone really wants HTTPS. It shouldn't display
warnings.


BTW, was the documentation mailing list already created? I may have
missed the announcement.


Still in Infra's pipeline... the request was sent but the list has not
been created yet.

Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: Correction of mailing list addresses on AOO site and other things

[Gianluca Turconi]

Il 17/12/2012 14.21, Andrea Pescetti ha scritto:

Gianluca Turconi wrote:

Il 17/12/2012 14.06, RGB ES ha scritto:

Same here with chromium, firefox, konqueror...

It seems they display the warning because the domain is
www.openoffice.org while the certification is for *.apache.org.


This has been discussed in
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5450

Fact is, did you find any links to the HTTPS site or did you (or a
browser extension for you!) decide to try the HTTPS version? We don't
publicly advertise the HTTPS version and https://ooo-site.apache.org/ is
the recommended URL if someone really wants HTTPS. It shouldn't display
warnings.
The secure pages are provided as first result from the DuckDuckGo search 
engine for several AOO related results like this:


https://duckduckgo.com/?q=apache+openoffice+blog&kl=it-it

In other search engines, when you use their secure version for the 
searches, they provide secure versions of any website higher in their 
results list (i.e. on https://www.bing.com/ and https://www.google.com/ 
if you're able to see my same list of results. You know, Bing and Google 
always want to *personalize* your search results... :'(


Regards,

Gianluca

Re: Spam on extensions website

[FR web forum]

Massive spam from several users (fake oxt)

Re: Spam on extensions website

[Roberto Galoppini]

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 4:25 PM, FR web forum  wrote:
> Massive spam from several users (fake oxt)

 Actually is one user who created about 10 fake extensions, not
properly spam I'd say.
 Anyway, all those have been erased, thanks for heads up.

Roberto

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Re: [Blog Draft] Update about Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 @Dec 13

[Yue Helen]

I missed the great event...Thanks for the update! Looking forward to more
users and contributors from China.

Helen

2012/12/17 Shenfeng Liu 

> Hi, all,
>   I just want to give you an update that we had a successful Apache
> OpenOffice session last Thursday (Dec 13) on Apache Asia Road Show 2012
> Beijing.
>   Thanks to Peter, Tao and Da Li for the speech! The topics covered AOO
> general introduction, contributions from local volunteers, how to join
> community and make contribution, and building social/cloud solutions by
> integrating with AOO. We also distributed AOO promotion materials that
> prepared by Da Li.
>   We got more than 100 audience participated in the OpenOffice session
> 14:00-15:00. Most of them are technical people from different companies and
> universities. Per my check during my speech, only <20 had used OpenOffice
> before. So it is really a good promotion of our product and community.
>
>   We are refining the presentations and will publish them later.
>
>   Thanks!
>
>
> - Shenfeng (Simon)
>
>
>
> 2012/12/5 Peter Junge 
>
> > OK.
> >
> > On 12/5/2012 4:55 PM, Shenfeng Liu wrote:
> > > Peter,
> > >Thanks for your comments! I added the speaker names per the
> presenting
> > > sequence.
> > >
> > > 
> > > Apache OpenOffice in Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 at December 13
> > >
> > > Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 will be held at December 13, and
> > Apache
> > > OpenOffice will deliver a session in the conference.
> > > In the Apache OpenOffice session, Peter Junge, Apache OpenOffice PMC
> > > member, will give a speech to introduce Apache OpenOffice, its history
> > and
> > > way in Apache. And other contributors in Beijing, Shenfeng Liu, Hongyun
> > An,
> > > Tao Liu and Dali Liu, will also give their speech to share the best
> > > practice of contributing to the open source community, as well as
> > building
> > > enterprise business and Cloud/Social solution on top of Apache
> > OpenOffice.
> > > Please visit the Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 website and
> register:
> > > http://apacheasiaroadshow04.eventbrite.com . We are looking forward to
> > > seeing you there!
> > >
> > > 
> > > Apache OpenOffice将在12月13日Apache Asia Road Show Beijing
> 2012大会上介绍其发展及解决方案
> > >
> > > Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012将于12月13日在北京中关村软件园举行。届时Apache
> > > OpenOffice将在大会上介绍其发展及相关解决方案。
> > > 在论坛上，Apache OpenOffice项目管理委员会成员Peter Junge将首先介绍Apache
> > > OpenOffice及其历史和发展方向。其他在北京的Apache
> > OpenOffice志愿者，刘慎锋，安红云，刘涛，刘大力等，也会分享在Apache
> > > OpenOffice开源社区做贡献的经验，以及如何基于Apache OpenOffice开发企业应用和云计算及社交解决方案。
> > > 欢迎大家到Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012网站注册：
> > > http://apacheasiaroadshow04.eventbrite.com！让我们共同关注Apache
> > > OpenOffice，共同推动开源社区的发展！
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > >
> > > - Shenfeng (Simon)
> > >
> > >
> > > 2012/12/5 Peter Junge 
> > >
> > >> I would also mention the names of the other speakers. Apart from that
> > it's
> > >> OK.
> > >>
> > >> Peter
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 12/4/2012 11:15 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Shenfeng Liu 
> > wrote:
> > >>>
> >  Don,
> >  Thanks for your suggestion!
> >  Here is my draft of the blog, in English & Chinese. Please
> review
> > and
> >  give your comments!
> >  I found myself not able to edit the blog directly, so I wonder
> if
> > you
> >  or
> >  any one else can help to post? Thanks very much!
> > 
> > 
> > >>> Here is the post, in draft form on the blog:
> > >>> https://blogs.apache.org/**preview/OOo/?previewEntry=**
> > >>> apache_asia_road_show_beijing<
> >
> https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=apache_asia_road_show_beijing
> > >
> > >>>
> > >>> Let me know if it is OK and I will publish it.
> > >>>
> > >>> -Rob
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>   --**--
> >  Apache OpenOffice in Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 at December
> 13
> > 
> >  Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 will be held at December 13, and
> >  Apache
> >  OpenOffice will deliver a session in the conference.
> >  In the Apache OpenOffice session, Peter Junge, Apache OpenOffice PMC
> >  member, will give a speech to introduce Apache OpenOffice, its
> history
> >  and
> >  way in Apache. And other contributors in Beijing will also give
> their
> >  speech to share the best practice of contributing to the open source
> >  community, as well as building enterprise business and Cloud/Social
> >  solution on top of Apache OpenOffice.
> >  Please visit the Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 website and
> > register:
> >  http://apacheasiaroadshow04.**eventbrite.com<
> > http://apacheasiaroadshow04.eventbrite.com>. We are looking forward to
> >  seeing you there!
> > 
> >  ---

Re: AOO trunk build fails with HSQLDB

[Kay Schenk]

On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Pedro Giffuni  wrote:
> Hello Kay;
>
> Yes, I can confirm after solving those two issues,we got OpenOffice building 
> with JDK 7 on FreeBSD:
>
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/editors/openoffice-3-devel/files/
>
> Pedro.

Hey -- thanks for this notice. Well, IMO, we should fix these
supposedly *trivial* issues and get on with java 7. Java 6 is out of
support for *some* time now. We can't expect users to keep an older
version like 6 around.

I will try this when I get a chance -- assuming I can deal with "temp"
file issues.


-- 

MzK

"No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted."

  -- Aesop

Re: AOO trunk build fails with HSQLDB

[Ariel Constenla-Haile]

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 09:10:09AM -0800, Kay Schenk wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Pedro Giffuni  wrote:
> > Hello Kay;
> >
> > Yes, I can confirm after solving those two issues,we got OpenOffice 
> > building with JDK 7 on FreeBSD:
> >
> > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/editors/openoffice-3-devel/files/
> >
> > Pedro.
> 
> Hey -- thanks for this notice. Well, IMO, we should fix these
> supposedly *trivial* issues and get on with java 7. Java 6 is out of
> support for *some* time now. We can't expect users to keep an older
> version like 6 around.

AFAIK the Java base is 1.5 (both source and target). Moving this to 1.7
is a bad idea.


