Re: need good file explorer

[Linas Žvirblis]

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Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:

> IMHO, krusader is file manager done right! It is just awesome! Before that I
> have tried a lot of file managers such as konqueror, mc, xfe etc., But once
> I found krusader I stopped searching. I have never been a big fan of gnome,
> so dont know if something in GNOME beats krusader.

There is GNOME Commander (package "gnome-commander").

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Re: RTF - proprietary or open?

[Linas Žvirblis]

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Celejar wrote:

> Which brings us back to my original point; why not RTF? It's apparently
> a fairly open format, and apparently virtually all word processors can
> read and write it.

I do not know if it is the format itself, or the limitation of the
applications I use, but RTF documents loose a lot of formatting, and
cannot be expected to look the same even when opened in the same word
processor. This is much worse than opening DOC in OpenOffice.org, or
opening DOC created in OpenOffice.org in Word.

It is great for sharing content with basic formatting, but not for
actual documents. Well, that is my experience at least.

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Re: em64t

[Linas Žvirblis]

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> I'm trying to get the best of my machine based on intel core2 (6550), which is
> compliant with em64t debian arch (at least I thought...) but there is only a
> amd64 install available, which doesn't want to run on Intel machine...

AMD64 == EM64T == x86-64 == x64

All the different names are because companies tried to look cool by
naming the same stuff differently. AMD64 is an official name, because
AMD did it first, EM64T is Intels' name for the same thing, x86-64
basically sums up both, and x64 is used by Microsoft.

Intel Core 2 is an AMD64 processor.

IA64 is an entirely different beast - basically Itanium processor only.

Ron Johnson wrote:

> You're mixing arches.  em64t *is* the -amd64 architecture, which,
> obviously, isn't i386 (-686).

You can install i386 operating system on AMD64 hardware, because AMD64
is an extended i386. The system will run just fine, but will not be able
to use additional features of AMD64 architecture.

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Re: linux arch with usb?

[Linas Žvirblis]

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Joey Hess wrote:

> I'd use any. That's consistent with eg, usbutils.

That is because arch name does not tell you anything about hardware it
can include. For example old i386 machines without USB, new ones that
have USB support disabled in BIOS, etc. etc.

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Re: Removing all packages from a given repository

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John Halton wrote:

> I'm trying to remove all packages installed from the E17 repo at
> edevelop.org. Is there a way (e.g. within aptitude) to list packages
> according to the repo/domain from which they were downloaded, and then
> remove them?

You cannot list them by repository, but there is this trick: Delete any
references to "edevelop.org" from "/etc/apt/sources.list", run update in
aptitude, and packages installed from said repository should now be
listed under "Obsolete or Locally Created Packages".

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Re: Does Etch support Intel Woodcrest Xeon processors?

[Linas Žvirblis]

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Kevin Mark wrote:

> Debian has 1,200 Developers and millions of users: we are more than
> enough of a techincal resource. Just get a copy of a ubuntu or knoppix live
> cd and let them test it. 

It is Debian that has 1200 developers, not Ubuntu or Knoppix. Next best
thing, but not quite the same. If you are interested in Debian live CD,
please look at [0].

[0] http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/

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Re: GUI and USB question

[Linas Žvirblis]

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Keith Willis wrote:

> I've completed my install of Debian v3.1r4 "sarge", from the
> downloaded DVD images.  I reboot, and I'm at the familiar CLI login
> prompt.

First of all, I should note that "Sarge" is a bit dated. The next
release codenamed "Etch" is going to be released real soon, and you can
already use a beta version. So if you do not mind using something not
100% stable, and have not yet done much with your install, I suggest you
download "Etch" [0] and do a clean reinstall. It contains numerous
improvements and should get you going real fast.

[0] http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

> 1st question is, how do I start the GUI (KDE, Gnome, whatever) that I
> assume is bundled with the distro?

My memories of how things worked in "Sarge" are a bit hazy, but...

If you just did a base install then CLI is all you get. To get GNOME,
run this as root:

 "apt-get install aptitude" (installs a neat CLI package manager)
 "aptitude install gnome gdm xserver-xfree86"

> 2nd question, completely unrelated, is about when I plug in my USB
> memory stick.  The OS spots it and seems to mount it, but I can't find
> the mount point.  Where do I cd to in order to find my files that are
> on the stick?

When you plug in the USB memory stick, it should appear as SCSI disc in
"/dev" (such as "/dev/sda1" or similar). You can then mount it wherever
you feel like.

 "mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/whateverdir"

You will not need to be bothered about all of this once you get your
desktop environment running.

> Oh, and one last one; I don't suppose anyone has the faintest idea how
> to make the OS talk to a Hawking Technologies HWU8DD USB WiFi dish? If
> not, I'll just get a cheapie WRT54GL and use that as a WiFi client,
> but I guess it's worth asking first...

Cannot help you on this one, sorry.

I still strongly suggest you install "Etch". You will _not_ need to
reinstall it once the final is released - Debian has the best package
management/upgrade system out there.

You also do not need all the CDs/DVDs, Debian can install missing
packages directly from the net.

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Re: Running QEMU from a cron job

[Linas Žvirblis]

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Nate Bargmann wrote:

> I am wanting to restart a QEMU virtual machine from a cron entry, let
> the VM do something, and then after a period of time freeze the VM
> until the next day.  After reading the docs and browsing the Web for a
> few days, I'm not so sure this is possible.

Well, I guess it is possible, but it may require some (or maybe a lot
of) programming skills. You could write an application that would
control QEMU via its monitor interface. It would then be possible to
suspend, pause, and do all sort of cool things with the VM.

A much simpler solution would be to have QEMU started by cron, and set
up the guest OS to shut down after doing something. Or you could run
QEMU in snapshot mode and simply kill it, when not needed. Or... the
possibilities are endless. What exactly do you want to achieve?

And do not forget that QEMU is mostly a GUI application, so you will
probably need to run xorg.

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Re: Running QEMU from a cron job

[Linas Žvirblis]

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Nate Bargmann wrote:

>> And do not forget that QEMU is mostly a GUI application, so you will
>> probably need to run xorg.
> 
> Thanks for pointing that out.  That may be another area to work around
> as well.

As Joshua Kugler already stated, you can run QEMU headless; and there is
more than one way to do it. Apart from one already mentioned, you could
try starting QEMU in non-graphics mode, as if it had no VGA card. Same
way one would run a headless server.

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Re: Recovering OOo rapid starter & update-notifier on Gnome panel

[Linas Žvirblis]

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andy wrote:

> Thanks Sven. This a.m. "update-notifier" reappeared as it should in the
> notification area. Now all the notification area is missing is the OOo
> quickstart app. I've dug around in various menus but can't see that
> particular option.

You did not mention (or I missed it) if you run Sarge and Etch. If I
remember correctly, in Sarge OOo quickstarter was a separate
application, and it did not work all that well.

In Etch, however, OOo has a quickstarter built in, and it works so much
better. Enabling it is as simple as checking Memory -> Enable systray
quickstarter checkbox from withing OOo options.

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Re: Alsa breaks after kernel upgrade

[Linas Žvirblis]

> alsaconf works great.  finds the device, says to have fun.
> 
> No sound.

Did you unmute devices in "alsamixer"?


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Re: gimp and printing

[Linas Žvirblis]

> Although I have already set up my cups system and have a default printer, it 
> has nothing to do with gimp (but please correct me if I am wrong). I can not 
> use the printer configured with cups in gimp. I don't get the connection 
> between the "system printer" (as you mentioned) and gimp.
> In gimp I must add a printer in the print plugin's dialog and specify the 
> printer's vendor and model. There are many HP printers, but not the one have 
> (710c). The question is still open.

I assume you have correctly set up your printer and verified it really
works. If so...

1. in GIMP go to File -> Print -> Setup Printer,
2. in "Printer Make" select "HP",
3. in "Printer Model" select something that is close enough to yours,
   "HP DeskJet 690 series" would be the one I would try first, but
   feel free to experiment with other options,
4. select "Standard Command" and select your previously configured
   printer in "Printer Queue", do not select "(Default Printer)",

You should be done. Try to print something.

If it does not work, make sure that your have really setup CUPS
correctly. Check if "hp-toolbox" is not complaining about anything. Also
take a look at output of "hp-info". "hp-setup" and "hp-makeuri" may also
prove useful.


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Re: gimp and printing

[Linas Žvirblis]

> I don't have those binaries, which package they're in? I'm using etch.

They are in "hplip" package. You should also install "hplip-ppds" (or
"hpijs-ppds", whichever is available), "hpijs" and "printconf" to have a
full suite at hand.


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Re: gimp and printing

[Linas Žvirblis]

> I have hplip-ppds but not the hplip package installed. But, really, is the 
> missing of this package the reason that I have only the "Default Printer" 
> under the "Printer Queue" in gimp's print plugin?

There may be other reasons, but you should install "hplip" anyway, as it
contains CUPS backend for HP printers, a driver as you may call it. It
also contains various nice to have tools for ink level monitoring, color
calibration, etc.


