routing problem
hi now i believe myself to be a fairly experienced deb user. this is humiliating: i have a home network (10.42.42.0) which has a floppyfw gateway to the world at 10.42.42.254. works. i have been building a cluster (actually, resuscitating one, but that's another story). the cluster network is 10.42.43.0. its gateway is called buster and has 2 nics, 10.42.42.112 (eth0) and 10.42.43.254 (eth1). the cluster nodes (only 3 running now) are c0n1 c0n2 and c0n3. they are served their roots by buster (etherboot). works. that was hard. this is easy? too bad i can't ping in or out. from inside out: c0n1:/home/dmallery>> route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 10.42.43.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 0.0.0.0 10.42.43.2540.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 eth0 cluster member c0n1 can ping buster, but no further. next here's buster: buster:/etc/init.d>> route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 10.42.43.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth1 10.42.42.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 0.0.0.0 10.42.42.2540.0.0.0 UG0 00 eth0 buster can ping into the cluster and outwards into 10.42.42.0 land. buster is happy. buster can even ping debian.org! next (and last) here's bilbo, a sarge machine on the home front: bilbo:/>> route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Iface 10.42.43.0 10.42.42.112255.255.255.0 UG0 0 0 eth0 10.42.42.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 0.0.0.0 10.42.42.2540.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 eth0 bilbo can ping the world and buster but not into the cluster. (i realize that i will have to add a route to the firewall to the cluster but that can wait till c0n1 can ping bilbo!) is this a routing problem, or am i looking endlessly in the wrong place? i am at a dead stop. i would so appreciate some pointers. thanks in advance. dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (debian testing & woody) PO Box 520 .~._ Ramah, NM 87321 /V\ -o) no gates... /( )\ /\\ running Debian GNU/Linux no windows! ^ _\_vfree at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
routing problem
On Sat, Oct 05, 2002 at 04:30:58PM +, Doug MacFarlane wrote: > On 04 Oct 2002, 19:35:14, Kourosh wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 08:24:51PM -0600, dave mallery wrote: > > Have you enabled IP forwarding on buster? Do you have firewalling enabled > > on buster? > > The answer is that you need to configure Buster to function as a router. > Just configuring Buster to be a part of both networks does NOT mean that > Buster will automagically send packets originating on one network to the > other network. > > There are several ways to accomplish this. You can enable IP Forwarding, > as suggested, or you can run routed, an IP routing daemon. > > Since you only need to forward/route the one segment, IP Forwarding will > be much more straight-forward, although every host on your 10.42.42 subnet > will need a static route to buster for the 10.42.43 subnet, otherwise, they > will send everything to the firewall, and the firewall will put it back on > the 10.42.42 subnet addressed to buster (provided you have that rule configured > on the firewall). > > madmac thanks very much guys! the truth is that buster needs to route. i have routing configured in the kernel, but have not really looked at the problem directly. due to other complications (not enuf disk space) i will have to re-work buster, probably tomorrow, with a much larger disk. (the cluster has 16 nodes and that's a lot of nfs roots!) the story behind the cluster: we have some great surplus auctions here in NM. last month, i became the owner of two "alta cluster" boxen from los alamos. (2 0f 8.. the others scrapped) each has 8 dual pii 333s on a nice asus mobo with antek power. all assembled into these beautiful nearly cubic yard boxen. so rather than scrap them to ebay, i decided to see if i could make em run again. (all the hi-power interconnect had been removed) now i don't need to do nuclear calculations at home, but i have done a lot of seti (>1) and at this level, i need a boost in production! so the individual nodes need to get out to send results and get work units. thanks again, what a great list! dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (debian testing & woody) PO Box 520 .~._ Ramah, NM 87321 /V\ -o) no gates... /( )\ /\\ running Debian GNU/Linux no windows! ^ _\_vfree at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which half are you in?
On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 09:27:20AM +1000, Joyce, Matthew wrote: > You need to delete a netware partition which contains a segment of the root > volume, on a 1000+ user server, on a Friday afternoon, before a magazine > goes to print, to fully understand the word, humility. > back when i was publishing magazines, we had a vax... in fact an 8800 cluster. it was robust because no one got near a priviledged account. my other low point was in the late '60s when i ended a job on a spectra-70 just after they had read in the 13th reel of input (tape)... dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (debian testing & woody) PO Box 520 .~._ Ramah, NM 87321 /V\ -o) no gates... /( )\ /\\ running Debian GNU/Linux no windows! ^ _\_vfree at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: deleting directory
On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 01:23:27AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Brooks R. Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.11.01.2303 +0100]: > > It seems to me that I've seem this recently (I don't know who to credit), > > but is it not written that there are two types of *nix users? > > > > Type 1: Those who have executed rm -rf / > > Type 2: Those who haven't yet > i guess i am the guilty party. being sadder and wiser, it is interesting to note subtile differences in my newly reconstituted system made via dpkg --get-selections with full restores of /root /home and /etc: gnome terminal is gone and not available via apt-get > apt-get install gnome-terminal Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Package gnome-terminal has no available version, but exists in the database. This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents of sources.list However the following packages replace it: gnome-help-data E: Package gnome-terminal has no installation candidate gnome-help... hardly and my colors are different on mutt (same config file) and right clicking urls in mail no longer works! dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (debian testing & woody) PO Box 520 .~._ Ramah, NM 87321 /V\ -o) no gates... /( )\ /\\ running Debian GNU/Linux no windows! ^ _\_vfree at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2 3com905b network cards - not recognized
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 04:46:48PM -, Mikael Jirari wrote: does your /etc/network/interfaces look like this? # /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8) # The loopback interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The first network card - this entry was created during the Debian installation # (network, broadcast and gateway are optional) auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 10.42.42.112 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 10.42.42.0 broadcast 10.42.42.255 gateway 10.42.42.254 # second network card - to the private cluster net: 10.42.43.0 # rdm 9/26/02 auto eth1 iface eth1 inet static address 10.42.43.254 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 10.42.43.0 broadcast 10.42.43.255 dave > Hi, > > I have two 3com 905b in my box, but only one is recognized. > I compiled the drivers into the kernel since i'm not using modules at all. > > What can I do so the two network cards to be recognized ? > > I read somewhere that disabling the Pnp option could resolve the problem but > is there a way to fix the problem without doing that ? > > I think the system is assigning the same irq to the network cards (really > not sure about what i'm saying) > > Also, how can i do the irq setup manually ? > > Thanx -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (debian testing & woody) PO Box 520 .~._ Ramah, NM 87321 /V\ -o) no gates... /( )\ /\\ running Debian GNU/Linux no windows! ^ _\_vfree at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
runaway wtmp and setuid on my cluster
hi both of the above files are filling up at amazing rates: dozens of megabytes per day. the wtmp seems to be filled with login attempts from tty 1-6. the setuid has entries from every device in /dev/ in order. -rw-r-1 root adm466257 Nov 12 06:30 setuid.today -rw-r-1 root adm 2059982 Oct 8 06:26 setuid.yesterday ... -rw-rw-r--1 root utmp 2143104 Nov 17 2002 wtmp -rw-rw-r--1 root utmp 14795136 Nov 17 06:26 wtmp.1 the other log files seem normal. these machines are in a diskless cluster, with root mounted nfs. i discovered this when they filled up the disk of the nfs server node. there are about 13 nodes, each a dual pii 333 and one with quad xeons. they all run the same copy of linux with their own root nodes. there is so much specific information i could give, that i have no idea where to start. i'd be so thankful for a clue... thanks dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (debian testing & woody) PO Box 520 .~._ Ramah, NM 87321 /V\ -o) no gates... /( )\ /\\ running Debian GNU/Linux no windows! ^ _\_vfree at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wtmp and setuid gone mad..
hi i tried to post this this morning, but it never made it. i have a diskless cluster.. uses kernel nfs and etherboot. there is only one copy of the kernel but a separate root directory for each node... all served up by one machine (only one with a disk). from /var/log: -rw-r-1 root adm466257 Nov 12 06:30 setuid.today -rw-r-1 root adm 2059982 Oct 8 06:26 setuid.yesterday snip< -rw-rw-r--1 root utmp 8640384 Nov 17 2002 wtmp -rw-rw-r--1 root utmp 14795136 Nov 17 06:26 wtmp.1 setuid.* is full of messages from *every* device in /dev... wtmp had login messages by the thousands from each of the tty devices: the kind you get with ctrl/alt/f2...not the serial ports. i only discovered this when the log messages ran the server node out of disk space. a few of the nodes are not doing this: the nfs serving host and a new node i added last week. all the nodes were re-started last week with a fresh copy of their root directory. i'd be very grateful for a clue to follow. i am not really familiar with all the logging procedure. man wtmp reveals that the records are created and updated by the login process. man setuid is talking about the system function and does not mention logging and how it is done. thanks in advance dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (debian testing & woody) PO Box 520 .~._ Ramah, NM 87321 /V\ -o) no gates... /( )\ /\\ running Debian GNU/Linux no windows! ^ _\_vfree at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/var/log/setuid.today wierdness in cluster
hi my normal /var/log/setuid.today is full of entries that refer to programs supposedly doing an suid: 32045 2755 1 root tty 9112 Sun Jan 27 00:05:55 2002 /usr/bin/wall 32055 2755 1 root shadow 32104 Sun Apr 7 09:59:04 2002 /usr/bin/chage 32056 4755 1 root root 25864 Sun Apr 7 09:59:04 2002 /usr/bin/chfn 32057 4755 1 root root 23944 Sun Apr 7 09:59:04 2002 /usr/bin/chsh 32058 2755 1 root shadow 16040 Sun Apr 7 09:59:04 2002 /usr/bin/expiry 32059 4755 1 root root 33064 Sun Apr 7 09:59:04 many of my cluster nodes have this instead: 184 660 1 root disk 0 Mon Oct 7 10:55:19 2002 /dev/loop6 185 660 1 root disk 0 Mon Oct 7 10:55:20 2002 /dev/loop7 186 600 1 root tty0 Mon Oct 7 10:55:20 2002 /dev/tty0 187 600 1 root tty0 Mon Oct 7 10:55:20 2002 /dev/console 189 660 1 root video 0 Mon Oct 7 10:55:20 2002 /dev/agpgart 194 660 1 root dip0 Mon Oct 7 10:56:29 2002 /dev/ppp 200 660 1 root disk 0 Thu Mar 14 14:51:02 2002 /dev/hda1 201 660 1 root floppy 0 Thu Mar 14 14:56:54 2002 /dev/fd0 202 660 1 root floppy 0 Thu Mar 14 14:56:54 2002 /dev/fd0h1200 203 660 1 root floppy 0 Thu Mar 14 14:56:54 2002 /dev/fd0d360 tens of thousands of entries running thru the /dev directory. these nodes develop 20+mb files per day. i can't find documentation on what program writes these files. man setuid only documents the library call. if someone could please point me in the right direction thanks in advance dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (debian testing & woody) PO Box 520 .~._ Ramah, NM 87321 /V\ -o) no gates... /( )\ /\\ running Debian GNU/Linux no windows! ^ _\_vfree at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /var/log/setuid.today wierdness in cluster
thanks much for the answer. i was able to eliminate the setuid logging via the conf file. the problem with wtmp is that it shows (without a decoder ring) that there are thousands of logins per day on tty1 thru 6. that's odd on a cluster node on a private network behind a server behind a firewall. also no node has a keyboard! i can eliminate the file, but what is causing these login records??? this is happening on most of my 16 nodes. i figure there is a lot of wasted activity. at most, i may log in every few days via ssh. so is there a decoder program that can dump the contents of wtmp, or do i have to write one?? (muttered dave) i think some effort on the cause here will be worth it. the cluster nodes are diskless/swapless .5Gb twin pII 333s using etherboot, dhcp, tftp and kernel nfs. it was once called an "altacluster" and it was brand new in 1998! it had 64 nodes and worked at los alamos. i got part of it at an auction. now it thinks about little green men. it has been a wonderful learning experience. the last step will be to burn the etherboot code onto a prom so i can ditch the floppies! thanks again, joey dave On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 12:12:26PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > dave mallery wrote: > > tens of thousands of entries running thru the /dev directory. these > > nodes develop 20+mb files per day. > > > > i can't find documentation on what program writes these files. man > > setuid only documents the library call. > > It's generated by the checksecurity program. You might want to read its > man page and edit /etc/checksecurity.conf. > > The filename is a bit of a misnomer, as it is intended to report on > changes of device file permissions, as such changes can be security > risks. > > -- > see shy jo -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (debian testing & woody) PO Box 520 .~._ Ramah, NM 87321 /V\ -o) no gates... /( )\ /\\ running Debian GNU/Linux no windows! ^ _\_vfree at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /var/log/setuid.today wierdness in cluster