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina


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Re: [WEBSITE] Problem with .htm files

[Kay Schenk]

On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> Hi Andrea,
>
> On Dec 16, 2012, at 2:44 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>
>> Dave Fisher wrote:
>>> I think that we can purge these *.htm duplicates, but if we do it
>>> will be a "sledgehammer" build.
>>
>> It will also be a problem, unless we accompany it with other changes: for 
>> example, http://www.openoffice.org/pt/ would completely break, and all 
>> external sites that now link to some of our .htm files would break too.
>
> Got it.
>
>>> It was intentional. Before doing so we would need to make a group
>>> decision about how to treat the two types of files.
>>
>> Regardless of what templates we apply, the best solution should:
>> 1) Allow a .htaccess redirect/rewrite from .htm to .html (to preserve 
>> existing internal and external links)
>> 2) Have the SVN file names match the URLs: editing a file named "news.htm" 
>> in SVN should not result in a change in a page with URL ".../news.html". The 
>> current handling confuses the CMS too (for example, no diff is reported). So 
>> either we mass-rename files from .htm to .html and rely on 1) above, or we 
>> don't change .htm to .html but publish .htm URLs.
>
> We need only do (1) and I would do it within the httpd config like our 
> existing redirects. Regardless if there are both file1.htm and file1.html in 
> the source, one of these must be removed from the source svn.

Dave, Andrea --

Only ONE copy is in source, the "htm" file. The duplicate gets
generated from CMS -- but the new "html" is the most recent copy (on
the actual web tree) -- generated from "htm".

Could we fix our templating to just continue to allow for "htm"
instead of combing them as we're doing now? maybe that would work. The
web server seems happy enough to server up "htm" in addition to "html"

I don't know what this would do to the "html" file now on the web
server. maybe a  re-publish for say /pt/about would make this new
"html" file go away once we fixed the templating.

Thoughts?

>
> See https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5668 for this request along 
> with a set to avoid an incubator redirect for certain links.
>
> We do not need to do (2) because we already are making this change in the 
> staging and publish. You see no diffs for the old htm files because they are 
> not changed. I do see diffs in the html versions of the pages. Even with the 
> redirect in place, it still makes sense to edit the pages to use *.html and 
> not *.htm in links.
>
>>
>>> There are two different procedures from view.pm used:  ...
>>> There are several templates used from templates/.
>>
>> To me, .htm and .html are not different file types and were never used as 
>> such: I mean, volunteers historically committed .htm or .html according to 
>> their habits, but it doesn't make sense to have different ways of handling 
>> them now. So I would tend to rename all .htm to .html and put the .htaccess 
>> redirect in place, and have only one "type" of HTML files to handle.
>
> I think it is ok to force the pages to be *.html. We should have some 
> consistency. Maybe soon it will be time to start switching openoffice.org to 
> mdtext.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
>>
>> Regards,
>>  Andrea.
>



-- 

MzK

"No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted."

  -- Aesop

Re: AOO trunk build fails with HSQLDB

[Kay Schenk]

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile
 wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 09:10:09AM -0800, Kay Schenk wrote:
>> On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Pedro Giffuni  wrote:
>> > Hello Kay;
>> >
>> > Yes, I can confirm after solving those two issues,we got OpenOffice 
>> > building with JDK 7 on FreeBSD:
>> >
>> > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/editors/openoffice-3-devel/files/
>> >
>> > Pedro.
>>
>> Hey -- thanks for this notice. Well, IMO, we should fix these
>> supposedly *trivial* issues and get on with java 7. Java 6 is out of
>> support for *some* time now. We can't expect users to keep an older
>> version like 6 around.
>
> AFAIK the Java base is 1.5 (both source and target). Moving this to 1.7
> is a bad idea.
>
>
> Regards
> --
> Ariel Constenla-Haile
> La Plata, Argentina

Ariel -- can you elaborate on this?



-- 

MzK

"No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted."

  -- Aesop

Ad Java versions to support ... (Re: AOO trunk build fails with HSQLDB

[Rony G. Flatscher (Apache)]

On 17.12.2012 18:10, Kay Schenk wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Pedro Giffuni  wrote:
>> Hello Kay;
>>
>> Yes, I can confirm after solving those two issues,we got OpenOffice building 
>> with JDK 7 on FreeBSD:
>>
>> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/editors/openoffice-3-devel/files/
>>
>> Pedro.
> Hey -- thanks for this notice. Well, IMO, we should fix these
> supposedly *trivial* issues and get on with java 7. Java 6 is out of
> support for *some* time now. We can't expect users to keep an older
> version like 6 around.
Just a word of caution: businesses tend to keep even very old installations of 
Java, if some
important Java applications are deployed ("never change a running system"). I 
know even of 1.4 (!)
installations, where 1.5 installations are still not uncommon.

So, unlike private persons, who may be inclined to always have the latest and 
best installed/updated
software, companies tend to be much more conservative.

Here is a list of Oracle's supported Java versions, which also indicate that 
services might be still
in place for older versions of Java, even if no public updates are planned 
anymore (excerpt from
):

Major
Release GA Date End of Public Updates  Extended Support

1.4 Feb 2002Oct 2008   Feb 2013
5.0 May 2004Oct 2009   May 2014
6   Dec 2006Feb 2013   Dec 2016
7   July 2011   July 2014  July 2019

As newer Java versions are able to run older classfiles there should not be a 
problem, if the Java
baseline for AOO remains lower than the latest Java version. This would allow 
shops with older Java
installations to run the latest AOO. (AFAIK AOO has Java 5 as its baseline?)

---rony

Re: [WEBSITE] Problem with .htm files

[Dave Fisher]

On Dec 17, 2012, at 9:29 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>> Hi Andrea,
>> 
>> On Dec 16, 2012, at 2:44 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>> 
>>> Dave Fisher wrote:
 I think that we can purge these *.htm duplicates, but if we do it
 will be a "sledgehammer" build.
>>> 
>>> It will also be a problem, unless we accompany it with other changes: for 
>>> example, http://www.openoffice.org/pt/ would completely break, and all 
>>> external sites that now link to some of our .htm files would break too.
>> 
>> Got it.
>> 
 It was intentional. Before doing so we would need to make a group
 decision about how to treat the two types of files.
>>> 
>>> Regardless of what templates we apply, the best solution should:
>>> 1) Allow a .htaccess redirect/rewrite from .htm to .html (to preserve 
>>> existing internal and external links)
>>> 2) Have the SVN file names match the URLs: editing a file named "news.htm" 
>>> in SVN should not result in a change in a page with URL ".../news.html". 
>>> The current handling confuses the CMS too (for example, no diff is 
>>> reported). So either we mass-rename files from .htm to .html and rely on 1) 
>>> above, or we don't change .htm to .html but publish .htm URLs.
>> 
>> We need only do (1) and I would do it within the httpd config like our 
>> existing redirects. Regardless if there are both file1.htm and file1.html in 
>> the source, one of these must be removed from the source svn.
> 
> Dave, Andrea --
> 
> Only ONE copy is in source, the "htm" file. The duplicate gets
> generated from CMS -- but the new "html" is the most recent copy (on
> the actual web tree) -- generated from "htm".
> 
> Could we fix our templating to just continue to allow for "htm"
> instead of combing them as we're doing now?

It can be tried on a local copy. The prospective changes are required in 
lib/view.pm, but exactly what these changes are I am "guessing" at this point.

It will be something about determining which type of page htm vs. html and then 
make the appropriate call here:

I think, but do not know. If someone wants to experiment on a local build then 
I'll give pointers, but I may not have time to check for a day or two.

> maybe that would work. The
> web server seems happy enough to server up "htm" in addition to "html"
> 
> I don't know what this would do to the "html" file now on the web
> server. maybe a  re-publish for say /pt/about would make this new
> "html" file go away once we fixed the templating.

Either way we need to republish those directories somehow to either remove the 
extra htm or the extra html files.

The redirect that has been requested will force all *.htm into *.html which I 
find to be simpler, but may be confusing to volunteers.

