Re: Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r1

2003-10-18 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Sat, 2003-10-18 at 15:34, Brian Walker wrote:
> Meanwhile, if you want to rush into things, it sounds as if you need to
> enable booting from the CDROM, which you must change in the BIOS.

On older machines, there may be no capability of booting from CD, in
which case you _have_ to build a set of boot floppies, as previously
described.

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Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL

2003-10-20 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 09:44, Johann Spies wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 18, 2003 at 05:31:33PM +0200, Henning Moll wrote:
> > On Saturday 18 October 2003 17:09, Paul Smith wrote:
> > > If you use GPL'd code and you distribute the results, you have to
> > > give the source code, either along with the program or when people
> > > ask you for it.
> > 
> > And you have to put your own code also under a GPL compatible license.
> 
> I don't think that is necessary but I may be wrong. 
> 
> This is how I understand it: if you use GPL libraries you will have to
> mention that in your documentation and make available the source code
> of those libraries.  You can license your own program differently even
> if you use GPL code and then you don't have to reveal your code except
> for the open source parts of the libraries.

That is true of libraries licensed under the LGPL, but not of those
licensed under the GPL.  If they are GPL licensed, any thing that links
to them must also be licensed under a compatible license, which means
that the source code must be made available.

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Re: big troubles in little libc

2003-10-20 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 18:35, iain d broadfoot wrote:
> Hey list,
> 
>   I'm having a few problems with programs dying:
> 
> liferea:0x407196c9 in free () from /lib/libc.so.6
> gaim: 0x407466c9 in free () from /lib/libc.so.6
> 
>   I can't see a bugreport about this on libc6, and it doesn't feel
>   like the individual apps are doing anything in particular
>   wrong...

It may be a problem in some library common to both programs.

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Re: Newbie .deb question, help needed

2003-10-21 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 06:01, Ralph F. De Witt wrote:
> I am new to Debian, one week old, and still trying to come to grips with the 
> differencies. I have a deb which carries the dependiencies for sid. I am 
> running a up to date sarge. All dependiencies are meet excepet for kdelibs, I 
> am one version back. Is there a way to rework the deb so that I can install 
> it on my Sarge based system? Thanks for your help?

The most certain way is to download the source package and build it on
your own machine.  Install devscripts; add the source line in
/etc/apt/sources.list; apt-get update; cd /usr/src [or somewhere];
apt-get source package; cd package-directory; debuild; cd ..; dpkg -i
package*.deb.

If you don't want to do that, you can investigate pinning in apt (read
the docs - I haven't used it myself!)

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Re: Gender in language (was Re: way-OT: regularity of german v. english [was: ])

2003-10-25 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 12:12, David Palmer. wrote:
...
> Most of our modern knowledge of the Celts
> comes from the Roman campaigners' reports, in particular Julius Caesar
> who fought a protracted campaign against the Celts in Britain, as the
> Celts had an oral history not written.

There are Welsh records going back a very long way before Caesar, and
giving the native view of his campaign.  See
http://www.ldolphin.org/cooper/ch4.html
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Multiple postgresql packages proposed

2003-10-28 Thread Oliver Elphick
I'm currently considering whether and how to have multiple versions of
the PostgreSQL packages installed at once.

This is to get round problems with upgrading major versions, and to
allow people to have multiple database clusters, possibly at different
software versions.

The full proposal is at
http://cvs.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/common/postgresql-client.html?rev=1.1&content-type=text/html&cvsroot=pkg-postgresql

Will postgresql package users please take a look and comment.

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Replying to the list in evolution [was Re: Outgoing SMTP ports]

2003-10-29 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 13:50, Richard Lyons wrote:
> On Wednesday 29 October 2003 14:23, BruceG wrote:
> [...]
> > (I noticed when replying using Ximian Evolution, it does the to: as the
> > original poster. If I reply to all, it cc:'s the debian-user list. I had
> > to delete the to: and move debian-users from cc: to to:  Wonder why that
> > is?)

If you want to reply to the list only, that option is available in
evolution from the pop-up menu put up by your mouse right-button.
(At least in evolution 1.4 -- I don't remember seeing it in earlier
releases.)

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Re: can you help me?

2003-11-01 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 07:11, Joel Goodin wrote:
> debian?,
> it seemed like you might have some christian values
> from what i saw on a forum on the net.

Some of us do.  Not Debian as an organisation, except insofar as the
ideal of free software is compatible with Christian ideas of community. 
Other members of Debian would get very cross at the very idea of having
Christian values!

>   i am not
> completely illiterate with computers, but still could
> use some help in finding a way, if possible to
> restrict my search on the net, so that my computer
> will not accept certain words that i might type in
> during a lapse in my moral stability.  understand? :) 
> if you have any ideas for ways to protect myself from
> temptation, please e-mail back.  i want to find
> something that won't restrict me from sites that i
> would feel are ok.  maybe just words that i couldn't
> type in and get a response from search engines. 
> ideas?  i would appreciate help.  

You can install web proxies such as privoxy.  It has a demonstration
filter called crude-parental which you could expand on.

There is also a package in the unstable release called dansguardian,
which seems to do almost exactly what you want.  The upstream site is
http://dansguardian.org/

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Re: New user help...

2003-11-12 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 08:49, Kevin Krumwiede wrote:
> I feel like RedHat has sold out on me as a paying customer, so I'm
> looking at Debian.  I've run into a few problems, though...
...
> Second, I tried 'apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-586'.  I got the
> new kernel installed and running (which nicely took care of the above
> problem), but it didn't come with pcmcia modules so now I have no
> network.  Are those in another package?

kernel-pcmcia-modules-2.4.18-586tsc

Hint: look at http://packages.debian.org

> Third, to see if apt-get is as easy as everyone says, I did 'apt-get
> install xfce'.  It downloaded all the dependencies, or so it says...
> but when I run startxfce, it bombs because it can't find 'xinit'. 
> What am I missing?

Install x-window-system.  xfce depends on xlibs, but since X is client
server, installing a package that uses X does not automatically install
the whole X system; it could be using a display on a different machine. 
There might not even be a display on the local machine.

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How to use ssh tunnel to reach a machine on a private network?

2003-11-15 Thread Oliver Elphick
I wonder if anyone can help me work out how to do this, please:

I have two private networks (192.168.1.0/24) each with a firewall
machine connecting through ADSL to the Internet.  Each private network
can reach the Internet through the firewall (using NAT); therefore no
machine except the firewall is visible from outside (at static IP
addresses allocated by the ISP).

I can, from any machine on either private network, do
"ssh -X remote.firewall.address" and connect to the remote firewall. 
What I am trying to do is to use ssh tunnelling to go direct to one of
the machines on the remote private network, because I need to be able to
run X programs from that machine on my own display.  However, I can't
work out how to do it.

So far, I tried

   ssh -X -L 8877:remote.private.machine:22 remote.firewall.address

(using 8877 as an arbitrary unassigned port) but all that gives me is a
connection to the remote firewall itself.

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Re: Kernel Recompile

2003-01-24 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Fri, 2003-01-24 at 18:17, Irish, Jon D MEVATEC wrote:
> Can anyone tell me if there is a HOW-TO, or paper available that covers
> recompiling the kernel for Debian? I found the Kernel HOWTO, but it appears
> to be slanted more toward RedHat, and I am a 'newbie' so I want to make sure
> that I am doing it right.

Install the package kernel-package and read its documentation.
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Re: Gimp Print Problem

2003-01-30 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 18:37, Thomas H. George wrote:
> I ran the error_log as suggested.  The first 'false' result occurred on
> line 285.  I saved this and the following 10 lines but can't figure out
> how to use vi to insert them here.  vi wont let me switch to the file I
> saved without exiting this message.

:r other/file

will insert the contents of other/file at the cursor position.

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Re: postgreSQL install - user password

2003-02-02 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 05:27, Cameron Hutchison wrote:
> Once upon a time Kevin Coyner said...
> > 
> > As I dig through the docs, I find that I need to su postgres in order to
> > create other users. Problem is that if I su postgres, I get queried for
> > a password.  I've tried the obvious, including nothing, but haven't got
> > in as postgres yet.  
> 
> su to root first. Then when you su to postgres, you wont need to enter a
> password.

Once you are root, do "su - postgres" rather than just "su postgres";
this sets you up as for a direct login by postgres.

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Re: A few very simple Evolution questions...

2003-02-07 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 00:22, Davor Balder wrote:
> When I start-up Evolution from the console, it gives message that locale
> is not supported by C library. Is this important? 
> 
> Also, I noticed that when I am typing up an email (like now for
> example), the font is very small and I cannot increase its size by using
> Ctrl-+. I can however increase the size of the font for reading on
> emails in my inbox. 

In 1.2, Ctrl-8 and Ctrl-0 increase and decrease the font size.

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Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-09 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 08:51, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 00:57, Gary Turner wrote:
> > Paul Johnson wrote:
> > 
> > >On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 10:32:10PM -0600, Gary Turner wrote:
> [snip]
> > >From a logic class many years ago:
> > 
> > "All Volvo drivers are liberal, but not all liberals drive Volvos."
> 
> Hey, I resent that!!  If they still made 240s, and were affordable, I'd
> definitely still drive one.

What's to stop you?   Find a second-hand one.  Our last one did 250,000
miles before it rusted across the bottom and had to be scrapped.  The
current one has done 120,000.  We even bought one new once, and only
sold it when it became too small to hold 5 growing children -- we had
two in the extra rear-facing seat with their knees round their ears.

But I can safely assert that the premise is false: not all Volvo drivers
are liberals!

(Now where else can this thread go?)

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Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-09 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 11:32, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > By RA, you mean RAF?
> 
> Royal Army, not Air Force.

Royal Navy, Royal Air Force, Royal Marines but not Royal Army.  It's
just The Army or the British Army.  Perhaps because each regiment has
its separate traditions, whereas the navy and the air force were more
centralised.

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Re: Problems installing Debian on PIII using Adaptec 2400A RAID 5 array as boot drive

2003-09-09 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 07:11, Derek Chew En-Hock wrote:
> With a heavy heart, I attempted install Redhat 9 on my machine and it
> automatically detected the Adaptec 2400A and installed flawlessly... I
> guess installing Debian on this machine maybe beyond my current
> abilities...
> 
> Does anyone know of a way I can extract the drivers from the Redhat
> disc or boot disc and use it to help in the Debian Installation? feel
> a little uncomfortable moving away from my comfy Debian machines...

You need CONFIG_SCSI_DPT_I2O set in the kernel.

The woody install disks' bf24 kernel does not have this included, so you
need to build a kernel for it.  If the RAID card has the only disks,
this gives you a bootstrapping problem; I can provide you with a
kernel-image deb for such a kernel, but you would need to be in a
position to run dpkg in order to make use of it.

I had to build a new bootable CD in order to get Debian loaded onto the
machine in question.

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Re: Problems installing Debian on PIII using Adaptec 2400A RAID 5 array as boot drive

2003-09-09 Thread Oliver Elphick
You wrote:
> ..Oliver, would your boot image cover software raid setups too?  And
> install from network?  Say from a lan mirror?  If so, image url?  ;-)

Sorry; it was a specific build for a hardware RAID machine.

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Re: Open-source opportunuity?

2003-09-11 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 00:36, Clive Menzies wrote:
[ re Network Rail tender request ]
> I'm London (UK) based and have a business background.  I lack the
> technical skills and knowledge to approach this but I'd be happy to
> contribute. 

I'm an accountant by training, but technical by long-settled choice.

Making a tender is very much a business and marketing exercise.  We
would need to convince the customer not only of the technical merits of
our proposal but also that we have an organisation capable both of doing
the job and of providing long-term support.  We would first have to
build such an organisation.

If that can be done, I would like to be involved.

