date:20020228

Hi everyone, 
  I've been trying to compile a custom kernel to use the Linux Progress Patch 
Gordon Fraser was nice to provide me with, and also to optimize the kernel 
for my Pentium II processor. 

  However, I seem to have a kernel that refuses to boot. Once it starts the 
frame buffer, it simple quits doing anything (this is the case with or 
without the Linux Progress Patch.

  Here is what it says in the /var/log/messages file:

---
Feb 27 21:50:56 dellbert kernel: Kernel logging (proc) stopped.
Feb 27 21:50:56 dellbert kernel: Kernel log daemon terminating.
Feb 27 21:50:56 dellbert exiting on signal 15
---

  Oh, the /var/log/lastlog file says:

---
??}http://www.uninetsolutions.com/tbutler/linux/LinuxConfiguration.txt . I've 
been building it with this command:

  fakeroot make-kpkg --bzimage binary-arch modules_image --initrd 
--revision=1trb --config xconfig

  Any ideas what the problem might be?

  TIA,
Tim

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Re: kde on sid won't install

2002-02-28 Thread David Wright


the thing that is holding you up is that the current kde packages

> depend on libglib1.3-12 which is no longer in the debian archives

Wow! This is a major bug! Thanks for the tip; I found the relevant bug 
reports under the libkmid package. The fix has been "pending" for 20 
days now; let's hope it gets into unstable soon!

Re: 2.2r5 Install Endless Loop

2002-02-28 Thread Keith Parkansky

debianlist wrote:
> 
> HI:
> I have the same problem as you have! Did you solve the endless loop when
> config X-windows?
> If you do,Can you give me the method to deal with it?
> Thanks

No.  Only got one response and it didn't
help.  I'll probably just go back to Red Hat.
I think the Debian install routine is hosed up
somewhere.

Re: Installing kernel-image-2.4.17-k7

2002-02-28 Thread Manoj Srivastava

>>"Stan" == Stan Kaufman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 Stan> Should be enough; the package maintainer's scripts clearly said
 Stan> "Don't go any further until you've fixed your bootloader". It
 Stan> would have been more helpful if there had been more explicit
 Stan> info about how to do so, but that's what the archives of this
 Stan> list are for!

Any suggestions for improved wording? This is what is there now:
==
You are attempting to install an initrd kernel image (version $version)
This will not work unless you have configured your boot loader to use
initrd.
==

People running lilo also get this message:
==
As a reminder, in order to configure lilo, you need to
add an 'initrd=/initrd.img' in your /etc/lilo.conf
==

Everyone gets this:
==
I repeat, You need to configure your boot loader. If you have already done
so, and you wish to get rid of this message, please put
  `do_initrd = Yes'
in /etc/kernel-img.conf.
==

Some lilo users, who have this line in lilo.conf, get warned:
==
In addition, the line
"ramdisk = 0"
should be removed or commented.
==


 (non lilo users do not get the lilo specific message, of course).

manoj
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Fresh install no network

I had hoped the install routine would find my nic and know what to
load but as I went thru the initial install, it wasn't found.  Any
attempt to select something from the module list for net, failed.

I'm not real sure what card is in there but its one of the commaon
3com cards.  I had hoped some kind of probe would find it and I
wouldn't have to tear things up to find my original box etc. or open
the case to get it.  This case is in a inconvenient spot.

I'm at the stage now where the initial system is intalled and I've
rebooted ... setting at the config screen for basic stuff.

What is the best way, with least hair pulling to get the nic setup?
I'll check dmesg once bootup is complete.

Oh and I lied a bit about being at the config screen, I will be
shortly but I choose to make a floppy and boot that way since I have
solaris installed on First Master disk, and wasn't sure I wouldn't
scrub its boot loader or something by tinkering with lilo.

I'll get to that later, but I notice the boot floppy takes an awfull
long time, like 4-7 minutes.  Seems an awkful lot even for a floppy boot.
Would that be an indication of some kind of trouble?

Eventhough I've installed several flavors of linux and 2 bsds, as well
as a couple of regular unix's, I could use a little hand holding thru
the rest of the install.  Especially getting network enabled.

I can dig up the exact info on my hardware but it will be some serious
digging and I'd sooner avoid spending the time on that.

The machine is an Athlon Tbird 1.3 ghz and a common 3com nic.

Re: 2.2r5 Install Endless Loop

2002-02-28 Thread David H. Askew

hehe..redhat...thats funny

..but I guess..linux..is linux

..go with what you know...be realize there is lots to learn...

On Thu, 2002-02-28 at 06:25, Keith Parkansky wrote:
> debianlist wrote:
> > 
> > HI:
> > I have the same problem as you have! Did you solve the endless loop when
> > config X-windows?
> > If you do,Can you give me the method to deal with it?
> > Thanks
> 
> 
> No.  Only got one response and it didn't
> help.  I'll probably just go back to Red Hat.
> I think the Debian install routine is hosed up
> somewhere.
> 
> 
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PPPoE connection problems with Debian Woody

2002-02-28 Thread Rajesh Saxena


Greetings, I'm having severe connection problems using my ADSL modem.
I am using the following packages.. ppp_2.4.1.uus-1_arm.deb and
pppoe_3.3-1_arm.deb and I am running the 2.4.16-rmk1 kernel.

Whenever I issue the command 'pon dsl-provider' I get the following
errors in /var/log/syslog ..

pppd[431]: pppd 2.4.1 started by root, uid 0
pppd[431]: Serial connection established.
pppd[431]: using channel 15
pppd[431]: Using interface ppp0
pppd[431]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/pts/0
pppd[431]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1  
 ]
pppd[431]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1  
 ]
last message repeated 5 times
pppd[431]: Terminating on signal 15.
pppd[431]: sent [LCP TermReq id=0x2 "User request"]
pppoe[432]: Received signal 15.
pppd[431]: Script pppoe -I eth0 -T 80 -m 1452 finished (pid 432),
status = 0x0
pppd[431]: Modem hangup
pppd[431]: Connection terminated
pppd[431]: Exit

And sometimes it says this (including the errors above)..
"LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests"
"Timeout waiting for PADO packets"

I'm pretty sure it's a problem with my Debian configuration because I
have no connectivity problems using Windows or a Netwinder(running a
modified version of redhat). Can someone please take a look at the
errors / my configuration files and point out what I'm doing wrong?
I've set up pppoe numerous times before on linux so I know I'm overlooking 
something really small. Thanks in advance.


/etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider is available at:
http://members.rogers.com/mr.suit/debian/pppoe/dsl-provider

/etc/ppp/options :
http://members.rogers.com/mr.suit/debian/pppoe/options

/etc/ppp/pap-secrets :
http://members.rogers.com/mr.suit/debian/pppoe/pap-secrets

My /etc/network/interfaces file says:
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
auto eth0



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Re: kde on sid won't install

2002-02-28 Thread Daniel Stone

On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 10:17:52PM -0800, David Wright wrote:
> >the thing that is holding you up is that the current kde packages
> > depend on libglib1.3-12 which is no longer in the debian archives
> 
> Wow! This is a major bug! Thanks for the tip; I found the relevant bug 
> reports under the libkmid package. The fix has been "pending" for 20 
> days now; let's hope it gets into unstable soon!

Within 24 hours, actually.

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 somebody should legalificate policy
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Re: question about ifup and ifconfig

2002-02-28 Thread Jeff

Ren Weili, 2002-Feb-28 14:05 +0800:
> hallo,
>   what is the diference between ifup and ifconfig?
>   how can ifconfig bring up eth0 use dhcp?
> 

ifconfig is used to statically configure an interface, e.g. eth0

ifup will bring the designated interface up using the
/etc/network/interfaces configuration along with consideration
for any scheme that may be set.

jc


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Re: 2.2r5 Install Endless Loop

2002-02-28 Thread Keith Parkansky

"David H. Askew" wrote:
> 
> hehe..redhat...thats funny
> 
> ..but I guess..linux..is linux
> 
> ..go with what you know...be realize there is lots to learn...

I'm no big fan of Red Hat.  I think they'll
be just like Microsoft in a few years because
they seem to be getting more and more proprietary
with the way they do things with every new
release.  That's why I was happy to find
out about Debian.  But a distro that you
can't install doesn't do me much good.
I've had one problem after another trying
to get a clean r5 install (see my other
thread with the subject line
"2.2r5 Kernel Module Install Failure")

Re: Installing kernel-image-2.4.17-k7

2002-02-28 Thread Bill Moseley

At 12:21 AM 02/28/02 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>   Any suggestions for improved wording? This is what is there now:
>==
>You are attempting to install an initrd kernel image (version $version)
>This will not work unless you have configured your boot loader to use
>initrd.
>==
>
>   People running lilo also get this message:
>==
>As a reminder, in order to configure lilo, you need to
>add an 'initrd=/initrd.img' in your /etc/lilo.conf
>==

I think those are clear, now that the parts are making more sense to me.
It might be helpful to show the lilo line in the first message box, and
maybe say what "an initrd kernel image" means.  But, it's mostly user error
on my part.  It's just a lot to understand the first time through.

I just finished building 2.4.17 from kernel-source into a .deb, and
installing that.  The only step I forgot this time was to add my ethernet
card to /etc/modules on first boot.  Minor problem.

I'm not exactly clear what installing from a package does -- copies the
image to /boot, sets up the symlinks, copies the modules to /lib/modules.
I guess it also let's you manage the compiled kernel as a package.

