Re: A RH package won't work on Debian

2001-11-10 Thread Paul Smith
%% Paul 'Baloo' Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Thanks for the note...

  pj> On 9 Nov 2001, Paul Smith wrote:
  >> Subject: A RH package won't work on Debian

  pj> This is normal.  It's a bug on Red Hat's side, as RH packages rarely
  pj> work right on RH.

Hey, you're preaching to the converted (for a few years now), but
unfortunately that's not helping me fix my problem.

Plus, it works on Mandrake (which I know is close to RH) and also SuSe,
which is not that close.  Debian is the only distro we've tried that it
_doesn't_ work on.

Further, this same client works on RH 6.2, 7.0, and 7.1, so it's not
just tied to one particular version or kernel or libc or whatever, even
on Red Hat.

  >> I borrowed a laptop with vanilla RH 6.2, and brought it home, and
  >> it works fine.  Also if I boot my system into Windows and use the
  >> Windows version of the VPN client, that works fine.  I can even
  >> open up a Windows session in VMWare on my Linux system and use the
  >> Windows client through that, and _that_ works!

  pj> They probably have it compiled in some different version of
  pj> whatever libraries it uses than you use.  Or it's being anal
  pj> retentive and only going by the (brain-damaged) Red Hat locations
  pj> for files from other packages it depends on.

ldd shows that one user app links with libnsl, libdl, and libc, while
the other links with libpthread, libnsl, libdl, and libc.  That's it.

These are all part of the standard libc package.  RH ships with
different libc's from 2.1.3 (RH 6.2) to 2.2.2 (RH 7.1).  I'm using libc
2.2.4 like a good tester should, but I've also installed an old 2.1.3
and configured the user apps to use that instead of the default libc;
the behavior is identical (seems to work completely, but can't connect
to any hosts).

There are no file location issues (or at least I can't see how there
could be).  There are no errors printed about missing files or
executables, and these things are self-contained anyway.

I've delt with all that stuff before (I run ClearCase on my Debian
box--that takes a little tweaking), but this is different.  I just can't
figure it out.

  >> I know it's an almost impossible long shot, but maybe someone here
  >> can give me some ideas of what to try or where to look?

  pj> I know that problem sometimes develops on Windows boxen when AIM,
  pj> YIM, AOL, Morpheus, or pretty much any other POS program decides
  pj> to screw with the winsocks, but that can't happen here...

I don't use any of that: I'm talking simple HTTP, Telnet, SSH,
etc. connections don't work!

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Re: debootstrap

2001-11-10 Thread Michael Heldebrant
On Fri, 2001-11-09 at 19:34, Tom Allison wrote:
> Where can I find LOTS of documentation on this debootstrap program?
> It seems that this is being used to replace the old base*.tgz files that 
> I'm so familiar with.
> 
> I'm trying to figure out how to do a remote installation with near zero 
> direct access to a computer and this might simplify things a lot.
> 
> how does it work?

After wrestling with it just today myself (see debian-beowulf for more
on this subject because I want to do the exact same thing) I found out
it's actually quite easy to use for setting up a chrootable live system
inside of a currently running system (though I'm sure it can do more).

just run:

debootstrap dist /target/dir http://http.us.debian.org/debian

where dist = woody sid potato (not stable unstable ... that didn't work
for me)

/target/dir is wherever you want it to land and the http (or ftp) site
your favorite mirror.  Works like a charm.


--mike



tar and '-p' option

2001-11-10 Thread Lance Hoffmeyer
When backing up directories do I need the -p
option to save file attributes, ownership...
or do I use -p during restore to do this, OR
do I not need -p and it is done by default?

I don't really understand this option and I
want to make sure that if I have to recover
a filesystem that when I untar everything is
not set with the root permissions and ownership.

Lance



tar split into 650M sizes

2001-11-10 Thread Lance Hoffmeyer
Is there a way to run tar on a direcory that is 2Gig
and have tar create multiple file that are 650M each?

Yes, I am trying to create a CD backup.  None of the
programs I have seen create 650M tarballs.  They all
go directly to multiple CD's.  I would like to create
the multiple ISO's first.  The directory is on a nfs
mounted share so I don't want my entire / just 
/mnt/shared/pub which is 3Gig in size.

Lance



problem with gnome (mouse can not move)

2001-11-10 Thread wqh
   I install wooody,at the beginning, I install the base system
and then I use base-config to let it install others aumatically,
but after download 330M files, it said something was wrong,and can not
finished it aumatically.Then I use dpkg -i * to install all the package
whick are possible to install rightly.
   when I use command "xinit" it said that "no screen found"
But when I input startx,the GNOME beginning to startx.it is very slow,
and I can see  the "UWM menu" and "Application menu",after
GNOME is running,I can not move the mouse,what is the problem,
is it a problem of xfr86cinfig?
  thanks 




  


Re: intrusion detection / logfile reporter

2001-11-10 Thread Alvin Oga

hi timo

i like to ask more detailed stuff...

here's some simpler answers...
- as others have said, download and install logcheck or equivalent

-- Debian security howto
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/

-- patch your kernel 
- add libsafe, ow1, etc

http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Harden/kernel.gwif.html

-- to detect incoming email virus
http://www.Linux-Sec.net/server.gwif.html#Mail

-- to detect that a script kiddie added some files to your maohines
   or modified your system
run tripwire, aide, etc
do your own checksums, md5 on files oyu care about

http://www.Linux-Sec.net/IDS/

-- to detect that a script kiddies is scanning your ports
run snort, ippl, etc

http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Scanner

-- audit your server for vulnerabilities 
( at least take a minute and do the simple stuff
run nmap,nessus

http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Audit/

-- running log file anaysis is nice...but remember that most script
   kiddies will erase traces of their attacks from the log files
- send all logs to a secure loghost server

-- to detect that someone has logged in as root
send yourself email from ~root/.login

-- More server and network security hardening

http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Harden/

-- lots of fun stuff...


have fun linuxing
alvin
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On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Timo  Boewing wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> I have some questions regarding system security. Besides of doing 
> filtering with IP tables, disabling inet.d services like telnet, r-tools 
> etc. and setting some general denials in /etc/hosts.deny (plus some 
> other stuff like changing default ports of some demons like sshd), I am 
> looking for some additional security options I can apply to a linux system.
> 
> Especially, I am looking for a not-too-paranoid-to-setup-tool that can 
> review my logfiles and report me via beep and/or local mail that it 
> found something unusual in a log. Does anyone know of such a tool?
> 
> Second, as a more theoretical question, is there any open source project 
> available that can inspect network packages on application level, e.g. 
> to detect virusses etc. (like sandboxes on huge firewall systems).
> 
> 
> I hope not to mix some termini, cos I am not that good in this network 
> stuff...but I hope to learn from your answers. So do not hesitate to 
> post answers 8^).
> 
> Greetings and have a nice weekend,
> 
> Timo
> 
> 
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Problem in my CD-Roms

2001-11-10 Thread Ali sasani

Dear technicians of Site,
Hello, I hope you have the great time. I want to ask questions about my 
corrupt CD-ROMS. I hope you help me.
In fact our four number of CD-ROM   were corrupted and I don’t know how to 
repair them. I contact with the manufacturer of products but they said me 
that the dealers should be repairing them but they don’t know anything about 
repairing. I research and couldn’t understand their problem and neither 
could they.
Would you please help me to repairing them? The CD-ROM connects to SCSSII 
Controller and I sure that the SCSII cards are correct. The system whether 
didn’t find the CD-ROM or the LED of Drives light forever. Can I solve these 
problems with your help or not?

I wait to receive your recommends and your guidance.
With the best wishes,
 Ali


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Re: CR/LF

2001-11-10 Thread Vineet Kumar
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011109 18:13]:

why switch? how about:

> #include 
> 
> int main()
> {
> char ch;
> 
> while(!cin.eof() ){
> cin.get(ch);
  if(ch != '\r') {
  cout << ch;
  }
> }
> 
> return 0;
> }

(see also /usr/bin/tr for a more general and already-written solution)

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Re: Is it possible to install a few testing packages on a stable machine?

2001-11-10 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 09:31:19PM -0600, Colin Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 02:31:29PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> > on Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 03:15:44PM -0500, Stan Brown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
> > wrote:
> > > I'm trying to get abcde to work. Turns out that the version I have
> > > (from progen) is broken. The developers of this package say the
> > > version in testing is fine. Probelm is it depends on one more
> > > package from testing.
> > 
> > File a bug report against stable.
> 
> That depends on how broken it is. Unless it's totally and utterly
> screwed to the point where it's nothing but a waste of space, stable
> won't be updated at this point, so filing bugs you know to be fixed in
> testing doesn't really help.

Filing a bug is still probably the right first step.  The maintainer can
decide (and the bug filer appeal) the severity of the issue.  Without
the bug report, there's no communication of the issue.

Peace.

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Re: mozilla 0.9.5 on sid

2001-11-10 Thread Marc Wilson
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 05:06:26PM -0800, Charles Baker wrote:
> When I start mozilla 0.9.5 on sid I get an error
> "Cannot create browser instance"

Move your ~/.mozilla directory somewhere else and let Moz recreate it.  I
bet it works now.

Do you use something other than one of the pre-packaged skins?