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Re: fstab re-writing

[Linas Žvirblis]

Ron Johnson wrote:

> The standard answer is "udev and a custom rule".  But I also wonder
> what is rewriting /etc/fstab.

Earlier versions of HAL could be configured to do that, but this feature
was disabled in Unstable some time ago. If I remember correctly, to
disable it, you have to make HAL drop privileges by setting an option in
"/etc/default/hal".


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Re: Why is KlamAV not included in Debian?

[Linas Žvirblis]

Clive Menzies wrote:

> Did you mean:
> 
> ~$ dpkg -l | grep clamav

No, KlamAV is a GUI front-end to clamav. Both KlamAV and Dazuko are
being worked on, so I guess this is just a matter of time.


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Re: Which is the most stable desktop?

[Linas Žvirblis]

> KDE, icewm are reasonably stable. Have not tried others so cannot comment on
> them. In general, if you are using stable releases, all the destop
> environments or window managers should be stable enough.

Large desktop environments (KDE, GNOME etc.) are always more likely to
fail than small ones (Fluxbox, FVWM etc.), but that is simply because
they contain more applications that _can_ contain bugs. The possibility
is rather theoretical, however.

You should really stop worrying about how stable they are, and just
choose your favorite one. Personally I always recommend GNOME to people
that do not know what to choose.


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Re: rar archiver

[Linas Žvirblis]

Henrique G. Abreu wrote:

> if you mean, the command line
> yes, there is no X interface.

That is not true. "file-roller" and "xarchiver" should do just that.


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Re: ALSA problems after Sid upgrade

[Linas Žvirblis]

Benjamí Villoslada wrote:

> Any workaround?  Thanks :)

Downgrade "libasound2" package to 1.0.11-4. Something went terribly
wrong in 1.0.11-5.


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Re: ALSA problems after Sid upgrade

[Linas Žvirblis]

Benjamí Villoslada wrote:

> How I can downgrade?  I'm new in Debian and is my first downgrade :P  I don't 
> locate the 1.0.11-4 version of libsound2.

If you have a not very up-to-date mirror (hey, that turns out to be a
feature) listed in "/etc/apt/sources.list", 1.0.11-4 should still show
up in aptitude. You then could select 1.0.11-4 in "Versions" section of
a package description.

If you do not use aptitude (I highly recommend it), you can do it manually:

1. Download libasound2_1.0.11-4_ARCH_NAME-HERE.deb from [1];
2. Remove the package by running...
"dpkg -r --force-all libasound2"
   ...as root;
3. Install previously downloaded deb by running...
"dpkg -i DEB_NAME_NAME"
   ...as root.

[1] http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/alsa-lib/

P.S. There are other ways to do the trick, but these are my favorite.


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Re: I'm looking for a specific firewall...

[Linas Žvirblis]

Dirk wrote:

> 1) It must be written in C
> 2) It must be able to block connections from a specific IP

iptables?


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Re: ALSA + sid dist-upgrade may 30 2006

[Linas Žvirblis]

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

> Then I replaced libasound2 1.0.11-6 with -3 because -4 is nowhere to be
> found.

1.0.11-7 should also be safe.

> I'll report when it fails again at reboot eventually.

Let us hope not.


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Re: fsck on ext3, lost files

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Gary Parker wrote:

> Lost+found contains over 300 entries numbered #1504387 through #4635638. About
> 50 of these are directories.   One of these directories contains most of my
> user's home directory, though many of the subdirectories that I am interested 
> in
> appear empty.  In particular I am looking for jpeg images.

[...]

> I've read, "Your only hope is to "grep" for parts of your files that have been
> deleted and hope for the best."  Is this still true?

Something like this happened to me once (but I do not remember why).
Lost+found contained various entries that did not make any sense at
first, but they actually appeared to be files I was looking for, only
with weird names, and _scattered_ all over the place.

What I mean, is that if files were in a certain directory, they can no
longer be in that one directory. You will probably need to check all of
them to find what you are looking for.

A valuable tool in this case is "file". It can identify loads of
different file formats, and can be very effective in conjunction with
some shell scripting. There is also tool called "testdisk". I have never
used it, but it does seem to have some very useful features.

It is highly unlikely that you will be able to recover a lot of useful
data by examining hard drive physically, but if that is important for
you, here are some tips:

* Only operate the disk in read-only mode.
* First of all try to locate you data in _files_ in lost+found. Most of
  it should be should still be there. It is just a matter of copying the
  files and renaming them properly.
* After you have salvaged your files, then you may want to do physical
  analysis of the disk using "testdisk" or similar tools, if there are
  still thing missing.

Of course, this is based on the assumption that you do have another disk
or a separate bootable partition available. Otherwise you will have to
move files around in the same partition and this will overwrite parts of
files that might have survived somewhere on disk.

In my case, I was able to locate all my important data in lost+found.
Chances are that you will also.

Good luck.


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Re: fsck on ext3, lost files

[Linas Žvirblis]

Gary Parker wrote:

> I've searched every file in lost+found with a few different tools: gqview,
> nautilus, lde, find with file.  Although I found some of my files in various
> directories in lost+found, there are a couple of directories whose files are
> nowhere to be found there.

[...]

> Is it possible in an ext3 file system to find files outside of lost+found?

It depends. When a file is deleted (or lost), the data remains on disk.
The difference is that the kernel does no longer know that the data is
there, and treats it as free space, so it can be overwritten at any
given time. Chances of that happening increase as you do something with
the disk. Even mounting it in read-write mode may be enough to lose this
data, as there are processes invisible to user that update the file
system from time to time.

You did mount it read-only as in...

   mount -o ro /dev/disk /mnt/location

...did not you?

> I am guessing that it is not possible since lde shows these directories as 
> empty
> then I am out of luck, e.g.,

[...]

> I can retrieve the .jedrc file but there is nothing to be found of the 
> pictures
> directory in lost+found.

The "testdisk" package, I have already mentioned contains a tool called
"PhotoRec" [1] that might just do the trick. There is also "foremost"
package that may be useful.

[1] http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec


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Re: fsck on ext3, lost files

[Linas Žvirblis]

Gary Parker wrote:

> Some of the jpg files are corrupted.  Interestingly gimp displays a preview of
> the images in the open dialog box, but won't open them.  Any ides on how to
> salvage corrupt jpg images?

Thumbnail can be saved inside JPEG file as Exif data, so GIMP is
probably displaying it, not the actual image. But my knowledge on this
is rather limited, so I make no claims.

> I have posted a sample image and screenshots of the gimp screens at:

I looked at the file and it seems to be damaged pretty badly. It
contains large chunks of data that contain nothing but zeros and chunks
that seem to be leftovers of other files.

I am not aware of any way to recover such files, but I am not saying
there is none. People that deal with digital photography should know better.


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Re: Hints on module handling.

[Linas Žvirblis]

Dan Serban wrote:

> Now that 2.6 is running rampant and has been for some good time...  I'm
> curious how the current correct way to set module parameters is in a
> udev environment.

[...]

> The list goes on and on, and I'm confused.  Someone, please point me to
> some sane debian documentation :).

Not sure what exactly are you asking for, but to set module options
simply create a file in "/etc/modprobe.d" (any name) and write your
options there. For example, I have "/etc/modprobe.d/local" which
contains "options snd-via82xx dxs_support=5".


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Re: Hints on module handling.

[Linas Žvirblis]

Dan Serban wrote:

> Sorry for the confusing post, I was asking for a specific method on how
> to supply options for modules.  So thanks, though I was more talking
> about the confusion I was facing since I used to just load modules in
> /etc/modules and add lines such as bttv tuner=2 etc.

Adding lines to "/etc/modules" would also work, but there are certain
drawbacks:

 * Modules are forcibly loaded at boot time;
 * Options are not preserved if you reload the module.

As for "modutils" and "modules.conf", they are not used on 2.6 systems.
You can safely remove "modutils" package, but you should not remove
files or directories. They are still sometimes needed for backwards
compatibility.

> Anyway you hit the nail right on the hammer, thanks =D

You are welcome.


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Re: VMware free server beta

[Linas Žvirblis]

David Baron wrote:

>> "elevator=cfq"
>>
>> These things are probably case-sensitive. :-$
> 
> What is this?

This sets a default I/O scheduler (a driver that organizes reads and
writes to a disk in a certain way) to CFQ. It should improve
interactivity, but can sometimes degrade performance. I did not read the
thread, so do not know how is this related.


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Re: smart package manager

[Linas Žvirblis]

>> There is talk about the smart package manager.  It claims it will handle
>> package managing better than APT.  Is this true or propaganda?  If it is
>> true, will there be a future switch from APT to this SMART?  Could it be a
>> potential etch +1 goal?  Just wondering.
> 
> Are you referring to Aptitude ? It's available either in a curses
> display (I think it's curses) or from the command line.

He is probably referring to "smartpm" package:

  The Smart Package Manager project has the ambitious
  objective of creating smart and portable algorithms for
  solving adequately the problem of managing software
  upgrading and installation. This tool works in all major
  distributions (APT, APT-RPM, YUM, URPMI, etc).

