Re: Mail woes after upgrade to potato

1999-10-25 Thread Mark Brown
On Sun, Oct 24, 1999 at 10:38:15PM +0100, Patrick Kirk wrote:

> 1. eximconfig -i seems to start exim.  How do I stop it and restart it?
> pstree shows no exim.

If exim is being run from inetd it won't be a continually running
process but instead will only be started when something actually wants
to talk to it.  This is the default mode of operation.

> 2. How can I get fetchmail added to the daemons that are controlled from
> init.d?  I know there's a skeleton there but I don't want to spend ages
> rebooting to get it working.  Does anyome have a working script?

Take the skeleton and replace the start-stop-daemon line in start with

   su username -c "fetchmail -ad 600"

(username being the user you run fetchmail as and the bit in quotes
being your favoured method of starting fetchmail).  If there's any
output produced by that command, you may want to redirect it to
/dev/null.  Change the equivalent bit in stop to say

   su username -c "fetchmail -q"

I actually do this in ip-up.d and ip-down.d, but the idea is the same
regardless.

> 3. I had fetchmail running in daemon mode when exim was not for 4 hours.
> Anyone got any thoughts on what became of the messages I sent and the
> messages that were pulled down by fetchmail during this period.

They ought to still be sitting on the server (possibly marked as read -
you may need to use the -a option to pull them down).  Fetchmail doesn't
delete messages until it the SMTP server says its accepted them.

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Re: How do you start GNOME?

1999-10-25 Thread Martin Fluch
On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Art Lemasters wrote:

> On Sun, Oct 24, 1999 at 04:50:57PM +0100, Patrick Kirk wrote:
> > Thanks.  It seems I have TWM and need someting a little more user friendly.
> > Enlightenment probably.
> 
>  I run enlightenment.  In an Eterm (or xterm), try
> 
> gnome-panel &
> 
> ...not sure, since I don't have the panel installed again, yet, but
> I think that's it.  You can run it from a term or insert the line (above)
> just before the enlightenment start line in your .xsession file, if you
> are running xdm.

its not 'gnome-panel' but only 'panel'...
Martin

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Two different FTP problems

1999-10-25 Thread Daniel Lesage
Hi all.

I've been having trouble FTPing to my Debian box over my LAN for a while
now. Here's what happens:

Problem 1) I can't FTP as root, and I understand why. But one (and only
one) of
my users is also unable to FTP there, getting the same error message as when I
try as root. That user is not listed in the ftphosts file. What gives?

Problem 2) I'm able to connect using any other user name. But trying to
upload 
files results in "Permission Denied", regardless of where I try to upload. 
Home directories' permissions look fine (rwxr-xr-x). 

I'd appreciate any input on these.

Thanks,
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Re: Cannot telnet on my SMTP port

1999-10-25 Thread Shaul Karl
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm trying to configure fetchmail to retrieve my mail from my pop3
> server.
> However, something goes wrong when fetchmail tries to send retrieved
> messages to my SMTP port.
> Fetchmail send a messages like : "SMTP connection failed"
> I checked if I can telnet my SMTP port and I can't.
> --> trying 127.0.0.1...
> --> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: connection refused
> 
> Fetchmail FAQ suggest to fix that first; I tried to, but I wasn't
> successful.
> 

I had something like that when I deleted by mistake the relevant line from 
/etc/inetd.conf.
With exim it is something like:

[02:16:38 /tmp]$ grep smtp /etc/inetd.conf
smtpstream  tcp nowait  mail/usr/sbin/exim exim -bs
[02:16:45 /tmp]$



Re: Two different FTP problems

1999-10-25 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Daniel Lesage wrote:

 : Hi all.
 : 
 : I've been having trouble FTPing to my Debian box over my LAN for a while
 : now. Here's what happens:
 : 
 : Problem 1) I can't FTP as root, and I understand why. But one (and only
 : one) of
 : my users is also unable to FTP there, getting the same error message as when 
I
 : try as root. That user is not listed in the ftphosts file. What gives?

If a user's shell is not listed in /etc/shells then they will be denied
ftp access.  Ensure the user's shell is listed in /etc/shells.

 : Problem 2) I'm able to connect using any other user name. But trying to
 : upload 
 : files results in "Permission Denied", regardless of where I try to upload. 
 : Home directories' permissions look fine (rwxr-xr-x). 

I'd like to know what ftp daemon you run before attempting to answer
this one (ProFTP has a conf file, for example).

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Re: Winbond-based generic NICs

1999-10-25 Thread Brandon Beretta
Hello Aaron,

On Sunday, October 24, 1999, you wrote:

AVC> Hi all -

AVC>   I'm doing some superhero work here, rescuing fellow students from the
AVC> Gates of hell and introducing them to sweet, brand GNU, true freedom.

AVC>   Trouble is, on this one machine I can't get the NIC driver to load :(.

AVC>   It has a winbond chip in it, and it's supposed to be 'ne2k compatible,'
AVC> but the ne2k-pci module won't load. I get some of the more common module
AVC> loading errors (device is busy... etc).

AVC>   My question is this: does anyone know what to do about not-quite ne2000
AVC> clones (PCI) that won't probe? the card's plug and play, and the kernel 
sees
AVC> it -- a cat of /proc/pci lists the NIC loud and clear, including IRQ and
AVC> base I/O address.

AVC>   Any help would be appreciated ;)

If the NIC is manufactured by Accton, try loading the RTL8139 module.

Good luck...