> I lurk on this list generally to expand my knowledge and
> have been a beneficiary of your collective wisdom and individual
> knowledge ;)
> 
> Regards
> 
> Clive
> 
> http://www.clivemenzies.co.uk
> strategies for business
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Weird network behaviour - can anyone explain it?

2003-09-17 Thread Oliver Elphick
We have a machine whose network configuration is in some way wrong, but
I don't know how.

When it boots, the network is configured correctly, according to
ifconfig, but it takes forever for things (a deliberately vague word) to
be processed.  Then it seems to handle a number of requests all at once
and goes back to sleep for a while.  The effect is illustrated by this
ping across the local ethernet (other machines on the same net have no
problems):

#  ping braydb
PING braydb.somedomain.com (192.168.1.18): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 192.168.1.18: icmp_seq=33 ttl=64 time=0.6 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.18: icmp_seq=34 ttl=64 time=0.8 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.18: icmp_seq=35 ttl=64 time=1.4 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.18: icmp_seq=18 ttl=64 time=17002.5 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.18: icmp_seq=19 ttl=64 time=16003.6 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.18: icmp_seq=20 ttl=64 time=15004.2 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.18: icmp_seq=21 ttl=64 time=14004.8 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.18: icmp_seq=22 ttl=64 time=13005.4 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.18: icmp_seq=23 ttl=64 time=12005.9 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.18: icmp_seq=24 ttl=64 time=11006.5 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.18: icmp_seq=25 ttl=64 time=10007.0 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.18: icmp_seq=26 ttl=64 time=9007.6 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.18: icmp_seq=27 ttl=64 time=8008.1 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.18: icmp_seq=28 ttl=64 time=7008.6 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.18: icmp_seq=29 ttl=64 time=6009.1 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.18: icmp_seq=30 ttl=64 time=5009.7 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.18: icmp_seq=31 ttl=64 time=4010.3 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.18: icmp_seq=32 ttl=64 time=3010.9 ms 

--- braydb.somedomain.com ping statistics ---
49 packets transmitted, 18 packets received, 63% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 0.6/8339.2/17002.5 ms

After some considerable time, this effect stops and normal response
times resume.  (I hope that this will also be the case on this occasion;
the machine has been running for 5 hours so far.)

Kernel is 2.4.20 SMP, built for this machine.
I can't identify the network card until the machine starts to respond
correctly (I am not on site).

The problem began a couple of months back; I do not know of any relevant
software change.  Since then, the machine has not been rebooted again
until today.

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Re: installin postgresql-contrib

2003-09-18 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 14:24, Alexei Chetroi wrote:
>  Hi All,
> 
>  I want to add some function to postgres database from
> postgresql-contrib package (some encryption functions). Packages install
> normally, but when I'm trying to add functions to database it complains:
> 
> [lex.lexa]$ psql mf  SET
> SET
> ERROR:  c: permission denied
> ERROR:  c: permission denied

You will find it easier to understand what is happening if you use the
-e option to psql, which will show you the queries that are being
executed.  This is the start of the sql script:

-- Adjust this setting to control where the objects get created.
SET search_path = public;
 
SET autocommit TO 'on';
 
CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION digest(text, text)
RETURNS bytea
AS '$libdir/pgcrypto', 'pg_digest'
LANGUAGE 'C';
 
CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION digest(bytea, text)
RETURNS bytea
AS '$libdir/pgcrypto', 'pg_digest'
LANGUAGE 'C';

I think that your problem is that you (the current postgresql user) does
not have permission to create a C language function.  Such a function
would have complete access to any database structures and could be used
to bypass access security, so you should probably be running as postgres
superuser to do this successfully.

I can't find the documentation references for this, and I am running
7.4beta so I can't conduct a valid test.  I asssume you are running
7.2.1?

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Re: OT: BT Broadband - which ADSL modem?

2003-09-18 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 18:21, Jonathan Matthews wrote:
> After a couple of years of um-ing and ah-ing, my dad's finally got round 
> to installing broadband.  Specifically, BT broadband (here in the uk).
> 
> He's asked me to slip in a 486 class router/firewall inbetween his 
> Windows machines and the ADSL modem, so I'd much rather go with a modem 
> that has RJ45 (ethernet) connections over any USB-type port.
> 
> I'm sure there are some debian users out there who can help me make this 
> choice -
> 
> Which ADSL modem
> 
> o has an ethernet port
> o works with BT broadband
> o offers most bang per buck

I have combined the modem and firewall by installing a Bewan adsl card,
which has Linux support:
http://www.bewan.com/bewan/products/adsl/bwadslpcist.php
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Re: OT: BT Broadband - which ADSL modem?

2003-09-19 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 14:45, Jonathan Matthews wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 11:15:35PM +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote:
> > On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 18:21, Jonathan Matthews wrote:
> [snip]
> > > Which ADSL modem
> > > 
> > > o has an ethernet port
> > > o works with BT broadband
> > > o offers most bang per buck
> > 
> > I have combined the modem and firewall by installing a Bewan adsl card,
> > which has Linux support:
> > http://www.bewan.com/bewan/products/adsl/bwadslpcist.php
> 
> Cheers for that - it looks rather nice.  Hope you don't mind if I ask a  
> couple of questions.
> 
> Are there any issues with it being internal, as with winmodems?
> Does it steal much cpu (I hope to put this in a P60)?

I haven't noticed any problems with response time on that machine.  The
current load average reported by tload is:

 0.01, 0.04, 0.01 

> The PDF techspec says "standard ATM driver" - does this take much 
> figuring out?  Is it a kernel configuration issue?

It needs a kernel with ATM enabled, some kernel modules which I got from
http://www.linuxdsl.co.uk/ and it needs a patched version of ppp, which
they provide as a binary, but which I built from source according to the
instructions at http://www.wlug.org.nz/LinuxPPPoA

> What spec PC do you have it in, and how many other NICs are there in it?  
> Does it provide any other services?  How loaded does it get?

It's a pc with a Duron processor, 512Mb memory and a 40Gb IDE disk; it's
using shorewall as a firewall.  It runs my incoming mailserver, with
MailScanner, spamassassin and clamav to filter spam and viruses (using
the daemon versions of both) and Cyrus IMAP server to receive mail for
users on other machines.  It's also got an Apache server running, but
that has only 1 static page to serve, together with sugarplum (to poison
spam address harvesters).  It is doing a bit more than my previous
gateway machine, but that was a 486 with only 64Mb memory, which tended
to choke up when too much mail came in at once (and that was just
sendmail, with no filtering).  I would guess that a P60 would be fine as
gateway and firewall, but I would pass email through to another machine
for filtering.

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Re: Getting rid of worms and viruses

2003-09-24 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 08:43, Ross Boylan wrote:
> I have been getting over 100 of these stupid MS virus emails a day.
> Some are the "install this patch from MS" variety, while some are
> embedded in returns of mail I didn't send.
> 
> This is driving me nuts, and certainly proves that Windows viruses can
> be very harmful to Linux users, even if they can't replicate on Linux.
> What do I need to take care of this (i.e., automatically delete the
> junk)?  In particular, will anti-spam software (e.g., spamassassin)
> take it out, or do I need anti-virus software (e.g., amavis)?
> 
> Is there a clear dividing line between anti-spam and anti-virus
> anymore?  And do people have recommendations other than spamassassin
> and amavis?
> 
> I run Debian systems at home and work, with somewhat different
> configurations.  I plan to migrate home to exim4 at some point, so
> really stuff that works with that would be best.  Here are some high
> points of the systems:
> Home: ISP (earthlink) -> dialup -> fetchmail -> exim3 -> mbox

There is no provision that I know of in fetchmail to filter stuff before
it downloads it, but you could have exim4 filter it before it gets to
your mailbox.

> Work: the internet -> exim4 -> courier IMAP server

My setup rejects both viruses and spam by scanning the message at the
DATA stage of the SMTP conversation.  You need exim4-daemon-heavy with
the acl patch, clamav for virus checking and spamassassin for spam.  Use
sa-learn to educate spamassassin's Bayes filter.  I installed this set
up about 4 days ago and instead of deleting hundreds of spams and
viruses each day, I now have hardly any.

> I'm getting hit on both accounts, and work forwards to home for even
> more fun.  Earthlink claims this is not their problem, which is an
> absurd position, but I'm stuck with it for now.

Can you go to someone else who will let you use SMTP to get mail? (Like
Demon Internet in the UK.)

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Re: Getting rid of worms and viruses

2003-09-24 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 11:09, Martin Jungowski wrote:
> > Can you go to someone else who will let you use SMTP to get mail? (Like
> > Demon Internet in the UK.)
> 
> Uh... I think you got that wrong. Isn't SMTP just for delivering/sending
> mail? Receiving mail is either POP3 or IMAP but as far as I know, not
> SMTP.

No.  SMTP is the way that mail gets to your ISP, who then put it into a
mailbox which you access with POP or IMAP.  If you can use SMTP, you
bypass the ISP.

If you have a permanently connected machine (as I do with an ADSL link),
the DNS MX record should point to that machine, with a backup (lower
priority) MX pointing somewhere else, such as your ISP.  Then machines
that want to send you mail connect to you directly.

If you have a dialup connection it is more difficult.  Most dialup
providers only offer POP or IMAP, but Demon Internet, in addition to the
standard POP and IMAP, also sends mail to you by SMTP when you are
connected.

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Re: Configuration file and auxiliary packages

2003-09-30 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 00:20, Patrick Goetz wrote:
> A less easily solved problem has to do with auxiliary files.  We are heavy
> TeX users, and consequently have various TeX gadgets that are not packaged
> by Debian.  OK, so we have our own tex-utm package containing these
> things.  What do you do, though, if you want to actually replace a
> file from, say, the tetex package with one you've customized yourself?
> The package system breaks down at this point, since the local and debian
> packages will conflict.  There are ways to get around this (forced
> installs, etc.) but these complicate package installation considerably.

There is a tool to handle this problem: dpkg-divert (which is part of
the dpkg package).  Check its manpage to see if it will do what you
want.

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Re: Paranoid Admin: Keystroke Logger for Debian

2003-09-30 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 00:20, ListDude1 wrote:
> Hey all, I was just wondering if there is a keystroke logger avaialble for
> Debian...I MUST give out an account and MUST know what it is
> doing.

Perhaps you could set up his login to run script (in the bsdutils
package).

script captures everything that appears on the screen, even cursor
movements and options presented by readline().

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Re: Postgres

2003-10-05 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 01:17, Dan Roscoe wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> I'm wondering if anyone has had any problems setting up phpbb2
> (http://phpbb2.com) with PostgreSQL on a woody box.
> 
> I am consistently getting error messages along the lines of 
> 
> 
> Warning: Unable to connect to PostgreSQL server: FATAL 1: IDENT
> authentication failed for user "dan" in /var/www/boards/db/postgres7.php
> on line 79
> phpBB : Critical Error
> 
> Could not connect to the database
...
> Postgres as well as all the web services required are.
> 
> If anyone has any ideas at all, please let me know.  I am trying to
> migrate a small site from one box to another, and this is the only thing
> holding me back right now.

Your authentication failed, so the server refused you access.  You need
an identd server for ident authentication of TCP/IP access.

If you are using ident authentication for access from remote machines,
this is very insecure, since you are effectively trusting the remote
machine to tell the truth.  If PHP is doing a local connection, you
probably need to use md5 (password) authentication, so as to supply the
correct username.  Presumably PHP is running as a different user, and
ident authentication will give the wrong answer any way.

Authentication policies are defined in /etc/postgresql/pg_hba.conf and
can be set according to access method, user and database.