  This project is in beta testing. Please, understand that
  bugs are expected to be found at that stage, and there
  are features that still must be implemented in the
  forthcoming future.

It is an interesting project, but I doubt that APT will go away anytime
soon. You do not just go and replace essential parts of the operating
system with some half tested beta software. Maybe one day, but probably
not in Etch+1.


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Re: compiling a 2.6.15 kernel

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Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:

> I am compiling a2.6.15 kernel to run with sarge. I am a bit confused
> witht he options in "Cryptographic options -> Cryptographic API ", are
> those algorithms really necessary to run a desktop machine? and "Library
> routines", do I need any CRC* function?. There isn't any suggestion in
> the on-line help...

Unless some driver automatically selects any of them, you most likely do
not need them. I would say they are safe to disable.


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Re: installing new kernel

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Joris Huizer wrote:

> I don't know what needs to change when using GRUB.

Usually nothing. GRUB is automatically updated via script by default.

Sam, you should also install "udev" package along with 2.6 kernel. Also
choose a kernel optimized for your system - for example
"kernel-image-k7" (or "linux-image-k7", whichever name is used on sarge)
if your processor is AMD K7.


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Re: windows in xen on intel core-duo?

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> qemu ? yes, but not raw, you need a disc-image

Both QEMU and VMware emulate an entire computer which has its own
hardware. This means that once you boot Windows from within QEMU (it can
boot from real disks), it will need to reconfigure itself to run on
emulated hardware. And, as we all know, Windows is not really good at that.

Your best bet would be to create a disk image and install Windows there.
Sure, it will not be lightning fast, but QEMU can be quite fast if you
use the accelerator module (you will have to download and compile it
yourself).

If you are not familiar with QEMU command line options, there at least
three GUI front-ends that you might want to give a try (none of them are
in Debian):

for KDE (never tried it):
 http://kqemu.sourceforge.net/
 http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/kqemu/kqemu-0.3Alpha.tgz?download

for Java (needs Sun Java):
 http://exprofesso.com/jqemu/
 http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/jqemu/jqemu-1.1.0.zip?download

for GTK (yes, that is my name on it):
 https://gna.org/projects/qemulaunch
 http://svn.gna.org/daily/qemulaunch-snapshot.tar.gz

> vmware ? probably..

It may run a little faster than QEMU, but I simply cannot recommend it,
because it is, you know, evil...

> xen ? no, there were license-issues with M$-Windows & xen

Form Xen FAQ:

 1.4. Does Xen support Microsoft Windows?

  The paravirtualized approach we use to get such high performance has
  not been usable directly for Windows to date. However Xen 3.0 added
  Intel VT-x support to enable the running of unmodified guest operating
  systems, including Windows XP & 2003 Server, using hardware
  virtualization technology. We are working on implementing support for
  the equivalent AMD Pacifica technology.

So it seems it is somewhat possible if you have the right hardware. Not
that I know how to do it...


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Re: deleting rivafb

[Linas Žvirblis]

> When I compile the nvidia kernel modules, it tells me that
> they are incompatible with the rivafb functionality, and I have to 
> disable this in the kernel (which is a stock Debian kernel) before I can 
> use them.

If it is built as a module (and I guess it is), that is really easy.

> How do I go about this?  Presumably some entry in some configuration 
> file?

Yes, see "/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist". Just add rivafb module to the
list, and reboot. It should not be used anymore.


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Re: What does it mean 'LANG=C'

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Surachai Locharoen wrote:

> I just want to know 'LANG=C' what does it mean? Normally, I see LANG is
> set to laguage which exist in the real world such as en, th, fr.

It means the default language - the one the application is actually
written in. In practice this is usually English, but one could write an
application in French (for example), and then translate it to English.
In that case setting 'LANG=C' would indicate that an application should
display messages in French.


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Re: What does it mean 'LANG=C'

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Ron Johnson wrote:

> I thought C meant "plain *old* ASCII encoding, like what was used on
> the PDP computers that C was written on".

Well, yes, it is US English ASCII. But I have seen it being abused.


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Re: Gimp gap

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Rocky Ou wrote:

> I installed gimp on my Debian Stable system and aptituted gap plugin as
> well. This is my first time to use Gimp. I really do not know how to access
> gap interface. I tried gimp website and googled for the solution but maybe
> it is too easy no help was found.

It adds a "Video" section to a menu in the image window. You have to
create a new image to see it.


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Re: Nvidia (their's) driver on multiple kernels.

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David Baron wrote:

> First, it now incorrectly removes the driver from the 2.6.16 modules and then 
> nicely installs the driver onto the 2.6.17 modules. If I want to keep more 
> than one kernel around, the installer.run does not cooperate :-)

First of all, I highly recommend using the Debian packages and not the
installer you got from NVIDIA. It can be confusing at first (a couple of
methods available depending on how you deal with kernels), but it will
save a lot of trouble during upgrades, and is multiple kernel friendly.

If you really want to use the installer, there is a way to use multiple
kernels. If I remember correctly, it has an option for that in advanced
options (--advanced-options).

> They surely would want to change this! No way to contact them?

There is also a forum [1] where you can contact NVIDIA developers, but,
as I said, it is already possible.

[1] http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?forumid=14


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Re: Nvidia (their's) driver on multiple kernels.

[Linas Žvirblis]

David Baron wrote:

> Are they "better" or equivalent?  Probably updated with Xorg changes, etc. 
> which is better. However, the manufacturer must also know what they are 
> doing?

Files inside are exactly the same, except maybe cases where certain
modifications are needed to make them work in Debian.

The driver needs to overwrite a couple of files that belong to xorg, so
if you use the installer, the files will be overwritten without Debian
package management system knowing that. This will lead to them being
overwritten again by xorg on next upgrade, and you will have to
reinstall NVIDIA drivers.

The packages make the package management system remember they were
overwritten and preserves them on upgrades. They will also be updated
once NVIDIA releases a patch, which you would have to apply manually
otherwise.

You will get the same either way. Proprietary drivers are still
proprietary drivers no matter how you install them.

> Didn't know there were any options. Next new kernel, I'll try it (if I do not 
> go over to the Debian driver).

If you decide to go with debs, do not forget to uninstall the driver
before installing packages.

One thing to consider is that if you do not run Debian Unstable, you
will not get the latest drivers. On the other hand, all NVIDIA drivers
are buggy in one way or another, so a new driver is not necessarily better.

> I would assume that the default behavior would be to leave the pre-existing 
> kernel's module in place. This is what most folks trying a newer kernel would 
> want.

You are free to bug NVIDIA as much as you want, but do not expect things
to change anytime soon. As long as the driver is proprietary, there is
nothing we can do to make things work the way they should.


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Re: Is the Etch NVIDIA driver wrong?

[Linas Žvirblis]

S Scharf wrote:

> I had always installed the NVIDIA driver by downloading from NVIDIA.
> 
> Thinking it would be easier to maintain to use the .deb package I
> found the Testing package requires the 2.6.16 kernel, but the current
> testing kernel is 2.6.15?
> 
> Am I missing something?

There does not seem to be NVIDIA driver package in Testing. Both NVIDIA
drivers and appropriate kernels are found in Unstable.

Maybe you are using a mixed system or your package list is not up-to-date?


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Re: Nvidia (their's) driver on multiple kernels.

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David Baron wrote:

> OK. Now the question. Which packages are needed for a GEforce 440 card?

Probably the normal (the non-legacy) driver packages.

> ( compile my own kernels so the 2.6 kernel meta-stuff is probably not 
> appropriate since I always have full source. Still leaves a lot of different 
> packages.)

Please read . Especially
the "Build manually, with a custom kernel" section.


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Re: Is the Etch NVIDIA driver wrong?

[Linas Žvirblis]

I see.

The legacy drivers actually are in Testing. These are meant for older
(legacy) cards, and may not work with new ones. This is a sort of
transitional driver, as a new version (already released, but not yet in
Debian) does not work with anything but legacy cards by design.

The pre-built modules of normal driver are also in Testing, as they are
built from different source. They are, however, useless without user
space components, such as "nvidia-glx".

You may want to try getting the driver and the kernel from Unstable.
Although you should check for release critical bugs first.


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Re: Is Xen for Stable/Unstable distro a good idea?

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David Baron wrote:

> Qemu is a fairly simple virtualizer. Since a virtual machine sport differing 
> "hardware" (emulated) than the real one, running off a real filesystem is 
> kind of dangerous. Feeding qemu the real thing is rejected. It will play off 
> diskettes and live CDs.

QEMU can run of real file systems just fine - just point it to a device
file instead of disk image. Of course, you should not expect it to run
an OS that was not installed trough QEMU itself.

By the way, QEMU is an emulator, not virtualizer. The OS inside QEMU is
almost totally isolated from your real hardware.

> A vritualizer that runs the actual hardware, playing traffic cop between the 
> real session and the virtual sessions?? Real native speed and effective 
> multimedia?