Regards,
Dave


> 
> Thoughts?
> 
>> 
>> See https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5668 for this request along 
>> with a set to avoid an incubator redirect for certain links.
>> 
>> We do not need to do (2) because we already are making this change in the 
>> staging and publish. You see no diffs for the old htm files because they are 
>> not changed. I do see diffs in the html versions of the pages. Even with the 
>> redirect in place, it still makes sense to edit the pages to use *.html and 
>> not *.htm in links.
>> 
>>> 
 There are two different procedures from view.pm used:  ...
 There are several templates used from templates/.
>>> 
>>> To me, .htm and .html are not different file types and were never used as 
>>> such: I mean, volunteers historically committed .htm or .html according to 
>>> their habits, but it doesn't make sense to have different ways of handling 
>>> them now. So I would tend to rename all .htm to .html and put the .htaccess 
>>> redirect in place, and have only one "type" of HTML files to handle.
>> 
>> I think it is ok to force the pages to be *.html. We should have some 
>> consistency. Maybe soon it will be time to start switching openoffice.org to 
>> mdtext.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Andrea.
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> MzK
> 
> "No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted."
> 
>  -- Aesop

Re: AOO trunk build fails with HSQLDB

[Ariel Constenla-Haile]

Hi Key,

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 09:30:43AM -0800, Kay Schenk wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Yes, I can confirm after solving those two issues,we got OpenOffice 
> >> > building with JDK 7 on FreeBSD:
> >> >
> >> > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/editors/openoffice-3-devel/files/
> >> >
> >> > Pedro.
> >>
> >> Hey -- thanks for this notice. Well, IMO, we should fix these
> >> supposedly *trivial* issues and get on with java 7. Java 6 is out of
> >> support for *some* time now. We can't expect users to keep an older
> >> version like 6 around.
> >
> > AFAIK the Java base is 1.5 (both source and target). Moving this to 1.7
> > is a bad idea.
> Ariel -- can you elaborate on this?

See Rony's mail.

In the discussion, two things are mixed:

- Java baseline
- supported Java version by our build environment

Currently, the build system does not support JDK 7. This is a draw back
for the people that builds OpenOffice if their system only comes with
JDK 7. So supporting JDK 7 in the build environment may be a good idea
as it would make building easier for new comers.

But we should keep the Java baseline as it is now (Java 1.5), both
source (the source files have code written without using new API
introduced post JDK 1.5) and target (the binaries generated are targeted
to run in a JRE 5). This is for compatibility: with old extensions, LTS
systems with older JRE, etc.

Note that a 1.7 JDK is able to build 1.5 sources and generate 1.5 targeted
binaries, so while supporting JDK 7 in the build environment, we must
ensure that the Java baseline is not touched - or, if the Java baseline
is going to be changed, this has to be carefully discussed (and Java
7 as a baseline is a no-go - AFAIK Mac OS does not support it).


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina


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Re: [WEBSITE] Problem with .htm files

[Daniel Shahaf]

Dave Fisher wrote on Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 10:20:05 -0800:
> 
> On Dec 17, 2012, at 9:29 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> >> Hi Andrea,
> >> 
> >> On Dec 16, 2012, at 2:44 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Dave Fisher wrote:
>  I think that we can purge these *.htm duplicates, but if we do it
>  will be a "sledgehammer" build.
> >>> 
> >>> It will also be a problem, unless we accompany it with other changes: for 
> >>> example, http://www.openoffice.org/pt/ would completely break, and all 
> >>> external sites that now link to some of our .htm files would break too.
> >> 
> >> Got it.
> >> 
>  It was intentional. Before doing so we would need to make a group
>  decision about how to treat the two types of files.
> >>> 
> >>> Regardless of what templates we apply, the best solution should:
> >>> 1) Allow a .htaccess redirect/rewrite from .htm to .html (to preserve 
> >>> existing internal and external links)
> >>> 2) Have the SVN file names match the URLs: editing a file named 
> >>> "news.htm" in SVN should not result in a change in a page with URL 
> >>> ".../news.html". The current handling confuses the CMS too (for example, 
> >>> no diff is reported). So either we mass-rename files from .htm to .html 
> >>> and rely on 1) above, or we don't change .htm to .html but publish .htm 
> >>> URLs.
> >> 
> >> We need only do (1) and I would do it within the httpd config like our 
> >> existing redirects. Regardless if there are both file1.htm and file1.html 
> >> in the source, one of these must be removed from the source svn.
> > 
> > Dave, Andrea --
> > 
> > Only ONE copy is in source, the "htm" file. The duplicate gets
> > generated from CMS -- but the new "html" is the most recent copy (on
> > the actual web tree) -- generated from "htm".
> > 
> > Could we fix our templating to just continue to allow for "htm"
> > instead of combing them as we're doing now?
> 
> It can be tried on a local copy. The prospective changes are required in 
> lib/view.pm, but exactly what these changes are I am "guessing" at this point.
> 
> It will be something about determining which type of page htm vs. html and 
> then make the appropriate call here:
> 
> I think, but do not know. If someone wants to experiment on a local build 
> then I'll give pointers, but I may not have time to check for a day or two.

I think you could define:

sub htm_page {
  my (@r) = html_page @_;
  $r[1] = 'html' if $r[1] eq 'htm';
  @r
}

and then use that in path.pm.

Re: [Templates site]Cannot register

[RGB ES]

2012/11/12 Roberto Galoppini 

> Investigating the problem on our side, I'll let you know in the next hours.
>

It seems it's working now.

Regards
Ricardo


>
> Roberto
>
> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 11:38 PM, jan iversen  >wrote:
>
> > I can just confirm that I have the same problem. To me it seems as if the
> > site changes (from incubator) inhibeted the sending of mails. I trace the
> > html post, and that seems to be ok.
> >
> > rgds
> > Jan I.
> >
> > On 11 November 2012 23:28, RGB ES  wrote:
> >
> > > An user on the ES mailing list have problems registering on the
> Templates
> > > site, so I tried the process... and failed as well.
> > >
> > > After filling the fields on the registering page(1) nothing arrived to
> my
> > > mailbox. Then, I selected the "ask for a new password" ("Solicitar
> nueva
> > > contraseña") option and nothing happened: no mail to my mailbox.
> > >
> > > If I try to register again using the same username and/or email the
> > system
> > > tell me that the user already exists and suggest me to ask for a new
> > > password... process that do not work.
> > >
> > > I never was offered to set a first password so the registration is
> > > completely locked.
> > >
> > > Any idea where the problem is?
> > >
> > > (1) http://templates.openoffice.org/es/user/register
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Ricardo
> > >
> >
>
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Re: [Templates site]Cannot register

[Roberto Galoppini]

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 8:41 PM, RGB ES  wrote:
> 2012/11/12 Roberto Galoppini 
>
>> Investigating the problem on our side, I'll let you know in the next hours.
>>
>
> It seems it's working now.

My apologies, we actually resolved the issue couple of days after your
first email, but I forgot to mention it here.

Roberto

>
> Regards
> Ricardo
>
>
>>
>> Roberto
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 11:38 PM, jan iversen > >wrote:
>>
>> > I can just confirm that I have the same problem. To me it seems as if the
>> > site changes (from incubator) inhibeted the sending of mails. I trace the
>> > html post, and that seems to be ok.
>> >
>> > rgds
>> > Jan I.
>> >
>> > On 11 November 2012 23:28, RGB ES  wrote:
>> >
>> > > An user on the ES mailing list have problems registering on the
>> Templates
>> > > site, so I tried the process... and failed as well.
>> > >
>> > > After filling the fields on the registering page(1) nothing arrived to
>> my
>> > > mailbox. Then, I selected the "ask for a new password" ("Solicitar
>> nueva
>> > > contraseña") option and nothing happened: no mail to my mailbox.
>> > >
>> > > If I try to register again using the same username and/or email the
>> > system
>> > > tell me that the user already exists and suggest me to ask for a new
>> > > password... process that do not work.
>> > >
>> > > I never was offered to set a first password so the registration is
>> > > completely locked.
>> > >
>> > > Any idea where the problem is?
>> > >
>> > > (1) http://templates.openoffice.org/es/user/register
>> > >
>> > > Regards
>> > > Ricardo

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Re: [WEBSITE] Problem with .htm files

[Dave Fisher]

On Dec 17, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:

> Dave Fisher wrote on Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 10:20:05 -0800:
>> 
>> On Dec 17, 2012, at 9:29 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
 Hi Andrea,
 
 On Dec 16, 2012, at 2:44 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
 
> Dave Fisher wrote:
>> I think that we can purge these *.htm duplicates, but if we do it
>> will be a "sledgehammer" build.
> 
> It will also be a problem, unless we accompany it with other changes: for 
> example, http://www.openoffice.org/pt/ would completely break, and all 
> external sites that now link to some of our .htm files would break too.
 
