Re: Sound input source detected but not capturing

[Marko Randjelovic]

On Fri, 03 Sep 2021 22:52:45 +0530
Pankaj Jangid  wrote:

> I have a fresh Bullseye installation on a laptop. Sound output is
> working. But the input is not working. The device is detected.
> 
> --8<---cut here---start->8---
> $ arecord -l
>  List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices 
> card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC236 Analog [ALC236 Analog]
>   Subdevices: 1/1
>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> --8<---cut here---end--->8---
> 
> In the gnome settings, input is showing built-in microphone but there is
> not movement in the capturing indicator.
> 
> alsamixer is also showing the sound card (F6) - HDA Intel PCH.
> 

Did you make sure:

1. correct device is set to record from 
2. recording is enabled
3. input volume is large enough

If you are not sure send the output of command 'amixer' so we can check.

Re: Sound input source detected but not capturing

[Marko Randjelovic]

On Fri, 3 Sep 2021 20:48:52 +0200
Marko Randjelovic  wrote:

> If you are not sure send the output of command 'amixer' so we can check.

In fact, unless you have only one sound device, the command should
be 'amixer -cN' where N is the number of your sound card and can change
after reboot. So first you have to type 'cat /proc/asound/cards' to
find your card number.

Re: Sound input source detected but not capturing

[Marko Randjelovic]

On Sat, 04 Sep 2021 07:47:02 +0530
Pankaj Jangid  wrote:

> Marko Randjelovic  writes:
> 
> > Did you make sure:
> >
> > 1. correct device is set to record from 
> > 2. recording is enabled
> > 3. input volume is large enough  
> 
> I guess I have only one device so there is nothing to set.

I meant 'input source'. On my machine it can be:

'Rear Mic' 'Front Mic' 'Line' 'CD'

> 
> How is recording enabled? Do I need to add myself to some group? I am
> member of followin groups: pankaj cdrom floppy sudo audio dip video
> plugdev netdev bluetooth scanner.

You are member of audio group, so that's fine. By 'recording enabled I
meant on/off switch.

> 
> I have tried to set input volume using various knobs in gnome settings
> as well as alsamixer. It did not work.
> 
> >> If you are not sure send the output of command 'amixer' so we can check.  
> >
> > In fact, unless you have only one sound device, the command should
> > be 'amixer -cN' where N is the number of your sound card and can change
> > after reboot. So first you have to type 'cat /proc/asound/cards' to
> > find your card number.  
> 
> Output of ‘amixer’
> 
> --8<---cut here---start->8---
> $ amixer
> Simple mixer control 'Master',0
>   Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined
>   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
>   Limits: Playback 0 - 65536
>   Mono:
>   Front Left: Playback 64880 [99%] [on]
>   Front Right: Playback 64880 [99%] [on]
> Simple mixer control 'Capture',0
>   Capabilities: cvolume cswitch cswitch-joined
>   Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
>   Limits: Capture 0 - 65536
>   Front Left: Capture 65540 [100%] [on]
>   Front Right: Capture 65540 [100%] [on]
> --8<---cut here---end--->8---
> 
> Output of ‘amixer -c0’
> 
> --8<---cut here---start->8---
> $ cat /proc/asound/cards
>  0 [PCH]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH
>   HDA Intel PCH at 0xb1328000 irq 137
> 
> $ amixer -c0
> Simple mixer control 'Master',0
>   Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined
>   Playback channels: Mono
>   Limits: Playback 0 - 87
>   Mono: Playback 87 [100%] [0.00dB] [on]
> Simple mixer control 'Headphone',0
>   Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
>   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
>   Limits: Playback 0 - 87
>   Mono:
>   Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] [-65.25dB] [off]
>   Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] [-65.25dB] [off]
> Simple mixer control 'Speaker',0
>   Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
>   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
>   Limits: Playback 0 - 87
>   Mono:
>   Front Left: Playback 87 [100%] [0.00dB] [on]
>   Front Right: Playback 87 [100%] [0.00dB] [on]
> Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
>   Capabilities: pvolume
>   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
>   Limits: Playback 0 - 255
>   Mono:
>   Front Left: Playback 254 [100%] [-0.20dB]
>   Front Right: Playback 254 [100%] [-0.20dB]
> Simple mixer control 'Mic Boost',0
>   Capabilities: volume
>   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
>   Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
>   Limits: 0 - 3
>   Front Left: 3 [100%] [30.00dB]
>   Front Right: 3 [100%] [30.00dB]
> Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0
>   Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
>   Playback channels: Mono
>   Mono: Playback [off]
> Simple mixer control 'IEC958',1
>   Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
>   Playback channels: Mono
>   Mono: Playback [on]
> Simple mixer control 'IEC958',2
>   Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
>   Playback channels: Mono
>   Mono: Playback [on]
> Simple mixer control 'IEC958',3
>   Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
>   Playback channels: Mono
>   Mono: Playback [on]
> Simple mixer control 'IEC958',4
>   Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
>   Playback channels: Mono
>   Mono: Playback [on]
> Simple mixer control 'Capture',0
>   Capabilities: cvolume cswitch
>   Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
>   Limits: Capture 0 - 63
>   Front Left: Capture 63 [100%] [30.00dB] [on]
>   Front Right: Capture 63 [100%] [30.00dB] [on]
> Simple mixer control 'Auto-Mute Mode',0
>   Capabilities: enum
>   Items: 'Disabled' 'Enabled'
>   Item0: 'Enabled'
> Simple mixer control 'Internal Mic Boost',0
>   Capabilities: volume
>   Playback channels: Fro

Re: Up-to-date Bullseye, Power Save turned Samsung T55 Monitor off. Couldn't wake it up

[Marko Randjelovic]

On Sat, 2 Oct 2021 15:48:39 -0400
Kenneth Parker  wrote:

> HP Elitedesk 705 G1.  Bullseye XFCE.
> 
> I had a timeout set like usual.  Before, I could jiggle the Mouse and press
> the Shift Key and it would wake up, but not today.
> 
> Fortunately, I was able to power up a Laptop, and SSH into the Elitedesk,
> and tell it to Shutdown cleanly.  (But, obviously not everyone has this
> option).
> 
> (Until I can figure this out, I changed the Power settings to "Never" turn
> off the Monitor).
> 
> Has anybody else experienced this?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Kenneth Parker

I had such a problem and solved it by installing firmware for the
graphics card.

Re: mic issues after upgrade to Debian 11

[Marko Randjelovic]

On Tue, 5 Oct 2021 13:58:35 + (UTC)
L Dimov  wrote:

> My mic used to work fine under Debian 9 and 10, but after upgrading to 11, 
> people tell me that the audio coming out of my mic is really scratchy and bad 
> to the point where if I do a video call, I'd have to use the phone for the 
> audio part. Not sure where to even start with this... Is there an easy way 
> (is it possible) to revert to the previous driver, somehow, the one that was 
> there in Debian 10?
> Thank you in advance for any suggestions.Luben

To help us find the cause of your problem, it would be nice if you
could provide us more information: 
- your sound setup (do you use alsa, pulseaudio, jack...)
- which mic device/driver is in question (mic connected to your sound
card which is X, mic from your webcam which is Y...)
- what program do you use for communication (Zoom, Teams, Meet, Skype,
Telegram...)

Re: mic issues after upgrade to Debian 11

[Marko Randjelovic]

On Sat, 9 Oct 2021 13:21:51 + (UTC)
L Dimov  wrote:

>  
> 
> On Tuesday, October 5, 2021, 1:14:48 PM EDT, Marko Randjelovic 
>  wrote:  
>  
>  On Tue, 5 Oct 2021 13:58:35 + (UTC)
> L Dimov  wrote:
> 
> > My mic used to work fine under Debian 9 and 10, but after upgrading to 11, 
> > people tell me that the audio coming out of my mic is really scratchy and 
> > bad to the point where if I do a video call, I'd have to use the phone for 
> > the audio part. Not sure where to even start with this... Is there an easy 
> > way (is it possible) to revert to the previous driver, somehow, the one 
> > that was there in Debian 10?
> > Thank you in advance for any suggestions.Luben  
> 
> To help us find the cause of your problem, it would be nice if you
> could provide us more information: 
> - your sound setup (do you use alsa, pulseaudio, jack...)
> - which mic device/driver is in question (mic connected to your sound
> card which is X, mic from your webcam which is Y...)
> - what program do you use for communication (Zoom, Teams, Meet, Skype,
> Telegram...)
> 
> It is the built-in mic that is now problematic, with anything I try, 
> including with a variety of various sound recorders in GNOME. I just tried a 
> plug-in mic, and that one works, so I will be using it from now on for 
> meetings, but it is rather unfortunate that I can no longer use the built-in 
> mic in Debian 11, as that same mic worked fine with the previous two stable 
> versions of Debian.
> 
>   

What's the output of 'cat /proc/asound/cards'?

Re: Thunderbird problems

[Marko Randjelovic]

On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 23:22:41 -0400
Frank McCormick  wrote:

> I filed a bug report with Mozilla. Perhaps I should do the same with Debian?


Of course, Mozilla cannot solve Debian bugs and it looks like the bug
is from Debian. It is possible the bug is from Thunderburd (not
Mozilla as Thunderbird is not part of Mozilla anymore), but still if you
don't know it the correct way is to report the bug to Debian and if they
determine the bug is upstream they will forward it.

Re: WiFi turned off

[Marko Randjelovic]

On Thu, 5 Aug 2021 10:30:42 +0300
Gunnar Gervin  wrote:

> Hi again, experts.
> Please advice how fix it.
> WiFi gone.
> I used ethernet cable to reinstall Debian i386 32b Buster. Now WiFi won't
> turn on. In Xfce desktop "Advanced Network Manager" shows the WiFi
> provider, but "Save" button's grey passive; not possible to turn on.
> Installed B.a.t.m.a.n another management tool; hope it helps.
> BR,
> Gunnar

Maybe you need to install a firmware. What is the model of your
wireless card? Use lspci or lsusb to find out, depending on how your
card is connected. Also you can use

# dmesg | grep -i firmware

to see messages related to firmware (if there are any).

Re: virt-install returns error

[Marko Randjelovic]

On Tue, 1 Sep 2020 21:57:59 -0500
Charles Zeitler  wrote:

> [27901.892175] audit: type=1400 audit(1599004754.496:57):
> apparmor="DENIED" operation="open"
> profile="libvirt-845413b9-8775-499f-bfaa-bf583e4040ae"
> name="/sys/devices/system/node/" pid=9 comm="qemu-system-x86"
> requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=64055 ouid=0
> [27901.892187] audit: type=1400 audit(1599004754.496:58):
> apparmor="DENIED" operation="open"
> profile="libvirt-845413b9-8775-499f-bfaa-bf583e4040ae"
> name="/sys/devices/system/cpu/" pid=9 comm="qemu-system-x86"
> requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=64055 ouid=0

You have DENIED entries where apparmor prevents qemu-system-x86 to
access files /sys/devices/system/node/ and /sys/devices/system/cpu/.
Try to edit apparmor profile for qemu-system-x86 and reload it
afterwards. Profiles are located in /etc/apparmor.d. There are guides
on the web how to do it.

Regards,
Marko

Re: query about kernel, download options, sessions

[Marko Randjelovic]

On Tue, 8 Sep 2020 10:45:41 +
nenu crok  wrote:

> i am privacy freak, hence not using android. however, after seeing size of 
> libreoffice, is there any way an option to download only small portion. i 
> have overheard aboout similar option in our os debian. this is must, only 
> metered ethernet or wifi connections in my area. i am specifically interested 
> about disadvantages compared to full package or normal update or upgrade.

You can download only parts of libreoffice that you need, e.g.

apt install libreoffice-writer libreoffice-calc

Also, you can use --no-install-recommends option:

apt-get --no-install-recommends install libreoffice-writer libreoffice-calc

Regards,
Marko

Re: Juk hangs after launch

[Marko Randjelovic]

On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 14:09:28 +0200 (CEST)
local10  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Installed a kernel update and soft-rebooted the system to load the new kernel 
> while juk was playing. After the system came back, juk cannot be launched, it 
> just hangs and cannot even show its initial window properly. When I try to 
> close the juk window, KDE says "Application "juk" is not responding" and 
> offers to terminate juk.
> 
> It looks like something got screwed up with juk configuration while the 
> system was being shut down for reboot. I don't mind losing old juk config 
> files and starting anew, just can't find them. Checked ~/.config, ~/.cache, 
> ~/.kde/share but there appear to be no juk config files with the exception of 
> ~/.config/jukrc .
> 
> Any ideas? Thanks
> 
> # echo "This is a Debin 10 Buster PC"; uname -a
> This is a Debin 10 Buster PC
> Linux tst 4.19.0-11-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.146-1 (2020-09-17) x86_64 
> GNU/Linux
> 
> # aptitude show juk
> Package: juk
> Version: 4:18.08.1-1
> State: installed

Hi local10,

Launch juk from terminal to be able to see its debugging messages. Also
you can reboot with the old kernel to see if juk works, maybe your new
kernel introduced some bug.

Regards,
Marko

Re: Installing Debian 10 from flash drive [NO network]

[Marko Randjelovic]

On Fri, 20 Nov 2020 09:35:04 -0600
Richard Owlett  wrote:

> 
> I attempted to install gparted using Synaptic.
> The message received was:
> 
> "Please insert the disk labeled:
> Debian GNU/Linux10.0.0_Buster_-Official amd64 DVD
> Binary-120190706-10:24
> in drive /media/cdrom/"
> 
> What is the solution?

As of my experience, th only solution is this:

Insert the flash.
# mkdir /media/usb0
# mount /dev/sdb /media/usb0 # (replace sdb with device node of your
flash)
# rm /media/cdrom
# ln -s usb0 /media/cdrom
# apt-get update
# apt-get install gparted

Re: Installing Debian 10 from flash drive [NO network]

[Marko Randjelovic]

On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 09:11:18 -0600
Richard Owlett  wrote:

> On 11/20/2020 10:56 AM, Marko Randjelovic wrote:
> > On Fri, 20 Nov 2020 09:35:04 -0600
> > Richard Owlett  wrote:
> >   
> >>
> >> I attempted to install gparted using Synaptic.
> >> The message received was:
> >>
> >> "Please insert the disk labeled:
> >> Debian GNU/Linux10.0.0_Buster_-Official amd64 DVD
> >> Binary-120190706-10:24
> >> in drive /media/cdrom/"
> >>
> >> What is the solution?  
> > 
> > As of my experience, th only solution is this:
> > 
> > Insert the flash.
> > # mkdir /media/usb0
> > # mount /dev/sdb /media/usb0 # (replace sdb with device node of your
> > flash)
> > # rm /media/cdrom
> > # ln -s usb0 /media/cdrom
> > # apt-get update
> > # apt-get install gparted  
> 
> That appears to be a more rigorously correct rendition of what I 
> partially recalled. I remembered only the "mount" command was part of it.

The essential fact is that APT always looks any disk in /media/cdrom.
If you want to add another disk, it's possible, but first you have to
mount it somewhere and make /media/cdrom point to that dir. The same
trick you use when you are asked to insert another disk during
install/upgrade packages.