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Re: simple text formatting

2003-10-05 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 07:37, Mike Egglestone wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a file in this format of words:
> 
> joe jill bill bob frank tom harry
> 
> and want to convert the file to this format:
> 
> joe
> jill
> bill
> bob
> frank
> tom
> harry
> 
> Is there an easy way to this? The file I have has hundreds of entries.

for word in `cat file`
do
    echo $word
done > new_file

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Re: OT: Makefile & sed-Problem

2003-10-06 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 12:31, Lukas Ruf wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> although I know it isn't anything that directly refers to Debian, I
> dare to post since I have seen many similar questions.  Please excuse!

It's not off topic for debian-user.

> The Problem: from a friend, I receive text-files that have a lot of
> whitespace before the end of a line or even lines consisting of only
> whitespace.  For this reason, I set up a Makefile that would remove
> all whitespaces:
> ##
> receive: 
>   cat in_file \
>   | sed -e 's/\s*$$//' \
>   > new_in_file
> ##
> I expect this to remove all whitespaces '\s*'ending a line.
> 
> But, funny enough, it removes all 's' ending a line.  This has been
> driving me mad for a couple of hours that's why I dare to post.
> 
> What's wrong with 's/\s*$$//' in a Makefile?
> I tried 's/\\s*$$//' -- with no success.
> 
> Hopefully someone immediately sees the problem and can give me any
> hint.

You are trying to use a Perl regular expression with sed; that doesn't
work.  Although the sed manpage refers to perlre, sed does not seem to
support Perl regular expressions.  You should look at
  man 7 regexp
instead.

Try:  sed -r -e 's/[[:space:]]+$$//'

NB, you don't need to do "cat in_file | sed [pattern]"; you can do "sed
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Re: pam_pgsql problems

2003-10-06 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 18:01, martin f krafft wrote:
...
> All in all, this make pam_pgsql pretty unusable, and I don't really
> know why. I have never told it to use SSL, and that's where the
> errors seem to come from. Postgres allows cleartext access:
> 
> /etc/postgres/pg_hba.conf:
>   hostallall   127.0.0.1   255.0.0.0   password
> 
> why in the world is SSL being used at all? What may be worth
> noticing is that PostgreSQL started the use SSL when possible in
> 7.3.3-1. If I connect with psql to localhost, being allowed to use
> clear text, I am told that I am using a
> 
>   SSL connection (cipher: DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA, bits: 256)
>   
> However, if I connect with psql to localhost on a 7.2.1-2woody2
> machine, I do not get this notice and the connection is clear-text.
> 
> There is no mention in the changelog about this, so maybe Oliver has
> a comment?

The documentation on authentication methods in pg_hba.conf says:

hostssl

This record matches connection attempts using SSL over TCP/IP.
host records will match either SSL or non-SSL connection
attempts, but hostssl records require SSL connections. 

To be able make use of this option the server must be built with
SSL support enabled. Furthermore, SSL must be enabled by
enabling the option ssl in postgresql.conf (see Section 3.4). 
So it seems that pam_pgsql is choosing to use SSL to connect to the
PostgreSQL server.  SSL is always accepted on a TCP/IP connection in
7.3.  Your note on the use of psql suggests that somehow SSL is the
default access method on your machine.  That does not happen for me, adn
I don't know what in your setup may be causing it.

If you never want to use SSL connections, you can turn SSL off in
postgresql.conf.  In 7.4, you will be able to use hostnossl as an access
method in pg_hba.conf.

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Re: galeon REALLY slow in loading pages

2003-10-06 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Tue, 2003-10-07 at 00:16, Clive Menzies wrote:
> I'm running the same version of galean without any noticeable
> degradation in speed.  I guess it must have been something that you've
> added or changed recently

I find that galeon, when left running for a long while, tends to get
slower and slower.  If it is closed down and restarted, it speeds up
again. 

I am using current unstable versions.

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Re: pam_pgsql problems

2003-10-06 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 21:40, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Oliver Elphick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.10.06.2214 +0200]:

> > Your note on the use of psql suggests that somehow SSL is the
> > default access method on your machine.  That does not happen for
> > me, adn I don't know what in your setup may be causing it.
> 
> Even weirder. I have definitely never changed a "default access
> method". Are you trying TCP based connections (-h localhost)?

I am.

I was running with ssl disabled.

I have set up SSL for the PostgreSQL server, and now a TCP/IP connection
to localhost uses SSL.  It seems to me then that SSL is used by default
if it is available.

So the next question is, what is pam_pgsql doing wrong?

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Re: Incorrect system time

2003-10-07 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Tue, 2003-10-07 at 22:50, Clive Menzies wrote:
> I'm not sure if this is related but I found (I'm in London on British
> Summer Time ie GMT +1) that if when configuring the base system I
> selected yes to "Set Hardware Clock to GMT", Debian would be an hour
> out.

The hardware clock should always be set to UTC (formerly GMT).

Then you should select the appropriate timezone (e.g. Europe/London).
(Consider a machine which is being used by people in different
countries; the machine has a default timezone, but each user can set a
session timezone to suit his own location:

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The only time you want the hardware clock on local time is when you are
dual-booting Windows, since Windows runs with local time in the hardware
clock.

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Re: netsaint

2003-10-07 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 16:50, Paul William wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I installed netsaint but when I access it throught my browser I get the
> following error message:
> 
> Forbidden
> You don't have permission to access /netsaint/ on this server.
> 
> I am using woody and my web server is apache. The netsaint deb made the
> needed changes to my httpd.conf.
> 

Perhaps you need to restart or reload Apache?

(I had a similar problem with phppgadmin, for which that was the
solution.)

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Re: upgrading postgres on unstable

2003-10-11 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 06:39, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
> home:/var/lib/dpkg/info# apt-get install postgresql
...
> Preconfiguring packages ...
> (Reading database ... 76051 files and directories currently installed.)
> Unpacking postgresql (from .../postgresql_7.3.4-6_i386.deb) ...
> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/postgresql_7.3.4-6_i386.deb 
> (--unpack):
>  subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 20
...
> 
> So here's my question.  How do I figure out what "exit status 20" means?
> I d/l'd the source and grepped around in preinst.in, but I couldn't
> figure it out.

First, try installing after doing:

# export DEBCONF_DEBUG=developer

because the value of the error code suggests a debconf error.  If that
doesn't help, get the preinst script as below; add set -x at line 2 and
run it (as root).  Let me know where it stops.  (You may have to extract
the debconf files and load them into the debconf database - see
debconf-devel(7) in the debugging section.)

> Secondarily, is there a place that debian stores the currently-used
> install files so that I don't have to download the whole source package
> just to find them?  It seems like /var/lib/dpkg/info only has this sort
> of thing for fully-installed packages.

You can extract it from the deb file:

ar p /var/cache/apt/archives/postgresql_7.3.4-6_i386.deb control.tar.gz
| tar xzf - ./preinst

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Debian experimental packages of PostgreSQL 7.4beta4

2003-10-10 Thread Oliver Elphick
Debian packages of PostgreSQL 7.4beta4 are available in the experimental
section of the Debian archive.

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Re: Probs Installing Testing pkgs on Woody stable

2003-10-11 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 05:34, Eric Walstad wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I'm a Debian newbie.  Please be gentle.
> 
> I've installed Woody stable and now find that I need to install:

> .html
> hostap-utils.html
> wireless-tools.html
> for a project I'm working on[1].  I think these packages are only available in 
> Debian's Sarge/Testing, but I'm not entirely clear on how to tell that for 
> sure. 

http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=hostap-source&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all

(If you have galeon, just type the package name into the debs field in
the bookmarks toolbar and it will fetch that URL for you.)

>  When I try to dpkg --install them or apt-get install them I get errors 
> to the effect that I'm going to screw with other packages if I install these.  
> Sorry, I'm at home now and don't have the command lines I issued nor the 
> error messages.

Some apt requests can be impossible to fulfil; you would need to show
the error messages.

...
> I think my problems are, and hope for help with:
> - I'm confused about apt-get vs. dpkg, when to use which and what they can and 
> can't do.  I thought that one or both would magically handle the dependencies 
> for me, installing what is needed for me even if it meant replacing packages 
> with newer, testing, versions.

apt-get will install all packages needed to fulfil your request, if it
is possible.  The command is

apt-get install package

dpkg installs a single package from a deb file:

dpkg -i /path/to/package_1.2.3-4_i386.deb

Using dpkg may leave dependencies unmet.  Apt-get uses dpkg to install
packages.

> - Should I up[grade|date] my entire installation to Sarge/Testing?  If so, 
> how?  The best I could find on Debian.org said that I should burn a minimal 
> CD and then install from the net.  Burning the CD is no trouble but, when I 
> tried to take this approch when installing Woody, it was not clear to me how 
> to specify a network install and from which site[s] the deb packages should 
> come.

I would not advise using sarge; things tend to be out of date for a long
time and non-bugginess is not guaranteed.  unstable gets problems fixed
much more quickly, though you are at the small risk of serious problems
if there are bad bugs in a package.

> - Should I just install these packages in non-debian form (from sources)?

If you do, put them in /usr/local so as not to conflict with files
installed by packages.  

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Re: PostgresSQL database recovery

2002-10-22 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Tue, 2002-10-22 at 20:06, Nils-Erik Svangård wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Yesterday my main hd gave up (40gig up in smoke), /usr and /lib was on
> another hd so they where saved.
> in /lib there seems like the data from my postgressql databas survived,
> but now when I have reinstalled and try to access the data it says data
> test2 doesnt exist (thats the old database).
> I have just copied the old files over the new installation, since its
> the same version och postgres. Im running unstable, doesanyone know how
> to use the data again??

You need to copy the whole tree of $PGDATA.  (By default, that is in
/var/lib/postgres, unless you set it to be somewhere else.)  Its
contents should look like this:

olly@linda$ sudo ls $PGDATA
PG_VERSION  global   pg_hba.confpg_xlog  postmaster.opts
basepg_clog  pg_ident.conf  postgresql.conf  postmaster.pid



To be clear, the database includes eseential files at the top level of
$PGDATA; you cannot simply copy part of the tree.


Your backup procedures should include the use of pg_dumpall to copy the
database either to another machine, or to a tape, or at least to another
disk in the same machine.

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Re: Why debian sucks.

2002-10-27 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Sun, 2002-08-11 at 04:52, Greg Ray wrote:
> Actually I like debian but I hate this list, I used to post about 7 months
> ago but then I had to sell my server. I have been trying to get off this
> list since then but it seems it is ran by a monkey or a guy who could'nt
> give a rats ass. Now I am trying the dumbass aproach and maby, just maby
> someone will kick me off.

Your problem is that, since you have changed your server,  your
unsubscribe message is coming from the wrong address.  You will have to
be removed manually.

If you are getting no response from [EMAIL PROTECTED], keep
trying them; they are very busy people.

Alternatively, arrange for all messages from the list to your old
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Re: [kosuke@rustybear.com] Re: can't kill a PID

2002-11-03 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Sun, 2002-11-03 at 12:23, Rupert wrote: 
> > > Kevin Coyner told:
> > > > I always thought that with 'kill -9 PID' you could clean up just about
> > > > any process, but I've run into one that just won't go ...
> > > > 
> > > > sakura:~$ ps aux |grep xmms
> > > > kosuke9026  0.0  0.9 14460 4932 ? D  00:16   0:00 xmms
> > > > kosuke9027  0.0  0.0 00 ? Z  00:16   0:00 [xmms ] 
> > > > 
> > > > I've tried 'kill -9 9026 9027', but every time I go back and ps/grep it,
> > > > it's still there.  And in the meantime, if I try to start a new xmms, it
> > > > will start a new PID in addition to 9026, but the program itself won't
> > > > show up.
> > > > 
> > > > Brainwashed from too many early years in the MS world, I'm tempted to
> > > > reboot.  But hoping there's a better, Linux way to clean this up.
> > > 
> > > killall -9 xmms
> > >
> > 
> > Just tried that, and the monster continues to live .
> > 
> > Kevin
> 
> I've done something along the lines of
> 
>   while killall -9 xmms; echo -n .; sleep 1; done
> 
> in the past, with varying success. 