Xen runs at native performance, QEMU does not.
QEMU can run any OS, Xen cannot.


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Re: Is the Etch NVIDIA driver wrong?

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S Scharf wrote:

> The pre-built modules of normal driver are also in Testing, as they are
>> built from different source. They are, however, useless without user
>> space components, such as "nvidia-glx".
>
> Which gets me back to my origional question. The NVIDIA driver in Testing
> requires a different kernel version than the one in testing !?  Is the
> system broken?

If "no driver" == "broken", then yes, it is. And no, I do not know how
or why packages with unsatisfied dependencies got into Testing.


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Re: Nvidia (their's) driver on multiple kernels.

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James Westby wrote:

>> Then installed the nvidia-glx.

Did the package install cleanly or were there any errors?

>> Did not work. The libglx.so, etc were not installed anywhere I (or the 
>> xorg.conf) could find them. I will check again when the locate db is 
>> updated. 
>> Reinstalled the nvidia run meanwhile.

[...]

> Yes, but I guess they are there somewhere, it would be rare for a
> package to be uploaded containing no files.

It is possible that on uninstall NVIDIA installer removed something it
should not. Try reinstalling "xserver-xorg-core" and maybe GL (mesa) and
GLUT libs after removing the driver.


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Re: Is Xen for Stable/Unstable distro a good idea?

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Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

> I've followed this thread a bit and maybe you all can help me. I've
> got a winxp partition that I have to boot into only occaisionally to
> get some archived data from an old quickbooks file. Can I
> use one of these solutions to do that?

QEMU can run WinXP, although the performance will be quite poor, unless
you install a proprietary accelerator module (it cannot be distributed
with Debian, so you will have to do it manually).

As I have already mentioned, QEMU can run of real file systems, but an
operating system must be able to deal with hardware changes. WinXP is
not really good at that, so it may or may not work. A thing to remember
is that you should run it in snapshot mode (changes to a file system are
not written onto a disk), in case something goes wrong.

The best thing to do would be to install the OS onto a disk image (or to
a real partition, if you really want to) trough QEMU. You can install
from a real CD, or from a CD image. It is really as easy as it sounds.

QEMU offers a lot of options for sharing data between host and guest OS.
For example you can set up SMB network, use a directory as a drive etc.

Some GUI front-ends also exist, if you are not familiar with QEMU
command line options. None of them are in Debian yet, but here is the list:

KDE:
 http://kqemu.sourceforge.net/
 http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/kqemu/kqemu-0.3Alpha.tgz?download

GTK+:
 https://gna.org/projects/qemulaunch
 http://svn.gna.org/daily/qemulaunch-snapshot.tar.gz

> or am I better waiting for wine to support quickbooks (not yet afaik).

Are you sure? I checked Wine AppDB and it does contain it. Does not mean
that it does run, but at least it is a known application. You could also
 try running it from real WinXP partition, if it does not work stand-alone.


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Re: Nvidia (their's) driver on multiple kernels.

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Wulfy wrote:

> Are there debs for the *legacy* driver? 

Only for 7174.

> I need the 7167 driver for my TNT2 card.  I've been using the
> .run file from nVidia and am having problems with the latest updated
> 2.6.8(-3-686) (sarge) kernel.  It won't seem to compile for it and wants
> to remove the driver so from the 2.6.8-2-686 modules.

Two days ago NVIDIA released an updated 7182 legacy driver, but it is
not in Debian yet.


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Re: coreldraw for linux

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Han wrote:

> Is a coreldraw package for debian or is there anything close enough to
> it in Linux, please dont say Gimp because the two are very different.

Try inkscape, skencil, sodipodi, synfig.


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Re: Sarge Kernel Image Package Question

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Kenneth Bond wrote:

> I was under the impression that running apt-get update, apt-get upgrade
> would upgrade my installed kernel packages - for example from
> kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686===> kernel-image-2.6.8-3-686? Or do I need to
> perform a manual kernel-image package installation when new kernel-image
> packages are released.

You need to install a "kernel-image-2.6-686" meta package, that always
depends on the latest kernel, if you want kernel upgrades to happen
automatically.


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Re: Sarge Kernel Image Package Question

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Ralph Katz wrote:

> Somehow the Debian Developers don't see this as a problem (having to
> manually install the meta package).  I reported this in March [1] when
> it appeared to me to be a problem many users would have since the meta
> package,  kernel-image-2.6-686, was /not/ installed in the default sarge
> installation.
> 
> I hope Etch will install the meta package by default.

Why should it? Many people prefer to manually choose their kernels, as
this is not something you can upgrade at any given time. It is not a
problem either way - installing or removing a meta package is not that
hard, is it?


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Re: OOo check and radio buttons

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Marc Shapiro wrote:

> I have not done the upgrade, yet, so I have a question.  I do not run
> either KDE, or Gnome.  Is this going to be a problem for me?  Do I need
> to install packages for a DE that I don't even run?  Or should I wait
> until they fix this before upgrading?

You can install "openoffice.org-gtk" and set "OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=gnome"
environment variable as a work-around. Hopefully you already run a
couple of GTK applications, so there should not be much extra data to
install.


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Re: embedded firefox

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Ian Bull wrote:

> Does anyone know if the firefox available with debian (sid) is compiled
> with dynamic libraries (instead of static ones). This is needed to use
> firefox as an embedded browser.

Firefox in Debian uses shared libraries. You, however, can recompile it
any way you want.


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Re: What is "semantic"?

[Linas Žvirblis]

Haines Brown wrote:

> When was Semantic introduced, and what is its purpose? Is it
> associated with ext3 as well as ReiserFS? With the newer kernels?

This "semantic"?

-
aptitude show semantic

[...]

Description: Parser Infrastructure for Emacsen
 The Semantic Bovinator's goal is to provide an intermediate API for
 authors of language agnostic tools who want to deal with languages in
 a generic way.  It also provides a simple way for Mode Authors, who
 are experts in their language, to provide a parser for those tool
 authors, without knowing anything about those tools.

[...]

 Semantic is now a part of CEDET (Collection of Emacs Development
 Environment Tools).
-

I am not an Emacs user, so I do not know if this is really it. You could
use "aptitude" tool to find out if some package you use depends on
"semantic".


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Re: Fluxbox and Debian menu

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Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

>> How could I make that happening to Fluxbox? 
> 
> do you have the menu-xdg package installed?

"menu-xdg" is not needed. Fluxbox (the one in Debian at least) uses
standard Debian Menu system, and has been doing that for as long as I
can remember.

It sounds that you have run "update-menus" as a normal user some time in
the past. In that case your menu structure is probably saved in your
home directory and is out of reach for global "update-menus". Try
removing "~/.fluxbox/fluxbox-menu" file and re-running "update-menus" as
root.

Do not run "update-menus" as a normal user, unless you really want to
have your menu not to update automatically. It is a feature, not a bug.


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Re: farewell mp3 :(

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Ron Johnson wrote:

>> $ mp3check -a file.mp3
>> file.mp3:
>> anomaly: bitrate 192kbit/s
>   ^^^
> 
> That doesn't look good.

The question is, why bitrate of 192 kb/s is considered anomaly?

roberto, could you please explain what do you mean by "higher rate"? I
am not a native English speaker, so I may be misunderstanding something.

You provided very little information, so please answer the following
questions in detail:

1. What system do you run? Stable, Testing, Unstable, up-to-date or not?
2. What kernel are you using? Post output of "uname -a" command.
3. What desktop environment are you using? GNOME, KDE, other?
4. When did it start? After upgrade maybe?
5. Do other sound formats (OGG, WAV, etc.) and applications that produce
sound (games for example) work fine?
6. What players (with versions) exactly are you using?
7. What sound system are you using? ALSA, OSS, arts, esd? Look in
players' configuration for settings that have similar options.


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Re: Fluxbox and Debian menu

[Linas Žvirblis]

> Is it possible to keep my own menu, while link to the system menu via a
> "Debian" sub-menu? 

No, I do not think this is possible. It is, however, possible to add
your own entries by adding custom menufiles to "~/.menu/" directory. The
syntax is described here [1]. Although you may want to read the entire
document [2].

[1] http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/menu.html/ch3.html
[2] http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/menu.html/index.html


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Re: Fluxbox and Debian menu

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Wayne Topa wrote:

>> Do not run "update-menus" as a normal user, unless you really want to
>> have your menu not to update automatically. It is a feature, not a bug.
> 
> One of the benefits of the menu system is that users can add items to
> 'their' X menus to ~/.menu.  As they are not read, when root runs 
> update-menus,
> how to _you_ get them to load?

I do not. That is why I totally forgot that not all locations are read
on global runs. Sorry about misguiding information.

> I personally run update-menus whenever I
> add a menu not supplied by the author/maintainer and have not had any major
> problems with it.

I never said there is anything wrong with it. It will simply not update
automatically anymore, at least in most environments.


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Re: Force kill a process?