Anyway, I do think the messages are fine.  Thanks for your help,

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Re: changing mouse buttons

2002-02-28 Thread Dijkhuizen, Jr. M. DTO/SLPLS/CCMH/CCBM/MIDframe BOS/OBG

* Thomas Wegner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020227 22:15]:
> I'm running woody and xfree4.1. I'm using a graphic table from wacom
> (Wacom Graphire seriell) and all is fine. But my middle and right
> mouse buttons are changed. This is a known bug and the mouse buttons
> must be changed in gnome (or xfree). Can anybody tell how to do this?

IIRC, xmodmap can do this with something like

xmodmap -e "pointer 1 3 2"

This may not be a complete solution to your problem, but I hope it gets
you started in the right direction.

good times,
Vineet

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any disk browser?

2002-02-28 Thread softguy

i deleted a file by mistake and want to search the disk. any good
browser that shows data sector by sector?

Re: Help with X

2002-02-28 Thread Johann Spies

On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 10:54:27AM -0500, Bannerman, Israel wrote:
> I just installed Woody and I am trying to get X started.  I  am using the
> Mach32 driver for the ATI Rage Fury Pro video card I have.  But when I try
> to startx I get this:
> 
> XF86Config: /etc/X11/XF86Config
> (**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values
> (--) no ModulePath specified using default: /usr/X11R6/lib/modules
> dbe: Unknown error loading module
> 

Try apt-get install xserver-xfree86 and answer the installation
questions.  It produces /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.  XFree86-3.3.6 uses
/etc/X11/XF86Config.  I think for your video card version 4.x.x would
be better.

Johann
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OT: "creating" an internal DNS entry

2002-02-28 Thread Alex Malinovich

I'm having a bit of a problem with my NAT setup here. I've got a machine
running NAT for the rest of the computers on the LAN to get internet
access. The NAT server (bigbrother) forwards ports 143 and 25 (IMAP and
SMTP) to my mail server (gandalf). This works fine for outside
connections, and connecting directly to gandalf works fine internally.
However, if I try to connect to mail.the-love-shack.net from BEHIND the
NAT box, the connection never gets made. Apparently, ports don't get
forwarded from internal connections. This isn't a big problem for the
most part, but it makes accessing my mail from my laptop a pain in the
rear end. Having to open up Evolution and reconfigure the mail settings
each time I leave or come back home is really annoying. The first idea
that comes to mind is coming up with some way to create an entry for
"mail.the-love-shack.net" in my LOCAL Forward Lookup zone that points to
"gandalf" leaving the EXTERNAL entry for mail.the-love-shack.net intact.
Is there any way to do this, or is there a better way to go about
solving this problem? TIA

-Alex


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Re: Strange E-mail Headers

2002-02-28 Thread Glyn Millington

"Tim Grogan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi all,
>
> I've been paranoid after reading about people relaying through your e-mail
> server and spamming other systems.  I've tried to lock down my system to
> keep that from happening.  Today I got 2 email with these headers and I'm
> wondering if I didn't catch all the opennings.
>
> Tony Steidler-Dennison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>


Tony-Steidler-Dennison has some sort of anti-spam auto-reply set up which
responds to the list and produces the first header you mention - so if
you are reading this Tony..





Glyn
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Re: Verify bounce-debian-user-digest=steidler=mchsi.com@lists.debian.org for tony@lockergnome.com

2002-02-28 Thread Glyn Millington

Tony Steidler-Dennison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Thanks for the note,
>
> Your email has been received, though it hasn't yet been delivered. In order 
> for your email to be delivered, you'll need to reply to this message. This 
> strict filtering protocol arose as the result of a recent exponential 
> increase in junk email in my inbox. Your reply to this mail will move you to 
> the acceptable addresses list, will deliver your original email, and will 
> assure that you'll only need to go through this process once. 
>
> While I've made a careful effort to include all the addresses in my address 
> book in the accept list, yours may have been overlooked. Replying to this 
> mail will recitify that oversight.
>
> Thanks, and sorry for the inconvenience.

Good system - trouble is it appears to bounce your mail-list post
too. Needs a litle tuning.

atb

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Re: any disk browser?

2002-02-28 Thread Romuald DELAVERGNE


Le 2002.02.28 17:06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :

i deleted a file by mistake and want to search the disk. any good
browser that shows data sector by sector?



'recover' could help you.

Re: Strange E-mail Headers - open relay tests

2002-02-28 Thread Alvin Oga


hi ya tim

a good open relay (interactive) test site 
( does 72 open relay tests or something like that )

http://www.paladincorp.com.au/unix/spam/spamlart/

have fun
alvin
http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Mail ... more open relay tests


On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Glyn Millington wrote:

> "Tim Grogan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've been paranoid after reading about people relaying through your e-mail
> > server and spamming other systems.  I've tried to lock down my system to
> > keep that from happening.  Today I got 2 email with these headers and I'm
> > wondering if I didn't catch all the opennings.
> >
> > Tony Steidler-Dennison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> 
> Tony-Steidler-Dennison has some sort of anti-spam auto-reply set up which
> responds to the list and produces the first header you mention - so if
> you are reading this Tony..
> 
>

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Re: any disk browser?

2002-02-28 Thread a

thanks!

which package contain the recover program?

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Subject: Re: any disk browser?


Le 2002.02.28 17:06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
> i deleted a file by mistake and want to search the disk. any good
> browser that shows data sector by sector?
> 

'recover' could help you.


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Re: any disk browser?

2002-02-28 Thread David Raeker-Jordan

a wrote:
> thanks!
> 
> which package contain the recover program?
> 
Recover is the package, but it is not available in stable.

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Re: any disk browser?

2002-02-28 Thread Romuald DELAVERGNE


Le 2002.02.28 12:35, a a écrit :

thanks!

which package contain the recover program?



# apt-get install recover

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Local packages

2002-02-28 Thread Sergey Lapin


Hello, all!!!

I have big collection of self-made packages, which I would like to 
distribute through my network via usual apt-get methods while allowing 
them to update from Debian sites. Connection is only by http,
so I have to install http server somewhere. Could you tell me, how I 
could produce file tree as automajically as I can, and to simplify 
adding packajes to the tree in future? System is 'stable'.


Thanks a lot,
Sergey Lapin
Sys/Net admin of petrozavodsk power plant.

Re: any disk browser?

2002-02-28 Thread Romuald DELAVERGNE


Le 2002.02.28 12:35, a a écrit :

thanks!

which package contain the recover program?



As David says, if you are in stable, you can find source at

http://recover.sourceforge.net/linux/recover/

Re: /tmp size

2002-02-28 Thread David Roundy

On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 07:36:24PM -0800, Richard Otte wrote:
> I recently discovered that /tmp on my machine is rather small, around
> 50mb.  I was trying to use xcdroast, but was unable to extract an audio
> cd to /tmp because it wasn't big enough.  This is strange, because I
> probably have 50gb empty on my hard drive.  I'm wondering if /tmp is a
> separate partition (is this my swap partition?) or why it won't use up
> the empty disk space.  I don't know how to find out the exact limits
> on /tmp, except by what xcdroast told me.
> 
> Can anyone explain to me what is going on, and what to do.  Thanks,

To see if /tmp is a separate partition (and its size, if it is) run

df -h  (the -h gives you human readable units, which is handy)
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Re: OT: "creating" an internal DNS entry

2002-02-28 Thread Richard Hector

Alex Malinovich wrote:
> 
> I'm having a bit of a problem with my NAT setup here. I've got a machine
> running NAT for the rest of the computers on the LAN to get internet
> access. The NAT server (bigbrother) forwards ports 143 and 25 (IMAP and
> SMTP) to my mail server (gandalf). This works fine for outside
> connections, and connecting directly to gandalf works fine internally.
> However, if I try to connect to mail.the-love-shack.net from BEHIND the
> NAT box, the connection never gets made. Apparently, ports don't get
> forwarded from internal connections. This isn't a big problem for the
> most part, but it makes accessing my mail from my laptop a pain in the
> rear end. Having to open up Evolution and reconfigure the mail settings
> each time I leave or come back home is really annoying. The first idea
> that comes to mind is coming up with some way to create an entry for
> "mail.the-love-shack.net" in my LOCAL Forward Lookup zone that points to
> "gandalf" leaving the EXTERNAL entry for mail.the-love-shack.net intact.
> Is there any way to do this, or is there a better way to go about
> solving this problem? TIA

If you're running bind 9, you can use views for this - the external view
points mail.the-love-shack.net to bigbrother, while the internal view
points it to gandalf.

Richard

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Help with missing /boot/boot.b

2002-02-28 Thread Liam Black

Hi,

I posted a message to this list awhile ago because the hard drive that was
mounted to /boot, and which contained boot.b, had decided to go to the big
drive bay in the sky. I was told that recompiling my kernel might solve the
problem, but didn't get a chance to get around to it until last night.

I did make menuconfig, make dep, make bzImage, make-kpkg kernel_image, dpkg
-i kernel_image.

It goes fine until it gets to the Lilo configuration bit. At that point,
whether I'm using my existing lilo.conf or creating a new one, it errors me
out. When I look at the log, it tells me that lilo couldn't find
/boot/boot.b (well, yea) and that I should manually edit my lilo.conf. Is
there a step or a flag or something that I'm missing, here?

l

Re: OT: "creating" an internal DNS entry

2002-02-28 Thread Elizabeth Barham

That sounds like a configuration issue with NAT. I have not personally
used any of the 2.4 iptables, but with ipchains this was relatively
easy.

