brasero - not a bug in unstable
Hi all, I am not sure, If I hit the right mailing list, but: I am using testing and I wanted to install brasero, but brasero is only in unstable, cause there is reported bug against it. The problem is, as the author of the bug report explains here http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=454640, is not a bug AT ALL !!! this only one bug is blocking the way of brasero to testing. My question is, who can I turn to, when the brasero package maintainer doesn't answer my e-mails. Thanx in advance KaiSVK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Compiling blitz++ programs
Hello, how come I can compile and run a blitz++-program without linking
with -lblitz ?
The following program works both when compiled with g++ with or without
the -lblitz option. Running "ldd a.out" afterwards shows that it is linked
woth libblitz in the first case, and not in the other. But the program still
runs fine.
Best regards,
Torquil Sørensen
#include
#include
using namespace std; using namespace blitz;
int main() {
Array a(3,3), b(3,3), c(3,2);
Array d(3,3), e(3,2);
// Needed to do matrix multiplication by means of tensor notation
firstIndex i; secondIndex j; thirdIndex k;
// Can initialize all elements in one command
a = 1; b = 1; c = 1; d = 0; e = 0;
// Matrix Addition
d = a + b;
// Matrix multiplication, using tensor notation
e = sum(a(i,k)*c(k,j),k);
cout << "a:" << endl << a << endl;
cout << "b:" << endl << b << endl;
cout << "c:" << endl << c << endl;
cout << "a + b:" << endl << d << endl;
cout << "a*c:" << endl << e << endl;
return(0);
}
Re: KDE4 installation on Debian!
On Jan 22, 2008 11:05 AM, Kelly Clowers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm suprised that those are the only problems you encountered. Many people > that did not listen to KDE's explanations have been really angry or upset > about > the state of KDE 4.0.0. In fact, KDE 4.0.0 is in many ways a beta or a 1.0 > product, due to the massive changes in the KDE and QT frameworks. It was a pretty poor choice of version number, or too soon to call it good enough depending on how you look at it. Either way, waiting until the basics like configuring the desktop (esp. the taskbar) and Plasma worked right would have gone a long way in terms of first impression and usability on more than a trivial basis. > Anyway, 4.1 (hopefully in July) should be pretty nice: /That/ should have been 4.0 -- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
brasero - not a bug in unstable
Hi all, I am not sure, If I hit the right mailing list, but: I am using testing and I wanted to install brasero, but brasero is only in unstable, cause there is reported bug against it. The problem is, as the author of the bug report explains here http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=454640, is not a bug AT ALL !!! this only one bug is blocking the way of brasero to testing. My question is, who can I turn to, when the brasero package maintainer doesn't answer my e-mails. Thanx in advance KaiSVK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to do SMTP AUTH with exim?
Hello, I'm trying to send out email using exim. As I'm behind a firewall I can't just connect to any arbitary SMTP server out there but have to relay through my institution's SMTP server which requires authentification. Unfortunately I haven't found any information on how to make exim authentificate on OUTGOING SMTP connections. Thanks, --D. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to do SMTP AUTH with exim?
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 10:34:47 +0100 Daniel Haude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm trying to send out email using exim. Got it. Piece of cake. Just had to find the place in the /etc/exim dir and let Debian do its thing. --D. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox error - SSL_ImplementedCiphers
On 23 Jan 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > /usr/lib/iceweasel/firefox-bin: Symbol `SSL_ImplementedCiphers' has > different size in shared object, consider re-linking See bug #459356 [1] Footnotes: [1] http://bugs.debian.org/459356 -- Alok E Pluribus Unix -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use Mutt?
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 19:20:21 +0100, Dan H wrote: > Hmmm... I tried that, hoping that this would get me nearer the > infamous mutt. Hey, great, there's even an IMAP section! You can put > in everything... username, password, authentication methods... > except an IMAP server. I mean, c'mon. >From mine ... once I've found an editor that works today set folder="imaps://server/" set imap_user="username" set imap_pass="password" # set which mailboxes to check for new mail (and list on startup with # -y) mailboxes =INBOX -- Stephen Patterson :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: http://patter.mine.nu/ GPG: B416F0DE :: Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Don't be silly, Minnie. Who'd be walking round these cliffs with a gas oven?" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
List of packages in a stable i386 base install?
I am selecting a set of add-on packages for a small "service & rescue" install. I would like to know what is already included in the base install, and in general I'd like to see the latest version of this list of thigs. My guess is that it might not be included in the minimal net-install boot images but that it should be in a base install .iso, designed to be run all from CD. I looked into the latter (CD1, e.g. debian-40r2-i386-CD-1.iso, right?) and searched online but could not find it. I hope I'm not the only one who ever wondered . . . -- Where is the current list of packages included in a stable base i386 install, both in the .iso and online? (i.e. BEFORE installing it, that is!!!) -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debconf does not work
Hi, while using synaptic debconf complains with this message and does not work at all: Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0 at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Gnome.pm line 54. debconf: no se pudo inicializar la interfaz: Gnome debconf: (DISPLAY problem?) debconf: probando ahora la interfaz: Dialog debconf: no se pudo inicializar la interfaz: Dialog debconf: (La interfaz «dialog» no funcionará en un terminal tonto, un buffer de intérprete de órdenes de emacs, o sin una terminal controladora.) debconf: probando ahora la interfaz: Readline No dialog interface, no gnome interface ... Any ideas? Thanks -- .-. | Miguel J. Jiménez | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | :-: | PKS : hkp://pgp.rediris.es:11371 - KeyID : 0xFFE63EC6 | :-: | "El conocimiento es simplemente una opinión en la que uno | | confia lo suficiente para actuar en base a ella." | | Orson Scott Card (Children Of The Mind) | '-' signature.asc Description: Esta parte del mensaje está firmada digitalmente
Re: List of packages in a stable i386 base install?
SpamHog wrote: > I am selecting a set of add-on packages > for a small "service & rescue" install. > I would like to know what is > already included in the base install, > and in general I'd like to see > the latest version of this list of thigs. > > My guess is that it might not be included > in the minimal net-install boot images > but that it should be in a base install .iso, > designed to be run all from CD. > > I looked into the latter > (CD1, e.g. debian-40r2-i386-CD-1.iso, right?) > and searched online but could not find it. > > I hope I'm not the only one who ever wondered . . . dpkg-query -W or dpkg -l With the last one you'll see removed packages with configurations still on the system marked with 'rc' -- Juha Tuuna -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lightning, extension for icedove, screwed up
H.S. wrote: > > (Fixed the typo in the subject line.) > > > H.S. wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> I think after the recent two upgrades (within the last week), the >> Lightning extension for Icedove mail client seems to be screwed up. No >> calendars are shown anymore, no days are shown, the extension's >> interface is non-responsive for the most part. >> >> This is on Debian Testing and with Icedove 2.0.0.9-3 and 0.7 version >> of Lightning. >> >> Anybody else have similar problems? Or know what could be wrong? >> >> thanks, >> ->HS Hi Try installing the package libnspr4-dev. It has fixed the problem for me. If it does not work, you can also try an 'apt-get build-dep icedove'. I have read of some people for whom this command has fixed it, although for me it wasn't necessary. Good luck! Cheers, Cassiano Leal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cpufrequtils
Kalessin wrote: You should stay with the ondemand governor, you will not see any difference, except on yout electricity bill (and on the environnement too). Anyway, just edit /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor and it should work. (as root : echo "performance" /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor) You may need sysfsutils to set it up at boot time : edit /etc/sysfs.conf and write : devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor = performance Best Regards. The folks over in #vmserver on freenode say that the frequency scaling messes with the timing of the vms. I can say from my tests so far, this seems to be true. With ondemand my vms seem very sluggish taking up to 30 sec just to run a single ping command on the local net (not timing out, but just to run one ping and get a response) With performance, they are merely slow. So, I think I really need to switch to userspace and manually switch to full throttle when I need to get vm work done. snip Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: help installing to this machine?
Thanks, Joseph, Was that the same hardware? My problem seem to be related to the motherboard. Other people reported good results with the cpu.
Re: Advice: Hardware vs. Software RAID5
Am 2008-01-17 02:15:55, schrieb Scott Gifford: > Also, some hardware RAID systems require the system to be offline to > do a rebuild, which is less than ideal. Never had such Hardware-Raids... Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi 0033/6/6192519367100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) signature.pgp Description: Digital signature
Re: Question abut Debian 3.0
Am 2008-01-17 23:20:03, schrieb Nyros Technologies: > Hi iam lalith, Using debain 3.0 server, Iam setting a cron job through > cron job Management can you tell me what is the commant to use to run > my file - END OF REPLIED MESSAGE - Forst of all, Debian 3.0 aka Woody is not more supported and you should update it over 3.1 aka Sarge (OldStable) to 4.0 aka Etch (Stable). Then you can use * * * * * /path/to/command in /etc/crontab or using crontabs -e and then * * * * * /path/to/command without the . The five asterisk are meaning minute hour day-of-month day-of-week month and please read 'man 5 crontab'... Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi 0033/6/6192519367100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) signature.pgp Description: Digital signature
Grub serial console does not work
Hi,
I'm using since several years the serial console to get the grub menu
from a headless PC, that I configured following the instruction of the
Remote Serial Console HOWTO [1]. I'm now replacing the machine with a
mini-itx assembled with an Intel D201GLY2 board [2]. Using the same
configuration the grub menu appears ("Press any key to continue") only
on the local monitor, while the output on the serial console starts
working only when the kernel boots off.
Any idea which test may I do to understand where the problem is?
Thanks in advance.
Jimmi
[1]http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Remote-Serial-Console-HOWTO/configure-kernel-
grub.html
[2]http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/d201gly2/
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Slow Name Resolution - I guess
Hoi Everyone Consider I want to see www.foo.bar: I open my browser and type www.foo.bar. Now, my problem begins: Iceweasel says "Looking up www.foo.bar..." In recent days this "Looking up" process began to take quite a lot of time (more than 15 seconds). Now, I suppose that something is going wrong with the name resolution on my laptop. I also tested the "Looking-up" process at another place meaning that I was using another cable-connection. The behavior was the same as at home. Therefore, I conclude that something must be wrong with the configuration of my laptop. What shall I check? Regards Sam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: List of packages in a stable i386 base install?