Re: NULL pointer dereference

[Marko Randjelovic]

On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 17:13:13 +0100
Grzesiek Sójka  wrote:

> Hi there,
> 
> I found the following in my "server" log:
> 
> ==
> 
> BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 0008
> PGD 0 P4D 0
> Oops:  [#2] SMP PTI
> CPU: 5 PID: 12441 Comm: awk Tainted: G  D   4.19.0-13-amd64 
> #1 Debian 4.19.160-2
> Hardware name: FUJITSU D3162-B1/D3162-B1, BIOS V4.6.5.3 R1.23.0 for 
> D3162-B1x 12/01/2014
> RIP: 0010:unmap_page_range+0x561/0xa60
> Code: 80 00 00 00 01 e8 4f 2b 01 00 49 8b 07 f6 c4 80 0f 84 0e 03 00 00 
> 4c 89 ff e8 6b 91 fe ff 85 c0 0f 88 e6 02 00 00 49 8b 46 28 <8b> 50 08 
> 8d 4a 01 89 48 08 4c 89 7c d0 10 3b 48 0c 0f 84 d2 00 00
> RSP: 0018:9c3a49167cd0 EFLAGS: 00010206
> RAX:  RBX: 8e2f47a83a10 RCX: 0001
> RDX:  RSI:  RDI: 8e2f7dd2
> RBP: 7faa2ed43000 R08:  R09: 8e2ef8ae1c70
> R10: 8e2f9e5df000 R11:  R12: 7faa2ed42000
> R13: 00014fd44025 R14: 9c3a49167dd0 R15: d073853f5100
> FS:  () GS:8e2f7e14() knlGS:
> CS:  0010 DS:  ES:  CR0: 80050033
> CR2: 0008 CR3: 00015020a003 CR4: 000606e0
> Call Trace:
>   unmap_vmas+0x7f/0xb0
>   exit_mmap+0xaa/0x180
>   mmput+0x54/0x130
>   do_exit+0x33f/0xbb0
>   ? handle_mm_fault+0xd6/0x200
>   do_group_exit+0x3a/0xa0
>   __x64_sys_exit_group+0x14/0x20
>   do_syscall_64+0x53/0x110
>   entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe+0x44/0xa9
> RIP: 0033:0x7faa2eaa99d6
> Code: Bad RIP value.
> RSP: 002b:7ffd860931d8 EFLAGS: 0246 ORIG_RAX: 00e7
> RAX: ffda RBX: 7faa2eb9a760 RCX: 7faa2eaa99d6
> RDX:  RSI: 003c RDI: 
> RBP:  R08: 00e7 R09: ff80
> R10: 7ffd86093096 R11: 0246 R12: 7faa2eb9a760
> R13: 0001 R14: 7faa2eba3428 R15: 
> Modules linked in: ppp_deflate cfg80211 rfkill 8021q garp stp mrp llc 
> ppp_async crc_ccitt ppp_generic slhc nfsd auth_rpcgss nfs_acl lockd 
> grace sunrpc xt_nat nft_chain_nat_ipv4 nf_nat_ipv4 nf_nat nf_conntrack 
> nf_defrag_ipv6 nf_defrag_ipv4 libcrc32c ipt_REJECT nf_reject_ipv4 
> nft_limit xt_limit xt_tcpudp nft_compat x_tables nft_counter nf_tables 
> nfnetlink binfmt_misc bonding sch5636 sch56xx_common rc_it913x_v1 it913x 
> af9033 dvb_usb_af9035 dvb_usb_v2 dvb_core rc_core snd_hda_codec_hdmi 
> snd_hda_codec_conexant snd_hda_codec_generic intel_rapl i915 
> x86_pkg_temp_thermal snd_hda_intel intel_powerclamp snd_hda_codec 
> coretemp snd_hda_core snd_hwdep snd_pcm xhci_pci ehci_pci ahci snd_timer 
> xhci_hcd drm_kms_helper ehci_hcd libahci kvm snd mei_wdt tg3 iTCO_wdt 
> irqbypass mei_me e1000e drm libata usbcore
>   iTCO_vendor_support soundcore lpc_ich libphy mei i2c_algo_bit 
> usb_common mfd_core crct10dif_pclmul crc32_pclmul ppdev 
> ghash_clmulni_intel sg i2c_i801 intel_cstate evdev intel_uncore 
> pcc_cpufreq video parport_pc button intel_rapl_perf pcspkr parport ext4 
> crc16 mbcache jbd2 crc32c_generic fscrypto ecb sd_mod crc32c_intel 
> aacraid aesni_intel aes_x86_64 crypto_simd scsi_mod cryptd glue_helper 
> thermal fan
> CR2: 0008
> ---[ end trace 1f0672175c6e1ff0 ]---
> RIP: 0010:unmap_page_range+0x55d/0xa60
> Code: ff 83 ac 84 80 00 00 00 01 e8 4f 2b 01 00 49 8b 07 f6 c4 80 0f 84 
> 0e 03 00 00 4c 89 ff e8 6b 91 fe ff 85 c0 0f 88 e6 02 00 00 <49> 8b 46 
> 28 8b 50 08 8d 4a 01 89 48 08 4c 89 7c d0 10 3b 48 0c 0f
> RSP: 0018:9c3a43a67cd0 EFLAGS: 00010202
> RAX: 0004 RBX: 8e2f47a0deb0 RCX: 0001
> RDX:  RSI:  RDI: 8e2f7dd2
> RBP: 7f9f121d7000 R08:  R09: 8e2f6a6e09c0
> R10: 8e2f9e5df000 R11:  R12: 7f9f121d6000
> R13: 00081e49f025 R14: 9c3a43a67dd0 R15: d073a07927c0
> FS:  () GS:8e2f7e14() knlGS:
> CS:  0010 DS:  ES:  CR0: 80050033
> CR2: 7faa2eaa99ac CR3: 00015020a003 CR4: 000606e0
> Fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed!
> 
> 
> 
> This is not the first time, so I suspect a persistent problem. I have no 
> idea how to look for the solution. Any suggestions??
> Just in case:
> 
> 
> 
> # lspci
> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor 
> Family DRAM Controller (rev 09)
> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200/2nd Generation Core 
> Processor Family PCI Express Root Port (rev 09)
> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core 
> Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
> 00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset 
> Family USB xHCI Host Controller 

Re: Battery drain with poweroff

[Marko Randjelovic]

Hi all,

On Mon, 8 Feb 2021 13:26:12 +0100
Nicolas George  wrote:
> Now I need a way to apply it; apparently I need some way to boot
> Windows. I hope I will not need to overwrite the complete drive with the
> backup image I made.

There is a program named 'flashrom' in Debian, but I don't know how
reliable is it as BIOS flash is quite a dangerous operation. I decided
to risk several years ago on an AMD system with MSI motherboard and was
successful.

Regards,
Marko


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Re: why flash fails for this web site?

[Marko Randjelovic]

On Sun, 21 Jul 2019 21:04:27 + (UTC)
Long Wind  wrote:

> my firefox for stretch can display flash, for example: 
> http://www.10jqka.com.cn/flash/
> but it can't display 
> https://www.gtja.com/jccy/syhq.htmli can't see any error msg, the page is 
> blank
> 
> my other stretch can display https://www.gtja.com/jccy/syhq.html

Maybe your flash plugins are different, or totally missing from the
first installation. Are you sure the content you are playing is for
flash?

Re: which package to file a bug against?

[Marko Randjelovic]

Hi Matt Zagrabelny,

On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 08:54:52 -0500
Matt Zagrabelny  wrote:

> Greetings d-u,
> 
> I have a new-ish laptop and a pair of the function keys (screen
> brighter/dimmer) are mapped to the wrong function (mic mute/unmute).
> 
> Where should I look to file the bug?

Use reportbug tool to file a bug.
> 
> I'm aware it is ACPI related, but I do not have any packages installed
> that have "acpi" in the package name.

Try this to list all packages that are installed and have acpi in
either package name and description:

apt-cache search acpi | while read package_name rest; do if dpkg -l 
$package_name &>/dev/null; then echo $package_name; fi; done

Also, kernel has support for ACPI.

And it's not necessary to know exact package which is to blame, as
package maintainers can reassign a bug report to another package.

Regards, 
Marko

Re: stretch uefi install ends up with no framebuffer for console

[Marko Randjelovic]

On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 16:45:33 +
rbraun204  wrote:

> Hey all,  i'm installing stretch onto a HP Z4G4 workstation via
> netboot and in uefi mode.   The only video hardware in the box is a
> NVIDIA Corporation GP107GL [Quadro P620].   The install goes as
> expected.  Only installed standard utils and ssh server.
> 
> On first boot grub comes up and boots into the default entry,   the
> only text after on the screen is the loading linux/initrd echo entries
> from grub.   Thought it was frozen, but noticed my dhcp service got a
> req from the box and sure enough i can ssh in and the machine is up
> and running,  just no output to the monitor.   Still just the grub
> statements up on the screen.
> 
> running hwinfo --framebuffer results in no output.
> 
> efifb appears to get loaded and has grubs resolution
> [1.451694] efifb: probing for efifb
> [1.451712] efifb: framebuffer at 0xe000, using 8640k, total 8640k
> [1.451712] efifb: mode is 1920x1080x32, linelength=8192, pages=1
> [1.451713] efifb: scrolling: redraw
> [1.451713] efifb: Truecolor: size=8:8:8:8, shift=24:16:8:0
> [1.484650] fb0: EFI VGA frame buffer device
> 
> 
> installed the latest kernel from stretch-backports, reboot.  Same
> behavior as above.
> 
> Installed nvidia-driver (proper for this gpu), reboot.  Same behavior as 
> above.
> 
> Upgraded to nvidia-driver from backports,  reboot.  Same behavior as above.
> 
> Install some desktop environment,  reboot.   system boots into X no
> issues.  Try a ctrl-alt-f1 to drop to console and monitor shuts off
> reporting no video output.   ctrl-alt-f7 brings video and monitor back
> online.
> 
> Moved on to trying to massage /etc/default/grub and setting
> GRUB_GFXMODE and GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX. And can make grub look pretty
> at 1920x1080 or any resolution if I want. It appears grub is passing
> the video resolution properly to the kernel as I can see in dmesg when
> efifb is loaded the resolution it's looking to set is the value of
> GRUB_GFXMODE.  For shits and giggles tried setting gfxmode to 1024x768
> and still no dice.
> 
> Tried booting into the grub commandline to verify video modes.  Sure
> enough grub reports efi GOP driver and 1920x1080x32 as a valid mode.
> 
> Anyone have any ideas?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Ryan
> 

Hi Ryan,

Check if your video card needs a firmware. Also check if it needs a
kernel module. 

Regards,
Marko

Re: update to new kernel

[Marko Randjelovic]

On Wed, 8 May 2019 11:49:18 -0400
Default User  wrote:

> So, since
> linux-image-4.19.0-5-amd64  - Linux 4.19 for 64-bit PCs
> (signed)
> seems to be available, why did updating not update the kernel from
> linux-image-4.19.0-4-amd64 to linux-image-4.19.0-5-amd64?

Because linux-image-4.19.0-4-amd64 and linux-image-4.19.0-5-amd64 are
two different packages, not two versions of a package. Install 
linux-image-amd64 package which depends on newest kernel version and it
will pull linux-image-4.19.0-5-amd64.

Empty crontab

[Marko Randjelovic]

I see tasks from directories /etc/cron.* are ran regulary, but when I 
run "crontab -e" as root, the file is empty. Where are these tasks 
schedualed? I am asking because I want to know at what time of the day 
are tasks from cron.daily ran  and how to change it.


Thanks.


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Re: Empty crontab

[Marko Randjelovic]

Franck Joncourt wrote:

On Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 12:49:19PM +0100, Marko Randjelovic wrote:
  
I see tasks from directories /etc/cron.* are ran regulary, but when I 
run "crontab -e" as root, the file is empty. Where are these tasks 
schedualed? I am asking because I want to know at what time of the day 
are tasks from cron.daily ran  and how to change it.



If I am not mistaken crontab -e edits root's crontab, however, according
to me, you are looking for /etc/crontab, aren't you ?

  
I thaught root's crontab is /etc/crontab. Thanks. Which command then to 
run to edit this file (sometime ago I read it is not recommended to edit 
it directly)?



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CUPS - bottom margin to big

[Marko Randjelovic]

When I print a test page, the bottom line is around 12.5 mm from edge of 
the paper. Other margins are around 40 mm. Because of this to high 
bottom margin, Firefox doesn't print whole footer, since you cannot set 
any value to more than 0.5 in File/Print/Properties.


Is there some way to fix this?

Thanks.


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Re: CUPS - bottom margin to big

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Page format is set to proper value - A4, both in Firefox and CUPS 
printer options. Printer is "HP DeskJet 3650 Foomatic/hpijs 
(recommended) - HPLIP 1.6.7".



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Re: pppconfig "command not found"

[Marko Randjelovic]

No, the pppconfig package is not installed from some strange reason. And I cannot connect to the internet to download it. 

  



If you can post to this mailing list, then you have internet access from 
some other computer. I think it should be enough to download just these 
two files:


http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/ppp/ppp_2.4.4rel-8_amd64.deb
http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/pppconfig/pppconfig_2.3.15_all.deb

They can fit even of floppy disk. Then take it to your computer, mount 
the floppy or whatever, change to mount directory and install with


dpkg -i ppp_2.4.4rel-8_amd64.deb
dpkg -i pppconfig_2.3.15_all.deb

Just to mention, since you are on dial-up, it would be probably the best 
to acquire Etch DVDs.



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Re: pppconfig "command not found"

[Marko Randjelovic]

Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote:


If you can post to this mailing list, then you have internet
access from
some other computer. I think it should be enough to download just
these
two files:

http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/ppp/ppp_2.4.4rel-8_amd64.deb

How do you know his architecture is amd64?

--
Software is like sex: it is better when it is free. 

Right, sorry about that.

Replace amd64 with your architecture. You can type

$ apt-cache show libc6 | grep Architecture

to see what is your arch (withoout dollar sign, of course).


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Reporting a bug (was: fglrx driver problems)

[Marko Randjelovic]

I run Etch on machine with Nvidia nForce3 250 motherboard and Radeon 
9550 graphics card. DRI is not working neither with radeon, nor fglrx 
driver. I tried several versions of fglrx driver and kernel, Debian and 
vanilla.


I think it's a bug and that probably is in kernel. I want to file a bug 
report.


Both radeon and fglrx log files refer to kernel module, which in was in 
all cases loaded (agpgart was linked statically, and also drm and radeon 
modules were present, sometimes statically, sometimes dynamically).


Also may be interesting, I tried with Nvidia card and DRI was working.

Do you think it's kernel or video drivers? Should I file a bug report 
only to Debian or also to original project?



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Re: Fwd: Header files amd64 etch

[Marko Randjelovic]

Francesco Pietra wrote:
> Probably I have found the way with
> 
> apt-cache search (show) xorg-dev
> 
> V 1:7.1.0-16
> 
> fp
> 

I don't think so. Try this:


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-file search X11/IntrinsicP.h
libxt-dev: usr/include/X11/IntrinsicP.h
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-file search X11/ShellP.h
libxt-dev: usr/include/X11/ShellP.h

So, you need package libxt-dev.


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Re: Installing & using tomcat

[Marko Randjelovic]

Blast o_O wrote:
> Hello!!!
> 
> I need to install tomcat in Ubuntu Feisty, but I'm new in the topic, can
> you give me a hand with this!!?? I'll be really thankful ;)
> 
> Good luck!!!
> B.
> 
> 

In Debian, you install it with

apt-get install tomcat5.5 tomcat5.5-admin tomcat5.5-webapps

Then edit
"/var/lib/tomcat5.5/conf/tomcat-users.xml" to enable admin user for web
interface. Then you can access web interface at "http://localhost:8180";.