 Got it.
 
>> It was intentional. Before doing so we would need to make a group
>> decision about how to treat the two types of files.
> 
> Regardless of what templates we apply, the best solution should:
> 1) Allow a .htaccess redirect/rewrite from .htm to .html (to preserve 
> existing internal and external links)
> 2) Have the SVN file names match the URLs: editing a file named 
> "news.htm" in SVN should not result in a change in a page with URL 
> ".../news.html". The current handling confuses the CMS too (for example, 
> no diff is reported). So either we mass-rename files from .htm to .html 
> and rely on 1) above, or we don't change .htm to .html but publish .htm 
> URLs.
 
 We need only do (1) and I would do it within the httpd config like our 
 existing redirects. Regardless if there are both file1.htm and file1.html 
 in the source, one of these must be removed from the source svn.
>>> 
>>> Dave, Andrea --
>>> 
>>> Only ONE copy is in source, the "htm" file. The duplicate gets
>>> generated from CMS -- but the new "html" is the most recent copy (on
>>> the actual web tree) -- generated from "htm".
>>> 
>>> Could we fix our templating to just continue to allow for "htm"
>>> instead of combing them as we're doing now?
>> 
>> It can be tried on a local copy. The prospective changes are required in 
>> lib/view.pm, but exactly what these changes are I am "guessing" at this 
>> point.
>> 
>> It will be something about determining which type of page htm vs. html and 
>> then make the appropriate call here:
>> 
>> I think, but do not know. If someone wants to experiment on a local build 
>> then I'll give pointers, but I may not have time to check for a day or two.
> 
> I think you could define:
> 
> sub htm_page {
>  my (@r) = html_page @_;
>  $r[1] = 'html' if $r[1] eq 'htm';
>  @r
> }
> 
> and then use that in path.pm.

Thank you. I'll give that a try in a few hours when I finish my work day.

Meanwhile it is likely that you will delay the JIRA issue. I'll keep you posted 
both here and there.

Regards,
Dave

Re: [WEBSITE] Problem with .htm files

[Dave Fisher]

On Dec 17, 2012, at 12:44 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:

> 
> On Dec 17, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> 
>> Dave Fisher wrote on Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 10:20:05 -0800:
>>> 
>>> On Dec 17, 2012, at 9:29 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>> 
 On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> Hi Andrea,
> 
> On Dec 16, 2012, at 2:44 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> 
>> Dave Fisher wrote:
>>> I think that we can purge these *.htm duplicates, but if we do it
>>> will be a "sledgehammer" build.
>> 
>> It will also be a problem, unless we accompany it with other changes: 
>> for example, http://www.openoffice.org/pt/ would completely break, and 
>> all external sites that now link to some of our .htm files would break 
>> too.
> 
> Got it.
> 
>>> It was intentional. Before doing so we would need to make a group
>>> decision about how to treat the two types of files.
>> 
>> Regardless of what templates we apply, the best solution should:
>> 1) Allow a .htaccess redirect/rewrite from .htm to .html (to preserve 
>> existing internal and external links)
>> 2) Have the SVN file names match the URLs: editing a file named 
>> "news.htm" in SVN should not result in a change in a page with URL 
>> ".../news.html". The current handling confuses the CMS too (for example, 
>> no diff is reported). So either we mass-rename files from .htm to .html 
>> and rely on 1) above, or we don't change .htm to .html but publish .htm 
>> URLs.
> 
> We need only do (1) and I would do it within the httpd config like our 
> existing redirects. Regardless if there are both file1.htm and file1.html 
> in the source, one of these must be removed from the source svn.
 
 Dave, Andrea --
 
 Only ONE copy is in source, the "htm" file. The duplicate gets
 generated from CMS -- but the new "html" is the most recent copy (on
 the actual web tree) -- generated from "htm".
 
 Could we fix our templating to just continue to allow for "htm"
 instead of combing them as we're doing now?
>>> 
>>> It can be tried on a local copy. The prospective changes are required in 
>>> lib/view.pm, but exactly what these changes are I am "guessing" at this 
>>> point.
>>> 
>>> It will be something about determining which type of page htm vs. html and 
>>> then make the appropriate call here:
>>> 
>>> I think, but do not know. If someone wants to experiment on a local build 
>>> then I'll give pointers, but I may not have time to check for a day or two.
>> 
>> I think you could define:
>> 
>> sub htm_page {
>> my (@r) = html_page @_;
>> $r[1] = 'html' if $r[1] eq 'htm';
>> @r
>> }
>> 
>> and then use that in path.pm.
> 
> Thank you. I'll give that a try in a few hours when I finish my work day.
> 
> Meanwhile it is likely that you will delay the JIRA issue. I'll keep you 
> posted both here and there.

Actually the r[1] line needed to be reversed.

Here is the patch about to be applied:

Index: view.pm
===
--- view.pm (revision 1423170)
+++ view.pm (working copy)
@@ -101,6 +101,12 @@
 return Template($template)->render(\%args), html => \%args;
 }
 
+sub htm_page {
+ my (@r) = html_page @_;
+ $r[1] = 'htm' if $r[1] eq 'html';
+ @r
+}
+
 sub sitemap {
 my %args = @_;
 my $template = "content$args{path}";
Index: path.pm
===
--- path.pm (revision 1423170)
+++ path.pm (working copy)
@@ -11,7 +11,7 @@
[qr!rightnav.mdtext$!, single_narrative => { template => 
"navigator.html" }],
[qr!\.mdtext$!, single_narrative => { template => 
"single_narrative.html" }],
[qr!\.html$!, html_page => { template => "html_page.html" }],
-   [qr!\.htm$!, html_page => { template => "html_page.html" }],
+   [qr!\.htm$!, htm_page => { template => "html_page.html" }],
 ) ;
 
 # for specifying interdependencies between the files

We can discuss the cleanup of the old *.html files later.

Regards,
Dave

> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
> 
> 

OSCON CFP Open

[Rob Weir]

I've updated our events calendar
(https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Events+Calendar)
to add the OSCON Call for Participation:
http://www.oscon.com/oscon2013/public/cfp/251

The actual conference is not until July, so our 4.0 release should
already be out by then.

-Rob

Re: Help needed on CMS : How can we bypass template application?

[Rob Weir]

On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Joe Schaefer  wrote:
> Alternately you could write a positive
> regexp and a pass_thru view to view.pm
> a'la
>
> sub pass_thru {
> my %args = @_;
> open my $fh, $args{path} or die "Can't open $args{path}:$!";
> read $fh, my $content, -s $fh;
> return $content, html => %args;
> }
>

Thanks, I like that approach.  After testing locally, and a with a
small modification, I've checked that in.

-Rob

>
>
>
>
>>
>> From: Joe Schaefer 
>>To: "dev@openoffice.apache.org" 
>>Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 11:25 AM
>>Subject: Re: Help needed on CMS : How can we bypass template application?
>>
>>1 or 2 is the easiest to accomplish:
>>just alter the regexps in path.pm to ignore
>>those directories (you'll need a negative pattern
>>so be sure to test it before applying).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> From: Rob Weir 
>>>To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>>>Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 11:23 AM
>>>Subject: Help needed on CMS : How can we bypass template application?
>>>
>>>On the marketing list we're preparing a "content experiment" to try
>>>different variations of social networking icon placement.  The idea is
>>>to increase brand awareness by encouraging downloaders to share the
>>>good news about AOO with their friends.
>>>
>>>As part of this experiment we're creating several variations of the
>>>download page.  But we're changing more than the body.  We're working
>>>directly with the HTML, changing stuff that ordinarily would be done
>>>via the template skeleton, header, footer, etc.  Don't worry, this is
>>>just a mock up. Whatever we learn from this experiment would feed back
>>>into the real template.  However, in order to do this experiment we
>>>need to be able to freely change the page and make, in some cases, 9
>>>different variations of it.
>>>
>>>The problem is if we check in these mockups, the CMS will try to apply
>>>the template.  And that makes a mess, since we already have the
>>>template applied.  (Remember, we're starting from the full HTML).
>>>
>>>So what we're looking for is some easy way we can avoid applying the
>>>site-wide template to a set of web pages.  Since this experimentation
>>>will likely be an ongoing effort, it would be good to have a way that
>>>does not require mucking around with perl script every time.
>>>
>>>Is there any way we can arrange it so:
>>>
>>>1) All files in a given directory, say /content-experiment, are passed
>>>through as-is with no template applied?
>>>
>>>or
>>>
>>>2) All files that match a given naming pattern, say,
>>>-content-experiment.html, skip the templating process
>>>
>>>or
>>>
>>>3) All files with a given  header such as >>property="content-experiment" value="true"> skip the templating
>>>process
>>>
>>>(I think 3 is the most flexible, but not sure how hard this is to code).
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>-Rob
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>

Re: Help needed on CMS : How can we bypass template application?