Your firewall could be setup to masquerade any non-local addresses out
onto the net, specifically any in the "user-port" range to outside
port 25. The only ones that need to be forwarded to your SMTP server
are those asking for the Internet/Firewall (external) IP address
coming from outside.

Is it possible to set NAT up so that it only forwards the
external NIC?

Elizabeth

  Alex Malinovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> --=-5qzpX8V1HTIzK6wazYqD
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> 
> I'm having a bit of a problem with my NAT setup here. I've got a machine
> running NAT for the rest of the computers on the LAN to get internet
> access. The NAT server (bigbrother) forwards ports 143 and 25 (IMAP and
> SMTP) to my mail server (gandalf). This works fine for outside
> connections, and connecting directly to gandalf works fine internally.
> However, if I try to connect to mail.the-love-shack.net from BEHIND the
> NAT box, the connection never gets made. Apparently, ports don't get
> forwarded from internal connections. This isn't a big problem for the
> most part, but it makes accessing my mail from my laptop a pain in the
> rear end. Having to open up Evolution and reconfigure the mail settings
> each time I leave or come back home is really annoying. The first idea
> that comes to mind is coming up with some way to create an entry for
> "mail.the-love-shack.net" in my LOCAL Forward Lookup zone that points to
> "gandalf" leaving the EXTERNAL entry for mail.the-love-shack.net intact.
> Is there any way to do this, or is there a better way to go about
> solving this problem? TIA

Re: gnome icons wont change in woody - only one icon

Jason M. Harvey wrote:
>at home, i'm running woody. ever since the dist-upgrade, gmc no longer
>lets me choose different icons... all the icons i have a the default
>directory icon, even the trash!

gmc 4.5.55-1.2 provides a tool to migrate ~/.gnome/metadata.db to the
new format. Please upgrade to that version and try it out.

-- 
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Re: woody - no installation candidate..

Ross Tsolakidis wrote:
>I've noticed that ever since I have upgraded to woody, a lot of packages
>aren't available to be installed.
>Such as, mysql.
>Package mysql has no installation candidate.
>
>Is this an issue with woody, is there a way I can resolve it ?

potato didn't have a mysql package either. You probably want
mysql-client or mysql-server.

>

Please ditch the HTML, thanks. :)

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When will "woody" be out?

2002-02-28 Thread louie miranda

Hi, when will "Woody" be out?

thanks.. :)




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Re: using Woody vs testing

Dave Sherohman wrote:
>On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 09:18:23AM -0900, Ken Irving wrote:
>> What happens to testing when woody becomes stable?
>
>Some time before woody becomes stable, it will be frozen and a new
>name will be assigned to testing.  testing will go on receiving
>packages from unstable just like it does today.  So we'll go from:
>
>unstable -> sid
>testing  -> woody
>stable   -> potato
>
>to
>
>unstable -> sid
>???  -> testing
>frozen   -> woody
>stable   -> potato

There won't be a frozen distribution this time round, as testing can
handle similar requirements. We'll go directly from your first layout
above to this:

>unstable -> sid
>???  -> testing
>stable   -> woody

Cheers,

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Re: How to Upgrade from Potato to Woody?

Matthew Dalton wrote:
>The only packages that gave me any grief were the KDE ones, as expected.
>The newer packages had the files rearranged between the different
>packages, so apt-get was unable to install packages because they were
>attempting to overwrite files from other installed packages. I think I
>ended up using 'dpkg --force-overwrite' a few times to get them
>installed.

Please make sure that bugs have been reported against the appropriate
packages about this ... when files move from one package to another, the
second package should use Replaces: to handle it smoothly.

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Unable to Ping NT boxes

2002-02-28 Thread Bodnyk, Bruce W

I'm trying to configure samba on my Linux machine so I can
access directories on an MT box and am being unsuccessful.
I'm thinking it has something to do with another problem
which I have ignored up to now.

After installing Linux I found that I was unable to ping normal
NT machines using their host name. If I use their IP address
then the ping works. However I am able to ping Unix machines
using their host name AND can ping a number of NT servers
using their host name. However whenever I attempt to ping
my NT desktop or Windows 2000 laptop by name the ping
fails.

My NT desktop and Windows 2000 laptop are configured to
use DHCP to get their IP address. 

Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks!
Bruce

Bruce W. Bodnyk
Staff Engineer, CAE Development
FCI Electronics
825 Old Trail Road
Etters, PA 17319-9351

Phone: (717) 938-7543
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SiS 6263 PCI card setup

2002-02-28 Thread David Shepherd

I need some help setting up a SiS 6236 PCI graphics card on my elderly Potato 
box.  
Has anyone got one of these working with XFree 3.3.6?

I want to know if its possible to change the IRQ that the SiS card is using.
Currently its using IRQ 11 which conflicts with my RealTek 8029 NIC 
(which also wants to use IRQ 11).

Alternatively I could change the IRQ that the RealTek card uses, 
do I specify this as a LILO parameter at bootup?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
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[홍보]네티즌이 만든 새로운 검색엔진입니다.

2002-02-28 Thread 아이따따따

Title: 아이따따따

신개념의 인터넷 검색엔진

네티즌이 주인이되어 만드는 검색엔진 아이따따따 소개
more
»

인터넷에는 많은 정보와 그 정보를 찾아주는 검색엔진이 있습니다. 하지만 검색엔진들이 너무나
많은 검색결과를 제공해 주어 오히려 정보를 찾는데 많은 노력과 시간을 허비하고 있습니다.

검색 개념

이제는 얻을 수 없는 많은 양의 검색결과보다는 신뢰성 있는 정보를 요구하는 시대가 되었습니다.
인터넷에 산재해 있는 사이트 중에는 우리가 꼭 필요한 정보들을 담고있는 사이트가 많이 있는데,
이 사이트 들을 구분하면 포탈,보탈,허브 사이트라고 합니다.

검색 도우미

아이따따따는 네티즌이 양심적으로 등록한 사이트를 찾아주는 따뜻한 검색엔진입니다.
귀하께서도 카테고리 담당자가 되실 수 있습니다.

담당자 보기

우리 네티즌이 갖고있는 유익한 정보를 서로 공유하고 새로운 네티즌문화를 창출하는것입니다.
이미 10만이 넘는 네티즌이 한가족이 되었습니다.
귀하께서도 아이따따따의 한 가족이 되어주시길 부탁드립니다.

나도가족되기

수신거부 및 메일발송에 관한 사항
수신거부»

귀하께 불편을 끼쳐 드렸다면 용서를 바라며, 이메일은 한 번만 발송됩니다.

귀하의 메일은 인터넷에서 웹서핑중 취득하였으며 귀하의 어떠한 정보도 갖고있지 않습니다.
다음부터는 인터넷,정보통신,바이러스백신 등 유익한 정보만을 보내드립니다.
아이따따따의 가족이 되시면 전체가족 메일을 통하여 유익한 정보를 받아보실 수 있습니다.
공지사항을 참고하시면 아이따따따 내부사정을 아실 수 있습니다.
바로가서 보기
네티즌의 고견을 수렴하는 공개게시판을 운영중입니다.
바로가서 보기

그래도 수신을 원치 않으실 경우 수신거부를 클릭하십시오!

mailto:iwebmaster 감사합니다.

sid dist-upgrade only to remove packages

2002-02-28 Thread Thomas Shemanske

I checked for sid upgrades today, and there were 20 or so, but 30 
packages which apt-get wanted to remove.


I upgraded by hand (apt-get install) the packages in groups to see where 
the conflict was, but in the end all the upgrades installed just find. 
Still when I "apt-get update; apt-get -s -u dist-upgrade", I get (first 
output surpressed) that 30 packages want to be removed.  


hecke-root# apt-get -s -u dist-upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Calculating Upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
 balsa bonobo bonobo-conf evolution gedit glade-gnome gnome-applets 
gnome-db

 gnome-gv gnome-panel gnome-panel-data gnome-session gnome-utils gnumeric
 gtkhtml libcamel0 libgda-common libgda0 libgnomedb0 libgnomeprint-bin
 libgnomeprint-data libgnomeprint15 libgtkhtml-data libgtkhtml14 
libgtkhtml15

 libgtkhtml17 libgtkhtml18 libgtkhtml19 libgtkhtml20 libgtkhtml9
The following packages have been kept back
 bug-buddy
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 30 to remove and 1  not upgraded.

Any clues?  I have tried reinstalling individual packages listed below, 
but are all up to date.

I hesitate to remove then reinstall, since this will take out gnome.

Any thoughts appreciated.

Thanks

Tom

RE: SiS 6263 PCI card setup - should be SiS 6326

2002-02-28 Thread David Shepherd

Whoops meant to read Sis 6326

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Shepherd) wrote:

>I need some help setting up a SiS 6236 PCI graphics card on my elderly Potato 
>box.  
>Has anyone got one of these working with XFree 3.3.6?
>
>I want to know if its possible to change the IRQ that the SiS card is using.
>Currently its using IRQ 11 which conflicts with my RealTek 8029 NIC 
>(which also wants to use IRQ 11).
>
>Alternatively I could change the IRQ that the RealTek card uses, 
>do I specify this as a LILO parameter at bootup?
>
>Any help would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks
>Dave
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>
>
>
>
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Neighbor table overflow.. what does it mean

After initial install of woody 3.0, at the beginning of basic
configuration with nothing but the basic system installed.  Upon
aswering yes that I am ready to configure  this message is printed to
screen: 

Neighbor overflow table

Sounds rather ominous.