On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 02:31:11AM -0800, SpamHog wrote: > I am selecting a set of add-on packages > for a small "service & rescue" install. > I would like to know what is > already included in the base install, > and in general I'd like to see > the latest version of this list of thigs. > > My guess is that it might not be included > in the minimal net-install boot images > but that it should be in a base install .iso, > designed to be run all from CD. > Since net-install can give you a minimal base system without a network then yes, all base debs will be there. You could just look at the list of debs supplied on the netinst.iso. > I looked into the latter > (CD1, e.g. debian-40r2-i386-CD-1.iso, right?) > and searched online but could not find it. > If I remember correctly, the base packages are pre-packaged as a tarball something like base-debs.tgz. If you find that tarball and can get a listing of of it (see man tar) then you'll know. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cpulimit
On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 12:20:48AM -0500, Manu Hack wrote: > Is there any command like nice so that I can run a command with a cpu > limit of at most x%? cpulimit is close to my need but it can't be > invoked like nice, i.e., put it before the command I want to run like > > cpulimit -l 50 some_commands Short answer: no. You mean the app uses e.g. max 50% and if nothing else is running the CPU is then 50% idle? There was a long thread on OpenBSD (where people discuss kernel internals) that concluded that UNIX has never had a scheduler that could do this. What problem are you trying to solve where you think that this is the answer? Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debconf does not work
On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 11:47:43AM +0100, Miguel J. Jim?nez wrote: > Hi, while using synaptic debconf complains with this message and does > not work at all: > > Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0 > at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Gnome.pm line 54. > debconf: no se pudo inicializar la interfaz: Gnome > debconf: (DISPLAY problem?) > debconf: probando ahora la interfaz: Dialog > debconf: no se pudo inicializar la interfaz: Dialog > debconf: (La interfaz ??dialog?? no funcionar?? en un terminal tonto, un > buffer de int??rprete de ??rdenes de emacs, o sin una terminal > controladora.) > debconf: probando ahora la interfaz: Readline > > No dialog interface, no gnome interface ... Any ideas? Thanks > Sure, debconf is configured to use a gnome interface and it can't find it. Go to a VT and do # dpkg-reconfigure -plow debconf and select either dialog or readline interface. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cpufrequtils SOLVED
Damon L. Chesser wrote: I run vmworkstation. I do not want my desktop to use ondemand. cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_governors userspace conservative ondemand powersave performance when I edit /etc/init.d./cpufrequtils ...snip # Set ENABLE to "true" to let the script run at boot time. # # eg:ENABLE="true" #GOVERNOR="ondemand" #MAX_SPEED=1000 #MIN_SPEED=500 ENABLE="true" GOVERNOR="ondemand" MAX_SPEED="0" MIN_SPEED="0" snip. and have it say GOVERNOR="performance" it will not come up from a boot that way. I will still have cpu frequency scaling running. I have to run /etc/init.d/cpufrequtils from the cli, and yet it IS in the rc.d scripts. Anybody knows what is going on here? Perhaps a better option for me would be to use userspace and manually set the freq (full when running vms, slower when not needed) and that way I will not always be sucking down the juice. What would a good userspace tool be? dual core amd cpus. I am running gnome desktop so I dpkg-reconfigure gnome-applets, set up frequency applet with suid root. This allows me the ability to use the applets to set the CPU scale. I can now choose an exact speed for my procs OR explicitly set the CPU governor by double clicking on the app. This should allow me to set the CPU freq to full, then fire up vmworkstation and my vms will not get confused as to the CPU speed. -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] 404-271-8699 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kernel panic with a recompiled LVM kernel.
Hello! I have compiled kernel for many years but this is a big problem: i've setting up a Debian 4.0 'etch' server with, for the first time, scsi disk partitioned with LVM, so i can manage it in a better way. The problem is that after a right recompilation of kernel i'm getting the classic kernel panic, like this: VFS: cannot open root device "" or unknown-block(0,0) Please append a correct "root=" boot option Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on blablabla I think that the kernel config is right ! Static ( and not module ) filesystem checked, lvm support checked and all other useful option for my hardware are checked, but WITHOUT initrd. May be the lack of the initrd to cause kernel panic ? LVM must use initrd ? Any help would be appreciated ! -- Christopher Bianchi GPG KEY ID: C16849BF ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) GPG KEY ID: 338521F7 ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where do you put your swap partition?
On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 02:21:28AM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote: > On Jan 23, 2008, at 1:40 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: > >Rick wrote > >>On my own systems, I make swap huge (10 GB or more for 1 GB RAM -- > >>Disk > >>is cheap!) so I can mount /tmp on a tmpfs filesystem. > > > >Is this for apps that say "if malloc() fails, I create a tmp file"? > > IOW, you pretty much ensure that malloc() will never fail? > If you have /tmp on physical disk (e.g. an ext3 filesystem) the > process of opening a file for writing, writing it, closing it, re- > opening it for reading, reading it back in, closing it and deleting > it, hits the disk several times, even with a large buffer cache. But > if that file is in a tmpfs filesystem and you've got enough ram, the > disk never gets involved. If it's in a tmpfs filesystem but you > don't have enough ram, you have to swap, but you're no worse off than > you were with the disk-based filesystem. > > Given that logic, and the fact that tmpfs is limited by the size of > swap plus the size of ram, and the observation that disk is cheap and > getting cheaper, why not make swap as big as you're ever likely to want? It also makes having an encrypted /tmp easy to set up. Since /tmp gets cleared on boot, it may as well start out empty. Set up encrypted swap and put /tmp on tmpfs. Now they're both encrypted. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Grub serial console does not work
On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 06:11:20AM -0800, jimmi wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm using since several years the serial console to get the grub menu
> from a headless PC, that I configured following the instruction of the
> Remote Serial Console HOWTO [1]. I'm now replacing the machine with a
> mini-itx assembled with an Intel D201GLY2 board [2]. Using the same
> configuration the grub menu appears ("Press any key to continue") only
> on the local monitor, while the output on the serial console starts
> working only when the kernel boots off.
>
> Any idea which test may I do to understand where the problem is?
Grub isn't finding that serial port. Perhaps the numbering has changed
at the grub level. The kernel, on the other hand, is finding the serial
port at the same /dev/ttyS?. I don't know how to get grub to search for
serial ports but I hope this points you in the right direction.
Doug.
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Re: cpulimit
On Jan 23, 2008 8:41 AM, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 12:20:48AM -0500, Manu Hack wrote: > > Is there any command like nice so that I can run a command with a cpu > > limit of at most x%? cpulimit is close to my need but it can't be > > invoked like nice, i.e., put it before the command I want to run like > > > > cpulimit -l 50 some_commands > > Short answer: no. You mean the app uses e.g. max 50% and if nothing > else is running the CPU is then 50% idle? There was a long thread on > OpenBSD (where people discuss kernel internals) that concluded that UNIX > has never had a scheduler that could do this. > > What problem are you trying to solve where you think that this is the > answer? The problem is that I'm using a laptop but somehow (I don't know exactly why) recently when I run some cpu-intensive and time consuming programs it caused the cpu too hot and an automatic shutdown is resulted. I want to keep the CPU usage low for those programs to avoid the forced shutdown. In the mean while I'm also looking for an external CPU cooler. :) Manu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cpulimit
Manu Hack wrote: On Jan 23, 2008 8:41 AM, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 12:20:48AM -0500, Manu Hack wrote: Is there any command like nice so that I can run a command with a cpu limit of at most x%? cpulimit is close to my need but it can't be invoked like nice, i.e., put it before the command I want to run like cpulimit -l 50 some_commands Short answer: no. You mean the app uses e.g. max 50% and if nothing else is running the CPU is then 50% idle? There was a long thread on OpenBSD (where people discuss kernel internals) that concluded that UNIX has never had a scheduler that could do this. What problem are you trying to solve where you think that this is the answer? The problem is that I'm using a laptop but somehow (I don't know exactly why) recently when I run some cpu-intensive and time consuming programs it caused the cpu too hot and an automatic shutdown is resulted. I want to keep the CPU usage low for those programs to avoid the forced shutdown. In the mean while I'm also looking for an external CPU cooler. :) Manu Run cpufreqscaling, powersave? -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lightning, extension for icedove, screwed up
Cassiano Bertol Leal wrote: H.S. wrote: (Fixed the typo in the subject line.) H.S. wrote: Hello, I think after the recent two upgrades (within the last week), the Lightning extension for Icedove mail client seems to be screwed up. No calendars are shown anymore, no days are shown, the extension's interface is non-responsive for the most part. This is on Debian Testing and with Icedove 2.0.0.9-3 and 0.7 version of Lightning. Anybody else have similar problems? Or know what could be wrong? thanks, ->HS Hi Try installing the package libnspr4-dev. It has fixed the problem for me. If it does not work, you can also try an 'apt-get build-dep icedove'. I have read of some people for whom this command has fixed it, although for me it wasn't necessary. Tried the libnsp4-dev, no luck. BTW, here is actual error message I get when I try to install the extension: "Lightning" could not be installed because it is not compatible with your Icedove build type (linux-gnu_x86-gcc3). Please contact the author of this item about the problem. ->HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Fwd: Re: Kernel panic with a recompiled LVM kernel.]