> > You can do something like last -f /var/log/wtmp.1 wow! a decoder ring! scanning a 14,8mb wtmp file, it produces very little output : -rw-rw-r--1 root utmp 14849280 Nov 22 06:20 wtmp.1 c0n5:/var/log>> last -f /var/log/wtmp.1 wtmp.1 begins Thu Nov 21 06:25:03 2002 this file grows from midnite to midnite from 0 to almost 220mb. so there is something afoot! > > Maybe the nodes are sshing into the server for some reason? Although > only interactive ssh's should show in the wtmp file, I'd imagine it'll > be something like that. Maybe rshing in or something. i looked around /var/log and found this: -rw-r-1 root adm 3524716 Nov 22 12:19 auth.log c0n5:/var/log>> tail auth.log Nov 22 12:17:11 c0n5 getty[8270]: /dev/tty5: cannot open as standard input: No such device Nov 22 12:17:11 c0n5 getty[8271]: /dev/tty6: cannot open as standard input: No such device Nov 22 12:17:20 c0n5 getty[8272]: /dev/tty1: cannot open as standard input: No such device Nov 22 12:17:21 c0n5 getty[8273]: /dev/tty2: cannot open as standard input: No such device Nov 22 12:17:21 c0n5 getty[8274]: /dev/tty3: cannot open as standard input: No such device Nov 22 12:17:21 c0n5 getty[8275]: /dev/tty4: cannot open as standard input: No such device Nov 22 12:17:21 c0n5 getty[8276]: /dev/tty5: cannot open as standard input: No such device Nov 22 12:17:21 c0n5 getty[8277]: /dev/tty6: cannot open as standard input: No such device Nov 22 12:20:29 c0n5 sshd[8278]: Accepted password for root from 10.42.42.104 port 51754 ssh2 Nov 22 12:20:29 c0n5 PAM_unix[8278]: (ssh) session opened for user root by (uid=0) this looks to be a symptom. all these ttyn devices are trying to do something... they are triggering getty up to many times per second. this probably accounts for the thousands of entries in wtmp that are transparant to the program last. thanks again dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (debian testing & woody) PO Box 520 .~._ Ramah, NM 87321 /V\ -o) no gates... /( )\ /\\ running Debian GNU/Linux no windows! ^ _\_vfree at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /var/log/setuid.today wierdness in cluster
another addendum, here's the real symptom in daemon.log: c0n5:/var/log>> tail daemon.log Nov 22 12:24:13 c0n5 init: Id "3" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes Nov 22 12:24:13 c0n5 init: Id "4" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes Nov 22 12:24:13 c0n5 init: Id "5" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes Nov 22 12:24:13 c0n5 init: Id "6" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes Nov 22 12:30:53 c0n5 init: Id "1" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes Nov 22 12:30:55 c0n5 init: Id "2" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes Nov 22 12:30:55 c0n5 init: Id "3" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes Nov 22 12:30:55 c0n5 init: Id "4" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes Nov 22 12:30:55 c0n5 init: Id "5" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes Nov 22 12:30:55 c0n5 init: Id "6" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes c0n5:/var/log>> i have only seen this with dial-in lines and mgetty. but this is the root of the problem. dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (debian testing & woody) PO Box 520 .~._ Ramah, NM 87321 /V\ -o) no gates... /( )\ /\\ running Debian GNU/Linux no windows! ^ _\_vfree at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /var/log/setuid.today wierdness in cluster *solved*
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 12:26:18PM -0700, dave mallery wrote: > another addendum, here's the real symptom in daemon.log: > > c0n5:/var/log>> tail daemon.log > Nov 22 12:24:13 c0n5 init: Id "3" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 > minutes > Nov 22 12:24:13 c0n5 init: Id "4" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 > minutes the solution for these bursts of getty is to simply comment out the inittab lines: #1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1 #2:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty2 #3:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty3 #4:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty4 #5:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty5 #6:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty6 and then telinit q these nodes don't have video cards or keyboards. there is one with video, and it does not get the problem. much cleaning of /var/log follows. thanks. dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (debian testing & woody) PO Box 520 .~._ Ramah, NM 87321 /V\ -o) no gates... /( )\ /\\ running Debian GNU/Linux no windows! ^ _\_vfree at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: testing - no new packages
there is a hangup with libc. On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 05:03:50PM +, Richard Kimber wrote: > I have not seen any new packages in testing for quite a long time. Is > this because I'm using a mirror that's not being updated, or aren't there > any? > > Thanks, > - Richard. > -- > Richard Kimber > http://www.psr.keele.ac.uk/ > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (debian testing & woody) PO Box 520 .~._ Ramah, NM 87321 /V\ -o) no gates... /( )\ /\\ running Debian GNU/Linux no windows! ^ _\_vfree at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: support for cluster maintenance?
On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 11:57:52AM -0800, Mark Ferlatte wrote: > begin Hannes Loeffler quote on Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 08:46:35PM +0100: > > a) user accounts (NIS probably) i just installed the c3 utilities from ornl. they were written up in the december issue of Linux Magazine in the "extreme linux" column. they are a series of python modules that provide you with ways to execute arbitrary commands on all (or a subset) the nodes of a cluster or clusters. you can combine these commands into scripts. good stuff dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (debian testing & woody) PO Box 520 .~._ Ramah, NM 87321 /V\ -o) no gates... /( )\ /\\ running Debian GNU/Linux no windows! ^ _\_vfree at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to view bootup info ? dmesg ??
less /var/log/dmesg -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (debian testing & woody) PO Box 520 .~._ Ramah, NM 87321 /V\ -o) no gates... /( )\ /\\ running Debian GNU/Linux no windows! ^ _\_vfree at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
perl problem: looking for Gtk::CList
hi i have gathered in as many "libgtk-perl" modules as i can find. i need a CList for some work i am doing... can't find it. even on cpan. i would really appreciate some pointers. thanks dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (debian testing & woody) PO Box 520 .~._ Ramah, NM 87321 /V\ -o) no gates... /( )\ /\\ running Debian GNU/Linux no windows! ^ _\_vfree at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: perl problem: looking for Gtk::CList
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 07:02:17PM -0700, dave mallery wrote: > hi > > i have gathered in as many "libgtk-perl" modules as i can find. > > i need a CList for some work i am doing... can't find it. even on cpan. > > i would really appreciate some pointers. solved: it was there all the time, part of Gtk. i just can't spell. my apologies, and note that aptitude is really nice for finding perl modules. -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (debian testing & woody) PO Box 520 .~._ Ramah, NM 87321 /V\ -o) no gates... /( )\ /\\ running Debian GNU/Linux no windows! ^ _\_vfree at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XF86 4.2.1 upgrade problem
hi i finally rebooted to add some memory and am now in the grips of the x4.2 problems. (was able to restart X ok yesterday before reboot so i thought it would restart ok after boot..) the log file from /etc/X11 shows it trying to load "sub-module" fb. that has always been the kiss of death here. however, it seems to be part of the mga loading process, not something i can remove. (i don't have mag_hal). with the mga driver, the startx results in a totally frozen machine. reboot necessary. if i change the driver to "vesa", then the machine does not freeze but results in a "no screens" condition. is there a quick fix that would result in a running X with vesa? i do have /dev/fb0. it would be really nice if it could be made to work... this is also a problem for new installs. my XF86Config-4 is fresh out of the -reconfigure option and it does not work. this configuration file worked yesterday when re-starting X and failed this morning after a re-boot. btw, running 2.4.19-686 package, not custom. i read most of the postings re 4.2 problems, but i don't remember any complaining about mga/fb. in 4.1 i remember it was possible to eliminate the framebuffer, but that option does not seem to be there anymore. i'd be very grateful for a pointer or two. thanks dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (debian testing & woody) PO Box 520 .~._ Ramah, NM 87321 /V\ -o) no gates... /( )\ /\\ running Debian GNU/Linux no windows! ^ _\_vfree at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Remember when hard disk sizes were in MiB?
> > In one of my more perverse claims to pride, I actually issue a purchase order > to IBM for a 5 MB 5.25" Full Height hard-drive for $4100 in 1984, to be installed > in an IBM PC. > > And it was a godsend . . . > > When PC DASD (Hard-Drives) hit $1/MB, I was in shock. Now it's $1/GB. > When PC RAM hit $1/MB I was really in shock. Now you can get 1 GB or RAM > for a little over $100 . . . > > I hate being old. me too. i remember installing my first 11/70 in december 1975. it had an rp-04 88mb drive that cost only $35,000. it had core memory. about 96k. we went for an upgrade to 128kb. then along came cmos memory and i got a half megabyte for about $31,000. such a deal! you could still make money timesharing in those days: i'd resell that disk space to users for $35/mb/month. it soon graduated into in rp-06 and then (getting bolder) into 4 cdc 9766en and then came the fuji eagle! i was the first customer to keep (cuz we debugged) the System Industries mass bus interface... oh well dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (debian testing & woody) PO Box 520 .~._ Ramah, NM 87321 /V\ -o) no gates... /( )\ /\\ running Debian GNU/Linux no windows! ^ _\_vfree at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XF86 4.2.1 upgrade problem *solved*
remember the old adage: if it breaks when you change something, it's whatever you changed!! i swapped the memory upgrade out and problem is gone. happily running X4.2.1 when will he ever learn??? dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (debian testing & woody) PO Box 520 .~._ Ramah, NM 87321 /V\ -o) no gates... /( )\ /\\ running Debian GNU/Linux no windows! ^ _\_vfree at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: compaq 1600r's with Debian 2.4.18-686-smp
On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 11:52:39AM +1300, Thing wrote: > Hi, > > I have 2 of these running dual p2-450 cpus, the problem is on neither machine > cat /proc/cpuinfo shows the second cpu, ive swapped the cpu's about and > booted with 1 cpu at at time and the server still boots so this suggests the > hardware / cpus are fine. > > anybody know a fix? > > Im using standard smp debian kernels, eg > > apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-686-smp > three things to look at: does the bios announce that it sees 2? the beginning of dmesg from boot up: reams of stuff about each one the output of top or ps: 3 root 19 19 00 0 SWN 0.0 0.0 0:00 ksoftirqd_CPU0 4 root 19 19 00 0 SWN 0.0 0.0 0:00 ksoftirqd_CPU1 5 root 18 19 00 0 SWN 0.0 0.0 0:00 ksoftirqd_CPU2 6 root 18 19 00 0 SWN 0.0 0.0 0:00 ksoftirqd_CPU3 good luck dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (debian testing & woody) PO Box 520 .~._ Ramah, NM 87321 /V\ -o) no gates... /( )\ /\\ running Debian GNU/Linux no windows! ^ _\_vfree at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting without a monitor: No Go
hi look on the first page of the cmos setup for an option that says: stop on it probably says "any error" for sure if it says that, it will stop with no keyboard attached and never boot. fa la dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (debian testing & woody) PO Box 520 .~._ Ramah, NM 87321 /V\ -o) no gates... /( )\ /\\ running Debian GNU/Linux no windows! ^ _\_vfree at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Internet troubles
On Wed, Jan 08, 2003 at 06:20:30PM +0100, Willem-Jan Meijer wrote: > Hello, > > After an install of two 100 mbit network card from sweex on my server I've > got a weird problem. When I ping outside, it's okay. When I ping inside, > it's okay. When I want to use internet on a normal day-to-day there's no > connection. The firewall is configured properly, dhcpd works fine but I > can't get a outside-connection. Ifconfig -a output is correct. I formatted > twice and installed again but it didn't help. What's going wrong? check and try: echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ipforward dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (debian testing & woody) PO Box 520 .~._ Ramah, NM 87321 /V\ -o) no gates... /( )\ /\\ running Debian GNU/Linux no windows! ^ _\_vfree at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
print problem on sarge
hi a few weeks ago, my previously perfect print set-up went south: bilbo:/home/dmallery>> lpc status lp: queuing is enabled printing is enabled no entries no daemon present bilbo:/home/dmallery>> lpc start lp lp: printing enabled lpc: connect: No such file or directory couldn't start daemon could someone point me at what is going on with lpc: lpc: connect: No such file or directory the diagnostic message is a bit terse for me... from /etc/printcap: # remote xerox np17 # using appsocket 9100 for bi-directional status # rdm 3/17/2 # lp|lp0:\ :[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\ :rp=raw:\ :ml=0:\ :mx=0:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\ :sh: i have several other printers and get the same message from all. thanks in advance for any help. dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (debian testing & woody) PO Box 520 .~._ Ramah, NM 87321 /V\ -o) no gates... /( )\ /\\ running Debian GNU/Linux no windows! ^ _\_vfree at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
honorable mention
hi there was a very favorable comment about using linux in compute farms in EEtimes for Feb 23rd page 56. not only the obvious license price gap but also the advantage of linux being "just a good implementation of unix" and therefore being easier to control. Quickturn Design is using a linux farm to run 32 simultaneous simulations... dave -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- Dave Mallery, K5EN po box 520; ramah nm 87321 505-783-4784 running Debian GNU/Linux."Free at last" winNT: from the people who brought us EDLIN. public key on keyservers..keyid: E06D8D8D Key fingerprint = 06 84 11 FD EB 5D 12 F2 9C E6 0C 0A 3F 11 7F 2F -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
quicken??