Dmesg shows this output:
   [...]
   PCI routing table Version 1.0 at Oxf1690
   Intel ISA/PCI/Cardbus PCIC Probe
   no bridges found
  ds: No Socket drivers loaded 
  
  Neighbor overflow table 

What is the problem here?

libapache-mod-ssl

2002-02-28 Thread Geoffrey Deasey

I can only find the ones compiled for apache 1.3.22, I am running the 
apache that came with potato.  Should I get the source for libapache and 
apache or should I be upgrading apache somehow and then install the 
libapache-mod-ssl that I have ?


Thanks

Geoffrey

Re: The Custom Kernel that Wouldn't Boot.

2002-02-28 Thread Dimitri Maziuk

* Timothy R. Butler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> Hi everyone, 
>   I've been trying to compile a custom kernel to use the Linux Progress Patch 
> Gordon Fraser was nice to provide me with, and also to optimize the kernel 
> for my Pentium II processor. 
> 
>   However, I seem to have a kernel that refuses to boot. Once it starts the 
> frame buffer, it simple quits doing anything (this is the case with or 
> without the Linux Progress Patch.

Yesterday I found out that kernel won't load if there's an error
in video mode spec: I had rgba line in /etc/fb.modes that worked
with 2.4.10, but 2.4.18 refused to load until I commented the
line out.

Try compiling framebuffer as a module. Remove "video=" from 
lilo.conf, try booting. If it boots, modprobe framebuffer 
driver and use fbset to change video mode. Pay attention to 
error messages. Once you find the mode that works, recompile 
with framebuffer built-in and put the "video=" back into 
lilo.conf.

Of course, if it refuses to boot without fb, the problem is
somewhere else.

Dima
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Problem with dump'ing of RAID filesystem (somewhat long. sorry.)

2002-02-28 Thread Bill Benedetto

Good day.

I set up a Woody box recently with RAID-1.

I have two partitions:

  # df -kl
  Filesystem   1k-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
  /dev/md1   7740312981864   6365264  14% /
  /dev/md0 23239  2921 19118  14% /boot

  # cat /proc/mdstat
  Personalities : [raid1] 
  read_ahead 1024 sectors
  md0 : active raid1 sdb1[1] sda1[0]
24000 blocks [2/2] [UU]

  md1 : active raid1 sdb3[0] sda3[1]
7863744 blocks [2/2] [UU]

  unused devices: 
  # 

It took me awhile to get this up and working but I finally
figured it out - mostly working from
/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-txt/Boot+Root+Raid+LILO.gz and
/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-txt/Software-RAID-HOWTO.gz and a comment
or two gleaned from this list.

There were/are no problems until I tried to backup these
filesystems.  /dev/md0 backs up fine.  However, the first time
that I tried to back up /dev/md1, I got this:

 DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Thu Feb 21 08:11:46 2002
 DUMP: Dumping /dev/md1 (/) to standard output
 DUMP: Added inode 7 to exclude list (resize inode)
 DUMP: Label: none
 DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
 DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories]
 DUMP: estimated 463351 tape blocks.
 DUMP: Volume 1 started with block 1 at: Thu Feb 21 08:11:57 2002
 DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories]
 DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files]
 DUMP: bread: lseek fails
 DUMP: bread: lseek fails
 DUMP: bread: lseek fails

 [this line above repeats THOUSANDS of times...]

 DUMP: Volume 1 completed at: Thu Feb 21 08:13:29 2002
 DUMP: Volume 1 532410 tape blocks (519.93MB)
 DUMP: Volume 1 took 0:01:32
 DUMP: Volume 1 transfer rate: 5787 kB/s
 DUMP: 532410 tape blocks (519.93MB)
 DUMP: finished in 92 seconds, throughput 5787 kBytes/sec
 DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Thu Feb 21 08:11:46 2002
 DUMP: Date this dump completed:  Thu Feb 21 08:13:29 2002
 DUMP: Average transfer rate: 5787 kB/s
 DUMP: DUMP IS DONE

So it appears that the dump worked but only with thousands of
error messages.

I decided to get dump from unstable and used that.  *THEN* I get
some form of this error:

  DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Thu Feb 28 09:54:27 2002
  DUMP: Dumping /dev/md1 (/) to /tmp/dump_0_root
  DUMP: Added inode 7 to exclude list (resize inode)
  DUMP: Label: none
  DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
  DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories]
  DUMP: estimated 450993 tape blocks.
  DUMP: Volume 1 started with block 1 at: Thu Feb 28 09:54:38 2002
  DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories]

 /dev/md1: EXT2 directory corrupted while converting directory #65573

  DUMP: error reading command pipe: Connection reset by peer
  DUMP: error reading command pipe: Connection reset by peer

The first time that I got this I thought that there must be some
hardware error.  I searched and found the inode referred to by
dump (which happened to be in /tmp) and removed the directory.  I
re-ran the dump (still using unstable's dump) and got the same
error but a different inode (something under /var/run... :-( ).

So my compatriot suggested fsck'ing the live filesystem.  That
was not too bright a move and after i reinstalled everything I
was ready to start trying dump again.

Actually, at this point I was pretty disgusted with the whole
thing and put on RedHat 7.2, making RAID filesystems from the
pretty install GUI.  That worked fine (and was quite easy).

*AND* I could dump /dev/md1 from RedHat with no problem.  dump
didn't even hiccup.  Darn.

*BUT* I really want to stick with Debian.  So I re-installed
Woody again (a glutton for punishment, apparently).

I tried using the dump from RedHat 7.2 and from Mandrake 8.0 and
get similar results.  I also tried dump'ing either "/" or
"/dev/md1".  That didn't seem to make any difference.

I tried upgrading to unstable's raidtools2, e2fsprogs, libc,
anything related to dump.  Each time the backup failed in the
same way.

For grins, I tried backing up /dev/sda3 instead of /dev/md1 and
that works!  Now why is that?!?

Can someone please explain this to me or help me figure out (a)
if there is a problem with my system or (b) how to work around
this?  I can live with backing up /dev/sda3 but why should I have
to?  Am I causing myself some unknown future headaches?

So many questions.  So little time.

Thanks for any help!

- Bill
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
Bill Benedetto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>The Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co.
I don't speak for Goodyear and they don't speak for me.  We're both happy.

Configuring locales

During the second phase of woody install, I see a screen that asks me
to configure locales.  Seems to be no help on this screen and it isn't
mentioned in the install instructions.

How can I know what to do here? Will basic stuff be setup if I skip
this?

I am somewhat experienced in linux and installs of various flavors but
I have no clue about this.  I've never been asked to setup Locales
manually.

I have no special foreign language requirements and am a native
enlglish speaker.  Do I need to select the english ones?

Re: When will "woody" be out?

* louie miranda ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020228 07:11]:
> Hi, when will "Woody" be out?

When it's ready =)

See http://www.debian.org/releases/ for more philosophy.

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Re: sid dist-upgrade only to remove packages

2002-02-28 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)

On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 10:09:15 -0500, Thomas Shemanske wrote:
> I checked for sid upgrades today, and there were 20 or so, but 30 
> packages which apt-get wanted to remove.

sid's gnome-print packages are currently broken. A fixed version is
currently in incoming. See http://bugs.debian.org/136107 .

HTH,
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Re: SiS 6263 PCI card setup

2002-02-28 Thread dman

On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 09:44:33AM -0500, David Shepherd wrote:
| I need some help setting up a SiS 6236 PCI graphics card on my
| elderly Potato box.  Has anyone got one of these working with XFree
| 3.3.6?

I used to have a 6326 (AGP) working with XFree 3.3.6.  Now I'm using
XFree 4.1.0 and VESA framebuffer.  The simplest way to get it working
is to recompile your kernel with VESA framebuffer and use it.  For X,
select the XServer-FBDev server (or whatever the exact name is).

| I want to know if its possible to change the IRQ that the SiS card is using.
| Currently its using IRQ 11 which conflicts with my RealTek 8029 NIC 
| (which also wants to use IRQ 11).
| 
| Alternatively I could change the IRQ that the RealTek card uses, 
| do I specify this as a LILO parameter at bootup?

I'm not sure how you can actually change the IRQ for PCI cards -- it's
supposed to work automatically.  I know that for 'ne' (NE2k card on
ISA bus) NICs you can specify the IRQ to the driver, but that is only
to tell the driver what the card already knows.

-D

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Re: Unable to Ping NT boxes

* Bodnyk, Bruce W ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020228 07:36]:
> I'm trying to configure samba on my Linux machine so I can
> access directories on an MT box and am being unsuccessful.
> I'm thinking it has something to do with another problem
> which I have ignored up to now.
> 
> After installing Linux I found that I was unable to ping normal
> NT machines using their host name. If I use their IP address
> then the ping works. However I am able to ping Unix machines
> using their host name AND can ping a number of NT servers
> using their host name. However whenever I attempt to ping
> my NT desktop or Windows 2000 laptop by name the ping
> fails.

You should understand the way this works so that you can better
understand why you can ping some but not others by name. When you say
something like ping google.com, your system first tries to convert the
name "google.com" into an IP address, and then it sends a ping to that
IP address. The way it does the name->address conversion may vary, but
most likely it first looks in a file called /etc/hosts as a sort of
"cheat sheet" of name/address pairs. If it's not found there, it asks a
DNS server "Hey, what's 'google.com's address?" To figure out which DNS
server to ask, it looks in /etc/resolv.conf.

