Re: OT: mass installation on XBox
On 0, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > also sprach Jamin W. Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.10.03.2330 +0200]: > > Yes, it is, but that doesn't make it any less of a reality. As for who > > these people are, I believe the term is "politician". > > Why the fuck are we accepting this? The next person to say "democracy" > will get my foot up their butt. Democa... sorry. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "This does not happen very often in Northallerton." - Siobhan Cowton, 14, of Yorkshire, after being hit by a meteorite. Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg05403/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mass installation on XBox (and economics)
On 0, David P James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [SNIP!] > Conclusion: you, the marginal consumer, might be able to stick it to MS > for $100 or $200, but any concerted attempt to stick it to MS in this > way is not going to work. MS wins again. M$ is rumored to have ~$50 billion in cash reserves. That's 500 million xboxen to drain it... Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "That you're not paranoid does not mean they're not out to get you." - Robert Waldner Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg05404/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Windows Metafiles (Alternative?)
On 0, Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, thanks for interesting Linux/windows inter-operability tricks.
[snip]
> I wonder if you can print your data directly to printer from the windows
> application in question. If it is yes to this question, you should be
> able to create a PS file as an output file of printing operation using
> print-to-file option and printer driver such as ones for apple laser
> printers.
I can't add local printers to the machine (disabled by an
administrator), just network ones. So I'd need to find a PS printer
on the network that I have permission to connect to ('doze wants a
permissable connection before it will add the printer).
> Once you print to a file using PS file format in windows, you can move
> to a Linux box and do your trick with EPS. No Word/OpenOffice are
> needed in this approach.
It'd be nice...
> Even if you can not print from the original windows application in
> question, you can print PS file from MSWord. That makes 1 less step (No
> large OpenOffice to start).
Yeah, but like I said I can't add the printer.
I'm told that there are only a couple of API calls involved in saving
the clipboard to a windows metafile, and there are tools for
converting WMF to EPS, but I'm not really up with windows API stuff,
so I think I'll stick with what I've got. It does the job, slowly but
surely.
Tom
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Re: Very OT: mass installation on XBox
On 0, Antonio Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >The issue is not the modification of the hardware, per se, but rather > >the data that can then be pirated after the modification is made. > >Therefore, the one alternative is to limit piracy. In order to do that, > >strict policing of data streams is necessary. > > > > > This is a logic conclusion only if you assume that you own the flow > of data. This way we will soon be policing what other people think, > because may be they are using our thoughts without paying us for > that. The whole problem boils down to the fact that we humans > believee that when we think something we own that thought. This > wrong perspective follows from a misunderstanding of what thoughts > are. We can not own thoughts the same way that we can not own the > air of the planet. However, we have already seen many who have > profitted from selling air. This point of view (of rejecting the > property of thoughts) is as defendable as the point of view of > accepting it. And it seems to be very close to the point in a > Debian/Linux mailing list. This is free software, GPL after all. Soon? Man, that's what intellectual property is all about (very nearly, anyway). The GPL does not say that nobody owns these thoughts. It is just as much a restrictive license as other licenses, its just that the restrictions are different. Instead of saying, 'You can't pass this software on. You must buy it from the source,' it says, 'You can't buy this software from the source. If you pass it on, you must make sure that the next person has the same rights you do.' The GPL is not a fundamentally different type of document from other licenses. Intellectual property rights in fact have nothing to do with the free/non-free debate. Intellectual property rights say that someone who does something has the right to reasonable profit from it, and the right to prevent other people from profiting from it. The free/non-free debate is more about consumer rights, and what rights you get when you lay down money for software. As for comparisons between thoughts and air, I'm not quite sure where you get this from, but it seems the same sort of messed-up alternative philosophy that's ended us up in this mess. When will people learn that you can't have freedom without real justice for everyone? And that justice for everyone can't be had unless you have an absolute standard of justice? > >So that is your choice: give up freedom to modify hardware, or submit > >all data moving in and out of your control to public scrutiny. Since the > >former is both distasteful and fundamentally impossible to enforce, the > >later is inevitable, IMHO. > > > > > Absolutely not. This can be only the point of view if we see the > universe as a huge shop full of merchandise. But this is far from > the way other people perceive surrounding reality. This is the sort of stuffed-up thinking that ends up with tyranny ruling all. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "Chaos Theory is a new theory invented by scientists panicked by the thought that the public were beginning to understand the old ones." - Mike Barfield Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg05528/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Unsubscribe
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Re: Very OT: mass installation on XBox
On 0, "Jamin W. Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 6 Oct 2002 14:14:00 +0930 Tom Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Instead of saying, 'You can't pass this > > software on. You must buy it from the source,' it says, 'You can't > > buy this software from the source. If you pass it on, you must make > > sure that the next person has the same rights you do.' The GPL is not > > a fundamentally different type of document from other licenses. > > I don't recall anything in the GPL that indicates "You can't buy this > software from the source". Perhaps you should read up on the GPL at the > following link: > http://www.fsf.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html > > in particular: > http://www.fsf.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#DoesTheGPLAllowMoney I'm sorry, I don't know why I said that. I meant that you don't _have_ to buy it from the source. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide Why are Fire Engines Red? They have four wheels and eight men; four plus eight is twelve. Twelve inches make a ruler; a ruler is Queen Elizabeth. Queen Elizabeth sails the seven seas; the seven seas have fish. The fish have fins; the Finns hate the Russians. The Russians are red; fire engines are always rushin'. So they're red. Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg05657/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Lot of questions on Debian services
On 0, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi. > > I want to 'secure' one machine in such a way to avoid clear text > authentication on various services. > 1.: I want to secure FTP. Now I'm using pro-ftpd which provide SSL also. > The problem is that if you want to use SSL, you must use a special client > (ex. on Windows you can use Filezilla). Is there a way to tell pro-ftpd to > accept ONLY SSL connections?Is there any other FTP server on Debian thet support > SSL and posibly SSH > (SCP) too? sshd supports ssh and scp. I'd ditch ftp altogether. > 2.: I want to force a SFTP (SCP) session to chroot in the user home > directory. I'm usint Debian Woody. Is there any 'prepached' .deb package > of OpenSSH that support this?I checked the internet but didn't find any good tut > orial how to manualy > patch .deb packages. I played with one source .deb package, but this is > all. Is there any good howto document that describe how to applay paches > on debian source and then build a .deb package so that in near future it > can be uninstalled (I think that it should cover .deb versioning too). I don't know about this, but I think it should be a ssh configuration (PAM maybe?), not a patch for a deb. > 3.: Is there any simple way to upgrade MySQL and OpenLDAP (slapd) packages > from Woody to any packages that support SSL connection or I have to > recompile them as described in 'Second:'? I thought there were packages in non-free for OpenLDAP/ssl, but I can't find them at the moment and breakfast is burning. > 4.: I'm now using an Courier IMAP server. There are some users that > prefere to use SSH connections over Webmail to read them e-mail. I write a > simple script that prevent them to enter shell commands (they only can use > mutt and pine). Is there any package that already implement something > similar? I want to grant them the homedir browsing capability (but that > they don't have permision to go in any upper directory). I see on one > system that they use Lynx for this purpose, but I didn'd found a method to > limit fiesystem access to file://~ . And what about various limited > shells? I see that there are lshells which simplify the user resource > limiting, but is there any shell writen apositly for a limited access to > the system? Once you get the chroot thing happening this is no longer an issue. > 5.: Is there any s-key pam.d module or any similar module on Debian which > I can use to substitute a simple telnet authentication? Don't know. > 6.: I'm looking in how to implement a VPN server so that my users can > connect from the internet. I found IP-Sec (FreeSWan). Is there any better > posibility (from any aspect of view)? Is it necesary to pach the kernel > with SSL patch to get encryption and why the patch isn't a part of the > kernel (is it due to exports rights)? > 10x for any answer. Can't answer this, but I know a number of people around here use freeswan, it seems to be the way to go. Sorry I can't be of more help. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "Not to limit itself to play in a sand vat." - Google translation of, "not to be stuck in a sandbox." Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg05658/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ssh and running command
On 0, Patrick Hsieh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello list, > > I'd like to execute a certain command upon someone connect to my server > with "ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]". I will not authenticate the visitor in > the ssh session, that is, anyone can do "ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]" in > order to execute my self-defined command or shell script. Is there any > way to configure ssh to achieve this? Additionally, If the > self-defined command or shell script is pertty easy, say, > > #!/bin/sh > > export PATH=/bin:/usr/bin && \ > echo "Hello there!" && exit 0; > > > Is there also security problem? Does you need to be able to log in to the 'robot' account? If not, set the shell of this account to the script you want run and set its password to an expty string. I think ssh will then allow a passwordless login, execute that script and exit. I'd test it in a trusted environment, first, though. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "If your company is not involved in something called "ISO 9000" you probably have no idea what it is. If your company _is_ involved in ISO 9000 then you definitely have no idea what it is." - Scott Adams - The Dilbert principle Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg05668/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: network - notwork! unable to access lan and net
On 0, sandip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > subsequently, i have edited /etc/network/interfaces by hand and set the > things right - by hand! i used vi for the first time and was amazed at the > facilities it provides. all *i mean it* win editors look pale compared to vi! Come now, emacs runs on windoze... [snip] > further i wanted to know if there are any other places where i need to change > ip address my machine and gateway other than what i have already done. I don't think so, but you can always 'grep -r /etc/* ' to see what has your old IP address in its config files. [snip] > last but not the least - how do i access my lan resources? files on other pcs > and printers connected to them? in windows i can do it! apt-get install samba apt-get install cupsys cupsys-bsd The samba package contains the smbfs thingy that lets you mount/unmount samba (ie windoze) shares on your linux box, as well as stuff for printing to printers shared using samba. CUPS gives you a nice way of setting up printers and printing to them (I even figured out how to get it to print to netware printers). Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "That you're not paranoid does not mean they're not out to get you." - Robert Waldner Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg05682/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: free software version of MATLAB
On 0, Oleg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 07 October 2002 02:54 am, Musang S.X. wrote: > > Hi! I notice many students are using MATLAB at my > > school/campus, and I suspect most are pirated > > versions... > > > > Is there any free software version of MATLAB that I > > can use/suggest as an alternative? > > > > Thanks! > > Octave and SciLab. They don't really measure up to MATLAB with its really > extensive toolboxes, but they are OK for basic linear algebra. I use Octave for a lot of signal processing and control stuff as well. It covers pretty much everything they will need for an undergraduate electrical engineering course. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "This does not happen very often in Northallerton." - Siobhan Cowton, 14, of Yorkshire, after being hit by a meteorite. Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg05697/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: free software version of MATLAB
On 0, Tom Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 0, Oleg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Monday 07 October 2002 02:54 am, Musang S.X. wrote: > > > Hi! I notice many students are using MATLAB at my > > > school/campus, and I suspect most are pirated > > > versions... > > > > > > Is there any free software version of MATLAB that I > > > can use/suggest as an alternative? > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > Octave and SciLab. They don't really measure up to MATLAB with its really > > extensive toolboxes, but they are OK for basic linear algebra. > > I use Octave for a lot of signal processing and control stuff as > well. It covers pretty much everything they will need for an > undergraduate electrical engineering course. Sorry to reply to my own posts, but I just remembered that there is an academic version of MATLAB at quite a reasonable price. A few years ago our school of engineering gave all new students a copy of it, but I guess you'd have to discuss that with MathWorks. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide Classifications of inanimate objects: Those that don't work, those that break down, and those that get lost. Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg05858/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mail relay from local to internet