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- hi now that i have netscape 4.04 running, the last hurdle seems to be Quicken. all i need is something to keep a check register and print checks. (i know, write it yourself!)... could someone point me in the right direction? then i can convert my other machine to linux too! thanx - -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- Dave Mallery, K5EN po box 520; ramah nm 87321 505-783-4784 running Debian GNU/Linux."Free at last" winNT: from the people who brought us EDLIN. public key on keyservers..keyid: E06D8D8D Key fingerprint = 06 84 11 FD EB 5D 12 F2 9C E6 0C 0A 3F 11 7F 2F -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNPnqwQJbhNLgbY2NAQF2XAP/Tz4lmdW1odtReUyZ3h2RciFF74nWQHi/ hJZvNByKzqUQ0t5/8RtqW0SIEzFoFZOgStHgIEgu2/ZnmlvZVIkbrkOkwPW1cQaD Mem+iiJ9haHMGlPSXHjtUwamaN6gGadWMy9yX7BXlwYVW+tYkECoQs3h4tbFI0et TXLxdsi7/pg= =NXV/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
netscape 4.04 fonts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- hi (i know this was discussed about a month ago, but that was before my zillions of pine folders were set up for filing sorry...) some of the fonts displayed are so small that they are illegible. i have up'ed the sizes in edit/preferences/appearance/fonts (which helps with some displays) but not with others... like gw2k for instance. also some of the fonts are poorly rendered, leading me to think that there are some other fonts out there i could use.. ps: running 4.04 from hamm in bo. dave - -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- Dave Mallery, K5EN po box 520; ramah nm 87321 505-783-4784 running Debian GNU/Linux."Free at last" winNT: from the people who brought us EDLIN. public key on keyservers..keyid: E06D8D8D Key fingerprint = 06 84 11 FD EB 5D 12 F2 9C E6 0C 0A 3F 11 7F 2F -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNPtPfgJbhNLgbY2NAQFsLQP/XZLxkBx8UM8BCeVZEEgXPeD0zVpv8N4g oK0x3NUMtJGhU0xZakM/6kH21VYuYupmExIjdyWDRGy3ulEuKvujNRA9HisMDFey yN1v8k5KRqlcUDqR+pquRfkraB0nfTvIn8d8E40R1dAB6fd7oZO2rSYJ68DNKZwb bTtEmal79zY= =ekg7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
procmail locking and demonizing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- how to get fetch/procmail working as a daemon... here's fetchmail: # .fetchmailrc 1/16/98 poll mailer.cia-g.com protocol pop3 user dmallery pass ?? mda "/usr/bin/procmail -f-" fetchall ane here's procmail: PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin MAILDIR=$HOME/mail LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/from DEFAULT=Amisc :0 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] deb-user :0 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] deb-changes :0 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] seti [snip] there are at least two considerations: 1) locking and 2) $HOME does it suffice to simply use the :0: construct on each of the filters in procmailrc?? what about Amisc, my default? i can't find any evidence that pine is setting any locks (at least not the .lock variety). if i make an .lock file in /mail, then pine does hold off opening that folder... if the fetchmail/procmail runs as a daemon, started by ppp.up then will i not have to make the $HOME reference explicit to my account (and the location of my /mail directory?) since ppp.up (i think) is started as root... i've really tried to track this one down... i hate to lose mail and that's what happened last time i tackled this. thanks mucho dave - -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- Dave Mallery, K5EN po box 520; ramah nm 87321 505-783-4784 running Debian GNU/Linux."Free at last" winNT: from the people who brought us EDLIN. public key on keyservers..keyid: E06D8D8D Key fingerprint = 06 84 11 FD EB 5D 12 F2 9C E6 0C 0A 3F 11 7F 2F -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNQMviwJbhNLgbY2NAQGCzwQAhIyobGxhmITeO+rKCElktrqlC/SKEq30 LQykH68zosS6etzyUAZFm24evIiw29oTr5D0jPF0poFPAJZl4DPGXxo6CF9yzzx7 o6U95do8JZ7Z/X7sHm7gTavtjLA/GqL+fJFGTI4yEcO9oolIVI8YgXcBW3kyO7fQ uHnXVBKl2gk= =/Bey -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- E-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
demonizing fetchmail (continued)
i got the /etc/ppp/ip-up procedure to send me mail...which was from root Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:09:58 -0700 (MST) From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] so, how do you tell fetchmail and procmail (running as a root daemon) where to find the dotfiles in my home account?? (or do i move the dotfiles to /root and change the $HOME references??) learning slowly in new mexico dave -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- Dave Mallery, K5EN po box 520; ramah nm 87321 505-783-4784 running Debian GNU/Linux."Free at last" winNT: from the people who brought us EDLIN. public key on keyservers..keyid: E06D8D8D Key fingerprint = 06 84 11 FD EB 5D 12 F2 9C E6 0C 0A 3F 11 7F 2F -- E-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Unmount: COMMAND NOT FOUND!!!
hi try 'umount' not 'uNmount' try 'which umount' regards d -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- Dave Mallery, K5EN po box 520; ramah nm 87321 505-783-4784 running Debian GNU/Linux."Free at last" winNT: from the people who brought us EDLIN. public key on keyservers..keyid: E06D8D8D Key fingerprint = 06 84 11 FD EB 5D 12 F2 9C E6 0C 0A 3F 11 7F 2F On Sat, 21 Mar 1998, Tristan Day wrote: > When I ask Debian 1.3.1 to unmount my 3.5" to take it out of the drive, I > get 'Command Not Fount' or something along these lines: it seems "unmount" > doesn't exist! How do I get round this so I don't have to reboot every time > I change disks? > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
netscape 4.04
hi is there a way to clear the cache of pages and images? i've searched the menus... i have a cached page that seems to only reload from cache, and not from the server. other pages load from the server just fine. thanx d -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- Dave Mallery, K5EN po box 520; ramah nm 87321 505-783-4784 running Debian GNU/Linux."Free at last" winNT: from the people who brought us EDLIN. public key on keyservers..keyid: E06D8D8D Key fingerprint = 06 84 11 FD EB 5D 12 F2 9C E6 0C 0A 3F 11 7F 2F -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
netscape 4.04
boy is my face red... the cache option in the preferences menu requires you to click the little rh-pointing arrow pointing at 'advanced' which uncovers the cache and other options... duhh thanks, guys d -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- Dave Mallery, K5EN po box 520; ramah nm 87321 505-783-4784 running Debian GNU/Linux."Free at last" winNT: from the people who brought us EDLIN. public key on keyservers..keyid: E06D8D8D Key fingerprint = 06 84 11 FD EB 5D 12 F2 9C E6 0C 0A 3F 11 7F 2F -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pdf files..
hi a friend has been shipping me pdf files. is there a viewer available (bo...) thanx dave -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- Dave Mallery, K5EN po box 520; ramah nm 87321 505-783-4784 running Debian GNU/Linux."Free at last" winNT: from the people who brought us EDLIN. public key on keyservers..keyid: E06D8D8D Key fingerprint = 06 84 11 FD EB 5D 12 F2 9C E6 0C 0A 3F 11 7F 2F -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
delurk
good afternoon! i have been lurking here for about a month and find this an amazing list. i brought up bo on a P83/40mb gateway box with vlb. i am not in a hurry and want to really learn un*x this time. at this point, the machine runs the base system and can print. it has a bus mouse, so i need to do a kernal. i guess that is next (if i can find the kernal source on the cd...) then the plan is to connect with ppp to my isp, and finally to bring up x. one simple question: is there any filter with some laserjet4 support as far as point size and fonts in pcl?? am using magicfilter as was suggested a few days ago. thanks. any comments or suggestions on what to do next are most welcome. happy 98 dave Dave Mallery... [EMAIL PROTECTED] amateur radio K5EN PO Box 520; Ramah, NM 87321 505-783-4784 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
[no subject]
hi could someone explain where i can find an explanation for the fields in /etc/ppp.options_out? thanx dave ps: a nice linux article in current Sky & Telescope -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
pppd and its friends...