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Re: mozilla 0.9.5 on sid

2001-11-10 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Ian Patrick Thomas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011109 21:56]:
> On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 09:45:08PM -0500, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 08:09:24PM -0500, Jason Wojciechowski wrote:
> > > 
> > > This is the error that finally drove me back to Galeon... I found that I
> > > loved it.  If you can't fix it or something, give it a shot, though
> > > it'll require installing a bunch of gnome libraries just for that app, I
> > > think it's worth it if you have the space.
> > 
> > I get no such errors from 0.9.5 and Sid, but I'm not using the .deb. I
> > grabbed the binary tarball and installed it in my home directory. I have 
> > found
> > that the mozilla and netscape packages in Debian never got along, so I don't
> > use the mozilla .debs. Maybe when they're packaged better. 
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> > -- 
> > Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, GnuPG pub key: 5BC8BE08
> > "...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount
> > of nerd-like effort."  -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to Unix
>   I'm using the .deb from testing with absolutely no problem.  I
> believe that I ran an apt-get dist-upgrade to unstable(sid) and then did an
> apt-get install mozilla.  I also installed the psm .deb.  From what I've
> experienced so far, 0.9.5 is pretty fast.  Not as fast as it is on Mac OS
> X, but fast.
>   On an unrelated note, unstable has proven to be pretty stable.  I
> also use FreeBSD quite a bit and Debian is the only GNU/Linux distro that
> seems to run as smoothly.  If I could find a way to get apt/dpkg to tell me
> each .deb I have installed like pkg_info on FreeBSD does, I would say both
> OS's would be about equal in greatness.

what, like `dpkg -l | grep "^i"` ?

If it's something else you mean, just ask; I'm sure it's possible.

good times,

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Re: tar split into 650M sizes

2001-11-10 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 01:32:57AM -0600, Lance Hoffmeyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> Is there a way to run tar on a direcory that is 2Gig and have tar
> create multiple file that are 650M each?
> 
> Yes, I am trying to create a CD backup.  None of the programs I have
> seen create 650M tarballs.  They all go directly to multiple CD's.  I
> would like to create the multiple ISO's first.  The directory is on a
> nfs mounted share so I don't want my entire / just /mnt/shared/pub
> which is 3Gig in size.

Not tar per se, but you might be able to do this with 'split'.  You'll
have to reassemble the pieces afterwards:

tar czvf - source | split -b 650m tarpiece-

...should create files tarpiece-aa tarpiece-ab tarpiece-ac...

To reassemble, copy to disk, then:

cat tarpiece-* > file.tar.gz 

...will reassemble the tarfile.

Peace.

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Re: mailcap format code

2001-11-10 Thread Brian Nelson
ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> on loading netscape, i get the following message: 
> 
> Ignoring unsupported format code in mailcap file: %{
> 
> i've checked the mailcap man page, which suggests that format codes
> begin with %{ are part of the scheme of things, and i've also checked
> the mailcap file itself for any stray, unenclosed instance of %{, but
> there are none. 
> 
> does anybody know what this is about and how to resolve it?

Old bug in netscape...  Use mozilla|galeon|konqueror|etc. instead.

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Re: True Type Fonts on Potato

2001-11-10 Thread Erik van der Meulen
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 12:39:58 +0100, Ville Uski wrote:

> * Erik van der Meulen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011109 12:10]:
> > Than I went through the archives for Debian specific information and
> > came across a pointer to a Debian TrueType Mini-Howto. Unfortunately
> > I was unable to find such a document on the site.
> > 
> > Any advice or pointer would be much appreciated!
> 
> it's in linuxdoc.org, at least.
> 
> http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/TT-Debian.html

Thanks a lot, that did help!
Now, does someone have a suggestion what fonts to specify in
the Mozilla Preference? Currently it lists Adobe fonts.

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Audio-CD not readable

2001-11-10 Thread Angel Parra

Hello!!
k
I have some audio-cd's that can`t be readed on my CD-reader (and I think 
that in no one) This CD's are the new "anti-copy" tecnique. I nearly 
sure that the secret off the anticopy is to pot wrong CRC on fisical 
media, on some samples. Of course the discograpic give you a player, for 
windos, and what happend with linux, os/2, mac ...??


	My question. I have a IDE CD-reader and a IDE CD-recorder, with ICSI 
emulation. Wher can I find inside kernel (version 2.2.20) the CRC check 
for audio/data CD's, I will wanth to switch it off and check if it's 
posible to read the "bad CD". Or if you have any other idea or know aout 
ani cd-player that suports this kind of CD`s?


Thank you for all


Angel Parra

Please answer with copy to my address, I not a subscriber!



Re: Backspace is delete

2001-11-10 Thread Michael Robinson
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>You should probably read /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz. Search
>for "Why doesn't my backspace, delete, or some other key work?". It's
>possible you've got too many uses of xmodmap and .Xresources
>*Translations - backspace and delete *should* work correctly out of the
>box now.

Thank you.  Unfortunately, the author of the FAQ offers a polemical diatribe
supporting one side of a religious debate, rather than a solution to my
problem (which would lie on the opposing side of said debate):

  At some point over the
  years, some misguided people assumed that, for this key, the key engraving
  should correspond to a similarly named ASCII code; namely, ASCII 8 or "BS"
  (backspace).  This was extremely imprudent because user expectations are
  what matter, not the enforcement of some kind of mapping between ASCII and
  key engravings on non-glyph keys.  For instance, ASCII does not address the
  notion of function keys; indeed, most of the first thirty-two codes in
  ASCII are only weakly applicable to terminals in the post-teletype age, let
  alone microcomputers that aren't even terminals at all.  Bottom line: the
  "backspace" key, the one in the upper-right of the alphabetic section,
  should generate ASCII 127 ("DEL") if a DEC VT-series terminal is being
  emulated.  End of story.  No exceptions.  Both the Linux console driver and
  xterm explicitly emulate DEC VT-series terminals, so the consequences for
  the backspace key should be clear.  The real tragedy is that at some
  point, the misconception discussed crept into termcap and terminfo data for
  xterms, and people got used to the backspace key (engraved with "Delete" on
  VT terminals, Macintoshes, and some other keyboards) generating ASCII 8 (or
  control-H) instead of ASCII 127 (or control-?), in flagrant incompatibility
  with every DEC VT terminal ever made, one model of which (the VT100) xterm
  was expressly written to emulate from its very inception in 1984.  The good
  news is, Tom Dickey, the upstream xterm maintainer, is taking steps to move
  everybody back to the Good Side of the Force with XFree86 4.0.  Debian's
  Keyboard Policy has anticipated that move.  So, if people do things
  correctly, there is no incompatibility between the Linux console and xterm.

I won't go into all the historical distortions, mischaracterizations and
outright errors presented above.  I'll simply note that it's my computer,
and I would prefer that it behave the way I intend it to, to the fullest
extent possible.

And, in this instance, the intent is that Backspace produce a backspace and
Delete produce a delete.  An Xresources example to accomplish this end would
be helpful, should one exist.

-Michael Robinson



run dselect for remote machine (nfs+chroot?)

2001-11-10 Thread Osamu Aoki
I have slow 486DX2 (20MB) running woody as router.

I realize memory swaps out frequently when I run dselect.

I wonder if I have a way to run dselect from my faster memory rich
machine.

nfs+chroot came to my mind as possiblility.

Anyone have experience/opinion?

Osamu
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Re: Problem in my CD-Roms

2001-11-10 Thread Sebastiaan
High,

On Sat, 10 Nov 2001, Ali sasani wrote:

> Dear technicians of Site,
> Hello, I hope you have the great time. I want to ask questions about my 
> corrupt CD-ROMS. I hope you help me.
> In fact our four number of CD-ROM   were corrupted and I don’t know how to 
> repair them. I contact with the manufacturer of products but they said me 
> that the dealers should be repairing them but they don’t know anything about 
> repairing. I research and couldn’t understand their problem and neither 
> could they.
> Would you please help me to repairing them? The CD-ROM connects to SCSSII 
> Controller and I sure that the SCSII cards are correct. The system whether 
> didn’t find the CD-ROM or the LED of Drives light forever. Can I solve these 
> problems with your help or not?
> I wait to receive your recommends and your guidance.
How were the drives corrupted? How do you check if the system detects the
drives on the SCSI card (the BIOS, or do you have to load the SCSI driver
by hand)? Try to connect one drive per SCSI bus at a time, to be sure
jumpers and termination is set correctly. Check the drive for jumpers
regarding termination/id/etc. Old drives require termination by three
3/4/5 pins wide resistors. Check if you could find them or a place where
they sould be.

If it still does not work, the drive could be corrupt, but I do not think
you are able to repair it yourself (if it is repairable at all). These
days it is cheaper to buy a new drive in stead of repairing.

Succes,
Sebastiaan




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portmap nfs/rpc ports?

2001-11-10 Thread Igor Mozetic
Can one specify/restrict the range of high numbered ports used
by portmapper for nfs?

I'm aware of /etc/sysctl.conf:
net.ipv4.ip_local_port_range = MIN MAX
but I would like to force the portmapper to use ports _outside_
this range in order to close them by a (non-stateful) firewall.

Please CC to me.
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Re: debootstrap

2001-11-10 Thread Tom Allison

Michael Heldebrant wrote:


On Fri, 2001-11-09 at 19:34, Tom Allison wrote:


Where can I find LOTS of documentation on this debootstrap program?
It seems that this is being used to replace the old base*.tgz files that 
I'm so familiar with.


I'm trying to figure out how to do a remote installation with near zero 
direct access to a computer and this might simplify things a lot.


how does it work?