[Linas Žvirblis]

Hans du Plooy wrote:

> mercury:/home/www/web8/web# ps ax | grep ftp
>  3123 ?Ds 0:00 proftpd: (accepting connections)
> 18183 ?D  0:00 /usr/sbin/proftpd
> 19079 pts/0D  0:00 /usr/sbin/proftpd
> 
> How do I kill this?  

"kill -9 3123 18183 19079" maybe?

> I'm not exactly in a position to restart the server.

What do you mean? You are not the owner of the process? In that case you
will not be able to kill it in the first place.


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Re: Wiki for Java Developers Using Debian

[Linas Žvirblis]

Redefined Horizons wrote:

> Other developers that are working with Debian are welcome to
> contribute to the wiki page. Hopefully it will mature into a helpful
> knowledge base for Java development on Debian.

Why not integrate it into official Debian wiki?


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Re: Horrible performance: hdparm

[Linas Žvirblis]

Osamu Aoki wrote:

> What does people feel to make hdparm with DMA enabled to be default for
> etch?

Is is not the kernel that needs to be tuned to enable/disable this by
default? It also seems more reliable than simply brute-forcing this on.


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Re: (no subject)

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Brent Clark wrote:

> My question is, how would they go about that? What tools or tests were
> needed to test whether an account has a strong or weak password.

You should consult John the Ripper. He is likely to be found in "john"
package, although I do not know if this particular tool was used.


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Re: "Unpacking replacement..." hangs in apt-get.

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Adam Soltan wrote:

> I have an annoying problem with apt-get. When I run for instance
> apt-get upgrade it shifts into gear and starts downloading
> packages but it then hangs while unpacking some of them.

Are you sure that it really hangs? Unpacking some packages can take a while.


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Re: Trying `Wine'

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Ron Johnson wrote:

> People who install Debian also using commercial s/w?
> 
> Oh, the horror!  Quick, call RMS

He would say that commercial is not the same as non-free.


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Re: Fluxbox + Firefox slow

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Nick Wright wrote:

> I use fluxbox as my window manager. Its pretty sweet for most stuff --
> light and fast. However when scrolling around in firefox the system is
> brought to its knees (CPU load spikes to 80-90%). This also happens
> quite a bit when altering the focus between firefox and other windows.

Disabling smooth scrolling may help. Although on my system it still is
slow as hell.

> Does anyone else find the same thing? Can you recommend any
> alternatives to firefox that perform better in fluxbox (and obviously
> is as featureful as possible)

In my experience, pretty much anything will perform better.

-- Epiphany (epiphany-browser) --

This one is rather simplistic, but "epiphany-extensions" can give it
quite a boost. It is GNOME based, but GNOME applications perform very
well in Fluxbox.

-- Galeon (galeon) --

Another browser for GNOME. It has a comfortable interface that lets you
change most options quickly. It does not seem to support extensions of
any kind, but it already has quite a lot of features.

-- Kazehakase (kazehakase) --

An interesting GTK+ based browser. It is somewhat similar to Galeon, but
does things differently. The drawback is that it will pull Mozilla in.

-- Mozilla (mozilla-browser) --

The mother of all free software browsers. Has a lot of features,
extensions, an ugly interface.


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Re: Fluxbox + Firefox slow

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Kelly Clowers wrote:

>> -- Kazehakase (kazehakase) --
>>
>> An interesting GTK+ based browser. It is somewhat similar to Galeon, but
>> does things differently. The drawback is that it will pull Mozilla in.
> 
> Never heard of this one before. By "pull Mozilla in" do you mean it uses
> Gecko, the Moz rendering engine? Because Epiphany and Galeon use it too.

No, unlike Epiphany and Galeon it embeds Mozilla browser directly in its
own window.


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Re: Mozilla or firefox package-what is the difference?

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J F wrote:

> Mozilla or firefox package-what is the difference?
> 
> I guess I'm a little confused about which one is better/newer or
> the one to use?

* 'mozilla' and 'mozilla-browser' - original Mozilla, it is now
   considered obsolete and is replaced by SeaMonkey (not yet in Debian).
* 'mozilla-firefox' - an older version of Firefox.
* 'firefox' - a new version of Firefox.

Note that Mozilla and Firefox are very different. Firefox is newer, but
it does not mean that everybody likes it. Read this thread [1].

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/07/msg02035.html


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Re: how to rip a data DVD

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Silvio Jorge Auler Junior wrote:

>  I'm searching for a way to rip data DVD's, i've tried "dd" but during the 
> process it stop returning an error,
> which i think it's caused due some kind of block or encrypted data in the 
> media.

Try 'readcd' (in 'cdrecord' package) or 'ddrescue'. Can you copy the
files from the DVD when you mount it?

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Re: which locale

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Wei Hu wrote:

> Which locale should I use? I am using en_US.utf8 as the default
> locale. but when I do $ls to display non-English file name or
> directory. I get something like  ((invalid Unicode).
> 
> I'd like to use English as the default locale, but still can display
> non-English file name without these '???invalid Unicode's.

This means that the filenames are not in UTF8. UTF8 can be used to write
text in most (all?) languages, but it does not mean that you will be
able to view filenames written in non-UTF8 encoding.

Your best bet would be to set the locale that works with the filenames,
rename the files using only ASCII characters, set the UTF8 locale back,
and rename the files to what you want.

Alternatively, you can simply rename ? files, like you would rename
any other file.


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Re: how can i run flv videos ? (metacafe)

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Jabka Atu wrote:

> im trying to run flv video ( debian  unstable).
> 
> i have installed the essential codecs from  mplayer and im able to run
> wmv9 videos.

'mplayer' itself is able to play these.

> i have non-free flash package.

You do not need this to play the files.


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Re: where can i get cedega package ?

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>> OK, gimme one :-)
> 
> There’s a howto right here[0], but I didn’t get it to work.

Wine (which is a father and a mother of Cedega) is usually just as good
at running games. The only thing that is not yet there is support for
some CD copy protection systems, so you may need to patch the games.


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Re: where can i get cedega package ?

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Jabka Atu wrote:

> the reason that i go to cedega is Hereos 4 .
> i play this game for hours and sometime for days.
> but ...
> if you lose a battle you get error no 5 or 1 and wine crashes.

Guess you just have to play very well. :)

Just kidding. I just checked the Wine AppDB [1] and it seems to be
working for many people. Maybe there is some specific option you need to
set to make it work properly. Have you tried searching trough Wine
mailing list and forums for advice?

> also i tried starting sims 2 with wine and i got the same errors.

DirectX 9.0c support is not yet finished in Wine, so Sims 2 will not
run. It, however, does not seem to work in Cedega [2] either.

I am not trying to discourage you from trying Cedega, but if you are not
experienced enough to compile it yourself, your best bet would be to buy
it. There are no packages, and there never will be, as Transgaming
threatened to remove the free version entirely if somebody packages it.

[1] http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1638
[2] http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/wiki/The_Sims_2


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Re: Get the ip address without using "root"?

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> How to get the address of the local machine without using "root"?
> ifconfig cannot be issued by a common user. TIA!

It can, '/sbin/ifconfig'.


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Insane numbers in SMART report

[Linas Žvirblis]

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Sorry for being little off-topic, but I am really clueless on where else
I could ask.

I just installed "smartmontools" on this brand new laptop with SATA HDD,
and the numbers I am seing are a bit scary. This is what I am talking
about...

1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate ... 90912
2 Throughput_Performance  ... 22348118
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   ... 8589934592000
7 Seek_Error_Rate ... 1559
  196 Reallocated_Event_Count ... 458686464
  195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  ... 281
  203 Run_Out_Cancel  ... 433781670603

...full output attached.

195 and 203 are sometimes increasing, and sometimes decreasing, 5 and
196 seem to be stable.

This just does not make any sense. Hard drive cannot be _that_ broken
and still operational, can it? I ran the "long" and "offline" tests, and
there does not seem to be any errors in the logs.

What is going on?

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=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Fujitsu MHV series
Device Model: FUJITSU MHV2080BH PL
Serial Number:NW9ZT723SMVU
Firmware Version: 892C
User Capacity:80.026.361.856 bytes
Device is:In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   7
ATA Standard is:  ATA/ATAPI-7 T13 1532D revision 4a
Local Time is:Sun Apr 15 02:23:42 2007 EEST
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x02) Offline data collection activity
was completed without error.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status:  (   0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever 
been run.
Total time to complete Offline 
data collection: ( 471) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:(0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off 
support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
No Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:(0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:(0x01) Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine 
recommended polling time:(   2) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:(  55) minutes.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME  FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE  UPDATED  
WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f   100   100   046Pre-fail  Always   
-   90912
  2 Throughput_Performance  0x0005   100   100   030Pre-fail  Offline  
-   22348118
  3 Spin_Up_Time0x0003   100   100   025Pre-fail  Always   
-   0
  4 Start_Stop_Count0x0032   100   100   000Old_age   Always   
-   91
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   024Pre-fail  Always   
-   8589934592000
  7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f   100   100   047Pre-fail  Always   
-   1559
  8 Seek_Time_Performance   0x0005   100   100   019Pre-fail  Offline  
-   4
  9 Power_On_Seconds0x0032   100   100   000Old_age   Always   
-   0h+02m+08s
 10 Spin_Retry_Count0x0013   100   100   020Pre-fail  Always   
-   0
 12 Power_Cycle_Count   0x0032   100   100   000Old_age   Always   
-   33
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   100   100   000Old_age   Always   
-   7
193 Load_Cycle_Count0x0032   100   100   000Old_age   Always   
-   3181
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022   100   100   000Old_age   Always   
-   39 (Lifetime Min/Max 17/44)
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x001a   100   100   000Old_age   Always   
-   281
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x00

Re: to allow root logins or not?