Best regards,
Brandon

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Re: Network config problems - please help

1999-10-25 Thread Harlan Crystal
I believe this results from when you upgrade your 
kernel from the older series to the 2.2.x series.  
The older kernels had a "Route" command which is used 
in various startup scripts, but the newer series 
is "smarter" and no longer requires the route command 
so it doesn't exist.  These error messages shouldn't be 
hurting anything, but you can try commenting out the line lines 
which use the "route" command in /etc/init.d/network

 - harlan

> -Original Message-
> From: Stephan Hachinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, October 24, 1999 4:49 PM
> To: Debian User
> Subject: Network config problems - please help
> 
> 
> Hello!
> 
> I've got problems setting up my network card (Etherlink III 509b) on my
> slink box, running a self-compiled 2.2.12 kernel.
> The network tools in netbase are recompiled potato ones.
> 
> When booting, I get the messages (from which program???):
> 
> SIOCADDART: Invalid argument
> SIOCSIFADDR: Operation not supported by device
> slip: unknown interface: Operation not supported by device
> SIOCSIFNETMASK: Operation not supported by device
> SIOCSIFBRDADDR: Operation not supported by device
> slip: unknown interface: Operation not supported by device
> SIOCADDART: Invalid argument
> 
> (funny; I have not compiled slip support and don't need it - 
> which setup is
> wrong here???)
> 
> The ethernet card is, as the kernel and isapnp display, correctly
> configured.
> 
> But, when I try ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.5, I get:
> 
> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource temporarily unavailable.
> 
> 
> Can someone please give me some hints about it?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Stephan Hachinger
> 
> 
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Re: Just went tp potato

1999-10-25 Thread Darren Benham
In linux.debian.user, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>Just upgraded from slink to potato and seem to be having a few mail
>troubles.  How can I tell if exim is running?  It never shows up in pstree?
>
>Patrick
>
Also.. when you upgraded exim, you should have seen an install message
telling you that the format of the exim file has changed.  You need to go
verify the changes and then check the exim entry in /etc/inetd.conf

(search for disabled or exim and you'll find it)


You'll also have to restart inetd (/etc/init.d/inetd restart)


Re: Switch from static IP to DHCP

1999-10-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
Art Lemasters ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> /etc/resolve.conf

Should be `/etc/resolv.conf'.

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Re: 2 problems -- building the 2.0.36 kernel; login error

1999-10-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> 2. When I login as any user other than root, the system rejects
> me with the error msg:
> 
> "System bootup in progress -- please wait"

rm /etc/nologin

Then try to find out why the nologin file was left lying around

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Re: offtopic: perl question about dialog.pl

1999-10-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
Olaf Conradi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> Use of implicit split to @_ is deprecated at ./dialog.pl line 34.

> $message_len = split(/^/, $message);# <-- line 34

Split normally returns an array, not a scalar... unless I'm missing something.
(I'm no perl guru.)

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Re: 2 problems -- building the 2.0.36 kernel; login error

1999-10-25 Thread Shaul Karl
I believe that installing the deb of the kernel-image 2.0.36 will get you to 
2.0.36.

As for the boot question, i do not know. Perhaps you should wait a bit more ?
--- Begin Message ---




1. I upgraded Debian 1.3.1 --> 2.1, but my 
kernel is still 2.0.29.
What should I do to upgrade the kernel to 2.0.36?
 
2. When I login as any user other than root, the system 
rejects
me with the error msg:
 
    
"System bootup in progress -- please wait"
 
I incrementally killed all daemons running to see if one of 
them
was prohibiting the login.  But the problem still 
occurred. I then
re-ran adduser to make sure my password was right.  But 
the
problem still happens.  Anyone have any 
clues?
 
Thanks,
Charlie
 
--- End Message ---


Re: trashing Netscape (was Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!)

1999-10-25 Thread Daniel Barclay



> From: Pann McCuaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> On Fri, Oct 22, 1999 at 21:28, Daniel Barclay wrote:

> > 
> > No, no, no.  Netscape can be just as horribly unstable on glibc 2.0
> > systems.  I know.  I suffer from it every day.
> 
> I hate to rain on your parade, but LOTS of people run Netscape 4.5 and
> 4.6 with libc 2.0 systems without difficulty. 

Wait a second.

How does that conflict with anything I said?

I didn't say Netscape was unstable.  I said Netscape can be unstable.  


> ...
> Obviously, YMMV, but I think it's something other than Netscape giving
> you fits, even though the symptoms are Netscape crashes.

If it is, I'd sure like to find it.  

Why do you think it's something other than Netscape?  Is there anything 
in particular that you're thinking of, or any particular symptom that 
makes you think that?


(Note that the difference between failures on my system (and others) and 
success on your system (and others) is not just our systems, it's also
our usage patterns.  

You might not be using Netscape extensively enough to trigger the bugs.

Maybe usage pattern differences are something to explore. 

Do you (and others):
- - have Java enabled?
- - have Javascript enabled?
- - typically open just one or two windows or open many?
- - have just a few bookmarks or a big, messy pile (like, say, 2000 of them) 
  you'll never quite get sorted?
- - open a lot of windows using "open in new window" (middle mouse button)?
)



Please check this one for me (I don't see how this can be anything other
than a Netscape bug, but if it is something else, I'd like to know):

On any Unix (X11) version of Communicator:
- - open the bookmarks window
- - click on a bookmark to select it
- - open the bookmark properties window (via the right-click menu)
- - leaving the bookmark properties window open,
- - click on a separator in the bookmarks window
- - click on some other bookmark window entry

Does Communicator crash with a bus error?? 


(This has crashed on every version I've tried. 