So if you can ping some machines by name, what that really means is that
your system can resolve those names into addresses. If you can't ping
others by name (but can by address) the step that it's missing is being
able to convert the name into an address. Given that you're able to
resolve some machines, it sounds like you do have a DNS server listed
that is able to give you some sensible replies, but that it doesn't know
anything about certain machines (i.e. your NT desktop and Win2k laptop).
You have a couple of options (maybe): first, you could add entries for
those machines into /etc/hosts. Or (this one's the maybe) you could add
entries for those machines in your local DNS server, if you're the
administrator for it (or ask your DNS server's admin to add entries for
those machines).

If you're getting a dynamically-assigned (changes every time) address on
those DHCP machines, neither option is really a good one, since the
addresses in either place (/etc/hosts or in the DNS zone file) will
become out of date next time you get a different address. I know at
least win2k (and maybe NT) has something they call something like
"register this machine's address in DNS" or something, which might be
able to help, but you're unlikely to get good help configuring your
windows machines around here =) My suggestion would be to put debian on
'em ;)

good times,
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Re: How to Upgrade from Potato to Woody?

* will trillich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020227 05:20]:
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 03:09:55PM +1100, Matthew Dalton wrote:
> > The only packages that gave me any grief were the KDE ones, as expected.
> > The newer packages had the files rearranged between the different
> > packages, so apt-get was unable to install packages because they were
> > attempting to overwrite files from other installed packages. I think I
> > ended up using 'dpkg --force-overwrite' a few times to get them
> > installed. Everything else went without a hitch. I had to manually merge
> > a few config files to get the intended changes from Woody into them, but
> > that didn't seem unusual.
> > 
> > I actually had to run dist-upgrade several times before it installed
> > everything. It kept getting stuck on the KDE stuff, after which I would
> > run 'apt-get -f upgrade' and 'dpkg --configure --pending' before
> > starting another dist-upgrade. Eventually all that was left was to
> > upgrade the broken KDE packages in the manner that I described above. I
> > don't expect that this would happen on all upgrades though.
> 
> do you think it'd pay to "apt-get --purge remove " first?

Why purge? If you just remove, it should save your configs. Just dumping
it all doesn't sound like a very clean upgrade to me at all -- more like
a catastrophic one =) Of course, if the config files are what it chokes
on, you might end up having to purge them anyway, but at least do
yourself a favor and back them up first. (Of course, you already backed
up the whole system anyway before attempting the woody upgrade,
right???)

good times,
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Re: exim and printer answers

2002-02-28 Thread paul

pritner is hp  laserjet 4 plus or hplaserjet4plus
with no postscript.There is ghostscript installed
- do you have the full HP name for it?

chine.  Who put it there, and what's in it?  Could
> you attach a copy
> of it to your next post?  The file I refer to is:
> 
>   /etc/magicfilter/hp4000t-filter
> 
> When you give a print command, this file determines
> what to do, so it's
> quit crucial that its content is correct and fits
> your printer.

> 
> 
> > Commands:
> > cat filename > /dev/lp0 
> > works but no cr or lf
> 
> No lf are you sure?  Dit you try very short lines? 
> Try as root (the
> leading spaces are here to make it stand out in the
> post and '# ' and
> `> ' are computer prompts, ignore those; the rest
> has to be typed by you):
> 
> # cat << EOF > /dev/lp0
> > a very short line
> > a second line
> > a final line
> > << EOF
> 
> This should produce output like:
> 
> a very short line
>  a second line
>   a final line
> 
> If so, this means
>   a) your printer is working
>   b) your printer needs filtering (magicfilter) to
> get ride ot the
>  stair-case effect shown above

I tried this twice. the first time the HD led light
went crazy.The second time nothing. both times nothing
from the printer
> 
> 
>
># ps ax | grep lp
> 
> There should be a line with `lpd' in it.

/usr/sbin/lpd
> 
> 
> > files commented:
> > /etc/exim.conf
> > /etc/mailname
> 
> I really don't understand what you mean with `file
> commented'.
> Please be more specific.
> Commented refers to putting a "#" mark. In this case
the tech changed the names and gave them ff extetion
which makes it easy to find
>
> And if so, it just means your email isn't set up
> properly either.
> Can you send email locally from one user to an other
> on your own
> machine? 
Yes netscape mail works and Kmail works. No other
programs installed at present.
> 
>ledge of printers
> what so ever.  But it's quit possible that the
> printer daemon sends
> emails to root to tell him of failures.
> 
>
># dpkg -s lpr | head -n 2
lpr installed ok

># dpkg -s lprng | head -n 2
npring not installed

># dpkg -s magicfilter | head -n 2
installed ok

># dpkg -s cups | head -n 2
not installed

># dpkg -s cupssys | head -n 2
not installed

I hope this gives some clues.
and thank you ver much
paul taylor
> 



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Re: AutoCAD (or similar) for Debian/Linux?

2002-02-28 Thread Juari Ritter Müller

I agree. GNU/Linux should be respected and suported by the big softwarehouses.

On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 10:36:10PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> There are a number of Linux CAD apps that support AutoCAD dwg files...the free
> ones that I tried I found rather rudimentary (just the basic CAD stuff).  I
> imagine the ones that cost $$ may be better.
> 
> In order to run AutoCAD 2000, I broke down and installed Windows (AutoCAD 
> being
> one of my main reasons, although not my only reason).
> 
> Someday I look forward to a world where all apps are available on Linux
> natively.  AutoCAD really should look into having a Linux version--after all
> R11 was on UNIX as well.  (BTW, anyone ever try to port that one over???)
> 

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Re: Configuring locales

2002-02-28 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

> 
> I have no special foreign language requirements and am a native
> enlglish speaker.  Do I need to select the english ones?
> 

Everything will work fine for English speakers.  If you want to add a locale
later look at /etc/locale.gen and related docs (it will point you to them).

Re: question about Acrobat

2002-02-28 Thread Dave Carrigan

"Eric G. Miller"  writes:

> It appears to support text searches in the latest version.  I'd still
> like a bookmarks tree myself (big documents are much easier to
> navigate).

Exactly. I program for PalmOS, and reading something like the PalmOS
Programmers Reference without being able to jump around to different
sections would make it impossible to use. I also like Acrobat's "back"
button, which lets you backtrack your navigation. Of course, without a
bookmark tree, the back button is a little less useful, since you don't
really have random access to the doc anyway. What I really hate about
acrobat is its propensity to consume memory. 1GB of RAM, 512 MB of swap,
and Acrobat will still find a way to use it all. Wanna free up 800MB?
Just kill Acrobat.

Fortunately for me, the palmos docs are now available in HTML, so I'm
finding that my dependence on acrobat is getting smaller.

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Enough time wasted, moving on

Anyone who wants the official 6 CD set of woody 3.0
Can send me an address privately.  First one I get in my inbox with
snailmail address will get the cds mailed to them.

I've burned up 2 full days, gotten no help whatever from the list.
Found the install routines to be unusable.

All I hear from Woody is `can't won't or doesn't'  And this on a
machine that has had 2 flavors of linux, 2 of the BSDs and Solaris
(intel) install successfully.  Hardware recognized etc.

My nic is not found, X doesn't run, I get a message after the install
that there were errors during install.  Please fix the errors
mentioned above... none are mentioned.  I've tried the simplicity of
Tasksel and the labor instensive dselect hell, 3 fullbore tries at
installing.

I have a non-functional system at the end of 2 days.
When I see things so basic like the names referred to when the
different cds are requested during package install.  The names the
routine asks for are nowhere on my CDs.  Not that hard to see what is
really meant but only because I'm already familiar with some of the
lingo.

Maybe I got hoodwinked getting them from `The sphere'

When I see things like that gauranteed to cause confusion, I know that
at the Debian organization someone is asleep at the switch.  And can
rest assured that I will be in for lots of unnecessary grief caused by
`loose' organization and homeboy packaging.

One has to think, what else is poorly done here.

But then again for someone who enjoys major unnecessary tinkering. 
Relentless `fixes' and the like,  Here is a chance to get a setup that
will keep you busy for a long time, and absolutely free.  I'll pay the
postage too.

Maybe I should have tried the released version, but something about
the name `potato' puts one in mind of a large overweight weak
vegetable lying on a couch.

At least `woody' sounded.. well  erect :-)

Re: Fresh install no network

* Harry Putnam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020227 22:37]:
> I'm not real sure what card is in there but its one of the commaon
> 3com cards.  I had hoped some kind of probe would find it and I
> wouldn't have to tear things up to find my original box etc. or open
> the case to get it.  This case is in a inconvenient spot.

> What is the best way, with least hair pulling to get the nic setup?
> I'll check dmesg once bootup is complete.

dmesg is a good place to look. Also try lspci (from the pciutils
package). It should give you the card's version string, which should
include the model number. If you have a 3c90x series card, you probably
want the (ill-named) 3c59x driver. Once you know which card you have it
will be easy to tell you which driver will serve it. For starters, you
can try the networking directory of the kernel docs, or google.

good times,
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lprng: how does one get Z in the control file?

2002-02-28 Thread Walter Tautz

 I am running lprng version 3.7.4.

Here is the printcap:
 

 ljp_3016|ps_mfcf|psm|ljm|lp2up_mfcf|lp2up|2up|lp_mfcf|lpm|l|lp:\
 :sd=/var/spool/lpd/ljp_3016:\
 :mx#0:\
 :rm=print.math:\
 :rp=ljp_3016:\
 :bk=true:\
 :nline_after_file=true:\
 :lpd_bounce=true:\


putting stuff like append_z seems to get Z to showup but
not with the arguments called. i would like to have users
be able to run with -Z options on the command line.