Original Message Subject:Re: Kernel panic with a recompiled LVM kernel. Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:21:12 +0100 From: ienabellamy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bien ! i'll use the initrd :-) thanks to all ! Il giorno mer, 23/01/2008 alle 10.01 -0500, Damon L. Chesser ha scritto: ienabellamy wrote: > Hello! > > I have compiled kernel for many years but this is a big problem: > > i've setting up a Debian 4.0 'etch' server with, for the first time, > scsi disk partitioned with LVM, so i can manage it in a better way. > > The problem is that after a right recompilation of kernel i'm getting > the classic kernel panic, like this: > > VFS: cannot open root device "" or unknown-block(0,0) > Please append a correct "root=" boot option > Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on blablabla > > I think that the kernel config is right ! > Static ( and not module ) filesystem checked, lvm support checked and > all other useful option for my hardware are checked, but WITHOUT initrd. > > May be the lack of the initrd to cause kernel panic ? > LVM must use initrd ? > > Any help would be appreciated ! > > > You guessed right! You can not run mdadm, encryption, or LVM with out an initrd. As I understand it, you can not use the tools needed to read the disk with out being able to read the disk first. The work around is to make an initrd which will contain the tools needed to read the root fs, thus allowing you to put the horse in front of the cart. I personally always make an initrd just to avoid this issue, though this is not always needed. HTH. -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cpulimit
On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 10:16:56AM -0500, Manu Hack wrote: > The problem is that I'm using a laptop but somehow (I don't know > exactly why) recently when I run some cpu-intensive and time consuming > programs it caused the cpu too hot and an automatic shutdown is > resulted. I want to keep the CPU usage low for those programs to > avoid the forced shutdown. > > In the mean while I'm also looking for an external CPU cooler. :) I've never used it but what about CPU throttling? There's some package like CPU utils. Slow down the CPU and it runs cooler. Or complain to the people that made a laptop that can't run at advertized spec. Is it clean? Is the fan working? Is it on a hard surface or a soft (insulating) one? Perhaps the debian-laptop list would have some suggestions. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slow Name Resolution - I guess
2008/1/23, Samuel Bächler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Consider I want to see www.foo.bar: I open my browser > and type www.foo.bar. > Now, my problem begins: > Iceweasel says "Looking up www.foo.bar..." > In recent days this "Looking up" process began to take quite > a lot of time (more than 15 seconds). > Now, I suppose that something is going wrong with the name > resolution on my laptop. > I also tested the "Looking-up" process at another place meaning that > I was using another cable-connection. The behavior was the > same as at home. Therefore, I conclude that something must > be wrong with the configuration of my laptop. > > What shall I check? Hello, you can make a "manual" lookup in a shell: $ nslookup www.foo.bar and see if it takes too much time. and you can check the file /etc/resolv.conf and try to add more DNS servers. For example, the ones from OpenDNS [1]: 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220 [1] http://www.opendns.com/ Best regards, Sergio Cuellar -- "Meine Hoffnung soll mich leiten Durch die Tage ohne Dich Und die Liebe soll mich tragen Wenn der Schmerz die Hoffnung bricht"
Re: vanishing spam -- a puzzle
* Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080122 21:35]: > On Jan 21, 2008 9:42 AM, Russell L. Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Is perhaps a third party intercepting my mail and discarding spam? Is > > there a way for me to investigate this possibility? > > I believe something has changed with the spamfilter on l.d.o; a good > deal of my spam was coming from lists for a few days there, and > suddenly stopped about a week ago. Perhaps that is what you are > seeing? I don't think so. The volume of spam I have been seeing until about a week ago has been relatively constant for a year or more. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing KDE4 on Sid
Found this one, apparantly on Sid rather than experimental: kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 Attempt to install brings in a slew of other stuff (which may not actually be available since this was the only thing found in a search for "KDE4" on Sid. I am NOT using udev. Too many problems reported (though live CDs using it work just fine on my system so maybe it is time ). The installation of that runtime seems to demand udev. So ... does KDE4 (or even KDE3.5.8--I have a "konstruct" KDE3.5.6 on my system which works fine without udev!) really require udev? I think not. So could this dependency be removed? (Udev dependencies seem to come about when a package wants to write udev rules--alternatives are to simply flag the non-existant folder or create it as there is nothing wrong with having the rules around even if I do not use them--I have manually created these folders a few times already when the error was flagged!) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cpulimit
On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 10:16:56AM -0500, Manu Hack wrote: > The problem is that I'm using a laptop but somehow (I don't know > exactly why) recently when I run some cpu-intensive and time consuming > programs it caused the cpu too hot and an automatic shutdown is > resulted. I want to keep the CPU usage low for those programs to > avoid the forced shutdown. > > In the mean while I'm also looking for an external CPU cooler. :) What CPU is it? lsmod | grep cpufreq An external CPU cooler is not that expensive, but not a real solution either. -- Tzafrir Cohen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's [EMAIL PROTECTED] || best ICQ# 16849754 || friend -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cpulimit
On Jan 23, 2008 10:57 AM, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 10:16:56AM -0500, Manu Hack wrote: > > > The problem is that I'm using a laptop but somehow (I don't know > > exactly why) recently when I run some cpu-intensive and time consuming > > programs it caused the cpu too hot and an automatic shutdown is > > resulted. I want to keep the CPU usage low for those programs to > > avoid the forced shutdown. > > > > In the mean while I'm also looking for an external CPU cooler. :) > > I've never used it but what about CPU throttling? There's some package > like CPU utils. Slow down the CPU and it runs cooler. Or complain to > the people that made a laptop that can't run at advertized spec. Is it > clean? Is the fan working? Is it on a hard surface or a soft > (insulating) one? The fan is working (I can tell as it's very noisy when I'm running programs) and it's on a wood table. Will look into the CPU throttling stuff later. Manu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Grub serial console does not work
On 23 Gen, 16:10, "Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > at the grub level. The kernel, on the other hand, is finding the serial > port at the same /dev/ttyS?. I don't know how to get grub to search for Yes Doug, the kernel option is still ttyS0 as before. I'll look for information on how grub serial port connection works. Thanks for your help. Jimmi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cpulimit
On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 11:33:09AM -0500, Manu Hack wrote: > On Jan 23, 2008 10:57 AM, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I've never used it but what about CPU throttling? There's some package > > like CPU utils. Slow down the CPU and it runs cooler. Or complain to > > the people that made a laptop that can't run at advertized spec. Is it > > clean? Is the fan working? Is it on a hard surface or a soft > > (insulating) one? > > The fan is working (I can tell as it's very noisy when I'm running > programs) and it's on a wood table. Will look into the CPU throttling > stuff later. Just because a fan is noisy doesn't mean its moving air. Acutally, it could mean that the bearing is shot or the fan-shaft interface is slipping. The motor may be going round full speed and the bios thinks that all is fine but the fan is moving slowly. What is the temp of the air coming out of the laptop? It should be not much above 25 C. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cpulimit
On Jan 23, 2008 11:48 AM, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 11:33:09AM -0500, Manu Hack wrote: > > On Jan 23, 2008 10:57 AM, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I've never used it but what about CPU throttling? There's some package > > > like CPU utils. Slow down the CPU and it runs cooler. Or complain to > > > the people that made a laptop that can't run at advertized spec. Is it > > > clean? Is the fan working? Is it on a hard surface or a soft > > > (insulating) one? > > > > The fan is working (I can tell as it's very noisy when I'm running > > programs) and it's on a wood table. Will look into the CPU throttling > > stuff later. > > Just because a fan is noisy doesn't mean its moving air. Acutally, it > could mean that the bearing is shot or the fan-shaft interface is > slipping. The motor may be going round full speed and the bios thinks > that all is fine but the fan is moving slowly. > > What is the temp of the air coming out of the laptop? It should be not > much above 25 C. I don't have a thermometer handy :) but the air coming out of the laptop is pretty hot sometimes. What's the implication? My fan is broken? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: telepítés
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:19:16 +0100 (CET) csoboth ambrus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > tisztelt hölgy/ur > > olyan személyel szeretném felvenni a kapcsolatot aki a telepitéstöl a > hasztnálatig tud segíteni. válaszukat előre is köszönöm. > tisztteletel:csoboth ambrus Szia. Ez egy angol nyelvű levelezőlista. A kérdésedre (és sok egyéb kapcsolódó dologra) választ kaphatsz a http://hup.hu oldalon. ++ Courtesy translation for the list: > I would like to contact a person that can help me from installation > through usage. Thank you. The preferred language is English on this list. You may get answers to your question (among other similar things) at http://hup.hu (the Hungarian Unix Portal). -- Szia: Nyizsa. -- Get a free email account with anti spam protection. http://www.bluebottle.com/tag/2
Re: cpulimit
On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 12:05:56PM -0500, Manu Hack wrote: > I don't have a thermometer handy :) but the air coming out of the > laptop is pretty hot sometimes. What's the implication? My fan is > broken? The CPU can be no cooler than the air coming out. Either bad design or malfunctioning fan. Try a meat thermometer. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/var/archive
Hi, I've just moved to Debian Etch from 10 years on Mandriva, so a bit of a newbie here. Can anyone tell me what significance /var/archives has? I have a 1.25 GB /var partition, which always used to be plenty, but archives is now eating up 1.05 GB, so I'll have to move (or preferably delete) it. Any advice, please? Cheers, Tony -- Tony van der Hoff| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Buckinghamshire, England -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unable to play mp3 files after yesterday's dist-upgrade on Lenny
This is the output of list plugins. $ xine --list-plugins=demux This is xine (X11 gui) - a free video player v0.99.6cvs. (c) 2000-2007 The xine Team. Available xine's plugins: -Demuxer: anx, image, iff, yuv4mpeg2, mpeg_pes, mpeg_block, wve, idcin, ipmovie, vqa, wc3movie, roq, str, film, smjpeg, fourxm, vmd, matroska, flashvideo, nsv, ogg, avi, fli, pva, quicktime, aud, aiff, flac, nsf, realaudio, snd, tta, voc, vox, mod, mng, real, asf, mpeg-ts, slave, mpeg, rawdv, sputext, elem, yuv_frames, wavpack. Also, an upgrade was involved regarding libxine. Here are the lines:- [UPGRADE] libxine1 1.1.8-3 -> 1.1.8-3+lenny1 [UPGRADE] libxine1-console 1.1.8-3 -> 1.1.8-3+lenny1 [UPGRADE] libxine1-doc 1.1.8-3 -> 1.1.8-3+lenny1 [UPGRADE] libxine1-ffmpeg 1.1.8-3 -> 1.1.8-3+lenny1 [UPGRADE] libxine1-gnome 1.1.8-3 -> 1.1.8-3+lenny1 [UPGRADE] libxine1-misc-plugins 1.1.8-3 -> 1.1.8-3+lenny1 [UPGRADE] libxine1-plugins 1.1.8-3 -> 1.1.8-3+lenny1 [UPGRADE] libxine1-x 1.1.8-3 -> 1.1.8-3+lenny1 Nothing about libmad0 in the log file. So, what should I do now to fix this issue? Why do I have to downgrade? Wouldn't this problem be fixed in Lenny at all? Please suggest the best possible path from here. On Jan 22, 2008 11:49 PM, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 00:24:08 +0530, Amogh Hooshdar wrote: > > till yesterday, mp3 files were running fine using totem, xine as well > > as VLC. But after a dist-upgrade, it refuses to play in these players. > > Currently I am able to play mp3 files with mplayer only. > > > > This is the error message I get when I try to play them with various > > applications. > > > > xine - xine engine error - There is no demuxer plugin available to > > handle . Usually this means that the file format was not > > recognized. > > VLC - no audio sound audible. vlc player progress bar rapidly moves > > from 0 to full and then nothing happens. > > totem - There is no plugin to handle this movie. > > > > file type of the mp3 file obtained with file command is:- > > > > file.mp3: Audio file with ID3 version 23.0 tag, MP3 encoding > > > > Please help. Is there any package that I need to install? > > As far as I know, the standard way of playing MP3s involves the xine > engine (libxine1), which in itself relies on libmad0 to decode the MP3 > stream. > > Check if the upgrade involved the libxine* or the libmad0 packages. You > can find this information in /var/log/aptitude (if you use aptitude) or > in /var/log/dpkg.log. (The aptitude log is easier to read.) If any > packages were upgraded, try to downgrade them again to the previous > version (which might still be in your /var/cache/apt/archives/ > directory). > > > I am using Debian Lenny. > > Check the output of: > > xine --list-plugins=demux > > This should tell you if xine really does not know how to play any MP3s > anymore or if it just does not recognize your particular file(s) as MP3. > > -- > Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer > Florian | > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /var/archive