After wrestling with it just today myself (see debian-beowulf for more
on this subject because I want to do the exact same thing) I found out
it's actually quite easy to use for setting up a chrootable live system
inside of a currently running system (though I'm sure it can do more).

just run:

debootstrap dist /target/dir http://http.us.debian.org/debian

where dist = woody sid potato (not stable unstable ... that didn't work
for me)

/target/dir is wherever you want it to land and the http (or ftp) site
your favorite mirror.  Works like a charm.


--mike





Do you think that I could do this from a floppy like the 
LinuxRouterProject?  Or some other linux mini-distro?  Or does this have 
to be a mini-debian distro?


Where I get into trouble (I think) is that in the congifiguration 
process, there is an option to pull up the network information and set 
up the modules.  I will already have the modules loaded into RAM since 
I'll be accessing the PC via ssh from across the country.


Right now, my best alternative is to download the base2_2.tgz file and 
unzip that all over the hard drive.  But I'm having trouble finding out 
what I would have to run after that to finish the installation...


I kind of have to do everything the debian installation is designed to 
do, but manually as I won't be accessing a tty anywhere in the process.




Re: intrusion detection / logfile reporter

2001-11-10 Thread Timo Boewing



 Original Message 
Subject: Re: intrusion detection / logfile reporter
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 00:24:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Timo  Boewing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: "Debian User (en)" 


hi timo

i like to ask more detailed stuff...

here's some simpler answers...
- as others have said, download and install logcheck or equivalent

-- Debian security howto
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/

-- patch your kernel
- add libsafe, ow1, etc

http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Harden/kernel.gwif.html

-- to detect incoming email virus
http://www.Linux-Sec.net/server.gwif.html#Mail

-- to detect that a script kiddie added some files to your maohines
   or modified your system
run tripwire, aide, etc
do your own checksums, md5 on files oyu care about

http://www.Linux-Sec.net/IDS/

-- to detect that a script kiddies is scanning your ports
run snort, ippl, etc

http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Scanner

-- audit your server for vulnerabilities
( at least take a minute and do the simple stuff
run nmap,nessus

http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Audit/

-- running log file anaysis is nice...but remember that most script
   kiddies will erase traces of their attacks from the log files
- send all logs to a secure loghost server

-- to detect that someone has logged in as root
send yourself email from ~root/.login

-- More server and network security hardening

http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Harden/

-- lots of fun stuff...


have fun linuxing
alvin
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On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Timo  Boewing wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I have some questions regarding system security. Besides of doing
> filtering with IP tables, disabling inet.d services like telnet, r-tools
> etc. and setting some general denials in /etc/hosts.deny (plus some
> other stuff like changing default ports of some demons like sshd), I am
> looking for some additional security options I can apply to a linux 
system.

>
> Especially, I am looking for a not-too-paranoid-to-setup-tool that can
> review my logfiles and report me via beep and/or local mail that it
> found something unusual in a log. Does anyone know of such a tool?
>
> Second, as a more theoretical question, is there any open source project
> available that can inspect network packages on application level, e.g.
> to detect virusses etc. (like sandboxes on huge firewall systems).
>
>
> I hope not to mix some termini, cos I am not that good in this network
> stuff...but I hope to learn from your answers. So do not hesitate to
> post answers 8^).
>
> Greetings and have a nice weekend,
>
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playmperg and framebuffer problems

2001-11-10 Thread Stan Brown
I have a Debian potato + Progeny + 2.4.3 kernel machien with an ATI Rage
video card. When I fire up plaympeg (even with the --novideo switch) it
seems to put my video card in a scan rate that's too high for my monitor
(the minitor puts up a synch lost message, but the audio plays).

Any sugestiosn as to how to fix this (other than buying a better monitor
:-))

What's I'm trying to do is play audo mp3's, so maybe I just need a pointer
to a different tool for this?

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Re: Problem in my CD-Roms

2001-11-10 Thread keith frost
I just recieved some cd's in the mail that show up
blank on linux, but on my wifes w9x machine there
fine.



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can't insmod wd with debian 2.2r3

2001-11-10 Thread kirill nelus



Hi !
 
I have an old ISA NIC:
 SMC EtherCard Plus Elite 
16 Combo (WD/8013EW)
It works fine with Windows 98, Mandrake Linux, 
Coyote Linux Router
however in Debian 2.2r3 insmod wd fails 
(neither with io=0x280 irq=5 
nor with autoprobe). Where is the problem ?
 
sincerely,
Kirill Nelus
 


vorbis encoder/decoder for potato machine?

2001-11-10 Thread Stan Brown
I'm trying to get abcde working on a potato + progeny + 2.4.3 kernel
machine.. I actually have it working using lame, but In the spirit of
Debian, I'd like to get rid of the questionable mp3 format.

I grab vorbis from sourceforg, but I had a problem getting one of the
libraries to compile (missing header file). I was wondering if anyone could
point me to a version of vorbis tools that is suitable for using woht the
lates abcde, that works on a potato machine?

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a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system
originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit 
company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition.
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Progeny -> woody?

2001-11-10 Thread Stan Brown
I've looked at the Progeny page on this, and it looks a bit scary to atempt
on a machine that I need to keep working.

Can anyone thta has atempted this give me some feedback? Sucess, _and_
failure stories apprecited. Also some cometary on what nice features might
have disapeared in this "upgrade".

Thanks.

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a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system
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/var/log/messages on the desktop

2001-11-10 Thread Sunny Dubey
hey,

how do people get messages that get added to /var/log/messages printed to 
their desktops ??

sort of like the following desktop-screenshot at the bottom

http://indigo.ie/~fowler/screenshot.jpg

thanks



Mutt - Procmail Question

2001-11-10 Thread Jijo Jose A
hi all
still i used procmail 3.21.20010831.3.22pre-1 for mail processing and mutt
1.3.22-1 as MUA, to remove the unwanted headers i wrote '|cat | formail -k -X 
From:
-X Return-Path: -X Date:.. >>my_mbox' in .procmailrc as the action line 
for a condition. but i started 'mutt -f my_mbox ', my_mbox is not a mailbox
error will occured. 
how can i solve this ?
TIA
-jijo jose



Fetchmail - Socket problems?

2001-11-10 Thread Tobias Bengtsson
I've just managed to set up procmail, mutt, fetchmail and exim and it seems
to work fine to some extent.
I noticed yesterday that, while fetching mail from the POP server, fetchmail
halts with a socket error as soon as a mail was larger than 10,000 octets.
Now this troubles me, although I don't think that I get that many messages 
larger that 10kb, I feel that I atleast should be able to.

After reading the FAQ, I tried setting MTU and MTR to 552 in my ppp options
file, but that doesn't help.

I'm running fetchmail release 5.3.3+NTLM+SDPS+NLS, installed from a deb
package, if that's any help to anyone..

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Newbie comments & queries

2001-11-10 Thread Ian Balchin
Brenda, hi,

> > > The lpr switch -i appears to do nothing for the margin. Thus,
> 
> The bad news is, according to the lpr man page, "this option
> is not supported on all printers".

Not on my man page it doesn't

Despite the fact that at install time I gave the command line parameters 
for lp (lp port=0x378, irq=7) and this was accepted as 'installation 
successful', I see at boot time references to 'polling'

I had tried to add this line

lp=0x278,5378,7 (note second port, have now  stuck in LPT2 card)

but when I run lilo after editing this in it comes up with 'syntax error' 
for this line (this as suggested in BootPrompt-HOWTO)

Am I worrying about something that I need not?  In fact LPT2 was 
primarily  intended for a dos programme (printer normally loaded with 
invoice paper) but thought OK add it in to Linux.  Don't know what 
polling is.

Regards
Ian
Ian Balchin
Grahamstown, South Africa.



Re: CR/LF even better

2001-11-10 Thread Alan Shutko
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> #include 
> #include 

Are you posting homework assignments here, or are you unaware of the
much simpler ways to do this?

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true type fonts

2001-11-10 Thread Matt Fair
Does anyone know where I can get true type fonts?  Like a debian
package?
Thanks,
Matt





apache upgrade stops logging

2001-11-10 Thread Rick Pasotto
Yesterday I upgraded apache to the testing 1.3.22-2 and entries are no
longer being made to the access.log. The other logs (error, agent, and
referrer) are still being written to. Doing a diff on the old/new
httpd.conf and srm.conf files reveals no changes relating to logging.

How do I get my access logging back?

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 to show to the world that it is wrong to kill people?"
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Re: Progeny -> woody?

2001-11-10 Thread Jesse Goerz
On Saturday 10 November 2001 09:23, Stan Brown wrote:
> I've looked at the Progeny page on this, and it looks a bit
> scary to atempt on a machine that I need to keep working.
>
> Can anyone thta has atempted this give me some feedback?
> Sucess, _and_ failure stories apprecited. Also some cometary
> on what nice features might have disapeared in this "upgrade".
>
> Thanks.

The only things I've noticed so far is the desktop icons refuse 
to be anything but folders, and the font which describes them 
also refuses to display unless you select the folder.  Also, 
woody's version of gdm isn't as "pretty" and it removes the 
System menu so you can't reboot from the login screen.  You will 
have to use the config utility for gdm to fix that (can't 
remember the name of it).

Other than that, the only things I've noticed have all been 
talked about on the lists which makes me assume they are woody 
issues, not progeny->woody upgrade issues.