Is there a compile time default or some other way to turn on
Z options in the control files?

-walter

Re: Configuring locales

"Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> 
>> I have no special foreign language requirements and am a native
>> enlglish speaker.  Do I need to select the english ones?
>> 
>
> Everything will work fine for English speakers.  If you want to add a locale
> later look at /etc/locale.gen and related docs (it will point you to them).

Thanks Sean, for your helpful reply.
I'm sorry to say that I've found so many problems with my three
attempts at installing woody 3.0, and found a number of things that
seem to indicate a serious waste of time in store for me, that I've
thrown in the towel and am offering anyone who wants them the 6 cd set
of woody 3.0.

Re: The Custom Kernel that Wouldn't Boot.

Hi Dima,
> Of course, if it refuses to boot without fb, the problem is
> somewhere else.
 
  It seems to refuse to boot even without fb. :-( As with the last kernel, I 
get the following in kern.log:

---
Feb 28 11:59:21 dellbert kernel: PCI: Found IRQ 9 for device 00:10.0
Feb 28 11:59:21 dellbert kernel: PCI: Sharing IRQ 9 with 00:07.2
Feb 28 11:59:24 dellbert kernel: Kernel logging (proc) stopped.
Feb 28 11:59:24 dellbert kernel: Kernel log daemon terminating.
---

  Any ideas what I might be selecting wrong? Is it that I'm doing something 
wrong with initrd? Perhaps it's the fact that it's 686 optimized?

  Thanks,
   Tim

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RE: Unable to Ping NT boxes

2002-02-28 Thread Kurc, Marcin A.

Do you run DNS at all?
or are your NT boxes using WINS?

Marcin Kurc
CAD Systems Administrator
Cooper-Standard Automotive 

-Original Message-
From: Vineet Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 11:34 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Unable to Ping NT boxes


* Bodnyk, Bruce W ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020228 07:36]:
> I'm trying to configure samba on my Linux machine so I can
> access directories on an MT box and am being unsuccessful.
> I'm thinking it has something to do with another problem
> which I have ignored up to now.
> 
> After installing Linux I found that I was unable to ping normal
> NT machines using their host name. If I use their IP address
> then the ping works. However I am able to ping Unix machines
> using their host name AND can ping a number of NT servers
> using their host name. However whenever I attempt to ping
> my NT desktop or Windows 2000 laptop by name the ping
> fails.

You should understand the way this works so that you can better
understand why you can ping some but not others by name. When you say
something like ping google.com, your system first tries to convert the
name "google.com" into an IP address, and then it sends a ping to that
IP address. The way it does the name->address conversion may vary, but
most likely it first looks in a file called /etc/hosts as a sort of
"cheat sheet" of name/address pairs. If it's not found there, it asks a
DNS server "Hey, what's 'google.com's address?" To figure out which DNS
server to ask, it looks in /etc/resolv.conf.

So if you can ping some machines by name, what that really means is that
your system can resolve those names into addresses. If you can't ping
others by name (but can by address) the step that it's missing is being
able to convert the name into an address. Given that you're able to
resolve some machines, it sounds like you do have a DNS server listed
that is able to give you some sensible replies, but that it doesn't know
anything about certain machines (i.e. your NT desktop and Win2k laptop).
You have a couple of options (maybe): first, you could add entries for
those machines into /etc/hosts. Or (this one's the maybe) you could add
entries for those machines in your local DNS server, if you're the
administrator for it (or ask your DNS server's admin to add entries for
those machines).

If you're getting a dynamically-assigned (changes every time) address on
those DHCP machines, neither option is really a good one, since the
addresses in either place (/etc/hosts or in the DNS zone file) will
become out of date next time you get a different address. I know at
least win2k (and maybe NT) has something they call something like
"register this machine's address in DNS" or something, which might be
able to help, but you're unlikely to get good help configuring your
windows machines around here =) My suggestion would be to put debian on
'em ;)

good times,
Vineet

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Re: Installing kernel-image-2.4.17-k7

2002-02-28 Thread Stan Kaufman

Manoj Srivastava wrote:

> Any suggestions for improved wording? This is what is there now:
> ==
> You are attempting to install an initrd kernel image (version $version)
> This will not work unless you have configured your boot loader to use
> initrd.
> ==

This was good; it pointed out which RTFM was germane. A note that the new 2.4.x
kernel images use initrd whereas the 2.2.x kernels didn't would help those of us
who don't follow kernel development realize that there's something new that we
need to pay attention here.

> People running lilo also get this message:
> ==
> As a reminder, in order to configure lilo, you need to
> add an 'initrd=/initrd.img' in your /etc/lilo.conf
> ==

More explicit instructions about where in /etc/lilo.conf the line should go 
would
have made the fix easier--that it should go in the image=/vmlinuz section, and 
not
at, say, the end of the file. Perhaps this is obvious once you know, but it's
those of us who don't know who need clear instructions! ;-) From the number of
posts I found on this topic in the archives, apparently there are a few of us 
out
there.

> Everyone gets this:
> ==
> I repeat, You need to configure your boot loader. If you have already done
> so, and you wish to get rid of this message, please put
>   `do_initrd = Yes'
> in /etc/kernel-img.conf.
> ==

This confused me a bit. At first I thought maybe /etc/kernel-img.conf was
necessary for the kernel to install, but then I realized that it just shuts off
the warning. I ended up just editing /etc/lilo.conf in another terminal and
resuming the kernel install without messing with /etc/kernel-img.conf and when 
the
install found /etc/lilo.conf to be in proper shape, all went well.

So, I'm not clear how this particular warning aids the process. Should the user 
be
allowed to eliminate the warning even if they haven't done the Right Thing with
lilo.conf yet? If they have, they won't get the warning anyway. Seems to me that
all would be clearer if this particular message were just dropped, or replaced 
by
a repeat of the "You can't get past this step of the install until you've fixed
your boot loader" message.

> Some lilo users, who have this line in lilo.conf, get warned:
> ==
> In addition, the line
> "ramdisk = 0"
> should be removed or commented.
> ==
>
>  (non lilo users do not get the lilo specific message, of course).
>
> manoj

Thanks for requesting input, Manoj, and thanks for maintaining the package!!

Stan

Re: Neighbor table overflow.. what does it mean

2002-02-28 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)

On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 07:28:08 -0800, Harry Putnam wrote:
> Neighbor overflow table

Make sure you have loopback networking ("lo") configured.

HTH,
Ray
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rsh

2002-02-28 Thread FU

Hi,

  While I was installing the rsh-server, I encountered
the following problems. 

Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove
and 1  not 
upgraded.
4 packages not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be
used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
Setting up exim (3.33-1.1) ...
Error: system's FQDN hostname
(pa1_2.mildred.cpsc.ucalgary.ca) doesn't 
match
RFC1035 syntax; cannot configure the mail system.
dpkg: error processing exim (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error
exit status 1
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of at:
 at depends on mail-transport-agent; however:
  Package mail-transport-agent is not installed.
  Package exim which provides mail-transport-agent is
not configured 
yet.
dpkg: error processing at (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of
mailx:
 mailx depends on mail-transport-agent; however:
  Package mail-transport-agent is not installed.
  Package exim which provides mail-transport-agent is
not configured 
yet.
dpkg: error processing mailx (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of
logrotate:
 logrotate depends on mailx; however:
  Package mailx is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing logrotate (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 exim
 at
 mailx
 logrotate
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code
(1)
Some errors occurred while unpacking. I'm going to
configure the
packages that were installed. This may result in
duplicate errors
or errors caused by missing dependencies. This is OK,
only the errors
above this message are important. Please fix them and
run [I]nstall 
again
Press enter to continue.

I suspect it's the problem of the FQDN in my the
machines of my cluster. If so, how to setup an
appropriate FQDN for my machines which are assigned a
private ip address (192.168.1.x).

Thank you very much,

Mark

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Re: AutoCAD (or similar) for Debian/Linux?

2002-02-28 Thread Greg Madden

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On Wednesday 27 February 2002 07:16 pm, Alvin Oga wrote:
> hi ya
>
> there is linuxcad.com
>
> and a gazillion more stuff to checkout
> ( easier to just get autocad and be 100% sure it works right )
>   - some can only read *.dwg files
>   - linuxcad can read/write *.dwg and *.dxf files

Bad experience with linuxcad, just say no. http://www.varicad.com 
(3D)is commercial but has a native Linux version (windows version also) 
& is used in production here, its a mechanical package but is used to 
do electrical drawings. The 99.9%? compatable version of Autocad is 
Vdraft. http://www.vdraft.com/, runs well in VMware.

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RE: AutoCAD (or similar) for Debian/Linux?

2002-02-28 Thread Kurc, Marcin A.

Everybody says it but nobody does anything ...
well maybe with the exception of platform.com.
The reason for not having any CAD/CAM packages (except Nastran/Patran)
ported is that the software makers don't see any financial gain in it.
Not many users running their software on Windows will switch to Linux
version, the only ones will be people running their software on Unix.
Therefore, there is no gain, and it's not going to pay or itself.
Of course they say it would be nice to have it ported to Linux
but economically it just doesn't make sense. 
I would expect to see CAM soft being ported to Linux faster
because of computation power needs where Beowulf cluster would fit 
really nice. I know there is a few companies working on it right now,
but it takes time.
If you are really interested in porting some software to Linux go visit
www.platform.com and let them know.