[Dave Fisher]

On Dec 17, 2012, at 2:18 PM, Rob Weir wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Joe Schaefer  wrote:
>> Alternately you could write a positive
>> regexp and a pass_thru view to view.pm
>> a'la
>> 
>> sub pass_thru {
>>my %args = @_;
>>open my $fh, $args{path} or die "Can't open $args{path}:$!";
>>read $fh, my $content, -s $fh;
>>return $content, html => %args;
>> }
>> 
> 
> Thanks, I like that approach.  After testing locally, and a with a
> small modification, I've checked that in.

We've collided, fyi. I guess my full scan will follow yours. I was applying 
Daniel's htm suggestion with the same comment :-)

Regards,
Dave

> 
> -Rob
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Joe Schaefer 
>>> To: "dev@openoffice.apache.org" 
>>> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 11:25 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Help needed on CMS : How can we bypass template application?
>>> 
>>> 1 or 2 is the easiest to accomplish:
>>> just alter the regexps in path.pm to ignore
>>> those directories (you'll need a negative pattern
>>> so be sure to test it before applying).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 
 From: Rob Weir 
 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
 Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 11:23 AM
 Subject: Help needed on CMS : How can we bypass template application?
 
 On the marketing list we're preparing a "content experiment" to try
 different variations of social networking icon placement.  The idea is
 to increase brand awareness by encouraging downloaders to share the
 good news about AOO with their friends.
 
 As part of this experiment we're creating several variations of the
 download page.  But we're changing more than the body.  We're working
 directly with the HTML, changing stuff that ordinarily would be done
 via the template skeleton, header, footer, etc.  Don't worry, this is
 just a mock up. Whatever we learn from this experiment would feed back
 into the real template.  However, in order to do this experiment we
 need to be able to freely change the page and make, in some cases, 9
 different variations of it.
 
 The problem is if we check in these mockups, the CMS will try to apply
 the template.  And that makes a mess, since we already have the
 template applied.  (Remember, we're starting from the full HTML).
 
 So what we're looking for is some easy way we can avoid applying the
 site-wide template to a set of web pages.  Since this experimentation
 will likely be an ongoing effort, it would be good to have a way that
 does not require mucking around with perl script every time.
 
 Is there any way we can arrange it so:
 
 1) All files in a given directory, say /content-experiment, are passed
 through as-is with no template applied?
 
 or
 
 2) All files that match a given naming pattern, say,
 -content-experiment.html, skip the templating process
 
 or
 
 3) All files with a given  header such as >>> property="content-experiment" value="true"> skip the templating
 process
 
 (I think 3 is the most flexible, but not sure how hard this is to code).
 
 Regards,
 
 -Rob
 
 
 
>>> 
>>> 

Google+ Community

[Rob Weir]

A follow up from a previous note.  We have a new Google+ Community set
up for Apache OpenOffice.  You are welcome to join:

https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/114598373874764163668/communities/103683488250592271079

We've been "beta testing" it for a couple of weeks with a smaller
group.  One advantage, compared to the users mailing list, is the ease
of sharing images.

Regards,

-Rob

Re: Google+ Community

[RGB ES]

2012/12/18 Rob Weir 

> A follow up from a previous note.  We have a new Google+ Community set
> up for Apache OpenOffice.  You are welcome to join:
>
>
> https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/114598373874764163668/communities/103683488250592271079
>
>
I get an "error 404"

Regards
Ricardo




> We've been "beta testing" it for a couple of weeks with a smaller
> group.  One advantage, compared to the users mailing list, is the ease
> of sharing images.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>

Re: Google+ Community

[Ariel Constenla-Haile]

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 8:14 PM, RGB ES  wrote:
> 2012/12/18 Rob Weir 
>
>> A follow up from a previous note.  We have a new Google+ Community set
>> up for Apache OpenOffice.  You are welcome to join:
>>
>>
>> https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/114598373874764163668/communities/103683488250592271079
>>
>>
> I get an "error 404"

try https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/103683488250592271079

Re: Google+ Community

[Galileo Teco Juárez]

Error 404 :(

El lunes, 17 de diciembre de 2012, Ariel Constenla-Haile escribió:

> On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 8:14 PM, RGB ES >
> wrote:
> > 2012/12/18 Rob Weir >
> >
> >> A follow up from a previous note.  We have a new Google+ Community set
> >> up for Apache OpenOffice.  You are welcome to join:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/114598373874764163668/communities/103683488250592271079
> >>
> >>
> > I get an "error 404"
>
> try https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/103683488250592271079
>


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RE: Google+ Community

[Maurice Howe]

Hmmm.  Got a 404 error msg.

Maurice Howe 

-Original Message-
From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] 
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 6:12 PM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: market...@openoffice.apache.org; us...@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Google+ Community

A follow up from a previous note.  We have a new Google+ Community set up
for Apache OpenOffice.  You are welcome to join:

https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/114598373874764163668/communities/103683488250
592271079

We've been "beta testing" it for a couple of weeks with a smaller group.
One advantage, compared to the users mailing list, is the ease of sharing
images.

Regards,

-Rob

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Re: Google+ Community

[Albino Biasutti Neto]

Hi

2012/12/17 Galileo Teco Juárez :
> Error 404 :(

Page G+: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+openoffice/posts

Community G+: https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/103683488250592271079

-- 
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www.albino.ws

Re: Google+ Community

[Rob Weir]

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Maurice Howe  wrote:
> Hmmm.  Got a 404 error msg.
>

The long URL wrapped to another line, which confusing some mail clients.

You can try this shorter URL:   http://s.apache.org/aoo-gpc

Regards,

-Rob

> Maurice Howe
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 6:12 PM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Cc: market...@openoffice.apache.org; us...@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Google+ Community
>
> A follow up from a previous note.  We have a new Google+ Community set up
> for Apache OpenOffice.  You are welcome to join:
>
> https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/114598373874764163668/communities/103683488250
> 592271079
>
> We've been "beta testing" it for a couple of weeks with a smaller group.
> One advantage, compared to the users mailing list, is the ease of sharing
> images.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
>
> -
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 2013.0.2805 / Virus Database: 2637/5965 - Release Date: 12/16/12
>
>
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> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
>

Re: OSCON CFP Open

[Albino Biasutti Neto]

HI

2012/12/17 Rob Weir :
> I've updated our events calendar
> (https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Events+Calendar)
> to add the OSCON Call for Participation:
> http://www.oscon.com/oscon2013/public/cfp/251

We could put users or members who will be making Lectures events in
another column.


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Re: [WEBSITE] Problem with .htm files

[Dave Fisher]

Hi All,

All done. .htm files remain .htm files on the server.

The last step was to make sure that the SSI happened via the .htaccess.

Later we will need to purge the duplicates.