On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 05:38:42PM +, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > Hi, > > I've just moved to Debian Etch from 10 years on Mandriva, so a bit of a > newbie here. > > Can anyone tell me what significance /var/archives has? I have a 1.25 GB > /var partition, which always used to be plenty, but archives is now eating > up 1.05 GB, so I'll have to move (or preferably delete) it. > > Any advice, please? I don't have anything under /var/archives, but maybe the following snippets from apt-get(1) will help: clean clean clears out the local repository of retrieved package files. It removes everything but the lock file from /var/cache/apt/archives/ and /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/. When APT is used as a dselect(8) method, clean is run automatically. Those who do not use dselect will likely want to run apt-get clean from time to time to free up disk space. autoclean Like clean, autoclean clears out the local repository of retrieved package files. The difference is that it only removes package files that can no longer be downloaded, and are largely useless. This allows a cache to be maintained over a long period without it growing out of control. The configuration option APT::Clean-Installed will prevent installed packages from being erased if it is set to off. Running apt-get clean will likely reduce the stuff cached in your /var partition. Ken -- Ken Irving, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /var/archive
On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 05:38:42PM +, Tony van der Hoff wrote: From: Tony van der Hoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: /var/archive Mail-Followup-To: debian-user@lists.debian.org X-Spam-Virus: No X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on liszt.debian.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.4 required=4.0 tests=LDOSUBSCRIBER,LDO_WHITELIST, ONEWORD,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SARE_RECV_CHAR_CARAT autolearn=failed version=3.2.3 Hi, I've just moved to Debian Etch from 10 years on Mandriva, so a bit of a newbie here. Can anyone tell me what significance /var/archives has? I have a 1.25 GB /var partition, which always used to be plenty, but archives is now eating up 1.05 GB, so I'll have to move (or preferably delete) it. /var/archives is strange that in my box I have: /var/cache/apt/archives To clean the archives after upgrade you have to do: sudo apt-get clean Nothing else ! -- Gérard
Re: lightning, extension for icedove, screwed up
H.S. wrote: > Cassiano Bertol Leal wrote: >> H.S. wrote: >>> (Fixed the typo in the subject line.) >>> >>> >>> H.S. wrote: Hello, I think after the recent two upgrades (within the last week), the Lightning extension for Icedove mail client seems to be screwed up. No calendars are shown anymore, no days are shown, the extension's interface is non-responsive for the most part. This is on Debian Testing and with Icedove 2.0.0.9-3 and 0.7 version of Lightning. Anybody else have similar problems? Or know what could be wrong? thanks, ->HS >> >> Hi >> >> Try installing the package libnspr4-dev. It has fixed the problem for me. >> >> If it does not work, you can also try an 'apt-get build-dep icedove'. I >> have read of some people for whom this command has fixed it, although >> for me it wasn't necessary. > > Tried the libnsp4-dev, no luck. > > BTW, here is actual error message I get when I try to install the > extension: > > "Lightning" could not be installed because it is not compatible with > your Icedove build type (linux-gnu_x86-gcc3). Please contact the author > of this item about the problem. > > ->HS Ok, so you're having trouble installing the plugin. This is easily fixable, but you have to mess up with the .xpi. Here's the step-by-step: 1 - download the xpi from the lightning web page (save it, but don't install it just yet) 2 - open a terminal and go to the folder where the xpi was saved. 3 - create a temp folder and enter it (mkdir lightning-tmp && cd lightning-tmp) 4 - unzip ../lightning-0.7-tb-linux.xpi (adjust to the correct file name) 5 - open install.rdf with you favorite editor 6 - find the tag 7 - change the value of this tag to linux-gnu_x86-gcc3 (e.g. 'linux-gnu_x86-gcc3') 8 - save the file and exit the editor 9 - re-zip it (zip -r ../lightning-0.7-debian.xpi) then, you can 'cd ..', 'rm -rf lightning-tmp' and install the newly created lightning-0.7-debian.xpi. Should work with the nightly builds as well. Works perfectly for me. Info taken from http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/browse_thread/thread/7805c89372f6b4f3 Cheers, Cassiano Leal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: Re: /var/archive
--- Angus Auld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 10:22:38 -0800 (PST) > From: Angus Auld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: /var/archive > To: Tony van der Hoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > --- Tony van der Hoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I've just moved to Debian Etch from 10 years on > > Mandriva, so a bit of a > > newbie here. > > > > Can anyone tell me what significance /var/archives > > has? I have a 1.25 GB > > /var partition, which always used to be plenty, > but > > archives is now eating > > up 1.05 GB, so I'll have to move (or preferably > > delete) it. > > > > Any advice, please? > > > > Cheers, Tony > > -- > > Tony van der Hoff| > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Buckinghamshire, England > You can config your package manager to delete packages after downloading and installing. I am new to Debian as well, also after many years of using Mandrake/Mandriva. Debian must be configed by default to store packages after downloading/installing. I use apt-get/synaptic, and find it to be a very easy to use and robust manager. In the preferences you can config to delete after the download/install. I am using a Debian Etch based distro called Dreamlinux, and I am thus far very impressed with the stability and power that Debian offers. Best regards. -- Angus ##Linux Laptop powered by Debian Linux## ###Reg. Linux User #278931### Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: help installing to this machine?
On Jan 23, 2008 2:48 PM, Bruno Buys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks, Joseph, > Was that the same hardware? My problem seem to be related to the > motherboard. Other people reported good results with the cpu. > I agree it's very likely to be related to the motherboard. The CPU should work fine, the architecture is very well supported. My motherboard isn't the exactly same (it was a Intel P5KSE) but it has very similar characteristics (lots of sata ports, same IDE channels) except a different chipset. My problem was with a marvell chip that handles the IDE channels that hasn't a ahci mode. I don't know if your problem is similar to mine. Are you installing from a IDE CD drive? I remember installing from USB was easy - I mean it was very similar to a CD install. The images are here: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ Cheers, Joseph
Re: /var/archive
On 23 Jan at 18:15 Gerard Robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [snip] > /var/archives is strange that in my box I have: /var/cache/apt/archives To > clean the archives after upgrade you have to do: > Yes, my mistake; it's where you say. > sudo apt-get clean > Done that - works a treat! What is the object of the archive, though? Thanks very much to all who replied. Cheers, Tony -- Tony van der Hoff| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Buckinghamshire, England -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: /var/archive
[snip] > /var/archives is strange that in my box I have: /var/cache/apt/archives To > clean the archives after upgrade you have to do: > Yes, my mistake; it's where you say. > sudo apt-get clean > Done that - works a treat! What is the object of the archive, though? Thanks very much to all who replied. Cheers, Tony Every time you do a 'apt-get upgrade', that's where those packages go. So if at some future time you have to re-install a particular package, you don't have to re-download the package. Another point, you can either use 'apt-get clean', which removes the contents of that directory, or 'apt-get autoclean' which only removes the older packages, leaving the superseded packages intact. That helps in cleaning up some disk space without removing everything. That's good if you have the room. -mike -- Tony van der Hoff| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Buckinghamshire, England -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /var/archive
Tony van der Hoff wrote: On 23 Jan at 18:15 Gerard Robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote sudo apt-get clean Done that - works a treat! What is the object of the archive, though? When you download .debs, this is the default location where they are stored for subsequent installation. Many people, once the .debs have been installed, can then delete them (as per Gerard's suggestion above), but some folks like to keep them around for various reasons (such as using the archive to then install the packages on another 19 machines in a school computer lab without having to download them another 19 times, etc). -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /var/archive
On Wednesday 23 January 2008 20:03, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > On 23 Jan at 18:15 Gerard Robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > [snip] > > > /var/archives is strange that in my box I have: /var/cache/apt/archives > > To clean the archives after upgrade you have to do: > > Yes, my mistake; it's where you say. > > > sudo apt-get clean > > Done that - works a treat! > What is the object of the archive, though? > > > Thanks very much to all who replied. > > Cheers Tony Hi Tony. I'm on dialup, and it takes some time to download updates. If you have more than one instance of Debian Etch for example, it's usefull, and also saves Internet bandwidth in being able to use the already downloaded packages to update another machine. Normally I copy the archives to a fat32 partition, and can copy them back to the next machine I want to update, without having to download them all again. I know that most of the Internet bandwidth is taken up by spam, which is a bit sick, but no reason for us to keep downloading the same package versions time after time to upgrade our various machines. As I say I'm on dialup, but I believe the same applies if you're on broadband. There's no need to join in with the spammers who abuse the Internet. Of course it's also usefull if for reason or other you remove a package, then want to re-install it. You don't have to download it again, as it's already waiting in the archives. 2¢ worth of how I do stuff. Nigel.
Re: Unable to play mp3 files after yesterday's dist-upgrade on Lenny
[ Please stop top-posting. It is very difficult for other people to follow the discussion if they have to scroll past your answers to find the questions and the context. ] On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 23:32:19 +0530, Amogh Hooshdar wrote: > This is the output of list plugins. > > $ xine --list-plugins=demux > This is xine (X11 gui) - a free video player v0.99.6cvs. > (c) 2000-2007 The xine Team. > > Available xine's plugins: >-Demuxer: > anx, image, iff, yuv4mpeg2, mpeg_pes, mpeg_block, wve, idcin, ipmovie, > vqa, wc3movie, roq, str, film, smjpeg, fourxm, vmd, matroska, flashvideo, > nsv, ogg, avi, fli, pva, quicktime, aud, aiff, flac, nsf, realaudio, snd, > tta, voc, vox, mod, mng, real, asf, mpeg-ts, slave, mpeg, rawdv, sputext, > elem, yuv_frames, wavpack. Seems like it really does not know how to demux mp3s anymore. (Version 1.1.9-1 in Sid lists "mp3"explicitly when I run the same command.) > Also, an upgrade was involved regarding libxine. Here are the lines:- > > [UPGRADE] libxine1 1.1.8-3 -> 1.1.8-3+lenny1 > [UPGRADE] libxine1-console 1.1.8-3 -> 1.1.8-3+lenny1 > [UPGRADE] libxine1-doc 1.1.8-3 -> 1.1.8-3+lenny1 > [UPGRADE] libxine1-ffmpeg 1.1.8-3 -> 1.1.8-3+lenny1 > [UPGRADE] libxine1-gnome 1.1.8-3 -> 1.1.8-3+lenny1 > [UPGRADE] libxine1-misc-plugins 1.1.8-3 -> 1.1.8-3+lenny1 > [UPGRADE] libxine1-plugins 1.1.8-3 -> 1.1.8-3+lenny1 > [UPGRADE] libxine1-x 1.1.8-3 -> 1.1.8-3+lenny1 That is a security-related upgrade; see bug #460551. > Nothing about libmad0 in the log file. I checked again and it turns out that I probably was wrong earlier: It seems that mp3s in Lenny are handled directly by xineplug_dmx_audio.so from package libxine1-misc-plugins. > So, what should I do now to fix this issue? Why do I have to > downgrade? Wouldn't this problem be fixed in Lenny at all? Please > suggest the best possible path from here. It is maybe not advisable to downgrade to the vulnerable versions of the libxine1-* packages. (When I wrote my previous mail I had not realized yet that this is a security upgrade.) Unfortunately I do not know if disabling mp3s was an integral part of fixing the security hole or just a mistake that could have been avoided. The upgraded package was not produced by the regular libxine1 maintainer. If you don't care about the security implications then you can either downgrade to the old version or upgrade to 1.1.9-1 from unstable, which seems to be equally vulnerable to the exploit. If you want to be safe then you probably have to wait for version 1.1.9-2 to become available in unstable and trickle down to testing. -- Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Where do you put your swap partition?