Marcin Kurc
CAD Systems Administrator
Cooper-Standard Automotive 

-Original Message-
From: Juari Ritter Müller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 11:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: AutoCAD (or similar) for Debian/Linux?

I agree. GNU/Linux should be respected and suported by the big
softwarehouses.

On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 10:36:10PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> There are a number of Linux CAD apps that support AutoCAD dwg files...the
free
> ones that I tried I found rather rudimentary (just the basic CAD stuff).
I
> imagine the ones that cost $$ may be better.
> 
> In order to run AutoCAD 2000, I broke down and installed Windows (AutoCAD
being
> one of my main reasons, although not my only reason).
> 
> Someday I look forward to a world where all apps are available on Linux
> natively.  AutoCAD really should look into having a Linux version--after
all
> R11 was on UNIX as well.  (BTW, anyone ever try to port that one over???)
> 

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Re: exim and printer second try

2002-02-28 Thread Joachim Fahnenmueller

Dear Paul, 

do you have lpr installed? Check the following commands, the output should be 
similar to mine:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ which lpr
/usr/bin/lpr

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -s lpr
Package: lpr
Status: hold ok installed
Priority: standard
Section: net
(...)

If not: apt-get install lpr .

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Re: question about ifup and ifconfig

2002-02-28 Thread David Z Maze

Ren Weili <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>   what is the diference between ifup and ifconfig?

ifconfig is a low-level tool you can use to bring an interface up or
down, set its address/netmask/broadcast address, etc.  ifup/ifdown are
higher-level tools that parse /etc/network/interfaces and run ifconfig
(and possibly other things) based on that.

>   how can ifconfig bring up eth0 use dhcp?

It can't.  ifup can, given a correct stanza in
/etc/network/interfaces.  You can use ifconfig to bring up eth0 with
no address, and then use a DHCP client separately.  But you almost
certainly want to have the one line in /etc/network/interfaces that
does this for you; see interfaces(5) and ifup(8) for details.

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Re: rdesktop error

2002-02-28 Thread Curtis Vaughan

you need to at least provide the IP address of your server; i.e.:
./rdesktop 10.0.0.1

However, whereas i prefer the full desktop, I include the option -i; i.e.:
./rdesktop -f 10.0.0.1

Due to a licensing issue that has arisen in my environment, however, I now 
have to include the -n option; i.e.:

./rdesktop -u curtis -f 10.0.0.1

Best of luck.

On Thursday 28 February 2002 05:32 am, you wrote:
> hi,
>
> i just downloaded rdesktop-1.1.0.  Extracted it, and run 'make'.
> but i encountered the error below when i run "./rdesktop"
> can anyone explain what the error means and what direction
> i should take to make it work.  i am running rh7.2.  thanks.
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] rdesktop-1.1.0]# ./rdesktop
> rdesktop: A Remote Desktop Protocol client.
> Version 1.1.0. Copyright (C) 1999-2001 Matt Chapman.
> See http://www.rdesktop.org/ for more information.
>
> Usage: ./rdesktop [options] server
>-u: user name
>-d: domain
>-s: shell
>-c: working directory
>-p: password (autologon)
>-n: client hostname
>-k: keyboard layout (hex)
>-g: desktop geometry (WxH)
>-f: full-screen mode
>-b: force bitmap updates
>-e: disable encryption (French TS)
>-m: do not send motion events
>-l: do not request licence
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] rdesktop-1.1.0]# ./rdesktop 192.168.0.1
> rdesktop: A Remote Desktop Protocol client.
> Version 1.1.0. Copyright (C) 1999-2001 Matt Chapman.
> See http://www.rdesktop.org/ for more information.
>
> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
> Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
> ERROR: Failed to open display
> ERROR: send: Socket operation on non-socket

Re: SiS 6263 PCI card setup

2002-02-28 Thread Mark Janssen

Sorry, this mail got delayed...

On Thu, 2002-02-28 at 15:44, David Shepherd wrote: 
> I need some help setting up a SiS 6236 PCI graphics card on my elderly Potato 
> box.  
> Has anyone got one of these working with XFree 3.3.6?
> 
> I want to know if its possible to change the IRQ that the SiS card is using.
> Currently its using IRQ 11 which conflicts with my RealTek 8029 NIC 
> (which also wants to use IRQ 11).
> 
> Alternatively I could change the IRQ that the RealTek card uses, 
> do I specify this as a LILO parameter at bootup?
I've had a machine with had a 6236 onboard. The best thing you can do 
is plug the realtek into another pci slot. That will change the IRQ
automatically. It's probably shared between the port it's in now and the
agp/pci slot the video-chip is in. 

I don't remember having any big problems getting the sis working back
then (Not so much as I had with the sis630 i'm using on my laptop now) 

Maniac

Re: Fresh install no network

2002-02-28 Thread Sebastiaan

High,

On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, Harry Putnam wrote:

> I had hoped the install routine would find my nic and know what to
> load but as I went thru the initial install, it wasn't found.  Any
> attempt to select something from the module list for net, failed.
>
> I'm not real sure what card is in there but its one of the commaon
> 3com cards.  I had hoped some kind of probe would find it and I
> wouldn't have to tear things up to find my original box etc. or open
> the case to get it.  This case is in a inconvenient spot.
>
Most 3com cards are supported, but you have to load the driver yourself.
Best way is to look what the card says. Then start 'modconf' as root, and
browse to the network card interfaces.

Note: the 3c905 series need the 3c59x driver to get to work.


> I'm at the stage now where the initial system is intalled and I've
> rebooted ... setting at the config screen for basic stuff.
>
> What is the best way, with least hair pulling to get the nic setup?
> I'll check dmesg once bootup is complete.
>
to check if the driver loaded succesfully, type:
lsmod   to see if the module is loaded correctly
ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up  to give the card
an ip. If all works correct (i.e. you can ping other hosts in your
network), edit /etc/network/interfaces (man interfaces) to automize these
settings.

> I can dig up the exact info on my hardware but it will be some serious
> digging and I'd sooner avoid spending the time on that.
>
because there is little to none auto hardware detection in Debian, looking
on the chip or card is usually the best way to figure out what kind of
hardware it is.

Greetz,
Sebastiaan


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>
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Re: exim and printer second try

2002-02-28 Thread paul

Yes lpr is installed.
thank you
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Re: Enough time wasted, moving on

2002-02-28 Thread p

On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 09:38:20AM -0800, Harry Putnam wrote:
> Anyone who wants the official 6 CD set of woody 3.0
> Can send me an address privately.  First one I get in my inbox with
> snailmail address will get the cds mailed to them.
> 
> I've burned up 2 full days, gotten no help whatever from the list.
> Found the install routines to be unusable.
> 
> All I hear from Woody is `can't won't or doesn't'  And this on a
> machine that has had 2 flavors of linux, 2 of the BSDs and Solaris
> (intel) install successfully.  Hardware recognized etc.
> 
> My nic is not found, X doesn't run, I get a message after the install
> that there were errors during install.  Please fix the errors
> mentioned above... none are mentioned.  I've tried the simplicity of
> Tasksel and the labor instensive dselect hell, 3 fullbore tries at
> installing.
> 
> I have a non-functional system at the end of 2 days.
> When I see things so basic like the names referred to when the
> different cds are requested during package install.  The names the
> routine asks for are nowhere on my CDs.  Not that hard to see what is
> really meant but only because I'm already familiar with some of the
> lingo.
> 
> Maybe I got hoodwinked getting them from `The sphere'
> 
> When I see things like that gauranteed to cause confusion, I know that
> at the Debian organization someone is asleep at the switch.  And can
> rest assured that I will be in for lots of unnecessary grief caused by
> `loose' organization and homeboy packaging.
> 
> One has to think, what else is poorly done here.
> 
> But then again for someone who enjoys major unnecessary tinkering. 
> Relentless `fixes' and the like,  Here is a chance to get a setup that
> will keep you busy for a long time, and absolutely free.  I'll pay the
> postage too.
> 
> Maybe I should have tried the released version, but something about
> the name `potato' puts one in mind of a large overweight weak
> vegetable lying on a couch.
> 
> At least `woody' sounded.. well  erect :-)
> 
> 
//


"...asleep at the switch" and "...homeboy packaging":  man, woody 
really tore you up.  (but it's just something that's in "testing" 
mode though, right?)

i used to be hung up by the debian distribution names, especially 
since i've never seen toy story, but i figure that until i
create my own linux distribution, "potato" ("ham," "slink," "woody" 
or whatever) sounds pretty darn good to me.

b.

(running "potato," and waiting for "woody" when it's officially 
released.)
//

Re: Configuring locales

2002-02-28 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry


On 28-Feb-2002 Harry Putnam wrote:
> "Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> 
>>> I have no special foreign language requirements and am a native
>>> enlglish speaker.  Do I need to select the english ones?
>>> 
>>
>> Everything will work fine for English speakers.  If you want to add a locale
>> later look at /etc/locale.gen and related docs (it will point you to them).
> 
> Thanks Sean, for your helpful reply.
> I'm sorry to say that I've found so many problems with my three
> attempts at installing woody 3.0, and found a number of things that
> seem to indicate a serious waste of time in store for me, that I've
> thrown in the towel and am offering anyone who wants them the 6 cd set
> of woody 3.0.
> 

Well, thanks for playing (-:

Re: Enough time wasted, moving on

2002-02-28 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

On 28-Feb-2002 Harry Putnam wrote:
> Anyone who wants the official 6 CD set of woody 3.0
> Can send me an address privately.  First one I get in my inbox with
> snailmail address will get the cds mailed to them.
> 

If you could send a more detailed explanation to me I will forward it on to the
other developers so when woody is released we have less issues like yours.