If kill won't work, killall and the like won't; they are merely
convenient front-ends to kill a collection of process all at once.

Sometimes a process gets stuck waiting for an event that is never going
to happen.  xmms (9026), in that ps report, is in state D -
uninterruptible sleep.  It's probably waiting for some kind of IO
event.  Because it is uninterruptible, it never wakes up to find that it
has been killed, so it won't go away, even for a SIGKILL (kill -9).
Process 9027 is dead, but it won't go away until its parent (9026) wakes
up and cleans up; until then it is in state Z - zombie. 

I think you will have to reboot the machine.

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Re: repost - printing - help please

2002-11-12 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 04:44, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
> hello all!
> 
> my umpteen number of attempts to set my printer have been unsuccessful.
> 
> here is the set-up:
> 
> computer is running on woody 3.0
> 
> hp deskjet 710c printer is connected to it on lpt1 (i am using windows nomenclature)
> 
> i tried reading linuxprinting.org - could not unsderstand much
> 
> here is what confuses me:
> 
> lpd, lpr-ppd, lprng, cups, /dev/lp0 - too too confusing.

lpd = spooler daemon from the packages lpr or lprng
/dev/lp0 = hardware device for the printer
cups = modern spooling system; replacement for lpr/lprng

> what i really want to do is this:
> 
> set-up a printer (i miss windows 'add printer wizard')
> 
> be able to print basic documents from my shell and X
> 
> is it really so difficult? could someone post simple to understand list of 
>instructions?

Install packages cupsys-server, cupsys-client and cupsys-bsd.  These are
your print spooler packages.  (cupsys-bsd provides commands that are
compatible with those from lpr and lprng.)

The kernel must support use of the parallel port and printing through
it.  You need the kernel modules lp, parport and parport_pc to be
installed (or built into the kernel).  You should have lp listed in
/etc/modules, so that the module gets loaded at boot time.

If this command

echo "You should see this on paper" >/dev/lp0

does not produce anything on the printer, it probably means that the
kernel modules are not loaded; /sbin/lsmod will tell you what is
loaded.  If the modules are not present, do (as root)
/sbin/depmod -a
/sbin/modprobe lp parport_pc
to load them.  (modprobe will fail if the modules are actually built
into your kernel.)  If the modules are present or built in, and that
echo command does not work, you may have a hardware problem.

Once you know that the printer device is working, read the CUPS
documentation and set up the spooler.

Once the spooler is set up, the commands lpr (from cupsys-bsd) or lp
(from cupsys-client) can be used to print documents.  Read their
manpages.

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Re: postgresql problem in woody and sid

2002-11-18 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Mon, 2002-11-18 at 02:31, marco wrote:
> I cannot get postgresql to install :
> 
> Here is the error message:
> 
> Now installing the PostgreSQL database files in /var/lib/postgres/data
> su - postgres -c cd /var/lib/postgres; . ./.bash_profile; LANG=C initdb 
> --encoding UNICODE --pgdata /var/lib/postgres/data
> -su: initdb: command not found
...
> 
> I played around with the .profile and .bash_profile in /var/lib/postgres 
> which were both not exporting the PATH but this did not help.

~postgres/.bash_profile should contain:

. /etc/postgresql/postmaster.conf
PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/lib/postgresql/bin
PGDATA=${POSTGRES_DATA:-/var/lib/postgres/data}
PGLIB=/usr/lib/postgresql/lib
    export PGLIB PGDATA


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Re: How can I make root filesystem read-only?

2002-11-21 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 10:36, Hiroki Horiuchi wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> My /etc/fstab is like below.
> 
> /dev/sda1 / ext2 errors=remount-ro 0 1
> /dev/sdb1 none  swap sw0 0
> /dev/sdc1 /tmp  ext2 defaults  0 2
> /dev/sdd1 /var  ext2 defaults  0 3
> /dev/sde1 /home ext2 defaults  0 4
> 
> I am trying to make the root filesystem including /usr subdirectory
> read-only. But, if I set the mount option of / to ro, system cannot boot.
> Making only /usr read-only is not enought for me.
> Cannot root filesystem be read-only?

In effect, no.

For example, /etc must be in the root filesystem and mount writes to
/etc/mtab

Perhaps you could arrange to have a RAM disk for root?  (See initrd.)

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  another.  By this shall all men know that ye are my 
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Re: Tora & PostgreSQL

2002-11-24 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Sun, 2002-11-24 at 19:17, Christophe Courtois wrote:
>  Hi,
> 
>  I've tried TORA from both woody and sarge, but after launching it, it 
> always says "No enabled connection provider, plugin probably missing". 
> No base or connection can ce selected after that.
> 
>  Although it seems everybody is there : 
>  christ@choupi:/usr/lib/qt3/plugins/sqldrivers$ ll
> -rw-r--r--1 root root86200 2002-03-29 22:11 
> libqsqlodbc.so
> -rw-r--r--1 root root47644 2002-04-24 06:45 
> libqsqlpsql.so
> 
>  I've got a similar plugin-mt directory too (don't know the 
> difference). I've set this directory in the OPtions box, without any 
> result.

Judging by my setup (which works) the plugin directory should be
/usr/lib/tora.  There should be a symbolic link there to
/usr/lib/qt3/plugins/sqldrivers/libqsqlpsql.so
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Re: Calculator for X

2002-11-26 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 11:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> I might be totally stupid, but when I do a dselect, I just cannot find
> a calculator for an X-Window system. The only module I've found is
> named 'calc', but dosn't work in an X-window system, does it??

gnome-calculator   is in   gnome-utils
xcalc  is in   xbase-clients
kcalc      is in   kcalc

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Re: kernel building for newbies

2002-11-29 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Sat, 2002-11-30 at 00:44, Caitrin Torres wrote:
> Can anyone recommend a tutorial or howto on debian kernel building 
> that'd be suitable for someone who's never built a kernel before? I 
> have an external CD burner that is supposed to use the bpck6 module. 
> A search confirmed that it's a part of the kernel-image and 
> kernel-headers packages, but I'm not entirely sure what to *do* with 
> those packages or what else I need.
> 
> Also, is there anything to be gained by switching from 2.4.18 to 
> 2.4.19 while I'm at it? This is my home computer, not a production 
> machine, but I still don't want to upgrade if there isn't a good 
> reason.

Install the "kernel-package" package and study its documentation.
It is designed to build kernel packages for Debian.

Install a kernel-source package to build from.


As for a kernel-image package: install it, check /etc/lilo.conf, run
lilo and reboot.

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IDE disks won't interoperate

2002-12-01 Thread Oliver Elphick
Situation:

I have a 6Gb 2.5" drive from a laptop, that won't boot in the laptop and
has been replaced by a 10Gb drive. (The old disk is Hitachi DK228A-65,
and the new is DK23BA-10.)

The laptop repairers copied the Windows partition but couldn't handle
the ext2 partitions.  I need to get those partitions onto the new laptop
disk.

I mounted the old 6Gb drive in a desktop pc (running woody, with kernel
2.4.18-k7) as /dev/hdd and copied the files from the ext2 partitions
onto another disk.

Then I put the 10Gb disk onto /dev/hdd, intending to copy back on to
it.  However, the machine won't boot with it there; I get complaints
about lost interrupts.  (The drive is correctly jumpered as a slave,
according to the instructions printed on it.)

From dmesg:
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio
hda: QUANTUM FIREBALLlct10 10, ATA DISK drive
hdb: Conner Peripherals 1080MB - CFS1081A, ATA DISK drive
hdc: IDE/ATAPI CD-ROM 50XS, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: 20044080 sectors (10263 MB) w/418KiB Cache, CHS=19885/16/63, UDMA(33)
hdb: 2114180 sectors (1082 MB), CHS=2097/16/63, DMA

On booting, if /dev/hdd is present, the BIOS may complain:

Primary IDE channel no 80 conductor cable installed
Secondary IDE channel no 80 conductor cable installed

and refuse to boot.  Last time, I got round this by auto-detecting each
of the four drives, but the BIOS settings seem to get lost.  If I boot
without the drive; then put it back in and boot again, it shows as 2Gb
instead of 10Gb and needs to be autodetected again.  (At the moment it
won't boot at all with that drive in.)

Can anyone suggest what the problem is and how I can get round it.

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Re: How stable is SiD ?

2003-09-05 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 14:27, Joris Lambrecht wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Can anyone advise on starting to use SiD as resource for my Debian
> Workstation ? Doesn't it have to many issues left open, broken
> dependencies etc.

If the dependencies are broken, apt won't load the broken packages.

I use sid all the time, and rarely have problems, but if you don't feel
competent to deal with possible problems, stay with woody.

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Re: sudo: howto ls directories, &c ???

2003-09-05 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 21:56, Michael D Schleif wrote:
> Consider this scenario, whereby sudo *cannot* seem to facilitate
> necessary access:

># ls -al /var/log/exim/rejectlog*
>ls: /var/log/exim/rejectlog*: Permission denied

Here the user does not have permission to read the contents of
/var/log/exim

># sudo ls -al /var/log/exim/rejectlog*
>ls: /var/log/exim/rejectlog*: No such file or directory

This time, sudo would allow you to read /var/log/exim, but the wildcard
in rejectlog* is interpreted by the shell _before_ sudo executes.  The
user does not have permission, so the shell finds no files to match the
wildcard, so it passes it through unchanged.  Now sudo is effectively
running ls -al '/var/log/exim/rejectlog*' (no interpretation by the
shell, because no shell is being run) and of course no such file exists.

># sudo -u mail ls -al /var/log/exim/rejectlog*
>ls: /var/log/exim/rejectlog*: No such file or directory

Same again here.

> Occasionally, I run into similar glitches using sudo.  I want to better
> define, in my own head, what can and cannot be done under sudo; and, how
> best to _always_ avoid su to root.
> 
> What do you think?

sudo sh -c "ls -al /var/log/exim/rejectlog*"

so that you start a shell which can interpret the wildcard as root.  The
quotes protect the wildcard from being interpreted by the user's shell.

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Re: problem updating postgresql package

2003-09-05 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 00:35, Malcolm Warren wrote:
> Got the following message updating postgresql to 7.3.2
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Unpacking postgresql (from .../postgresql_7.3.2r1-5_i386.deb) ...
> dpkg: error processing 
> /var/cache/apt/archives/postgresql_7.3.2r1-5_i386.deb (--unpack):
>   subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 128
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>   /var/cache/apt/archives/postgresql_7.3.2r1-5_i386.deb
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
> 
> 
> Any help welcome.

I need to see what the error was, so you must modify the preinst
script in the package and put a trace in it.  This is a bit complicated
since it is the preinstallation script that is failing and it is only in
the deb:

# mkdir /tmp/pg
# cd /tmp
# ar x /var/cache/apt/archives/postgresql_7.3.2r1-5_i386.deb control.tar.gz
# cd /tmp/pg
# tar xzf ../control.tar.gz
# vi ./preinst
Add the line "set -x" at line 2 of the script and file it.
# tar czf ../control.tar.gz .
# cd ..
# ar r /var/cache/apt/archives/postgresql_7.3.2r1-5_i386.deb control.tar.gz
# dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/postgresql_7.3.2r1-5_i386.deb

Now when it fails, we should know roughly what it was trying to do.

(FYI, 7.3.4 is now in unstable.)

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Re: Similar app for Disk Catalog?