HTH,
Jesse



Re: Multiple SCSI Drives

2001-11-10 Thread sloopy malibu

on 11/6/01 7:19 PM using moldy cheese [EMAIL PROTECTED] engraved this
message

> I have a question about using more than one SCSI disk wil ext2 file
> systems on them.  It has been my experience with m68k Mac's that the
> system will hang after a while when it has to deal with more than one
> SCSI disk.  It doesn't seem to matter what kind of Mac I am using.  The
> results are the same.  I am using version 2.2.19 of the kernel.  Has
> anyone else noticed this?  Is there a solution?  Thanks.
> 
> Steve Nichols
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 

i have a Q800 running 2.2r3 (just updated to 2.2.19 kernel tonight...) and
only time i have problems with lockup during scsi access is during long
reads (i.e. reading a long file sequentially...) but i have three drives
in my Q800 with no problems... this is my scsi setp...

2gig
  mounted on /

700meg
  64meg Mac OS boot (mounted on /hfs in linux)
  128meg swap
  ~480meg mounted on /home

CD-ROM

SCSI analyzer


sloopy.





Printer 'HPLaserJ@mansha' - cannot open connection - Connection refused

2001-11-10 Thread Pankaj Jangid
hi all,

I am having printer on a win2k machine and I want to use it from my
Debian GNU/linux machine. I have lprng installed. I am using testing
distribution of Debian.

I am giving this command 

# lpc - PHPLaserJ -Smansha -Uncstvshi\\pankaj debug

it prints these two lines:
Printer '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' - cannot open connection - Connection refused
Make sure the remote host supports the LPD protocol

contents of my /etc/printcap file are:

lp:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
:mx#0:\
:sh:\
:if=/var/spool/lpd/lp/filter:\
:af=/var/spool/lpd/lp/acct:\
:lp=/dev/null:\
:PAPERSIZE=a4:\
:DESIRED_TO=ps:\
:PRINTER_TYPE=SMB:\
:ASCII_TO_PS=YES:\
:GSDEVICE=ljet4:\
:RESOLUTION=600x600:\
:PS_SEND_EOF=NO:\
:NUP=1:\
:RTLFTMAR=18:\
:TOPBOTMAR=18:\
:TEXT_SEND_EOF=YES:


I hava "lprng" package installed and I configured /etc/printcap using 
"printtool" package.

I tried test printing using lpr command also but it just quits.
After this lpq gives this message:

# lpq
Printer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Queue: no printable jobs in queue
 Status: removing job 'cfA993ashoka.ncst.ernet.in' - ABORT at 21:12:07.846

Can any one tell me what is the problem ?


regards

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Re: Backspace is delete

2001-11-10 Thread dman
On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 05:39:27PM +0800, Michael Robinson wrote:
| Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| >You should probably read /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz. Search
| >for "Why doesn't my backspace, delete, or some other key work?". It's
| >possible you've got too many uses of xmodmap and .Xresources
| >*Translations - backspace and delete *should* work correctly out of the
| >box now.
| 
| Thank you.  Unfortunately, the author of the FAQ offers a polemical diatribe
| supporting one side of a religious debate, rather than a solution to my
| problem (which would lie on the opposing side of said debate):
... 
| I won't go into all the historical distortions, mischaracterizations and
| outright errors presented above.

I'm interested in knowing the correct story, off-list if you think it
is inappropriate for the list.

| I'll simply note that it's my computer, and I would prefer that it
| behave the way I intend it to, to the fullest extent possible.
| 
| And, in this instance, the intent is that Backspace produce a backspace and
| Delete produce a delete.

If you want this in terminals, see 'man stty'.

Try :

stty erase ^H

to make the key that sends ^H to erase characters to the
left of the cursor.  I don't know what action ^? should be then.

HTH,
-D



Re: true type fonts

2001-11-10 Thread DvB
Matt Fair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Does anyone know where I can get true type fonts?  Like a debian
> package?
> Thanks,
> Matt
> 

try apt-get install msttcorefonts. Then you might want to read the
howto: http://www.paulandlesley.org/linux/xfree4_tt.html

HTH



Re: tar and '-p' option

2001-11-10 Thread David Raeker-Jordan
Lance Hoffmeyer wrote:
> When backing up directories do I need the -p
> option to save file attributes, ownership...
> or do I use -p during restore to do this, OR
> do I not need -p and it is done by default?
> 

I use -p on the extraction side and it works fine.

Also, from the man page:

-p, --same-permissions, --preserve-permissions
  extract all protection information

This seems to indicate that -p is uded on the extract side, not the create
side.

HTH
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mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Harrisburg, PA, USA



Re: vorbis encoder/decoder for potato machine?

2001-11-10 Thread Craig Dickson
Stan Brown wrote:

> I grab vorbis from sourceforg, but I had a problem getting one of the
> libraries to compile (missing header file).

If you have problems building vorbis, you might want to ask about that
on the vorbis list. I'm sure the address is on vorbis.com or xiph.org.

Sorry, I don't have vorbis tools for potato.

Craig



ext3 to be in 2.4.15!

2001-11-10 Thread DvB
... it's in as of 2.4.15-pre2

http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/testing/patch-2.4.15.log



Mounting samba shares...

2001-11-10 Thread Alexander Wallace
Hi there? is there an easy way to mount samba shares in a linux desktop,
kind of what you do in windoze like \\10.100.100.100\userdir?

Gnomba doesn't see the shared user directories as shares and I don't know
how to specify them in it...

I know you can put a line in /etc/fstab, but sometimes i need a quick way
to mount... 

Is this possible?

Thanks!



Re: Cant login

2001-11-10 Thread John Lord
Hi Steffen

, On 08-Nov-01, you wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 14:30, John Lord wrote:
>>> 1. Make sure that this problem is caused by xfree package 4.1.0-7 by
>>> updating to the most current ones.

>> I have 4.1.0-7 installed atm, and yes this does seem to be the problem.
>> Hope to be sorting it out soon.
> Sorry, I have forgotten the NOT - 4.1.0-7 is buggy. Please upgrade. If
> you cannot upgrade for some reasone you have to modifiy file
> /etc/X11/Xsession.d/99xfree86-common_start
> remove the quotations if there are any. As fare as I remember this was
> the problem.

Yes thanks I did change that but it made no difference unfortunatly ;-(


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Re: run dselect for remote machine (nfs+chroot?)

2001-11-10 Thread Hans Ekbrand
On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 01:52:23AM -0800, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> I have slow 486DX2 (20MB) running woody as router.
> 
> I realize memory swaps out frequently when I run dselect.

I have 486DX 33 12 Mb, and found out that after selecting packages to
install I could reduce the memory used by dselect by quitting dselect
and then restart and go directly to install.


I finally gave up dselect and am now relying only on apt.

/Hans Ekbrand


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Re: ext3 to be in 2.4.15!

2001-11-10 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 11:10:50AM -0600, DvB wrote:
> ... it's in as of 2.4.15-pre2
> 
> http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/testing/patch-2.4.15.log

Great, they're weren't even done with 2.4.14 yet. Is it just me, or are
they churning out releases too damn fast for comfort? I am reassured by
Debian's slow release cycle that it will be of high quality. Kernel.org is
slowly becoming as bad as any other big company. 

Mike

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Gigabyte GA-7ZX & sound chip

2001-11-10 Thread Keith O'Connell
Hi,

I am now stuck. I am unable to get sound out of the box in front of me,
and I am at the end of the list of things I can try.

I have a machine based on a Gigabyte GA-7ZX. It has a 1.2 Ghz AMD and
512Mb. I have managed to establish that the sound chip on the board
requires the es1371 module, and this I selected at installation time,
and it duly appears in /etc/modules.

This is where the problem arises. If the module is left in the
/etc/modules file, then my Gnome desktop locks up solid and the only way
out is to pull the power lead out of the back of the box! If es1371 is
commented-out then Gnome runs perfectly, but in absolute silence.

I have had sound running fine on two other boxes with different sound
chips, so I am reasonably sure that my method is good in principle, but
I cannot get it to work in with particular combination. Hopefully
someone else has encountered, and solved, what I clearly cannot.

My only requirement is that the solution does not go outside "stable". I
am finding Linux a big enough challange without bringing in
"testing/unstable/sid" into the equation

Can any one help?

Keith
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Re: ext3 to be in 2.4.15!

2001-11-10 Thread Jason Wojciechowski
Michael P. Soulier wrote:

 | Great, they're weren't even done with 2.4.14 yet. Is it just me,
 | or are they churning out releases too damn fast for comfort? I am
 | reassured by Debian's slow release cycle that it will be of high
 | quality. Kernel.org is slowly becoming as bad as any other big
 | company. 

It's a conscious choice.  I've read that Alan Cox is a big fan of lots
of small-change releases rather than a few big ones.

As bad as any other big company?  How often does Adobe release a new
version of Photoshop or Illustrator?

-Jason

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Re: /var/log/messages on the desktop

2001-11-10 Thread Wayne Topa
Sunny Dubey([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> hey,
> 
> how do people get messages that get added to /var/log/messages printed to 
> their desktops ??
> 
> sort of like the following desktop-screenshot at the bottom
> 
> http://indigo.ie/~fowler/screenshot.jpg
> 

Maybe you mean this

xconsole -file /dev/xconsole 

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Re: Newbie comments & queries

2001-11-10 Thread Wayne Topa
Ian Balchin([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> Despite the fact that at install time I gave the command line parameters 
> for lp (lp port=0x378, irq=7) and this was accepted as 'installation 
> successful', I see at boot time references to 'polling'
> 
> I had tried to add this line
> 
> lp=0x278,5378,7   (note second port, have now  stuck in LPT2 card)
> 
> but when I run lilo after editing this in it comes up with 'syntax error' 
> for this line (this as suggested in BootPrompt-HOWTO)
> 
> Am I worrying about something that I need not?  In fact LPT2 was 
> primarily  intended for a dos programme (printer normally loaded with 
> invoice paper) but thought OK add it in to Linux.  Don't know what 
> polling is.