On 0, louie miranda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have this two mailserver's my 1(mx) connects to the internet directly. > My 2(mx) is in my local lan. I want to achieve that my 2(mx) will use 1(mx) > to > relay and sends email over the internet, recv of email is not my goal just > sending.. > > > Any info's? or ideas.. > > sendmail + exim, im using.. Sendmail + exim? Surely not... Just use exim. Set 'host_accept_relay' in exim.conf on box 1 to include box 2. Add this to the 'ROUTERS CONFIGURATION' section of exim.conf on box 2: smarthost: driver = domainlist transport = remote_smtp route_list = "* box_1.yourdomain bydns_a" end It works for me... Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "The secret of creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." - Albert Einstein Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg05909/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mail relay from local to internet
On 0, louie miranda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have this two mailserver's my 1(mx) connects to the internet directly. > My 2(mx) is in my local lan. I want to achieve that my 2(mx) will use 1(mx) > to > relay and sends email over the internet, recv of email is not my goal just > sending.. > > > Any info's? or ideas.. Oh, and start a new thread instead of replying to an existing one. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "If your company is not involved in something called "ISO 9000" you probably have no idea what it is. If your company _is_ involved in ISO 9000 then you definitely have no idea what it is." - Scott Adams - The Dilbert principle Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg05911/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: procmail "safety net"
On 0, Gerald Livingston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK -- I got courier IMAP up and running. Now, I'd like procmail to > sort and deliver to the maildir foldres I've got created. Right now I > pick up with fetchmail and it drops everything in > /var/mail/username plain old mbox style. I want procmail to do the same > thing at first so I can add recipes one at a time and get them working. > I've been through a lot of the procmail docs but haven't seen anything > that specifically says it is OK to set the default mailbox to > /var/mail/username as an mbox style file and ALSO send messages to > maildir style boxes with recipes. Is it OK to mix the two mailbox styles > and use /var/mail/username as the default "fallthrough" box? I think so... make sure you add the trailing / to the maildir names so procmail knows its a maildir mail box. If you set the DEFAULT variable in your procmail recipe then mail that isn't caught by another rule will go there. I'm not sure if you were asking about this, but the default exim install runs procmail on all of a user's mail if a .procmailrc file exists in his home directory. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "If it weren't for electricity we'd all be watching television by candlelight." - George Gobol Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg05912/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: unable to open X window on machine
On 0, David Cureton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > Firstly I must confess, I have not spent much time trying to sort this o > ne > out. However, I have the latest stable Debian installed in my machine running > KDE desktop. However I find that I am unable to cause other machines on the > network to open an X window on my machine by setting the DISPLAY variable on > the other remote machine before invoking xeyes, xclock or any other X > application. > > What I have done/tried: > > 1) Have run 'xhost + ' on X server to disable access control. > > 2) Can ssh to/from X server machine, network connectivity OK > > 3) Checked the iptables rules. (Default policy on all is ACCEPT. no other > rules except the defaults) > > 4) route output looks ok with only two entries. The local network entry and > the default route entry which appear ok. (step 2 confirms this) > > 5) if DISPLAY is set to the machines own IP address 192.168.150.150:0.0, > calling an X application fails due to 'Error: Can't open display: > 192.168.150.150:0.'. X applications only work when display is set to :0.0 on > the local machine. > > Is there some other type of access control I am overlooking?? Not really. The default is to have '-nolisten tcp' in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc (I think this is where it is - I changed it long ago). If you use a display manager then that probably is also set to use '-nolisten tcp' by default - I think that is done in /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers. Remove the '-nolisten tcp' from these locations, use xhost to allow connections from the other machines, and you should be fine. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "Beware of computer programmers that carry screwdrivers." - Leonard Brandwein Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg06293/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: gpg: checking the trustdb
On 0, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ii gnupg 1.2.0-1GNU privacy guard - a free PGP replacement. > > It happens very often that GPG decides to check the trustdb. When it's > *f-i-n-a-l-l-y* done (takes like 10 minutes or so), it says that the > next check is scheduled for e.g. 31-12-2002: > > gpg: checking the trustdb > [...] > gpg: next trustdb check due at 2002-12-31 > > And then, the next day, or half a week later, it does it all over > again? Is it lying? And your system clock is not being reset every day or so? Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "Chaos Theory is a new theory invented by scientists panicked by the thought that the public were beginning to understand the old ones." - Mike Barfield Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg06315/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mixed to stable
On 0, Sven Heinicke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have stable system where I followed the APT-HOWTO on installing stuff > from unstable. That is all well and done now and I want to make my > system all stable again. I don't remember all the packages I installed > from other versions and I don't care. I want back to all stable. > > Hopefully this answer cat be added to the APT-HOWTO, of it it is there > more clearly labeled. > > Sven Upgrade to the latest unstable apt. Put this in /etc/apt/preferences: Package: * Pin: release a=stable Pon-Priority: 1001 Package: * Pin: release a=testing Pin-Priority: 100 Package: * Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 200 Then apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade. When a distribution has a priority over 1000 then apt will downgrade packages to get to that distribution. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "A child of five could understand this. Fetch me a child of five." - Groucho Marx Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg06731/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: virus killers?
really depends on what the desired end result is. However, my point is > that just because a platform doesn't currently have a large list of > viruses targeted at it (such as in the MS sector), doesn't mean that > the end users shouldn't be prepared with a virus scanner and frequently > updated virus definitions. Well, probably it does mean that. It also means that they should never run untrusted code as root, and it means that they should avoid the root account as often as possible. > Before it's posted as a rebuttal, I'll post it here myself. I am fully > aware of, and have read opinions expressed on the following link > indicating that a virus scanner is not needed. I don't agree with all > of the points the author makes. I'm not saying that a scanner is a > mandatory item, but it is something that _should_ be considered rather > than simply dismissed. > >http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/#virus I can't read that page (it appears to be suffering something similar to slashdotting - can the debian-user list have that many readers?) but I imagine it says similar things to what I said above. I say them anyway on the offchance it is different, and to pass the time of day. > For those that believe that Linux (or other Unix variants) are > completely immune to virus infection, the following link may be of > interest: > >http://www.lwfug.org/~abartoli/virus-writing-HOWTO/_html/ This proves nothing of the sort. That a virus can be written for ELF binaries is a long way from proving that a virus can replicate sustainably on *nix platforms. -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "Beware of computer programmers that carry screwdrivers." - Leonard Brandwein Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg06776/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Starting X on second screen
On 0, Michael Heironimus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 07:52:24PM +1000, Rob Weir wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 01:36:42PM +1000, Russell wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > When using xdm, there's no where to enter > > > command line parameters to startx or initx (0:1 etc) > > > for using a second monitor, so is there an option > > > for this in .Xsession or some other file? > > > > I'm not using XDM at the moment, but GDM is controlled by files in > > /etc/X11/gdm; I imagine XDM works similarly. > > Yeah, I used to use xdm. There are several files in xdm's configuration > directory that have to do with that, there's a script to run for each > display, a file that lists the displays to start (I think xservers or > something similar), and a resource file that contains resources for > displays (both common and display-specific). Yup, the default /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers even has an example for multiple local X displays. Not sure if this is what you want for multiple screens though... How would you start multiple screens using startx? 'startx -- :0.1' doesn't work for me, but then I don't have multiple screens. If what you want is two X _servers_ running, then you need this in Xservers: :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 vt9 -bpp 16 :1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :1 vt10 -bpp 8 but that is different to multiple screens. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience. Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg07243/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Starting X on second screen
On 0, Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tom Cook wrote: > > >How would you start multiple screens using startx? 'startx -- :0.1' > >doesn't work for me, but then I don't have multiple screens. > > > > I believe this would attempt to start X on the Virtual Desktop #1 on the > first (:0) display; what you probably want is: > >startx -- :1 Not so. The :x.y notation refers to different screens connected to the same display. A 'screen' in X terminology is not a monitor but a complete input/output system (monitor, keyboard, mouse) that is controlled by the same X server. The 'x' is which X server to connect to, and the 'y' is which screen on that server to display on. I thought (rather excitedly) that :0.1 might mean virtual desktop 1, but virtual desktops are a WM illusion, nothing more. So: $ xterm -display :0.1 xterm Xt error: Can't open display: :0.1 $ xterm -display :0.0 $ Screens are different concepts to X servers and also different to multi-headed displays (I think - not sure on that). I have never seen a system with more than one screen. In this line, I have recently (this morning) discovered the joys of x2x to link two X displays. I have two p2/333s on my desk, and until today I had two keyboards and mice, too. Now I'm writing this on one display from the keyboard and mouse of the other - cool! Now I need a few more boxen... Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "Intellectual freedom is not the freedom to believe anything, but the freedom to believe only the truth." - Dr. John Stott Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg07263/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: What services are using these ports?
On 0, Marc Shapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > PortService Comments > 9discard What is this? See http://www.sockets.com/rfc863.txt - your machine allows connections on this port and throws any data sent to it to /dev/null. > 13daytime What is this? Try 'telnet localhost 13'. It tells you the day and the time and closes the connection. Probably not exploitable... > 21ftp OK Not really OK. I'd disable this and use scp instead. FTP puts your passwords on the network in plaintext. > 22unassigned Is this talkd? This is ssh. Leave it there, it is a Good Thing. > 23telnet OK Not really OK. It puts your passwords on the network in plaintext. I'd disable it and use ssh (which also provides scp). > 25smtpI dont have smtpd running and do > not plan to set up a mail server. > Is this exim listening here? Probably exim. Someone else suggested a way to make exim only listen on the local interface. I would add that it is worth not uninstalling exim, since some user agents (such as mutt) need it to transport out-going mail. > 37timeThis should stay? Try 'telnet localhost 37'. This spits the current date and time, as the numbers of seconds since 00:00 01/01/1900 GMT, as a 32-bit number. Probably not exploitable. > 79finger This is gone, already. >111sun RPC portmapper? Do I need this? Only if you're using NFS or NIS. >113authentication What is this? See http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc912.html. Try this: $ telnet localhost Username: Password: $ netstat -a | grep localhost | grep ESTABLISHED $ telnet localhost 113 3925,6000 <- You type this 3925 , 6000 : USERID : UNIX :tkcook<- Server response ^] telnet> quit $ You may have legitimate security concerns about this; it will tell you which user owns a connection without itself authenticating. Google is your friend! I found all the info above with a google search for, eg, 'authentication port 113' (although I had to go to the second page of hits for that one). All of these protocols are defined in RFCs. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup. Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg07299/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Whinge [was: (no subject)]
endly,Ill have to take a > pass,because IMO the bad outwieghs the good. If you need the pretty stuff to survive then going back to Mandrake is a good choice. Debian is not designed for the Linux newbie. It is designed for people who want a fast, lean, stable, easy to maintain system. But you don't sound like an idiot; you sound like someone who understands linux fairly well but has their priorities mixed up. When you get sick of mandrake you will be welcomed back here. And if you have problems installing, ask! This list is full of the most knowledgeable people I know. Only Google knows more than this list! People really are happy to answer questions if they are well phrased. Judging by the wars that go on, relevance to the list topic is only optional. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide When you go to the sysadmin's office in the afternoon, and all is deathly quiet, there are three possibilities: 1) Something has gone wrong, and they are all trying to fix it. 2) Something has gone badly wrong, and they have all left the country. 3) Something has gone very badly wrong, and you're missing happy hour. Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg07305/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Best plotting software?