2003-09-06 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 23:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> There's this handly tool:
> http://www.rob.cybercomm.nl/diskcat/index.html
> I found for windows, is there an app similar to this? It basically scans
> cd's, directories for filenames/directories and catalogs them, it then
> saves the database into a file for viewing/searching using the tool. 

Something like this (using PostgreSQL)?

$ psql -d mydatabase -c "CREATE TABLE diskcat (directory text not null,
file text not null, primary key (directory, file))"

$ for f in `find mydirectory -type f`
  do
echo -e "`dirname $f`\t`basename $f`"
  done | psql -d mydatabase -c "COPY diskcat FROM STDIN"

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Re: Postgresql: pg_dumpall

2003-06-17 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Sun, 2003-06-15 at 15:12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I use Postgresql 7.2.1-2woody2 which is currently included in the Woody
> distribution.
> I tried to use /usr/lib/postgresql/dumpall/pg_dumpall, but it doesnt work at
> all.

That program is copied from the previous installed version in order to
automate the upgrade procedure.  Once you have successfully upgraded,
all the contents of /usr/lib/postgresql/dumpall/ can be deleted.

...
> Is the pg_dumpall, which is bundled with Woody broken or why
> doesnt it work? Wrong Version?

You need to use /usr/lib/postgresql/bin/pg_dumpall.  If you log in (or
su -) as postgres, this should be in your path.

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PostgerSQL 7.3 packages for woody

2002-12-13 Thread Oliver Elphick
Packages of PostgreSQL 7.3 built for woody are available at
http://people.debian.org/~elphick

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Re: PostgerSQL 7.3 packages for woody

2002-12-13 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 16:20, eric lin wrote:
> Oliver Elphick wrote:
> > Packages of PostgreSQL 7.3 built for woody are available at
> > http://people.debian.org/~elphick
> > 
> when I do apt-get isntall postgresql
> 
> it finaaly response error
> 
> Setting up postgresql (7.3rel-7) ...
> initdb: pg_encoding failed
...
> please help

This is a new one...

First of all, can you do this:

$ /usr/lib/postgresql/bin/pg_encoding 2
EUC_CN

If that is OK, try (as user postgres):

$ pg_encoding 2

If that fails, the search path is wrong; /etc/postgresql/postgresql.env
(from package postgresql-client) needs to be sourced by postgres's
.profile


If that works, make sure $PGDATA is empty and owned by postgres, or
non-existent and able to be created by postgres.  Then (change C and
SQL_ASCII to suit your site):

$ LANG=C initdb --debug --pgdata $PGDATA --encoding SQL_ASCII 

This will produce a lot of output, but it should indicate what is going
wrong.  Post the relevant bits.

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Re: Cron problem

2002-12-13 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 11:58, Ludwig wrote:
> This only started a week or two ago:  I've been getting emails from the
> cron daemon indicating a problem with /etc/crontab or cron itself.  I've
> tried using crontab to regenerate /etc/crontab, and purging and
> reinstalling cron, and but am still getting the following:

The problem is not with cron itself.

> From: Cron Daemon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and reinstalling, and dns.org
> Subject: Cron  roottest -e
> /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily

This is the command it was trying to run


So run "/bin/run-parts --verbose  /etc/cron.daily" and see where the
error is occurring.  Then take the offending scripts from
/etc/cron.daily/* and turn on debugging (for example add set -x near the
top of the script) so that you can see what is going wrong.

Then report a bug against the appropriate package.

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Re: PostgerSQL 7.3 packages for woody

2002-12-13 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Sat, 2002-12-14 at 02:57, eric lin wrote:
> Oliver Elphick wrote:
...
> > If that is OK, try (as user postgres):
> > 
> > $ pg_encoding 2
> > 
> > If that fails, the search path is wrong; /etc/postgresql/postgresql.env
> > (from package postgresql-client) needs to be sourced by postgres's
> > .profile
> 
> this step I failed, both as root and end-user,
> so how should I modify?(at /etc/postgresql/postgresql.env  ? or anywhere 
> to do anything?)

You need a file in the home directory of postgres to load its
environment.

Become user postgres

Use your favourite editor, such as vi, to edit the profile for postgres:

$ vi ~postgres/.profile

The contents of the file should look like this:

. /etc/postgresql/postmaster.conf
PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/lib/postgresql/bin
PGDATA=${POSTGRES_DATA:-/var/lib/postgres/data}
PGLIB=/usr/lib/postgresql/lib
export PGLIB PGDATA

After you have done that, logout of postgres and log into it again.  You
should then be able to do:

$ pg_encoding 2

If that works, log out of postgres, become superuser and retry the
installation of postgresql:

# dpkg --pending --configure


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Re: probable newbie cannot get X to run (Was: no subject)

2002-12-27 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Fri, 2002-12-27 at 00:49, Seneca wrote:
> Before my reply, I have a message for Bear. Please configure Outlook to
> send messages in plain text (not HTML) and add a meaningful subject
> line. You are more likely to get a response from a real person that way.
> Please also check the spelling in your messages, which can be important
> when referring to file names (with file systems like ext2, even the case
> of it can make a difference; XF86Config is a config file, xf86config is
> a configurator, and XF86config does not exist).
> 
> On Thu, Dec 26, 2002 at 04:11:46PM -0800, Bear wrote:
> > I have tried to reconfigure to get x windows to run, plus tried reload
> > of the entire system to get x windows to run, but x windows still does
> > not work. I am getting the following error
> > 
> > _x11 TransSockectUnix Connect Can't connect errno = 111
> > 
> > unable to communicate with xsever
> 
> Is your xserver installed and running? What is the output of startx? Are
> all the packages necessary for X to run installed? The packages that are
> generally required/useful for a desktop machine are:
> 
>   0) xserver-xfree86
>   1) xserver-common
>   2) xfree86-common
>   3) xfonts-base
>   4) xfonts-scalable
>   5) xfonts-75dpi or xfonts-100dpi
>   6) xlibs
>   7) xbase-clients
>   8) xterm
>   9) a window manager
> 
> > the/ect/x111/XF86 config file was not created
>  ^^-> should be /etc/X11/XF86Config
>  
> Run the command:
> 
>   # dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
> 
> The '#' at the beginning of the command refers to the prompt. As it is
> '#', run the command as root. If the prompt were '$', then the command
> would be run as an ordinary user.
> 
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Re:

2002-12-27 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Fri, 2002-12-27 at 00:11, Bear wrote:
> I have tried to reconfigure to get x windows to run, plus tried reload
> of the entire system to get x windows to run, but x windows still does
> not work. I am getting the following error
> 
> _x11 TransSockectUnix Connect Can’t connect errno = 111
> 
> unable to communicate with xsever

error 111 indicates a permissions problem.  

You need to say more about what you are doing.  

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Re: apt-get upgrade (potato -> woody) dependency problem?

2002-12-31 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Tue, 2002-12-31 at 04:14, will trillich wrote:
> couldn't get the ~elphick/postgresql apt thingie to work, so i'm

I think that is now fixed.  Please, let me know.

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Re: Can you install programs without apt packages?

2002-12-31 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Tue, 2002-12-31 at 19:09, Scott wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
> I am fairly new to the Linux world and am going through all of the 
> documentation and installation info for Debian 3.0. 
> 
> I will have a system that is going to be offline and probably never 
> connected to the internet.  Am I going to be able to choose source files and 
> tarballs, etc. to compile on this system offline, or am I going to be 
> screwed on updating since I will not have an internet connection on it for a 
> while? 

You can compile anything you like, though without a net connection you
will obviously be limited to things you can get from other sources.  For
Debian packages, you can use apt with a local repository or a set of
CDs.

> Just curious, as I don't see this in the docs or forums.  I see everyone 
> loving apt-get and Gentoo's portage, but that is not going to work on my 
> current setup.  In the future, yes, but I don't know how long it will be. 

If you have a bare package file (foo*.deb) you can install it directly
with dpkg, though you may have to spend time tracking down dependencies
and acquiring the relevant packages.

You can use alien to convert a tarball or rpm into a Debian pacakge
(results NOT guaranteed!), or you can compile from source and install in
/usr/local (to avoid conflicts with packages).

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Re: Upgrade to Snort 1.9.0

2003-01-03 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 18:29, Stefan Drees wrote:
> Hello,
> im working with debian since three months (coming from suse) and its great.
> But now i need to upgrade snort 1.8.7 (from testing) to 1.9.0 because there
> are no more rule files for 1.8.X.
> 
> So i have looked in unstable and found out, that i must upgrade to libpcap
> 0.7,
> libc6-2.2.5-13 and libdb1-compat 2.1.3-7.
> libdb1-compat 2.1.3-7 seems to be ok, no problems listed.
> libpcap 0.7 seems to be ok, no "critical" problems listed only a missing
> link to libpcap.so.0.
> libc6-2.2.5-13 has many listed bugs and other problems. => problem => system
> stable?
> 
> I need snort 1.9.0 but i want the system to be stable. Hope someone can help
> me, how to do it.

If you don't want to pull in the dependencies, you will have to build it
from source, something like this:

# apt-get devscripts fakeroot
$ cd .../src
$ apt-get source snort
$ cd snort-1.9.0
$ debuild

That will create a package in .../src, which you can then install:

# dpkg -i .../src/snort_1.9.0*deb

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Re: Upgrade to Snort 1.9.0

2003-01-03 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 18:55, Oliver Elphick wrote:
> If you don't want to pull in the dependencies, you will have to build it
> from source, something like this:
> 
> # apt-get devscripts fakeroot

I forgot to mention that this needs a source entry for unstable in
/etc/apt/sources.list, such as:

deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free

And do an `apt-get update' before running `apt-get source'.

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How does one use debugging library packages?

2003-01-15 Thread Oliver Elphick
I have libgtk1.2-dbg installed; it contains /usr/lib/debug/libgtk.so and
libgtk-1.2.so.0*, which contain debugging symbols.

I have not found a way to get these libraries used in preference to the
standard ones in /usr/lib.  I had thought of using -rpath, but gcc 3.2
does not seem to contain that option.

In the end I had to copy the debug libraries into /usr/lib.

What is the proper way to do it?

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Re: PS/2 vs Serial mouse.

1999-06-05 Thread Oliver Elphick
Fu-Dong Chiou wrote:
  >Hi,
  >
  >I have a question regarding using a Logitech cordless MouseMan Pro PS/2 
  >mouse on a Compaq LTE 5200 notebook.  Although it is a PS/2 mouse, I can 
  >only hook it up to COM1 to get it to work in X.  If I plug it into PS/2 
  >port, the cursor won't move.  I assume it's because ttyS0 is taken by 
  >COM1 and not PS/2 port.  Can anyone tell me if this is the case, and 
  >which one is for PS/2, or will the mouse work as a PS/2 mouse?  I am 
  >using "MouseMan" as the mouse protocal.  Thanks!
 
The device to use for PS/2 is /dev/psaux, not ttyS0.

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Re: Setting software clock (gmt)

1999-06-05 Thread Oliver Elphick
Chris Frost wrote:
  >
  >--dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx
  >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
  >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  >
  >I'd like to have a box setup so that it's hardware clock is set to gmt,
  >while in software the box presents the time in the local time (central
  >fwiw); how would I do this? Is there a pre-setup way to account for
  >daylight savings time, or should I either do it manually or through cron?
 
Use tzconfig to set up your timezone, which is best defined by the nearest
city in the same zone (so mine is Europe/London).  Use date to set the
system time to the correct local time.  Then use `hwclock --systohc --utc'
to set the hardware clock to UTC (= GMT).

(All as root, of course.)

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Re: Newbie trouble: How to log on as "root"

1999-06-07 Thread Oliver Elphick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  >How do I change from user to root when Linux by default asks for my "user"
  >password on startup?

root is another username, that happens to have special privileges.