Regards,
Dave


On Dec 17, 2012, at 2:11 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:

> 
> On Dec 17, 2012, at 12:44 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Dec 17, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
>> 
>>> Dave Fisher wrote on Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 10:20:05 -0800:
 
 On Dec 17, 2012, at 9:29 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
 
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Dave Fisher  
> wrote:
>> Hi Andrea,
>> 
>> On Dec 16, 2012, at 2:44 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>> 
>>> Dave Fisher wrote:
 I think that we can purge these *.htm duplicates, but if we do it
 will be a "sledgehammer" build.
>>> 
>>> It will also be a problem, unless we accompany it with other changes: 
>>> for example, http://www.openoffice.org/pt/ would completely break, and 
>>> all external sites that now link to some of our .htm files would break 
>>> too.
>> 
>> Got it.
>> 
 It was intentional. Before doing so we would need to make a group
 decision about how to treat the two types of files.
>>> 
>>> Regardless of what templates we apply, the best solution should:
>>> 1) Allow a .htaccess redirect/rewrite from .htm to .html (to preserve 
>>> existing internal and external links)
>>> 2) Have the SVN file names match the URLs: editing a file named 
>>> "news.htm" in SVN should not result in a change in a page with URL 
>>> ".../news.html". The current handling confuses the CMS too (for 
>>> example, no diff is reported). So either we mass-rename files from .htm 
>>> to .html and rely on 1) above, or we don't change .htm to .html but 
>>> publish .htm URLs.
>> 
>> We need only do (1) and I would do it within the httpd config like our 
>> existing redirects. Regardless if there are both file1.htm and 
>> file1.html in the source, one of these must be removed from the source 
>> svn.
> 
> Dave, Andrea --
> 
> Only ONE copy is in source, the "htm" file. The duplicate gets
> generated from CMS -- but the new "html" is the most recent copy (on
> the actual web tree) -- generated from "htm".
> 
> Could we fix our templating to just continue to allow for "htm"
> instead of combing them as we're doing now?
 
 It can be tried on a local copy. The prospective changes are required in 
 lib/view.pm, but exactly what these changes are I am "guessing" at this 
 point.
 
 It will be something about determining which type of page htm vs. html and 
 then make the appropriate call here:
 
 I think, but do not know. If someone wants to experiment on a local build 
 then I'll give pointers, but I may not have time to check for a day or two.
>>> 
>>> I think you could define:
>>> 
>>> sub htm_page {
>>> my (@r) = html_page @_;
>>> $r[1] = 'html' if $r[1] eq 'htm';
>>> @r
>>> }
>>> 
>>> and then use that in path.pm.
>> 
>> Thank you. I'll give that a try in a few hours when I finish my work day.
>> 
>> Meanwhile it is likely that you will delay the JIRA issue. I'll keep you 
>> posted both here and there.
> 
> Actually the r[1] line needed to be reversed.
> 
> Here is the patch about to be applied:
> 
> Index: view.pm
> ===
> --- view.pm   (revision 1423170)
> +++ view.pm   (working copy)
> @@ -101,6 +101,12 @@
> return Template($template)->render(\%args), html => \%args;
> }
> 
> +sub htm_page {
> + my (@r) = html_page @_;
> + $r[1] = 'htm' if $r[1] eq 'html';
> + @r
> +}
> +
> sub sitemap {
> my %args = @_;
> my $template = "content$args{path}";
> Index: path.pm
> ===
> --- path.pm   (revision 1423170)
> +++ path.pm   (working copy)
> @@ -11,7 +11,7 @@
>   [qr!rightnav.mdtext$!, single_narrative => { template => 
> "navigator.html" }],
>   [qr!\.mdtext$!, single_narrative => { template => 
> "single_narrative.html" }],
>   [qr!\.html$!, html_page => { template => "html_page.html" }],
> - [qr!\.htm$!, html_page => { template => "html_page.html" }],
> + [qr!\.htm$!, htm_page => { template => "html_page.html" }],
> ) ;
> 
> # for specifying interdependencies between the files
> 
> We can discuss the cleanup of the old *.html files later.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 

Chinese list (was Re: [Blog Draft] Update about Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 @Dec 13)

[Pedro Giffuni]

Hello;

FWIW, one idea that I left floating during ApacheConEU was the creation of
a chinese list. Imacat was working on it, no idea if it the idea is still alive 
or
waiting for volunteers to help moderate, etc.

Pedro.


- Messaggio originale -
> Da: Yue Helen 
> 
> I missed the great event...Thanks for the update! Looking forward to more
> users and contributors from China.
> 
> Helen
> 
> 2012/12/17 Shenfeng Liu 
> 
>>  Hi, all,
>>    I just want to give you an update that we had a successful Apache
>>  OpenOffice session last Thursday (Dec 13) on Apache Asia Road Show 2012
>>  Beijing.
>>    Thanks to Peter, Tao and Da Li for the speech! The topics covered AOO
>>  general introduction, contributions from local volunteers, how to join
>>  community and make contribution, and building social/cloud solutions by
>>  integrating with AOO. We also distributed AOO promotion materials that
>>  prepared by Da Li.
>>    We got more than 100 audience participated in the OpenOffice session
>>  14:00-15:00. Most of them are technical people from different companies and
>>  universities. Per my check during my speech, only <20 had used 
> OpenOffice
>>  before. So it is really a good promotion of our product and community.
>> 
>>    We are refining the presentations and will publish them later.
>> 
>>    Thanks!
>> 
>> 
>>  - Shenfeng (Simon)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  2012/12/5 Peter Junge 
>> 
>>  > OK.
>>  >
>>  > On 12/5/2012 4:55 PM, Shenfeng Liu wrote:
>>  > > Peter,
>>  > >    Thanks for your comments! I added the speaker names per the
>>  presenting
>>  > > sequence.
>>  > >
>>  > > 
>>  > > Apache OpenOffice in Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 at 
> December 13
>>  > >
>>  > > Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 will be held at December 13, 
> and
>>  > Apache
>>  > > OpenOffice will deliver a session in the conference.
>>  > > In the Apache OpenOffice session, Peter Junge, Apache OpenOffice 
> PMC
>>  > > member, will give a speech to introduce Apache OpenOffice, its 
> history
>>  > and
>>  > > way in Apache. And other contributors in Beijing, Shenfeng Liu, 
> Hongyun
>>  > An,
>>  > > Tao Liu and Dali Liu, will also give their speech to share the 
> best
>>  > > practice of contributing to the open source community, as well as
>>  > building
>>  > > enterprise business and Cloud/Social solution on top of Apache
>>  > OpenOffice.
>>  > > Please visit the Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 website and
>>  register:
>>  > > http://apacheasiaroadshow04.eventbrite.com . We are looking 
> forward to
>>  > > seeing you there!
>>  > >
>>  > > 
>>  > > Apache OpenOffice将在12月13日Apache Asia Road Show Beijing
>>  2012大会上介绍其发展及解决方案
>>  > >
>>  > > Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012将于12月13日在北京中关村软件园举行。届时Apache
>>  > > OpenOffice将在大会上介绍其发展及相关解决方案。
>>  > > 在论坛上，Apache OpenOffice项目管理委员会成员Peter Junge将首先介绍Apache
>>  > > OpenOffice及其历史和发展方向。其他在北京的Apache
>>  > OpenOffice志愿者，刘慎锋，安红云，刘涛，刘大力等，也会分享在Apache
>>  > > OpenOffice开源社区做贡献的经验，以及如何基于Apache OpenOffice开发企业应用和云计算及社交解决方案。
>>  > > 欢迎大家到Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012网站注册：
>>  > > http://apacheasiaroadshow04.eventbrite.com！让我们共同关注Apache
>>  > > OpenOffice，共同推动开源社区的发展！
>>  > >
>>  > > 
>>  > >
>>  > >
>>  > > - Shenfeng (Simon)
>>  > >
>>  > >
>>  > > 2012/12/5 Peter Junge 
>>  > >
>>  > >> I would also mention the names of the other speakers. Apart 
> from that
>>  > it's
>>  > >> OK.
>>  > >>
>>  > >> Peter
>>  > >>
>>  > >>
>>  > >> On 12/4/2012 11:15 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>>  > >>
>>  > >>> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Shenfeng Liu 
> 
>>  > wrote:
>>  > >>>
>>  >  Don,
>>  >      Thanks for your suggestion!
>>  >      Here is my draft of the blog, in English & 
> Chinese. Please
>>  review
>>  > and
>>  >  give your comments!
>>  >      I found myself not able to edit the blog 
> directly, so I wonder
>>  if
>>  > you
>>  >  or
>>  >  any one else can help to post? Thanks very much!
>>  > 
>>  > 
>>  > >>> Here is the post, in draft form on the blog:
>>  > >>> https://blogs.apache.org/**preview/OOo/?previewEntry=**
>>  > >>> apache_asia_road_show_beijing<
>>  >
>> 
> https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=apache_asia_road_show_beijing
>>  > >
>>  > >>>
>>  > >>> Let me know if it is OK and I will publish it.
>>  > >>>
>>  > >>> -Rob
>>  > >>>
>>  > >>>
>>  > >>>
>>  > >>>  
> --**--
>>  >  Apache OpenOffice in Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 
> 2012 at December
>>  13
>>  > 
>>  >  Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 will be held at 
> December 13, and
>>  >  Apache
>>  >  OpenOffice will deliver a session in the conference.
>>  >  In the Apache OpenOffice session, Peter Junge, Apache 
> OpenOffice PMC
>>  >  member, will give a speech to introduce Apache 
> OpenOffi