On 0, Try KDE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm looking for such a software that takes arrays of scientific data and > spit out a gif file consisting of chart or pie picture (like what you'd > often see on a benchmark site?). Any suggestions? gnuplot. Its interface is a bit cooky, but once you figure it out it's plain sailing. I'm not sure if it can produce pngs directly, but you can certainly produce an eps that ImageMagick (or even ghostscript) can convert to just about anything. If you want a slightly nicer interface, Octave is sort of Matlab-compatible and uses gnuplot as its plotting back-end. Regards Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide Why are Fire Engines Red? They have four wheels and eight men; four plus eight is twelve. Twelve inches make a ruler; a ruler is Queen Elizabeth. Queen Elizabeth sails the seven seas; the seven seas have fish. The fish have fins; the Finns hate the Russians. The Russians are red; fire engines are always rushin'. So they're red. Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg07308/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Where are the keys defined in X-windows?
On 0, Bob Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Run the xkeycaps program. That program is a gui to help you create a > configuration file which can then be loaded with xmodmap. And which you would then automate the loading of by putting this in ~/.xsession: xmodmap Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide Why are Fire Engines Red? They have four wheels and eight men; four plus eight is twelve. Twelve inches make a ruler; a ruler is Queen Elizabeth. Queen Elizabeth sails the seven seas; the seven seas have fish. The fish have fins; the Finns hate the Russians. The Russians are red; fire engines are always rushin'. So they're red. Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg07337/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Source code
On 0, sdownes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I feel I am missing something simple here but... > > I need the source code for a few standard bits Kernel & PCMCIA bits to > compile a driver for a PCMCIA card. I would expect to find it on the > Debian site but can't. > > Can anybody tell me where it is > > (Deb Testing 2.4 kernel) apt-get install kernel-pcmcia-modules-2.4.18- You will need to be running the 2.4.18 kernel, of course. If that doesn't tickle your fancy, then you can always: apt-get source kernel-image-2.4.x-y if you have something like: deb-src ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian testing main contrib non-free deb-src ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib non-free in /etc/apt/sources.list. Note that mirror.aarnet.edu.au is only available from inside Australia, if you are elsewhere you will need to use another mirror. Regards Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "There are few things more satisfying than seeing your children have teenagers of their own." - Doug Larson Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg07338/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How to pronounce "Debian"?
On 0, will trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > all that remains is determining the 'right' sylLAble (and finding > the etymological heritage of each and every word). :) You have hit the nail right, squarely on the head here. A word's pronunciation depends entirely on its history. Since English is a horrid combination of French, middle German and Latin, with some Norse and (a little bit of) Spanish thrown in for good measure, how a word is pronounced depends entirely on which language its roots are in. The "caliope" example is in fact a bit misleading, since it is not spelt that way. The word is in fact calliope, and its pronunciation is cal-LEYE-op-ee; the extra 'l' affecting the pronunciation is a (fairly) regular pattern in English, especially in the parts derived from Latin or French (mostly from Latin anyway). I think. IANALinguist. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "There are few things more satisfying than seeing your children have teenagers of their own." - Doug Larson Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg07731/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Knoppix: Was: The *ONLY* real problem with Debian...
On 0, Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > Unless the machine is low on RAM (32MB for non-GUI mode I believe; 96 or > so for KDE mode), forcing Knoppix to use the hard drive for swap > space, the hard drives are mounted read-only in my experience. Once in, > you can remount them rw. What the... How can a swap partition be read-only? How can a disk be used as swap without overwriting (probably FAT32) partitions on the disk? Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "A child of five could understand this. Fetch me a child of five." - Groucho Marx Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg07735/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: A little daemon
On 0, Michael Heironimus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 12:12:24PM +0200, Raffaele Sandrini wrote: > > I need to have a little daemon wich runs as root and receaves commands wich > > it executes and then > > sends back the reult code of the commands. It should be very simple - no > > fancy stuff. > > I think perl might be overkill for this, unless you want to use it as a > project for learning perl sockets. You can do this with ssh or rsh > easily enough. rsh requires a ~/.rhosts entry, ssh requires either > entering a password or using RSA/DSA authentication. > > If you give ssh a command to run, ssh will return the exit code of the > remote command (at least with my OpenSSH 3.4p1 install). With rsh you'll > have to add a "; echo $?" to the remote command and read the value from > stdout. Come now, rsh is surely almost as bad as what the OP proposed... Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "If it weren't for electricity we'd all be watching television by candlelight." - George Gobol Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg08123/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian Gamers/Developers
On 0, Edward Guldemond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 06:17:55PM -0400, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > > Benedict Verheyen wrote: > > > > >>On a sidenote: java is not bad for such type of games too with the added > > >>advantage of being crossplatform. Also, a lot of games already exist with > > >>available source code. > > >>A while back i looked at game programming and studied it a bit. In java > > >>the basics that go for c++ game programming still are valid in java. > > >>For instance the need for double buffering, drawing in a memory screen > > >>dump before copying it to the screen to get faster updating and less > > >>flickering to name just one thing. > > >> > > Java really is a poor choice for Debian as the implementations of Java > > by Sun and Ibm are proprietary and aren't included in Debian. > > What about Kaffe? I haven't used it, but from what I understand, AWT is > there. Not much Swing though. Ugh, no, isn't that still a 1.1 virtual machine? The wheel has been invented since then... Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup. Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg08125/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: "sudo su" Permission denied
On 0, Bob Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Q. Gong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-10-22 00:52:10 +0200]: > > I am trying to use "sudo su -". But I always get "su: Permission denied". > > The purpose is to make su only available through sudo. Any ideas? > > What does this command output say for you? It lists the commands you > can run. Don't report anything to the list that reveals anything > sensitive about your site. Just read it yourself and make sure the > output makes sense. > > sudo -l > > Probably running 'sudo bash' or equivalent is easier than stacking su > commands. One advantage of sudo is that commands are run in your > environment and so your command line editing options are all the same > as you expect. Running 'su -' forces you to load the /root > environment which means those things are frequently different. That > is much less friendly. Yah, but personally I like the difference, it forces me to think in root mode, not user mode. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "If your company is not involved in something called "ISO 9000" you probably have no idea what it is. If your company _is_ involved in ISO 9000 then you definitely have no idea what it is." - Scott Adams - The Dilbert principle Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg08282/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Dumb terminals possible with i386 Debian
On 0, Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Suppose I wanted to set up some kiosks for web browsing, solitaire, > > >> etc (just generic users). I can envision three scenarios: > > You knownot too long ago a friend of mine (Windows SysAdmin) > showed me a really cool setup. He had Windows 2000 Server in > one town and in another town he had a conference room full of monitors > and these really little boxes (very little boxes with only monitor, keyboard, > mouse, & power jacks) that he would insert an ATM like card into and > they would show a Windows virtual desktop on all these monitors > connecting over broadband to the main server..I believe he was running > Citrix Metaframe. I have to find out about this hardware. I recall > something like "smart card". Metaframe still requires a local CPU to handle display stuff. You can't route VGA signals over ATM. > Thin client technologyisn't that what you are talking about? > > I have always wondered.why can't Linux (especially Debian Linux) > do the same thing Citrix is doing? Citrix essentially does what X does a lot less efficiently. X is pretty much the best thin client technology around. Why would you want metaframe? Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide When you go to the sysadmin's office in the afternoon, and all is deathly quiet, there are three possibilities: 1) Something has gone wrong, and they are all trying to fix it. 2) Something has gone badly wrong, and they have all left the country. 3) Something has gone very badly wrong, and you're missing happy hour. Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg08356/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: which half are you in?
On 0, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > also sprach John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.10.22.0235 +0200]: > > >You need to delete /etc completely over an SSH connection from 4000 > > >miles away, and then restore that from backup in the same SSH > > >connection to fully love UNIX ;^> > > > > > echo "pete::1210:1210:::/home/pete:/bin/bash" > /etc/passwd > > exit > > forget it. ssh won't let you in, it has no host keys. plus, the entire > mail, web, database, etc. systems are all virtually broken. I thought that was the point... even the added account has no password. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "There are few things more satisfying than seeing your children have teenagers of their own." - Doug Larson Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg08539/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Dumb terminals possible with i386 Debian
On 0, Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Metaframe still requires a local CPU to handle display stuff. You > > can't route VGA signals over ATM. > > I did not mean Asynchronous Transfer Mode.. > (not sure if you meant that either...just trying to being clear) > I meant that it was like an ATM card that you stick into this > little box that had jacks for keyboard, monitor, and mouse. > Some sort of flash card.wish I knew moresorry. > (I will find out and get back to this list) Ah, I was thinking async transfer mode. Sorry. Anyway, you still need a local CPU. > > Citrix essentially does what X does a lot less efficiently. X is > > pretty much the best thin client technology around. Why would you > > want metaframe? > > I don't know really you tell me. (please) I can't imagine many reasons, unless you wanted a 'doze connection as well, in which case metaframe and VNC both do pretty well. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide Classifications of inanimate objects: Those that don't work, those that break down, and those that get lost. Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg08552/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Dumb terminals possible with i386 Debian
On 0, Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > Thin client boxes are attractive since one does not have to deal with > old hardware, failing memory, flaky video cards, hard drives, etc > > I want to build a Debian server and be able to serve 50-100 thin clients over > a 100Mbps LAN. I can build the server but I am at a loss on how to get a > thin client running this way. > > Anyone doing this with Debian? Sorry, but you're always gonna need memory and a video card. So this is the sort of thing you want: A bunch of monitors, keyboards and mice that look like systems but do not have disks. Everything is run on the server. The way to acheive this with Debian is: * Set up a root filesystem that boots, starts XDM, using XDMCP to pop up a login screen that logs the user in on the server. * Set up your terminals to network boot from that root filesystem. That's about it, really. These boxes need no other services running. Pretty much all you need is a kernel and X. Nobody needs to be able to login on the terminals, not even root. All logins will be on the server, and all system maintenance can be done on the server. Each box will probably need to be at least a 30MHz 486 with 8Mb RAM. There are good HOWTOs on this that someone else has posted links to. It is worth noting that it takes a *beefy* server to run 100 instances of, say, netscape. Our computer science department used to have a bunch of old monochrome X-servers that worked in this way. When they installed netscape they found that more than about 30 students using it caused the server to grind to a muddy, messy halt. Another option our engineering faculty uses is to have a bunch of PIIs that are capable of running the applications themselves, but that mount most of their filesystems off a server. This decentralises the processing power requirements, but doesn't sound like what you want. If you want to keep desktops open between sessions you could probably hack up a login-like interface to VNC. It will support multiple users on the server, and will hold on to sessions between connections. But as cool as this is, I don't think its a good idea; if you have 1000 users and 100 terminals then you now need to be able to keep 1000 instances of the applications open, even if most of them are swapped to disk, even if they are not being used at the time. 1000 instances of netscape can easily chew 50 Gb of memory, especially with a java plugin. You will need lots of memory and a *very* large swap partition. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "The secret of creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." - Albert Einstein Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg08554/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Java Programming Environment
On 0, Robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > Call me weird, but I have a current preference for twin. It's an > ncurses window manager, in which I have one window running vim, and > another where I run `make`. Of course, I have to switch to X to test > anything graphics wise. vim does color code for me, and I could run > \[[:make, if I wanted to. You are wierd. I use a similar philosophy, even if my tools aren't *quite* so arcane. I have emacs/jde sitting on one virtual desktop, with the speedbar open, a terminal where I run make on another (if I get really keen I get emacs to run make, jikes to spit out emacs-compatible errors and then I can jump direct to errors, but its usually not worth it), and a third terminal on another where I run the thing. It works... Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup. Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg08567/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: aptitude works as root, not with sudo
On 0, Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > I get something similar running > > $ sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade > > The update works fine, but the upgrade gets this: > > > Fetched 2287kB in 13s (172kB/s) > > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied) > E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? That would be because your shell is dividing the line: sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade into two commands: sudo apt-get update apt-get upgrade Shell parsing happens before the command is executed! You could do this: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade but then you might get prompted for your password twice. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience. Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg08587/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Partition Resizing/Re-arranging
On 0, Alex Malinovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > Now, as for recommendations, here are mine. For starters, quit using > /usr/local. I prefer to have all of my users (myself included) store ALL > of their personal files within their home directory. This makes managing > it all much easier. Just my suggestions. Good luck. :) Eh? I thought /usr/local was for system-wide software that didn't come as a .deb... Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "The secret of creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." - Albert Einstein Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg08635/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Partition Resizing/Re-arranging
On 0, Alex Malinovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > > could I move the /usr/local to /usr -- mv /usr/local /usr/ > > and as for var, can I do the same thing. > > Yup. I dunno, something there just doesn't smell quite right. I'd do something like this: $ umount /usr/local $ mkdir /mnt/temp $ mount -t ext2 /dev/hda? /mnt/temp # /dev/hda? is whatever partition /usr/local is on $ cp -rp /mnt/temp/* /usr/local $ umount /mnt/temp $ rmdir /mnt/temp Trying to copy the contents of a partition to mount point of that partition seems fraught with possibilities for disaster, to me. Do something similar for /var, then you can delete those partitions and restructure them as you wish. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "Chaos Theory is a new theory invented by scientists panicked by the thought that the public were beginning to understand the old ones." - Mike Barfield Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg08647/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
x2vnc + Ctrl-Alt-Del
Hi guys, I've now got both x2x and x2vnc happening, 3 monitors on my desk and only one kb/mouse is very cool. There is something I'm not quite game to try though. If my mouse is currently on the NT box, and I hit Ctrl+Alt+Del, will that be transmitted to the NT box? Or will it reboot my linux box? I'd like to know before I try it. It'd be groovy if it did transmit it, because then I could set up VNC as a service on NT and hide the keyboard and mouse somewhere, instead of having to start VNC manually. Of course I can do that anyway, but if the three fingered salute is not transmitted then I can't log in :-( Thanks Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide When you go to the sysadmin's office in the afternoon, and all is deathly quiet, there are three possibilities: 1) Something has gone wrong, and they are all trying to fix it. 2) Something has gone badly wrong, and they have all left the country. 3) Something has gone very badly wrong, and you're missing happy hour. Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg08649/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian, too easy?