I've tried Linux glibc versions of 4.7, 4.6x, 4.5x, and several 4.0x 
releases.  I'm sure I checked some libc5 versions of 4.xx, though I 
can't swear to it.  (I'm downloading the libc5 version of 4.7 as I 
type this.)  

I tried a 4.xx version on _Solaris_. 

In my tests, this has never failed to crash.

>From the consistency of failure, and from the particular UI actions
involved, I don't see how that can be anything other than a programming 
error in Netscape (trying to update bookmark entry strings from the 
properties dialog box when the selection changes in the bookmarks window, 
but forgetting to check whether the old selected object is a separator, 
which doesn't have strings to update).

That doesn't prove that any other errors are Netscape bugs, but it does
prove that Netscape is not bug-free.

(By the way, I reported that bug to Netscape when I isolated it several
months ago in 4.6x.  The fact that the bug remains in 4.7 shows that
Netscape's quality control system definitely leaves something to be
desired.)

)




Daniel
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Re: Netscape's toolbar is black & white?

1999-10-25 Thread Sean Johnson
I seem to remember this being a known bug with running Netscape in X @ 24-bit 
color.
Supposedly changing the color depth to 32 or 16-bits or less will keep that from
happening. I could be wrong, but it might be worth a try.

Sean

Colin Telmer wrote:

> Hi, the toolbar and frame around netscape 4.71 is black and white although
> the pages I view are in color. This has actually being happening for some
> time starting a few netscape verions back in time. I am not exhuasting any
> colormaps as all other programs started before or after are in color. Has
> anyone else experienced this? If so, can it be corrected? I have tried
> purging and reinstalling netscape with no avail. I assume it is a library
> problem, but I can't figure it out. I am running the most up-to-date
> version of unstable (updated yesterday). Any help would be gratefully
> appreciated. Cheers, Colin.
>
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> 
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Re: 2 problems -- building the 2.0.36 kernel; login error

1999-10-25 Thread Brad
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On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 1. I upgraded Debian 1.3.1 --> 2.1, but my kernel is still 2.0.29.
> What should I do to upgrade the kernel to 2.0.36?

If you have apt, apt-get install kernel-image-2.0.36

If you don't have apt, you can download the deb file manually and install
it. Or you can get apt (i'd recommend the latter)

> 2. When I login as any user other than root, the system rejects
> me with the error msg:
> 
> "System bootup in progress -- please wait"
> 
> I incrementally killed all daemons running to see if one of them
> was prohibiting the login.  But the problem still occurred. I then
> re-ran adduser to make sure my password was right.  But the
> problem still happens.  Anyone have any clues?

Do you have a /etc/nologin file? If so, that's probably what's preventing
non-root users from logging in. Why it's still around after the system
finishes booting, i don't know.


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dselect error message

1999-10-25 Thread Jeff French
Attempting install of slink
AMD K-5 PR-166, 49152K ram
Install media on CD

After [I]nstall begins, a message appears on screen:
...
Scanning available packages...Cannot open /var/lib/dpkg
/methods/multicd/available: No such file or directory.

installation script returned error exit status 1.
...

What does this mean? How do I overcome this problem?
Thanks for your help,

Jeff French, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  This is a link to Eric S. Raymond's
  http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Reading-List-HOWTO.html


zdisk boots, bzdisk won't - Thinkpad 560

1999-10-25 Thread John Miskinis

Hello,

I have noticed that when I create a boot floppy with "make zdisk"
it will boot, but when using "make bzdisk" it will not.  I had to
use the "tecra" rescue and driver disks when installing, and
I wonder if this is somehow related to the IBM Thinkpad 560.

Or, is there something else going on in the picture?

Any info, or pointers to it would be helpful,

John

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Re: Network config problems - please help

1999-10-25 Thread Brad
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On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Harlan Crystal wrote:

> I believe this results from when you upgrade your 
> kernel from the older series to the 2.2.x series.  
> The older kernels had a "Route" command which is used 
> in various startup scripts, but the newer series 
> is "smarter" and no longer requires the route command 
> so it doesn't exist.

The route command still exists under newer kernels. The newer kernels are
just smart enough to figure out a default route in normal configurations.
If you have an atypical configuration (which many people do) route is
still very necessary.

You're probably right that that is causing the errors mentioned in the
original post, though.


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Error using apt-get install

1999-10-25 Thread David J. Kanter
I messed something up but don't know how to fix it. I installed ntpdate,
then accidentally removed it, then tried to re-install it, and this is the
error I get:

update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/ntpdate: file does not exist
/var/lib/dpkg/info/ntpdate.postinst: /etc/init.d/ntpdate: No such file or
directory
dpkg: error processing ntpdate (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127
Errors were encountered while processing:
 ntpdate
E: Sub-process returned an error code (1)

Thanks for any help.

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Re: zdisk boots, bzdisk won't - Thinkpad 560

1999-10-25 Thread Ed Samour
> Any info, or pointers to it would be helpful,

Hi. Here's some info that may help you. Instead of using make zImage try the
following:

dd if=/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage of=/dev/fd0 bs=18k   
rdev /dev/fd0 /dev/hdXX

Where XX is the name of your main linux partition. Let me know if that works 
you. 


Ed Samour
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RE: zdisk boots, bzdisk won't - Thinkpad 560

1999-10-25 Thread Pollywog

On 25-Oct-99 John Miskinis wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have noticed that when I create a boot floppy with "make zdisk"
> it will boot, but when using "make bzdisk" it will not.  I had to
> use the "tecra" rescue and driver disks when installing, and
> I wonder if this is somehow related to the IBM Thinkpad 560.
> 
> Or, is there something else going on in the picture?

Laptops don't like compressed kernels; I cannot use 'make bzImage' on my
ThinkPad 560.