At 07:34 PM 1/5/98 -0500, you wrote: >dave mallery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> could someone explain where i can find an explanation for the fields >> in /etc/ppp.options_out? > >Look at what the command pon does: > >cush:~$ which pon >/usr/bin/pon >cush:~$ cat /usr/bin/pon >#!/bin/sh >if [ -r /etc/ppp.options_out -a -r /etc/ppp.chatscript ]; then >/usr/sbin/pppd connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/ppp.chatscript" `cat /etc/ppp.options_out` >else >echo "You do not have permissions to access /etc/ppp.chatscript or /etc/ppp.options_out" >fi > >As you can see, pon is just a little shell script that calls >/usr/sbin/pppd with the following arguments: >connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/ppp.chatscript" >and whatever is in /etc/ppp.options_out > >So to find out more, look at the manpage for pppd. > > hi daniel i wanted to thank you for a great answer that teaches. i came to debian full of frustration at microsoft... unfortunately my long (1969) background never included unix by any name (mostly RSTS and VMS) and i am clambering up a huge learning curve. i think when i am done, i will write a HOWTO entitled: everything i needed to know (and didn't) when the install ended... currently having fits with the modem via the chatscript, but feel like i am in control. thanks again dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
more from the ppp battlefield
hi i wanted to report a small victory in getting ppp to work. (and ask another question) after days of frustration, i remembered that my vanilla distribution kernel supports a non-existant mouse on ttyS0 (that's where my modem lives) ((i have a bus mouse)) i finally just killed the process supporting the mouse... i guess there is a way in some init control file to prevent it from starting gpm. my pon chatscript now worked!!! however, all victories are compromises, so after it reported: (after showing the banner from the isp & the login sequence: Serial connection established. Using interface ppp0 Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS0 then... it reports pairs of LCP ConfReq and ConfNak messages it looks like each one is echoed back immediately... after ten pairs, it reports: Serial line is looped back and shuts down. : ( onr thing i notice is that the connection was at 14.4 and my options show 38.4... however, i can read the banner, etc and the password was passed ok. i would be ever so grateful for some advice. thanx dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: more from the ppp battlefield
At 04:18 PM 1/14/98 -0500, you wrote: >On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, dave mallery wrote: > >> i finally just killed the process supporting the mouse... i guess there is >> a way in some init control file to prevent it from starting gpm. > >/etc/rc*.d/*gpm > >> Serial connection established. >> Using interface ppp0 >> Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS0 >> >> then... it reports pairs of LCP ConfReq and ConfNak messages >> it looks like each one is echoed back immediately... >> after ten pairs, it reports: >> >> Serial line is looped back >> >> and shuts down. : ( >> onr thing i notice is that the connection was at 14.4 and my options >> show 38.4... however, i can read the banner, etc and the password was >> passed ok. > >The chatscript probably finished before the provider was ready for ppp to >start. Dial in with something like minicom, and do the process by hand. >There is probably something at the end you forgot. > >Good luck, >Brandon > > >hi thanks for the reply. (blush) i had the wrong password for logging in... it starts with a captial P, not lower case. now i can ping with abandon all over the net. now i am back to work finding how to get my mail from the isp's mail server. should i use elm or pine or...?? do they work like Eudora and go thru a connection dialog with the mail server every so often?? i re-configured my smail for network. any other suggestions? thanx again dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
finding kernal source
hi could you help me find the kernel source on the Debian 1.3 source cdrom? i need to compile my first kernel for my busmouse. 10q dave -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- Dave Mallery, K5EN po box 520; ramah nm 87321 running Debian GNU/Linux."Free at last" -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
prob with XF86Configure
hi i have the following ModeLines: # 640x480 #ModeLine "640x480" 31 640 664 704 832 480 489 492 520 # 800x600 #ModeLine "800x600" 45 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 # another 800x600 #ModeLine "800x601" 50 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 # 1024x768 ModeLine "1024x768" 75 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 # 1280x1024 ModeLine "1280x1024" 108 1280 1307 1483 1664 1024 1032 1040 1068 (note that the first three are commented out.) *any* one will work. in this case, i will get 1024x768. the last one will get a message saying the " The dimensions of mode 1280x1024 do not match those of the first valid mode (1024x768). if i remove all the #s, then i get 640x480 and all the others are rejected. here's another sample: (**) P9000: Vendor/chipset is vipervlb (Diamond Viper VLB) (**) P9000: (mem: 2048k numclocks: 0 vendor: vipervlb) (--) P9000: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 135.000 MHz (**) P9000: Mode "800x601": mode clock = 50.000 (**) P9000: Mode "1024x768": mode clock = 75.000 (--) P9000: The dimensions of mode 1024x768 do not match those of the first valid mode (800x601). (--) P9000: Removing mode "1024x768" from list of valid modes. (--) P9000: Virtual resolution set to 800x600 (--) P9000: Using hardware cursor (--) P9000: Using 8 bits per RGB value (**) P9000: MemSize: 0x20 MemConfig: 0x2 (--) P9000: DGA double buffering enabled. anyway, i can run at 1024x768 by commenting out all the preceedents. my ModeLines conform exactly to the monitor manual. what is a dimension?? (aside) i could not use the VGA driver cuz my monitor doesn't go that slow (21.75) it starts at 30mhz! that was fun. many thanks for the help with the kernel. took all afternoon to ftp from sunsite, but worked perfectly. dave -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- Dave Mallery, K5EN po box 520; ramah nm 87321 running Debian GNU/Linux."Free at last" -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
some initial X questions
hi 1) could someone comment on the relative merits of emacs vs xemacs?? 2) where is xman?? can't find it on the debian binarys cd-rom. thanx :) dave -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- Dave Mallery, K5EN po box 520; ramah nm 87321 running Debian GNU/Linux."Free at last" -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
confused in NM
i still can't get my Xserver to allow me to change resolutions. it accepts the first available ModeLine in XF86Setup and rejects the rest with: (**) P9000: Mode "1024x768": mode clock = 75.000 (**) P9000: Mode "1280x1024": mode clock = 108.000 (--) P9000: The dimensions of mode 1280x1024 do not match those of the first valid mode (1024x768). (--) P9000: Removing mode "1280x1024" from list of valid modes. (--) P9000: Virtual resolution set to 1024x768 i don't have a clue what 'dimension' it is talking about. from /etc/X11/X11Config: # The accelerated servers (S3, Mach32, Mach8, 8514, P9000, AGX, W32, Mach64) Section "Screen" Driver "accel" Device "Diamond Viper VLB 2Mb" Monitor "Nanao flexscan" Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "640x480" "800x600" "800x601" "1024x768" "1280x1024" ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "640x480" "800x600" ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 32 Modes "640x480" "800x600" ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection EndSection and earlier: # 640x480 #ModeLine "640x480" 31 640 664 704 832 480 489 492 520 # 800x600 #ModeLine "800x600" 45 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 # another 800x600 #ModeLine "800x601" 50 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 # 1024x768 ModeLine "1024x768" 75 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 # 1280x1024 ModeLine "1280x1024" 108 1280 1307 1483 1664 1024 1032 1040 1068 any one of these will work... i can't discern anything wrong. i'd appreciate any insight. -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- Dave Mallery, K5EN po box 520; ramah nm 87321 running Debian GNU/Linux."Free at last" -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
a MANPATH problem
hi when Xman comes up, it does not see my MANPATH variable (so it seems) and can only display the pages located in /usr/man. /home/dmallery>echo $MANPATH /usr/man:/usr/X11R6/man /home/dmallery> also, i have this problem when running emacs on an xterm in SU: /home/dmallery>>emacs Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key emacs: Cannot connect to X server :0.0. Check the DISPLAY environment variable or use `-d'. Also use the `xhost' program to verify that it is set to permit connections from your machine. /home/dmallery>> /home/dmallery>>echo $DISPLAY :0.0 /home/dmallery>> needless to say, emacs works perfectly from my /home account i apologize for the rank odor of newbie, but i am overwhelmed by the vast assortment of new toys in X. -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- Dave Mallery, K5EN po box 520; ramah nm 87321 running Debian GNU/Linux."Free at last" -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
MANPATH etc
thanks much... the MANPATH problem is history. i wonder if you can use the FTP option of dselect to get the secure shell (and the other encryption materials) since it seems to be located in /debian-non-US rather than the usual /stable location. dave -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- Dave Mallery, K5EN po box 520; ramah nm 87321 running Debian GNU/Linux."Free at last" -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Bullshit-->Fired for Linux?
hi i suggest you go to his 'talk back' button on the web page and let him know your thoughts. the list of postings was already about a mile long and very negative... that's what i did dave -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- Dave Mallery, K5EN po box 520; ramah nm 87321 running Debian GNU/Linux."Free at last" -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Xemacs configuration question
hi where do i tell Xemacs about my mail and news server node names?? xemacs-options does not seem to be the spot. thanx -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- Dave Mallery, K5EN po box 520; ramah nm 87321 505-783-4784 running Debian GNU/Linux."Free at last" winNT: from the people who brought us EDLIN. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
netscape 4.04 and gnuchess and pgp
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- hi i can't find the debian installer for the above netscape... is it in hamm?? am i stuck in netscape 3 till then? then this happened: Unpacking gnuchess-book (from .../games/gnuchess-book_1.0.deb) ... Unpacking gnuchess (from .../games/gnuchess_4.0.pl77-1.deb) ... (Noting disappearance of gnuchess-book, which has been completely replaced.) dpkg: error processing gnuchess-book (--install): no package named `gnuchess-book' is installed, cannot configure Setting up gnuchess (4.0.pl77-1) ... Errors were encountered while processing: gnuchess-book DPKG ERROR and finally: i have installed pgp and pgppine filters. seems to work. where does one find info about public key servers?? many thanks - -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- Dave Mallery, K5EN po box 520; ramah nm 87321 505-783-4784 running Debian GNU/Linux."Free at last" winNT: from the people who brought us EDLIN. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNO3PnAJbhNLgbY2NAQG/ogQAhH4prp5Q65dZCkc2ZTkvVZ1ebf/fExiY wIHLhDB+CjUeno41spgcjDN0s5u/nHHJSNpNF0wVIgpZRSN1OCYTInhga+5kWHtH 9EJyJVa9PxJPho7yB/fdz+bqzmzHMpLvJmrWwkdw5eHtWEBRb+jqwgGngbOSTRqd 6QHkxp8L1c4= =mxr/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: WodPerfect Office 2000 on Debian
On Sat, 2 Mar 2002, Phillip Deackes wrote: > I have a copy of Corel's WP Office 2000 which I have never managed to get > working on my Debian unstable box. Using some advice I found on the 'net I > managed to at least eliminate the fontastic font server errors, but now > when I enter 'wordperfect' it tells me it is 'Building font metrics. This > may take some time...'. That message stays on screen for ever. I left it > all night and it was still there in the morning. > > Any ideas? I know Corel WordPerfect 2000 for Linux is not very good, I > know StarOffice, Applix, KOffice et al are better, but I would just like > to try it. > > Many thanks. > hi i tried and failed also. has a lot to do with wine. not to whine, but there is no support available from corel tho they took my hundred bux easily enough. i am going to wait for star office. the beta worked very well (but is no longer available.) dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates no windows... running GNU/Linux free at last! Linux is a trademark of Linus Torvalds
network setup problem
hi i have been getting back to debian from 5 years of r/h. i have a machine dedicated to the process: piii 550 256mb, 3c905 (module 3c59x)... vanilla 2.2r5 potato install here is my first problem at startup: the loopback is missing from the route table if i try to add it manually: route add -net 127.0.0.0 (as per man page) i get SIOCADDRT: invalid argument ifconfig lo shows it up and running. /etc/network/interfaces just shows: iface la inet loopback for it... no ip 127. of course, ping does not work right: the ping display is missing the 'from' part: > ping alfie PING alfie.cia-g.com (10.42.42.110): 56 data bytes then after ctrl/c --- alfie.cia-g.com ping statistics --- 6 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss > this is a pure & simple potato install. i am sure the problem is revealed by the SIOCADDRT error, but i don't know where to look. thank you dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates no windows... running GNU/Linux free at last! Linux is a trademark of Linus Torvalds
previous posting
hi i had posted about being unable to ping via potato. i changed out the 3c905 and it pings! there is still no loopback in my route and i still get the SIOCADDRT error if i try to add it: route add -net 127.0.0.0 sorry for the wasted bandwidth. the card had been ok when i set the machine up... thanks dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates no windows... running GNU/Linux free at last! Linux is a trademark of Linus Torvalds
Re: USB floppy problem
On Sun, 3 Mar 2002, Stefan Bellon wrote: > usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0x644/0x0) is not claimed by any active > driver. hi the above line has the root of the problem. i hit the same thing with a scanner last week (still unresolved) it had been working perfectly (r/h 7.2) and then this started with a kernel upgrade from krud. it sent me back to debian where i can have some more control. hopefully someone can point us in the right direction. it seems to be a driver module problem. dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates no windows... running Debian GNU/Linux (currently 2.2r5) free at last! Linux is a trademark of Linus Torvalds
Re: SoundBlaster Live!, /dev/audio, and bad sound quality
On Sun, 3 Mar 2002, Richard Cobbe wrote: > Greetings, all. > > New sound card (actually, new computer). It's a SoundBlaster Live!, so > I've compiled in support for the emu10k1 module. > > Up-to-date potato, kernel 2.2.20, SMP. > > In general, everything works fine, except that sending .au files to > /dev/audio has really lousy sound quality. You can hear the sound, but > there's a loud hissing or static sound on top of it. I had this > behavior both with emu10k1 v0.7 included with the 2.2.20 source, and > emu10k1 v0.18 that I just downloaded from SourceForge. I tried playing > with various mixer settings, but that didn't help. The only way I could > get rid of the hissing was by turning the volume all the way down. did you mute all the other inputs on the mixer? > Any suggestions would be appreciated, > > Richard > > > -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (2.2r5 potato) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running Debian GNU/Linux ^^-^^ free at last! Linux is a trademark of Linus Torvalds
Re: OT: ping puzzler
On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Nigel Pauli wrote: > I'd be grateful if someone can set my mind at rest on this one. > > I've got a network 10.0.0.0/255.255.255.0. A DHCP server running on NT4 > at 10.0.0.3 looks after a scope running from 10.0.0.25 to 10.0.0.225 > with 10.0.0.200 to 10.0.0.225 excluded from the scope. > > As you can see I've got plenty of leftover addresses to play with and > I've used all the ones 10.0.0.1 to 10.0.0.6 on various statically > addressed servers. > > Today I was setting up a new box and thought I'd better check if > 10.0.0.7 was available so I pinged 10.0.0.7 and got a reply; but as far > as I know nothing is using that IP address. The same happens for > 10.0.0.8 and 10.0.0.9 but once I move into double figures (10.0.0.10) I > get what I expect i.e., no reply. > > Is it possible that some card is replying on more than one address or > do I need to get out there and find who or what is stealing my > bandwidth? > > Nigel > I'd start one of those pings and then go look at my hub... -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (2.2r5 potato) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running Debian GNU/Linux^^-^^ (Linux is a trademark of Linus Torvalds) free at last!