On Jan 23, 2008, at 1:40 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: > Rick wrote >> On my own systems, I make swap huge (10 GB or more for 1 GB RAM -- >> Disk >> is cheap!) so I can mount /tmp on a tmpfs file system. > > > > Is this for apps that say "if malloc() fails, I create a tmp file"? > IOW, you pretty much ensure that malloc() will never fail? That's one way of looking at it. It may be my old fashioned UNIX based superstitions, but I remember some benchmarks from ten years or more ago that showed putting /tmp on a tmpfs filesystem dramatically sped up things like compilers shell scripts and other programs that wrote small short-lived temporary files to communicate between passes. If you have /tmp on physical disk (e.g. an ext3 filesystem) the process of opening a file for writing, writing it, closing it, re- opening it for reading, reading it back in, closing it and deleting it, hits the disk several times, even with a large buffer cache. But if that file is in a tmpfs filesystem and you've got enough ram, the disk never gets involved. If it's in a tmpfs filesystem but you don't have enough ram, you have to swap, but you're no worse off than you were with the disk-based filesystem. Given that logic, and the fact that tmpfs is limited by the size of swap plus the size of ram, and the observation that disk is cheap and getting cheaper, why not make swap as big as you're ever likely to want? Of course, now-a-days the gcc compiler does its thing entirely in core -- swap if you must but no temporary files ever. So the benchmarks may not apply. I'm gettin' old... Rick Most things stated in this chain are true. But a couple notes. First, a swap partition is not the same as a normal partition, i.e. ext2 or ext2. That is, in Window's speak, it's not formatted. Process chunks that are swapped in and out of swap does not go through the filesystem manager. The kernel directly manages that space. It treats that disk space as a raw disk. Much faster than going through the read/writes to a normal file. You can create a swap file, but that's much slower than swap space, because it has to go through the file system. That's one of the reason MS Windows is so damn slow. In this case bigger isn't always better. I would prefer a system with multiple disks that a system with giant disk. As an example, that would allow me to have the root partition on one disk, /usr on another disk and /var on a third, and have swap space defined on all three. This is just an example, but you should be able to catch my drift. If speed is a concern using swap space, then more speed can be had if you create multiple swap spaces on different disks. That is, as an example, 2 separate swap 1 gig partitions, of the same priority, on 2 separate disks is faster than 1 2 gig partition on 1 disk. Here, the key is spindles. In the method I suggest, swap is written interleaved between the 2 swap spaces, than just serially written to a single swap space. And one other thing. Virtual memory has not always been in unix. That came quite a few years after Unix was first created in the mid '60s. It has always been noted, to speed up a unix system, add more ram. But even with the low cost of ram, it's always good practice to have swap available. It's better to have it and not need it, then to need it and not have it. It's rather difficult to manage an unresponsive system when it has exhausted memory. There isn't a Unix SA, worth his salt, that would run a system without swap space. And I'm curious, what's the reason for encrypting swap space when swap only contains code and data fragments, in no particular order, known only to the kernel? Seems to me that you are only slowing down what's already indecipherable anyway. Now keep in mind, I'm not talking about something like /tmp configured in a tmpfs. The 1 1/2 to 2 times ram for swap space is a good rule of thumb. If it's good enough for Unix, it's good practice for Linux. But then again, a home user doesn't anywhere come close to approximate the business environment. But if it works for business, it'll work in the home. -mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Changing Ethernet Drivers [Solved]
"Ron Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] Well that never would have occurred to me... Well, AFAICT that was only a fix for the underkying issue that caused him to want to switch drivers. Since that fix made the original driver work, he no longer needs to switch drivers. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where do you put your swap partition?
On 2008-01-23T15:17:29-0500, Mike Kuhar wrote: > Most things stated in this chain are true. But a couple notes. First, a > swap partition is not the same as a normal partition, i.e. ext2 or ext2. > That is, in Window's speak, it's not formatted. Process chunks that are > swapped in and out of swap does not go through the filesystem manager. The > kernel directly manages that space. It treats that disk space as a raw > disk. Much faster than going through the read/writes to a normal file. You > can create a swap file, but that's much slower than swap space, because it > has to go through the file system. These two threads do not suggest there is any significant performance difference between swap file and swap partitions: http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/6/28/427 http://groups.google.com/group/cwelug/browse_thread/thread/c7d44b3d414f7da2 /Allan signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Changing Ethernet Drivers [Solved]
"Ron Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Well that never would have occurred to me... Thats probably because that solution was related to his original problem, causing him to want to switch drivers, rather than being the reason why the driver would not switch. (At least that is what it sounds like to me) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cpufrequtils
"Damon L. Chesser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Kalessin wrote: You should stay with the ondemand governor, you will not see any difference, except on yout electricity bill (and on the environnement too). Anyway, just edit /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor and it should work. (as root : echo "performance" /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor) You may need sysfsutils to set it up at boot time : edit /etc/sysfs.conf and write : devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor = performance Best Regards. The folks over in #vmserver on freenode say that the frequency scaling messes with the timing of the vms. I can say from my tests so far, this seems to be true. With ondemand my vms seem very sluggish taking up to 30 sec just to run a single ping command on the local net (not timing out, but just to run one ping and get a response) With performance, they are merely slow. So, I think I really need to switch to userspace and manually switch to full throttle when I need to get vm work done. I can confirm that this is a problem with vm software in general. I'm not sure I've ever seen that ping problem, but I find a real problem with the virtualized kernel's clock skewing if the host's processor frequency is changed. This is because the client kernel never gets properly informed of this change, so it cannot adjust the clock system properly. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Where do you put your swap partition?
Subject: Re: Where do you put your swap partition? On 2008-01-23T15:17:29-0500, Mike Kuhar wrote: > Most things stated in this chain are true. But a couple notes. First, a > swap partition is not the same as a normal partition, i.e. ext2 or ext2. > That is, in Window's speak, it's not formatted. Process chunks that are > swapped in and out of swap does not go through the filesystem manager. The > kernel directly manages that space. It treats that disk space as a raw > disk. Much faster than going through the read/writes to a normal file. You > can create a swap file, but that's much slower than swap space, because it > has to go through the file system. These two threads do not suggest there is any significant performance difference between swap file and swap partitions: http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/6/28/427 http://groups.google.com/group/cwelug/browse_thread/thread/c7d44b3d414f7da2 -- If that's meaningful for you, than by all means use a swap file. But going through the filesystem is never the fastest way to disk. If that were the case, then Oracle would never offer the ability to use a disk in raw mode for speed. You don't have to configure this way, but it is offered for speed. But then again, a home user never taxes a system like a business system. If you are more comfortable using a swap file, then use it. -mike /Allan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
unresponsive system
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, A little while back I was trying to fix a system that was producing a continuous tone after being unused for a while, then logging in. Now it's running a wee mite slow time top -n 1 > output.txt real 67m42.116s user 0m0.008s sys 0m0.000s Yep - it took it over an hour to run top once and put the output in a file. Then it started beeping again. I had to hard reboot it (the noise was driving me batty) and guess what - output.txt is nowhere to be found! I did see the file before I rebooted - cpu was 0%us 0%ni 89%id, swap was 0k used and the first process listed was using less than 2% cpu. After the reboot it seems to run fine - the software RAID rebuilds etc etc. I can't seem to nail down what makes it start - I'm not actually using the system at present. I just set it up to do some testing and it's just sitting there idle. Any suggestions what's going on here or how to troubleshoot further? Brian -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) Comment: Verify this email or encrypt your email for free - see gnupg.org iD8DBQFHl6srGnOmb9xIQHQRAujRAJ9f2VUlfGMP7OUbz8fqSn2bii9BxQCg1TeG TG38UsibefkhPgMWUi1hbUM= =A2pV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Xen: Dom0 amd64, DomU i386... amd64-libs?
Hello list: I have a running dom0 with amd64 distro, and i created a i386 domU. I'm new to Xen, but as far is I know, this domU is a system with a 64 bits kernel and a 32 bits userspace, isn't it? I've installed libc6-xen, to avoid problems with TLS. When in a real enviroment I use a 64 bits kernel and a 32 bits userspace, I was told to install amd64-libs, so some tasks could improve using 64bits libraries. Should I do the same with the domU? Thanks in advance. -- Federico Lazcano [EMAIL PROTECTED] +54 (341) 4802 568 msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Área Tecnología Dirección General de Informática Municipalidad de Rosario http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPG http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firma_digital http://wwwkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x36B658A4F0190C0E pgpbHeZ5cv6df.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Slow Name Resolution - I guess
On Jan 23, 2008, at 6:24 AM, Samuel Bächler wrote: Hoi Everyone Consider I want to see www.foo.bar: I open my browser and type www.foo.bar. Now, my problem begins: Iceweasel says "Looking up www.foo.bar..." In recent days this "Looking up" process began to take quite a lot of time (more than 15 seconds). Make sure all the servers in /etc/resolv.conf actually work. If the first one is down, you'll have to wait for it to time out before Debian will try the second one.
Re: Where do you put your swap partition?