Relevant configuration file is also "/etc/default/tomcat5.5".


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Re: Transitioning to 64bit, is it worth it, and how

[Marko Randjelovic]

Alan Chandler wrote:
> I have a Core2 Duo on which I am running a 686 kernel (from Debian 
> unstable).  It has 1GB of memory
> 
> I am wondering two things
> 
> a) What are the pros and cons in switching to 64 bit mode? 
>   - Is it faster?
>   - Are the packages less stable?
>   - Does it need significantly more memory?
>   - Can I use 32 bit apps from the repository if I have problems with an 
> identically named one in the 64 bit repository (with pinning maybe)

Yes, it is faster. Packages are not less stable, but some are
unavailable. It does need significantly more memory, but your system
should work fine, unless you use some very "hungry" apps like Eclipse.
You can install some 32-bit apps using dpkg with --force-architecture
option. If you need Acroread, first install ia32-libs-gtk from Ubuntu.

> b) Is there a simple transition path?
>   - Is there any howto?
>   - My current unstable repository seems to have a 64 bit kernel - do I 
> just install that and then change where my sources.list points>
> 

I think you have to install from scratch.


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Re: ext3fs errors with kernel 2.6.18 but not with 2.4.27

[Marko Randjelovic]

Francois Duranleau wrote:
>> I tried to change the IDE cables (I had a few spares from my father's 
>> computer).
>> I happened to notice that I had a 40 pins cable. I replaced it with a 80 pins
>> cable. I have two, I tried both: nothing changed. I still have CRC errors. 
>> BTW,
>> there is only one drive on that cable.
>>
>> However, I noticed that the motherboard's chipset's fan is dead. I knew it 
>> was
>> having a hard time spinning lately, but now, it's gone. Would it be the
>> motherboard's chipset that causes those errors because it's too hot?
> 
> Browsing around to look for potential problems with the VIA chipset driver, I
> came upon this:
> 
> http://www.tiny.cc/xORCV
> (see the last post in the thread)
> 
> Apparently, I am not the only one getting this kind of CRC errors on the
> primary IDE interface (and I do happen to have this exact motherboard:
> ABIT KT7). I will look if there are still some BIOS updates that may change
> something.
> 

I think you are right. The fan malfunction is probably not the cause,
since it is mounted on north bridge, and IDE controler is in south
bridge, that doesn't need a fan.

So, replace a motherboard.


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How to disable ipv6 tunneling

[Marko Randjelovic]

I run Etch and at every boot, as message on the screen states, it
activates some "ipv6 over ipv4 tunneling driver" and it lasts several
seconds. I don't need ipv6. How can it be disabled?


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Re: How to disable ipv6 tunneling

[Marko Randjelovic]

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 04:57:30PM +0200, Marko Randjelovic wrote:
>> I run Etch and at every boot, as message on the screen states, it
>> activates some "ipv6 over ipv4 tunneling driver" and it lasts several
>> seconds. I don't need ipv6. How can it be disabled?
> 
> I think you can blacklist the ipv6 module.
> 
> A

I blacklisted the modules, now it shows a message about not loading it,
but waites for 10 seconds anyway. Does someone have a better idea?


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Re: How to disable ipv6 tunneling

[Marko Randjelovic]

Alex Samad wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 04:57:30PM +0200, Marko Randjelovic wrote:
>> I run Etch and at every boot, as message on the screen states, it
>> activates some "ipv6 over ipv4 tunneling driver" and it lasts several
>> seconds. I don't need ipv6. How can it be disabled?
>>
> 
> in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases look for this line
> alias net-pf-10 ipv6
> 
> set it to 
> 
> alias net-pf-10 off
> 
> alex


I did this and now there is no mention of ipv6, but still the same
delay. Setting 'VERBOSE=yes' in /etc/default/rcS didn't help, it just says

Setting up networking.
Configuring network interfaces.

And at this point there is a delay, and then

Starting portmap daemon.

Any ideas?


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Re: CD/DVD Burner Configuration

[Marko Randjelovic]

Adriano Bonat wrote:
> Hm, I have a SATA controller, so the SCSI emulation owns the HD and
> the CD/DVD, I'm not at home now, but if i remember, the /dev/cdrw is a
> link to /dev/sr0

Which kernel version is it? You don't need SCSI emulation under 2.6. And
CD cannot be SATA, only IDE.


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Re: How to disable ipv6 tunneling

[Marko Randjelovic]

Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 09:05:07PM +0200, Marko Randjelovic wrote:
> 
>> delay. Setting 'VERBOSE=yes' in /etc/default/rcS didn't help, it just 
>> says
>>
>> Setting up networking.
>> Configuring network interfaces.
>>
>> And at this point there is a delay, and then
>>
>> Starting portmap daemon.
>>
>> Any ideas?
> 
> Are you using DHCP? Try setting your box to a static address.
> 
> Regards,
> Andrei

The problem was in my /etc/network/interfaces:


# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).

# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

# The primary network interface
# allow-hotplug eth0
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet static
address 192.168.0.2
netmask 255.255.255.0
broadcast 192.168.0.255
gateway 192.168.0.1


Some time ago I commented the line "allow-hotplug eth0" and added "auto
eth0", because I had some problems. Everything was working fine, until
one upgrade, when this delay started to occur. I have restored old
setting and now there is no delay, I hope problems will not start again.
I tried two times, but as I can remember they didn't occur every time.


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Re: usb and debian 4.0 os ...can i get some pointers???please???

[Marko Randjelovic]

Michael Habashy wrote:
> But how do you know that ? it is /dev/sdb ??? this is what is driving me up
> a wall.
> it puts these things in the log.
> I got a whole mess of strange devices in the /dev directory.
> And if i download  a utility..it tells me everything...except what i want to
> hear...
> it is plain crazy.
> 
> mjh
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/10/07, Marko Randjelovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Michael Habashy wrote:
>>> To all -- I would appriciate any help...
>>> Everytime i insert a usb device on my serveri get similar messeges
>> like
>>> the ones below:
>>>
>>> Aug 10 11:28:18 rider kernel: usb 1-4: USB disconnect, address 4
>>> Aug 10 11:28:41 rider kernel: usb 2-8: new full speed USB device using
>>> ohci_hcd and address 4
>>> Aug 10 11:28:42 rider kernel: usb 2-8: configuration #1 chosen from 1
>> choice
>>> Aug 10 11:30:39 rider kernel: usb 2-8: USB disconnect, address 4
>>> Aug 10 11:30:48 rider kernel: usb 2-8: new full speed USB device using
>>> ohci_hcd and address 5
>>> Aug 10 11:30:48 rider kernel: usb 2-8: configuration #1 chosen from 1
>> choice
>>> Aug 10 11:47:57 rider -- MARK --
>>> Aug 10 09:06:35 rider kernel: usb 2-4: USB disconnect, address 3
>>> Aug 10 09:07:30 rider kernel: usb 1-4: new high speed USB device using
>>> ehci_hcd and address 4
>>> Aug 10 09:07:31 rider kernel: usb 1-4: configuration #1 chosen from 2
>>> choices
>>> Aug 10 09:07:31 rider kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
>>> Aug 10 09:07:31 rider kernel: scsi6 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass
>> Storage
>>> devices
>>> Aug 10 09:07:31 rider kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage
>>>
>>> I further get some devices showing up in /dev directory like:
>>> usbdev1.1_ep00  usbdev1.7_ep02  usbdev2.1_ep00  usbdev2.2_ep02
>>> usbdev2.2_ep82  usbdev2.5_ep03
>>> usbdev1.1_ep81  usbdev1.7_ep81  usbdev2.1_ep81  usbdev2.2_ep03
>>> usbdev2.2_ep83  usbdev2.5_ep81
>>>
>>> I can not seem to access them or do anything with them.  Is there a
>> document
>>> on how debian 4.0 deals with usb devices?
>>> Somehting that wll help me through this jigsaw puzzle that i got myself
>> into
>>> ?
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> mjh
>>>
>> My MP3 player is on /dev/sdb, since sda is SATA HDD.
>>
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Oh, now I remmembered, I saw it in dmesg output. Reconnect your device
and run "dmesg".


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Re: usb and debian 4.0 os ...can i get some pointers???please???

[Marko Randjelovic]

Michael Habashy wrote:
> To all -- I would appriciate any help...
> Everytime i insert a usb device on my serveri get similar messeges like
> the ones below:
> 
> Aug 10 11:28:18 rider kernel: usb 1-4: USB disconnect, address 4
> Aug 10 11:28:41 rider kernel: usb 2-8: new full speed USB device using
> ohci_hcd and address 4
> Aug 10 11:28:42 rider kernel: usb 2-8: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
> Aug 10 11:30:39 rider kernel: usb 2-8: USB disconnect, address 4
> Aug 10 11:30:48 rider kernel: usb 2-8: new full speed USB device using
> ohci_hcd and address 5
> Aug 10 11:30:48 rider kernel: usb 2-8: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
> Aug 10 11:47:57 rider -- MARK --
> Aug 10 09:06:35 rider kernel: usb 2-4: USB disconnect, address 3
> Aug 10 09:07:30 rider kernel: usb 1-4: new high speed USB device using
> ehci_hcd and address 4
> Aug 10 09:07:31 rider kernel: usb 1-4: configuration #1 chosen from 2
> choices
> Aug 10 09:07:31 rider kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
> Aug 10 09:07:31 rider kernel: scsi6 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage
> devices
> Aug 10 09:07:31 rider kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage
> 
> I further get some devices showing up in /dev directory like:
> usbdev1.1_ep00  usbdev1.7_ep02  usbdev2.1_ep00  usbdev2.2_ep02
> usbdev2.2_ep82  usbdev2.5_ep03
> usbdev1.1_ep81  usbdev1.7_ep81  usbdev2.1_ep81  usbdev2.2_ep03
> usbdev2.2_ep83  usbdev2.5_ep81
> 
> I can not seem to access them or do anything with them.  Is there a document
> on how debian 4.0 deals with usb devices?
> Somehting that wll help me through this jigsaw puzzle that i got myself into
> ?
> 
> thanks
> mjh
> 

My MP3 player is on /dev/sdb, since sda is SATA HDD.


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Re: Boot troubles

[Marko Randjelovic]

Plus wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> I can't boot my Debian (
> 
> I installed Windows XP, it setted it's  own code in MBR. I wasn't
> confused, I just inserted first DVD of Debian GNU/Linux Sarge in
> DVD-ROM, but then I understood... The kernels on DVD doesn't support my
> reiserfs filesystem!
> 
> Now I'm really stoped. I don't know, what to do and how to run GRUB from
> my system...
> 
> I can't download some LiveCD distributive with reiserfs support because
> my internet is very limited. I can't by it because of "living at small
> town somewhere in Russia"...
> 
> May be there is some solution how to install GRUB with it's settings in
> my MBR again?
> 
> Respect,
> Plus.
> 

First, try to get Etch if you have posibilities. It has much newer software.

Anyway, Sarge should support reiserfs, even if kernels does not, you
need only to install grub and it does support reiserfs. As I can
remember, you need to enter "expert2.6" at Install CD boot prompt to get
all options.


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Re: flac and wav

[Marko Randjelovic]

Adam Hardy wrote:
> Hi
> 
> is anyone here familiar with wav files or flac encoding? I created a wav
> file using ReZound and I'm trying to compress it with flac but I get the
> following error:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp$ flac Ted/Ted\ Hughes\ -\ 1970\ -\ Crow\ \(side\ 
> 1\).wav
> 
> flac 1.1.2, Copyright (C) 2000,2001,2002,2003,2004,2005  Josh Coalson
> flac comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.  This is free software, and you are
> welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions.  Type `flac' for
> details.
> 
> options: -P 4096 -b 4608 -m -l 8 -q 0 -r 3,3
> Ted Hughes - 1970 - Crow (side 1).wav: 100% complete, ratio=0.331Ted
> Hughes - 1970 - Crow (side 1).wav: ERROR: unexpected EOF; expected
> 73923640 samples, got 73921536 samples
> 
> 
> Flac reaches 100% while (presumably) encoding, but due to the error it
> doesn't wwrite the flac file. This is with the --lax option which is
> meant to be more forgiving.
> 
> Is this symptomatic of a setting I should have configured when I saved
> the wav file in ReZound?
> 
> 
> Thanks
> Adam
> 
> 

Maybe ReZound made bad wav file. Try some other wav file, from different
source. Can this wav file be played with some player?


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Re: flac and wav

[Marko Randjelovic]

Ron Johnson wrote:
> Hmmm.  I don't know why I automatically assumed (yeah, yeah, I know)
> was a Windows app.  :(
> 
> Anyway, rezound in Unstable is a beta version (0.12.2beta-10), and
> quite an early version.  Maybe that's why there are bugs.  Also, it
> seems to use OSS instead of ALSA.  Not encouraging.
> 
> I'd look for it's home page on the internet and see how actively
> it's developed and what it's future plans are.
> 

Rezound is also in Etch, version 0.12.2beta-8 (earlier). Anyway,
Audacity should be fine for the purpose.


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Re: debian port of timidity doesn't work here

[Marko Randjelovic]

Jude DaShiell wrote:
> I figured to use timidity to listen to some midi files and found out
> missing instruments make that impossible.  Would it be better to convert
> the midi files to another format and listen to them that way and if so
> which format and what tool does that conversion?  If midi files aren't
> possible to play on debian I'd like to know that too since I may be able
> to do it on my mac.

You need to download patchset, you have freepats in Debian, but it is
not complete. I recommend Gravis UltraSound patchset, download it from

http://www.anime.net/~goemon/timidity/goemon.tgz

Uncompress it to /usr/local/share/midi/. Move the file goemon.cfg to
/etc/timidity/. Than add this line to /etc/timidity/timidity.cfg:

source /etc/timidity/goemon.cfg

Also, you can use soundfonts, there are some sites that enable free
download.


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aptitude dist-upgrade removes important packages

[Marko Randjelovic]

When I run "aptitude dist-upgrade", it says some packages will be removed:

The following packages are unused and will be REMOVED:
 bug-buddy eog esound fast-user-switch-applet file-roller gcalctool
 gconf-editor gdm gedit gedit-common gnome-backgrounds gnome-cards-data
 gnome-core gnome-games gnome-games-data gnome-keyring-manager
 gnome-nettool gnome-system-tools gnome-themes gnome-utils gnomemeeting
 gtk2-engines gtk2-engines-pixbuf gtkhtml3.8 gucharmap guile-1.6-libs
 industrial-cursor-theme libavahi-compat-howl0 libdmx1 libgnomevfs2-bin
 libgtkhtml3.8-15 libgtksourceview-common libgtksourceview1.0-0
 libguile-ltdl-1 libopenh323-1.18.0 libpt-1.10.0 libpt-plugins-alsa
 libpt-plugins-v4l python-gnome2-desktop system-tools-backends vino zenity
 zip

There is obviously something wrong because I use many of these packages. 
It wants to remove whole gnome. If I use apt-get, 0 packages are to be 
removed.


Is this some bug in aptitude?


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Re: aptitude dist-upgrade removes important packages

[Marko Randjelovic]

Florian Kulzer wrote:

Most likely it is not a bug. It seems that some packages have been
marked as "automatically installed" and no other package on your system
depends on them anymore. In that case aptitude will remove these
"unused" packages unless you change that configuration option. 