Re: /etc/issue
On Fri, 15 Mar 2002, Michael Kines wrote: > I accidentally erased my /etc/issue . > Now, when I switch alt-ctrl f1, there is no > indication of what tty I am on. Where can > I get that back again? Thanks. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/issue Debian GNU/\s 2.2 \n \l > > > -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (2.2r5 potato) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running Debian GNU/Linux^^-^^ (Linux is a trademark of Linus Torvalds) free at last!
directPC vs Starband (slightly off topic)
hi i will be forced to go to one of the satellite providers shortly. if you are using either or the above (or some other service) i would greatly appreciate some feedback. i am in a totally remote location. is there a problem with directpc's usb ethernet connection? thanks much dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (2.2r5 potato) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running Debian GNU/Linux^^-^^ (Linux is a trademark of Linus Torvalds) free at last!
Re: Debian maintenance question: apt-get vs. dselect vs. dpkg-- help!
On Fri, 15 Mar 2002, wells wrote: > So I have been running Debian for a month now after jumping ship from Red > Hat and I'm trying to devise a solid method of maintaining my system. > > What's the best way of installing things? Apt-get? Dselect? Compiling from > source? > > Moreover, what's the difference? I see apt-get, dselect, dpkg-- what do > these do and how are they different? > > Opinions, thoughts, insights, methodologies appreciated. > hi i just did the same thing potato cds, then after commenting out the cd lines in /etc/apt/sources.list and adding all the debian and ximian sites, about 30 hours of a combination of apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and dselect by itself, i have a wonderful "up to date" potato system with all the ximian desktop wonders. my isp connection, however has proven so slow that i despair of upgrading my other six systems!!! my biggest asset has been a friend at the isp who has done this for himself. there is a simple intro to the package programs in dale sheetz's book: http://people.debian.org/~psg/ddg/ and i have found: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/quick-reference/ to be very valuable. my next project is to get the kernel up to date and then to convert to ext3. fortunately, i have an almost unlimited amount of time to devote. i think i have identified an opportunity for someone here: take a look at the krud distro for red hat. they produce a set of full installation cds every month with the latest patches, etc in place, plus a wide variety of extra packages. this could be a great boon for those with severely restricted dial in bandwidth. i am sure that i can keep up to date on potato via the bandwidth available, but will have to use cds for the transition to woodie, or be run out of town by my isp. (i live in extremely rural new mexico.. there is no other means save satellite). the thing that lead me to jump ship from r/h was after spending a day getting a new usb scanner working, i applied a krud update that upgraded the kernel and that was the end of scanning. i realized i needed more control over what went into my machines. so to answer your original question: i can keep this machine up to date by doing apg-get update&& apt-get upgrade every few days and using dselect to find and install other new packages. good luck dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (2.2r5 potato - current+ximian) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running Debian GNU/Linux^^-^^ (Linux is a trademark of Linus Torvalds) free at last!
Re: An evangelism success -- new Debian convert
On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Karsten M. Self wrote: > what, and has extensive GNU/Linux experience. I'd say he knows whereof > he speaks. > > Notes are at: > > http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=32830 > > Peace. > > could you please tell me where to find the "genlocal" thingie he mentions. i have the perl local problem since my woody upgrade last nite. ... it's not an installed program ... and not an apt-gettable package. thanks dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody+ximian) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last!
Re: An evangelism success -- new Debian convert
On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Alan James wrote: > On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 02:12:00PM -0700, dave mallery wrote: > > > could you please tell me where to find the "genlocal" thingie he mentions. > > i have the perl local problem since my woody upgrade last nite. > > he means /usr/sbin/locale-gen it's in the locales package. > > many thanks... what i had to end up doing was a dpkg-reconfigure locales i found that from the locale-gen man page dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody+ximian) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last!
Re: Window Manager Probs *sigh*
On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, SJ wrote: > I'm really not sure what I did wrong, but... > > After doing an apparently clean install of debian linux on a > new system, Gnome does not come up Window Maker does. I > know we installed Gnome but it's not even in the list of > Window Managers to switch to (actually only Window Maker is > listed there). Any idea what I may have done wrong, or not > done, in setting up the system? I would really like to get > this monster working. I have a db development project I > should be working on and I can't do that until I get the > system up. > > I sincerly hope this is making some sense, if not blame the > time. *sigh* > i had the exact same thing after installing potato..2.2r5. i broke out by: apt-get install enlightenment. then i had a usable system which i almost immediately upgraded to "testing" (woody) and got all the ximian stuff with the upgrade... worlds of difference. dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody+ximian) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last!
Re: cdrw
On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, jeff wrote: > hello folks... > > i'm trying to get my cdwriter to be recognized under > debian... > > seems like i can mount the /cdrom no prob... > > any pointers on how to create a device for the writer? it > seems to detect it ok at boot but i can't mount the > sucker... the test is cdparanoia -Qsv for a thorough scan. i am stuck in the middle of the same problem right now mine is a scsi r/w drive and the setup in /dev is /dev/cdrom -> /dev/sr0 -> /dev/scd0. on an adjacent r/h machine, the working setup is: /dev/cdrom -> /dev/scd0 and cdparanoia announces that the generic device is /dev/sg1 which is nowhere in the chain! cdparanoia needs the generic device apparantly. all help/pointers appreciated! dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody+ximian) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last!
Re: cdda2wav or cdparanoia ?
On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, Gerard Robin wrote: > Hello, > cdda2wav and cdparanoia both run fine to extract the tracks of a CD-audio > what is the advantage to use one rather than another ? > TIA for an advice. > paranoia is much more paranoid about quality, scratches, and jitter. also much slower... but worth it dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody+ximian) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last!
Re: cdda2wav or cdparanoia ?
On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, Jeremy Gaddis wrote: > On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, Matthew Daubenspeck wrote: > > > >Cdparanoia suggests using the SCSI-over-IDE functionality in the kernel to > > >improve its performance, but I find that it works quite well with the > > >plain IDE driver even in the 2.2 kernel. > > > > Would you then use LAME to convert to MP3? > > gogo! have you looked at grip (gnome)? it fronts the whole deal and gives you choices... imho, you should use oggenc and go to ogg vorbis cuz it's free and good! dave mallery no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last!
RE: Are these machines up to it?
On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, Brooks R. Robinson wrote: > | 1: I have a 133MHz pentium, 1Gb disk and 32Mb ram. I want to use this > |as a firewall. > | > | 2: Also an 400MHz AMD K6-2, 6Gb disk and 80Mb ram. This is to be a > |name server and an email server > | > | Neither of them will have X on them, so what I need to know is; > | a: they are not up to the tasks > | b: they are just up to the tasks > | c: they are easily up to the tasks > | > | If the answer is a: or b:, what could be done to improve the > | situation. Asking a lot in a single message, but I dont want to start > | then find that they just won't do the job(s) > > I think that you will find that both of these machines have more than enough > power for the stated uses; so my answer would be 'c'. > > Brooks hi i am using a floppy-only firewall on an old pentium... called floppyfw. it that is all the machine is going to do, it is a great solution... uses late model kernel and is actively maintained. no disk and just two 3c905s dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody+ximian) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last!
still stuck and no gnome anymore
gnome-core got good and stuck: apt-get install gnome-core Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done 1 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 192 not upgraded. Need to get 0B/1440kB of archives. After unpacking 2396kB will be freed. (Reading database ... 56800 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace gnome-core 1.4.0.6-1.ximian.2 (using .../gnome-core_1.4.0.6-2_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement gnome-core ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-core_1.4.0.6-2_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/omf/gnome-core/fdl-C.omf', which is also in package gnome-help-data dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-core_1.4.0.6-2_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) and if i try to remove gnome-help-data, it fails likewise. gnome is gone. i am in sort of a double bind and removing any one is impossible. at a full stop dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody+ximian) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: still stuck and no gnome anymore
On 23 Mar 2002, Glyn Millington wrote: > > Just download the gnome-core deb > > then load it in with dpkg > > dpkg --force-overwrite -i gnome-core_1.4.0.6-2_i386.deb ilbo:~>> dpkg --force-overwrite -i /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-core_1.4.0.6-2_i386.deb (Reading database ... 56806 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace gnome-core 1.4.0.6-1.ximian.2 (using .../gnome-core_1.4.0.6-2_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement gnome-core ... dpkg - warning, overriding problem because --force enabled: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/omf/gnome-core/fdl-C.omf', which is also in package gnome-help-data dpkg - warning, overriding problem because --force enabled: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/omf/gnome-core/gnome-feedback-C.omf', which is also in package gnome-help-data dpkg - warning, overriding problem because --force enabled: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/omf/gnome-core/gnome-feedback-no.omf', which is also in package gnome-help-data dpkg - warning, overriding problem because --force enabled: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/omf/gnome-core/gpl-C.omf', which is also in package gnome-help-data dpkg - warning, overriding problem because --force enabled: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/omf/gnome-core/lgpl-C.omf', which is also in package gnome-help-data dpkg: warning - unable to delete old file `/etc/gnome': Directory not empty Setting up gnome-core (1.4.0.6-2) ... Configuration file `/etc/sound/events/mailcheck.soundlist' ==> File on system created by you or by a script. ==> File also in package provided by package maintainer. What would you like to do about it ? Your options are: Y or I : install the package maintainer's version N or O : keep your currently-installed version D : show the differences between the versions Z : background this process to examine the situation The default action is to keep your current version. *** mailcheck.soundlist (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ? bilbo:~>> after the above, still no gnome... no X, only the login box also tried the above with gnome-help-data, but no cigar. am now profoundly lost. thanks dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody+ximian) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
stuck
hi here's the situation: bilbo:/home/dmallery>> apt-get -f upgrade Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Correcting dependencies... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: gnome-gturing The following NEW packages will be installed: gnome-gnotski libltdl3 The following packages have been kept back autoconf balsa base-config bzip2 console-data console-tools console-tools-libs debhelper dh-make dnsutils enlightenment enlightenment-data exim freetype2 gadfly gaim-gnome gimp1.2 gimp1.2-nonfree glade-gnome gnome-applets gnome-help gnome-pim gnome-pim-conduits groff gs gsfonts htmlgen idle imagemagick libbz2 libfnlib0 libgnomeprint-bin libgnomeprint-data libgwrapguile-dev libhtml-parser-perl libpam-modules libwww-perl mailtools mutt netbase nfs-common ntp perl-5.005-doc ppp pydb pysol pysol-cardsets python-bobo python-bobodtml python-bobopos python-dev python-doc python-elisp python-examples python-extclass python-gdbm python-gendoc python-gnuplot python-imaging python-imaging-sane python-imaging-tk python-kjbuckets python-ldap python-mpz python-netcdf python-numeric python-numeric-tutorial python-pmw python-pygresql python-tk python-xml sawfish sawfish-gnome ssh swig sysklogd tetex-bin util-linux vflib2 wmaker xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-base xfonts-scalable xpdf xsane xserver-svga zope 253 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 1 to remove and 88 not upgraded. 14 packages not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0B/118MB of archives. After unpacking 9598kB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Preconfiguring packages ... (Reading database ... 55280 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace gnome-core 1.4.0.6-1.ximian.2 (using .../gnome-core_1.4.0.6-2_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement gnome-core ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-core_1.4.0.6-2_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/omf/gnome-core/fdl-C.omf', which is also in package gnome-help-data dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-core_1.4.0.6-2_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) bilbo:/home/dmallery>> looks like the process is stuck on a broken gnome-core upgrade. how do i break out?? thanks dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody+ximian) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last!