On Jan 22, 2008, at 8:54 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: The rule of thumb comes from UNIX days (BSD and even before that with AT&T UNIX). In order to be completely sure you would be able to swap out a program when memory became full, UNIX allocated a page of swap for every page of virtual memory a program occupied. So if vi required 256K to run, there was 256K of swap space allocated to it. The 2 to 1 ratio came from the observation that a busy UNIX time-sharing system with lots of users ran most of it's time with half the users doing something that required CPU/memory resources and the other half thinking, so you could afford to overcommit memory by a factor of two. Thanks for the interesting history lesson. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
indefinitely hold a package
Since I have been having an issue with the current xorg blowing the display on this HP dv5000 laptop, I wanted to keep the currently installed (stable) version. Is there a way that I can let aptitude update everything else without having to worry about it automatically selecting xorg packages to be upgraded as well? I am using the "hold" feature currently, but it seems that I am having to go through several steps when I open or update aptitude because I have to reapply the hold feature each time. (There is an example of the issue I am having on my website) Thanks all, Preston -- Arrant Drivel - really, it's just trash... http://www.arrantdrivel.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X & interesting problem
Dear all, I have 2 problem: Number one : /// I'm using Debian lenny repository. My desktop is gnome & my desktop manager is gdm. When i don't X server, it means i work with just console, i can switch to other consoles(with CTRL+ALT+F1...F7) But when i start gdm it means my X is up, i can't switch to other consoles. / Number two: / Somtimes my monitor is became blank. Even i run reboot command or i run init 6, It is became blank. / I think that above 2 problem is related to together. My machine is laptop IBM T20. Do you have idea? -- - Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh email address : [EMAIL PROTECTED] web site : http://pahlevanzadeh.org IRC IM : m_pahlevanzadeh yahoo IM : linuxorbsd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where do you put your swap partition?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/23/08 14:49, Mike Kuhar wrote: > > Subject: Re: Where do you put your swap partition? > > On 2008-01-23T15:17:29-0500, Mike Kuhar wrote: >> Most things stated in this chain are true. But a couple notes. First, a >> swap partition is not the same as a normal partition, i.e. ext2 or ext2. >> That is, in Window's speak, it's not formatted. Process chunks that are >> swapped in and out of swap does not go through the filesystem manager. > The >> kernel directly manages that space. It treats that disk space as a raw >> disk. Much faster than going through the read/writes to a normal file. > You >> can create a swap file, but that's much slower than swap space, because it >> has to go through the file system. > > These two threads do not suggest there is any significant performance > difference between swap file and swap partitions: > http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/6/28/427 > http://groups.google.com/group/cwelug/browse_thread/thread/c7d44b3d414f7da2 > > -- > > If that's meaningful for you, than by all means use a swap file. Denying *direct* evidence that swap file is faster? Are you sure you aren't a Young Earth Creationist? > But going > through the filesystem is never the fastest way to disk. I know this is /ipse dixit/ (appeal to authority), but when Andrew Morton says "The kernel generates a map of swap offset -> disk blocks at swapon time and from then on uses that map to perform swap I/O directly against the underlying disk queue, bypassing all caching, metadata and filesystem code.", I believe him. > If that were the > case, then Oracle would never offer the ability to use a disk in raw mode > for speed. Oracle must support a *wide* variety of OSs, and has had to do so for many years. >You don't have to configure this way, but it is offered for > speed. But then again, a home user never taxes a system like a business > system. If you are more comfortable using a swap file, then use it. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA "I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals, I'm a vegetarian because I hate vegetables!" unknown -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHl758S9HxQb37XmcRAuA8AJ9GdsTfIqdWpEDupV4cZ5uHccH2TQCaApOk X6QOcSqLRCuVZ1/+qLEgwLk= =pp8q -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
using apt-zip
Hello! I am using apt-zip to upgrade my old laptop from Etch testing (when I installed on tjis laptop Debian Etch, then Etch was in testing state) to Etch stable. I red the tutorial http://linuxbasics.org/tutorials/using/apt-zip and man apt-zip. I did the following steps: sudo aptitude update mount /media/usb0 apt-zip-list -m /media/usb0 -a dist-upgrade mount /media/usb0 try to run in the usb0/ ./fetch-script-wget-debian-asztal but get error message: bash: ./fetch-script-wget-debian-asztal: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied How can I solve this problem? Any advices will be appreciated! -- Regards, Paul Csanyi http://www.freewebs.com/csanyi-pal/index.htm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
understanding ulimit -r -m -v
Hello,
I'm having a hard time trying to understand what the following limits
actually do:
-maximum size of a process's data segment
-the maximum resident set size - rss
-the maximum amount of virtual memory
I googled for quite a while an did not find much. Thats what I figured
so far:
-the maximum resident set size limits the amount of pages of a single
process that may be loaded into physical RAM at one time. "How much RAM
a single process may take". Anyway the process may take as much swap as
it likes.
Under linux processes may be granted more than rss size pages in RAM.
The limit only controls which processes will be swapping earlier.
-Although I know the difference between code and data, heap and stack
I have no clue what the maximum size of a process's data segment does.
-Does the maximum amount of virtual memory actually limit the size of
the virtual address space? As far as I figured from experiments it does
not only affect how much memory a process may use (physical RAM +
swap), but it actually constrains the virtual address space of a
process. The kernel still overcommits as much memory as you request
when this limit is in effect. I set it to 100 meg. A test process could
allocate 4gigs of memory, but only access the first 100meg. It could
not dereference pointers to any address higher then the 100meg limit.
My conclusion would be that the rss limit is only usable to fine-tune
the swapping behavior of special processes. Only the maximum amount of
virtual memory (virtual address space?) is suitable for limiting the
memory usage of processes.
My actuall problem is that there are many applications that leak memory
or at least use way too much memory when supplied with wrong input
(ever tried opening a html with >300 big images in iceweasel? dillo
copes well with it.)
This leads to extensive swapping due to one bad process and effectively
locks up the machine. Therefore I'd like to limit the total amount of
memory a single process may use (physical + swap space).
I find the virtual memory constrain too hard. I still like huge address
spaces and being able to realloc is nice.
Completely turning off swap is not possible since this is a multiuser
system and there are many sleeping processes lying around.
I'll attach my testing program, in case someone would like to play
around with ulimit.
Any hints, pointers to documentation or better ideas to solve this
problem would be appreciated.
regards,
Christopher Zimmermann
#include
#include
#include
#include
int main () {
char *mem[4096];
fputs("mallocating 4 gigs...\n", stderr);
for(int i=0; i<4096; i++) {
if(i%32 == 0)
fprintf(stderr, "mallocated %d megs\n", i);
mem[i] = malloc(1<<20);
}
fputs("mallocated 4 gigs\n", stderr);
sleep(1);
fputs("accessing start of allocated memory\n", stderr);
*mem[0] = *mem[0];
fputs("accessing end of allocated memory\n", stderr);
*mem[4095] = *mem[4095];
fputs("initializing 4 gigs...\n", stderr);
for(int i=0; i<4096; i++) {
if(i%32 == 0)
fprintf(stderr, "initialized %d megs\n", i);
memset(mem[i], 0, 1<<20);
putc('.', stderr);
}
return 0;
}
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Re: /var/archive
[snip] > > Of course it's also usefull if for reason or other you remove a package, > then want to re-install it. You don't have to download it again, as it's > already waiting in the archives. > Thanks everyone; you'e a really helpful bunch here, and I'm learning a lot. I like this distro :) Cheers, Tony. -- Tony van der Hoff| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Buckinghamshire, England -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cpulimit
Quoth Manu Hack: > The fan is working (I can tell as it's very noisy when I'm running > programs) and it's on a wood table. Will look into the CPU throttling > stuff later. Throttling the CPU would have the same effect as your idea of throttling programs not to use all available CPU cycles - except that you would have the added benefit of longer battery life due to reduced power consumption of the CPU. All modern laptop CPUs support some sort of scaling. You don't even need additional software under linux, because the functionality is right there in the kernel. Try lsmod | grep powersave If it's not modprobed, add cpufreq-powersave to /etc/modules, modprobe the module (or reboot...) and then as root do echo "powersave" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor And maybe put that line in some initscript so you'll end up with a throttled CPU no matter what happens. Aleks signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Using aliases or functions in bash script
Hi,
A (adv) bash alias expansion question --
How can I use my aliases or functions in my bash script?
I have the following alias and function defined in my ~/.bashrc:
$ alias rd
alias rd='rmdir'
$ type dt
dt is a function
dt ()
{
pushd +$1
}
How can I use them in my script?
Looking through the man pages, I think the following content is related
to my question:
Aliases are not expanded when the shell is not interactive, unless the
expand_aliases shell option is set using shopt.
[-+]O [shopt_option]
shopt_option is one of the shell options accepted by the
shopt builtin (see SHELL BUILTIN COMMANDS below).If
shopt_option is present, -O sets the value of that option; +O
unsets it. If shopt_option is not supplied, the names and
values of the shell options accepted by shopt are printed on
the standard output. If the invocation option is +O, the
output is displayed in a format that may be reused as input.
expand_aliases
If set, aliases are expanded as described above under
ALIASES. This option is enabled by default for interac-
tive shells.
And this is what I've tried:
$ bash -c 'shopt -s expand_aliases; alias rd'
bash: line 0: alias: rd: not found
$ bash -O expand_aliases -c 'rd /tmp/ttt; alias rd; dt bin; type dt'
bash: rd: command not found
bash: line 0: alias: rd: not found
bash: dt: command not found
bash: line 0: type: dt: not found
Looking for the answer myself, I found a similar symptom has been reported
as bug 148505: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=148505
And it is reported as being fixed.
Am I hitting a new bug or I'm doing something wrong? Please comment,
otherwise I'm going to file a bug report.
Thanks
PS. I even tried the following but it didn't work either:
$ bash -O expand_aliases -c '. ~/.bashrc; (rd /tmp/ttt; alias rd; dt bin;
type dt)'
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Alsa and ens1370 card help
The system is debian based with alsa-base and alsa-oss packages installed. On trying to configure ALSA as: # alsaconf I see the error message: Setting default volumes... amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such device How do I fix it? -ishwar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using aliases or functions in bash script
On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 11:10:13PM +, T o n g wrote:
> Hi,
>
> A (adv) bash alias expansion question --
> How can I use my aliases or functions in my bash script?
>
> I have the following alias and function defined in my ~/.bashrc:
>
> $ alias rd
> alias rd='rmdir'
>
> $ type dt
> dt is a function
> dt ()
> {
> pushd +$1
> }
>
> How can I use them in my script?
>
> Looking through the man pages, I think the following content is related
> to my question:
>
>Aliases are not expanded when the shell is not interactive, unless the
>expand_aliases shell option is set using shopt.