This should be fixable by running

aptitude unmarkauto '~M!~R~i'

to remove the "auto" mark from all the packages on which no other
installed package depends
These packages are marked as auto, but I am not sure if your fix will do 
what you think


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# aptitude unmarkauto '~M!~R~i'
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Writing extended state information... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
Building tag database... Done
The following packages are unused and will be REMOVED:
 bug-buddy eog esound fast-user-switch-applet file-roller gcalctool
 gconf-editor gdm gedit gedit-common gnome-backgrounds gnome-cards-data
 gnome-core gnome-games gnome-games-data gnome-keyring-manager
 gnome-nettool gnome-system-tools gnome-themes gnome-utils gnomemeeting
 gtk2-engines gtk2-engines-pixbuf gtkhtml3.8 gucharmap guile-1.6-libs
 industrial-cursor-theme libavahi-compat-howl0 libdmx1 libgnomevfs2-bin
 libgtkhtml3.8-15 libgtksourceview-common libgtksourceview1.0-0
 libguile-ltdl-1 libopenh323-1.18.0 libpt-1.10.0 libpt-plugins-alsa
 libpt-plugins-v4l python-gnome2-desktop system-tools-backends vino
 zenity zip
The following packages have been kept back:
 amarok amarok-engines amarok-xine apache2-utils apt-file base-files
 cdrdao console-common console-data dbus debconf debconf-i18n
 dictionaries-common discover1 discover1-data dvd+rw-tools e2fslibs
 e2fsprogs enscript epiphany-browser evolution-data-server
 evolution-data-server-common exim4 exim4-base exim4-config
 exim4-daemon-light fastjar firefox firefox-gnome-support
 foomatic-filters gettext-base gnome-applets gnome-applets-data
 gnome-keyring gnome-media gnome-media-common gnumeric gnumeric-common
 grep grub gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly hal hdparm hpijs hpijs-ppds
 ifupdown imagemagick inetutils-inetd initramfs-tools installation-report
 iptables iputils-ping irb1.8 kappfinder kate kcontrol kdebase
 kdebase-bin kdebase-data kdebase-kio-plugins kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a
 kdepasswd kdeprint kdesktop kfind khelpcenter kicker klibc-utils klipper
 kmenuedit konqueror konqueror-nsplugins konsole kpager kpersonalizer
 kppp ksmserver ksplash ksysguard ksysguardd ktip kwin libapache-mod-php4
 libapr1 libavahi-client3 libavahi-common-data libavahi-common3
 libavahi-compat-libdnssd1 libavahi-glib1 libavahi-qt3-1 libblkid1
 libbonobo2-0 libbonobo2-common libcaca0 libcamel1.2-8 libcomerr2
 libcucul0 libdbus-1-3 libdiscover1 libebook1.2-5 libecal1.2-6
 libedata-book1.2-2 libedata-cal1.2-5 libedataserver1.2-7
 libedataserverui1.2-6 libegroupwise1.2-10 libgail-common libgail17
 libgdome2-cpp-smart0c2a libgksu2-0 libglib1.2 libglib1.2-dev
 libgnome-keyring0 libgnome-media0 libgnutls13 libgphoto2-2
 libgphoto2-port0 libgsf-1-114 libgsf-1-common libgsf-gnome-1-114
 libgssapi2 libhal-storage1 libhal1 libhsqldb-java libjack0.100.0-0
 libklibc libkonq4 libmagick9 libmyspell3c2 libmysqlclient15off libneon26
 libnewt0.52 libopencdk8 liborbit2 libpam-modules libpam-runtime libpam0g
 libpoppler0c2 libpoppler0c2-glib libreadline-ruby1.8 libreadline5
 libruby1.8 libsdl1.2debian libsdl1.2debian-alsa libselinux1 libsmbclient
 libsnmp-base libsnmp9 libss2 libtasn1-3 libtasn1-3-bin libtheora0
 libtunepimp3 libuuid1 libxalan2-java libxerces2-java libxklavier10
 libxml2 libxml2-utils libxslt1.1 libxvidcore4 linux-kernel-headers
 locales mysql-client mysql-client-5.0 mysql-common mysql-server
 mysql-server-5.0 nano nfs-common openoffice.org openoffice.org-base
 openoffice.org-calc openoffice.org-common openoffice.org-core
 openoffice.org-draw openoffice.org-impress openoffice.org-java-common
 openoffice.org-math openoffice.org-writer openssh-client openssh-server
 php4 php4-common php4-mysql poppler-utils popularity-contest
 postgresql-7.4 postgresql-client-7.4 postgresql-client-common
 postgresql-common python-central python-libxml2 python-newt
 python-numeric python-uno rdoc1.8 readline-common rhythmbox ruby1.8
 strace tar telnet thunderbird ttf-opensymbol ucf vsftpd whiptail
 xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-video-mga xsltproc
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 43 to remove and 212 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 135MB will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?]


So even in this command it tries to remove them.


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Re: aptitude dist-upgrade removes important packages

[Marko Randjelovic]

Russell L. Harris wrote:

There was a discussing regarding this matter on this list a week or so
ago; check the archives.

  
I didn't find that discussion. Can you give me some words from Subject 
or body so i can find it? Most similar I found is 
http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/2005/08/msg00067.html from last year.



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Re: ppp

[Marko Randjelovic]

Alexander Harizanov wrote:

Hi all,
What coul be the reason of pppd failing after establishing a 
connection with remote computer?

Regards
 



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You should give us more information. What is exit code? You have 
explanation of all codes in "man pppd".



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Re: aptitude dist-upgrade removes important packages

[Marko Randjelovic]

All right, I did "aptitude keep-all" and now it looks like everything is 
OK. But note that I have also automatic daily "apt-get update". I should 
have tried first "aptitude dist-upgrade" before keep-all.


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# aptitude dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
Building tag database... Done
The following NEW packages will be automatically installed:
 gdm-themes icedove libconfig-file-perl libjaxp1.3-java xmms
The following packages will be automatically REMOVED:
 libconfigfile-perl
The following NEW packages will be installed:
 gdm-themes icedove libconfig-file-perl libjaxp1.3-java xmms
The following packages will be REMOVED:
 libconfigfile-perl
The following packages will be upgraded:
 amarok amarok-engines amarok-xine apache2-utils apt-file base-files
 cdrdao console-common console-data dbus debconf debconf-i18n
 dictionaries-common discover1 discover1-data dvd+rw-tools e2fslibs
 e2fsprogs enscript eog epiphany-browser evolution-data-server
 evolution-data-server-common exim4 exim4-base exim4-config
 exim4-daemon-light fastjar firefox firefox-gnome-support foomatic-filters
 gcalctool gconf-editor gdm gettext-base gnome-applets gnome-applets-data
 gnome-cards-data gnome-games gnome-games-data gnome-keyring
 gnome-keyring-manager gnome-media gnome-media-common gnome-utils gnumeric
 gnumeric-common grep grub gstreamer0.10-alsa gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs
 gstreamer0.10-plugins-base gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-x
 gtkhtml3.8 guile-1.6-libs hal hdparm hpijs hpijs-ppds ifupdown
 imagemagick inetutils-inetd initramfs-tools installation-report iptables
 iputils-ping irb1.8 kappfinder kate kcontrol kdebase kdebase-bin
 kdebase-data kdebase-kio-plugins kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a kdepasswd
 kdeprint kdesktop kfind khelpcenter kicker klibc-utils klipper kmenuedit
 konqueror konqueror-nsplugins konsole kpager kpersonalizer kppp ksmserver
 ksplash ksysguard ksysguardd ktip kwin libapache-mod-php4 libapr1
 libavahi-client3 libavahi-common-data libavahi-common3
 libavahi-compat-howl0 libavahi-compat-libdnssd1 libavahi-glib1
 libavahi-qt3-1 libblkid1 libbonobo2-0 libbonobo2-common libcaca0
 libcamel1.2-8 libcomerr2 libcucul0 libdbus-1-3 libdiscover1 libebook1.2-5
 libecal1.2-6 libedata-book1.2-2 libedata-cal1.2-5 libedataserver1.2-7
 libedataserverui1.2-6 libegroupwise1.2-10 libgail-common libgail17
 libgdome2-cpp-smart0c2a libgksu2-0 libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx
 libglib1.2 libglib1.2-dev libglu1-mesa libgnome-keyring0 libgnome-media0
 libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-bin libgnomevfs2-common libgnomevfs2-extra
 libgnutls13 libgphoto2-2 libgphoto2-port0 libgsf-1-114 libgsf-1-common
 libgsf-gnome-1-114 libgssapi2 libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0
 libgtkhtml3.8-15 libgtksourceview-common libgtksourceview1.0-0
 libguile-ltdl-1 libhal-storage1 libhal1 libhsqldb-java libjack0.100.0-0
 libklibc libkonq4 libmagick9 libmyspell3c2 libmysqlclient15off libneon26
 libnewt0.52 liboil0.3 libopencdk8 liborbit2 libpam-modules libpam-runtime
 libpam0g libpoppler0c2 libpoppler0c2-glib libreadline-ruby1.8
 libreadline5 libruby1.8 libsdl1.2debian libsdl1.2debian-alsa libselinux1
 libsmbclient libsnmp-base libsnmp9 libss2 libsvga1 libtasn1-3
 libtasn1-3-bin libtheora0 libtotem-plparser1 libtunepimp3 libuuid1
 libxalan2-java libxerces2-java libxklavier10 libxml2 libxml2-utils
 libxslt1.1 libxvidcore4 linux-kernel-headers locales mysql-client
 mysql-client-5.0 mysql-common mysql-server mysql-server-5.0 nano
 nfs-common openoffice.org openoffice.org-base openoffice.org-calc
 openoffice.org-common openoffice.org-core openoffice.org-draw
 openoffice.org-impress openoffice.org-java-common openoffice.org-math
 openoffice.org-writer openssh-client openssh-server php4 php4-common
 php4-mysql poppler-utils popularity-contest postgresql-7.4
 postgresql-client-7.4 postgresql-client-common postgresql-common
 python-central python-libxml2 python-newt python-numeric python-uno
 rdoc1.8 readline-common reportbug rhythmbox ruby1.8 strace svgalibg1 tar
 telnet thunderbird totem-gstreamer totem-mozilla ttf-opensymbol ucf vino
 vsftpd whiptail x11-common xorg xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-input-all
 xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-mga
 xsltproc xterm
The following packages are RECOMMENDED but will NOT be installed:
 avahi-daemon debconf-utils deskbar-applet epiphany-extensions fam
 foomatic-db-engine gnome-games-extra-data gnome-volume-manager jackd
 kamera kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdm kregexpeditor mailx mdetect
 mime-construct perl-suid python-cjkcodecs python-iconvcodec xresprobe
254 packages upgraded, 5 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/334MB of archives. After unpacking 24.8MB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] n
Abort.

Thanks for your help.


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Re: bad text rendering on Acer LCD

[Marko Randjelovic]

Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:

Hi,
I have an Acer 19" wide screen (AL1916W) which doesn't display text
properly, even on the terminal. I run GNOME on unstable, and this
problem shows in various resolutions I've tried, and the screen's own
resolution of 1440x900 is not available on GNOM's menu. Attached is
the output of of lshw.
The problem is probably due to not using the native resolution 1440x900. 
'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' would probably allow you to include this 
resolution in the list of resolutions available to X, but I have never 
tried it. You can simply edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and where you see the 
line which begins with "Modes" and continues with list of resolutions, 
add your native resolution at the end.



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Re: start xdm at boot

[Marko Randjelovic]

Arvind Marathe wrote:

Hi Claudio,
the problem is: there is no /etc/init.d/xdm file
  


Are you sure you have xdm installed? Run "dpkg-query -W xdm" to check 
it. If it is installed, try to reinstall it.


apt-get update
apt-get --reinstall install xdm


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Java EE installation - cannot find j2se 5

[Marko Randjelovic]

I installed sun-java with apt-get:

sun-java5-bin - 1.5.0-08-1
sun-java5-demo - 1.5.0-08-1
sun-java5-doc - 1.5.0-08-1
sun-java5-fonts - 1.5.0-08-1
sun-java5-jdk - 1.5.0-08-1
sun-java5-jre - 1.5.0-08-1
sun-java5-source - 1.5.0-08-1

Then I dowloaded java_app_platform_sdk-5_01-linux-nojdk.bin and ran it, 
but this message appeared:


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp#  
/sto/d/downloads/java_app_platform_sdk-5_01-linux-nojdk.bin

Checking available disk space...
Checking Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment...
Extracting Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment files...
Error: Could not find the required version of the Java(TM) 2 Runtime 
Environment.

This application needs version 1.5 or higher of the Java(TM) 2 Runtime
Environment. If the required Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment is not 
installed,

you can download it from the following website:
   http://java.sun.com/j2se
Or if you already have the required Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment
installed, try rerunning this application with the following usage:
   'java_app_platform_sdk-5_01-linux-nojdk.bin' -javahome installation directory>


JAVA_HOME is set to the proper value:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# echo $JAVA_HOME
/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ls $JAVA_HOME
bin  COPYRIGHT  demo  docs  ext  include  jre  lib  LICENSE  man  
README.html  sample src.zip  THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME.txt


I tried -javahome option pointing to /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun and 
/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre but again a message it cannot find 
proper jre version.



If someone could please help me with this problem.


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Re: Question

[Marko Randjelovic]

JOSE CHOMBA wrote:
Hello, I just download the 2 image of Debian Sarge 3.1 r3 on DVD 
and I'm trying to install it in my 2 laptops, and I can't the 
first Laptop is a Compaq Presario 2100 the problem is when I boot 
it from the dvd, it loads, but when the installer asks me about the 
language it freezes i mean i can't select anyting i have to power it 
off, the second laptop is a Hp pavilion zx5000 and it start to load 
and boot but the language doesn't even shows i mean the screen comes 
to compleatly dark, i have to press ctrl+alt+del to start again, i 
have another version of Debian 3.0 Woody (7 disks) and in my compaq 
presario 2100 boots, and everything i mean i can select , i start the 
linux and linux swap partitions and everything but when it has to copy 
the files it tells me that there is a problem with the cd, and asks me 
for a manual configuration or a mount driver, or something like i mean 
i can't finish the installation, so is there any solution to my 
problems ?? because i have linux in my desktop but i really need it my 
laptopsm thanks for the time.
 
Jose
 
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I would check if CD/DVD disks are correctly recorded by checking md5 
sums. There should be a file with md5 sums in the directory on the 
server where you downloaded images from. Then, if you have linux, run 
the command "md5sum /dev/cdrom". I don't know which program can be used 
on other systems.



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Direct rendering on Radeon 9550

[Marko Randjelovic]

I run Etch amd64 and glxinfo says

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp/cmp$ glxinfo|grep direct
Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
direct rendering: No
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect

Video card is Radeon 9550. I am using fglrx-driver. Here are some 
important parts of my xorg.conf




Section "Module"
   Load"bitmap"
   Load"dbe"
   Load"ddc"
   Load"dri"
   Load"extmod"
   Load"freetype"
   Load"glx"
   Load"int10"
   Load"record"
   Load"v4l"
   Load"vbe"
EndSection

...

Section "Device"
   Identifier"Radeon 9550"
   Driver"fglrx"
   BusID"PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

...