Re: still stuck and no gnome anymore
peter spake: > Does "apt-get install -f", then "apt-get install gnome-core" help? bilbo:/home/dmallery>> apt-get install -f Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 193 not upgraded. 1 packages not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used. Setting up libbz2-1.0 (1.0.2-1) ... bilbo:/home/dmallery>> apt-get install gnome-core Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done 1 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 192 not upgraded. Need to get 0B/1440kB of archives. After unpacking 2396kB will be freed. (Reading database ... 56806 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace gnome-core 1.4.0.6-1.ximian.2 (using .../gnome-core_1.4.0.6-2_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement gnome-core ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-core_1.4.0.6-2_i386.deb (--unpack): >>> trying to overwrite `/usr/share/omf/gnome-core/fdl-C.omf', which is also >>>>in package gnome-help-data dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-core_1.4.0.6-2_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) bilbo:/home/dmallery>> so there is some kind of interlocking relationship between gnome-core and gnome-help=data... perhaps do them both at once? thanks dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody+ximian) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help -- Scanner problem with MAKEDEV
On Sat, 23 Mar 2002, Cam Ellison wrote: > I am trying to install an Epson 1650 (USB) scanner. Sane is installed, > everything is plugged in, but I cannot get MAKEDEV to do its thing. I have > added a /usb directory to /dev, and run "mknod scanner0 c 180 48" by itself > and in company with MAKEDEV (as MAKEDEV scanner || mknod scanner0 c 180 48). > mknod installs scanner0 OK, but I still get nowhere with MAKEDEV, which I > think should complain that the device is already created. > > sane-find-scanner says "failed to open (status 4)" > > I have been through Google, the MAKEDEV manual is out of date and not useful, > and I am starting to tear out what hair I have left. > > I have usb enabled in the kernel, as well as usb scanner support, and both > ohci and uhci set as modules. I have not tried to insmod them, though since > I have an ALi chipset, I think uhci won't do anything. > > /proc/bus/usb/devices does not exist -- there should be something there. > > i also have this exact problem.. but on a r/h machine. first, you have to be able to load a bunch of modules: alias char-major0180 usb-uhci pre-install usb-uhci alias usb-controller usb-uhci options scanner vendor=0x04B8 product=0x0110 the options line above is for the epson 1650. if there is no /proc/bus/usb/devices, then you are missing usb support in your kernel.. the first three lines above will do that as long as there is usb support there. if you get this far, watch the dmesg for the usb detection and startup: usb-uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xd400, IRQ 9 usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 hub.c: USB hub found hub.c: 2 ports detected usb-uhci.c: v1.251:USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver hub.c: USB new device connect on bus1/2, assigned device number 2 usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0x4b8/0x110) is not claimed by any active driver. now you will have arrived at the problem i have, which is visible in the last line of the above. it was working perfectly just before a recent upgrade of the kernel (a minor 2.4.xx) and then it stopped.. xsane (which was working perfectly) will report that it can't find any devices. one of the reasons i came to debian was to get more control over my software as illustrated above. not there yet. i will get back to this problem as soon as i have woody stabilized. keep in touch dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody+ximian) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help -- Scanner problem with MAKEDEV
On Sun, 24 Mar 2002, Cam Ellison wrote: > usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0x4b8/0x110) is not claimed by any active > driver. > > usb.c: kusbd: /sbin/hotplug add 2 > usb.c: kusbd policy returned 0xfffe > > > now you will have arrived at the problem i have, which is visible in the > > last line of the above. it was working perfectly just before a recent > > upgrade of the kernel (a minor 2.4.xx) and then it stopped.. > > > There seems to be some similarity, in that both are reporting a device not > claimed. Mine is plugged into port 1 (I assume). I have some modules that > are not inserted, in anticipation of a new mouse (though with what the > scanner cost, my wife would have a fit if i spent any more for a while). > > > xsane (which was working perfectly) will report that it can't find any > > devices. > > > I haven't tried xsane yet, just sane (scanimage). > > > one of the reasons i came to debian was to get more control over my > > software as illustrated above. not there yet. > > now we both have the same problem. i believe we need to submit a bug to the author of scanner.o... however, i am not famailiar with the process in the next few days, i will move the scanner over to the woody machine and see if the problem is still there. right now, i am embroiled with gnome/ximian problems btw: you also need to edit /etc/sane.d/epson. comment out the scsi and uncomment the usb lines. later dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody+ximian) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: login via serial console
On Sun, 24 Mar 2002, Ramesh Panuganty wrote: > > Edit /etc/inittab to add the line, (if you use COM2 to connect, change ttyS0 > to ttyS1) > s0:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty ttyS0 DT9600 > > Then issue: "kill -HUP 1" > > If you also need to see the boot-up messages, you need to change > /etc/lilo.conf to pass the options for console. > don't you need a null modem cable as well? that's rx -> tx and vice versa. > > > -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody+ximian) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: still stuck and no gnome anymore
On Sat, 23 Mar 2002, Bryan W. Headley wrote: hi brian first let me say that i spent a long time yesterday going round and round with dselect... all but three packages are now installed and configured. dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of abiword-gtk: abiword-gtk depends on abiword-common; however: Package abiword-common is not installed. dpkg: error processing abiword-gtk (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libgwrapguile-dev: libgwrapguile-dev depends on libgwrapguile1 (= 1.1.11-5); however: Package libgwrapguile1 is not installed. dpkg: error processing libgwrapguile-dev (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Setting up libpspell-ispell1 (0.12-4) ... /var/lib/dpkg/info/libpspell-ispell1.postinst: pspell-config: command not found /var/lib/dpkg/info/libpspell-ispell1.postinst: ./make-ispell-pwli: No such file or directory dpkg: error processing libpspell-ispell1 (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: abiword-gtk libgwrapguile-dev libpspell-ispell1 i must have been around the install loop a dozen times. that finally cleared out the previously long list of uninstalled packages. > > Little parade... arn't perceptions interesting? > > Okay, let's look at your /etc/alternatives directory. > > ls -l x-* > > Mine reads, > > [cut] x-session-manager -> /usr/bin/gnome-session > [cut] x-window-manager -> /usr/bin/sawfish > > [cut] means I didn't paste it over. I'm only concerned with > x-session-manager and x-window-manager. Actually, I'm less concerned > with x-window-manager, because you might have "enlightenment" or > "metacity" or one of the 'x'Step window managers. I don't care; is > "gnome-session" your x-session-manager? > bilbo:/etc/alternatives>> ll x-* | less lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 22 Mar 24 11:32 x-session-manager -> /usr/bin/gnome-session* lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 16 Mar 24 11:33 x-window-manager -> /usr/bin/sawfish* lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 32 Mar 15 14:42 x-window-manager.1.gz -> /usr/X11R6/man/man1/wmaker.1x.gz (END) > > Now, let's go to /etc/X11. Do, > > cat default-display-manager bilbo:/etc/X11>> cat default-display-manager /usr/bin/gdm > > Mine sez, > > /usr/bin/gdm > > yours? If not, become root, bring up vi, emacs, or whatever, and fix. > > BTW, did you get the rest of the gnome packages to install via dselect? > All unpacked, installed, configured? Are you sure? Let's find out. Bring > up dselect, just choose option 3, and see if it configures/installs > anything. If it does, that's actually a good sign. Means it left stuff > unconfigured after it figured out gnome-core was bad. > > Now, are any of the ximian gnome packages still out there? > > (you are still root) > cd /var/lib/dpkg/info > ls *ximian* ximian-doorman.list ximian-faq.prerm ximian-north.postinst ximian-utils.md5sums ximian-doorman.md5sums ximian-menus.list ximian-north.prerm ximian-utils.postinst ximian-doorman.postinst ximian-menus.md5sums ximian-south.list ximian-utils.prerm ximian-doorman.prerm ximian-menus.postinst ximian-south.md5sums ximian-wallpapers.list ximian-faq.list ximian-menus.prerm ximian-south.postinst ximian-wallpapers.md5sums ximian-faq.md5sums ximian-north.list ximian-south.prerm ximian-wallpapers.postinst ximian-faq.postinst ximian-north.md5sums ximian-utils.list ximian-wallpapers.prerm > > Anybody? Because I get the impression that you are trying to overwrite > all the ximian stuffage, right? If so, and some are still there, whew! > Removal is called for. I'm hoping re-running dselect fixed your wagon, > because this is surgery. I'm not giving you the knife without seeing the > patient first. i am not clear. i was hoping for a ximian-gnome desktop. > > Let's bring gnome up the "right" way after all this hackery. > > (you are still root) > cd /etc/init.d > ./gdm stop; exec ./gdm start > > (stand back. Gnome login panel & X Server should appear) this is interesting. when i do that on the actual machine, it sez: Stopping GNOME Display Manager: gdm. Starting GNOME Display Manager: gdm. and then gives me a console login (no X) if i do it from ssh (got two machines side by each) then it puts the gdm login box on the target machine, but that just continues as usual: box -> login -> flash -> box. i no longer get the "starting gnome" box (the one with the parad
Re: still stuck and no gnome anymore
On 24 Mar 2002, Glyn Millington wrote: > > Are you still lost or have you cracked it? > still there... see my other post to bryan headley > Forgive me - I've cleared out the earlier posts! What exactly do you get > when you try to start X ? Do you have an .xinitrc or an .xsession file > in your home directory and would you mind posting it? bilbo:~> cat .xinitrc # Enlightenment inserted Execution string here exec /usr/bin/enlightenment bilbo:~> cat .xsession # Enlightenment inserted Execution string here exec /usr/bin/enlightenment odd... i used to have sawfish running fine. > > You appear to be mixing Debian and Ximian components in your Gnome setup > - maybe someone else here knows if that is A Good Thing (TM)? > a friend had me include ximian in my /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://red-carpet.ximian.com/debian stable main (i don't believe they have a 'testing') i know that he is successfully running ximian on his woody. thanks so much dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody+ximian) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help -- Scanner problem with MAKEDEV
hi you also should look at: http://www.eugeneteo.net/?fuseaction=linuxusbscanner dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody+ximian) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: still stuck and no gnome anymore
On Mon, 25 Mar 2002, Bryan W. Headley wrote: > dave mallery wrote: > > On Mon, 25 Mar 2002, Bryan W. Headley wrote: > > > > so getting them is not the problem, as they are there! > > That's why I use dselect over apt. None of the front-ends are up to > part. Neither is dselect, but I figured out a pattern for using it where > it doesn't sneak *so many* bizarro dependencies. if that pattern is not too complicated, could you outline it?? > > > maybe i should wait for a woody cdrom and start over unless i can unstick dselect and friends, i will have to start over... without a ximian in sources.list > > Won't help you. I'm running woody here. But I'm using debian's Gnome > packages exclusively. It's when you mix Ximian in that things become > weird. And that was true back when I used RedHat 7.2, also. Their ideas > of what goes into a package is different than RH's, different from the > Debian packagers. i tried it back in r/h 7.1 and found i could no longer upgrade it via krud, as i did monthly. so much for ximian then. > > Whenever something shitty happened to the X server or friends, I somehow > tracked it back to what they've done. Good software; bad packagers. > > Hells smells, I'm using the Gnome stuff from Woody! It's going to be odd > though when they convert over to Gnome 2. Had an argument with the > maintainer > about the use of /opt for kde and gnome. They're religiously against it. > A mistake; > I don't want 800 files hanging out in /usr/bin, when 600 of 'em are > gnome2 and kde3... > well, at least huge disks are cheap! i use a 3gb /usr. thanks again dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody+ximian) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: still stuck and no gnome anymore
hi i poked at your script so it would just list 'em to see what it might do. there were only an amazing few ximians but i guess many of the gnomes came from ximian as well (if i remember the download correctly) ximian-doorman ximian-faq ximian-menus ximian-north ximian-south ximian-utils ximian-wallpapers and that's all she wrote. having nothing to lose, i will proceed and do it. (5 minutes of merry purging ensue...) ... but am i "totally, utterly" clean?? i shut down gdm and said "startx" lo and behold: up comes enlightenment . . no wonder they call it E! i'm gonna go ponder this for a while as always, thank you dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody+ximian) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: still stuck and no gnome anymore
On 25 Mar 2002, Dale Hair wrote: > > > > > i shut down gdm and said "startx" > > > > lo and behold: up comes enlightenment . . no wonder they call it E! > > > > i'm gonna go ponder this for a while > > > > as always, > > > > thank you > > > This happened to me once, after a dist-upgrade I think. After running > out of ideas I did the windows thing and rebooted. Everything was just > fine after that. > if i reboot, i get the loginbox -> flash flash -> loginbox routine. so i shut gdm and startx. rebooting has not helped much this go-round. without any gnome on the box, gdm can't do much. guess i'll insert an exit 0 at the top of /etc/init.d/gdm. also, having purged everything gnome or ximian related, my apt-get etc is clogged with gnome + ximian packages wanting to be re-installed. so i guess they are still in deb form in /var/apt... think i need a night's sleep. dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody+ximian) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: still stuck and no gnome anymore
On 25 Mar 2002, Dale Hair wrote: > happened to me. > > Do you have any packages in /var/cache/apt/archives/partial. I had a > problem with packages that would neither install nor could I purge them, > with apt not able to install anything. I worked on it for the better > part of the day to fix it but I can not remember just what worked. I do > remember some packages in .../partial/ that I removed. > good morning! ok... the subdirectory /partial/ in /var/cache/apt/archives/ is empty. there are packages that seem to be partial, and other packages in the archive that are not installed... for instance, x86 seems partial because i can't find the program that allows you to change over to 4. the installed gcc is 2.95.4 but there is a deb package for 3.0 there. right now, i can't do anything with dselect & friends because it is clogged up with all the freshly deleted gnome and ximian packages trying to get re-installed, as well as old libwrapguile1 (which isn't in the debs, but is needed). bilbo:/home/dmallery>> apt-get install libwrapguile1 Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done E: Couldn't find package libwrapguile1 bilbo:/home/dmallery>> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-xfree86 is not fully installed bilbo:/home/dmallery>> XFree86 -configure bash: XFree86: command not found so, my question is: do i also have to delete all these packages from the archive and then burn what little bandwidth there is in northern new mexico to re-load them later??? should i just shuffle them off to another directory? still stuck and no gnome... dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody+ximian) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Is .RTF an Open Standard?