On 0, Leo Spalteholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just thought of something while setting up port forwarding on my > server > First I searched google on how to do something like that and came > across a howto. I figured thats great and tried to work through it > but it was pretty technical and I didn't really have a clue what I > was doing. Then I figured there must be some magic debian script > that will set it up for me and sure enough, ipmasq does exactly what > I want, no knowledge required. > > This is all great and thats the main reason I use debian but am I > actually learning anything? I've been running debian on my desktop > and server for over a year now and know how to configure it quite > well but I still dont really feel I know linux. There are so many > debian tools that automagically take care of system administration > that I think I would be lost without them. While I wouldnt want to > give all this up I also wouldn't want to find that what I know about > linux is totally useless for any distro other than debian. > > I really dont have much experience with other linux distros so maybe > its not that different but it feels like I'm in a pretty > debian-specific world. > > What do you think, could I get away with putting Linux on my resume or > is my debian experience too limited? Come on, surely this is some sort of 'troll in reverse'? This list has been flamed plenty of times complaining that debian is too hard, too low level, too unfriendly, but I've *never* seen someone complain that its too easy... My feeling is that if you know debian then you'll figure out other distros pretty quickly (and probably figure out how much you want your debian back, but that's another story). Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide Classifications of inanimate objects: Those that don't work, those that break down, and those that get lost. Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg08655/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: x2vnc + Ctrl-Alt-Del
On 0, Alex Malinovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2002-10-24 at 04:33, Tom Cook wrote: > > > There is something I'm not quite game to try though. If my mouse is > > currently on the NT box, and I hit Ctrl+Alt+Del, will that be > > transmitted to the NT box? Or will it reboot my linux box? I'd like > > to know before I try it. It'd be groovy if it did transmit it, > > because then I could set up VNC as a service on NT and hide the > > keyboard and mouse somewhere, instead of having to start VNC > > manually. Of course I can do that anyway, but if the three fingered > > salute is not transmitted then I can't log in :-( > > Not sure if there are any differences with x2x or x2vnc, but using > xvncviewer Ctrl-Alt-Del gets transmitted directly with no adverse > effects on the local system. If still in doubt, wait until 4:30 am local > time (like where I'm at right now :) and push the buttons and see what > happens. :) Cool! It works! Your reply gave me courage to try it... Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience. Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg08834/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: x2vnc + Ctrl-Alt-Del
On 0, "Joyce, Matthew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just do it, if it NT it will give you a 'lock workstation' dialog bog, which > you can cancel. Yah, but if it's not transmitted by x2vnc it will reboot my linux box, not a good move at present. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "If it weren't for electricity we'd all be watching television by candlelight." - George Gobol Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg08903/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: nfs server newbie question
On 0, Kevin Coyner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Within a small SOHO LAN I'd like to serve up my /home directory from > one particular box with basic install of Debian 3.0 on it. > > Aside from my making the following entry into a /etc/exports file ... > > /home/myhomedirectory 192.168.1.0/24(rw) > > what else needs to be done? > > lsmod shows that 'nfs' and 'nfsd' are both there but unused. > > dpkg -l |grep nfs shows 'nfs-common' only. Do I need 'nfs-kernel-server' > too in order for this to work? Or is 'nfs-common' sufficient? > > If I 'ps -ef|more' and look through the entries, I can see portmap but > no nfsd. But if I look in /etc/rc2.d I can see an entry of > 'S21nfs-common' although nowhere do I see an entry of 'S??nfsd'. Is > that what's needed? You need either nfs-kernel-server or nfs-server. I use nfs-server, but I'm not sure why I chose that, and I think I'll change to the kernel server before too long. After that, there shouldn't be anything else you need to reconfigure. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide Never be irreplacable: If you are irreplacable then you are unpromotable. Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg09562/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: video card help
On 0, nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ian said: > > > Section "InputDevice" > > Identifier "Configured Mouse" > > Driver "mouse" > > Option "CorePointer" > > Option "Device""/dev/psaux" > > Option "Protocol" "PS/2" > > Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true" > > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" > > EndSection > > do you have a PS2 mouse connected to /dev/psaux? > > > > Section "InputDevice" > > Identifier "Generic Mouse" > > Driver "mouse" > > Option "SendCoreEvents""true" > > Option "Device""/dev/input/mice" Option > > "Protocol" "ImPS/2" > > Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true" > > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" > > EndSection > > Is there a particular reason you have 2 pointers setup? just > curious, I do this on my laptops and on my main desktop because > my KVM is erratic in supporting wheel mice .. Just this monring I set up X 4.1.0-16 on a woody box that had been downgraded from unstable and had only had X 3.3.6 running previously and noticed that this was the default behaviour of debconf when setting up the mouse. It also had both mouse devices in the ServerLayout section, which caused hassles until I modified it by hand. Is this a bug? Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "Intellectual freedom is not the freedom to believe anything, but the freedom to believe only the truth." - Dr. John Stott Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg09593/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: java 1.3 and glibc 2.3.1
On 0, Gottfried Szing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Craig Dickson wrote: > > >I don't know what PSE Pro is; does it really work only on 1.3? You can't > >use 1.4.1? What I've done for a few things is use 1.4.1 with the > >j2ee.jar from 1.3 (since AFAIK there is still no jdk1.4-ee). I haven't > >found this to cause any problems. > > > > > > i have the same problem. but not with the pse pro, but with the bea > weblogic which > runs only with a jdk 1.3.1. ok, a jdk 1.2 is also working, but the > performance is very > poor. for this reason i cannot run weblogic with debian. > > is there no real solution for this problem? sth like chroot-ing, adding > an additional > library? Ermmm... read the rest of the thread. The OP posted a solution. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "If your company is not involved in something called "ISO 9000" you probably have no idea what it is. If your company _is_ involved in ISO 9000 then you definitely have no idea what it is." - Scott Adams - The Dilbert principle Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg09980/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: any suggestions on mail client?
sandip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > > There is no custom fields in Mutt's address book (aliases). But Mutt > > can query external address books. > > any specific applications that you suggest? I use a script I wrote myself to grok through our university's LDAP tree for usernames. It's not quite completion-as-you-type (you need to hit ^T and it gives you a list) but it's close. I won't send you my script because it is rather badly written and slow. One day I will rewrite it in PERL or something, but until then... Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide Why are Fire Engines Red? They have four wheels and eight men; four plus eight is twelve. Twelve inches make a ruler; a ruler is Queen Elizabeth. Queen Elizabeth sails the seven seas; the seven seas have fish. The fish have fins; the Finns hate the Russians. The Russians are red; fire engines are always rushin'. So they're red. Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg10167/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: for tecnical linux users
On 0, David Pastern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > messmate said on 30 October 2002 7:52 PM > > >Hi experts, > >I have a little pb with un update I made of my BIOS. > >Bios is a AWARD and did a flash update, after that I get always the error : > > > >'Keyboard error or keyboard not connected'. > > > >When looking at the site of award (phoenix) the say : > >'Look that a key is not pressed or connect the keybord' > > > >But : > >1. a key is not pressed > >2. the keyboard is connected. (tryed it with different keybords) > > > >Of course any boot is impossble and doing a 'del' to setup the bios didn't > help. > > > >I think the only solution is to replace the eeprom but he is SOLDERED :-( > > > >Is there any other solution ?? > > Messmate, i'd suggest re-flashing the bios again. Make sure you follow the > flashing instructions exactly. The only other thing I can think of is a > damaged bios chip (if it's soldered into the motherboard it's a pretty > crappy motherboard - it should be removable). Hope this helps. I think the point is that he can't boot anymore, so can't flash the bios. Can you get to the BIOS setup screen? If so then most BIOSes have a way to disable the keyboard check. You might be able to boot then. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide When you go to the sysadmin's office in the afternoon, and all is deathly quiet, there are three possibilities: 1) Something has gone wrong, and they are all trying to fix it. 2) Something has gone badly wrong, and they have all left the country. 3) Something has gone very badly wrong, and you're missing happy hour. Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg10168/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: blank LCD monitor
On 0, "Joyce, Matthew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After it has booted, and gone blank, can you disconnect it and connet a crt > monitor ? > Unless yuo are uing a dvi connecter I suppose. Wow, man, that response got here before the question did ;-) > > I just bought a Proview model 780 17" LCD monitor and can't > > get it working > > with Woody. It goes blank durning boot and the messages go > > by so fast that I > > can't tell if it is happenning durning the Kernel > > initialization or at the > > start of the system initialization. I'm running the > > 2.2.20-compact Kernel and > > am just booting into console mode. > > > > Any suggestion? Get a network connection to the machine and see what's in syslog and dmesg. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "Other people's priorities are endlessly odd." - Kingsley Amis Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg10170/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: apt help
On 0, Amit Shah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm working with apt and have a few queries: > > 1. I've copied the first 3 woody disks on my hard disk in > /var/cache/apt/cds/[123]. > > I want apt to recognize these sources as the primary installation sources. I > made changes in /etc/apt/sources.list, saying: > > deb file:/var/cache/apt/cds/1/cdrom/dists potato unstable contrib main > non-US/contrib non-US/main > > deb file:/var/cache/apt/cds/2/cdrom/dists potato unstable contrib main > non-US/contrib non-US/main > > deb file:/var/cache/apt/cds/3/cdrom/dists potato unstable contrib main > non-US/contrib non-US/main > > this, however, doesn't work... it gives lots of error messages while > installing anything, couldn't stat, etc.. I'm not 100% certain on how to do this, but I think you should look into apt-move. > 2. I want to install kde-3.0.4, or whichever >3 version is available. how do > I go about doing this? I just have an entry for security.debian.org in my > sources.list. do I have to add more? Yah, I thought kde3 was only in unstable at present, but I can't even find it there at the moment. In fact I can't find an apt-gettable archive anywhere, but there is an almost apt-gettable archive at: http://ftp.du.se/pub/mirrors/kde/stable/latest/Debian/woody/ It has a packages.gz, but its directory structure looks wrong to me. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "Intellectual freedom is not the freedom to believe anything, but the freedom to believe only the truth." - Dr. John Stott Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg10180/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: add users
On 0, Shyamal Prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Rob" == Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Rob> On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 02:04:48PM +0200, dizma wrote: > >> I've just finished with the new machine configuration. I there > >> a simple way to move the existing user from the old machine to > >> the new one? > > Rob> You could cut'n'paste their entry from /etc/passwd and > Rob> /etc/group, or you could just use 'adduser ' to > Rob> create a new one. > > This will work unless you picked shadow password support and/or MD5 > hash and your old system did not support one or both of these. > > You best bet is to use adduser if this is the case as Rob suggests. Probably best to make sure you give them the same uids, too. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide When you go to the sysadmin's office in the afternoon, and all is deathly quiet, there are three possibilities: 1) Something has gone wrong, and they are all trying to fix it. 2) Something has gone badly wrong, and they have all left the country. 3) Something has gone very badly wrong, and you're missing happy hour. Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg10302/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: bc