[Linas Žvirblis]

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Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:

> If something happens during boot and you want to boot single, /home
> isn't mounted and only root is allowed to log in.  If there is no root
> user, how does this happen?

This one is a nasty surprise. You will be given a root prompt _without_
being asked for password. This looks more like a bug, rather than a
feature, to me.

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Re: to allow root logins or not?

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Greg Folkert wrote:

>> Keyboard-only access (where the hardware is in a secure cage) when
>> the attacker does not know the root password leaves you in the same
>> position as if he were telneting in.
> 
> VERY FEW places do this anymore. And in any case I said "touch the
> keyboard and have physical access to the machines internals"

I do realize that you can break any security in a certain amount of
time, but that is really not the point. The point is that the installer
option is misleading. It says that it will disable root logins, and does
exactly the opposite - it enables passwordless root login.

I also strongly disagree that this is not a security concern. It is like
not locking your car because it is easy to break a window and open the
door from inside. After all, there is nothing you can do to prevent
someone from getting into your car if one can get near it.

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Re: to allow root logins or not?

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Greg Folkert wrote:

> Okay. then, do a test install with root disabled, Then try to login from
> the console as root.
> 
> Won't work.

Yes, with "normal" runlevels.

> What you are trying to intimate is that when booting into single user
> mode you just get right in.

Well, yes. I recently did a clean install with root logins disabled.
When I booted into single user mode it said something about root account
being disabled and gave me a root prompt. Is this not the expected behavior?

> Okay, so if you *ARE* at the console and you
> are booting... what is to stop you from doing a modified boot where
> "init = /bin/sh"
> 
> Hmmm. Didn't think about that huh?

I did. I have grub password-protected.

> And the analogy about a car and its locks... If the person is really
> interested in your car and it is behind bars or in a cage/locked down
> facility... what really matters is the physical access being removed.
> But once in there he/she only has a limited amount of time before the
> "authorities" take measures.

Maybe my analogy is not the best one. But this is a security concern. So
is passwordless BIOS setup, and so is passwordless bootloader. From what
I understand, we both agree on this.

My point is that the installer option does not do what it says. It makes
machine more secure once running, but makes it more vulnerable at boot
time, and it is not obvious that this will happen.

> Come on, think with me on this, don't let those piss-green colored
> glasses color your thinking habits.

Green does not really suit me.

I realize that it is trivial to fix. I can password-protect grub, and
remove single user mode from the menu. I can also set an insanely
complex password for root user, and never use it.

I never fully understood why Debian does not default to most secure, but
this is not what I am talking about right now. I am merely pointing out
what I consider to be a problem with the installer.

Please do not take my words as a personal attack. That was never my
intention.

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Re: Sid, xorg and fglrx

[Linas Žvirblis]

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Dominique Dumont wrote:

>> From my experience fglrx works with kernel 2.6.20 (amd64).

I would recommend using 2.6.21 on new HP laptops. Not
sure about this particular one, but on some models ACPI is totally
broken with anything before 2.6.21-rc5. And by "totally" I mean "may fry
your hardware". Check your fan and temperature readings under load.

> But, it cannot use xserver-xorg-core 1.3.0. So you will have to hold
> xserver-xorg-core to 1.1.1-21 until (at least) the next release.

It can use 1.3.0 just fine, it just refuses to do so because of a dumb
version check performed by the driver. Fortunately, there is a fix. Just
run one of the attached scripts (NOT BOTH) as root after installing the
driver, and it should work. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK.

> Furthermore, xv is broken with 8.36.5.

Just use software scaling or OpenGL output. Whatever works with your
media player.

Did I mention that fglrx drivers suck?

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Description: application/shellscript

Re: Sid, xorg and fglrx

[Linas Žvirblis]

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Dominique Dumont wrote:

> If it's a dumb check, I guess I should try also to re-build the fglrx
> driver *once* xserver-xorg-core 1.3.0 is installed.

To make it work _without_ the hack? No, it will not help. The check is
performed by fglrx_drv.so, which is not built, but distributed in binary
form, and it has the check hardcoded.

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Re: Sid, xorg and fglrx

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Joe Hart wrote:

> After a bit of investigation, I just want to point out that the hacks
> that you provided are illegal.  They directly violate the ATI license
> agreement that one agrees to when installing the proprietary drivers in
> the first place.  Another reason to boycott ATI video cards.

I only provided the scripts, not the modified binaries. The scripts
contain nothing owned by ATI. I am free to write whatever weird numbers
I want, as a bunch of numbers cannot be copyrighted. I can also have any
file named "fglrx_drv.so", if I so desire.

Whether it is legal for you to use them is debatable, but you are free
to choose not to use them.

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Re: Burning files to a CD with K3b

[Linas Žvirblis]

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Amy Templeton wrote:

> Eric A. Bonney  wrote:
>
>> Is there anyway to get K3b to allow you to write files to the CD
>> from a network drive? In order to burn any files to a cd I first
>> have to copy them to my local drive then copy them over. Any
>> ideas or help?
> 
> This is just a random shot in the dark that may or may not work,
> but have you tried using symlinks (ln -s /path/to/realfile.ogg
> /path/to/symlink.ogg) instead of copying the files? That may be
> enough to fool K3B into thinking they're local, or it might not.
> Anyway, that's probably not the solution you're looking for, but if
> worse comes to worst you could give it a shot.

Disclaimer: I have never used K3B. I assume you are using KDE or GNOME.

The desktop environment provides a level of abstraction, so that you do
not need to know how files are accessed. Unfortunately this
functionality is only available for applications that are aware of it.
While K3B may be aware of it, the backend it uses for burning the CD's
is not, and therefore cannot find the files. K3B should copy the files
for you, but I guess this functionality is not implemented.

Anyway, burning directly from the network is not safe, unless you are
building the CD image before burning (in which case the files are copied
anyway). Or you can copy the files manually, and burn "on the fly",
without needing to create the image.

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Re: (OT) Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

[Linas Žvirblis]

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Greg Folkert wrote:

> No, there is another way, making all Debian lists subscriber only.

And what exactly is this going to solve? How many of the "offenders" are
not subscribed already?

Besides, I would definitely not want all lists to be subscriber-only. I
am subscribed to at least 10 Debian, and 10 non-Debian mailing lists,
and receive about 300 emails every 24 hours. The least I would want to
do, is increase the volume of messages by subscribing to mailing lists
that I am not interested at all, and only post once in a year, or so.

And what is the problem anyway? So things were getting little loose, but
everybody should have gotten the point by now. A clearly defined policy
for a mailing list is all good, but no need to go crazy about the issue.

Regards,
Linas

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Re: running qemu on an AMD64 box to host Windows 98......

[Linas Žvirblis]

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Michael Fothergill wrote:

> There were some references to running qemu on AMD64 but mostly indirect ones.
> 
> Has anyone tried this?

Yes, works just fine.

> At a dumb level, is qemu smart enough to "fake" the 32 bit environment on my 
> 64 bit box running Debian AMD64 OS that MS Windows 98 would be happy to run 
> on or would it only let you run a 64 bit version of  MSWindows on a 64 bit 
> machine like mine?

AMD64 is an extension of i386 architecture, not a completely different
architecture. To put it short i386 + new features = AMD64. So if the OS
is a i386 32-bit one, it will simply not use the new features, but will
work just fine.

Also, QEMU emulates a 32-bit i386 system by default, even on AMD64.

> (In Debian I will just install the qemu package with synaptic).

Yes.

[...]

> Would these commands work OK in the AMD64 world?

Yes. The same as on i386.

> Your comments on the merits of qemuctl and qemu-launcher would be appreciated.

"qemu-launcher" will give you a user friendly GUI for configuring all
the options, and do other useful things, and "qemuctl" is a plug-in for
"qemu-launcher" that provides a GUI for controlling some run-time
options. Grab both.

If you will run "qemu-launcher" from the terminal, it will output the
command line needed to run the QEMU with the chosen options, so it is
also useful for learning.

If you have any questions or suggestions regarding "qemu-launcher", do
not hesitate to contact me on-list or privately. I like email. :)

Owen Heisler wrote:

> The kqemu-source package is in Debian.
> (in non-free for etch, otherwise in main)
> 
> Just install the kqemu-source package and run "m-a a-i kqemu"

Also on AMD64 system, you should check if your CPU supports hardware
virtualization (run "egrep '^flags.*(vmx|svm)' /proc/cpuinfo" and see if
anything shows up). If so, you could try using "kvm", which may be
faster than "kqemu".