On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, John F wrote: > Dave Sherohman wrote: > > >On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 10:23:34AM -0600, Kent West wrote: > > > >>I'm trying to educate some users on the dangers of proprietary file > >>formats. But to make sure I've got my facts right, I need to ask: Is the > >>Rich Text Format (.rtf) an open standard? (In other words, can I say > >>something like "Use an open standard format, like .RTF"? Or do I need to > >>say "Use a less proprietary format like .RTF"? I would prefer to say the > >>first one.) I understand it was developed by Microsoft, but is it owned > >>by Microsoft? Do I understand that there are actually two different .RTF > >>formats? > >> > > > >My understanding is that there is an official RTF spec which is owned > >by Microsoft, but available to everyone, and a "real" RTF spec which > >essentially boils down to "however the current version of Word feels > >like doing things". I would definitely consider RTF to be "less > >proprietary" rather than "open". > > > >OTOH, RTF is substantially better than doc simply be virtue of not > >being able to host viruses/worms/trojans. > > > I though RTF was actually an IBM invention, and was a response to > Adobe's PostScript. > > I could well be wrong though. I seem to recall that RTF existed in IBM > in 1992 anyway. > i havent seen anyone mention XML. both star and open office now use it. it is open by default. dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody+ximian) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Re: CALL FOR HELP
On 27 Mar 2002, Elizabeth Barham wrote: > =?iso-8859-1?q?=20?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > FROM: MRS MARYAM XXX > > XX COTE D' IVOIRE > > TEL:XXX- XX-XX-XX-XX > > [snip for confidentiality] > > I responded to a similar letter a while back concerning the civil > unrest in Nigeria and the plot of smuggling funds into the United > States, but the recipient failed to respond. > > What are you all's opinion of this letter? Did anyone else respond to > the others? Is anyone going to help this person by visiting that part > of the world? Is there anyone on this list living in Abidjan? > > I do wonder if this letter is a form of propaganda against the old > rulers of these nations - the military elite that may have possessed, > or may have allegedly possessed, large funds of money. It seems that > if someone really has millions of dollars they wouldn't need to be > spamming a debian user group looking for help. > > Elizabeth > this is a giant scam they get your bank account number and byebye -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody+ximian) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wheel Mouse
On Fri, 29 Mar 2002, jeff wrote: > Johan Ehnberg wrote: > > > Hi! > > Is there a good way to get my mouse wheel working (under X) on my woody? > > Another thing I was wondering is why my mouse stops working under X when I > > install gpm. > > > > /johan > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > use a proggie called 'imwheel' to get your mousewheel running under X. before > you download it, two things: > > 1) do this in your home directory: 'touch .imwheelrc' > > 2) edit (in your home directory) your .xinitrc file with your favorite > text-mode editor (like vi, or pico) and add the line 'imwheel &' - without > the > quotes of course > > restart X and all should be good but all is not good! does the above imply any changes to XF86Config?? like ZaxisMapping "4 5" and does it imply xf86 v3 or v4?? thanks dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody+ximian) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: success story
On Sat, 30 Mar 2002, faisal gillani wrote: > i am a windows network administrator & about a month > ago on one of my network i placed a debian linux > server + apache webserver on the other hand i had a > windows 2000 server running Ms ISA server > the place on which these servers are running have some > power outage problems that are beyond my control . the > windows 2000 was a AMD athalon 750 mhz + 256 MB ram > Debian Linux 2.2 was cyrix 300 mhz + 128 mb of ram > now since the day of installation i had to reinstall > windows 2000 3 times & that debain 2.2 is running as > smoth as the day i installed it amazing very > reliable this is my first linux experience & i must > say i am very impressed .. debian totally RULES !!! :D > & the best of all its fr not like that M$ OS > i think that day isnt far away that ill become a LINUX > administrator > had this experience so thaught should share it with > you guys > > take care > Faisal perhaps we should change the old saw: you get what you pay for -> you get what you work on. -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody+ximian) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Logging transactions
On Sat, 30 Mar 2002, Tony Anand wrote: > Hi All, > I'm using Debian 2.2r5. Is there some place that the input and output that > you see on the > screen gets logged? > I'm trying to install some software from a cd-rom, and I get through about > 75% percent of > the installation (15 screens full of information that scrolls by pretty > quickly), before I > run into an error. > Is there some way for me to write this info to a log file for > troubleshooting, and still be > able to see it on the screen? > Thanks, > Tony. man script -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody+ximian) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Permissions and scsi cdrom?
On Sat, 30 Mar 2002, Cheryl Homiak wrote: > I now have both a cdrom and a cdrw on my machine. They are both ide/atapi but > i > am using scsi emulation; the cdrw is scd0 and the cdrom is scd1. I have no > problem accessing the cdrom or the cdrw as far as mounting or listening to > audio > cds. However, when I try to run abcde and/or cdparanoia I get errors about > "unable to open cdrom". when I run cdparanoia with the -v option, the > indication > is > Checking /dev/cdrom for cdrom... > Testing /dev/cdrom for cooked ioctl() interface > /dev/scd1 is not a cooked ioctl CDROM. > Testing /dev/cdrom for SCSI interface > No generic SCSI device found to match CDROM device /dev/scd1 on a r/h machine that works: orch:~> cdparanoia -Qsv cdparanoia III release 9.8 (March 23, 2001) Checking /dev/cdrom for cdrom... Testing /dev/cdrom for cooked ioctl() interface /dev/scd0 is not a cooked ioctl CDROM. Testing /dev/cdrom for SCSI interface generic device: /dev/sg1 ioctl device: /dev/scd0 notice the /dev/sg1 "generic device" zorch:~> ll /dev/cdrom lrwxrwxrwx1 root root9 Feb 7 16:23 /dev/cdrom -> /dev/scd0 zorch:~> ll /dev/scd0 brw---1 dmallery disk 11, 0 Aug 30 2001 /dev/scd0 zorch:~> ll /dev/sg1 crw---1 dmallery disk 21, 1 Aug 30 2001 /dev/sg1 zorch:~> one machine over, running woody: bilbo:~> cdparanoia =Qsv /dev/cdrom exists but isn't accessible. By default, cdparanoia stops searching for an accessible drive here. Consider using -sv to force a more complete autosense of the machine. More information about /dev/cdrom: Checking /dev/cdrom for cdrom... Testing /dev/cdrom for cooked ioctl() interface /dev/scd0 is not a cooked ioctl CDROM. Testing /dev/cdrom for SCSI interface No generic SCSI device found to match CDROM device /dev/scd0 bilbo:~> ll /dev/cdrom lrwxrwxrwx1 root audio 3 Mar 12 12:29 /dev/cdrom -> sr0 bilbo:~> ll /dev/sr0 lrwxrwxrwx1 root audio 4 Mar 12 12:29 /dev/sr0 -> scd0 bilbo:~> ll /dev/scd0 brw-rw-rw-1 dmallery audio 11, 0 Jun 13 2001 /dev/scd0 bilbo:~> groups dmallery audio i guess this is a common problem... i wish someone could explain this "generic device" > > Yet when I run abcde and/or cdparanoia as root, there is no problem. I assume > this is some kind of permissions problem, but I can't seem to find the source > of > it. > /dev/cdrom is the symlink to /dev/scd1 and /dev/cdrecord is the symlink to > /dev/scd0. I am also a member of the cdrom group. I didn't have any trouble > with > these programs before converting to scsi. > Can anybody see what I need to change here? ^ we > > -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody+ximian) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
still stuck
hi i am trying to get gnome back on my "woody" machine. i purged the three aps that were really stuck using dpkg. (large amounts of learning going on) all the gnome stuff that we purged last week (in order to get x running) want to get re-installed (cuz the debs are sitting there) i did an apt-get -f install and exerpt the following problem: Unpacking libgnome-vfs-common (from .../libgnome-vfs-common_1.0.5-1_i386.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libgnome-vfs-common_1.0.5-1_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/vfs/modules/libcdda.so', which is also in package libgnome-vfs0 dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) ... Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/libgnome-vfs-common_1.0.5-1_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) bilbo:~>> now i have a big bunch of unpacked packages that have not been configured and this one which is broken and probably not unpacked. what to do next? also, another problem: i have all these debs on the machine, the result of 30 hours of downloading.. i was reading posts about creating a local archive via apt-move: bilbo:~>> man apt-move No manual entry for apt-move bilbo:~>> apt-move -v bash: apt-move: command not found does this mean i am missing some big pieces? thanks dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody+ximian) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: still stuck
On Sun, 31 Mar 2002, Simon Hepburn wrote: > dave mallery wrote: > > > i did an apt-get -f install and exerpt the following problem: > > > > Unpacking libgnome-vfs-common (from > > .../libgnome-vfs-common_1.0.5-1_i386.deb) ... > > dpkg: error processing > > /var/cache/apt/archives/libgnome-vfs-common_1.0.5-1_i386.deb (--unpack): > > trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/vfs/modules/libcdda.so', which is also in > > package libgnome-vfs0 > > libgnome-vfs-common replaces libgnome-vfs0. Try purging libgnome-vfs0 first. bilbo:/var/cache/apt>> dpkg --purge libgnome-vfs0 dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of libgnome-vfs0: nautilus-mozilla depends on libgnome-vfs0 (>= 0.4.2). evolution depends on libgnome-vfs0 (>= 0.4.2). galeon depends on libgnome-vfs0 (>= 0.4.2). libeel0 depends on libgnome-vfs0 (>= 0.4.2). nautilus depends on libgnome-vfs0 (>= 0.4.2). bug-buddy depends on libgnome-vfs0 (>= 0.4.2). gedit depends on libgnome-vfs0 (>= 0.4.2). dpkg: error processing libgnome-vfs0 (--purge): dependency problems - not removing Errors were encountered while processing: libgnome-vfs0 anyway, i ran dselect configure and it installed the other pending ones but, as expected: running dpkg --pending --configure ... dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of gnome-control-center: gnome-control-center depends on libgnome-vfs0 (>= 0.4.2); however: Package libgnome-vfs0 is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing gnome-control-center (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: gnome-control-center dpkg --configure returned error exit status 1. Press to continue. > > > bilbo:~>> man apt-move > > No manual entry for apt-move > > does this mean i am missing some big pieces? > > It means you need to install apt-move bilbo:/var/cache/apt>> apt-get install apt-move Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: balsa: Depends: gnome-help but it is not going to be installed gaim-gnome: Depends: gnome-panel but it is not going to be installed gnumeric: Depends: gnome-libs-data (>= 1.4.1.2-6) but it is not going to be installed libgnome-vfs0: Depends: libgnome-vfs-common but it is not going to be installed libgnome32: Depends: gnome-libs-data (>= 1:1.4.1.4-1.ximian.3) but it is not going to be installed libgnomesupport0: Depends: gnome-libs-data (>= 1:1.4.1.4-1.ximian.3) but it is not going to be installed libgnomeui32: Depends: gnome-libs-data (>= 1:1.4.1.4-1.ximian.3) but it is not going to be installed libgnorba27: Depends: gnome-libs-data (>= 1:1.4.1.4-1.ximian.3) but it is not going to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). bilbo:/var/cache/apt>> anyway, this is what i mean by stuck. if only there were woody cds available, i could just start over from scratch. guess i had better wait. thanks dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody+ximian) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rescue floppy