On 0, Oleg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK I would like to know how this monstrosity made it into Debian Stable: > > $ whatis bc > bc (1) - An arbitrary precision calculator language > $ bc > bc 1.06 > Copyright 1991-1994, 1997, 1998, 2000 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > This is free software with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. > For details type `warranty'. > 6.2/0.3 > 20 > > I have looked into the man page, and nothing there indicates this kind of > nonsense. I hereby propose renaming the package into "a calculator with a > very arbitrary precision" I think what you mean is 'a calculator with a very fixed precision.' You are just restating the whatis description. ;-) Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "This does not happen very often in Northallerton." - Siobhan Cowton, 14, of Yorkshire, after being hit by a meteorite. Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg10303/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: public lending right
On 0, Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 06 Nov 2002 17:52:33 -0600, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >I don't see why a public library even in the UK couldn't lend non-free. > >How would it differ from lending out a non-free book (i.e., the usual > >kind)? > > Huh? Do you have to pay to get a book out of a library in the US then? > In the UK you pay nothing, unless you keep it beyond a time limit; > then you pay a fine, which is a punishment, not a fee for the book. In > other words, UK libraries don't lend non-free books. Nonononono, free as in speech, not free as in beer. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "My advice to you is to get married: If you find a good wife, you will be happy; if not, you will become a philosopher." - Socrates Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg11445/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: RFC: Caps Lock
On 0, Thorsten Haude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I want to get my caps lock key a new purpose (because I absolutely > despise the current one) and want to hear your opinion about it. > > There are several options: > - a second ctrl key > - make a Modn key from the OS key, another Modn key from caps lock > - make the same Modn key form OS key and caps lock > > So what are your thoughts about this? Is there another good use I > could put caps lock to? Experiences? My pinky has loved me ever since I used a Sun keyboard and got used to it, and then figured out how to make X treat Caps-Lock as a control. Putting this in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 will do it: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Generic Keyboard" Driver "keyboard" Option "CoreKeyboard" Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" Option "XkbModel" "pc104" Option "XkbLayout" "us" Option "XkbOptions""ctrl:swapcaps,alt:altismeta" EndSection or putting this in ~/.xmodmap: remove Lock = Caps_Lock remove Control = Control_L keysym Control_L = Caps_Lock keysym Caps_Lock = Control_L add Lock = Caps_Lock add Control = Control_L and using it with this command: xmodmap ~/.xmodmap Some of the other suggestions have been quite inventive, though, I thought. Regards Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup. Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg12411/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Sorry
On 0, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] > I tried removing some packages of kde that I don't want on my > system. like kab and karm. However dpkg --purge tells me that there is daa > dependency problem. apt-get remove kab shows that it is removing kde > too.daapt-cache kde shows that it is a meta package containing > dependencies.I can't quite figure out why kab and karm that are invidual > applications should have some other metapackage depending on it.I guess I > can force the removal but I don't want to break my system.I would > appreciate some suggestions on this. The kde package is NOT kde, it is a metapackage that installs kde plus a lot of kde apps. So if you want to uninstall kab and karm then you will also need to uninstall the kde metapackage. This will NOT uninstall the kde window manager. That is in packages like kdebase and kdelibs3-bin. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "Not to limit itself to play in a sand vat." - Google translation of, "not to be stuck in a sandbox." Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg13822/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: downgrading libc6 ?
On 0, nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Frisurf said: > > A question for a friend of mine: is it possible to downgrade libc6. he > > upgraded libc6 on his stable machine using the unstable's version. He > > encountered some problems trying to downgrade (installing the former > > .deb). A conflict with libdb1-compat . > > > > I read in an old forum (August 2001) that downgrading libc6 is not > > supported. Is that true? > > if libc6 is the ONLY thing he installed it may be possible to force > downgrade. one of my friends installed the unstable of libc6 version > on a potato system about 8 months ago because he thought he could do > this to run the new mailman. of course many things broke. I was able > to manually download and install the potato version of libc6 on his > system with dpkg -i --force-depends --force-overwrite(i think thats > it) and the system didn't flinch, no problems after that until the > 2 disks failed 3-4 months later. > > I would backup any data you really want if possible before attempting > this, technically I don't think its supported, but it is possible at > least in my experience. I've successfully downgraded a whole system from unstable to stable by setting the pin-priority of stable over 1000 in /etc/apt/preferences and using apt-get dist-upgrade. Shouldn't this sort of thing work to downgrade any unstable packages on the system? Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "Chaos Theory is a new theory invented by scientists panicked by the thought that the public were beginning to understand the old ones." - Mike Barfield Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg13831/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Converting MS Word to postscript
On 0, sdownes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Set up Apple lazerwriter print to file has worked perfectly for me since I > was recommended to it as the best "straight" ps printer driver. Or OpenOffice has a 'Print to PS' and 'Print to PDF' option. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "My advice to you is to get married: If you find a good wife, you will be happy; if not, you will become a philosopher." - Socrates Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg14508/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 2^n (was: weird g++ behavior)
On 0, Michael Heironimus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you have time it might be to your advantage to go ahead and run a > real memory test. If one of those modules does have a problem you'd be > better off finding out now instead of later when it causes some other > strange problem. If you can't run a real memory test some people suggest > recompiling the kernel 10-20 times without interruption, the kernel code > is complex enough that it sometimes causes errors where other code > doesn't. apt-get install memtest86 Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide Why are Fire Engines Red? They have four wheels and eight men; four plus eight is twelve. Twelve inches make a ruler; a ruler is Queen Elizabeth. Queen Elizabeth sails the seven seas; the seven seas have fish. The fish have fins; the Finns hate the Russians. The Russians are red; fire engines are always rushin'. So they're red. Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg14763/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [OT] latex, pdflatex and graphics formats
On 0, J?rg Johannes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi everybody
>
> For my documents, I have to use both LaTeX and pdfLaTeX. The problem I
> have is, pdflatex does not (at least per default) understand .eps and
> .ps files. So I have to convert my .eps figures from gnuplot into .png
> for pdflatex in order to use them. The other way round, "normal" LaTeX
> does not understand the .png format, so any photos or scanned-in images
> have to be converted into .ps. My question now is: Are there any
> \usepackage{s} for making use of .ps in pdflatex and .png in LaTeX?
> Anything better than
> for i in *.eps; do convert $i `echo $i | sed s/.eps/.png/`
> ?
There is a script around called tex2pdf that I use that does it all
for you. It converts your eps and ps docs to epdf and pdf and then
runs pdflatex for you, cleans things up and everything, even generates
bookmark lists from your table of contents. Can't remember where I
found it, but I used google, so you can probable find it there too.
Regards
Tom
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Re: Viewing .pdf attachments in mutt.[Fixed]
On 0, Russ Pitman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To those who replied .Many Thanks,you stirred the mud betwwen my ears:-)) > > The attachment was telling mutt it was an 'application octet-stream'. > > Adding a line > > application/octet-stream; /usr/bin/acroread '%s' etc etc > > in /etc/mailcap worked fine That's a little dangerous, isn't it? application/octet-stream can be almost anything non-ASCII. It sounds like your suppliers are using a broken mailer. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "Intellectual freedom is not the freedom to believe anything, but the freedom to believe only the truth." - Dr. John Stott Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg00460/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How to know the configuration of kernel
On 0, Jsahambi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there any method to know what modules are compiled into the kernel on > the Debian machine. > > I can reframe the question: If I install the kernel-sourse and run "make > xconfig", how do i load the configuration of the existing kernel, so > that I can know what modules are compiled into the kernel and baased on > that I can add more if I want. When you install a kernel package (such as in a default install) the config file is written to /boot/config-x.x.x where x.x.x is the kernel version. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "Not to limit itself to play in a sand vat." - Google translation of, "not to be stuck in a sandbox." Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg00962/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mutt's reply-all
On 0, Oki DZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > How do you do reply-all in Mutt? In my mutt it is bound to 'g', which I believe is the default. Stands for 'reply Group'. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "The secret of creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." - Albert Einstein Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg00964/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: gcc version issues
On 0, Gib Bogle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My Debian system is 2.4.18, which was built with gcc 2.95.4. I want to > compile some software which apparently requires gcc 2.96 or later. What > should I do? My first thought was simply to install a later version of > gcc, but it occurs to me that this could create problems for me later, > for example if I wanted to rebuild the kernel. Surely gcc2.96.x (or whatever) is just as capable of compiling kernels as is gcc2.95.4? You might want to recompile from scratch, so that the entire binary is built with 2.96.x. My kernel is a stock debian kernal compiled with I don't know which gcc, but it doesn't stop me from compiling kernels with whatever gcc I have installed. Or have I missed the point of your question? Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "A child of five could understand this. Fetch me a child of five." - Groucho Marx Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg01328/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Installing new kernel
On 0, "J.S.Sahambi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Currently I have kernel 2.4.18-bf2.4. If I install the new kernel image > with the command: > > apt-get install kernel-image-2.2.20-udma100-ext3 ,(As I have ext3 file > systems on my system, I think this is the correct kernel:|) > > 1) will it install the kernel in a saparate dir and not mess up the dir > of older kernel? Yes. The only possible problem will be if your /boot partition is not large enough. > 2) will it add one more item inthe lilo for the new kernel and so that > In can select the older kernel at boot time, in case I want? I don't think so; I think debconf will ask you if you want a *new* lilo.conf written. I think it will create a backup of your old one, and you should be able to piece together a full lilo.conf from the new and the old one. > 3) and will I be able to remove this new kerenl in case I want and still > have the older kernel on the system. The older kernel will be left on your system. BTW I recommend grub if you have the time to work it out - it lets you boot an arbitrary kernel. As someone else has pointed out, the downgrade from 2.4.18 to 2.2.20 does not appear to make sense. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "My advice to you is to get married: If you find a good wife, you will be happy; if not, you will become a philosopher." - Socrates Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg01534/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Whatever happened to "Unidentified Subject!"