--
Andrew


Re: Need help for x window

1999-10-25 Thread M.K.Pai

Just my $ 0.02.

Use xf86config. I like it more than tha xf86setup. Use the most generic
freqs. It always works.

The reason I started to use xf86config was that I was using a lousy
no-name cheap cheap b/w monitor from an Indian company that had gone out
of business. And believe me, I was pleased with the results.

PAI


Re: x-windows

1999-10-25 Thread Kent West
raymond ferrari wrote:
> 
> Like another post to this list recently(Bryan Walton w. response from
> Kent West), I have a problem starting x. I have the directory /etc/X11
> and a file for XF86(I did choose to install x during the dselect
> process: desktop system) however, when I  startx I get a fatal error and
> the following:
> _X11 TransSocket Unix Connect:Can't connect errno+111 giving up
> xinit:Connection refused errno111 unable to connect to x server...
> waiting for x server to shut down...init: x server slow to shut down
> sending kill signal
> xinit:no such process (errno3):server error
> 
> could someone help us bring up something besides the command line,
> however I am learning by need.
> thanks...ray ferrari
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There should be some more info previous to the error message you
sent. Assuming you're trying to start X with the startx command,
you can capture the output of any error messages with
"startx 2 > error.log". Then you can send the contents of that
file to the list for better diagnostics.

However, my first guess is that you don't have an xserver
specified in /etc/X11/Xserver. Look at the first line of that
file and make sure it says something like
/usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA.


Re: adding win 95 partition

1999-10-25 Thread Dwayne C . Litzenberger
If you need to look at splitting an ext2 partition.  Have a look at
ext2resize.  It seems to work for me, but MAKE SURE YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR
FILESYSTEM MOUNTED READ-WRITE, OR IT WILL GET CORRUPTED IRREVOCABLY.

Other than that, it works great for me.

On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 12:58:35PM -0500, James Ruby wrote:
> I'm wondering if this can be donw with out re-installing debian?
> 
> I have a 20 gb drive with 5 gb for root and 5 gb for user and 128 mb swap
> they are all primary partitions.
> 
> Now I have a little over 9 gb left, I would like to devide this in half and
> make partitions that windows 95 can see and use, can I do this with out
> trashing the drive and starting over?
> 
> So far the things I've tried with cfdisk did not work, there are about four
> different win 95 fat 32 options.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [TEST] Ignore

1999-10-25 Thread Dwayne C . Litzenberger
Debian is a nonprofit organisation.  It costs them (and therefore us) to
distribute messages.  Therefore, please do not use our mailing lists to
test your mail system.

Thank you

On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 03:23:54PM -0700, Wim Kerkhoff wrote:
> You shouldn't be reading this!
 
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Re: non-us apt-get config

1999-10-25 Thread Dwayne C . Litzenberger
> I use that for the german mirror - as you see. I think ftp.debian.org should
> also work.

Nope.  ftp.debian.org is in the US. 
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Re: Dialing modem out when there are messages in message box.

1999-10-25 Thread Dwayne C . Litzenberger
X3

/etc/chatscripts/provider   (or whatever)

change:
  OK ATDT555-1212
to
  OK ATX3DT555-1212

(as appropriate)

On Sun, Oct 24, 1999 at 01:28:14PM -0700, Christopher R. Barry wrote:
> If your line is beeping due to messages in your message box, what
> modem init string due you use to force the modem to dial out anyways,
> and where do you put it?
> 
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Re: adding win 95 partition

1999-10-25 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Sun, Oct 24, 1999 at 09:52:59PM -0600, Dwayne C . Litzenberger wrote:
> If you need to look at splitting an ext2 partition.  Have a look at
> ext2resize.  It seems to work for me, but MAKE SURE YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR
> FILESYSTEM MOUNTED READ-WRITE, OR IT WILL GET CORRUPTED IRREVOCABLY.
> 
  Could you explain how to reclaim that space. I semi-successfully used
  ext2resize in the past, but I couldn't get the changed partition size
  correctly reflected in my partition table. The instructions were a
  little negligent on this part. I ended up repartitioning and
  reinstalling after f**ing up my partion table and filesystem. Kinda
  defeated the whole exercise.
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Re: trashing Netscape (was Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!)

1999-10-25 Thread Pann McCuaig
On Sun, Oct 24, 1999 at 16:17, Daniel Barclay wrote:
> You might not be using Netscape extensively enough to trigger the bugs.
> 
> Maybe usage pattern differences are something to explore. 
> 
> Do you (and others):
> - - have Java enabled?
Yup.
> - - have Javascript enabled?
Yup.
> - - typically open just one or two windows or open many?
One or two, sometimes as many as four.
> - - have just a few bookmarks or a big, messy pile (like, say, 2000 of them) 
>   you'll never quite get sorted?
Not 2000, maybe 100.
> - - open a lot of windows using "open in new window" (middle mouse button)?
Nope.

> Please check this one for me (I don't see how this can be anything other
> than a Netscape bug, but if it is something else, I'd like to know):
> 
> On any Unix (X11) version of Communicator:
Alas, I use only Navigator, not the whole Communicator package.
> - - open the bookmarks window
> - - click on a bookmark to select it
> - - open the bookmark properties window (via the right-click menu)
> - - leaving the bookmark properties window open,
> - - click on a separator in the bookmarks window
> - - click on some other bookmark window entry
> 
> Does Communicator crash with a bus error?? 
Nope, works just fine -- I can click until I'm blue in the face and
Netscape (Navigator) just keeps on truckin'.