To log in as root, use the name `root' when you are asked to log in, and
then give the password that you were asked to assign to root (the superuser)
while you were installing the base system.  When you type `exit' or ctrl-d
you are returned to the login prompt.

If you are already logged in, you can use the command `su -' to become
root, as if you had logged in directly as root.  This command prompts you
for the superuser password.  When you type `exit' or ctrl-d you are
returned to your own session.

  >Is it possible to change the user-privileges to allow me a large degree of
  >freedom within the system as "user" (suppose it is, but how?!)

It is possible, but undesirable to do this.  Part of the reason for not
operating as root is to protect yourself from your own mistakes.  If you
are root, it is perfectly possible to wipe out your system with a few
keystrokes.

I recommend you to read the Debian Tutorial, which is available via a link
on the Debian Documentation Project page at www.debian.org/~elphick/ddp/.
There is a lot of information in the Tutorial for people like yourself who
need to learn basic Unix stuff.

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Re: Kernel Panic (RE: kernel too big)

1999-06-08 Thread Oliver Elphick
"Camilo Alejandro Arboleda" wrote:
  >Thanks to every one for the help with my first problem.
  >
  >Finaly I could compile the new kernel, but I could not start the system
  >with the new kernel.
  >
  >I get this message:
  >'kernel panic: no init found.   Try passing init = option to kernel'
  >
  >What is the value of 'option'?
  >How I pass this value to the kernel?

You should never need to do so.  By default, /sbin/init is run.  If this
is suddenly not available to your kernel, it suggests that you have not
included support for your hard disk in the kernel.  (Your root disk
support cannot be a module; it must be in the kernel itself.)

My guess is that the BIOS is loading your kernel, but the kernel doesn't
know how to read the disk.

Do your boot messages from the kernel suggest that it is finding the hard
disk? Look for references to /dev/hda, or /dev/sda if it's SCSI.

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Re: exmh question

1999-06-09 Thread Oliver Elphick
trapstep wrote:
  >Hi!
  >
  >i now use exmh for my mails, but i miss a "sent-mail" folder :-( doesn't exm
  >h 
  >save the mails i send? if yes, where will i find them and if no, is there a 
  >way to automatically send me a copy of all outgoing mail?
 
You can do it on a one-off basis by adding
Fcc: folder
to the mail headers.

To do this for every mail you send, you need to create a components file
in your ~/Mail directory (and a replcomps and forwcomps file, too).

components is used when you press the Comp button (or do comp in a text
window); forwcomps is used for Forward and replcomps for Reply.  These files
set up your headers to your personal taste.

My files look like this:

 components 
X-URL: http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver
X-face: "xUFVDj+ZJtL_IbURmI}!~xAyPC"Mrk=MkAm&tPQnNq(FWxv49R}\>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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X-face: "xUFVDj+ZJtL_IbURmI}!~xAyPC"Mrk=MkAm&tPQnNq(FWxv49R}\\>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 KMLl*!h}B)[EMAIL PROTECTED]|B}6%>%>)\
%<(nonnull)%(void(width))%(putaddr To: )\n%>\
%<(mymbox{to})%|%(lit)%(formataddr{to})%(formataddr{cc})\
%<(nonnull)%(void(width))%(putaddr cc: )\n%>%>\
cc:
Fcc: fcc
%<{subject}Subject: Re: %{subject}\n%>\
In-reply-to: Message from %<{from}%{from}%|%{sender}%>\n\
   of %<(nodate{date})%{date}%|%(pretty{date})%>.%<{message-id}\
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Re: ipacset

1999-06-12 Thread Oliver Elphick
Alisdair McDiarmid wrote:
  >> > Cron continues to mail me every six minutes with this message.
  >> > Has anyone got any idea why, or how to stop it?
  >> > 
  >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cron Daemon)
  >> > Subject: Cron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  test -f /etc/ipac.conf && test -f
  >> > /usr/sbin/fetchipac
  >> > +&& /usr/sbin/fetchipac
  >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >> > /usr/sbin/fetchipac: Cant read "/var/run/ip-accounting-rules" - ipacset 
  >not
  >> > run?
...
  >It tells me that the Cron Daemon is looking for something to do
  >with ip-accounting-rules every six minutes, not finding it and
  >emailing me to say so, and very little else.
  >
  >I don't know what ip-accounting rules are. Heck, I don't even
  >know what ip-accounting is.

To find out where the command is, look at /etc/crontab and /etc/cron.d/*
for a line that contains
   `test -f /etc/ipac.conf && test -f /usr/sbin/fetchipac'

To find out about the package that contains fetchipac or ip-accounting-rules
do dpkg -S fetchipac.  That will tell you the name of the package (I don't
have it installed, whatever it is).  Then you can research the package
and find out how to create a /var/run/ip-accounting-rules that satisfies
it.  From the message, it rather looks as if you need to run ipacset; so
`man ipacset' might be a good start.

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Re: libXt.a, libX11.a

1999-06-20 Thread Oliver Elphick
"Eric G . Miller" wrote:
  >Hello,
  > I'm trying to compile GRASS, but it wants these X libraries: libXt.a & 
  >libX11.a.  Unfortunately, they don't exist.  I do have libXt.so.6 and li
  >bX11.so.  Question: Would rewriting the config script so it uses the Elf
  > shared libraries as opposed to the "ar" type libraries work?  If not, w
  >here can I get the "ar" type libraries?

They are in package xlib6g-static

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Re: Kernel Panick: VFS: Unable to mount root.fs on 16:02

1999-06-25 Thread Oliver Elphick
Johann Spies wrote:
  >I got this message after recompiling my kernel and I cannot find out what
  >is causing it.  I have a single computer that uses a dialup ppp connection
  >to the ISP.
  >
  >Before the error message in the subject line there were two other error
  >lines:
  >
  >request_module[block-major-22]: root fs not mounted
  >VFS: Cannot open device 16:02.
 
That says you're trying to mount /dev/hdc2 as your root partition, and are
failing.  Is that what is meant to be happening?


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Re: more fetchmail questions

1999-06-26 Thread Oliver Elphick
Chris Flipse wrote:
...
  >I say until now because I hadn't noticed my setup's behavior where
  >bounced mail is concerned -- basically, fetchmail grabs the mail, shunts
  >it to my local sendmail deamon, and tries to deliver it.  
  >
  >The problem is that when sendmail cannot deliver it, it sends out a
  >bounce message, and the fetchmail client terminates the fetch, since it
  >is unable to deliver the mail.  Which is fine, and desireable behavior.
  >What isn't desireable is that fetchmail leaves the offending piece of
  >mail on the server, to be bounced *again* the next time fetchmail is
  >run.
  >
  >So, basically ... how on earth do I get rid of a piece of mail from my
  >server when my local sendmail can't deliver it?
 
What I have done in a like case was to connect to the server with telnet
on the pop-3 port and delete the message by hand.  It goes something like
this:

telnet mail-server pop-3 #  connect to the server
user   # give it your username
pass   # give it your password
retr 1 # assuming message 1 is the problem
   # this should let you see the message
dele 1 # delete it
quit   # quit!

Check the RFC's for the correct syntax; once you are connected, you may
be able to say `help' - I can't remember.

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Re: postgresql errors after upgrade

1999-07-01 Thread Oliver Elphick
Pollywog wrote:
  >Every time Postgresql gets upgraded, I get these errors:
  >
  >On 01-Jul-99 Cron Daemon wrote:
  >> Connection to database 'template1' failed.
  >> connectDB() -- connect() failed: Connection refused
  >> Is the postmaster running at 'localhost' and accepting connections on Unix
  >> socket '5432'?
  >
  >Ouch!!  What can I do to fix this, other than uninstalling postgresql?
 
You may have to start up the postmaster yourself (there are problems with
su from pam-apps):

  /etc/init.d/postgresql start

If that doesn't work, you will need to give more information.

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  every way, just as we are-yet was without sin."   
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sendmail - cannot email out from a laptop with no DNS?

1999-07-04 Thread Oliver Elphick
Can anyone help, please, with this problem?

I use a laptop at a customer's site, and when I am there, my laptop is
configured as if it were one of their own machines and is listed in their
/etc/hosts; they do not run DNS.  Their mailserver is running Microsoft
Exchange(?); I can download mail with POP3 and am supposed to be able to
upload mail with SMTP.  However, in every configuration I have tried,
including specifying the IP address directly in the "To:" address, sendmail
defers the mail, saying that it is unable to resolve the reference.

/etc/nsswitch contains only "files"; the "dns" word is commented out. I have 
made sure that the SMTP server is listed in my /etc/hosts; this is the same
host from which I successfully get mail with fetchmail (POP-3 protocol).


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Re: What provides glib.h?

1999-07-18 Thread Oliver Elphick
...
  >You have glib.h. The error is saying it cannot find glibconfig.h. I had the
  >same problem just now. A search yields:
  >
  >$ dpkg -S glibconfig.h
  >libglib1.2-dev: /usr/lib/glib/include/glibconfig.h
  >
  >So the answer to this is to add /usr/lib/glib/include to our include paths.

For portability in compiling gtk+ programs, use gtk-config:

$ gtk-config --cflags
-I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/lib/glib/include

$ gtk-config --libs  
-L/usr/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -rdynamic -lgmodule -lglib -ldl -lXi 
-lXext -lX11 -lm

include these in your Makefile something like this:
LIBS += `gtk-config --libs`
CFLAGS += `gtk-config --cflags`

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Re: postgres install error from apt

1999-07-19 Thread Oliver Elphick
Pollywog wrote:
  >
  >
  >Does anyone know what the problem might be?
  >
  >
  >running dpkg --pending --configure
  >...
  >Setting up postgresql-pl (6.5-3) ...
  >Enabling the PL procedural language in all PostgreSQL databases...
  >Could not execv /usr/lib/postgresql/bin/psql
  >Cannot select databases
  >dpkg: error processing postgresql-pl (--configure):
  > subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
  >Errors were encountered while processing:
  > postgresql-pl
 
There was a filename clash between libpgsql2 and a previous release of 
postgresql.  You will probably find that libpgsql2 is not properly
installed.  This was because the psql executable was moved between the two
packages and I seem to have messed up the procedure slightly.  psql is used
by postgresql-pl's postinst script, which is why you have this problem.

Make sure that libpgsql2 is properly installed (which will work fine the
second time around), and you will then be able to configure postgresql-pl.

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Re: postgres install error from apt

1999-07-19 Thread Oliver Elphick
Pollywog wrote:
  >
  >On 19-Jul-99 Oliver Elphick wrote:
  >>  
  >> There was a filename clash between libpgsql2 and a previous release of
  >> postgresql.  You will probably find that libpgsql2 is not properly
  >> installed.  This was because the psql executable was moved between the two
  >> packages and I seem to have messed up the procedure slightly.  psql is use
  >d
  >> by postgresql-pl's postinst script, which is why you have this problem.
  >> 
  >> Make sure that libpgsql2 is properly installed (which will work fine the
  >> second time around), and you will then be able to configure postgresql-pl.
  >
  >I know the problem is related to postgresql-pl, as you said.  I have removed
  >it.  I will purge libpgsql2 and then install the most recent version.
 
You only need to reinstall the copy you have got; the problem is a
temporary one caused by the order of upgrading.  If dpkg attempted to
install libpgsql2 before postgresql, the problem occurred.  Once postgresql
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Re: find -exec

1998-07-29 Thread Oliver Elphick
Ulisses Alonso wrote:
  >
  >Hi all
  >
  >I would like to know if there is a way to make something like this
  >
  >find  -exec command1 {} | command2 \; 
 
I take it you want to run the pipeline `command1 | command2' on each file.