On 0, Nick Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > * Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020910 14:51]: > > Paul Johnson wrote > > > Whatever happened to Unidentified Subject lines that DU used to add to > > > a blank subject line? If they're not coming back, how do you get > > > procmail to filter against an empty subject line? > > > > You don't. From my .procmailrc: > > > > > > :0: > > * ^X-Mailing-List.*debian-user > > debian-user > > True, this works very well. > > However, Baloo asks an interesting question. It would be nice to send > emails with no subject to /dev/null. Anyone got a procmail rule for > finding empty headers? Haven't tried it, but shouldn't: :0: * ^Subject:[\ ]*$ /dev/null do it? Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "Other people's priorities are endlessly odd." - Kingsley Amis Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg01541/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Why mailing-lists? Usenet have been invented, I hear. ;-)
On 0, Josh Rehman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Jerry Gaiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > This is the third time I've subscribed to debian-user. Each time I > leave > > in disgust because of the attitude of a few posters. Debian is *not* > the > > easiest distribution to install, but some of you folks are not helping > > your cause. > > I agree with Jerry. Consider that as a new user of this list, I began > with a post asking about ext3. I found the responses to be overall very > helpful, although at first rather terse. Encouraged, I responded to a > thread about the structure of the list itself, namely the use of > reply-to headers. Instead of responding materially to my points, one > poster, for example, made mention of my use of Outlook as a mail client, > apparently attempted to embarrass or attack me. This is, of course, a > variation of ad hominem. This argument is so common and recognizable in > the computing field it can be given a special name, let us call it the > 'ad technium' fallacy. > > The 'ad technium' fallacy is that the technology that one *uses* implies > something about the correctness of their argument. So when someone > attacks a user of this list for using Outlook (e.g., me) they are not > considering that that person might not want to be using outlook, and, in > fact, are using this list in order to stop using Outlook. (But not all > criticism of technology usage is 'argumentum ad technium', especially in > advocacy debates.) I suspect that I am the poster who made comment about your use of Outlook (I certainly made comment on *someone's* use of outlook in that thread, so it was probably you). The comment was not supposed to "embarrass or attack" you, it was a comment on a specific feature missing in Outlook. My argument boiled down to 'you can't do that because your mailer is broken, not because the list is configured wrong.' How am I supposed to make such an argument without commenting on which mailer you use? > Despite this, I have stayed on to read, and for each arrogant, petty and > bullying user of this list (perhaps tolerated because of some small > sliver of actual knowledge), there are many more kind, courteous and > patient experts (revered not only for great knowledge but also for just > being Good People) more than happy to pass on some of the enormous and > intricate wisdom of the field. > > To those especially who consistently use 'argumentum ad technium' to > bolster ego and effect an elitist posture, I say , ha! You just don't > get it! This is a forum that admires reason and correctness, the > ultimate antithesis of the logical fallacy you employ with such > sophomoric glee. I don't think I use such arguments frequently, and in the instance you have quoted I think it is unfair to accuse me of it. I agree with you that such 'logic' is pretty pointless, but please actually understand an argument before you label it 'argumentum ad technium'. > Good day, > Josh Rehman, Linux Guru Wannabe (LGW) > > P.S. If any Latin speakers out there could help me come up with a better > name for "argument from technological elitism" that would be great. I know but one jot of Latin, so can't help, sorry. An FM can be found here: http://www.nd.edu/~archives/latgramm.htm but I suspect this will not tell you more than you know already. I can't find a babelfish that supports Latin... Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide Classifications of inanimate objects: Those that don't work, those that break down, and those that get lost. Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg01550/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: I Can t Unsubscribe
On 0, "Mark L. Kahnt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2002-09-09 at 13:44, Ezequiel Franca Santos/SAO/Geo wrote: > > Hi Guys !! > > I ´m trying to unsubscribe since 1 week ago, but i´m not succeed in doing. > > > > Why ??? > > > > i send the messages to the unsubscribe, but don´t worked ... > > > > i try a few times, but i the messages still come in !!1 > > > > > > sorry for my poor english ! > > > > > > Ezequiel > > Debian User > > São Paulo - Brazil > > Are you sending your "unsubscribe" emails to the list posting address > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), or to the list control address > ([EMAIL PROTECTED])? As indicated in the automatic > trailer of list posts, you need to use the control address to > unsubscribe. Also, are you subscribed to the digest list? If so then the unsubscribe instructions are a bit unhelpful - you need to unsubscribe at [EMAIL PROTECTED], IIRC. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "Other people's priorities are endlessly odd." - Kingsley Amis Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg01551/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Controlling the list?
On 0, Claudio Bley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2002-09-10 at 17:28, Dennis Wicks wrote: > > Greetings; > > > > How do I get a list of commands for this list server? > > It seems to be a rather simple list server (actually, it's driven by > SmartList which is based on procmail). Try to send a message with a body > of "help" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you'll get back a summary of > available commands. Huh? I thought it was mailman... Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "The secret of creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." - Albert Einstein Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg01704/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: helo
On 0, Stefan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a problem with my lq100 I`m using windows 2000 and i have > problems printing the self test printes ok but when I try to print > enything in windows it apears with a space the letters are broken > with a white space between A troll, surely? Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "The secret of creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." - Albert Einstein Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg01705/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Controlling the list?
On 0, Patrick Wiseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 11 Sep 2002, Tom Cook wrote: > > > Huh? I thought it was mailman... > > Nope, it's SmartList. According to http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/: > > "All original Debian mailing lists are run on a special server, using an > automatic mail processing software called SmartList." There you have it. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "Intellectual freedom is not the freedom to believe anything, but the freedom to believe only the truth." - Dr. John Stott Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg01752/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: debian hints server, a debian quote of the day that gives help?
On 0, Walter Tautz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > just curious if such a beast could be created or exists already. People could > subscribe to it or perhaps it could be a packages on their local system that > would periodically mail them little hints on how better to use a particular > piece of software. Are we talking the Debian Assistant? No thanks... ;-) Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "There are few things more satisfying than seeing your children have teenagers of their own." - Doug Larson Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg02078/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: debian hints server, a debian quote of the day that gives help?
On 0, Walter Tautz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > just curious if such a beast could be created or exists already. People could > subscribe to it or perhaps it could be a packages on their local system that > would periodically mail them little hints on how better to use a particular > piece of software. On a more helpful note, if you have a collection of helpful hints then a simple connection of Signify, Cron and Mailman will give you what you want. Set up the signify configuration file, use cron to mail a quote from it each week or whatever, and make the destination a mailman mailing list. Each of these has fairly good doco available. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "Chaos Theory is a new theory invented by scientists panicked by the thought that the public were beginning to understand the old ones." - Mike Barfield Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg02079/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mouse Problems On Install
Please start a new thread instead of replying to an existing one. On 0, Michael Burke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > The mouse is a LogiTech model with only 2 buttons. I have seen several > references to pull-down menus used to select the mouse type, but I have > failed to find any of these. So the required driver is probably logitech. > In my research I have found many references to mouse/pointer configuration > problems. One test that was suggested was to test the hardware from a > console window. A "cat /dev/ttyS0" did nothing as I moved the mouse. A "cat > /dev/psaux" echoed characters on the screen in reaction to mouse movements. > I assumed that meant the hardware was working an the correct device is > /dev/psaux. So it's a ps2 mouse. > Several people have mentioned in other helpful posts that the file > XF86Config-4 needs to be changed. Currently, the configuration is as > follows: > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Configured Mouse" > Driver "mouse" > Option "CorePointer" > Option "Device""/dev/psaux" > Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2" ^^ This setting is probably causing you grief. You need either 'PS/2' or 'Logitech' (I think that is the name of the logitech driver, someone correct me if I'm wrong). Try these settings and see if that helps. > Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true" > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Generic Mouse" > Driver "mouse" > Option "SendCoreEvents""true" > # Option "Device""/dev/input/mice" > Option "Device""/dev/psaux" > Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2" > Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true" > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" > EndSection [snip] > Several people have indicated that the solution for a problem like mine is > to be had via: > > "make your mouse device in XF86Config-4 /dev/gpmdata, and in /etc/gpm.conf > make sure that repeat_type=raw" > > This is all very well, except, I have no idea what gpm is or where to find > it. I do have gDm running and I have even created a file /etc/gdm.conf but > that does not solve my problem. There is no process called gpm running on > the system, although there is a process called gdm. GPM is the console mouse driver. If you want to be able to use a mouse on the console, then you need to have it running. If you do not, then you don't. It's probably better to not have it running if you don't use it. GDM and GPM are completely different things; GDM is the Gnome Display Manager - it is what presents you with a spiffy login screen instead of the boring old console one. When people say /etc/gpm.conf they mean /etc/gpm.conf, not /etc/gdm.conf. Anyway, its sounds like: * You have a logitech PS/2 mouse. * You don't have or need GPM running. * You should try fiddling with the Protocol setting in XF86Config-4 to see if you can find one that works with your mouse. There are lists of valid settings on the web, but I don't have a browser handy just now to find one. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "That you're not paranoid does not mean they're not out to get you." - Robert Waldner Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg02166/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 'ping -f' a Win98 box (was: Re: Collisions on lan using Linux versus Windows)
On 0, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > I have been following the thread with interest. I decided to do a test my > LAN here while my bride was playing a game on her computer. I started a ping > - -f session on her box with my Linux laptop, then started another one from my > Linux desktop box. I didn't realize it would hamper her computer, but the > computer actually stopped responding to her simple Mahjongg game! Her box is > a 550MHz AMD k6 with 256Mb of RAM. It really seems odd. I can do the same > thing to the old Linux gateway/firewall p75 with 32Mb RAM without any > noticeable slow down. > > Guess it's time to try it on a win-xp box. . . . Yeah, we used to do this to other boxes on our residential college network. For some reason win9x (don't know about NT/2000 etc) can't handle a ping flood and just slows down until the thing stops responding. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide Classifications of inanimate objects: Those that don't work, those that break down, and those that get lost. Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg02177/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 10 based eepro acting weird
Danie, I had this problem at one stage. It was an on-board eepro chipset that was also suspected of causing a bunch of other problems at the time. I ended up with a new card, but the other problems turned out to be dodgy RAM. I don't know if the problems were related (in fact it sounds pretty unlikely), but it can't hurt to run memtest86 over it. Tom On 0, Danie Roux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Having a funny one here: > > The eepro card stops functioning, for hours on end. Then suddenly it > would start responding again. In the logfile, just before it stopped > functioning: > > Sep 11 09:21:43 buzzer kernel: eth0: XMT status = 0x8841 > > And then before it started responding: > > Sep 12 04:08:03 buzzer kernel: eth0: set Rx mode to 1 address. > > Netsaint is telling me it has been up for 4 hours now. Yesterday it > stopped working while I was ssh'ing into the PC, and I think it has > something to do with that. HTTP is fine (but it is a very low load PC). > > I've talked with someone on IRC, and he says he's dmesg says something > about a work-around being enabled for this card. I have the stock 2.4.18 > on that PC, it's an old Pentium. But I don't have a msg regarding a > workaround. > -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide Never be irreplacable: If you are irreplacable then you are unpromotable. Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg02338/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: email clients
On 0, Tom Allison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Proably old... but I've decided that I am getting really tired of > the Mozilla email. It's OK, but it takes a while for it to load > up and seems a bit heavy at times. > > I am wondering two things: > First, any recommendations on a mail client? Pine is clunky and not free enough to go into Debian. Use mutt. It is a very useful text based client. > Second, Is there someway to modify Mozilla to over-ride it's mail > client to start $MAIL_CLIENT when prompted. > (Ctrl-M, mailto:$links...) Dunno, sorry. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "Other people's priorities are endlessly odd." - Kingsley Amis Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg02621/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Mesa bug?