I'm not suggesting that Netscape is bug free, but it sounds to me like
you're on a mission to stress test it to failure. Why 2000 bookmarks for
heaven's sake? How many Netscape windows is it useful to have open at
once?

Other things I'd look at: What window manager are you using? Does
Netscape give you fits under several different window managers? What
other tasks are running? What does top tell you about your resources?
Etc., etc.

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rpm package broken ?

1999-10-25 Thread Darxus

I just did

 apt-get update
 apt-get install rpm
 rpm -i Device3Dfx-2.2-3.src.rpm

And got "rpm: error in loading shared libraries: libbz2.so.0.1: cannot
open shared object file: No such file or directory"

Did a "locate libbz2.so", found nothing.  Did a search for packages
containing libbz2.so at http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages.html, and
found nothing.

So how do I make it go ?


I have a 3DFX Voodoo3 graphics card, and 3DFX only maintains its X server
in RPMs.  I've made this work before using force, and I've recently had to
reinstall.

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pain in the a-- guys monitor problem solved

1999-10-25 Thread jh
I want to thank the list for all the help and advice you have been giving
me. I am the one who has been trying to run xf86config to set up x-windows.
As you may know I do not have any specs for my monitor, and every time I
would run xf86config I would get a scrambled screen. During my probably
50th attempt to configure, and the monitor was scrambled, my hand darted
out and turned the monitor off and on. Guess what came back? A beautiful
x-window. It seems there is some kind of problem with the monitor itself.
When I bought this computer several months ago the lady said there was some
problem. I did not notice it because I was mostly fooling around with dos.
Apparently it doesn't like graphics. Anyway, x is coming up fine and when
it doesn't I flip the monitor off and on.

How's that for a simple, idiotic solution?

Jeff



Re: offtopic: perl question about dialog.pl

1999-10-25 Thread Brad
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On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Olaf Conradi wrote:

> Use of implicit split to @_ is deprecated at ./dialog.pl line 34.
> 
> $message_len = split(/^/, $message);# <-- line 34

split always splits to an array. Here, you're trying to get the number of
elements generated by the split call, so it implicitly splits to the @_
array. This is depreciated.

One way to get the same effect would be to use the s/// funtion something
like this:
$message_len = $message=~s/^/^/mog;

There may be other ways. Those other ways may even be better.


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Re: offtopic: perl question about dialog.pl

1999-10-25 Thread Eric G . Miller
For a count of elements in an array

$count = $#array;

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Re: trashing Netscape (was Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!)

1999-10-25 Thread Brad
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On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Pann McCuaig wrote:

> On Sun, Oct 24, 1999 at 16:17, Daniel Barclay wrote:
[[[snip]]]
> > - - open a lot of windows using "open in new window" (middle mouse button)?
> Nope.
> 
[[[snip]]]
> 
> How many Netscape windows is it useful to have open at once?

i open windows with the middle click all the time, it's useful when
following posts on a discussion board or any hierarchy with many links. If
you click and use the back button, you have to wait for Netscape to verify
the page is still up-to-date, possibly reload, and re-render the entire
hierarchy.

Since the Debian maintainters have taken Navigator to libc5, i haven't had
much trouble with bus errors when closing windows. Before then, it
happened all the time.

> Other things I'd look at: What window manager are you using? Does
> Netscape give you fits under several different window managers?

This has been checked, and the wm seems to make little to no difference.
Check the archives.


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Where are gmp2?

1999-10-25 Thread Christian Dysthe
Hi,

I need gmp2 to compile some software. I went to the Debian pages and
found that the package I need are to be found under devel. Then I tried
to run dselect, but gmp2-dev was not not be found. I went back to the
web and tried to download from there, but the deb's are not available.

What gives?

TIA

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Re: Network config problems - please help

1999-10-25 Thread aphro
looks like the driver for the card isnt loaded.

nate

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On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Stephan Hachinger wrote:

> Hello!
> 
> I've got problems setting up my network card (Etherlink III 509b) on my
> slink box, running a self-compiled 2.2.12 kernel.
> The network tools in netbase are recompiled potato ones.
> 
> When booting, I get the messages (from which program???):
> 
> SIOCADDART: Invalid argument
> SIOCSIFADDR: Operation not supported by device
> slip: unknown interface: Operation not supported by device
> SIOCSIFNETMASK: Operation not supported by device
> SIOCSIFBRDADDR: Operation not supported by device
> slip: unknown interface: Operation not supported by device
> SIOCADDART: Invalid argument
> 
> (funny; I have not compiled slip support and don't need it - which setup is
> wrong here???)
> 
> The ethernet card is, as the kernel and isapnp display, correctly
> configured.
> 
> But, when I try ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.5, I get:
> 
> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource temporarily unavailable.
> 
> 
> Can someone please give me some hints about it?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Stephan Hachinger
> 
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Re: More sound problems...