On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, fti International wrote: > Hello, > > My question is simple. The size of the rescue floppy on debian web > site, under the directory /...1.44/, is 1.4mb.But a floppy > labeled "1.44mb", once formatted by DOS or Windows, has only > 1.38mb available.How can a 1.4mb-size file fit into a 1.38mb-size > floppy? I think I need help on this. > > Cong Xing > you copy the image to the floppy via dd. (man dd) dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody+ximian) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: not so stuck
hi again i have finally slashed my way back to a gnome desktop. many thanks for your patient understanding. dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody+ximian) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gnome terminal problem
hi been working on my neat woody-gnome system today... (it finally is unstuck) prompt>gnome-terminal gnome-terminal: relocation error: gnome-terminal: undefined symbol: zvt_term_set_meta_use_high_bit that's all she wrote dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody+ximian) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cdrecord glitch
hi i wonder if anyone recognizes this: bilbo:/home/dmallery>> cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=0,6,0 cd_image Cdrecord 1.10 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 Jörg Schilling TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM cdrecord: Invalid argument. Cannot get mmap for 4198400 Bytes on /dev/zero. i get it on two different iso images, the same 4198400 bytes on both bilbo:/home/dmallery>> ll cd_image -rw-r--r--1 root dmallery 668073984 Apr 4 13:56 cd_image bilbo:/home/dmallery/rip-52>> ll *.iso.bin -rw-r--r--1 dmallery dmallery 4456448 Apr 4 09:56 rip-52.iso.bin so many things are suddenly working on this machine that i don't know where to start! (including my scanner!) thanks dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody+ximian) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
more on cdrecord
hi i found this a little while later: bilbo:/home/dmallery/rip-52>> cdrecord dev=6,0 -inq Cdrecord 1.10 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 Jörg Schilling scsidev: '6,0' scsibus: 0 target: 6 lun: 0 Linux sg driver version: 2.1.39 Using libscg version 'schily-0.5' Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 2 Response Format: 2 Capabilities : SYNC Vendor_info: 'YAMAHA ' Identifikation : 'CRW8424S' Revision : '1.0g' Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW. bilbo:/home/dmallery/rip-52>> cdrecord dev=6,0 -prcap Cdrecord 1.10 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 Jörg Schilling cdrecord: Invalid argument. Cannot get mmap for 4198400 Bytes on /dev/zero. the man page sez that -prcap prints the drive capabilities for scsi-3/mmc compliant drives... from dmesg: sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 24x/16x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.11 btw, i have burned with this drive before, but on r/h. thanks dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody+ximian) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SOLVED IT! Permissions and scsi cdrom?
On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Cheryl Homiak wrote: > I found the answer! > Sg0 sg1, etc. for generic scsi, which get used somehow but aren't actually > linked to scd0 and scd1 or /cdrom etc., has permissions that don't allow you > to > access them as a user. since sg0 and sg1 etc. don't belong to the cdrom group > either, this doesn't help any. I changed my permissions for the relevant sg > drives to 766 (actually, I think 666 would have been ok) and now abcde and > cdparanoia work fine for me as a user. > you got it! in my case, the device is sg3... chmodded it to 666 and made sure to change the generic scsi device name in grip: config:rip. thanks -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody+ximian) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re-post: gnome terminal woe
hi there was a new gnome-terminal in this morning's 20mb of apt-get. however, it is still broken: prompt>gnome-terminal gnome-terminal: relocation error: gnome-terminal: undefined symbol: zvt_term_set_meta_use_high_bit that's all she wrote dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody+ximian) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: re-post: gnome terminal woe
On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Nathan E Norman wrote: > > > > prompt>gnome-terminal > > gnome-terminal: relocation error: gnome-terminal: undefined symbol: > > zvt_term_set_meta_use_high_bit > > > > Here's your problem ... ximian links against libraries in stable. > woody is testing, not stable. ximian have stated that they won't > support testing. > > I you want testing, run the debian gnome packages. If you want > ximian, run debian stable. > good enough. last nite i installed woody on another machine from an 8 cd set that was mastered on 3/15/02. it seems pretty nice. i will give it the woody net sources and see how she runs. it's a shame to abandon all the work and bandwidth, but i think i will just start over on this machine with the woody cds. thanks dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SOLVED: X broken after sid update, Matrox driver error
On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Paul Mackinney wrote: > Simon Hepburn declaimed: > > Paul Mackinney wrote: > > > > > After apt-get dist-updating to the latest version of sid last night > > > (approx 2002-04-03 23:00 PST), I can't start X-windows. > > > > > Anyone else having problems? Should I report a bug? > > > > Well, is this is a matrox bug or an X bug ? I would post to debian-x > > initially, rather than file a bug report. > It's a matrox bug... sort of. After remembering that I have a brain, I > reinstalled the custom beta mga drivers I got from the Matrox website > and well (blush) all is OK. doh! Paul: the only custom drivers i can find on the matrox site have to be compiled from source along with X and under a 2.4 kernel. is that the only way to get em?? thanks dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fatal error: no screens found
On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, Simon Hepburn wrote: > > (**) MGA(0): Using framebuffer device > > You aren't using the framebuffer. > > > Section "Device" > > Identifier "Generic Video Card" > > Driver "mga" > > Comment out this line: > ># Option "UseFBDev" "true" > > > Videoram32768 > > EndSection > thank you so very much for the above... i'd been stuck all day. a sorta wierd window, with panels huge and xterms regular, but an X window! later dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
module: xfree or kernel?
this message is at the end of my dmesg: [drm] The mga drm module requires the agpgart module to function correctly Please load the agpgart module before you load the mga module [drm] The mga drm module requires the agpgart module to function correctly Please load the agpgart module before you load the mga module bilbo:~> i presume it is referring to an X11 module? Section "Module" Load"GLcore" Load"bitmap" Load"dbe" Load"ddc" Load"dri" Load"extmod" Load"freetype" Load"glx" Load"int10" Load"pex5" Load"record" Load"speedo" Load"type1" Load"vbe" Load"xie" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Generic Video Card" Driver "mga" # Option "UseFBDev" "true" EndSection if i add Load "agpgart" to the module section, i still get the error message appended to dmesg. i do not have the custom matrox driver installed. thank you dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
scanner gone again....
my epson perfection 1650 scanner was recognized and working under the "woody upgrade from potato" system that i abandoned last week. (i then got a very recent woody iso and spent the hours upgrading to very current)... it's much smoother and forgiving on the installs. now this again: Linux version 2.2.20 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.7.2.3) #1 Mon Dec 31 07:05:08 EST 2001 ... hub.c: USB new device connect on bus1/2, assigned device number 2 usb.c: USB new device connect, assigned device number 2 usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0x4b8/0x110) is not claimed by any active driver. ... last line is the only symptom my unchanged /etc/modules: unix af_packet 3c59x uhci options scanner vendot=0x04B8 product=0x0110 es1371 agpgart and /proc/bus/usb/devices: T: Bus=01 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#= 1 Spd=12 MxCh= 2 B: Alloc= 0/900 us ( 0%), #Int= 0, #Iso= 0 D: Ver= 1.00 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor= ProdID= Rev= 0.00 S: Product=USB UHCI-alt Root Hub S: SerialNumber=d400 C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=40 MxPwr= 0mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 8 Ivl=255ms T: Bus=01 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=01 Cnt=01 Dev#= 2 Spd=12 MxCh= 0 D: Ver= 1.00 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor=04b8 ProdID=0110 Rev= 1.10 S: Manufacturer=EPSON S: Product=EPSON Scanner C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr= 2mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff Driver=(none) E: Ad=81(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl= 0ms E: Ad=02(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl= 0ms and yes i modified /etc/sane.d/epson.conf to reflect the usb scanner. my copier has both feet in the grave. the whole scanner project was to replace it so i can fill the grave. i left r/h because of the above... thanks dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
scanner demise
hi i posted a long-winded situation report on the sudden demise of my scanner last night. i think the real symptom is that the epson 1650 works under potato's 2.2.19 and not under 2.2.20 in woody. i had the same problem in r/h where it was working fine and then ceased after a kernel upgrade. in this case, it was in the 2.4 series... currently 2.4.9-31. since it was working in both 2.2 and 2.4, what must have changed is scanner.o or one of the other usb modules. at this point, i run up against a wall. i could not find a maintainer for scanner.o in the maintainers file in the kernel sources. any suggestions? thank you dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: scanner demise
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > * dave mallery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: > > hi > > > > i posted a long-winded situation report on the sudden demise of my scanner > > last night. > > > > i think the real symptom is that the epson 1650 works under potato's > > 2.2.19 and not under 2.2.20 in woody. i had the same problem in r/h where > > it was working fine and then ceased after a kernel upgrade. in this case, > > it was in the 2.4 series... currently 2.4.9-31. since it was working in > > both 2.2 and 2.4, what must have changed is scanner.o or one of the other > > usb modules. > > > > at this point, i run up against a wall. i could not find a maintainer for > > scanner.o in the maintainers file in the kernel sources. > > > > any suggestions? > > Check kernel .config files carefully. Most likely, something was compiled > in in the old kernel, and not in the new one -- you'll have to load a > module with the new kernel. > > I'm assuming you're talking about pre-compiled kernels, right? Maybe > you should try rolling your own, it's very easy with make-kpkg. > hi i compared the two config files. there is an additional usb entry in the 2.2.20 config: config_hotplug=y everything else in usb is identical. just for fun, i tried unplugging and re-plugging the usb cable.. no joy. so does anyone have any suggestions? this is the first real thing i have found so far. thanks again dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
make-kpkg
hi trying to make a revised 2.2.20 kernel package. running without root in /usr/src/linux per the excellent newbiedoc howto: >make-kpkg clean ... blur >make-kpkg --revision=custom.1.0 kernel_image --append_to_version=x01 ...snip about 20 minutes of blur touch stamp-build need root priviledges make: *** [kernel-image-deb] Error 1 > yes, i am in src group. and i used --append-to-version because the man says --flavour is depreciated. thanks dave -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (r/h 7.2 krud; debian woody) PO Box 520 Ramah, NM 87321 no gates .~. no windows... /V\ /( )\ running GNU/Linux ^^-^^ (Linux TM Linus Torvalds) free at last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