So just use functions. They are really handier. Here's a function that
replaces an alias:
my_alias() {
some command "$@"
}
Then you can freely use:
my_alias whatever extra parameters
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Re: Alsa and ens1370 card help
On Thursday 24 January 2008 00:13, ISHWAR RATTAN wrote: > The system is debian based with alsa-base and alsa-oss > packages installed. > > On trying to configure ALSA as: > > # alsaconf > > I see the error message: > Setting default volumes... > amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such device > > How do I fix it? > > -ishwar Hi Ishwar. Is it a PCI, or an older ISA card. lspci should show if it's a PCI one. I have an Ensoniq PCI card (ens1371) that works fine. Could you post also the output of: cat /proc/asound/cards Which Debian based OS is this? Do you have anything audio based plugged into the USB? Webcam, Usb midi keyboard, etc. Sometimes USB stuff can mess about with the ordering of the soundcards, resulting ion the USB device being set as card0, and your actual soundcard as card1, which results in no sounds. All the best. Nigel. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing KDE4 on Sid
On Jan 23, 2008 7:58 AM, David Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Found this one, apparantly on Sid rather than experimental: > kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 > > Attempt to install brings in a slew of other stuff (which may not actually be > available since this was the only thing found in a search for "KDE4" on Sid. > > I am NOT using udev. Too many problems reported (though live CDs using it work > just fine on my system so maybe it is time ). Udev has always worked fine for me... > The installation of that > runtime seems to demand udev. So ... does KDE4 (or even KDE3.5.8--I have a > "konstruct" KDE3.5.6 on my system which works fine without udev!) really > require udev? I think not. So could this dependency be removed? I don't see that kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 requires udev. All I see is a recommends for hal, which requires udev. However, I suspect Solid will not work correctly in all cases without hal, and thus udev. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: etch --> testing
On 22/01/2008, charlie derr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > An associate is not quite as avid a linux user as I am (though he's been at > it at least as long). He's got a machine that's > running etch that he uses as a general all-purpose workstation desktop > (gnome, icedove, iceweasel, ooo, emacs, cups, and a bunch > more often-used apps). He's really eager to upgrade from etch to something > newer. So I thought I'd ask here about any possible > pitfalls, or suggestions of how best to get him to a semi-stable bunch of > packages from testing/lenny. For that matter is there > any information about when a lenny freeze might happen? (so that I can help > him time a in switch his /etc/apt/sources.list back > from testing to lenny so that he can avoid shooting himself in the foot later) > > Anyhow, if I were going to do this without anyone else's input (go from etch > to testing), here's the way I'd attempt it on my own > machine: > > aptitude update; aptitude upgrade // to make sure etch is current > change /etc/apt/sources.list by applying s/etch/testing/ > aptitude update > aptitude install aptitude > aptitude install apt-listbugs > aptitude safe-upgrade (if that's available in the aptitude in testing > right now) > > > thanks much in advance for any suggestions, > ~c > Would http://www.backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php help? You'd get the benefit of a mostly stable installation but be able to get later versions of some software from there. Instructions at http://www.backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions Regards L. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Getting started with Xen -- Xen enabled kernel for Lenny?
I'm trying to get started with Xen. I've installed Lenny and a bunch of packages that looked interesting and mentioned Xen in their descriptions. But there does not seem to be a Xen enabled kernel available. Is Xen built-in to the Lenny kernels, or what? I plan to spend tonite with my feet up in the easy chair reading the documents in /usr/share/doc/Xen-docs-3.1/ . I hope they will be helpful, but they don't seem to mention Debian specifically. I've googled every which way, but everything I find is for Etch or Sarge and expects me to have a Xen enabled kernel. More generally, is there a HOWTO or FAQ that would give me some pointers to getting Xen up and running? Thanks! Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where do you put your swap partition?
On Jan 23, 2008, at 4:27 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: On Jan 22, 2008, at 8:54 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: The rule of thumb comes from UNIX days (BSD and even before that with AT&T UNIX). In order to be completely sure you would be able to swap out a program when memory became full, UNIX allocated a page of swap for every page of virtual memory a program occupied. So if vi required 256K to run, there was 256K of swap space allocated to it. The 2 to 1 ratio came from the observation that a busy UNIX time-sharing system with lots of users ran most of it's time with half the users doing something that required CPU/ memory resources and the other half thinking, so you could afford to overcommit memory by a factor of two. Thanks for the interesting history lesson. :) You're welcome. It had the interesting side-effect that people developed the habit, after they were done thinking and wanted to start working on the computer again, of hitting the key to "wake up the computer" (really, to initiate a bunch of swap-in operations) then wait several seconds for the cursor to actually return and the command prompt to re-appear. The swapping algorithms knew about this behavior and optimized for it. When a process group had been idle long enough to indicate the start of a "think" cycle, the whole process group was swapped out at once. When the user started up again, the whole process group was swapped in -- assuming that the user would be needing it soon. I'm really gettin' old! Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Getting logrotate to rename to YYYY-MM-DD
I'm trying to make a Debian system rotate its logfiles so that each previous day's logs have -MM-DD appended to the name (just before compression) and they then keep the same name until deleted. As opposed to the standard Debian method, where logs get a single number appended, which is then changed every day for every log file. It looks as though the logrotate and savelog mechanisms in Debian have their own very entrenched ideas about what names to give to rotated log files, and any attempt to change them will make the whole log rotation system break. I'm ideally looking for a nice simple user-configurable setting that enables -MM-DD log files, but am of course willing to do a bit more work than that if required. I have checked the list archives, but found nothing that helps me. Am I missing something really obvious? Surely with this being a standard log rotation naming scheme on SuSE for so many years, someone else would have needed this in Debian by now? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting started with Xen -- Xen enabled kernel for Lenny?
Rick Thomas wrote: I'm trying to get started with Xen. Thanks! Rick I don't know if you've been here: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_xen3_debian, but, I too am trying to build a XEN enabled kernel using linux 2.6.23.9. This link looked straightforward and possible. I have not gotten to the point of patching the kernel for XEN. I was also trying to add current support for NFSv4 and GRSecurity so it's a bit jumbled right now (a lot of rejects). Building for a Pentium 4 3.2 GHz. Dell system. A search of debian-kernel did not return anything useful IMHO. Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where do you put your swap partition?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/23/08 18:37, Rick Thomas wrote: > > On Jan 23, 2008, at 4:27 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: > >> >> On Jan 22, 2008, at 8:54 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: >> >>> The rule of thumb comes from UNIX days (BSD and even before that with >>> AT&T UNIX). In order to be completely sure you would be able to swap >>> out a program when memory became full, UNIX allocated a page of swap >>> for every page of virtual memory a program occupied. So if vi >>> required 256K to run, there was 256K of swap space allocated to it. >>> The 2 to 1 ratio came from the observation that a busy UNIX >>> time-sharing system with lots of users ran most of it's time with >>> half the users doing something that required CPU/memory resources and >>> the other half thinking, so you could afford to overcommit memory by >>> a factor of two. >> >> Thanks for the interesting history lesson. :) > > You're welcome. It had the interesting side-effect that people > developed the habit, after they were done thinking and wanted to start > working on the computer again, of hitting the key to "wake up > the computer" (really, to initiate a bunch of swap-in operations) then > wait several seconds for the cursor to actually return and the command > prompt to re-appear. The swapping algorithms knew about this behavior > and optimized for it. When a process group had been idle long enough to > indicate the start of a "think" cycle, the whole process group was > swapped out at once. When the user started up again, the whole process > group was swapped in -- assuming that the user would be needing it soon. > > I'm really gettin' old! Have you yet bitched and complained how kids today have it so much easier, and don't appreciate what they have? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA "I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals, I'm a vegetarian because I hate vegetables!" unknown -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHl+c+S9HxQb37XmcRAvYKAJ9yvyrbU9IxaJuPiW6kkvGAh/7eMACghnCU cZkvN80s31On0EtjWDGPhzc= =Bu8d -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
getting started with spamassasin
Hi. I'd like to get spamassasin going on my desktop (testing/lenny). Mail enters this box via fetchmail which was configured to poll an imap server. Exim delivers it to the users. The procmail package is installed. Configuration of fetchmail was done by fetchmailconf, no special exim tricks. So, the mail system is pretty much Debian default. Still, I am a bit confused by the official spamassasin docs. There are just too many ways to do things. What is the easiest way to activate spamassasin on my box? ---<(kaimartin)>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak http://lilalaser.de/blog -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: etch --> testing
> I thought that at one point (in the past, when I was > paying a little more attention) that a certain > ubuntu release might be better > installed as a clean reinstall (rather than trying > to upgrade from a previous release). Hearing that > (or thinking I heard that), > I simply extrapolated the more conservative answer > that I'd probably always be safer reinstalling. But > maybe that was a one time > thing (or maybe it was only true just prior to a > final release?) or maybe it was never true and I'm > making this up (because I'm > incapable of remembering any more details). > from what i remember it was from dapper (6.06 to 6.10) that had the problem (never got that one to work right) the new upgrades work fine (7.04-7.10-8.04) > But if folks think that I've got a shot at going > from Dapper to a current ubuntu release on his > laptop, I'll definitely give that > a shot -- nice to know that's an option. As for > the rest of it, I gave him the instructions I'd > initially pasted and as far as I > know he's either upgrading his debian stable desktop > to testing or breaking it badly. I'm keeping my > fingers crossed that it's > the former. > if you are going to be his only help, better to go with what you know best jwlockhart Registered Linux User #458799 Registered Kubuntu User #19678 this user is penguin powered Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where do you put your swap partition?