Hi all, This may be a mesa bug or it may be a manifestation of my ignorance of opengl. If the latter then I apologise for OT posting. I am playing with clipping planes in an effort to do some fancy stuff in 3D graphics. My problem is that mesa appears to only let me define a client clipping plane once. That is, the first call of: glClipPlane( GL_CLIP_PLANE0, vector ); correctly defines a clipping plane. But all subsequent calls to it have no effect on the clipping planes. This seems something of a major restriction to me, since mesa only has 6 client defined clipping planes to play with, and these are soon exhausted. So have I misunderstood something, or is this a mesa bug? I wanted to ask before I filed a bug. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "Other people's priorities are endlessly odd." - Kingsley Amis Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg02948/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mesa bug?
On 0, "Eric G. Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Sep 22, 2002 at 04:11:44PM +0930, Tom Cook wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > This may be a mesa bug or it may be a manifestation of my ignorance of > > opengl. If the latter then I apologise for OT posting. > > > > I am playing with clipping planes in an effort to do some fancy stuff > > in 3D graphics. My problem is that mesa appears to only let me define > > a client clipping plane once. That is, the first call of: > > > > glClipPlane( GL_CLIP_PLANE0, vector ); > > > > correctly defines a clipping plane. But all subsequent calls to it > > have no effect on the clipping planes. > > > > This seems something of a major restriction to me, since mesa only has > > 6 client defined clipping planes to play with, and these are soon > > exhausted. > > > > So have I misunderstood something, or is this a mesa bug? I wanted to > > ask before I filed a bug. > > In grunting around some code that does clipping planes, seems you > need to call glEnable/glDisable after glClipPlane. At least, > that's what the code I looked at does. Calls glEnable if the > plane was turned on, and glDisable if it was off. It queries > glIsEnabled(GL_CLIP_PLANE0 + (num)) prior to calling glClipPlane(). > I guess glClipPlane() possibly toggles the state (or just turns it > off). I'm no OpenGL guru ... Thanks for the tip! Turned out I had an extra level of glEnable/Disable( GL_CLIP_PLANE0 ) around my code. Thanks Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "Other people's priorities are endlessly odd." - Kingsley Amis Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg03091/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: netmasks
On 0, Martin Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > a question i was asked recently on a topic that I thought > i understood untill i was asked > > Given the hypothetical subnet 136.206.16.128 and netmask 255.255.255.128, > state the valid range of IP addresses that could be assigned to hosts on > the subnet?(also another was 64.122.34.83 & netmask 255.255.255.240 :( ) > > i was used to looking at plain netmasks ie 255.255.255.0(ff00) etc > which I understand fine but my grasp of anything else is less than > good... > > any help is appreciated.. I find that looking at it in binary helps. Sooo, given an address of 136.206.16.157... 136.206.16.12810001000 11001110 0001 1000 255.255.255.128 1000 136.206.16.15710001000 11001110 0001 10011101 \--/\-/ This is the network This is partthe host part The host part can take on any value and still be a valid address within that subnet[1]. So there are 2^7=128 valid addresses in this subnet, and they are 136.206.16.128 through 136.206.16.255. If you take the logical AND of an address and the netmask, ADDR AND NETMASK, then you get the network part of the address if you take ADDR AND ( NOT NETMASK ) then you get the host part. Another way of specifying this sort of network is to say that it is 136.206.16.128/25, which is to say that the network's addresses start at 136.206.16.128 and that the first 25 bits specify the network part of the address. This network would be different if it was specified as 136.206.16.128/255.255.255.192, because then it would only be half as large. Then it would look like this: 136.206.16.128 10001000 11001110 0001 1000 (Same) 255.255.255.192 1100 (Extra 1) 136.206.16.157 10001000 11001110 0001 10011101 (Same) \---/\/ Network part Host part Now the range of valid addresses are 136.206.16.128 through to 136.206.16.191, and there is another possible network, 136.206.16.192/255.255.255.192, which contains the other half of the addresses from our original, 25bit network. So these are the key points: * The network number (136.206.16.128) is the first valid address in that network. * The netmask (255.255.255.128) tells you which bits in an address determine the network and which the host. * The valid addresses on that network are the addresses starting at the network number through to the address that has all the host bits set to 1, taking into account [1] below. [1]The address where the host part is all 1s is the broadcast address. There are also some broken implementations that consider the address where the host part is all 0s to be the broadcast address as well. HTH. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "That you're not paranoid does not mean they're not out to get you." - Robert Waldner Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg03093/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mesa bug?
On 0, John Manko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > Also, according to 1.4 specs: > > The state required for clipping is at least 6 sets of plane equations > (each consisting of four double-percision floating-point coefficients) > and at least 6 corresponding bits indicating which of these > client-defined plane equations are enabled. In the initial state, all > client-defined plane equation coeffients are zero and all planes are > disabled. > > .. but I'm sure you've read that. Indeed I have, although it was in the 1.2 spec (since that is the version that mesa 3.2.4 implements, and that is what is in woody/sarge). The import of it seems to be that you only need define the clipping planes you want to use, because you will (presumably) only enable those ones. I think the statements about minimum state required to implement features that are scattered through the spec are aimed more at people implementing the spec than people using an implementation, but I may be very wrong about that. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "Chaos Theory is a new theory invented by scientists panicked by the thought that the public were beginning to understand the old ones." - Mike Barfield Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg03094/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Strange X behaviour after woody instalation (?!)
On 0, Zbigniew Perski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, Two weeks ago I decided to move from WinNT to Debian woody. I am > new in Linux so I decided first to instal woody as a 2nd > system. Installation was correct (bf2.4 on ext3) but problems starts > when I tried to turn on X windows. After startx my screen showing me > colored screen with skewed desktop stretched over center of the > screen and whole picture is divided into thin diagonal strips. I am > running Hercules Thriller 3D (8MB RAM) and 17' OptiView 17L > monitor. The XFree86 is configured to use rendition driver (the card > is using this chipset) and 1024x768 at 75Hz (same as I working with > NT). If I am trying to change screen resolution or frequency the > distortions remains the same. The same effect was when I tried with > different monitor. Does anyone have similar problem or knows how to > solve it? Hmm, sounds like your sync rates are faster than your monitor can handle. I recommend first trying to get X running at a low resolution, to prove that it can work, then gradually work the resolution up to the point where you want it, then gradually work the refresh rate up until it's OK. I can't remember the package to reconfigure off-hand, but the command is something like: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 HTH Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup. Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg03095/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Reset root password
On 0, nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matthew Daubenspeck said: > > I have acquired a "hand me down" debian potato box that I need to do some > > serious overhaul work on, but the old admin doesn't remember the root > > password. > > > > Does anyone have a quick and dirty FAQ or doc on how to reset/change the > > root password? > > if its using lilo the easy way is when you see the LILO prompt hit shift > then type > > linux init=/bin/bash > > then once the system is up do > > mount / -o remount,rw then 'passwd'? Or is there some reason that doesn't work? Tom > then edit /etc/shadow and delete all the stuff between the first and > second colons, > > then > > mount / -o remount,ro > > reboot > > when it comes up login as root(you shouldn't be prompted for a password. > > another way is to boot with a boot disk and mount the drive and edit > the file > > nate > > > > -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide Why are Fire Engines Red? They have four wheels and eight men; four plus eight is twelve. Twelve inches make a ruler; a ruler is Queen Elizabeth. Queen Elizabeth sails the seven seas; the seven seas have fish. The fish have fins; the Finns hate the Russians. The Russians are red; fire engines are always rushin'. So they're red. Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg03097/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mozilla dead keys
On 0, Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corsetti Dutra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am using Mozilla & Galeon at Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 PowerPC testing. I > have an iBook with US keyboard, and use the US-intl keyboard which gives > me Western European diacritical accented characters using the tilde, > quote, apostrophe, circumflex and grave dead keys. The original > characters are given by typing the key twice or followed by a space. > > I can use dead keys both in console and in X, using Gnome mostly. But I > can't use them properly in neither Mozilla nor Gnome. The URL boxes are > OK, but neither HTML forms nor email bodies or headers. I do not get > neither accented character nor the simple quote, apostrophe, tilde, grave > or circumflex. > > I already revised all my locale and keyboard configurations with help > from the user-portuguese list, and no one could help me there. I am > about to file a bug, but thought it might be expedient to raise the issue > here. Maybe the forms use the Content-Encoding: and Content-Language: headers of the HTML page to determine locale instead of your system locale? Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "My advice to you is to get married: If you find a good wife, you will be happy; if not, you will become a philosopher." - Socrates Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg03259/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: logitech cordless keyboard loosing contact / Detecting Turbo-Button
On 0, Michael Wördehoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi List, > > still I'm no subscribed member ;) so please cc directly to me. > > My ( non-optical ) remote keyboard and mouse eventually both loose contact to > the receiver when I switch from text-console to X with ctrl-alt-F7. A wild, wild guess, but maybe your monitor refresh frequency is at about the RF of your keyboard and mouse, and is interfering with them? Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "My advice to you is to get married: If you find a good wife, you will be happy; if not, you will become a philosopher." - Socrates Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg03260/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT - RMS homepage moved?
On 0, Cameron Matheson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote: > >I am looking for RMS's homepage. I am getting "unknown host" when > >attempting a connect to http://www.slallman.org. Anyone have any info on > >a current url? > > I'm assuming this is a typo... but i think it's really > http://www.stallman.org";. ... which gives me the response: ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached so it looks like their DNS is dead (or maybe their network's been pulled). Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "My advice to you is to get married: If you find a good wife, you will be happy; if not, you will become a philosopher." - Socrates Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg03449/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: supersuer by a normal user with chmod
Supersuer bit? Also known as the RIAA bit? On 0, Raffaele Sandrini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi > > On normal homedirs the owner of the files is the owner of the homedir. That > means he/she can alter the file permissions in the files he/she ownes (with > chmod) > > I tested the following: As a normal user i crated a file in my homedir. > % touch test > > I changed it to a exec file. > % chmod 700 test > > No i set the superuser bit > % chmod +s test No, you didn't. > It worked(!). That means that a user can download for example a BASH > binary and set the superuser bit for it ans has root privileges ??!! > > Am i missing here something? Yes. That is the setuid bit, not the superuser bit. When an executable with this bit set is executed, it executes with the uid of the OWNER, not the superuser. To make this setuid root you have to: # touch test # chmod 700 test # chown root test # chmod +s test If you can do THAT then there is something wrong. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "Intellectual freedom is not the freedom to believe anything, but the freedom to believe only the truth." - Dr. John Stott Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg03459/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: Alternatives to ls for sorting files by modification time
On 0, Holger Rauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Vineet!
>
> Thanks a lot for your quick reply!
>
> On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Vineet Kumar wrote:
>
> > [...]
> > processing the list, i.e. with xargs? It's hard to make suggestions
> > without seeing what you're trying to do...
>
> You're right ;-) What I'm doing is
>
> FILES=`$LS -lt1 $BACKUP_DIR/arc/*.arc | $TAIL -$NUM_OF_FILES`
> for i in $FILES; do
> $RM -f $i
> done
All I can say is... it works for me. How many files in the directory
where you're having this fail? It works for me in /usr/lib.
# ls /usr/lib -lt1 | wc -l
841
Obviously I am not using 'rm -f $i' in this directory, I am using
'echo $i' instead. Shouldn't make any difference. It works for me
with $NUM_OF_FILES up to 800.
BTW, you probably want something more like this:
FILES=`$LS -lt1 $BACKUP_DIR/arc/*.arc | $AWK '{print $9;}' | $TAIL -$NUM_OF_FILES`
for i in $FILES; do
$RM -f $i
done
otherwise you will get a lot of files with names like '-rw-r-'
that rm can't delete for some mysterious reason. Maybe that was your
problem?