Re: Galeon and Nautilus stopped working

2002-02-28 Thread Paper

Exactly same problem here! I didn't investigate too much but at the
moment I don't have any clue :(

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Re: exim and printer answers

2002-02-28 Thread Carel Fellinger

On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 08:45:20AM -0800, paul wrote:
> pritner is hp  laserjet 4 plus or hplaserjet4plus
> with no postscript.There is ghostscript installed

Okee, then you need a filter that turns postcript into PCL using ghostscript...

> > of it to your next post?  The file I refer to is:
> > 
> > /etc/magicfilter/hp4000t-filter

...so the above file is not the one you need!
In /etc/printcap change it to:

/etc/magicfilter/ljet4-filter

And check that that file exists with:

# ls /etc/magicfilter/ljet4-filter

* Checking the printer device *

> > > Commands:
> > > cat filename > /dev/lp0 
> > > works but no cr or lf

So `cat filename > /dev/lp0' still works?
But the following failed?  Strange.

> > # cat << EOF > /dev/lp0
> > > a very short line
> > > a second line
> > > a final line
> > > << EOF

Then try:
# cat << EOF > /tmp/short
a very short line
a second line
a final line
EOF

This should create a short file named /tmp/short, check it with:
# cat /tmp/short

And next try to print it with

# cat /tmp/short >/dev/lp0

> > This should produce output like:
> > 
> > a very short line
> >  a second line
> >   a final line

And see what happens:)

 Checking the printer daemon 

> ># ps ax | grep lp
> > 
> > There should be a line with `lpd' in it.
> 
> /usr/sbin/lpd

Okee, so you have a printer daemon, that's the program other programs
normally ask to take care of the printing.

 Exim intermezzo 

> > > files commented:
> > > /etc/exim.conf
> > > /etc/mailname
> > 
> > I really don't understand what you mean with `file
> > commented'.
> > Please be more specific.
> > Commented refers to putting a "#" mark. In this case
> the tech changed the names and gave them ff extetion
> which makes it easy to find

Okee, now I understand.  Stupid tech-man, both files are needed
so better move them back in place:

# cd /etc
# mv exim.conf.ff exim.conf
# mv mailname.ff mailname

To prevent exim sending mail to your ips we need to reconfigure exim.
Better start a new thread (that's a series of email/news exchanges all
with the same subject) and post a new email with a subject like

   Subject: Exim sending printjobs to my IPS

and ask for help reconfiguring exim. I'll lookout for it, and probably
others will join in that discussion.

For the discuccion at hand in this thread, it would be nice if you
could share the message send to your ips, or at least the bounced
message.

> > And if so, it just means your email isn't set up
> > properly either.
> > Can you send email locally from one user to an other
> > on your own
> > machine? 
> Yes netscape mail works and Kmail works. No other
> programs installed at present.

Those two programs probably take care of email to/from the web.
Local mail is a different thing.  But let's discuss that in the
thread titled:   Exim sending printjobs to my IPS

 Checking the printer package 

> ># dpkg -s lpr | head -n 2
> lpr installed ok
> 
> ># dpkg -s lprng | head -n 2
> npring not installed
> 
> ># dpkg -s magicfilter | head -n 2
> installed ok
> 
> ># dpkg -s cups | head -n 2
> not installed
> 
> ># dpkg -s cupssys | head -n 2
> not installed

...Okee so you have BSD like lpd installed and magicfilter.
Magicfilter wasn't installed correctly.  Wait, don't uninstall it,
but instead change /etc/printcap as I outlined above.  So just
change the name `hp4000t-filter' to `ljet4-filter'.

The next thing to know is whether lpd was installed correctly. Atleast
there should be a command called `lp', check whether it is there with:

# type lp

This should tell you where the `lp' program is located.
[ Other printer packages use `lpr', but IIRQ BSD uses `lp' ]

> I hope this gives some clues.

It takes time, but we're closing in:)

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Potato default and ip_always_defrag=0

2002-02-28 Thread Xeno Campanoli

If the "ip_always_defrag" is in my /proc/sys/net/ipv4 directory, and the
value is "0", that means the facility is in the Kernel or available as a
module and I just need to turn it on with echo
"1">/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_always_defrag, right?
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Re: The Custom Kernel that Wouldn't Boot.

2002-02-28 Thread Dimitri Maziuk

* Timothy R. Butler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> Hi Dima,
> > Of course, if it refuses to boot without fb, the problem is
> > somewhere else.
>  
>   It seems to refuse to boot even without fb. :-( As with the last kernel, I 
> get the following in kern.log:
> 
> ---
> Feb 28 11:59:21 dellbert kernel: PCI: Found IRQ 9 for device 00:10.0
> Feb 28 11:59:21 dellbert kernel: PCI: Sharing IRQ 9 with 00:07.2
> Feb 28 11:59:24 dellbert kernel: Kernel logging (proc) stopped.
> Feb 28 11:59:24 dellbert kernel: Kernel log daemon terminating.
> ---

On my box I get a message from 3c59x after "PCI:" ones.

>   Any ideas what I might be selecting wrong? 

NIC driver? But no, not really. There are too many things
you might (or might not) be selecting wrong.

...Is it that I'm doing something 
> wrong with initrd? 

I wouldn't know, I don't remember using initrd in home-built
kernels, ever.

...Perhaps it's the fact that it's 686 optimized?

Well, that should be backwards-compatible: if you optimize
for 686 and run on a 586, you may have a problem, but other 
way around should work (and usually does). 

So, to make sure, compile for 386. If you're using menuconfig,
select "Help" on processor type while you're there, and read it.

Dima

Re: Neighbor table overflow.. what does it mean

2002-02-28 Thread Jason M. Harvey

On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 07:28:08AM -0800, Harry Putnam wrote:
| After initial install of woody 3.0, at the beginning of basic
| configuration with nothing but the basic system installed.  Upon
| aswering yes that I am ready to configure  this message is printed to
| screen: 
| 
| Neighbor overflow table
| 
| Sounds rather ominous.
| 
| Dmesg shows this output:
|[...]
|PCI routing table Version 1.0 at Oxf1690
|Intel ISA/PCI/Cardbus PCIC Probe
|no bridges found
|   ds: No Socket drivers loaded 
|   
|   Neighbor overflow table 
| 
| What is the problem here?
| 
| 

hello,

my mom had that probelm. look into /etc/network/interfaces (see also
'man interfaces') and make sure you have the loopback (lo) interface in
there. my interfaces file has the following two lines about the
loopback:

auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

try that, and let us know if you still have trouble.
jason

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Re: woody - no installation candidate..

2002-02-28 Thread Bob Thibodeau

try mysql-server and mysql-client

use apt-cache search mysql to see the possibilities

Bob

On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 03:04:11PM +1100, Ross Tsolakidis wrote:
>Hi all,
> 
>I've noticed that ever since I have upgraded to woody, a lot of packages
>aren't available to be installed.
>Such as, mysql.
>Package mysql has no installation candidate.
> 
>Is this an issue with woody, is there a way I can resolve it ?
> 
>Thanks :)
> 
>--
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Re: Enough time wasted, moving on

Harry, 
  I'm curious what kind of problems you are having specifically. I did a 
netinst install of Woody two weeks ago, with absoutely no prior Debian 
experience, and I was able to get a working system in about two days (less if 
I had known what I've found out now).
  This is a lot more work than Mandrake or SuSE, but honestly my system is 
running better too...

  How did you setup X? Did you try running "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86"?

  -Tim

On Thursday 28 February 2002 11:38 am, Harry Putnam wrote:
> Anyone who wants the official 6 CD set of woody 3.0
> Can send me an address privately.  First one I get in my inbox with
> snailmail address will get the cds mailed to them.
>
> I've burned up 2 full days, gotten no help whatever from the list.
> Found the install routines to be unusable.
>
> All I hear from Woody is `can't won't or doesn't'  And this on a
> machine that has had 2 flavors of linux, 2 of the BSDs and Solaris
> (intel) install successfully.  Hardware recognized etc.
>
> My nic is not found, X doesn't run, I get a message after the install
> that there were errors during install.  Please fix the errors
> mentioned above... none are mentioned.  I've tried the simplicity of
> Tasksel and the labor instensive dselect hell, 3 fullbore tries at
> installing.
>
> I have a non-functional system at the end of 2 days.
> When I see things so basic like the names referred to when the
> different cds are requested during package install.  The names the
> routine asks for are nowhere on my CDs.  Not that hard to see what is
> really meant but only because I'm already familiar with some of the
> lingo.
>
> Maybe I got hoodwinked getting them from `The sphere'
>
> When I see things like that gauranteed to cause confusion, I know that
> at the Debian organization someone is asleep at the switch.  And can
> rest assured that I will be in for lots of unnecessary grief caused by
> `loose' organization and homeboy packaging.
>
> One has to think, what else is poorly done here.
>
> But then again for someone who enjoys major unnecessary tinkering.
> Relentless `fixes' and the like,  Here is a chance to get a setup that
> will keep you busy for a long time, and absolutely free.  I'll pay the
> postage too.
>
> Maybe I should have tried the released version, but something about
> the name `potato' puts one in mind of a large overweight weak
> vegetable lying on a couch.
>
> At least `woody' sounded.. well  erect :-)

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