Re: Chinese list (was Re: [Blog Draft] Update about Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 @Dec 13)

[Rob Weir]

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 8:57 PM, Pedro Giffuni  wrote:
> Hello;
>
> FWIW, one idea that I left floating during ApacheConEU was the creation of
> a chinese list. Imacat was working on it, no idea if it the idea is still 
> alive or
> waiting for volunteers to help moderate, etc.
>

Interesting idea, but two of our committers in China are German
(Peter) and Canadian (Kevin).  So discussing local Chinese marketing
in English would possibly be better for them ;-)

-Rob

> Pedro.
>
>
> - Messaggio originale -
>> Da: Yue Helen
>>
>> I missed the great event...Thanks for the update! Looking forward to more
>> users and contributors from China.
>>
>> Helen
>>
>> 2012/12/17 Shenfeng Liu 
>>
>>>  Hi, all,
>>>I just want to give you an update that we had a successful Apache
>>>  OpenOffice session last Thursday (Dec 13) on Apache Asia Road Show 2012
>>>  Beijing.
>>>Thanks to Peter, Tao and Da Li for the speech! The topics covered AOO
>>>  general introduction, contributions from local volunteers, how to join
>>>  community and make contribution, and building social/cloud solutions by
>>>  integrating with AOO. We also distributed AOO promotion materials that
>>>  prepared by Da Li.
>>>We got more than 100 audience participated in the OpenOffice session
>>>  14:00-15:00. Most of them are technical people from different companies and
>>>  universities. Per my check during my speech, only <20 had used
>> OpenOffice
>>>  before. So it is really a good promotion of our product and community.
>>>
>>>We are refining the presentations and will publish them later.
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>  - Shenfeng (Simon)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  2012/12/5 Peter Junge 
>>>
>>>  > OK.
>>>  >
>>>  > On 12/5/2012 4:55 PM, Shenfeng Liu wrote:
>>>  > > Peter,
>>>  > >Thanks for your comments! I added the speaker names per the
>>>  presenting
>>>  > > sequence.
>>>  > >
>>>  > > 
>>>  > > Apache OpenOffice in Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 at
>> December 13
>>>  > >
>>>  > > Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 will be held at December 13,
>> and
>>>  > Apache
>>>  > > OpenOffice will deliver a session in the conference.
>>>  > > In the Apache OpenOffice session, Peter Junge, Apache OpenOffice
>> PMC
>>>  > > member, will give a speech to introduce Apache OpenOffice, its
>> history
>>>  > and
>>>  > > way in Apache. And other contributors in Beijing, Shenfeng Liu,
>> Hongyun
>>>  > An,
>>>  > > Tao Liu and Dali Liu, will also give their speech to share the
>> best
>>>  > > practice of contributing to the open source community, as well as
>>>  > building
>>>  > > enterprise business and Cloud/Social solution on top of Apache
>>>  > OpenOffice.
>>>  > > Please visit the Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 website and
>>>  register:
>>>  > > http://apacheasiaroadshow04.eventbrite.com . We are looking
>> forward to
>>>  > > seeing you there!
>>>  > >
>>>  > > 
>>>  > > Apache OpenOffice将在12月13日Apache Asia Road Show Beijing
>>>  2012大会上介绍其发展及解决方案
>>>  > >
>>>  > > Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012将于12月13日在北京中关村软件园举行。届时Apache
>>>  > > OpenOffice将在大会上介绍其发展及相关解决方案。
>>>  > > 在论坛上，Apache OpenOffice项目管理委员会成员Peter Junge将首先介绍Apache
>>>  > > OpenOffice及其历史和发展方向。其他在北京的Apache
>>>  > OpenOffice志愿者，刘慎锋，安红云，刘涛，刘大力等，也会分享在Apache
>>>  > > OpenOffice开源社区做贡献的经验，以及如何基于Apache OpenOffice开发企业应用和云计算及社交解决方案。
>>>  > > 欢迎大家到Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012网站注册：
>>>  > > http://apacheasiaroadshow04.eventbrite.com！让我们共同关注Apache
>>>  > > OpenOffice，共同推动开源社区的发展！
>>>  > >
>>>  > > 
>>>  > >
>>>  > >
>>>  > > - Shenfeng (Simon)
>>>  > >
>>>  > >
>>>  > > 2012/12/5 Peter Junge 
>>>  > >
>>>  > >> I would also mention the names of the other speakers. Apart
>> from that
>>>  > it's
>>>  > >> OK.
>>>  > >>
>>>  > >> Peter
>>>  > >>
>>>  > >>
>>>  > >> On 12/4/2012 11:15 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>  > >>
>>>  > >>> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Shenfeng Liu
>> 
>>>  > wrote:
>>>  > >>>
>>>  >  Don,
>>>  >  Thanks for your suggestion!
>>>  >  Here is my draft of the blog, in English &
>> Chinese. Please
>>>  review
>>>  > and
>>>  >  give your comments!
>>>  >  I found myself not able to edit the blog
>> directly, so I wonder
>>>  if
>>>  > you
>>>  >  or
>>>  >  any one else can help to post? Thanks very much!
>>>  > 
>>>  > 
>>>  > >>> Here is the post, in draft form on the blog:
>>>  > >>> https://blogs.apache.org/**preview/OOo/?previewEntry=**
>>>  > >>> apache_asia_road_show_beijing<
>>>  >
>>>
>> https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=apache_asia_road_show_beijing
>>>  > >
>>>  > >>>
>>>  > >>> Let me know if it is OK and I will publish it.
>>>  > >>>
>>>  > >>> -Rob
>>>  > >>>
>>>  > >>>
>>>  > >>>
>>>  > >>>
>> --**--
>>>  >  Apache OpenOffice in Apache Asi

Re: Default Toolbar for Certain Languages

[Fan Zheng]

As we are considering about the side bar stuff currently, would you mind
giving us more specifications on your suggestions?


2012/11/26 Rob Weir 

> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:40 PM, imacat 
> wrote:
> > I would like to ask if it is possible for a default toolbar for
> > certain languages, but not all.  Out local community was asking a
> > Chinese punctuation toolbar for a long time, which they were used to it
> > since MS Office 97.  Unlike English punctuation, it is very trouble to
> > input Chinese full-width punctuation.  This toolbar helped them a lot.
> > I submit a request, and am amazed how fast words got spread and people
> > are enthusiastic about getting this done.
> >
> > http://goo.gl/mod/GTi6
> >
> > I know it is easy to do it in with a extension of BASIC macros.   Is
> > it possible to include it in the OpenOffice installation?  Or maybe
> > hard-code it?
> >
>
> Hi -- is this new Extension related?
> http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/ROCtwTCP
>
> -Rob
>
>
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > imacat ^_*' 
> > PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc
> >
> > <> News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/
> > Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/
> > Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/
> > Apache OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/
> > EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/
> > Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/
> >
>

Re: Chinese list (was Re: [Blog Draft] Update about Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 @Dec 13)

[Pedro Giffuni]

Hi Rob;

> Da: Rob Weir 
> 
>
>
>On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 8:57 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
>> Hello;
>>
>> FWIW, one idea that I left floating during ApacheConEU was the creation of
>> a chinese list. Imacat was working on it, no idea if it the idea is still 
>> alive or
>> waiting for volunteers to help moderate, etc.
>>
>
>Interesting idea, but two of our committers in China are German
>(Peter) and Canadian (Kevin).  So discussing local Chinese marketing
>in English would possibly be better for them ;-)
>

The idea is not only for Chinese marketing: I expect we will have a vibrant
Chinese user/developer community and there is likely to be a language barrier
so the list is also for community building and to treat specific chinese
(language) support issues.