1999-10-25 Thread aphro
you may not be able to get sound because there is not enough free memory
below 16MB for the dma buffer.

in more recent 2.2.x kernels you gotta enable the persistant DMA buffers
in sound config and it will reserve the memory at boot. it may not solve
this problem, but its an idea :)

nate

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On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Chris Mayes wrote:

> Well, before I left for the weekend, I had my sound working.  When I
> returned, my machine had apparently lost power and was sitting there at
> "invalid system disk" because I hada  floppy in the drive.  Anyway, my main
> partition was hosed, so I had to run fsck manually.
> 
> Next, I fired up xmms to make sure my sound was still configured properly. 
> It wasn't.  The program didn't report any errors, but nothing seems to reach
> IRQ5 (or the speakers).  Here are some worrisome kernel messages:
> 
> First of all, this one pops up a lot:
> 
> 
> Oct 24 16:13:04 cmayes kernel: Sound: DMA (output) timed out - IRQ/DRQ
> config error?
> 
> 
> Another odd thing: klogd looks to have been dead long before the crash.  The
> last messages date back to the 18th.  I know for a fact that the machine was
> running then.  The kernel also reports some odd packet deny messages.  I
> haven't a clue what they mean. Here's a sample:
> 
> 
> Oct 18 13:31:53 cmayes kernel: Packet log: output DENY ppp0 PROTO=6
> 199.174.161.119:3188 216.34.4.81:80 L=52 S=0x00 I=46878 F=0x T=64 (#6)
> 
> 
> Now, here's the place that seems to be the main cause of the sound problems.
> Here is the sound module initialization passage from /var/log/messages:
> 
> 
> Oct 24 15:55:52 cmayes kernel: AWE32: not detected
> Oct 24 15:55:52 cmayes kernel: Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by
> Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
> Oct 24 15:55:52 cmayes kernel: SB 4.16 detected OK (220)
> Oct 24 15:55:52 cmayes kernel: SB16: Bad or missing 16 bit DMA channel
> Oct 24 15:55:52 cmayes kernel: YM3812 and OPL-3 driver Copyright (C) by
> Hannu Savolainen, Rob Hooft 1993-1996
> 
> 
> Dmesg says roughly the same thing.  Any clue what might be causing the
> problem?  Could the filesystem damage from the crash be responsible for some
> of it?  Any help would be muchly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -Chris
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Re: 2 problems -- building the 2.0.36 kernel; login error

1999-10-25 Thread aphro
to override that delete the links to nologin in /etc/rc2.d

althnough its best to see whats hanging the machine at boot.

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> 1. I upgraded Debian 1.3.1 --> 2.1, but my kernel is still 2.0.29.
> What should I do to upgrade the kernel to 2.0.36?
> 
> 2. When I login as any user other than root, the system rejects
> me with the error msg:
> 
> "System bootup in progress -- please wait"
> 
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Re: Two different FTP problems

1999-10-25 Thread aphro
some ftp daemons check to see if the user has a valid login shell before
allowing a ftp login. check /etc/shells to see if that user's shell is
listed.

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On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Daniel Lesage wrote:

> Hi all.
> 
> I've been having trouble FTPing to my Debian box over my LAN for a while
> now. Here's what happens:
> 
> Problem 1) I can't FTP as root, and I understand why. But one (and only
> one) of
> my users is also unable to FTP there, getting the same error message as when I
> try as root. That user is not listed in the ftphosts file. What gives?
> 
> Problem 2) I'm able to connect using any other user name. But trying to
> upload 
> files results in "Permission Denied", regardless of where I try to upload. 
> Home directories' permissions look fine (rwxr-xr-x). 
> 
> I'd appreciate any input on these.
> 
> Thanks,
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Re: dselect error message

1999-10-25 Thread aphro
i read a while back(year?) that the multicd support in dselect was rather
broken(i've never had a reason to use it) try using plain cdrom as the
access point rather the multicd

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On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Jeff French wrote:

> Attempting install of slink
> AMD K-5 PR-166, 49152K ram
> Install media on CD
> 
> After [I]nstall begins, a message appears on screen:
> ...
> Scanning available packages...Cannot open /var/lib/dpkg
> /methods/multicd/available: No such file or directory.
> 
> installation script returned error exit status 1.
> ...
> 
> What does this mean? How do I overcome this problem?
> Thanks for your help,
> 
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Re: trashing Netscape (was Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!)

1999-10-25 Thread Kent West
Pann McCuaig wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Oct 24, 1999 at 16:17, Daniel Barclay wrote:
> > You might not be using Netscape extensively enough to trigger the bugs.
> >
> > Maybe usage pattern differences are something to explore.
> >
> > Do you (and others):
> > - - have Java enabled?
> Yup.
> > - - have Javascript enabled?
> Yup.
> > - - typically open just one or two windows or open many?
> One or two, sometimes as many as four.
> > - - have just a few bookmarks or a big, messy pile (like, say, 2000 of them)
> >   you'll never quite get sorted?
> Not 2000, maybe 100.
> > - - open a lot of windows using "open in new window" (middle mouse button)?
> Nope.
> 
> > Please check this one for me (I don't see how this can be anything other
> > than a Netscape bug, but if it is something else, I'd like to know):
> >
> > On any Unix (X11) version of Communicator:
> Alas, I use only Navigator, not the whole Communicator package.
> > - - open the bookmarks window
> > - - click on a bookmark to select it
> > - - open the bookmark properties window (via the right-click menu)
> > - - leaving the bookmark properties window open,
> > - - click on a separator in the bookmarks window
> > - - click on some other bookmark window entry
> >
> > Does Communicator crash with a bus error??
> Nope, works just fine -- I can click until I'm blue in the face and
> Netscape (Navigator) just keeps on truckin'.
> 
> I'm not suggesting that Netscape is bug free, but it sounds to me like
> you're on a mission to stress test it to failure. Why 2000 bookmarks for
> heaven's sake? How many Netscape windows is it useful to have open at
> once?
> 
> Other things I'd look at: What window manager are you using? Does
> Netscape give you fits under several different window managers? What
> other tasks are running? What does top tell you about your resources?
> Etc., etc.

I use Communicator, not just Navigator; perhaps that's the clue.
The test that Daniel suggested crashed my Netscape. I've tried
running with and without Java/Javascript. I can expect Netscape
to crash at least once every time I sit down at the computer (two
or three times a day for 1 to 3 hours a day).