Regards,
Linas

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Re: Is there a "Using Debian GNU/Linux" sticker?

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Johannes Wiedersich wrote:

> I have removed several of those stickers successfully by slightly
> warming the area and just carefully tearing those off. It depends on the
> composition of the surface it's attached to, of course. If there should
> remain a stickyness, you could try a soft detergent or propane alcohol etc.

New MS sticker are really cheap, and tend to wear out. They may also
partly unstick, especially if they catch some moisture. So removing them
preemptively is not that bad of an idea. :)

While you will hardly be able to remove all the glue along with the
sticker, it is usually not that hard to get rid of. If the glue used is
a "rubber" glue, you can simply rub it off with your finger. If it is
more aggressive, you can try rubbing it off with a piece of bandage (or
similar cloth).

Another trick is to apply a small amount of flour (yes, that stuff that
bread is made of) to the glue, and then rub it off. Flour will mix with
the glue forming a sort of gum, causing it to be less sticky and easier
to remove.

Of course, certain types of glue on certain surfaces tend to leave ugly
sticky stains, but they can usually be removed with alcohol. But use it
only as a last resort, and be very careful - alcohol can melt certain
plastics.

I would recommend against using any sort of non-alcohol cleaning fluid,
because usually it will only spread the stains, and make them harder to
remove.

If you are concerned that removing the sticker will remove a certain
amount value, in case you would like to sell your machine in the future,
do not be. Nobody cares about the thing, as it does not mean anything.
They even put those things on machines that cannot even install generic
XP SP2.

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Re: Is there a "Using Debian GNU/Linux" sticker?

[Linas Žvirblis]

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> You mean '(dis)-solve'.

Yes, I do. Thank you for clarification.

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Re: running qemu on an AMD64

[Linas Žvirblis]

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>> Could I use Linux to copy the Windows program exe files etc to the
>> Windows fake partition created by qemu and then go into Windows under
>> qemu and then get it to install the software?
> 
> For many pieces of software that scheme would work, but for "copy
> protected" discs it will fail.  These so-called 'copy protected' discs
> deliberately put bad data on the disc and a special program is loaded at
> install time to read the disc (and also to ensure that the bad stuff is
> there). For example, a naive attempt to back up 'Flight Simulator' will
> result in bad checksums etc.

There are actually more than one way to do this, depending on what you
are trying to do:

1. To create a CD image and use it as a virtual CD-ROM in QEMU you need
to run this command from a terminal:

 dd if=/dev/cdrom of=image.iso

"qemu-launcher" version 1.8.0~pre0-1, which is available in Debian
Experimental, can also do it, so can some GUI CD burning applications.

To use the CD image, run "qemu" like this...

 qemu -hda hard-disk.img -cdrom image.iso

...or browse to it in "qemu-launcher". A "-cdrom" can also point to a
real CD-ROM device, like "/dev/cdrom". In fact, if you do not use
"-cdrom" option, "qemu" will not emulate any CD-ROMs.

2. "qemu" also has this little known option that allows using real
directories as virtual drives. It works like this:

 qemu -hda hard-disk.img -hdb fat:/home/user/directory

The guest OS will not be allowed to write to the directory by default.
If you want this, use the following command:

 qemu -hda hard-disk.img -hdb fat:rw:/home/user/directory

In any case, you should not modify anything in the directory while the
emulator is running. This will confuse the guest OS, and may result in
corrupted data being read.

3. There is also a way to mount the virtual hard disk, and access it
directly, but it requires root access, and is not really nice. It works
like this:

 sudo mount -o loop,offset=32256 /path/to/image.img /mnt/something

Do not forget to umount it before starting the emulator. No disk image
should be used both by guest and host OS at the same time, as it may and
probably will) corrupt the image.

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Re: disk temp monitoring

[Linas Žvirblis]

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pol write:

> Hi all

Hello,

> Often my laptop overheats, although the cpu is not overloaded (according to
> the 'top' monitor)

What do you mean by "overheats"? Does it become extremely slow, or shuts
down? Or does it simply become warm? How do you monitor temperature?

Most new laptops run quite warm. The temperature of the motherboard can
reach 50 C, and CPU may run at 40 C - 55 C. This is usually normal.

The most common reason for overheating is broken ACPI, and (as a result)
CPU fans not turning on. Also check if went holes are not clogged with
dust, if the machine is not new.

> I guess the only other component that can get hot is the spinning hard disk.
> I have tried the command 
>  hdparm -S 1 /dev/sda
> turning off the disk after 5 seconds of inactivity, but nothing has changed.

Hard drives use more energy while spinning up and down, than in normal
active state. Constant switching between active and standby states will
also reduce the lifespan of the disk.

It only makes sense if you can get your disk to remain in standby mode
for at least 10 minutes, which you will probably not be able to achieve
on a full-featured desktop/laptop system. My advice: LET THE DISK SPIN.

> I guess that it could be due to the system often writing or reading the
> disk, although the led monitoring the disk access does not light up.

The disk should never ever overheat, even under load. If it does,
something is terribly wrong. Temperatures between 40 C and 50 C are
usually fine.

> My questions: 
>   how do i force the system not to write to disk so often, so that my disk 
>do not start spinning every minutes? 

The best tool for this is probably "laptop-mode-tools". This and a lot
of manual tweaking of your entire system. Most likely not worth it.

>   Are the disk and the cpu  the only possible causes of heating?

More likely CPU only. It produces way more heat than any other component.

>   What facilities to use to tell whether the  disk is spinning?

To check current the state of you your hardware, run:

 sudo hdparm -C /dev/hda

Check "man hdparm" for explanation of states.

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Re: disk temp monitoring

[Linas Žvirblis]

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pol wrote:

> Yet, after hours, quiet and cold, the bottom starts warming up, after more
> hours, in a few minutes, fan starts running at the highest speed,  a
> writing shows up on the screen: 'critical temp reached' (over 100 C) and the
> machine shuts down.

Weird. Please answer the following question:

* For how long does it run cool?
* Does it get warmer gradually, or suddenly becomes hot?
* Does it feel anything like 100 C? It should be fairly hot.
* Laptop model? BIOS version?
* Is it new machine?
* If it is not new, did it work before?
* Does it work with proprietary OS?

After running your laptop for some time (to let it warp up, so that the
temperatures reported wold not be the room temperature):

* Post output of "uname -a" (kernel info).
* Post output of "cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep model" (CPU model).
* Post output of "cat /proc/acpi/processor/*/*" (CPU info).
* Post output of "acpi -t" (current temperatures).
* Post output of "cat /proc/acpi/fan/*/state" (fan states).
* Post output of "cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/*/*" (cooler info).

> i have checked: fan is running, i can tell by the air jet on my hand

You should keep an eye on fan states to see if they run at all before
the overheat. They must not run all the time, but should turn on from
time to time.

I still suspect broken ACPI. Try upgrading to a new kernel (found in
Unstable and Experimental), and see if that helps. Some popular laptops
need at least 2.6.21 to work properly.

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Re: bcm43xx issues an error message every minute

[Linas Žvirblis]

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Sudev Barar rašė:

>> bcm43xx: PHY connected
>> bcm43xx: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load
>> failed
>> bcm43xx: core_up for active 802.11 core failed (-2)

[...]

> This means that your machine has broadcom wireless card and normally
> this will not work without ndiswrapper.

No, ndiswrapper is not the only choice.

bcm43xx driver is not really stand-alone. It needs firmware to work,
which it reports cannot find. Grab "bcm43xx-fwcutter" package to get
firmware.

Also read documentation of "bcm43xx-fwcutter". Some cards work only with
specific (that usually means older) firmware, and you may need to
install it manually with the tools it provides.

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Re: disk temp monitoring

[Linas Žvirblis]

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pol wrote:

>> * Laptop model? BIOS version?
> 
> it is hp tc4200 tablet-- do not know about the bios, but i remember it was
> released in 2005

Do upgrade your BIOS to the latest version. These things have broken
ACPI implementation that most likely is the reason for the overheat.

> But I suspect X is involved, since sometimes it gets 100% of the cpu time
> (according to 'top') for tens minutes, with no special reasons that i can
> see. Maybe a misconfiguration of xorg.conf? (Graphics card is
> ATI9700radeon) 

There may be a bug somewhere (especially if you are using fglrx driver),
but that should not matter - a properly working system may run at 100%
load forever, and will not overheat.

>> I still suspect broken ACPI. Try upgrading to a new kernel (found in
>> Unstable and Experimental), and see if that helps. Some popular laptops
>> need at least 2.6.21 to work properly.
> 
> i am running k/ubuntu, for which 2.6.21 is not yet available. If needed i
> can compiile it by myself but it woudl take me a lot of time.

Ubuntu is NOT Debian. They replace large parts of Debian with software
of their own, that is usually is more unstable, and has different set of
bugs. For this reason we (Debian guys) can only give you general advise,
but pinpointing specific bugs is not really possible.