In linux, or winbloz (dos), the printer does not need to use an IRQ.
When you don't assign one to the printer is shows that by this type of
message  lp0: using parport0 (polling).

As I need all the IRQ's I can get, I use polling by using the
following in lilo.conf;
append  = "lp=parport0 parport=0x378,none" 
 ^^^  No IRQ

:-) HTH, YMMV, HAND :-)

Wayne
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building my own .debs

2001-11-10 Thread Michael P. Soulier
Hey people. 

Apologies for asking something that I should know, but if I have some
source that I've built from a tarball, and I'd like to package it up as a .deb
package and install it, I need to know how. Could someone direct me to the
definite reference on how to do this?

Thanks,

Mike

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Creating mp3's or vobis's from non CD sources?

2001-11-10 Thread Stan Brown
I'm just figuring out all of the audio things I can do with my Linux
machne. Pretty neat stuff. Today, I'm reading in all my CD's!

Next, I would like to read in non CD sources, tapes, LP's et all. I
recognize I will hev to enter all teh artist/Album/Track data by hand (big
task), and I'm willing to invest the time to do this. So, how do I go about
doing this?

Most of the sources ar of very high quality, and i don't want to degrade
them any more than I can.

Sugestions?

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originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit 
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Re: ext3 to be in 2.4.15!

2001-11-10 Thread Stephen E. Hargrove
* Michael P. Soulier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> Great, they're weren't even done with 2.4.14 yet. Is it just me, or are
> they churning out releases too damn fast for comfort? 

release early, release often.  it's easier to locate and correct bugs in
"small change" releases than it is in monster release.
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Re: mozilla 0.9.5 on sid

2001-11-10 Thread Charles Baker

--- Marc Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 05:06:26PM -0800, Charles
> Baker wrote:
> > When I start mozilla 0.9.5 on sid I get an error
> > "Cannot create browser instance"
> 
> Move your ~/.mozilla directory somewhere else and
> let Moz recreate it.  I
> bet it works now.
> 
> Do you use something other than one of the
> pre-packaged skins?
> 
<>

Thanks. Mozilla now starts. No, I haven't done
anything with the skins on this machine yet. However,
I can't get Mozilla nor Galeon 0.12.4 to display https
pages. for instance https://login.yahoo.com/ and even
going to http://login.yahoo.com, filling in my uid and
pw and pressing submit yeilds nada.

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Re: Newbie comments & queries

2001-11-10 Thread Brenda J. Butler

> I thought that I had fixed up color on the ls command but it seems not.
> I am logged in as user not root
> 
> The mini Colour-ls HOWTO said to add certain lines into .bashrc - well 
> they were already there so I uncommented them.

Once you uncomment them you have to run the script again.  You can
run it by doing:

$ . ./.bashrc

or 

$ source ./.bashrc

Then the colouring should work in that shell.  Or you can log out
and log back in again and the colouring should work in new shells.
But I like the idea of testing the new .bashrc file before
logging out, so that if a serious mistake is made and the script
bombs, you can fix it before you log out.

If it still doesn't work, post the parts of your .bashrc
and .bash_profile (or /etc/login and /etc/bash.bashrc) files
that deal with coloring, and we'll try to help.

Also send the output of the command
$ echo $SHELL

> Still no go.  I noted 
> that the first lines of .bashrc were like
> 
> /.bashrc executed by bash(1) for non-login shells
> 
> Well, I have a login shell, right? And the color was not coming up, and 
> neither were the uncommented alias definitions in the .bashrc file 
> either.

... a new login shell, after the .bash_profile is changed.

> Further examination brought me to .bashrc_profile , the first lines of 
> which said that it was for log-in shells.  I also noted that it had a 
> line
> 
> Include .bashrc

Files get included from scripts with the source or dot commands
as above (the source command can be run from the command line
or in a script).

> which I assume will process .bashrc. If I uncomment this file will that 
> be fine? I suppose I should have saved it as .old and then gone ahead and 
> tried anyway.

Another good technique!

> Also, question of terminology.  Do I have a terminal?  I have a monitor 
> attached to my PC.  Is this a vt100 terminal in unix-speak?

It's not a vt100 terminal.  I'm not entirely sure, I think you
are working at the "console".  It _is_ a "terminal", just not
a vt100 terminal.

> With regard to seeing more of top, I suppose that i could see if the 
> monitor would show more lines, will investigate that.

The output of top changes every 10 seconds or so (configurable), if
you really want to pore over the output and ensure it adds up,
etc, you want ps.  You can pipe ps to the screen, or to a file:

$ ps aux > ps.file.txt

Then you can edit the file ps.file.txt, or cat it through less:

$ cat ps.file.txt | less

And examine the contents to your heart's content.

> Douglas Tophams book is showing signs of age, but has been some help.  
> The simple script file examples, one concerned with taking input at the 
> command line via read (a directory name) failed to work despite having 
> been written correctly and rendered executeable.  I will check it out 
> again however.  There are quite a lot of commands that have obviously 

There are different shells, which take commands in different
syntaxes.  Debian Linux uses the bash shell, the Born Again Shell.
Similar shells are:  sh, ksh (Korn Shell), Bourne shell.  All
these are derived from and mostly compatible with sh.

You want to try to make sure your book isn't using C-shell derived
syntax (actually quite likely).  The two are really not compatible.
C-shell derived shells are:
csh, tcsh, zsh? and others.

> been upgraded or done away with over the years. Calendar is nice, have 
> made up a file with all birthdays and local holidays in it.  Must run it 
> daily via cron perhaps.

Great stuff, glad you are productive with some things!  Makes
learning a lot more fun.

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Re: tar and '-p' option

2001-11-10 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
* Lance Hoffmeyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> When backing up directories do I need the -p
> option to save file attributes, ownership...
> or do I use -p during restore to do this, OR
> do I not need -p and it is done by default?
> 
> I don't really understand this option and I
> want to make sure that if I have to recover
> a filesystem that when I untar everything is
> not set with the root permissions and ownership.

Not sure about GNU tar, but most tars default to -p
when run as root. In any case, giving it -p doesn't
hurt. I always use -cpv / -xpvf - when moving 
filesystems.

Dima
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vhosts policy?

2001-11-10 Thread Jørgen Hermanrud Fjeld
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Re: mozilla 0.9.5 on sid

2001-11-10 Thread Paul Smith
SSL support in Mozilla is broken out into a separate package, PSM
(Personal Security Manager).

To use it, you need to install the mozilla-psm package as well.

HTH.

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Re: mozilla 0.9.5 on sid

2001-11-10 Thread Mario Vukelic
On Sat, 2001-11-10 at 19:27, Charles Baker wrote:
>
> I can't get Mozilla nor Galeon 0.12.4 to display https
> pages. for instance https://login.yahoo.com/ and even
> going to http://login.yahoo.com, filling in my uid and
> pw and pressing submit yeilds nada.

You probably don't have mozilla-psm installed
-- 

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Thoghts on a computer as a stero component?

2001-11-10 Thread Stan Brown
OK, I'v got the bug.

I'm siting here thinking about giving my stero system (medium high end) a
computer for Christmas :-)

Seroiousl what have people done for computers used promarliy as a steror
system component? Seems to me tahe niose sheidling would be priority No.1,
followed closely by a reasonably compact design, and then, a failry smalle,
but usuable display.

What have people used here?

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useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and
a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system
originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit 
company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition.
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trying to verify contents of my tar archive

2001-11-10 Thread Kurt Lieber
I've been using Karsten Self's sample backup script available in the Linux 
Backup mini-FAQ at:

http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/backups.html

This script basically uses tar to archive a list of directories to tape and 
then verifies the backup as well.  When I run the script, the output is the 
following:

z8:~/backup# ./full.script
tar: Removing leading `/' from member names
[snip 8 more lines of this]
/etc: verified
/root: verified
/boot: verified
/home: verified
/usr/local: verified
/var/backups: verified
/var/lib: verified
/var/log: verified
/var/www: verified

Which leads me to believe all the data has been backed up and is good to go.  
However, if I do "tar tvf /dev/st0" to list the contents of the tape, all I 
get is the following:

z8:~/backup# tar -tvf /dev/st0
drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2001-10-18 19:59:23 var/www/
-rw-r--r-- root/root  4100 2001-03-22 17:39:29 var/www/index.html
-rw-r--r-- root/root  1195 2001-10-18 19:59:23 var/www/search.html

I suspect this is more user error than anything, but I'm not sure what I'm 
doing wrong.  I've tried rewinding the tape as well as doing a "mt -f 
/dev/st0 asf" 1 to position the tape at the beginning, but I still get the 
same output when I tar tvf.  Any help is appreciated.

--kurt



Re: Fetchmail - Socket problems?

2001-11-10 Thread Cam Ellison
I am having similar problems with a cable modem connection.  I haven't been 
able to determine the exact size, but one or two large files have the same 
effect as several (usually more than 10) messages.  Fetchmail indicates it is 
ready to receive, waits (for nothing), and then eventually gives up because the 
server doesn't reply.  The FAQ suggests there is a problem in my networking 
layer, but I have no way of figuring out what that is.