The creation and administration of such list depends on Chinese users so I
thought I would suggest it but I won't be pushing the topic further.

cheers,

Pedro.

Re: [Blog Draft] Update about Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 @Dec 13

[Peter Junge]

Hi Simon,

thanks for the summary. It was indeed good to be there. Hope we'll get
more occasions to speak in the future.

Thanks to everyone!
Peter

On 12/17/2012 3:44 PM, Shenfeng Liu wrote:
> Hi, all,
>I just want to give you an update that we had a successful Apache
> OpenOffice session last Thursday (Dec 13) on Apache Asia Road Show 2012
> Beijing.
>Thanks to Peter, Tao and Da Li for the speech! The topics covered AOO
> general introduction, contributions from local volunteers, how to join
> community and make contribution, and building social/cloud solutions by
> integrating with AOO. We also distributed AOO promotion materials that
> prepared by Da Li.
>We got more than 100 audience participated in the OpenOffice session
> 14:00-15:00. Most of them are technical people from different companies and
> universities. Per my check during my speech, only <20 had used OpenOffice
> before. So it is really a good promotion of our product and community.
> 
>We are refining the presentations and will publish them later.
> 
>Thanks!
> 
> 
> - Shenfeng (Simon)
> 
> 
> 
> 2012/12/5 Peter Junge 
> 
>> OK.
>>
>> On 12/5/2012 4:55 PM, Shenfeng Liu wrote:
>>> Peter,
>>> Thanks for your comments! I added the speaker names per the presenting
>>> sequence.
>>>
>>> 
>>> Apache OpenOffice in Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 at December 13
>>>
>>> Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 will be held at December 13, and
>> Apache
>>> OpenOffice will deliver a session in the conference.
>>> In the Apache OpenOffice session, Peter Junge, Apache OpenOffice PMC
>>> member, will give a speech to introduce Apache OpenOffice, its history
>> and
>>> way in Apache. And other contributors in Beijing, Shenfeng Liu, Hongyun
>> An,
>>> Tao Liu and Dali Liu, will also give their speech to share the best
>>> practice of contributing to the open source community, as well as
>> building
>>> enterprise business and Cloud/Social solution on top of Apache
>> OpenOffice.
>>> Please visit the Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 website and register:
>>> http://apacheasiaroadshow04.eventbrite.com . We are looking forward to
>>> seeing you there!
>>>
>>> 
>>> Apache OpenOffice将在12月13日Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012大会上介绍其发展及解决方案
>>>
>>> Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012将于12月13日在北京中关村软件园举行。届时Apache
>>> OpenOffice将在大会上介绍其发展及相关解决方案。
>>> 在论坛上，Apache OpenOffice项目管理委员会成员Peter Junge将首先介绍Apache
>>> OpenOffice及其历史和发展方向。其他在北京的Apache
>> OpenOffice志愿者，刘慎锋，安红云，刘涛，刘大力等，也会分享在Apache
>>> OpenOffice开源社区做贡献的经验，以及如何基于Apache OpenOffice开发企业应用和云计算及社交解决方案。
>>> 欢迎大家到Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012网站注册：
>>> http://apacheasiaroadshow04.eventbrite.com！让我们共同关注Apache
>>> OpenOffice，共同推动开源社区的发展！
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> - Shenfeng (Simon)
>>>
>>>
>>> 2012/12/5 Peter Junge 
>>>
 I would also mention the names of the other speakers. Apart from that
>> it's
 OK.

 Peter


 On 12/4/2012 11:15 PM, Rob Weir wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Shenfeng Liu 
>> wrote:
>
>> Don,
>>  Thanks for your suggestion!
>>  Here is my draft of the blog, in English & Chinese. Please review
>> and
>> give your comments!
>>  I found myself not able to edit the blog directly, so I wonder if
>> you
>> or
>> any one else can help to post? Thanks very much!
>>
>>
> Here is the post, in draft form on the blog:
> https://blogs.apache.org/**preview/OOo/?previewEntry=**
> apache_asia_road_show_beijing<
>> https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=apache_asia_road_show_beijing
>>>
>
> Let me know if it is OK and I will publish it.
>
> -Rob
>
>
>
>--**--
>> Apache OpenOffice in Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 at December 13
>>
>> Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 will be held at December 13, and
>> Apache
>> OpenOffice will deliver a session in the conference.
>> In the Apache OpenOffice session, Peter Junge, Apache OpenOffice PMC
>> member, will give a speech to introduce Apache OpenOffice, its history
>> and
>> way in Apache. And other contributors in Beijing will also give their
>> speech to share the best practice of contributing to the open source
>> community, as well as building enterprise business and Cloud/Social
>> solution on top of Apache OpenOffice.
>> Please visit the Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 website and
>> register:
>> http://apacheasiaroadshow04.**eventbrite.com<
>> http://apacheasiaroadshow04.eventbrite.com>. We are looking forward to
>> seeing you there!
>>
>> --**--
>> Apache OpenOffice将在12月13日Apache Asia Road Show Beijing
>> 2012大会上介绍其发展及解决方案
>>

Re: AOO trunk build fails with HSQLDB

[Pedro Giffuni]

- Messaggio originale -
> Da: Ariel Constenla-Haile 

> On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 09:10:09AM -0800, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>  On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
>>  > Hello Kay;
>>  >
>>  > Yes, I can confirm after solving those two issues,we got OpenOffice 
> building with JDK 7 on FreeBSD:
>>  >
>>  > 
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/editors/openoffice-3-devel/files/
>>  >
>>  > Pedro.
>> 
>>  Hey -- thanks for this notice. Well, IMO, we should fix these
>>  supposedly *trivial* issues and get on with java 7. Java 6 is out of
>>  support for *some* time now. We can't expect users to keep an older
>>  version like 6 around.
> 
> AFAIK the Java base is 1.5 (both source and target). Moving this to 1.7
> is a bad idea.
> 

My understanding is that Java 1.5 is EOL. I agree that moving to 1.7
is a bad idea, so I would say 1.6 is what should be expected.

Of course we will have to clean the build for 1.7 anyways and the sooner
the better.

Pedro.

[UX] Design Exploration - Task Pane Content Panel User Interface Design

[Xin Li]

Hi all,

I have been exploring on Task Pane framework and content panel design.  I
have post the 9 proposals on AOO UX wiki.

See:
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOO_UX_Design_Exploration_-_Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_User_Interface_Design_Proposals#Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_UX_Design_propoals

Capture any thoughts or feedback in the discussion section of the wiki
page. Thanks.


-- 
Best regards,
Xin Li   李欣
UX designer

Re: wiki.open office Volunteer Application

[陶然]

Hi,
   Thank you for the account!But I can not edit mwiki after I logged in.I
wonder that if I can get more permit to edit wiki?I am very interest in the
Symphony Sidebar.

Best regards,
Doreen

2012/12/13 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak 

> On 12/12/2012 12:37 AM, 陶然 wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> I'm a collage student ,and my major is industry design.I'm very interested
>> in wiki open office,so I send you this letter to wonder that may I be a
>> member of volunteers?
>> I will be very Appreciate if you agree my joining !
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Doreen
>>
>>  Also, if you intend to edit content on the WIKI, respond to this email
> (be sure to include the mailing list) and indicate the username to use for
> your account.
>
> Note that you only require an account if you will edit WIKI content.
>
> --
> Andrew Pitonyak
> My Macro Document: 
> http://www.pitonyak.org/**AndrewMacro.odt
> Info:  http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php
>
>

Re: [WEBSITE] Problem with .htm files

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 18/12/2012 Dave Fisher wrote:

All done. .htm files remain .htm files on the server.


Thanks! I confirm that
http://www.openoffice.org/pt/about/about.htm
and the related pages, where I found the problem, now work correctly.


Later we will need to purge the duplicates.


Better, but not high priority since anyway we don't have links to those 
pages anywhere (or, at least, we shouldn't).


Regards,
  Andrea.