Tom
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Re: OT: Alternatives to ls for sorting files by modification time
On 0, Holger Rauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Tom! > > Thanks for your quick reply! > > On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Tom Cook wrote: > > > [...] > > All I can say is... it works for me. How many files in the directory > > where you're having this fail? It works for me in /usr/lib. > > > > # ls /usr/lib -lt1 | wc -l > > 841 > > I suspect the problem is not $NUM_OF_FILES since that is set to only > 50. To me, the problem seems to be the sheer number of files returned by > ls: > > ls -lt1 $BACKUP_DIR/*.arc | wc -l > >2708 > > That number will grow considerably since these .arc files are Oracle > archive files and 4-5 of these files are created *per minute*. I see. > > [...] > > otherwise you will get a lot of files with names like '-rw-r-' > > that rm can't delete for some mysterious reason. Maybe that was your > > problem? > > No, I don't get the permission settings since I used "ls -lt1" which is > different from "ls -lt". When it comes to "ls -lt", I absolutely agree > with you. Even though the ls's man page is not very specific on "-1", it > seems to strip the other info returned by "-l" away, which is what I want. > The awk you added of course also works, if I only used "ls -lt". I can safely say that I knew nothing about the -1 option to ls when I sent that message, except that I have observed this result: tkcook@brain:~/mbox$ ls -lt1 total 40 drwx--S---2 tkcook tkcook 32768 Sep 20 17:04 cur drwx--S---2 tkcook tkcook 4096 Sep 20 17:04 tmp drwx--S---2 tkcook tkcook 4096 Sep 20 17:03 new tkcook@brain:~/mbox$ Clearly it is NOT stripping off the attributes. The man page just says "one file per line", not anything about attributes. Do you get a different result on your system? What sort of system is it? I get this result on a woody box and an (oldish) sid box. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide Classifications of inanimate objects: Those that don't work, those that break down, and those that get lost. Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg03472/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Recently installed packages
On 0, Stuart Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I recently installed several packages along with their dependencies. I > have since decided that I didn't really want those packages after all > but I can't remember the names of all the installed dependencies. > > Is there any way to get a list of packages installed within a certain > time frame (perhaps an apt log)? > > thanks, > Stuart Johnston Uninstall them and then run deborphan (apt-get install deborphan) to see what stuff is installed that is not a dependency of an installed package. Regards, Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "There are few things more satisfying than seeing your children have teenagers of their own." - Doug Larson Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg03700/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Page Faults Defined
On 0, Anthony DeRobertis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > > A page fault, despite its name, has nothing to do with > > memory corruption or an invalid access. > > It has quite a bit to do with an invalid access. As far as the MMU is > concerned, it *is* an invalid access: There is no page mapped to the > address, and thus it throws a (hardware) exception called a 'page > fault'. > > Please check your friendly CPU data book ;-) [snip] Your points (as well as the ones I have snipped) are valid, but I think the point the OP was making was that page faults are not due to bad programming practice, they are a normal part of the operation of the kernel memory manager. When bad programming practice comes in (eg. pointer arithmetic gone haywire) the fault is always recast as a segmentation fault or a bus error. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "There are few things more satisfying than seeing your children have teenagers of their own." - Doug Larson Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg03881/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Woody IPv6 problem finally, really, solved
On 0, Carel Fellinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 11:14:27AM +0200, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: [snip] > > So if your /etc/hosts is, for instance: > ,,, > > 192.168.1.3 venus.my.homevenus > > > > Then at the end of the file you have to add > ... > > :::192.168.1.3 venus.my.homevenus > > ...now there is one name with to addresses, how will other programs react > to that. e.g. dnsmasq? Shouldn't they correctly determine the address based on the IP protocol used to lookup the name? Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "There are few things more satisfying than seeing your children have teenagers of their own." - Doug Larson Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg03882/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Centralized user-database: LDAP vs. KerberosV5 vs. AFS
On 0, Raffaele Sandrini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi > > I try to evaluate wich is THE user database and login system. > > I read many docs and tried it for myself. I ask here for your thoughts about > that. First some of mine: > > LDAP: This is deffinitly a cool method. Its very simple and very secure due > its high SSL encryption. And through the possibility of NSS_LDAP virtually > every application will automatically support that and due the nature of LDAP > you are able to store all sort of information about the user in the LDAP > tree. We use LDAP as our single authentication tree for both staff and students. It is certainly a Cool Thing. We use it to authenticate on Linux systems (PAM) as well as NT (there are good replacements for the login system on NT that let you use LDAP, we use the Novell one and lay an NDS tree over it). It is also the authentication database for email, calendaring and a few other things. I don't know about AFS (what is it?) Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "Beware of computer programmers that carry screwdrivers." - Leonard Brandwein Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg03886/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: alsa help needed desperately!
On 0, "Martin A. Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi folks > > i cant get my alsa working. it have worked before. > > please help me! i have used many hours by now!!! What does lspci say? Is the card firmly in the slot? Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "The secret of creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." - Albert Einstein Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg03887/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: compare filesystem types ???
On 0, "Michael D. Schleif" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Now that we have several filesystem types (ext2/3, reiserfs, &c.), where > can I go to find out pros and cons of each? Is there some > filesystem-selection-HOWTO? > > For instance, what is the best filesystem type on which to install a > database, specifically oracle? > > Also, setup and configuration hints are valuable (e.g., block size) . . > . > > What do you think? I'm not a filesystem expert, but I'd say that a journaling filesystem like ext3 or reiserfs is wasted on Oracle, since it does far more journalling than the filesystem will ever do. Make sure you have your Oracle controlfiles backed up, logfiles replicated on more than one partition (preferrably more than one device), datafiles backed up regularly, and logfiles archived somewhere safe. As for the best FS for general use, I think you will get more conflicting opinions than is worth your while. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "Other people's priorities are endlessly odd." - Kingsley Amis Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg03888/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Page Faults Defined
On 0, Darren Salt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I demand that Anthony DeRobertis may or may not have written... > > [snip] > > Writing off of allocated memory causes a page fault as well > > Well, I suppose that that would be useful if the memory is unrepairable... I > hope that it was insured :-) All together now... 1... 2... 3... ;-) Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide Classifications of inanimate objects: Those that don't work, those that break down, and those that get lost. Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg03889/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Tex to PDF conversion trouble (pdflatex)
David P James wrote: > > Alan Shutko was roused into action on 09/27/02 23:12 and wrote: > > David P James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > >>In case this matters, tetex-bin and tetex-base are installed. > > > > > > Install tetex-extra, I think. > > > > Yep, that seems to have done the trick, sort of. Lyx is still not > converting directly to PDF or PS for printing, but I can run pdflatex at > the command line now. Ktexmaker2 is functionning fully however, and that > is probably what I'll use at it is a nice program that facilitates > learning TeX formatting. Just as a note, I recommend tex2pdf instead of pdflatex. I don't think there is a .deb for it, but it handles graphic files much better, converting encapsulated postscript to encapsulated PDF, and also generates nice bookmarks and links and stuff. Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Symlink clarification needed (vi -> vim)
Robert Ian Smit wrote: > > I know that some programs react differently depending on how they > are called. When you create a symlink to a program, does the program > know that it was started by using a symlink? It's dependant on your C library (although that should be fairly standard across OS) but the only behaviour I have seen is that argv[0] is the name of the executable as given on the command line, and therefore, if vim emulates vi when the executable is called vi, then it will also emulate vi when executed via a symlink called vi. Tom > For instance when I create a vi symlink to vim, will vim start up > normally or will it mimick vi? > > If so, can I change this without going into config files for the > program? > > I am asking this because I want to use (vim) vi on a non-Debian > system that does not create symlinks for this package or use an > alternatives system. > > Bob > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: latex2e.fmt not found by xemacs
Sebastian Canagaratna wrote: > > Hi: > > I an using sarge and I upgraded yesterday. In xemacs latex2e > Interactive works, but latex2e does not. So I linked, in /usr/bin/ > latex2e to tex, and copied /usr/share/texmf/web2c/latex.fmt to > latex2e.fmt, ran texconfig > but when I click on latex2e in xemacs, it cannot find > latex2e.fmt. I get the same message when I run latex2e file > from the command line. When I copied latex2e.fmt to the directory > in which the tex file was, it works. So clearly, this is a path > problem. I believe I did the same thing a few months ago > on the other machine that > I have (sarge, but not upgraded froma few months), and there I don't > have any difficulty. > > I am puzzled that there is a path problem, because I thought texconfig > would look after this. > > Any suggestions? I think you need to install tetex-extras. Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A (little) bit OT: The Gimp & LaTeX (Or putting it all together)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I manipulate my high quality jpg photos (camera 4.1 megapixel i.e. images 2272x1704 >pixels) with Linux & the Gimp and print them with the Gimp itself after having put >two pictures on an A4 glossy high quality paper. Now this procedure is time-consuming >and I'm would like to use the LaTeX for this same purpose. > For instance, I have tried the following: > after manipulating a couple of jpg images I've saved them as PS images and then >loaded them into a LaTeX program where, by means of textpos, graphicx packages and >\parbox I've put them on a single A4 paper. > > Now my technical questions: > > Is there any loss of image quality in doing so (I didn't even try to print one image >owing to the high cost of glossy paper!!) with respect to a Gimp printing? gv I find that conversion to PS/EPS often degrades bitmap pictures (in particular the over-the-top anti-aliasing makes text and hard lines fairly fuzzy). > AND/OR > > Is there any linux package able to put any number of photos on a single A4 page? Couldn't say about that. Try 'apt-cache search images one page' or something like that. Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A (little) bit OT: The Gimp & LaTeX (Or putting it all together)
On 0, Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tom Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I find that conversion to PS/EPS often degrades bitmap pictures (in > > particular the over-the-top anti-aliasing makes text and hard lines > > fairly fuzzy). > > That should only be for display (since AA only happens on display). > JPEG images can be put into PS file without uncompression, so there > should be no degradation. > > Now, when converting to PDF many distill-type programs will resample > the image, which will degrade it, but that can be turned off. This is news to me; I am only a 'part-time' LaTeX user. How do I include jpegs directly in LaTeX without degradation when I make it a PS doc? Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide "A child of five could understand this. Fetch me a child of five." - Groucho Marx Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg04494/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: KDE2 helloworld.cpp
On 0, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 30 September 2002 16:55, John Batistic wrote: > > I am unable to compile the KDE2 helloworld.cpp example > > > > error message from make: > > > > g++-c -o helloworld.o helloworld.cpp > > helloworld.cpp:2: qapplication.h: No such file or directory > > helloworld.cpp:3: qlabel.h: No such file or directory > > helloworld.cpp:4: qstring.h: No such file or directory > > make: *** [helloworld.o] Error 1 > > > > There appear to be two problems. > > > > 1. $HOME/.profile is not being processed. PATH is not modified to the > > new settings as per the 'installing Qt/X11' reference documentation. > > > > 2. If I force .profile with '. .profile' PATH etc are modified - but > > ignored. > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > Thanks > > > > John Batistic > > You do not state so let's start at the beginning. > > Do you have the -dev version of the kdelibs as well as qt installed? Rather > than depend on environment variables I usually define the path to my include > files in a makefile. Also Debian is a little different because we actually > install qt so that /usr/include/qt exists so you should not really need any > special variables set. Also, of course, $PATH is not searched for #include files. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide When you go to the sysadmin's office in the afternoon, and all is deathly quiet, there are three possibilities: 1) Something has gone wrong, and they are all trying to fix it. 2) Something has gone badly wrong, and they have all left the country. 3) Something has gone very badly wrong, and you're missing happy hour. Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg04497/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