Section "Screen"
   Identifier"Default Screen"
   Device"Radeon 9550"
   Monitor"LCD"
   DefaultDepth24
   SubSection "Display"
   Depth1
   Modes"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
   Depth4
   Modes"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
   Depth8
   Modes"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
   Depth15
   Modes"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
   Depth16
   Modes"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
   Depth24
   Modes"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
   EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
   Identifier"Default Layout"
   Screen"Default Screen"
   InputDevice"Generic Keyboard"
   InputDevice"Configured Mouse"
EndSection

Section "DRI"
   Mode0666
EndSection

Is there some way to handle this?


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Re: Upgrading to Etch

[Marko Randjelovic]

michael bailey wrote:

I currently am running Debian Sarge (2.4.27 kernel)
 on an old Abit BE6-II motherboard with a Pentium III
 processor. The board appears to be failing now with
frequent freezes, so a new motherboard (ECS RS482-M)
and cpu (AMD Athlon 64) have been acquired.

 However, the new motherboard has an intergrated
graphics chip (ATI Express 200) and an ATI SB400 
 south bridge. This hardware requires at least a
2.6.11 kernel to work. 


It has been proposed to set up a 32 bit version of a
2.6 kernel from backports and first run it on the old
motherboard to check that this 2.6 kernel works okay.
The hardware would then be updated and then the 2.6
kernel would be run on the new hardware.

 I don't know a great deal about Linux, so would
appreciate help with the following questions :
  
 (a) Can I download the 2.6 kernel from backports 
 on to a CDROM and boot the old hardware from 
 that ? (I would leave the old 2.4.27 kernel 
 untouched, so that I could also boot the old 
 hardware with the 2.4 kernel).  


 The kernel I was thinking of downloading is :-

linux-image-2.6.16-1-686_2.6.16-11bpo1_i386.deb   
 
or possibly


linux-image-2.6.17-2-686_2.6.17-9~bpo.1_i386.deb 

Would either of these be okay ?  
 
I want to later upgrade to Etch, so I don't want to

get a kernel version greater than the version that the
stable Etch will have.

 (b) Assuming the 2.6 kernel from backports works okay
 on the new hardware, is it then possible to 
 upgrade the new hardware in the normal way
 (i.e using apt) to the stable version of Etch 
 (which, I understand will have a 2.6.18 kernel) 
 when that is released ?
 
Any help with the above problem would be much

appreciated.








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I think that should work. By installing new kernel, you won't lose 2.4 
kernel because it should only happen to appear new entry on Grub menu.



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Re: Problems booting

[Marko Randjelovic]

Jaume Alonso wrote:

Hello,

I'm a Debian testing user. A few days ago I recompiled the kernel 
(2.6.18) and I installed it in the "Debian way" (by creating a .deb 
package of the kernel and installing it). But I've got a problem: when 
I boot the system with the new kernel, appears a lot of times the 
message "modprobe: FATAL: Could not load 
/lib/modules/2.6.18-jaume/modules.dep". When it stops, the system 
continues booting normally, then it goes into the X and KDE and I have 
no problems then, all works perfectly.


I've tried to do "modprobe -l" and I get the list of the modules 
located in that folder (/lib/modules/2.6.18-jaume/). And I've checked 
with konqueror that the folder exists and has things inside, including 
the file "modules.dep".


Any idea to solve that?

Thanks in advance

Hi, Jaume.

I have never installed kernel the "Debian way", but anyway this message 
looks strange to me. Maybe you changed permissions on that file somehow. 
Or it is damaged. Open terminal, su to root and type


chown root:root /lib/modules/2.6.18-jaume/modules.dep
chmod 644 /lib/modules/2.6.18-jaume/modules.dep
depmod -a


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fglrx driver problems

[Marko Randjelovic]

With fglrx-driver package from debian, I didn't have direct rendering, 
and xv did not work, so I have downloaded 
ati-driver-installer-8.32.5-x86.x86_64.run from Ati site. However, 
building of Debian package fails


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# sh /ras/dld/ati-driver-installer-8.32.5-x86.x86_64.run 
--buildpkg Debian/etch

Creating directory fglrx-install
Verifying archive integrity... All good.
Uncompressing ATI Proprietary Linux 
Driver-8.32.5

==
ATI Technologies Linux Driver Installer/Packager
==
Generating package: Debian/etch
Package build failed!
Package build utility output:
dpkg-buildpackage: source package is fglrx-installer
dpkg-buildpackage: source version is 8.32.5-1
dpkg-buildpackage: source changed by ATI Technologies Inc. 


dpkg-buildpackage: host architecture amd64
dpkg-buildpackage: source version without epoch 8.32.5-1
debian/rules build
dh_testdir
make: dh_testdir: Command not found
make: *** [build] Error 127
Removing temporary directory: fglrx-install

Is there some way to get this driver working on Debian? I have Radeon 
9550 and with open source driver also no direct rendering. Architecture 
is amd64.



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Re: fglrx driver problems

[Marko Randjelovic]

Mathias Brodala wrote:

Install the debhelper package.
  
This helped to make packages, however even when upgrading with them, 
again no xv and no dri.

Not sure about amd64, but Direct Rendering works with 9600 on my machine.
(Running i386.) Could you attach your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log

I attached the files.

X Window System Version 7.1.1
Release Date: 12 May 2006
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.1.1
Build Operating System: UNKNOWN 
Current Operating System: Linux main 2.6.18-3-amd64 #1 SMP Mon Dec 4 17:04:37 CET 2006 x86_64
Build Date: 07 July 2006
	Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
	to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
	(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
	(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Tue Jan  2 17:45:25 2007
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(==) ServerLayout "Default Layout"
(**) |-->Screen "Default Screen" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "LCD"
(**) |   |-->Device "Radeon 9550"
(**) |-->Input Device "Generic Keyboard"
(**) |-->Input Device "Configured Mouse"
(WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc" does not exist.
	Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist.
	Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" does not exist.
	Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" does not exist.
	Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" does not exist.
	Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1" does not exist.
	Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi" does not exist.
	Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi" does not exist.
	Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType" does not exist.
	Entry deleted from font path.
(**) FontPath set to:
	/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,
	/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,
	/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,
	/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,
	/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi,
	/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi
(==) RgbPath set to "/etc/X11/rgb"
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
(**) Ignoring ABI Version
(II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket)
(II) Module ABI versions:
	X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.3
	X.Org Video Driver: 1.0
	X.Org XInput driver : 0.6
	X.Org Server Extension : 0.3
	X.Org Font Renderer : 0.5
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: "bitmap"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/fonts/libbitmap.so
(II) Module bitmap: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
	compiled for 7.1.1, module version = 1.0.0
	Module class: X.Org Font Renderer
	ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.5
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: "pcidata"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libpcidata.so
(II) Module pcidata: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
	compiled for 7.1.1, module version = 1.0.0
	ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 1.0
(++) using VT number 7

(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 10de,00e1 card , rev a1 class 06,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 10de,00e0 card 1458,0c11 rev a2 class 06,01,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:01:1: chip 10de,00e4 card 1458,0c11 rev a1 class 0c,05,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:02:0: chip 10de,00e7 card 1458,5004 rev a1 class 0c,03,10 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:02:1: chip 10de,00e7 card 1458,5004 rev a1 class 0c,03,10 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:02:2: chip 10de,00e8 card 1458,5004 rev a2 class 0c,03,20 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:05:0: chip 10de,00df card 1458,e000 rev a2 class 06,80,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:06:0: chip 10de,00ea card 1458,a002 rev a1 class 04,01,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:08:0: chip 10de,00e5 card 1458,5002 rev a2 class 01,01,8a hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:0a:0: chip 10de,00e3 card 1458,b002 rev a2 class 01,01,85 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:0b:0: chip 10de,00e2 card , rev a2 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:0e:0: chip 10de,00ed card , rev a2 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:18:0: chip 1022,1100 card , rev 00 class 06,00,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:18:1: chip 1022,1101 card , rev 00 class 06,00,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:18:2: chip 1022,1102 card , rev 00 class 06,00,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:18:3: chip 1022,1103 card , rev 00 class 06,00,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 1002,4153 card 1458,4050 rev 00 class 03,00,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 01:00:1: chip 1002,4173 card 1458,4051 rev 00 class 03,80,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (0,0,2), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 0 I/O range:
	[0] -1	0	0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
(II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range:
	[0] -1	0	0x - 0x (0x1) MX[B]
(II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range:
	[

Re: fglrx driver problems

[Marko Randjelovic]

Mathias Brodala wrote:

Could you try the radeon driver? I’m not much experienced with fglrx since I
haven’t used it for ages.

What is the output of the following commands after you changed to radeon?

$ lsmod | grep radeon
$ lsof /dev/dri/card0


Regards, Mathias
All right, but I am not sure if it supports dri with Radeon 9550. I read 
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_DRI_with_ATi_Open-Source_Drivers and it 
seams it (fully) supports only up to 9250.


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# lsmod | grep radeon
radeon116384  0
drm87080  1 radeon
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# lsof /dev/dri/card0
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#




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Re: fglrx driver problems

[Marko Randjelovic]

Mathias Brodala wrote:

The Gentoo is outdated then:

  

DESCRIPTION radeon  is  an  Xorg  driver for ATI RADEON based video cards. It
contains […] hardware  3D acceleration (experimental on R300 and R400 series
cards),



(From the radeon manpage.)

My Radeon 9600 has an RV350 chip.
  

And also from the same man page:

RV350   Radeon 9600PRO/9600SE/9600, M10/M11, FireGL T2 (2D only)

(no mention of 9550).
  

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# lsof /dev/dri/card0



Hm, not good. The Xorg process should be using this. What’s the Xorg.0.log
contents using the radeon driver?


Regards, Mathias
  
I attached the file. As I can see from it, my card is detected as "ATI 
Radeon 9600 AS (AGP)" and DRI cannot be activated because AGP is not 
available.


(WW) RADEON(0): [agp] AGP not available
(EE) RADEON(0): [agp] AGP failed to initialize. Disabling the DRI.


X Window System Version 7.1.1
Release Date: 12 May 2006
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.1.1
Build Operating System: UNKNOWN 
Current Operating System: Linux main 2.6.18-3-amd64 #1 SMP Mon Dec 4 17:04:37 CET 2006 x86_64
Build Date: 07 July 2006
	Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
	to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
	(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
	(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Wed Jan  3 10:58:39 2007
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(==) ServerLayout "Default Layout"
(**) |-->Screen "Default Screen" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "LCD"
(**) |   |-->Device "Radeon 9550"
(**) |-->Input Device "Generic Keyboard"
(**) |-->Input Device "Configured Mouse"
(WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc" does not exist.
	Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist.
	Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" does not exist.
	Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" does not exist.
	Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" does not exist.
	Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1" does not exist.
	Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi" does not exist.
	Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi" does not exist.
	Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType" does not exist.
	Entry deleted from font path.
(**) FontPath set to:
	/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,
	/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,
	/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,
	/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,
	/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi,
	/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi
(==) RgbPath set to "/etc/X11/rgb"
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
(**) Ignoring ABI Version
(II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket)
(II) Module ABI versions:
	X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.3
	X.Org Video Driver: 1.0
	X.Org XInput driver : 0.6
	X.Org Server Extension : 0.3
	X.Org Font Renderer : 0.5
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: "bitmap"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/fonts/libbitmap.so
(II) Module bitmap: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
	compiled for 7.1.1, module version = 1.0.0
	Module class: X.Org Font Renderer
	ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.5
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: "pcidata"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libpcidata.so
(II) Module pcidata: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
	compiled for 7.1.1, module version = 1.0.0
	ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 1.0
(++) using VT number 7

(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 10de,00e1 card , rev a1 class 06,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 10de,00e0 card 1458,0c11 rev a2 class 06,01,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:01:1: chip 10de,00e4 card 1458,0c11 rev a1 class 0c,05,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:02:0: chip 10de,00e7 card 1458,5004 rev a1 class 0c,03,10 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:02:1: chip 10de,00e7 card 1458,5004 rev a1 class 0c,03,10 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:02:2: chip 10de,00e8 card 1458,5004 rev a2 class 0c,03,20 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:05:0: chip 10de,00df card 1458,e000 rev a2 class 06,80,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:06:0: chip 10de,00ea card 1458,a002 rev a1 class 04,01,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:08:0: chip 10de,00e5 card 1458,5002 rev a2 class 01,01,8a hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:0a:0: chip 10de,00e3 card 1458,b002 rev a2 class 01,01,85 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:0b:0: chip 10de,00e2 card , rev a2 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:0e:0: chip 10de,00ed card , rev a2 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:18:0: chip 1022,1100 card , rev 00 class 06,00,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:18:1: chip 1022,1101 card , rev 00 class 06,00,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:18:2: chip 1022,1102 card , rev 00 class 06,00,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:18:3: chip 1022,11

Re: fglrx driver problems

[Marko Randjelovic]

Mathias Brodala wrote:
Is this module loaded? If it is not, then adding it to /etc/modules 
might be enough.

It is linked statically. Also, module radeon is loaded.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -r
2.6.18-3-amd64
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep CONFIG_AGP /boot/config-2.6.18-3-amd64
CONFIG_AGP=y
CONFIG_AGP_AMD64=y
CONFIG_AGP_INTEL=m
CONFIG_AGP_SIS=m
CONFIG_AGP_VIA=m
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lsmod|grep radeon
radeon116384  0
drm87080  1 radeon


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Manual java alternative

[Marko Randjelovic]

I installed jdk1.6.0 in /opt by running sun's package 
"jdk-6-linux-amd64.bin". Now I need to update alternatives, but there 
are 64 of them and that would be to complicated. I made a file 
.jdk.jinfo in /usr/lib/jvm and tried to run update-java-alternatives, 
but it looks like it doesn't work.


Is there some way to easily switch to new java that is not installed 
with .deb? Or is there some Debian package for jdk6 or jdk-1.5.0_8, 
since this newest 1.5.0_10 made me problems?


regards


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Re: Manual java alternative

[Marko Randjelovic]

Mathias Brodala wrote:

Hello Marko.

Marko Randjelovic, 04.01.2007 11:34:
  

Or is there some Debian package for jdk6 or jdk-1.5.0_8,
since this newest 1.5.0_10 made me problems?



Look at here:
http://snapshot.debian.net/cgi-bin/packages.cgi?package=sun-java5&details=details


Regards, Mathias

  

Thanks Mathias. I entered

deb http://snapshot.debian.net/archive pool sun-java5
deb-src http://snapshot.debian.net/archive pool sun-java5

in /etc/apt/sources.list

and tried to install packages, however apt-get reports

E: Version '1.5.0-08*' for 'sun-java5-doc' was not found

and same for fonts,jre and source. If I remove them all:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/apt# apt-get install sun-java5-bin=1.5.0-08* 
sun-java5-demo=1.5.0-08* sun-java5-jdk=1.5.0-08*

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Selected version 1.5.0-08-1.1 (snapshot.debian.net) for sun-java5-bin
Selected version 1.5.0-08-1.1 (snapshot.debian.net) for sun-java5-demo
Selected version 1.5.0-08-1.1 (snapshot.debian.net) for sun-java5-jdk
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 sun-java5-bin: Depends: sun-java5-jre (= 1.5.0-08-1.1) but 
1.5.0-10-1.1 is to be installed
 sun-java5-demo: Depends: sun-java5-jre (= 1.5.0-08-1.1) but 
1.5.0-10-1.1 is to be installed
 sun-java5-jdk: Depends: sun-java5-jre (= 1.5.0-08-1.1) but 
1.5.0-10-1.1 is to be installed
 sun-java5-jre: Depends: sun-java5-bin (= 1.5.0-10-1.1) but 
1.5.0-08-1.1 is to be installed or
 ia32-sun-java5-bin (= 1.5.0-10-1.1) but it is 
not going to be installed

E: Broken packages

So, they don't have all needed packages, right?