I don't think you can do this with find's own command line; the easiest way
is probably to write a little script and execute that instead:

myscript:

#! /bin/bash
if [ -z "$1" ]
then
echo No parameter
exit 1
fi
command1 $1 | command2



chmod a+x myscript



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Re: Trouble With Simple Thing.

1998-07-30 Thread Oliver Elphick
Chris Wong wrote:
  >Hello,
  >
  > I'm sorta new to Debian.. and I was wondering if anyone could help
  >me with limiting users to their own directory. I've read docs about it,
  >but still can't get it working. Anyone help? Thanks.
  >

I don't understand what you want to do.

The normal state of affairs is that users can go anywhere in the file
system.  It is possible to use permissions to restrict access to some
directories; for example you may have a private directory under your
home directory, to which you deny access to anyone else.

For information on permissions and their use see <http://www.debian.org/~hp/tut
orial/debian-tutorial.html/ch-files.html>;
for detailed information, use `man chmod' and `man 2 chmod'.

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Re: [off-topic] out of mailing lists .....

1998-09-19 Thread Oliver Elphick
Nuno Carvalho wrote:
  >Hi,
  >
  > Sorry, about this mail, but is the second or third time that I stop from
  >getting mail from debian-user, debian-devel and debian-changes mailing
  >lists! To resolve it I need to subscribe again! :(
  >
  > Had this happened to someone else !?

Yes.  Any time my ISP screws up, I get dropped.  This seems to be because
the list server counts the number of bounced messages rather than the length
of time that a recipient cannot be contacted.  So a high volume list
like -devel or -user will drop you within a couple of hours.

Can this be changed to measure the length of time that an address fails -
say 2 days?  


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Re: A Cry For Help

1998-05-12 Thread Oliver Elphick
Bert Conliffe wrote:
...
  > Now that I have the basic Debian installed what do I do?
  >
I have a chapter for the yet unreleased user manual on the subject of
basic commands.

You can read this at http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver/user.html.

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Re: Debian 2 frozen problems

1998-05-15 Thread Oliver Elphick
W Paul Mills wrote:
  >On Wed, 13 May 1998, Eddie Seymour wrote:
  >> My /usr/lost+found directory has numerous "#12345" type files. Can't
  >> seem to find way to remove them. Permissions start with c,s, or b.
  >> Chmod doesn't reference this.

These are not real `files' but device pointers.

c = character device
s = socket
b = block device


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Re: segmentation fault with glimpseindex

1998-05-21 Thread Oliver Elphick
Thomas Vaughan wrote:
  >
  >After investigating the segmentation fault that I have observed in
  >the e-mail report from cron.weekly, I ran glimpseindex by hand and
  >observed the following output.
...
  >Is there an easy way for me to fix this, or is it a bug that needs to
  >be addressed?

There's an easy fix, which I reported to the bugs database; however I
have had no response from the maintainer.  Check the bugs database
because I can't remember the details.

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Re: [saioa@jet.es: hamm,bo...?]

1998-05-22 Thread Oliver Elphick
Liran Zvibel wrote:
...
  >non-free -- (I'm not sure whether I'm correct) Are packages that can not
  >be freely distributed, but can be used by individuals.

Packages that do not meet the Debian Social Contract Guidelines; they may
or may not be free to use, or even distribute.  If a package is in non-free
you have to check its licensing terms to see what you can do with it.
  >
  >contrib -- Free packages that needs packages from non-free to operate.
  >
  >non-us -- Those are packages that the government of the U.S doesn't let
  >distribute in the U.S. (mostly crypto stuff).

Packages that cannot be *exported* from USA. 
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Is this a compiler error?

1998-05-23 Thread Oliver Elphick
 object, Intel 80386, 
version 1, stripped
/lib/libdl-2.0.7.so:  ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, 
version 1, stripped
/lib/libreadline.so.2.1:  ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, 
version 1, stripped
/usr/lib/libhistory.so.2.1:   ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, 
version 1, stripped

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Re: Is this a compiler error?

1998-05-24 Thread Oliver Elphick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  >On Sat, May 23, 1998 at 08:54:35PM +0200, Oliver Elphick wrote:
  >> +++
  >> linda:~/cprogs/priory$ ldd prdb 
  >> prdb: error in loading shared libraries
  >> prdb: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
  >> +++
  >> (why did that not work, while the next command did? it is the same executa
  >ble)
  >
  >No. Not necessarily. ldd has a weird method of searching, where the current
  >directory is the last in the search path. So if there is a "prdb" in the
  >search path, but outside the current dir, you get the results of ldd on
  >that.
  
In this case, there is only one file; it is not a case of two different
executables being found.

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Attempting to install on Dell 433/M

1998-05-25 Thread Oliver Elphick
I'm attempting to install the 2.0.6 disk image on a Dell 433/M (486 processor).
This machine appears to have VGA video integrated on the motherboard. It has
a mono monitor.

The machine has an Adaptec 1510 or 1520 SCSI card and one SCSI disk.

I have tested the boot disk on another machine, and I have read it on this
machine (which currently has SCO Unix on it), so I know that this disk is OK.

It displays 'Loading root.bin...' and then blanks the screen (which does not
happen on the other, non-Dell machine on which I tested this disk.)

The floppy continues to be read for a while; I think that it is probably
getting as far as the first screen of the installation, but the screen
continues blank. I have tried entering `M' and `C' at this point, but 
without success.

Has anyone any suggestions on how to get round this, please?  Are there any
boot options I can include to change the behaviour of the machine?


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Re: Enabling XDM on Debian Linux

1998-05-26 Thread Oliver Elphick
Yugesh Ramsaha wrote:
  > I read the FAQOMATIC on about How to enable
  >xdm and
  >there it is said that I should uncomment a few lines in the file
  >/usr/X11/config -- now this
  >file is not there on my system and moreover it does not seem to play a
  >major in the
  >booting process .

That should be /etc/X11/config.  If that does not exist, reinstall xbase.
[Sounds as though that faq-o-matic needs editing...]

  >  After reading the debian documentation , I understand
  >that I should put
  >all scripts to be executed at boottime in /etc/init.d and then create a
  >symbolic link to it in
  >the /etc/rcN.d directory where N is the default runlevel in the file
  >/etc/inittab.I'm really
  >confused here and I no longer know what to do.

Too right! You *don't* need to do this; it is done automatically by
the package installation scripts.  Delete whatever you have put in
there and definitely reinstall xbase.  The documentation you have been
reading correctly describes what happens; your mistake is in thinking
that *you* have to do it.

  >   I tried placing xdm in the
  >directory
  >/etc/init.d and a symbolic link to it in /etc/rcN.d. At first it seems
  >to work , but every time
  >I put my login and password , it returns to the xlogin widget each
  >time.

You have put xdm itself in place of the script that should be controlling
it.

If you ever think you need to perform such convoluted exercises on any
package, think again.  Any such package would be so broken as to be
unusable.  A package ought to install straight off with no problems and
very little interaction.

  >This has driven me
  >crazy and I just want someone to tell me how to do it the right way.It
  >should be no secret
  >you that I am quite new to Linux and managing my own system though I've
  >been using
  >HP-UX as a user at college.I'll be glad if you could email me to help me
  >out .Thanks a
  >lot.


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Re: I need an HTML Editor

1998-05-29 Thread Oliver Elphick
Bonard B. Timmons III wrote:
  >Bob Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
  >
  >>  What is the name of the .deb file that provides the PSGMLK
  >> package?  I can not find it in hamm or slink, and can't find a
  >> reference in the emacs info file.  It sounds like a package I want to
  >> have available.
  >
  >psgml is yet another reason why emacs rules.
  >
  >ftp://ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/dists/slink/main/binary-all/text/psgml_1.0.1
  >-17.deb
  >
  >is one possible URL for it.

If you use xemacs-20, psgml is included in it.

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Re: help: uid_t structure !

1998-06-06 Thread Oliver Elphick
Nuno Carvalho wrote:
  >  I am trying to compile one file called xpriv.c which belongs to the
  >Radio Track install ! Unfortunally i get that:
  >
  >
  >xpriv.c: In function `give_up_root`:
  >xpriv.c:30: `uid_t` undeclared (first use this function)
  >xpriv.c:30: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
  >xpriv.c:30: for each function it appears in.)
  >xpriv.c:30: parse error before `uid`
  >xpriv.c:33: `uid` undeclared (first use this function) 
  >
  >---
  >
  > The code is:
  >
  >---
  >#include 
  >#include 
  >
  >int give_up_root(void) 
  >{
  >   /* get the real uid and give up root */
  >   uid_t uid;
  >   int err;
  >
  >   uid=getuid();
  >   err=seteuid(uid);
  >   return (err);
  >}
  >-
  >
  >What is going wrong ?
  >
  > uid_t structure isn`t already defined ?

You also need:

#include 

I am reporting this as a bug in the manpage of getuid and setuid against
manpages-dev.


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Re: How to copy partition?

1998-06-10 Thread Oliver Elphick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  >
  >Hi, All
  >
  >i had 330M old segate disk as my /.
  >
  >Now i'm getting 2Gig disk, but the question is -
  >how to copy the system from
  >old seagate to the new disk
  >(or to the new disk partition). I don't want
  >to reinstall/reconfigure everything...
  >
  >Is there Debian way/package for such things?

If you can have both disks installed, make the partition on the new
disk (`fdisk /dev/hdc' or whatever); make the filesystem (mkfs)

Then mount the new disk:

   # mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt  [make appropriate substitutions for hdc1]

then copy the root file system (excluding /mnt)

   # mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt
   # find / -xdev | cpio -pdm /mnt

If you are using lilo, you should probably run /sbin/lilo and tell it to
write a boot sector on the new disk.

Now you can shutdown and replace the old disk with the new one, and it ought
to work.


An alternative:

With so large a disk, you may want to make separate partitions for
root, /var, /usr and /home, or some combination; this means that a disaster
to one partition won't affect the others.

Suppose that you want to fill a new /usr partition which is on /dev/hdc1:
mount the new partition on /mnt:

   # mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt
   # cd /
   # cp -a usr /mnt
[cp -a is an alternative to the find|cpio I used above; find|cpio should work
on any Unix, whereas cp -a may not.]
   # umount /mnt
 
Do the same for the other partitions; the trickiest is root itself, since you
must exclude the directories that go to other partitions. I think that `cp -a'
and `find / -xdev' do that, but it needs checking.  (If you are going
to keep the old disk in your machine, there's no need to move root - just
delete the contents of the directories that you have copied and mount the
new partitions on them. That will leave root on the old disk, with more
space, and everything else on the new one.)

Edit /etc/fstab to list the partitions and say which
ones are to be mounted automatically; shutdown and reboot.
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Re: XF86Setup/Mouse Device

1998-06-16 Thread Oliver Elphick
Dennis Dixon wrote:...
  >1) I have succesfully installed XFree86 and am now attempting to run the
  >XF86Setup routine. In trying to get the mouse to work it appears to me all I
  >should have to do is select one of the 'devices'  and hit 'apply'. However,
  >I tried all possible device options and none got a response from the mouse.
  >(The mouse says Microsoft right on it, so I assume 'Microsoft' is the
  >correct protocol.  I tried different protocols with the 'inbortbm' device
  >and still got nothing.)

Someone else suggested it might be a PS/2 mouse.  If so, its connector
will be a little circular plug.  The correct devicename for this is 
/dev/psaux.
  >
  >The real problem is I don't understand how 'devices' work.  I found a
  >'MAKEDEV' command, but I'm not sure what this does. Is there a command to
  >query the contents of '/dev/smouse', etc.?  Plus, if I run a command like
  >'MAKEDEV' it would obviously create a new file in '/dev', but how would it
  >know to hook up to the mouse port on the machine?