A look through Google suggests that part of the problem may be the server.

You may want to switch to IMAP from POP, though that did not help me.

Good luck

Cam


* Tobias Bengtsson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I've just managed to set up procmail, mutt, fetchmail and exim and it seems
> to work fine to some extent.
> I noticed yesterday that, while fetching mail from the POP server, fetchmail
> halts with a socket error as soon as a mail was larger than 10,000 octets.
> Now this troubles me, although I don't think that I get that many messages 
> larger that 10kb, I feel that I atleast should be able to.
> 
> After reading the FAQ, I tried setting MTU and MTR to 552 in my ppp options
> file, but that doesn't help.
> 
>
-- 
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From Roberts Creek on B.C.'s incomparable Sunshine Coast
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Postfix troubles (rewriting addresses)

2001-11-10 Thread Joachim Trinkwitz
Dear all,

to rewrite my mail address correctly (ppp connection to university
ISP), I inserted the following lines in the config files:

- /etc/postfix/main.cf:relayhost = mailout.uni-bonn.de
   myhostname = wabe.germanistik.uni-bonn.de
   masquerade_domains = uni-bonn.de
- /etc/postfix/canonical:joachim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- /etc/postfix/sender_canonical:joachim [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This works for my part, but there is a problem when I send a mail to
someone with an address like [EMAIL PROTECTED]': the address is
delivered correctly, but the `To:' address in the header too is
rewritten to [EMAIL PROTECTED]' (without the `xyz'). This wouldn't be
a real problem, but I'm driving people crazy who've got a mail with
such an address in the `CC' field and wants to do a `Reply to all' ...

Hoping someone can give me a clue,
joachim




Re: ext3 to be in 2.4.15!

2001-11-10 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 12:53:38PM -0500, Jason Wojciechowski wrote:
> 
> It's a conscious choice.  I've read that Alan Cox is a big fan of lots
> of small-change releases rather than a few big ones.

I guess it makes sense to release that way, I just wish they versioned a
little differently, so I could decide what version to upgrade to without
incorporating the bug of the week. 

Mike

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Re: No xpr on debian...

2001-11-10 Thread Mike Fontenot

Erik Steffl wrote:

>  e.g. gimp can read xwd files, there's /usr/bin/xwdtopnm, I guess there
>  are other programs as well...

I couldn't find xwdtopnm on my system.  Is it part of some
debian package?

Mike Fontenot
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: vhosts policy?

2001-11-10 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 07:52:26PM +0100, J?rgen Hermanrud Fjeld wrote:
> Are there any policies for vhosts?

No. Daniel Stone is working on a vhost-base (or vhosts-base? Can't
remember) package which might help to establish one.

-- 
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Re: building my own .debs

2001-11-10 Thread Meir Kriheli
On Saturday 10 November 2001 20:13, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
> Hey people.
>
> Apologies for asking something that I should know, but if I have some
> source that I've built from a tarball, and I'd like to package it up as a
> .deb package and install it, I need to know how. Could someone direct me to
> the definite reference on how to do this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike

I don't know if this can help, but you can try checkinstall.

The beta version (1.5.0beta2) can generate deb packages (as well as rpm). See 

http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall-en.html

-- 
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Re: building my own .debs

2001-11-10 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 01:13:24PM -0500, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
> Apologies for asking something that I should know, but if I have some
> source that I've built from a tarball, and I'd like to package it up as a .deb
> package and install it, I need to know how. Could someone direct me to the
> definite reference on how to do this?

http://www.debian.org/devel/ has just about all the references,
including the New Maintainer's Guide.

Cheers,

-- 
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Re: weird nvidia problem in unstable

2001-11-10 Thread Victor Julien
Hi Dominique,

Since yesterday i had the same problem, i run debian-testing. Going back to 
libc6-2.2.4-3 solved my problem! So nvidia in combination with libc6 seems to 
be the problem.

Good luck,
Victor

On Friday 09 November 2001 20:25, Dominique Deleris wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Nov 2001 09:46:13 -0500, Mental <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
>  Mental> Hello, I've run accross an odd condition on my debian (unstable)
> box. It Mental> seems that Quake3 is no longer textured properly on my
> geforce card. The Mental> game starts fine. Menu's look ok. Startup screen
> loads fine, but in game, Mental> textures are completely wrong. I've
> reinstalled my GLX and kernel drivers. Mental> I've checked for conflicting
> libs. Unreal Tournament works fine. Prboom Mental> works fine in GL mode.
> Quakeforge is fine also. Rune (ported by loki) has Mental> the same problem
> as quake3.
>
>  Mental> I rebooted, quake3 is fine in windows. I thought maybe it was a
> card issue Mental> and swapped in a brand new card. Same problem.
>
>  Mental> Is this related (or could it be) to the libsdl re-arangement? I'm
> kind of Mental> at wits end with it. My next step is to reinstall suse 7.2
> and see if I Mental> get the same probelem. I know I had everything with
> SuSE, so its my 'last Mental> known good' configuration.
>
>  Mental> I believe this weird behavior happened with my last apt-get
> upgrade, but Mental> I'm not %100 sure and I dont even remember what got
> upgraded. Anyone have Mental> any advice?
>
> I have the same problem today in Woody (testing).
>
> Any idea? Was the problem solved?
>
> Kind regards,



Re: Mutt - Procmail Question

2001-11-10 Thread John Patton
On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 07:48:00PM +0530, Jijo Jose A wrote:
> hi all
> still i used procmail 3.21.20010831.3.22pre-1 for mail processing and mutt
> 1.3.22-1 as MUA, to remove the unwanted headers i wrote '|cat | formail -k -X 
> From:
> -X Return-Path: -X Date:.. >>my_mbox' in .procmailrc as the action line 
> for a condition. but i started 'mutt -f my_mbox ', my_mbox is not a 
> mailbox
> error will occured. 
> how can i solve this ?

A couple of possibilities come to mind. A line looking like:

From [EMAIL PROTECTED]

is used to seperate different emails. If it's being removed you will
have problems. The other thing is that the mbox format is picky about
certain things, like trailing empty lines. Look at the actual file and
find out what doesn't look right and then fix your procmail action
accordingly. Try looking up the specifications for mbox style mail boxes
online to find out what's wrong with your file.

-- 
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"Love conquers all things; let us too surrender to Love."
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proftpd root login not possible anymore

2001-11-10 Thread Dominique Deleris
Hi...

Since my last "apt-get dist-upgrade", I can't login anymore as
"root" on my local ftp server. My proftpd.conf file contains the
"RootLogin on" option as needed, but it simply does not work.

That annoys me, because I use it in emacs, when I want to edit
files as root.

Any idea/suggestion ?

Thanks
-- 
Dominique Deleris
http://potatoworld.tuxfamily.org



Re: ext3 to be in 2.4.15!

2001-11-10 Thread Tom Allison

Michael P. Soulier wrote:


On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 12:53:38PM -0500, Jason Wojciechowski wrote:


It's a conscious choice.  I've read that Alan Cox is a big fan of lots
of small-change releases rather than a few big ones.



I guess it makes sense to release that way, I just wish they versioned a
little differently, so I could decide what version to upgrade to without
incorporating the bug of the week. 


Mike





Well, it's pretty easy.  I upgrade when I need to and then I usually 
either hang back at least one revision or wait ~2 weeks before I do it, 
to make sure the smoke has a chance to clear.


I went from the stable kernel in potatoe to 2.4.9 to 2.4.12.  I had to 
get to 2.4.12 because 2.4.9 had some irda problems.


I won't get getting into 2.4.15 for a while yet as I'm curious to see 
how this ext3 really shakes out and how it's used.  After all, wouldn't 
I have to reinstall everying on a new set up partitions in order to get 
the support for ext3???




Re: weird nvidia problem in unstable

2001-11-10 Thread Dominique Deleris
On Sat, 10 Nov 2001 20:40:24 +0100, Victor Julien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

 Victor> Hi Dominique,
 Victor> Since yesterday i had the same problem, i run debian-testing. Going 
back to 
 Victor> libc6-2.2.4-3 solved my problem! So nvidia in combination with libc6 
seems to 
 Victor> be the problem.

 Victor> Good luck,
 Victor> Victor

Here is what "Mental" replied to me:
---
I had some conflicting libGL.so* files in /usr/X11R6/lib
Check if you do. If you do, rm /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so* and run
ldconfig.
---

It solved my problem.

So I wonder what is the relation with libc6 version?

Cheers,
-- 
Dominique Deleris
http://potatoworld.tuxfamily.org



Re: run dselect for remote machine (nfs+chroot?)

2001-11-10 Thread Tom Allison

Hans Ekbrand wrote:


On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 01:52:23AM -0800, Osamu Aoki wrote:


I have slow 486DX2 (20MB) running woody as router.

I realize memory swaps out frequently when I run dselect.



I have 486DX 33 12 Mb, and found out that after selecting packages to
install I could reduce the memory used by dselect by quitting dselect
and then restart and go directly to install.


I finally gave up dselect and am now relying only on apt.

/Hans Ekbrand



Besides being "user friendly" is there any that dselect does that 
apt-get cannot do?  The only thing that I'm aware of is that there can 
be different files upgraded when I select 'dselect' over 'apt-get upgrade'

Or am I just suffering from a mis-conception?



Re: ext3 to be in 2.4.15!

2001-11-10 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
> I went from the stable kernel in potatoe to 2.4.9 to 2.4.12.  I had to 
> get to 2.4.12 because 2.4.9 had some irda problems.
> 
> I won't get getting into 2.4.15 for a while yet as I'm curious to see 
> how this ext3 really shakes out and how it's used.