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Re: Manual java alternative

[Marko Randjelovic]

Mathias Brodala wrote:

Hello Marko.

Marko Randjelovic, 04.01.2007 11:34:
  

Or is there some Debian package for jdk6 or jdk-1.5.0_8,
since this newest 1.5.0_10 made me problems?



Look at here:
http://snapshot.debian.net/cgi-bin/packages.cgi?package=sun-java5&details=details


Regards, Mathias

  

Thanks Mathias. I entered

deb http://snapshot.debian.net/archive pool sun-java5
deb-src http://snapshot.debian.net/archive pool sun-java5

in /etc/apt/sources.list

and tried to install packages, however apt-get reports

E: Version '1.5.0-08*' for 'sun-java5-doc' was not found

and same for fonts,jre and source. If I remove them all:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/apt# apt-get install sun-java5-bin=1.5.0-08* 
sun-java5-demo=1.5.0-08* sun-java5-jdk=1.5.0-08*

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Selected version 1.5.0-08-1.1 (snapshot.debian.net) for sun-java5-bin
Selected version 1.5.0-08-1.1 (snapshot.debian.net) for sun-java5-demo
Selected version 1.5.0-08-1.1 (snapshot.debian.net) for sun-java5-jdk
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 sun-java5-bin: Depends: sun-java5-jre (= 1.5.0-08-1.1) but 
1.5.0-10-1.1 is to be installed
 sun-java5-demo: Depends: sun-java5-jre (= 1.5.0-08-1.1) but 
1.5.0-10-1.1 is to be installed
 sun-java5-jdk: Depends: sun-java5-jre (= 1.5.0-08-1.1) but 
1.5.0-10-1.1 is to be installed
 sun-java5-jre: Depends: sun-java5-bin (= 1.5.0-10-1.1) but 
1.5.0-08-1.1 is to be installed or
 ia32-sun-java5-bin (= 1.5.0-10-1.1) but it is 
not going to be installed

E: Broken packages

So, they don't have all needed packages, right?



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Re: Manual java alternative

[Marko Randjelovic]

Mathias Brodala wrote:

Hello Marko.

Marko Randjelovic, 04.01.2007 12:37:
  

Mathias Brodala wrote:


Marko Randjelovic, 04.01.2007 11:34:
 
  

Or is there some Debian package for jdk6 or jdk-1.5.0_8,
since this newest 1.5.0_10 made me problems?



Look at here:
http://snapshot.debian.net/cgi-bin/packages.cgi?package=sun-java5&details=details

  

Thanks Mathias. I entered

deb http://snapshot.debian.net/archive pool sun-java5
deb-src http://snapshot.debian.net/archive pool sun-java5

in /etc/apt/sources.list

and tried to install packages, however apt-get reports

E: Version '1.5.0-08*' for 'sun-java5-doc' was not found

and same for fonts,jre and source. If I remove them all:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/apt# apt-get install sun-java5-bin=1.5.0-08*
sun-java5-demo=1.5.0-08* sun-java5-jdk=1.5.0-08*
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Selected version 1.5.0-08-1.1 (snapshot.debian.net) for sun-java5-bin
Selected version 1.5.0-08-1.1 (snapshot.debian.net) for sun-java5-demo
Selected version 1.5.0-08-1.1 (snapshot.debian.net) for sun-java5-jdk
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 sun-java5-bin: Depends: sun-java5-jre (= 1.5.0-08-1.1) but 1.5.0-10-1.1
is to be installed
 sun-java5-demo: Depends: sun-java5-jre (= 1.5.0-08-1.1) but
1.5.0-10-1.1 is to be installed
 sun-java5-jdk: Depends: sun-java5-jre (= 1.5.0-08-1.1) but 1.5.0-10-1.1
is to be installed
 sun-java5-jre: Depends: sun-java5-bin (= 1.5.0-10-1.1) but 1.5.0-08-1.1
is to be installed or
 ia32-sun-java5-bin (= 1.5.0-10-1.1) but it is
not going to be installed
E: Broken packages

So, they don't have all needed packages, right?



They do[0], but you have to explicitely tell APT that it should install all
packages in a specific version. At the moment you forgot to tell APT that it
should install sun-java5-jre in version 1.5.0-08*, too.


Regards, Mathias

[0]
http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2006/11/16/debian/pool/non-free/s/sun-java5/sun-java5-jre_1.5.0-08-1.1_all.deb

  


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/apt# apt-get install sun-java5-bin=1.5.0-08* 
sun-java5-demo=1.5.0-08* sun-java5-doc=1.5.0-08* 
sun-java5-fonts=1.5.0-08* sun-java5-jdk=1.* sun-java5-jre=1.5.0-08* 
sun-java5-source=1.5.0-08*

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Selected version 1.5.0-08-1.1 (snapshot.debian.net) for sun-java5-bin
Selected version 1.5.0-08-1.1 (snapshot.debian.net) for sun-java5-demo
E: Version '1.5.0-08*' for 'sun-java5-doc' was not found

But you can download

http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2006/11/16/debian/pool/non-free/s/sun-java5/sun-java5-doc_1.5.0-08-1.1_all.deb

???


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Re: Manual java alternative

[Marko Randjelovic]

Now you can try two more things:

1) Give the exact version number instead of the wildcard *.
2) Just download the packages and install them manually via dpkg.


Regards, Mathias
  

Thanks, now I can start Eclipse (solution 2).
Yet, I would like to use new Java 6. I was monitoring memory usage and 
found out it is much more conserving. Does someone have some idea about 
this?



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Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

[Marko Randjelovic]

Kumar Appaiah wrote:

Dear Debian users,

A couple of my friends who were using Sarge, on machines with 128 MB
of RAM and 256 MB of RAM have complained that an upgrade from Sarge to
Etch has slowed their machine down considerably. This is irrespective
of the Window Manager. Is there any particular reason why this could
be happening? I could not pin down anything in particular which could
cause this to happen.

Thanks.

Kumar
I think it is memory issue. Programs generally are using more memory 
with new releases. Use 'free' command to see your memory situation. 
'top' can tell you which processes are consuming most memory. You can 
use also System Monitor with gnome or KDE System Guard but they use more 
guess what: memory. :)



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Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

[Marko Randjelovic]

Douglas Tutty wrote:

I run amd64 Etch on an AMD Athlon 3800+, one GB stick DDR2-800 ECC
memory (I know, to really get the dual data rate I need two sticks,
that's next year's upgrade).  Since I use SATA drives I couldn't use
Sarge so don't know if Etch is slower on this box.  My other box runs
Sarge but its a 486.  I would hazzard a guess that my amd64 is faster
than my 486 :-)

My top shows Mem: 1027728k total and under normal load including
watching a DVD is 97% idle, under 1% waiting. 

Do you run i386 or amd64 version of Debian?

 I __finally__ figured out
how to get it to use swap and spend some time waiting:

have aptitude upgrading (actual installation not downloading)
run long S.M.A.R.T. self-tests on sda and sdb
(dual SATA drives in raid1)
run a full backup (making tar.bz2 files)
run galeon
watch a dvd on VLC, deinterlace-blend, expand to full-screen
(1600 x 1200)


Then I use all of 84k swap, wait 25%, idle 94%.  Swap is encrypted.

Don't bother yourself.  Just use Java. ;)

top - 23:18:30 up 13:42,  5 users,  load average: 0.28, 0.84, 1.09
Tasks:  97 total,   3 running,  94 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s):  0.8%us,  0.4%sy,  0.0%ni, 98.8%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  
0.0%st

Mem:704704k total,   697872k used, 6832k free, 6244k buffers
Swap:  2104472k total,84860k used,  2019612k free,   143872k cached

 PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND
12761 bora  15   0  999m 277m  51m S  0.0 40.3   0:58.36 java
12572 tomcat5   25   0  429m 153m  45m S  0.0 22.2   0:20.35 java
10741 bora  15   0  265m  67m  18m S  0.0  9.8   0:42.74 icedove-bin
12807 bora  15   0  195m  43m  19m S  0.0  6.3   0:05.39 firefox-bin
7973 bora  15   0  125m  24m  12m S  0.0  3.6   0:11.37 gnome-panel
11166 bora  16   0  124m  23m  12m R  0.0  3.4   0:09.19 gnome-terminal
7884 root  15   0  192m  20m 6944 R  0.4  3.0  11:09.05 Xorg
7987 bora  15   0  107m  14m  10m S  0.0  2.2   0:12.44 wnck-applet
7975 bora  15   0  176m  14m  10m S  0.0  2.1   0:02.38 nautilus
8010 bora  15   0  132m  12m 9876 S  0.0  1.8   0:01.08 clock-applet
8007 bora  15   0  116m  12m 9928 S  0.0  1.8   0:01.04 mixer_applet2
8005 bora  15   0  115m  11m 8676 S  0.0  1.7   0:01.75 gnome-keyboard-
7961 bora  15   0 62968  10m 8548 S  0.4  1.5   0:13.97 metacity
7959 bora  15   0  113m 6976 5552 S  0.0  1.0   0:03.27 gnome-settings-
7758 mysql 16   0  143m 5060 2236 S  0.0  0.7   0:00.67 mysqld
9471 bora  15   0  110m 4976 4748 S  0.0  0.7   0:00.11 evolution-data-
7900 bora  15   0 92772 4964  S  0.0  0.7   0:00.54 gnome-session
3185 bora  15   0 24036 3872 1672 S  0.0  0.5   0:01.04 gconfd-2
12451 bora  15   0 13240 3468 1484 S  0.0  0.5   0:00.09 bash


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Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

[Marko Randjelovic]

Douglas Tutty wrote:


The only thing I touch java for is javascript in the browser so I can
use bloatpages when necessary.  Why else support-by-using such a
nasty, bloated, waste of processing?  Then again, I only program in two
languages: python for the front end and, if necessary for speed, fortran
for the back end.  Since I'm used to a 486 (and started out with a Z-80)
I try to reduce load subconsciously.
  
I really understand you, I started with Commodore 128, and first started 
to think about resources with Amiga 500.

Why do you use a terminal that takes 23m, a file manager that takes 14m,
what is a 115m keyboard?  
That gnome-keyboard-applet I use to switch keyboard layouts. I live in 
non-English speaking country. And always switching to console to switch 
layout is not very practical, and this applet supports cycling through 
layouts with one key stroke. Only Gnome and KDE have such thing.

No wonder your system is slow.
  
I didn't complain my system is slow (although it is when running 
Eclipse, it's the first java on the list), Kumar did.



You really need to find out why you aren't showing all your memory and
if you want to run all these aps concurrently with good performance you
should add more memory.

Doug.
  


In which sense I am not showing all memory?

Regards,
Marko


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Re: How to cool my cpu temperature?

[Marko Randjelovic]

surachai locharoen wrote:

it has sound "woe woe weo"

--
  
Than fan of your CPU is not working well. Just to make sure, if you 
don't have windows, try Knoppix or some other CD bootable distro. If it 
is the same, you should replace the fan.



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Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

[Marko Randjelovic]

andy wrote:
Thanks Geoff. I had also read that during the course of my earlier 
research on this issue. But ...


:~$ uname -r
2.6.18-3-686

Viola! 686 and still no 1GB mem recognised, only 3/4s (776400KB) of 
it, as seen below:


:~$ free
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:776400 732580  43820  0  36980 317528
-/+ buffers/cache: 378072 398328
Swap:  2931852 922931760

It would appear that I'm looking at either just accepting this fact or 
will have to recompile my kernel, which I am a tad phobic about to be 
frank.


Are you sure you have 1GB? What does BIOS report when you restart your 
computer?



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Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

[Marko Randjelovic]

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

bah! I spit on your shiny new commodore. *my* commodore was a vic-20
with 3.5k ram. Now that taught you how to control resources. buncha
new-fangled whipper-snappers. 


seriously though, we used to max out that little machine. like this
little trick. a '?' was shorthand for 'print' *and* it used less
memory. but when you 'list'ed the line that contained it, the
interpreter would expand the '?' into a 'print'. If you were really
packing the code in, that would make you line longer than the 80 char
max so you'dhave to go back in and convert all your 'print's back to
'?'s.

yeah. those were the days...

A
  


In fact, I never figured out how they manage to consume all that memory. 
It must be they are working hard on it. :D


I cannot get away from feeling that it is a great waste of resources, 
not computer, but resources for production of new memory, processors, 
hard disk drives, etc. You spend not only material, but also energy, and 
of course human work. On the other hand, you save time of programmers.


Is it really worth it or is the computer industry just looking for a way 
to keep their business going? Probably a good question, but you don't 
have to answer since it's a little of topic here. :)



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Re: Does XFS work with LVM?

[Marko Randjelovic]

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:

That is correct.  You cannot make XFS shrink, only grow.  However, this
does not prevent you from using it on LVM.  You just can't make the
logical volumes any smaller, only larger.  Out of curiousity, why XFS?
Why not ext3?

  
And why ext3? I would never recommend it, since it eats you 10% of the 
partition. I don't remember the exact number, but it's around that. So 
if you have partition of 10GB, if you format the partition with 
reiserfs, JFS, XFS, you have 10GB. With ext3 you have 9GB.



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Re: Does XFS work with LVM?

[Marko Randjelovic]

Magnus Pedersen wrote:

Marko Randjelovic wrote:

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:

That is correct.  You cannot make XFS shrink, only grow.  However, this
does not prevent you from using it on LVM.  You just can't make the
logical volumes any smaller, only larger.  Out of curiousity, why XFS?
Why not ext3?

  
And why ext3? I would never recommend it, since it eats you 10% of 
the partition. I don't remember the exact number, but it's around 
that. So if you have partition of 10GB, if you format the partition 
with reiserfs, JFS, XFS, you have 10GB. With ext3 you have 9GB.




Are you talking about reserved blocks?
If that is the case take a look at the -m switch for mkfs.ext3

/Magnus

I cannot try right now, but I remember I tried everything that time and 
searched the web and everything suggested it cannot be better.



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Re: Does XFS work with LVM?

[Marko Randjelovic]

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:

mke2fs(8) (which is what you get when you run 'man mkfs.ext3'), states:
   -m reserved-blocks-percentage
  Specify the percentage of the filesystem blocks reserved for the
  super-user.   This  avoids  fragmentation, and allows root-owned
  daemons, such as syslogd(8), to continue to  function  correctly
  after non-privileged processes are prevented from writing to the
  filesystem.  The default percentage is 5%.

So, the default is 5%, and you can make it as small or as large as you
want.  Incidentally, that is a *good* thing, since it prevents a rouge
unprivileged process from crashing the system by filling the disks with
crap.
  

I think I tried that option, too.

Of course, you are more than welcome to use reiserfs, JFS, or XFS.
However, reiserfs, from my understanding, has its own set of issues and
JFS and XFS are best left to "experts" or at least to people who know
what they are doing.  For example, please read these two threads about
XFS:

http://oss.sgi.com/archives/xfs/2005-06/msg00155.html
http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/6/29/10

  

I recommend also

http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/aix/library/au-unix-reiserFS/index.html
http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/388

People had problems with reiserfs, but that was long ago. It is true 
that traditionaly ext3 is most reliable, but now reiserfs has 
data=journal option that seems to improve reliability, as it states, in 
the case of disaster, but also reduces write speed.