Come to think of it; this is on my home machine. My office
machine doesn't have Netscape crashes near as often. Hmmm.


cdrom lost

1999-10-25 Thread koyote
Well-

 I am running slink (2.1) on a thinkpad laptop. I use a docking station with a
scsi card and cdrom to install, and wanted to add a couple of packages.
 I have done this before without difficulty, but this time I cannot get to the
cdrom as scd0 or cdrom on mnt or dev. 
 There is nothing in fstab or mtab which appears to have anything at all to do
with the cdrom, or the scsi hard drive I want to use for backing up files.
(I haven't modified these files.)

Why is this?
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Re: How to log on an NT 4.0 Server

1999-10-25 Thread Oki DZ


Dirk Lother wrote:

> I'm looking for a way to access an NT Server with a floppy Linux in
> order to save data from broken down NT clients.
> 
> Could you think of a way to do that ?

The easiest way would be accessing the hardware; ie: removing the
harddisk and mount it on your Linux (Linux can read NTFS/HPFS
read-only). But it seems that you only have the floppy for booting
Linux; I believe that it's not that easy having a bootable Linux on
floppies (ie: you have everything, root directory, harddisk and network
support).

Oki



Re: Can't boot from floppies - HELP!

1999-10-25 Thread Oki DZ


Jake Griesbach wrote:
> 
> I'm trying to boot from the Debian rescue disk to install linux for the
> first time.  I have an adaptec AIC-7890 scsi card, so I was typing
> 
> linux aix7xxx
> 
> to boot.
> After the kernel loads, I get the following after the scsi driver loads:
...
> Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:00
> 
> Any ideas?  I tried using three different floppies now, and each give the
> same result.
> 

I think all you need is to boot in-sequence: rescue, root, and driver
disks; don't type anything after the silo's "boot:" prompt, just press
enter.

Oki


Re: trashing Netscape (was Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!)

1999-10-25 Thread Art Lemasters
On Mon, Oct 25, 1999 at 12:13:01AM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> I use Communicator, not just Navigator; perhaps that's the clue.
> The test that Daniel suggested crashed my Netscape. I've tried
> running with and without Java/Javascript. I can expect Netscape
> to crash at least once every time I sit down at the computer (two
> or three times a day for 1 to 3 hours a day).
> 
> Come to think of it; this is on my home machine. My office
> machine doesn't have Netscape crashes near as often. Hmmm.

 ;-)  I just tried that test and had no trouble with Netscape
(latest Communicator 4.7 in potato, Cyrix PR200+, cheap, non-parity
memory,...), although I've had trouble with every other version since
the bo OS.  The only time I've seen Netscape 4.7 crash is when it
competed with a recent Mahjongg process (wife and kids play with it)
for memory.  ;-)

Art



3..2..1..0... boot off

1999-10-25 Thread Oki DZ
Hi,

I have successfully installed debian on my Sun Classic using floppies;
the base system up 'till now. My question is: how do you configure the
keyboard? The keyboard says that it is a model-5. 

I use the "sunkeymap" (not sure, but it is the US-English one) keyboard
setting, but it doesn't work. The keyboard outputs different characters;
if I press "/", "-" is what I get. The "/" on the keypad works though.
How can I configure the keyboard? What program do you use for setting
the keyboard?

BTW, I think installation using floppies is pretty straightforward. I
like debian's ability to reinstall without needing doing it from
scratch; I installed the kernel yesterday (fdisk, etc) and did the rest
today. Now, how can I install the programs other than the ones included
in the base system (?); apt-get...? Pointers please. Basically, I need
sendmail & pop3d, and something that can drop-off email originated from
my mail server on another server on the Net (my local email server can
still deliver locally and forward everything to the other server).  

Thanks in advance,
Oki


Re: Just went tp potato

1999-10-25 Thread Patrick Kirk
What does restarting inetd do?


Re: Just went tp potato

1999-10-25 Thread Darren O. Benham
reloads the inetd.conf file...

On Mon, Oct 25, 1999 at 07:34:07AM +0100, Patrick Kirk wrote:
> What does restarting inetd do?
> 

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Isn't IP Forwarding the default?

1999-10-25 Thread Sanjeev Gupta
Folks,

I am replacing a CISCO router with a Linux box running 2.0.34.  I have
an Emerging Technologies Card, which connects to the V.35 "modem" my ISP 
gave.  The machine refuses to forward packets accross interfaces.

My configuration:

Linux earth 2.0.34 #19 Sun Oct 17 17:03:59 IST 1999 i586 unknown

eth0Local (192.168.x.y) card
eth1"valid" IP card (12.10.198.112/29) card, for mail servers, etc
ets0Card to talk to RF Modem, runs PPP

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> netstat -rn
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt Iface
12.10.199.610.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 1500 0  0 ets0
12.10.198.112   0.0.0.0 255.255.255.248 U  1500 0  0 eth1
192.168.200.0   0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U  1500 0  0 eth0
127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U  3584 0  0 lo
0.0.0.0 12.10.199.610.0.0.0 UG 1500 0  0 ets0

# /sbin/ipfwadm -F -e -p accept

# echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward

IP Masq works beautifully.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> /sbin/ipfwadm -l -v -F
IP firewall forward rules, default policy: accept
type  prot source   destination  ports
acc/m all  arjun.eurolink.stpn.soft.net anywhere n/a
acc/m all  nakul.eurolink.stpn.soft.net anywhere n/a
acc/m all  pc-16.eurolink.stpn.soft.net anywhere n/a
acc/m all  12.10.198.116anywhere n/a

I know I should not have an open router, but that is secondary.  How can I
tell the box to forward, simply, blindly?  I will start firewalling later.