2.4.15-pre2 locks my box hard...

> After all, wouldn't 
> I have to reinstall everying on a new set up partitions in order to get 
> the support for ext3???

No, you just have to use tune2fs to add a journal file to each
partition, and change your fstab. ext3 is forward and backward
compatible with ext2. Oh -- you will need a recent version of e2fsprogs

J.

-- 



Re: building my own .debs

2001-11-10 Thread Brian Nelson
"Michael P. Soulier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hey people. 
> 
> Apologies for asking something that I should know, but if I have some
> source that I've built from a tarball, and I'd like to package it up as a .deb
> package and install it, I need to know how. Could someone direct me to the
> definite reference on how to do this?

http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/

-- 
Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Fetchmail changes?

2001-11-10 Thread Alan Chandler
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I had a disasterous update to my main server last weeked - in that I tried to 
do a testing upgrade and found that many of my applications would no longer 
work

I restored some things via a backup, but during the week I have noticed a 
problem

Using kmail, if I get some spam mail, I hit control B which is supposed to 
send a bounce message back to the sender.  This pops up a warning dialog with 
the mail address of who it is going to send the bounce message to.

All of a sudden last week I noticed that hitting control B was no longer 
giving mail address of where the message had originally come from, but was 
instead reporting that it would try and bounce the message to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Looking at the headers of the message I am 
trying to about does indeed have 

Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

at the top


My question - when did this change take place - is it an update to debian 
/etc/init.d/fetchmail - which seems to now set the user id to "fetchmail" 
before running the daemon (did it do this before?) or fetchmail itself?


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Re: No xpr on debian...

2001-11-10 Thread Mike Fontenot

Nate wrote:

> doesn't look like its available on debian. as for fundamental
> i can't imagine how it is. if it was it would be included.

Well, it's the CAPABILITY that's fundamental.  Given an X dump,
it's reasonable to want to print out that image.  The program
xpr converts the X dump to a postscript file, which can then
be sent to lpr or lp. The same capability
must be available in some other debian program.

But also, xpr IS referenced on the xwd man page, so in that
sense xpr could be considered fundamental.

> i've been usin X and never heard of it in years. i work for
> a company that does tons of X development(mostly X servers)
> and ive never heard the program name mentioned(im not a developer
> though) if you need it that bad i suggest grabbing the
> source.. i checked a redhat machine(6.2) and it did not
> have xpr either. so maybe its not part of xfree? i checked
> a tru64, aix hpux and solaris systems and they had it.

I used it on my redhat (5.0) system, and so I had assumed
that it came from there.  But before that, I used Solaris
at work, so maybe that's were I originally got it.

I just tried to execute (on debian) the xpr 
binary I got off my Redhat 5.0
system, and it said "can't load library 'libXmu.so.6' ".  On
my debian system, I DO have a /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6, but
it's a link to libXmu.so.6.0 (which I also have).  Why can't 
it load that?

Mike Fontenot
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: ext3 to be in 2.4.15!

2001-11-10 Thread Tom Allison

Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote:


After all, wouldn't 
I have to reinstall everying on a new set up partitions in order to get 
the support for ext3???




No, you just have to use tune2fs to add a journal file to each
partition, and change your fstab. ext3 is forward and backward
compatible with ext2. Oh -- you will need a recent version of e2fsprogs

J.



So, unlike what I read in ReiserFS, I can just hang out on this for a 
while and then upgrade at my leisure?  This is so totally cool
Is there an performance difference between this "conversion" and 
starting from scratch?








remote install progress?

2001-11-10 Thread Tom Allison
OK, so I nuked a partition and started building a new Debian 
installation using a floppy disk to boot from.


I'm trying to put together something here that I can have someone use to 
boot a computer 1,000 miles away and I can use SSH to install everything 
else necessary to turn that computer into a Debian GNU/Linux server.


Originally, it looked like I could just install everything via CD-ROM.
But this distro I've created is so tiny that I can (maybe) fit it into a 
floppy disk!!!  (Yes, it would have saved time if I had know this earlier..)


Question -- what I have now is a hard drive and a floopy boot disk.

I can't exactly ship this in it's current form.
How do I convert this into a boot disk?




Re: Fetchmail - Socket problems?

2001-11-10 Thread Tobias Bengtsson
Cam Ellison went something in the lines of:
> A look through Google suggests that part of the problem may be the server.

Hmm, thanks. I'll look in to the server, to see if there's any problems on that
end. But would that be fetchmail specific? I can get mail just fine with any
win client, although fetchmail is the only client I've tried for Linux so far.
 
> You may want to switch to IMAP from POP, though that did not help me.

Hehe, I've tried setting up Mutt to get mail from a IMAP account so that I can
stop using windows for checking mail. Although, the latest Mutt deb package 
seems
to have problems with IMAP, as far as I've heard. I'll probably try compiling
the latest source instead.

Anyone else got any ideas about what could be wrong?

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Re: ext3 to be in 2.4.15!

2001-11-10 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 03:16:54PM -0500, Tom Allison wrote:
> >No, you just have to use tune2fs to add a journal file to each
> >partition, and change your fstab. ext3 is forward and backward
> >compatible with ext2. Oh -- you will need a recent version of e2fsprogs
> >
> >J.
> 
> So, unlike what I read in ReiserFS, I can just hang out on this for a 
> while and then upgrade at my leisure?  This is so totally cool
> Is there an performance difference between this "conversion" and 
> starting from scratch?

I have converted all my partitions to ext3 quite quickly -- the
filesystem format is the same, and tune2fs will jsut add a file to it
(it will be called ".journal") - then, change fstab, install new kernel
with ext3 support, and reboot.
See, there's no difference between "converting" and "starting from
scratch'. Starting from scratch would mean create a ext2 filesystem and
add the journal file to it, etc... (And this is absolutely great!)

Read some documentation on ext3:

http://people.spoiled.org/jha/ext3-faq.html

J.

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Re: building my own .debs

2001-11-10 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 01:45:17PM -0600, Colin Watson wrote:
> 
> http://www.debian.org/devel/ has just about all the references,
> including the New Maintainer's Guide.

Thanks. I glanced at the packages needing maintainers, and I'm not sure
I'm qualified to handle any on that list. I'm a decent C coder, but it would
take some ramp-up time to fix bugs in someone else's product like that. 
The closest might be gftp, but it's already flagged with a severe security
problem. It'd probably take me a while to get up to speed on it. 

Mike

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Re: ext3 to be in 2.4.15!

2001-11-10 Thread Tom Allison

Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote:



See, there's no difference between "converting" and "starting from
scratch'. Starting from scratch would mean create a ext2 filesystem and
add the journal file to it, etc... (And this is absolutely great!)

Read some documentation on ext3:

http://people.spoiled.org/jha/ext3-faq.html

J.




COOL!!!   COOL!!!   COOL!!!

I have something to PLAY with tomorrow



Re: Xwindows GUI

2001-11-10 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 09:48:34PM -0700, 57j ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I just installed Debian and made the mistake of turning on the Xwindows GUI
> login. How do I turn that off and startup with the text prompt?
> 
> Thanks,
> Cathy Cramer

There's a short FAQ on GNU/Linux X display manager disabling you may
find useful, at:

http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/xdm-disable.html

Thank you.


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Re: dpkg problem

2001-11-10 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 05:10:20PM -0600, Cheryl Homiak ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
>
> Thank you. I found only two "tr" files: one in /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/tr and
> the other, actually a directory, in /usr/share/locale. So I decided that
> before jumping to conclusions I would reinstall textutils, using "apt-get
> --reinstall install textutils". After doing this, I had no problem with
> fully installing locales and the package that had originally alerted me to
> this problem.

Interesting.  Any idea how you managed to lose textutils?

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Woody Gnome login is Slow!

2001-11-10 Thread hanasaki
Since upgrading to woody, it seems to take a long time to log in.  There 
is also a major pause prior to the Gnome splash screen coming up.





Woody and XFree driver for voodoo 3500 TV

2001-11-10 Thread hanasaki

since the upgrade, video performance is pretty bad.  What could cuase this?

Thanks,



Re: Audio-CD not readable

2001-11-10 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 10:19:57AM +0100, Angel Parra ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hello!!
> k
> I have some audio-cd's that can`t be readed on my CD-reader (and I
> think that in no one) This CD's are the new "anti-copy" tecnique. I
> nearly sure that the secret off the anticopy is to pot wrong CRC on
> fisical media, on some samples. Of course the discograpic give you a
> player, for windos, and what happend with linux, os/2, mac ...??
> 
> My question. I have a IDE CD-reader and a IDE CD-recorder, with ICSI
> emulation. Wher can I find inside kernel (version 2.2.20) the CRC
> check for audio/data CD's, I will wanth to switch it off and check if
> it's posible to read the "bad CD". Or if you have any other idea or
> know aout ani cd-player that suports this kind of CD`s?

This has been covered in several news reports, see the Register:

Old code defeats new CD anti-ripping technologies
Tony Smith, 10 August, 2001
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/archive/20947.html

'Hi-fi nuking' CD technology safe claims developer
Tony Smith, 10 August, 2001
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/20945.html

CD anti-piracy system can nuke hi-fi kit
Tony Smith, 3 August, 2001
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/20809.html

Anti-rip CD system bypassed
Tony Smith, 1 August, 2001
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/20766.html

There is new content restriction technology being used, without notice,
on audio CDROMs.  The technology is incompatible with computer CD
players, and may harm some audio equipment.