On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 07:17:50PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > I'm really gettin' old! > > Have you yet bitched and complained how kids today have it so much > easier, and don't appreciate what they have? I'm getting a new-to-me dot-matrix printer (Epson LQ-2080) delivered tomorrow. Next week I expect a VT-520. I wonder how many VT-520s a modern computer could support? When people had terminals instead of computers on their desks, how big was a computer with 2 GB ram and 500 GB hard drive space and the power of a modern CPU (e.g. Athlon64)? Then again, I tried to find an off-the-shelf good quality simple PS/2 keyboard today with no luck. I want quality but without the noise of an IBM model M. Times change. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting logrotate to rename to YYYY-MM-DD
On Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 01:51:28AM +0100, Debian Luser wrote: > I'm trying to make a Debian system rotate its logfiles so that each > previous day's logs have -MM-DD appended to the name (just before > compression) and they then keep the same name until deleted. > As opposed to the standard Debian method, where logs get a single > number appended, which is then changed every day for every log file. > Use your language-of-choice (e.g. python would be fine, Ada would be overkill) and do it. Probably quite simple. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slow Name Resolution - I guess
On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 01:23:07PM -0800, David Brodbeck wrote: > > On Jan 23, 2008, at 6:24 AM, Samuel Bächler wrote: > >> Hoi Everyone >> >> Consider I want to see www.foo.bar: I open my browser >> and type www.foo.bar. >> Now, my problem begins: >> Iceweasel says "Looking up www.foo.bar..." >> In recent days this "Looking up" process began to take quite >> a lot of time (more than 15 seconds). > > Make sure all the servers in /etc/resolv.conf actually work. If the > first one is down, you'll have to wait for it to time out before Debian > will try the second one. Also, unlike Windows/IE, browsers for Linux do not provide DNS caching. I use 'dnsmasq' to provide this facility under debian for my home LAN. There are others, and yes, caching makes a big difference in the responsiveness. -- Joel Roth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where do you put your swap partition?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/23/08 19:44, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 07:17:50PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >>> I'm really gettin' old! >> Have you yet bitched and complained how kids today have it so much >> easier, and don't appreciate what they have? > > I'm getting a new-to-me dot-matrix printer (Epson LQ-2080) delivered > tomorrow. Next week I expect a VT-520. I wonder how many VT-520s a > modern computer could support? Directly attached via a serial multi-port card, or via an Ethernet terminal server? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_server http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DECserver > When people had terminals instead of > computers on their desks, how big was a computer with 2 GB ram and 500 > GB hard drive space and the power of a modern CPU (e.g. Athlon64)? The last time I had an actual real-live VT220 on my desk was 1991. Connected via LAT to a DECserver and then a VAXcluster, consisting of a VAX 8600 & VAX 8800, each with 64MB RAM. Don't remember the disk space, because the database was in a ShareBase/Britton-Lee machine. Each was at least a full rack. 2GB RAM would have used a simply enormous number of DIP RAM chips. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_Area_Transport > Then again, I tried to find an off-the-shelf good quality simple PS/2 > keyboard today with no luck. I want quality but without the noise of an > IBM model M. > > Times change. And we old-timers get to complain about wasteful, unappreciative youth... - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA "I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals, I'm a vegetarian because I hate vegetables!" unknown -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHl/NiS9HxQb37XmcRAnzyAJ9mz7BmuX1fEKgDSVglFTEboBAR1wCfdOUB kiSCzzFpDYoC6Cp8avPBKqE= =MhYA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /var/archive
only thing that i have ever had in /var/archives are the md5sum's and tarballs for backups created by backup manager (needless to say i have since sent backup manager to /dev/null) jwlockhart Registered Linux User #458799 Registered Kubuntu User #19678 this user is penguin powered Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /var/archive
On Jan 23, 2008 9:38 AM, Tony van der Hoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I've just moved to Debian Etch from 10 years on Mandriva, so a bit of a > newbie here. > > Can anyone tell me what significance /var/archives has? I have a 1.25 GB > /var partition, which always used to be plenty, but archives is now eating > up 1.05 GB, so I'll have to move (or preferably delete) it. Don't do that! > Any advice, please? The biggest space-waster in the /var/archive tree is apt. Your best bet is apt-get autoclean, though if that doesn't free up enough space, apt-get clean should. -- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where do you put your swap partition?
On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 08:09:39PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 01/23/08 19:44, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 07:17:50PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> Have you yet bitched and complained how kids today have it so much > >> easier, and don't appreciate what they have? > > > > tomorrow. Next week I expect a VT-520. I wonder how many VT-520s a > > modern computer could support? > > Directly attached via a serial multi-port card, or via an Ethernet > terminal server? May as well let the fancy new computer do the interrupt stuff. Direct attach. > > Times change. > > And we old-timers get to complain about wasteful, unappreciative > youth... Heh, I get to complain that I can't install (and it runs too slowly anyway) Etch on my 486 with 32 MB ram. At least there's OBSD. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where do you put your swap partition?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/23/08 20:28, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 08:09:39PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 01/23/08 19:44, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: >>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 07:17:50PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: Have you yet bitched and complained how kids today have it so much easier, and don't appreciate what they have? >>> tomorrow. Next week I expect a VT-520. I wonder how many VT-520s a >>> modern computer could support? >> Directly attached via a serial multi-port card, or via an Ethernet >> terminal server? > > May as well let the fancy new computer do the interrupt stuff. Direct > attach. Why burden the host with "edge stuff" which distracts the main system from the heavy lifting (database processing, etc)? Taking your theory to the extreme, we might as well let the fancy new computer also be the firewall and router, too. This pushing of menial work as far out to the edge as possible is why seemingly low-powered mainframes can support so many users and have such excellent response time. >>> Times change. >> And we old-timers get to complain about wasteful, unappreciative >> youth... > > Heh, I get to complain that I can't install (and it runs too slowly > anyway) Etch on my 486 with 32 MB ram. At least there's OBSD. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA "I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals, I'm a vegetarian because I hate vegetables!" unknown -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHmACYS9HxQb37XmcRAjYpAJ9yel2z+yB3JnE17XqKtjwOeLQBnQCfWOqz ef1h1LbEzPmDgc4g2CYH2qw= =DbVD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using aliases or functions in bash script
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 23:21:37 +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
>> I have the following alias and function defined in my ~/.bashrc:
>>
>> $ alias rd
>> alias rd='rmdir'
>>
>> $ type dt
>> dt is a function
>> dt ()
>> {
>> pushd +$1
>> }
>>
>> How can I use them in my script? . . .
>
> So just use functions. . .
I'm wondering if you have read my OP or not. Read it again pls.
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Re: Using aliases or functions in bash script
On Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 03:55:51AM +, T o n g wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 23:21:37 +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
>
> >> I have the following alias and function defined in my ~/.bashrc:
> >>
> >> $ alias rd
> >> alias rd='rmdir'
> >>
> >> $ type dt
> >> dt is a function
> >> dt ()
> >> {
> >> pushd +$1
> >> }
> >>
> >> How can I use them in my script? . . .
> >
> > So just use functions. . .
>
> I'm wondering if you have read my OP or not. Read it again pls.
source ~/.bashrc
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Re: lightning, extension for icedove, screwed up
H.S. schrieb: > > "Lightning" could not be installed because it is not compatible with > your Icedove build type (linux-gnu_x86-gcc3). Please contact the author > of this item about the problem. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=459340 -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
dpkg crawling!
I am not sure exactly when this behaviour manifested but it was within the past 2 months or so. Now whenever I install something the dpkg package database will eat up like 90%-100% of my CPU and the machine is near frozen until it completes. Even installing a small single package this will happen, when I install a lot of packages like in a recent dist-upgrade worth 70MB my machine was in basically unusable state for over 20 minutes until it finished! 0 upgraded, 44 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 906kB/73.4MB of archives. After unpacking 185MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y Get:1 http://debian.mirrors.pair.com testing/main mesademos 6.2.1-1 [807kB] Get:2 http://debian.mirrors.pair.com testing/main stx2any 1.56-2 [98.8kB] Fetched 556kB in 2m23s (3862B/s) Extracting templates from packages: 100% Preconfiguring packages ... [At this point the trouble began and my CPU jumped way up for about 3 minutes.] Selecting previously deselected package mysql-client-5.0. (Reading database ... 310013 files and directories currently installed.) [This is where things got really bad and I was over 90% CPU util for the next 17 minutes!] Any clue what is causing such poor performance and how I can fix it? I run Debian lenny with 2.6.18 kernel. CPU is P3 700MHz with 256MB RAM. Zach -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting started with Xen -- Xen enabled kernel for Lenny?
Rick My response at very bottom. Ted Rick Thomas wrote: I'm trying to get started with Xen. I've installed Lenny and a bunch of packages that looked interesting and mentioned Xen in their descriptions. But there does not seem to be a Xen enabled kernel available. Is Xen built-in to the Lenny kernels, or what? I plan to spend tonite with my feet up in the easy chair reading the documents in /usr/share/doc/Xen-docs-3.1/ . I hope they will be helpful, but they don't seem to mention Debian specifically. I've googled every which way, but everything I find is for Etch or Sarge and expects me to have a Xen enabled kernel. More generally, is there a HOWTO or FAQ that would give me some pointers to getting Xen up and running? Thanks! Rick Hi Rick Sorry for any typos. There is a problem for newer Debian kernels (as in the etch distribution) and Xen. They just don't work and there is currently no patch to save the day. Ubuntu has Xen based recent kernels which apparently work well but I have not yet tried them. The Xen web site has 3 Xen options one of which I think is still free. Either one of these 3 options can be installed providing a DOM 0 basic virtualizing machine. Also, some of the other Linux distributions like SuSE have Xen based kernels. Xen based kernels are regular kernels but have the Xen application compiled into them making them the basis for hardware virtualization and thus called DOM 0 meaning the virtualization machine that redirects system calls from DOM U distributions. A DOM U distribution is virtualized meaning that during the time slice for a particular DOM U distribution it's system calls get re-routed to the DOM 0 computer resources (mostly hardware including CPU, memory, drives, LAN interface, etc.). DOM U distributions each have their own partition and are activated by the DOM 0 Xen application as a virtual machine.. There can be as many as 64 partitions in total including the partition for DOM 0. Most designers prefer to have the DOM 0 Xen system as a minimal distribution. The DOM 0 distribution can create virtual machines from it's own distribution so that you might have several virtual machines each doing one important thing instead of the conventional way where all these things get done on the one distribution. Of course, you can run other Linux distributions as DOM U installations. This is what makes Xen most efficient. Your fastest, safest, and best solution right now would be to get one of the 3 optional systems offered by the Xen developers. Apparently, they have a blog and I know they have a list. I have a download of the free Xen package on a CD which is now a year old and which I will be installing on a computer. I will install a large Debian distribution as well as smaller Debian distributions each in their own partition and use them as virtual machines. DOM 0 will be the free Xen package which took me a week to download and now I am trying to find it. The Xen documentation describes how the DOM 0 machine is made aware of the DOM U partitions with their respective distributions. BTW, you can now take a Windowz distribution like XP or more recent and run it as a DOM U virtual machine.That's neat if you have applications like I have that can only run on Windowz. But you have to buy a license from MS. Hope this information gets you going. There is one fellow on the debian-user list that has had a Linux Xen system running for about 2 years or more but that system would be running on an older kernel and he would have compiled the Xen application into the kernel and I think he used the AMD CPU. A number of people have tried to update their older Debian kernel with patches which automatically makes their system non operational. I think Debian really missed the importance of Xen and to get a Debian DOM 0 system from the etch distribution was not possible. Apparently there is a new distribution by what I hear on the list chatter. That distribution I am not aware of other than it is Debian 4.x distribution. Hopefully, if that is the case there may now be kernels available with the Xen application installed. Have a nice day and if you get Xen up and running please be kind enough to let the list know about your configuration and other issues as there have been many over the last few years that have wanted help and advice. I reiterate, your best chance of success is to run out of the Xen box as provided by the Xen developers. Thanks -- Ted -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