Devices look like files but are actually pointers to device drivers in the
kernel (the operating system program).  For example:

  $ ls -l /dev/{psaux,hda}*
  brw-rw   1 root disk   3,   0 Dec  9  1996 /dev/hda
  brw-rw   1 root disk   3,   1 Dec  9  1996 /dev/hda1
  brw-rw   1 root disk   3,   2 Dec  9  1996 /dev/hda2
  
  crw---   1 root sys   10,   1 Jun 16 01:44 /dev/psaux

The first character of the modes (b or c) shows whether it is a block-
or character-device.  (Block devices, such as disks, expect to send and
receive data in blocks rather than one character at a time.) The pair of
numbers separated by a comma are the major and minor device numbers.
The major number tells the kernel which device driver is wanted (3 = IDE
hard disk, 10 = PS/2) and the minor number is an entry point in the
device driver.  The full list of device major and minor numbers is in the
documentation of the kernel-doc- package and is to be 
found at /usr/doc/kernel-doc-/Documentation/devices.txt.gz.
Unix treats devices as if they were files, so you can read and write them
(subject to permissions - you don't want arbitrary writes to your hard
disk!).

  >
  >
  >2) I have several other miscellaneous questions, although not necessary,
  >would make my life a lot easier.  When I go to '/var/log/messages' ( or any
  >log file for that matter) I get a huge file.  Does this file clear
  >automatically somehow eventually or does it just keep growing forever? There
  >must be a command to clear log files.

If you leave your machine running all the time, your log files will get
purged by programs run in the background by cron.  If you turn it off,
they can't run, so you need to install the anacron package, which should
catch up with necessary maintenance when you turn your machine on.
  >
  >3) The 'find','locate', and 'dpkg -search' commands would be great if I
  >could get them to work.  Logged in as 'root' if I type 'find  '
  >from any directory it should find that file anywhere in the system?
  >However, it doesn't do this for me.  Am I doing something wrong?

The syntax for find is

 find / -name 

find has many options.  Run `man find' and read carefully!

dpkg:
  $ dpkg -S devices.txt
  kernel-doc-2.0.32: /usr/doc/kernel-doc-2.0.32/Documentation/devices.txt.gz
  ...

locate:
  $ locate devices.txt
  /usr/doc/gs-aladdin/devices.txt.gz
  ...

  >
  >4) The last questions is a repeat from a previous post.  I am trying to make
  >it so a 'user' can run 'pon'.  ('pon' currently runs fine when logged in as
  >'root')
  >A response from Martin Bialasinski suggested that I use the following comman
  >d:
  >
  >adduser  theuser dialout
  >
  >Although this command ran fine and added 'theuser' to the dialout group,
  >when logged in as theuser I still couldn't use the 'pon' command.

What happens when the user tries to run it?

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Re: Partitioning/Dual Booting

1998-06-25 Thread Oliver Elphick
"M. Phillips" wrote:
  >I'm a newby to the whole Linux/GNU/Debian system, being a long-time MS
  >devotee, and although I am very close to being sold on getting it, I have a
  >couple of questions to clear up first.
  >
  >1: In the FAQ, section 3.4
  ><http://www.us.debian.org/doc/FAQ/debian-faq-3.html#ss3.4> states that one
  >should partition a 1.6 GB hard disk with the following partitions:
  >"
  >•30 MBytes for the root directory (/) 
  >•450 MBytes for /usr 
  >•50 MBytes for swap space 
  >•1000 MBytes for home directories (some of this could be used for
  >/usr/local/) 
  >•0 MBytes for /tmp; make /tmp a symbolic link to /var/tmp 
  >•40 MBytes for /var "
  >
  >Pardon my ignorance, or mayhaps it's the ambiguity of the whole section,
  >but does this mean I need five separate partitions on the single disk, or
  >(more likely, methinks) does it mean that the single partition consists of
  >1570 MBytes?  Any clarification would be most appreciated.
  >
This is indeed 5 partitions.  The swap partition is used as a runtime
memory extension; the other partitions separate out parts of the directory
tree to limit the extent of damage in case of any disaster.  If one
filesystem gets corrupted, the others should still be OK.
  >
  >
  >Also, seeing as how I _am_ new to the idea, I would very much like to
  >perform a dual boot between Win95/MS-DOS, and Debian/GNU Linux operating
  >systems.  Seems like somewhere in the dark recesses of the PC World
  >archives there's a miniscule article about dual-booting between 2 or more
  >OSes, but I've since lost/given away the issue, and I'd like to hear it
  >from a user more experienced than myself in the area.

When you install Debian, you can get dual booting by using LILO.  This is
my config file (/etc/lilo.conf):

boot=/dev/hda3
root=/dev/hda3
compact
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
vga=normal
delay=50
# Linux - 2.0.32
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.32
  label=linux
  append="mem=96m aic7xxx=ultra"
  read-only
# Linux - 2.0.33
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.33
  label=linux2033
  append="mem=96m aic7xxx=ultra"
  read-only
# Win 95
other=/dev/hda1
  label=w95

This particular configuration allows me to boot Linux with either of two
kernel versions; it also allows for Windows95.

Important! 

  1  After changing /etc/lilo.conf, and especially after changing the
 kernel, you must run /sbin/lilo to update the boot map.

  2  Install any Microsoft product first; Microsoft has no respect for the
 presence of any other OS and is liable to overwrite the boot sector.

  3  Make sure you have a rescue floppy or a bootable CD.

If you don't want to risk using LILO you can boot Linux from inside DOS
with LOADLIN.EXE.

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Re: Once burned...

1998-06-25 Thread Oliver Elphick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  >Hi all,
  >
  >I hope this is the right list for utterly and incredibly new Linux newbies.
  >I had another distribution my machine but it was too old to recognize most
  >of my hardware to I gave it away. I'm waiting now for Debian 2 to start
  >anew but I wanted to be sure my hardware will work with this one. Hope you
  >can help.
  >
  >I have a Logitech TrackMan Marble (same connector as the standard PS/2 port
  >mouse)...

I can't comment on the rest, but this is fine.  It is a PS/2 mouse and uses
device /dev/psaux.

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Re: Partitioning/Dual Booting

1998-06-26 Thread Oliver Elphick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  >
  >> Important! 
  >> 
  >>   1  After changing /etc/lilo.conf, and especially after changing the
  >>  kernel, you must run /sbin/lilo to update the boot map.
  >
  >Might I inquire as to what this bootmap stuff is about and why its
  >important? I've built and used kernels 2.0.29,2.0.30,2.0.32,2.0.33 and 2.0.3
  >4 on
  >my machine and never thought of running lilo again, yet everything still wor
  >ks
  >fine.
 
Answer off the top of my head (so check the details if it matters):

Lilo stores the actual disk address of the kernel in the boot map (this is
run before there is an operating system to interpret the file system). If
you recompile the kernel, it will almost certainly be somewhere different
and you won't be able to boot.  If you build the kernel with `make zlilo'
this is done for you, which is perhaps why you haven't had any problem.
If you use `make zimage', on the other hand, you must run lilo before you
reboot.
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Re: postgres intallation failed

1998-06-27 Thread Oliver Elphick
Networking Wizard wrote:
  >After Shared PostgreSQL library intsallation (libpgsql 6.3.2-8)
  >i've been trying to inttall postgresql (6.3.2-8) severl times,
  >but i did not succeed; dpkg terminates because of unspecified errors.
  >Here is the log:
  >
  >> Unpacking replacement postgresql ...
  >> Setting up postgresql (6.3.2-8) ...
  >> Now installing the PostgreSQL database files in /var/postgres/data
  >> su - postgres -c PATH=/usr/uxs:/root/uxs:/root/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/lo
  >cal/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/lib/postgresql
  >/bin:/usr/lib/postgresql/bin; initdb -l /usr/lib/postgresql/lib -r /var/
  >postgres/data -u postgres
  >> dpkg: error processing postgresql (--install):
  >>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
  >> Errors were encountered while processing:
  >>  postgresql
  >
  >Shadow passwords have been installed on machine. Could this error be 
  >ascribed to shadow password for 'postgres' postmater account?

I don't think so.  I use shadow passwords and have no problem.

The current state of the package is that it is unpacked and should be present 
on your disk.  If you have never installed it before, it needs to create a
new database - this is the step it has failed on.  However, I see that
this was a 'replacement postgresql': had you created a database with
an earlier version? 

To find out what is going wrong with initdb:
Edit /usr/lib/postgresql/bin/initdb and add the line `set +x' after the 
first line.  Then become root and run the initialisation command (this
is all one line):

 su - postgres -c "PATH=$PATH:/usr/lib/postgresql/bin; initdb -l 
/usr/lib/postgresql/lib -r /var/postgres/data -u postgres"

It should now be possible to see where failure is occurring - please send
me the screen output.

  >By the way, which password will be assigned to postmaster, during the
  >installation?

If postgres is installed from base-passwd; it needs (I think) to be
enabled by assigning it a password.  If it does not exist when postgresql's
preinst script runs, it is created with `adduser --disabled-password'.  You
cannot log in as postgres until it is assigned a password (but root can still 
su to it.)

Oliver Elphick
PostgreSQL maintainer for Debian
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Re: postgres intallation failed

1998-06-28 Thread Oliver Elphick
Networking Wizard wrote:
...
  >It seemed a write-permission denial in /var/postgres sub-tree. Therefore 
  >i switched back to root and changed the owner of /var/postgres:
  >
  >%% chown -R postgres.postgres  /var/postgres  

I think I'll add this to the postinst script

  >
  >This time postgres user was able to complete the initiatization script.
  >I was able to create users allowed to access and change databases, so i thin
  >k 
  >postgres is running correctly now.
  >Yet i had to start postmaster by line command; i noticed that postgres direc
  >tive 
  >is not contained in  /etc/rc*.d/ directories. Is it a desired feature or is 
  >it
  >due to my non-orthodox installation procedure?

It's probably because the postinst script failed.  You should have a 
/etc/init.d/postgresql file, with the following symbolic links to it:

/etc/rc0.d/K20postgresql  /etc/rc3.d/S20postgresql  /etc/rc6.d/K20postgresql
/etc/rc1.d/K20postgresql  /etc/rc4.d/S20postgresql
/etc/rc2.d/S20postgresql  /etc/rc5.d/S20postgresql


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Re: postgres intallation failed

1998-06-29 Thread Oliver Elphick
Jeff Noxon wrote:
  >On Sat, Jun 27, 1998 at 11:14:19AM +0200, Networking Wizard wrote:
  >> After Shared PostgreSQL library intsallation (libpgsql 6.3.2-8)
  >> i've been trying to inttall postgresql (6.3.2-8) severl times,
  >> but i did not succeed; dpkg terminates because of unspecified errors.
  >> Here is the log:
  >> 
  >> > Unpacking replacement postgresql ...
  >> > Setting up postgresql (6.3.2-8) ...
  >> > Now installing the PostgreSQL database files in /var/postgres/data
  >> > su - postgres -c PATH=/usr/uxs:/root/uxs:/root/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/
  >local/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/lib/postgres
  >ql/bin:/usr/lib/postgresql/bin; initdb -l /usr/lib/postgresql/lib -r /va
  >r/postgres/data -u postgres
  >> > dpkg: error processing postgresql (--install):
  >
  >[snip]
  >
  >I think the bug is in base-passwd.
  >
  >You need to edit /etc/passwd so that the shell is /bin/sh or similar.  I
  >filed a bug report on base-passwd about this.

The bug is not in base-passwd but in postgresql.  I used adduser to create
the account if it did't exist, but I had not noticed that `adduser --system'
assigns /bin/false as the shell.  I have changed postgresql-6.3.2-11
to use useradd instead.  This is bug#24036.

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