I myself am using reiserfs on all both my machines. On my desktop 
computer since 2004 (a few months xfs), and on router since feb-2006. 
Router is always on, and last year I had at least 50 power failures, and 
no single problem. I would like to mention that there is always writing 
to the drive. Also, while I used xfs, there was one situation, but it 
was repaired with fsck.


My friend has similar configuration. He had serious damage on power 
failure which he mostly managed to recover from, but on that drive also 
appeared bad sectors.



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Re: modprobe

[Marko Randjelovic]

Gregor Schneider wrote:

Hi guys,

I'm having a problem with the installation of vsftp.

I'm getting a weird error (500 oops...). When googeling for this
error, I found that a

"modprobe capability" helps to fix this error.

Since I'm quite new to Linux, I'm wondering if there's a possibility
that "capability" gets loaded automatically so that I don't have to
manually call "modprobe capability" after every system-boot.

Could somebody please let me know how this is done or where I could 
look it up?


I'm running Edge, BTW.

TIA

Greg
I think you should give us more information. You should cite whole error 
message and it's not clear to me if you have a problem trying to install 
vsftpd or using installed program. If it's first case, then you are 
probably trying to install the program with dpkg, and don't have other 
packages it depends upon. Try using apt-get:


apt-get install vsftpd


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Re: fglrx driver problems

[Marko Randjelovic]

My original post was about Ati proprietary fglrx driver. Then Mathias 
proposed free radeon driver, but with it also no direct rendering. Since 
this driver is free software, maybe I should file a bug report about 
this? My Etch system is fully upgraded.


I am not sure if it's a bug of xorg driver or of some kernel module. 
Should I file a bug report at x.org ot at Debian?



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Re: New server: Sarge or Etch?

[Marko Randjelovic]

Marco De Vitis wrote:

Hi,
in the next few days I'll have to replace an old server running Debian 
Sarge with a new machine, and I was wondering: maybe I should directly 
install Etch on it, now that it almost reached its "stable" status?


I know I could install Sarge and then upgrade to Etch afterwards, but 
a previous upgrade from Woody to Sarge was not totally successful, so 
I'd prefer to avoid this, if possible.


It's a production server so stability is important, although it mostly 
serves as a Samba PDC and file sharing machine, mailserver only for 
internal (LAN) mail, and some other minor stuff (HTTP, Jabber...).


Thanks.

You can check bug reports to see if packages you are using are affected 
with some bugs that can cause you problems. Etch is not quite stable, 
look at http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/. Sarge had less than 10 
critical bugs when released and Etch currently has around 100. It don't 
know how much will be fixed and when, you can try to predict it from the 
graph.



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APT Strange Behaviour (Priorities)

[Marko Randjelovic]

I use backports repo for Etch and when I put it to priority 500 (explicitely in 
/etc/apt/preferences), "apt-get
dist-upgrade" says it wants to upgrade wine. If I don't say anything, it 
doesn't. Why is this happening, since default
priority should also be 500?

/etc/apt/sources.list :

---
#
# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot amd64 Binary-1 
(20061009)]/ etch contrib main

deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib

deb http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/ etch contrib main non-free
deb-src http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/ etch contrib main non-free

deb http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/ testing contrib main non-free
deb-src http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/ testing contrib main non-free

deb http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main contrib non-free

deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ etch main # mplayer amd64 acroread
# deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian/ etch main
# deb http://tonelli.sns.it/pub/mplayer/etch/ ./
# deb http://www.tux.org/pub/java/debian/ testing non-free # java amd64
# deb http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian/ testing contrib main non-free 
restricted # cpuburn-in i386 acroread fontovi
# deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ etch non-free
# deb http://dotdeb.pimpmylinux.org/ sarge all
# deb http://www.debian-desktop.org/pub/linux/debian/kde-goodies/ . . # kde xorg
# deb http://www.os-works.com/debian/ testing main

#deb http://snapshot.debian.net/archive pool sun-java5
#deb-src http://snapshot.debian.net/archive pool sun-java5

#deb http://uqm.debian.net/ unstable/
#deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free

deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates main restricted universe 
multiverse
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security main restricted universe 
multiverse


/etc/apt/preferences :


Package: sun-java5-bin
Pin: version 1.5.0-08-1.1
Pin-Priority: 1001

Package: sun-java5-demo
Pin: version 1.5.0-08-1.1
Pin-Priority: 1001

Package: sun-java5-doc
Pin: version 1.5.0-08-1.1
Pin-Priority: 1001

Package: sun-java5-fonts
Pin: version 1.5.0-08-1.1
Pin-Priority: 1001

Package: sun-java5-jdk
Pin: version 1.5.0-08-1.1
Pin-Priority: 1001

Package: sun-java5-jre
Pin: version 1.5.0-08-1.1
Pin-Priority: 1001

Package: sun-java5-source
Pin: version 1.5.0-08-1.1
Pin-Priority: 1001

Package: grub
Pin: version 0.97-23
Pin-Priority: 1001

Package: ia32-libs
Pin: version 2.2
Pin-Priority: 1001

Package: localization-config
Pin: version 1.0~rc2
Pin-Priority: 1001

Package: ia32-libs-kde
Pin: version 7.2
Pin-Priority: 1001

Package: *
Pin: origin www.backports.org
Pin-Priority: 500

Package: *
Pin: origin archive.ubuntu.com
Pin-Priority: 350

Package: *
Pin: origin security.ubuntu.com
Pin-Priority: 350

Package: *
Pin: release o=Debian,a=stable
Pin-Priority: 900

Package: *
Pin: release o=Debian,a=testing
Pin-Priority: 300


/etc/apt/apt.conf :


APT::Authentication::TrustCDROM "true";
Acquire::http::Proxy "false";

APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists 1;
APT::Periodic::Download-Upgradeable-Packages 1;
//APT::Default-Release etch-backports;


# cat apt.conf.d/*
DPkg::Pre-Install-Pkgs { "/usr/bin/apt-listchanges --apt || test $? -ne 0"; };
DPkg::Tools::Options::/usr/bin/apt-listchanges::Version "2";
// Pre-configure all packages with debconf before they are installed.
// If you don't like it, comment it out.
DPkg::Pre-Install-Pkgs {"/usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt || true";};
APT::Cache-Limit "26777216";


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Re: APT Strange Behaviour (Priorities)

[Marko Randjelovic]

main:~# apt-cache policy | grep -i backport
   1 http://www.backports.org etch-backports/non-free Packages
 release o=Backports.org archive,a=etch-backports,l=Backports.org 
archive,c=non-free
 origin www.backports.org
   1 http://www.backports.org etch-backports/contrib Packages
 release o=Backports.org archive,a=etch-backports,l=Backports.org 
archive,c=contrib
 origin www.backports.org
   1 http://www.backports.org etch-backports/main Packages
 release o=Backports.org archive,a=etch-backports,l=Backports.org 
archive,c=main
 origin www.backports.org

It looks like apt have an idea backports.org has priority of 1 when there is no 
entry in preferences file. Why?

Don't get confused, since I have made some modifications to files. Now 
backports.org is identified by release statement,
not origin.

Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Wed,16.Jul.08, 00:03:45, Marko Randjelovic wrote:
>> I use backports repo for Etch and when I put it to priority 500 (explicitely 
>> in /etc/apt/preferences), "apt-get
>> dist-upgrade" says it wants to upgrade wine. If I don't say anything, it 
>> doesn't. Why is this happening, since default
>> priority should also be 500?
>  
> 'apt-cache policy' will show you apt's idea of priorities.
> 
> Regards,
> Andrei


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Re: APT Strange Behaviour (Priorities)

[Marko Randjelovic]

> It looks like apt have an idea backports.org has priority of 1 when there is 
> no entry in preferences file. Why?

Every other priorities are recognized correctly.


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Re: APT Strange Behaviour (Priorities)

[Marko Randjelovic]

Marko Randjelovic wrote:
>> It looks like apt have an idea backports.org has priority of 1 when there is 
>> no entry in preferences file. Why?
> 
> Every other priorities are recognized correctly.
> 
> 

Also, there is no mention of priority=1 in /etc/apt/preferences.


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Re: APT Strange Behaviour (Priorities)

[Marko Randjelovic]

Thanks, Daniel, for this helpful information.

I just discovered another similar paradox. I tried to get source package for 
pidgin from backports.org. That repository
was explicitly pinned at 500 and testing at 290. But, look

main:~# apt-get source pidgin
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Need to get 13.2MB of source archives.
Get:1 http://ftp2.de.debian.org testing/main pidgin 2.4.3-1 (dsc) [1800B]
Get:2 http://ftp2.de.debian.org testing/main pidgin 2.4.3-1 (tar) [13.1MB]
Get:3 http://ftp2.de.debian.org testing/main pidgin 2.4.3-1 (diff) [59.0kB]
Fetched 13.2MB in 8m46s (25.0kB/s)
gpg: Signature made Wed 02 Jul 2008 07:21:28 PM CEST using DSA key ID B70E403B
gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found
dpkg-source: extracting pidgin in pidgin-2.4.3
dpkg-source: unpacking pidgin_2.4.3.orig.tar.gz
dpkg-source: applying ./pidgin_2.4.3-1.diff.gz

So, it is downloading from testing, although it has lower priority. How could I 
make it chose backports.org?


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Re: APT Strange Behaviour (Priorities)

[Marko Randjelovic]

Daniel Burrows wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 04:48:36PM +0200, Marko Randjelovic <[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]> was heard to say:
>> Thanks, Daniel, for this helpful information.
>>
>> I just discovered another similar paradox. I tried to get source package for 
>> pidgin from backports.org. That repository
>> was explicitly pinned at 500 and testing at 290. But, look
>>
>> main:~# apt-get source pidgin
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> Building dependency tree... Done
>> Need to get 13.2MB of source archives.
>> Get:1 http://ftp2.de.debian.org testing/main pidgin 2.4.3-1 (dsc) [1800B]
>> Get:2 http://ftp2.de.debian.org testing/main pidgin 2.4.3-1 (tar) [13.1MB]
>> Get:3 http://ftp2.de.debian.org testing/main pidgin 2.4.3-1 (diff) [59.0kB]
>> Fetched 13.2MB in 8m46s (25.0kB/s)
>> gpg: Signature made Wed 02 Jul 2008 07:21:28 PM CEST using DSA key ID 
>> B70E403B
>> gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found
>> dpkg-source: extracting pidgin in pidgin-2.4.3
>> dpkg-source: unpacking pidgin_2.4.3.orig.tar.gz
>> dpkg-source: applying ./pidgin_2.4.3-1.diff.gz
>>
>> So, it is downloading from testing, although it has lower priority. How 
>> could I make it chose backports.org?
> 
>   I don't have time to check, but I bet that "source" is ignoring
> priorities.  You should be able to select it explicitly with
> "apt-get source pidgin/etch-backports" or "apt-get source pidgin=".
> 
>   Daniel
> 
> 

main:~# apt-get source pidgin/etch-backports
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
E: Unable to find a source package for pidgin/etch-backports
main:~# apt-get source pidgin=2.3.1
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
E: Unable to find a source package for pidgin
main:~# apt-get source pidgin=2.3.1*
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
E: Unable to find a source package for pidgin
main:~# apt-get source pidgin=2.3*
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
E: Unable to find a source package for pidgin
main:~# apt-get source pidgin=2.3.1-2~bpo40+1
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
E: Unable to find a source package for pidgin



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Re: APT Strange Behaviour (Priorities)

[Marko Randjelovic]

Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2008-07-18 19:18 +0200, Marko Randjelovic wrote:
> 
>> main:~# apt-get source pidgin/etch-backports
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> Building dependency tree... Done
>> E: Unable to find a source package for pidgin/etch-backports
>> main:~# apt-get source pidgin=2.3.1
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> Building dependency tree... Done
>> E: Unable to find a source package for pidgin
>> main:~# apt-get source pidgin=2.3.1*
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> Building dependency tree... Done
>> E: Unable to find a source package for pidgin
>> main:~# apt-get source pidgin=2.3*
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> Building dependency tree... Done
>> E: Unable to find a source package for pidgin
>> main:~# apt-get source pidgin=2.3.1-2~bpo40+1
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> Building dependency tree... Done
>> E: Unable to find a source package for pidgin
> 
> Small wonder if you have no deb-src entry for backports.org in your
> sources.list.
> 
> Sven
> 
> 

I was so convinced I had it, but it appeared opposite. Sorry for this 
unnecessary question.


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dbus - configure error - i386

[Marko Randjelovic]

I setup i386 etch chroot on amd64 etch using debootstrap and installed
build-essential with no problem. I need dbus to satisfy buld-dep for pidgin. But
threre is problem in configure step.


main:/# apt-get install dbus
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  libdbus-1-3 libexpat1 libice6 libsm6 libx11-6 libx11-data libxau6 libxdmcp6
x11-common
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  dbus libdbus-1-3 libexpat1 libice6 libsm6 libx11-6 libx11-data libxau6
libxdmcp6 x11-common
0 upgraded, 10 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
Need to get 1823kB of archives.
After unpacking 5636kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
Get:1 http://ftp.de.debian.org etch/main x11-common 1:7.1.0-19 [338kB]
Get:2 http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main libdbus-1-3 1.0.2-1+etch1 
[269kB]
Get:3 http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main dbus 1.0.2-1+etch1 [351kB]
Get:4 http://ftp.de.debian.org etch/main libxau6 1:1.0.1-2 [6986B]
Get:5 http://ftp.de.debian.org etch/main libxdmcp6 1:1.0.1-2 [10.7kB]
Get:6 http://ftp.de.debian.org etch/main libx11-data 2:1.0.3-7 [157kB]
Get:7 http://ftp.de.debian.org etch/main libx11-6 2:1.0.3-7 [567kB]
Get:8 http://ftp.de.debian.org etch/main libexpat1 1.95.8-3.4 [62.9kB]
Get:9 http://ftp.de.debian.org etch/main libice6 1:1.0.1-2 [42.6kB]
Get:10 http://ftp.de.debian.org etch/main libsm6 1:1.0.1-3 [18.0kB]
Fetched 1823kB in 1m4s (28.4kB/s)
Preconfiguring packages ...
Selecting previously deselected package x11-common.
(Reading database ... 13010 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking x11-common (from .../x11-common_1%3a7.1.0-19_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libxau6.
Unpacking libxau6 (from .../libxau6_1%3a1.0.1-2_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libxdmcp6.
Unpacking libxdmcp6 (from .../libxdmcp6_1%3a1.0.1-2_i386.deb) ...
Setting up x11-common (7.1.0-19) ...

Selecting previously deselected package libx11-data.
(Reading database ... 13055 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking libx11-data (from .../libx11-data_2%3a1.0.3-7_all.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libx11-6.
Unpacking libx11-6 (from .../libx11-6_2%3a1.0.3-7_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libdbus-1-3.
Unpacking libdbus-1-3 (from .../libdbus-1-3_1.0.2-1+etch1_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libexpat1.
Unpacking libexpat1 (from .../libexpat1_1.95.8-3.4_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libice6.
Unpacking libice6 (from .../libice6_1%3a1.0.1-2_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libsm6.
Unpacking libsm6 (from .../libsm6_1%3a1.0.1-3_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package dbus.
Unpacking dbus (from .../dbus_1.0.2-1+etch1_i386.deb) ...
Setting up libxau6 (1.0.1-2) ...