And I still strongly encourage you to upgrade to 2.6.21 (it is available
in Debian Unstable), because it fixes a lot of problems with HP laptops.

WARNING: Do NOT compile kernel on said laptop. Compiling is very
CPU-intensive task, and may damage your hardware, if cooling does not
properly work.

Some HP laptops have an option in the BIOS to force the fans on (at
slowest speed), when using AC power. But this may not be enough to cool
the CPU under heavy load. Better than nothing, though.

You may need _both_ the kernel and the latest BIOS to get going. You
mentioned that you have XP installed - use it to update the BIOS via HP
tools.

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Re: disk temp monitoring

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pol wrote:

> I have updated the bios and now things are getting better with linux. Until
> my laptop is plugged in, it is almost cold when touching the lower side,
> even colder that when ms-windows is running.

Good.

> When it is on battery it gets warmer, but never reaches critical
> temperature. I have monitored the four T points, noting that when the
> laptop is unplugged, T1 grows a little, while T4 decreases (here enclosed a
> graph, in xfig format).

It is normal that the systems run a bit warmer on batteries, as the
battery itsel warms up. Also some additional power savings may be done
by reducing the speed of the fan.

> I am wondering what parts of the machine are monitored by these T points 
> and whether these data can be correlated with others, to spot the hardware
> involved in overheating.

T1 is obviously the CPU, the others are probably various sensors placed
in different locations on your motherboard. It is very likely that only
T1 has a fan, so others will always be reported as "off".

Have a look at "lm-sensors" package, and especially "sensors-detect"
program - it may provide some additional information.

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Re: cd drive config

[Linas Žvirblis]

George Borisov wrote:

>> kscd says "CDROM read or access error / please make sure you have access
>> permissions to /dev/cdrom" which seems to be missing the point.
> 
> Are you in the "disk" group?

No no no, "disk" is the wrong group. It allows raw access to hard
drives, meaning that it would become really easy to mess up the entire
system. The correct group to add yourself to is "cdrom".


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Re: cd drive config

[Linas Žvirblis]

>>> kscd says "CDROM read or access error / please make sure you have access
>>> permissions to /dev/cdrom" which seems to be missing the point.
>>
>> Are you in the "disk" group?
> 
> No no no, "disk" is the wrong group. It allows raw access to hard
> drives, meaning that it would become really easy to mess up the entire
> system. The correct group to add yourself to is "cdrom".

I was a bit too quick posting this. It seems that "/dev/hdc" on the said
system is in fact owned by "root:disk". This is wrong nonetheless. On my
system I have...

 ls -al /dev/hd*
 brw-rw 1 root disk   3, 0 2006-04-09 02:31 /dev/hda
 brw-rw 1 root disk   3, 1 2006-04-09 02:31 /dev/hda1
 brw-rw 1 root disk   3, 2 2006-04-09 02:31 /dev/hda2
 brw-rw 1 root cdrom 22, 0 2006-04-09 02:31 /dev/hdc

Are you sure your "/dev/hdc" is in fact a CD-ROM? If it is, you should
"chown root:cdrom /dev/hdc" and add yourself to "cdrom" group. As I have
already said, being in a "disk" group is very dangerous.


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Re: Where did my Debian menu go?

[Linas Žvirblis]

Tim Beauregard wrote:

> Once upon a time I had a "Debian" menu in the Gnome applications
> drop-down list, where I had access to all the installed software (eg
> mldonkey) that didn't automatically appear in the main categories (I
> presume those are 'menu-aware' applications).  This "Debian" menu item
> disappeared after an upgrade, I guess it was about six months ago.  I
> miss it!  Is there a package that I need?  I don't want to create a menu
> of my own, I'd rather have it done for me as each package is installed.

You probably need a "menu-xdg" package. Oh the terrible world of double
standards... (long story, do not ask)


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Re: Applications do not get a menu item in my Gnome menu???

[Linas Žvirblis]

Joost Kraaijeveld wrote:

> Every so now and then I install an GUI application that does not show up
> in any menu I can click on. This time it is doxywizard from the package
> doxygen-gui 1.4.6-2.
> 
> The package has installed an /usr/share/menu/doxygen-gui file and I
> thought that that was the file that would make the program appear in a
> specific menu:

This is not the first question this week regarding this topic, so I
guess a bit of explanation needs to be done.

The are two menu standards in Debian: the freedesktop.org menu spec and
Debian Menu system. The thing is that they both live separate lives.

While most window managers found in Debian use the Debian Menu system,
GNOME (and I think KDE) use freedesktop.org menu spec. To make things
worse, a Debian menu file is mandatory (as defined in Debian Policy),
but freedesktop.org one is optional.

There currently is no solution for this double standard, but there is a
package called "menu-xdg" that translates Debian Menu files into
freedesktop.org menu files, so they become visible in GNOME.

> 1. Given the file above, should that program appear in any menu? Is so,
> which menu?

In GNOME it will probably appear as /Debian/Apps/Programming/Doxywizard.

> 2. How can I make the program appear?

Install "menu-xdg".

> 3. Is the the manual at
> http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/menu.html/ still valid (I
> tried several things described in that manual but I get all kind of
> results, and not anyone the wanted result ;-))?

Perfectly valid for Debian Menu system. It, however, has nothing to do
with freedesktop.org menu spec.


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Re: Circular Dependency

[Linas Žvirblis]

Redefined Horizons wrote:

> Is it possible for a Debian Package to have a circular dependency?

Yes.

> I tried installing the latest stable Debian packages for Eclipse. Synaptic
> told me that eclipse-jdt depended on eclipse-jdt-common, and that
> eclipse-jdt-common depended on eclipse-jdt.
> Is this possible?

Yes.

Is it a problem with the packages themselves?

Yes.

> If so, how do I let the package maintainer know?

You could report a bug [1] against affected packages, but first you
should make sure that it is still not fixed in the latest unstable
version. (it does not seem to be fixed in Eclise)

[1] http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting


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Re: Posting to d-u with gmail smtp

[Linas Žvirblis]

Andrei Popescu wrote:

> I just switched to gmail because my ISP is not very reliable and not
> accessible from everywhere (not smtp). Now I have a different issue and
> I was wondering how did other gmail users work around this. I'm posting
> and receiving d-u from the same account via smtp/pop. Because gmail
> saves my outgoing message it discards my post received via the list.

I save a copy of an outgoing message locally in my MUA, and have filters
set up, so that this copy is moved to where it should appear on the list.


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Re: Best Video Card

[Linas Žvirblis]

> I've seen reports that the free nv drivers are now as good as the 
> proprietary nvidia drivers.

If no hardware 3D acceleration is good enough for you, then they might
be as good. Otherwise you are stuck with their proprietary drivers.


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Re: Another bug of debian package --- Validation issue

[Linas Žvirblis]

formless void wrote:

> Xandros has the reputation of 2006 award winning from
> Linux World and this is true if you google it

How this is relevant?

> and they suggest that Debian need to issue an digital
> signature to its developer to make sure that their
> packages are authentic

They do not suggest that. They only mention that it is already being
worked on in Debian.

There is nothing Debian people can do to help you. Please ask Xandros
related questions at Xandros lists.


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Re: Fwd: Re: Another bug of debian package --- Validation issue

[Linas Žvirblis]

formless void wrote:

> Hah hah ... Am I right? ^___^

No you are not. That is not what he is saying. Please stop this
pointless discussion as you clearly lack the knowledge to understand
what is being said.


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Re: GRUB error 18

[Linas Žvirblis]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I just got Debian installed on my extra computer, but whenever I start 
> it, it goes to stage 1.5, then gives me error 18, and stops. I have found out 
> that error 18 has something to do with the boot loader and 8 gigs, but I'm 
> not sure. I have a 30 gigabyte Seagate Barracuda, and I installed Debian 
> using a netboot from two floppys. I can only boot from floppies, so I can't 
> use CDs. Can anyone point me in a direction to fix this? Thanks. 

If I remember correctly, this has happened to me once. My solution was
to set access mode of the hard drive from "LBA" to "Auto" in BIOS. The
strange thing was that it seemed to autodetect LBA anyway, but the error
was no more.

I came to conclusion that the BIOS is broken and I did not investigate
any further.


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Re: How do I change default pdf viewer for firefox 1.5 ?

[Linas Žvirblis]

Maxim Vexler wrote:

> I'm trying to configure the default application to be used when
> opening pdf files from FireFox. The current (default) application is
> /usr/bin/gpdf, I wish it to be /usr/bin/evince.

When you click on a link to pdf file and the dialog pops up, you can
click on the "Open with" drop down box, and browse to "/usr/bin/evince".
Firefox should remember this setting. Also there seem to be pdf related
extensions on Mozilla Update [1].

If you want this to apply globally to all users, I really do not know
how to do it, but I can give some general tips. You will probably need
to find a certain configuration file in "/etc/firefox/" and edit it by
hand, as Firefox is not really a GNOME application, so it does not
always follow GNOME settings. Uninstalling all other pdf viewers could
also do the job, as then there would be nothing to choose from.

Hope this helps.

[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/?application=firefox


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