My suggestion:  return the disk(s) as defective to your vendor.  Sue the
bejesus out of them if they balk.  Publish then name of the store,
recording lable, and artist who are using this technology, and tell the
store you will be doing this.  Post the names here.  

Avoid all the involved players like the plague.

Peace.

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Re: Thoghts on a computer as a stero component?

2001-11-10 Thread Aniartia
On Saturday 10 November 2001 19:03, Stan Brown wrote:
> OK, I'v got the bug.
>
> I'm siting here thinking about giving my stero system (medium high end) a
> computer for Christmas :-)
>
> Seroiousl what have people done for computers used promarliy as a steror
> system component? Seems to me tahe niose sheidling would be priority No.1,
> followed closely by a reasonably compact design, and then, a failry smalle,
> but usuable display.

My system is made up with rackmount units so I used a rackmount PC, I doubt 
that'll be sutible for you though, I duno what the case is it was from a 
computer fair.

For a small PC try the Asus Terminator I've got the P-III version it's small, 
quiet & everything is supported in linux. I'm using it to write this email. 
This thing runs 24/7 with a half speed P-III 866 (no need for fan on the HS), 
512Mb PC-133 & the latest Seagate HDD, I've changed the fan in mine for 
something quiter. It's no speed demon but it's not slow either.
http://www.digit-life.com/articles/asusterminator/

The Shuttle SV24 is better looking, smaller, but louder as it uses a 60mm 
fan, the asus uses a slow 92mm fan. I think the only thing that is slighly 
suspect is the audio but its got a PCI slot so that can be solved. 
http://www.tech-report.com/reviews/2001q4/shuttle-sv24/index.x?pg=1

Noise isn't too much of a problem with these things, the Asus with just it's 
2mm fan runs cool and is almost silent.

Ani



snmpd eating memory

2001-11-10 Thread Quietman
I have a strange problem with one of my potato boxes, snmpd sits and
slowly eats up all the memory.

The box in question has hand-built 2.2.17 kernel, snmpd 4.1.1-2.

Since being started on 27th October it is now using 90596k according to
memstat, this on a 96meg box. I cannot work out what is going on, the
only thing snmpd is used for on this box is for mrtg to report on
bandwidth usage.

I have two other potato boxes with the same version of snmpd being used
for the same purpose without this problem. One has kernel 2.4.3, the
other 2.2.19.

Any ideas where the problem might lie?

Cheers,
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Re: weird nvidia problem in unstable

2001-11-10 Thread Victor Julien
Hmmm, weird, tried your suggestion, and now it works fine. Even with 
libc6-2.2.4-5. I thought that 'make install' in the nvidia_glx directory 
removed all conflicting files...

Well, everything is fine now.
Thanx


On Saturday 10 November 2001 20:54, Dominique Deleris wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Nov 2001 20:40:24 +0100, Victor Julien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> said:
>
>  Victor> Hi Dominique,
>  Victor> Since yesterday i had the same problem, i run debian-testing.
> Going back to Victor> libc6-2.2.4-3 solved my problem! So nvidia in
> combination with libc6 seems to Victor> be the problem.
>
>  Victor> Good luck,
>  Victor> Victor
>
> Here is what "Mental" replied to me:
> ---
> I had some conflicting libGL.so* files in /usr/X11R6/lib
> Check if you do. If you do, rm /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so* and run
> ldconfig.
> ---
>
> It solved my problem.
>
> So I wonder what is the relation with libc6 version?
>
> Cheers,



update problems

2001-11-10 Thread Alan Chandler
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Last weekend I attempted to update my [small home] server (with a dselect
update) to the latest version of "testing".  I was previously running testing
but I had not updated it for several months

It failed - disasterously - in that everything started crashing and I ended
up restoring from backup

I tried it again this weekend (I assumed the problem was a temporary blip -
since query on this list brought no response), but it has failed in exactly
the same way.

It seems to be updating libc6 at the time - and as soon as it has updated,
dpkg gets no further (it starts seg faulting) and much of the rest of the
system doesn't work either.  Applications segfault - ssh eventually kills its
connection - attempt to login on the main console fails and even starting
linux with the init=/bin/sh command line just hangs..

In the end I had to recover by restoring the whole of /lib (and its
subdirectories) from a backup.  I tried just restoring /lib/libc* and
/lib/i686/libc* but that didn't work

Trouble is now I am stuck.  How do I get my "testing" configuration up to
date?
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Re: Gigabyte GA-7ZX & sound chip

2001-11-10 Thread Felix von Delius
hi keith,

i have a GA-7ZXR, also with onboard sound. to let the sound work i
have compiled the kernel (2.4.13) with the following options:

CONFIG_SOUND=y
CONFIG_SOUND_ES1371=m

...the command lsmod gives me the following output:

wind:/usr/src/linux# lsmod
Module  Size  Used by
NVdriver  657600  34  (autoclean)
usb-uhci   20932   0  (unused)
usbcore50784   1  [usb-uhci]
es1371 26752   0 
ac97_codec  9376   0  [es1371]

...and /etc/modules contains:

rtl8139
es1371
usb-uhci

...and the simple test

# cat /boot/vmlinuz >/dev/dsp

makes a horrible noise ;-)

but i dunno if it works on stable, running sid since i installed the
box here...

hope it helps!

-felix

On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 05:46:56PM +, Keith O'Connell wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am now stuck. I am unable to get sound out of the box in front of me,
> and I am at the end of the list of things I can try.
> 
> I have a machine based on a Gigabyte GA-7ZX. It has a 1.2 Ghz AMD and
> 512Mb. I have managed to establish that the sound chip on the board
> requires the es1371 module, and this I selected at installation time,
> and it duly appears in /etc/modules.
> 
> This is where the problem arises. If the module is left in the
> /etc/modules file, then my Gnome desktop locks up solid and the only way
> out is to pull the power lead out of the back of the box! If es1371 is
> commented-out then Gnome runs perfectly, but in absolute silence.
> 
> I have had sound running fine on two other boxes with different sound
> chips, so I am reasonably sure that my method is good in principle, but
> I cannot get it to work in with particular combination. Hopefully
> someone else has encountered, and solved, what I clearly cannot.
> 
> My only requirement is that the solution does not go outside "stable". I
> am finding Linux a big enough challange without bringing in
> "testing/unstable/sid" into the equation
> 
> Can any one help?
> 
> Keith
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Support for MS-6378 motherboard

2001-11-10 Thread hanasaki

Has anyone had a good/bad experience with this?

Thanks,



Re: Problem in my CD-Roms

2001-11-10 Thread sloopy malibu
on 11/10/01 3:41 AM using moldy cheese [EMAIL PROTECTED] engraved this
message

> Dear technicians of Site,
> Hello, I hope you have the great time. I want to ask questions about my
> corrupt CD-ROMS. I hope you help me.
> In fact our four number of CD-ROM   were corrupted and I don’t know how to
> repair them. I contact with the manufacturer of products but they said me
> that the dealers should be repairing them but they don’t know anything about
> repairing. I research and couldn’t understand their problem and neither
> could they.
> Would you please help me to repairing them? The CD-ROM connects to SCSSII
> Controller and I sure that the SCSII cards are correct. The system whether
> didn’t find the CD-ROM or the LED of Drives light forever. Can I solve these
> problems with your help or not?
> I wait to receive your recommends and your guidance.
> With the best wishes,
> Ali
> 
> 
> _
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> 

if i understand you correctly and the LEDS on the cd-rom's are always lit
then check to make sure the scsi ribbon cable is plugged in the right way
(pin 1 on drive is cennected to pin 1 on cable...) this will make them
unreadable if it is backwards...

sloopy.



Re: remote install progress?

2001-11-10 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 03:22:51PM -0500, Tom Allison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> OK, so I nuked a partition and started building a new Debian 
> installation using a floppy disk to boot from.
> 
> I'm trying to put together something here that I can have someone use to 
> boot a computer 1,000 miles away and I can use SSH to install everything 
> else necessary to turn that computer into a Debian GNU/Linux server.
> 
> Originally, it looked like I could just install everything via CD-ROM.
> But this distro I've created is so tiny that I can (maybe) fit it into a 
> floppy disk!!!  (Yes, it would have saved time if I had know this earlier..)
> 
> Question -- what I have now is a hard drive and a floopy boot disk.
> 
> I can't exactly ship this in it's current form.
> How do I convert this into a boot disk?

What's on the floppy?

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Re: ext3 to be in 2.4.15!

2001-11-10 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 12:37:34PM -0500, Michael P. Soulier ([EMAIL 
PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 11:10:50AM -0600, DvB wrote:
> > ... it's in as of 2.4.15-pre2
> > 
> > http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/testing/patch-2.4.15.log
> 
> Great, they're weren't even done with 2.4.14 yet. Is it just me, or are
> they churning out releases too damn fast for comfort? I am reassured by
> Debian's slow release cycle that it will be of high quality. Kernel.org is
> slowly becoming as bad as any other big company. 

You clearly don't recall the time of hourly kernel releases ;-)

Granted, this was 0.9x days, IIRC.

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Re: /var/log/messages on the desktop

2001-11-10 Thread Sean Quinlan
--- Sunny Dubey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (2001-11-10 14:40):
> how do people get messages that get added to /var/log/messages printed to 
> their desktops ??

Try the package root-tail.

Cheers,
Sean

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