Setting up libxdmcp6 (1.0.1-2) ...

Setting up libx11-data (1.0.3-7) ...
Setting up libx11-6 (1.0.3-7) ...

Setting up libdbus-1-3 (1.0.2-1+etch1) ...

Setting up libexpat1 (1.95.8-3.4) ...

Setting up libice6 (1.0.1-2) ...

Setting up libsm6 (1.0.1-3) ...

Setting up dbus (1.0.2-1+etch1) ...
Adding group `messagebus' (GID 102) ...
Done.
Adding system user `messagebus' (UID 100) ...
Adding new user `messagebus' (UID 100) with group `messagebus' ...
Not creating home directory `/var/run/dbus'.
Starting system message bus: dbusCould not tell if SELinux is enabled: No such
file or directory
SELinux pre-initialization failed
invoke-rc.d: initscript dbus, action "start" failed.
dpkg: error processing dbus (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 dbus
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)


I setup amd64 chroot and all goes well. In fact, it shows all messages as on
i386, but not error messages at the end.

Setting up dbus (1.0.2-1+etch1) ...
Adding group `messagebus' (GID 102) ...
Done.
Adding system user `messagebus' (UID 100) ...
Adding new user `messagebus' (UID 100) with group `messagebus' ...
Not creating home directory `/var/run/dbus'.


This is `dpkg -l dbus` on amd64 chroot:


ii  dbus  1.0.2-1+etch1 simple
interprocess messaging system


On i386:


iF  dbus  1.0.2-1+etch1 simple
interprocess messaging system


There is more extra packages on i386:


libdbus-1-3 libexpat1 libice6 libsm6 libx11-6 libx11-data libxau6 libxdmcp6
x11-common


then on amd64


libdbus-1-3 libexpat1 libx11-6 libx11-data libxau6 libxdmcp6 x11-common


So, why is this happening and how to resolve it?


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Re: dpkg-buildpackage problem.

[Marko Randjelovic]

Semih Gokalp wrote:
> 
> Hi all debian users.I hope,everything is ok for you.
> I have Debian 4.0 Etch stable and running some service on it.I want to
> download source package and build deb package.
> 
> I have been typing,
> 
> # cd /usr/src
> # apt-get source xyz
> 
> and download "xyz_1.0.orig.tar.gz" , "xyz._1.0.diff.gz" and
> "xyz_1.0.dsc" and automaticly extract "xyz.orig.tar.gz" to "xyz-1.0"
> folder and I have been applying some patch and other things to xyz-1.0 and
> 
> # dpkg-buildpackage
> 
> and deb package is builded successfully :) I dont have any problem.
> 
> But i want to apply patch and create deb package for "xyz-1.2" so I
> searched and found "xyz_1.2.orig.tar.gz" , "xyz_1.2.diff.gz" and
> "xyz_1.2.dsc",
> from source web page.
> I have put them to /usr/src directory and extract "xyz_1.2.orig.tar.gz"
> to "xyz-1.2" folder.Again,i applied some patch and entered
> 
> # dpkg-buildpackage
> 
> but error was printed like this:
> 
> dpkg-parsechangelog: error: cannot open debian/changelog to find format:
> No such file or directory
> dpkg-buildpackage: unable to determine source package is
> 

Did you apply xyz_1.2.diff.gz? You have to apply debian patch, so debian
subdirecory is created for building with dpkg-buildpackage. You should have
extracted package with 'dpkg-source -x xyz_1.2.dsc' and patch would have been
applied automaticaly. Then you apply your modifications and document that in the
changelog. And then build the package.

> Do i make wrong something ? or I have to type other command before
> dpkg-buildpackege,while create deb file without apt-get source command ?
> 
> After type apt-get source xyz for xyz_1.0,I saw this information,
> 
> dpkg-source: extracting xyz in xyz-1.0  *1
> dpkg-source: unpacking xyz_1.0.orig.tar.gz  *2
> dpkg-source: applying ./xyz_1.0.diff.gz *3
> 
> I understand *1 and *2 but I can not understand *3 ? Should I do *3
> manually,when i create deb file for xyz_1.2 ? and If it is true,what
> should i do for *3 step ?
> 
> Do i ignore some step while create deb file without apt-get source
> command ?

Why would you apply any patch _after_ you create packages? And patch for 1.0
would not affect 1.2 version (it is intended for 1.0).

I recommend you first read New Maintainers Guide, then if have further problems,
explain more precisely what are you trying to do.

> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> Iyi calismalar.Basarilar...
> Semih Gokalp
> Istanbul/Turkiye


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Re: Question on flash player

[Marko Randjelovic]

Jonathan Jacobs wrote:
> I still consider myself a newbe.  I have looked in Synaptic package
> manager and I have orange liborange0 when I do a search for flash
> player.  I see swf-player, but that says that is a plugin for mozilla
> and I am using Epiphany as my web-browser.  I have downloaded
> flashplayer10_install_linux_051508.i386.rpm but how do I install
> thatwhat program?
> 
> http://www.cbsnews.com/ and in the upper right hand corner you see
> VIDEOS (click on that tab) and then click on a video.  I get, you need
> flash player 9 installed or later
> 

Download tgz from Adobe's site and extract it with

tar zxf flash.tgz

Then copy libflashplayer.so to your browser plugin directory. I don't know for
Epiphany, for Iceweasel is /usr/lib/iceweasel.

> And on another install question, I have downloaded
> adobeair_linux_a1_033108.bin because there are some add ons for this
> that I want to use.  How do I install a bin file?
> 

Make it executable and run it

chmod +x adobeair_linux_a1_033108.bin
./adobeair_linux_a1_033108.bin



> TIA
> 
> PS.  I installed deb on my mothers pc and other then the fact that she
> likes to double click on everything (I find multiple copies on her
> desktop), she loves it.  She says that she is still getting used to
> where everything is located at.
> -- 
> Jonathan Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> 


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Problem with changing symbolic link to shared library

[Marko Randjelovic]

Yesterday, I have changed some symbolic links in /usr/lib32 to point to
older version libraries. For example, there was

libxml2.so.2 -> libxml2.so.2.6.30

I have changed it to libxml2.so.2.6.27 and my printer stared to work.
But after I run 'apt-get upgrade', it returns to its original state. How
to prevent this? I think something is choosing the highest version.


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Re: ati propriety drivers + etch = floating point exception in various programs

[Marko Randjelovic]

Sven Arvidsson wrote:

On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 21:46 +0200, Joe Hart wrote:
  

Excuse me, he said Etch, not Sid and installing something from
experimental in Etch is almost sure to cause problems.



From his post, 
"Today I installed sid to check whether that bug was solved but

no luck."

At the moment, experimental is more of a waiting ground for packages not
intended for etch, and anyway, installing a few carefully selected
packages from experimental is not dangerous. 


I did recommend Xorg 7.2 (the one in experimental) because the radeon
has seen quite a lot of development, especially for r300 (used for the
rv350 cards also I think) and might have fixed whatever problems he had.

  


http://packages.debian.org/testing/x11/xserver-xorg-video-ati
http://x.europnews.de/pub/X11R7.2/src/driver/

As You can see from these links, Etch ati driver is at 7.2. 3D 
accelleration works, but not sure about TV out, try googling a little.



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Re: Reporting a bug (was: fglrx driver problems)

[Marko Randjelovic]

On my surprise, today I checked again and saw direct rendering is 
enabled. It looks like the problem was reaired in some recent kernel 
upgrade, but I didn't notice it yesterday, because two days ago I 
uninstalled libgl1-mesa-dri, because it was listed by deborphan.



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Where is "incoming" distribution?

[Marko Randjelovic]

I want to file a bug report on xmms, but reportbug says there is some 
newer version in "incoming". I looked at 
"http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/x/xmms/";, but there is no 
such file in it. Where are those "incoming" packages?



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Re: Where is "incoming" distribution?

[Marko Randjelovic]

Marko Randjelovic wrote:
I want to file a bug report on xmms, but reportbug says there is some 
newer version in "incoming". I looked at 
"http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/x/xmms/";, but there is no 
such file in it. Where are those "incoming" packages?





I found it :). It's "http://incoming.debian.org/";.


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Re: A couple questions about gnome.

[Marko Randjelovic]

Alan Ianson wrote:
> When I select an odt (openoffice) file from gnome's Places -> Recent
> Documents menu an error window opens and says "could not find a sutable
> application". How can I configure gnome to use openoffice for .odt and
> other
> openoffice file formats?

You didn't write which distribution do You use. I use Etch and it opens
in OO with no problems. Anyway, You should can select OpenOffice if you
open File Browser, find Your file, right click, then, Open With. If OO
is not on the list, click Add.


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Re: GPG and Signing

[Marko Randjelovic]

>> P.S. I just setup Claws-Mail to use signing a few days ago. This thread
>> looks like a good opportunity to start using it here.
> 
> Yep, and I noticed that that message was the first one you signed.  Now
> your public key is in my keyring :).
> 
> Now you can send me encrypted mail (if you have my public key)!
> Whoopie!  Like you really need to.
> 
> 
> Joe

How did you import th key? I use thunderbird and I clicked on a pencil
icon, then I chose I want to import public key, accepted default value
for keyserver, and than it shows some progress indicator that doesn't
move from zero.


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Re: Reporting a bug (was: fglrx driver problems)

[Marko Randjelovic]

Marko Randjelovic wrote:
> On my surprise, today I checked again and saw direct rendering is
> enabled. It looks like the problem was reaired in some recent kernel
> upgrade, but I didn't notice it yesterday, because two days ago I
> uninstalled libgl1-mesa-dri, because it was listed by deborphan.
> 
> 

The problem was in BIOS settings of the motherboard. AGP aperture size
was at default value of 32MB, which was to small for kernel.
Furthermore, that option was hidden, so you have to press CTLR+F1 to
unhide it. I have set it to 256MB, but later I didn't remmember it.


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Re: Does Debian 4.0 support WindowsXP partition

[Marko Randjelovic]

Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:

> 
> Should be fine. Debian 4.0 uses GRUB by default and should detect 
> Windows XP as part of the installation. I've had this running for months 
> while Etch was testing.
> 
> Andy

However, write support is disabled by default, and it is dangerous to
use it, since it can cause data corruption. There is ntfs-3g driver that
provides stable read/write (http://www.ntfs-3g.org/), but is not
included in Etch.


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Re: debian не установит ь на VIA PT880RO

[Marko Randjelovic]

Эдуард wrote:
> Привет, debian-user !
> 
> Скачал мини-браз для установки debian-31r5-i386-netinst.iso , но
> при установке он не видит моего SATA HDD Samsung 200Gb и не
> размечает диск. Материнская плата Asrock 775Dual-VSTA (на VIA
> VT880Pro). Пробовал параметр linux26 - то-же самое. Вот Ubuntu
> 6.10 ставится , но зависает при входе в разных местах. Когда был
> винчестер IDE , то Ubuntu 6.06 ставился без проблем, а вот SATA не
> нравится ни Debian, ни Ubuntu (хотя Ubuntu создан на Debian
> ведь...)
> 
>   МОжет есть ещё какие параметры или ссылка на мини-образ с более
>   новым ядром, где есть поддержка PT880PRO ?
>   

Ово је англиска меилинг листа. Иди на
http://lists.debian.org/debian-russian/


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Re: linux/tomcat

[Marko Randjelovic]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
> I have a Java servlet running with Tomcat 5.5 under Linux Debian.
> I need to indicate tomcat where are located the other processes called
> by the Java servlet. For that, I must specify environment variables
> for the tomcat user (and not for root or any other user) but I don't
> know in which configuration file I need to do that. Do you have any
> idea ?
> Many thanks,
> M
> 
> 

If you need to use some jar files for your servlet, you can copy them to
"/usr/share/tomcat5.5/common/lib" or
"/var/lib/tomcat5.5/webapps/yourWebApp/WEB-INF/lib". Also, You can set
some tomcat 5.5 options in file "/etc/default/tomcat5.5".


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Re: to allow root logins or not?

[Marko Randjelovic]

Default User wrote:
> Gee, I hate to ask another question, but - 
> 
> During an Etch install, it asks if I want to allow root logins.  If not,
> no root account is set up (I guess as a security measure), and all admin
> access is done by sudo.  Now I normally do almost all admin work as
> sudo, but is there a downside to not having an actual root account.
> That is, might there be instances when something really should (or must)
> be done in a real root account (not sudo), and with no root account, the
> user is "hung up"? 
> 

You probably won't need it. In my experience, only wodim (cdrecord)
refused to work, but I can run it as normal user. If you come to need
it, you can always enable it by "sudo passwd"


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Re: SONY DVD RW AW-G170A

[Marko Randjelovic]

Neil Sumner wrote:
> 
> the solution is to get a new mobo?
> 

Of course not, first try with another drive. And just felt on my mind,
maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to put newer firmware on that drive.
Look at Sony's site for the latest firmware.


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Re: Troubles with my modem

[Marko Randjelovic]

Carlos Manuel GV wrote:
> My problem:
> 
> I have a M70 Toshiba Satellite and Debian 4.0 installed.
> I already have sl-modem-daemon packet and I´ve configured several times
> /etc/wvdial.conf and checked /etc/ppp/ppers/wvdial, pap-secrets and
> chap-secrets, and from root I gave privileges to users have access to them.
> I have gnome-ppp too to access ppp from gnome.
> 
> By wvdial through root, I almost get modem connected but I always get an
> error in idle time that doesn´t let me contiune.
> 
> With gnome-ppp have the next error-message:
> <***>
> 
> --> Ignoring malformed input line: ";Do NOT edit this file by hand!"
> --> WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.56
> --> Cannot get information for serial port.
> --> Initializing modem.
> --> Sending: ATZ
> ATZ
> OK
> --> Sending: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0
> ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0
> OK
> --> Modem initialized.
> --> Sending: ATM1L3DT060110
> --> Waiting for carrier.
> ATM1L3DT060110
> CONNECT 52000
> --> Carrier detected.  Starting PPP immediately.
> --> Starting pppd at Sat Apr 28 12:48:03 2007
> --> Pid of pppd: 4033
> --> Disconnecting at Sat Apr 28 12:48:04 2007
> --> The PPP daemon has died: pppd options error (exit code = 2)
> --> man pppd explains pppd error codes in more detail.
> --> I guess that's it for now, exiting
> --> The PPP daemon has died. (exit code = 2)
> 
> 
> 
> I´ll really appreciate if you can guide me, last time with Debian in my
> PC I got my modem ready, but now I can´t.
> 
> Thanks a lot,
> 
> B.
> 
> 

Did you look at 'man pppd'? Here is what is says for your error code:

2  An error was detected in processing the options given,  such  as
  two mutually exclusive options being used.


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Re: Etch 32-bit system w/ AMD64 proc.

[Marko Randjelovic]

Bill Thompson wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:30:03 -0400
> Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> For what do you need the 32-bit chroot?
> 
> Flash, Java, Mplayer w/ win32 codecs, audio drivers, etc.
> 

And amd64 consumes much more memory. However, Opera 9.10 works fine for
me with flash, just download static version and use install with "dpkg
--force-architecture".

Greater problem is Adobe Reader. I make it work by installing Ubuntu
ia32-libs-gtk. Still, there is some bug so I can't use "reverse pages".


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