Thanks,


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re: Netscape Installation Problem "segmentation fault

1999-10-25 Thread alf . krause


I got binary distribution of Netscape Communicator 4.61 version for Linux 2.0,
export encription standard from ftp.netscape.com.
I installed it on my Debian 2.1 system. Everything seemed to be fine with
installation until I tried to run "./netscape".
The first problem I got was that netscape "can't load lib "libXt.so.6", so I set
the path variable LD_LIBRARY_PATH =/usr/X11R6/lib (that is where libXt.s0.6 file
is located). Then libXt.so.6 loading is fine but netscape could not find some
lib files such as "libm.so.5". So I reinstalled debian libc5 run-time library
module and copied them to /usr/X11R6/lib. Then the lib loading is fine.
I ran ./netscape again. then comes the another problem saying "28923
segmentation fault  ./netscape". I tried to solve it but could not go any
further.
Could someone help me on this problem and what I can do to fix it.
Thank you

Hi, Daniel,

i had the same problems, but V4.7 from a CD that came with a magazine.

So i went to the netscape homepage and downloaded the glibc Version.
That worked!

Alf



Re: Where are gmp2?

1999-10-25 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Sun, Oct 24, 1999 at 23:58:54 -0500, Christian Dysthe wrote:
> What gives?

They've been renamed to 'libgmp2' and 'libgmp2-dev'.

HTH,
Ray
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Re: Where are gmp2?

1999-10-25 Thread Ingo Reimann
On Sun, Oct 24, 1999 at 11:58:54PM -0500, Christian Dysthe wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I need gmp2 to compile some software. I went to the Debian pages and
> found that the package I need are to be found under devel. Then I tried
> to run dselect, but gmp2-dev was not not be found. I went back to the
> web and tried to download from there, but the deb's are not available.
> 
> What gives?
>
hal:/usr/lib# dpkg -s libgmp2-dev
Package: libgmp2-dev
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: devel
Installed-Size: 315
Maintainer: Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Source: libgmp2
Version: 2.0.2-3.1
Replaces: gmp2-dev
Depends: libgmp2
Conflicts: gmp2-dev
Description: Multiprecision arithmetic library developers tools.
 This development package provides the header files and the symbolic
 links to allow compilation and linking of programs that use the libraries
 provided in the libgmp2 package.

ok ?

Ingo


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Re: rpm package broken ? Hotfix

1999-10-25 Thread Ingo Reimann
On Mon, Oct 25, 1999 at 12:39:04AM -0400, Darxus wrote:
> 
> I just did
> 
>  apt-get update
>  apt-get install rpm
>  rpm -i Device3Dfx-2.2-3.src.rpm
> 
> And got "rpm: error in loading shared libraries: libbz2.so.0.1: cannot
> open shared object file: No such file or directory"
> 
> Did a "locate libbz2.so", found nothing.  Did a search for packages
> containing libbz2.so at http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages.html, and
> found nothing.
> 
> So how do I make it go ?
>
Hi, i had the same problem and fixed it with

cp /usr/lib/libbz2.so.0.9.5d /usr/lib/libbz2.so.0.1

Uhhh!

But it worked...

Happy gaming..

Ingo 


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Re: offtopic: perl question about dialog.pl

1999-10-25 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes
On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Eric G . Miller wrote:

> For a count of elements in an array
> 
> $count = $#array;
   ^
this is the subscript of the last element in array, one less than
the length, since there is a 0th element;

$count++;  # number of elements in array @array;

you could also do:

$count = scalar(@array);

[]s,
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IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails"
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Diskless and Stare Office??

1999-10-25 Thread Benak Istvan
Hi!

Someone please tell me, if I want to use a Diskless clients (p200 with
64 MB ram) and a strong server and 10 Mb ethernet cards, how will run
the StarOffice 5.1 on the clients?? 
Have anyone any experience with this??


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make to dep package?

1999-10-25 Thread Benak Istvan
Hi again!

I've a short question:
If I download a tar.gz file and if I want to compile it, can I make from
the source a deb package? Because If I install it from the source I
can't purge it, not? But If I can make a deb from the source i can
remove it with the dpkg. Have any solution?

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Re: Something wrong with potato modutils

1999-10-25 Thread Jerry Lundström
On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 01:36:18 -0700 (PDT), George Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

>
>Well, I THINK it is modutils that is causing the problem. Two machines,
>both upgraded yesterday. Now neither one can properly depmod. All modules
>report unresolved symbols and refuse to load. 
>
>NOTE this only affects kernel compiled after the upgrade so it could be a
>libc or ldso issue, not sure what changed in the past few days.
>
>Old kernels that were working before the upgrade still work. Kernels built
>after the upgrade are broken. 
>

Compiled 2.2.13 with upgraded Slink -> Potato last week and it works like a
charm.




Re: Installing nedit and xmbase-grok

1999-10-25 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
Unfortunately, there was an incompatible API change in the new version of
lesstif so all the packages that were compiled with lesstifg will have to
be recompiled with the new lesstif1 package.  Some maintainers have
updated their packages faster than others.  If there isn't one already,
you should file a bug report against nedit about this.

In the mean time, you can download the source of nedit, make the change
yourself, and rebuild it.

-- 
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On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, Andreas Kurth wrote:

> Running potato, I wonder how to install both xmbase-grok and nedit
> (or plan).
> 
> Xmbase-grok depends on lesstif1, which replaces lesstifg, while nedit
> and plan depend on lesstifg.
> 
> Is there a way to have both lesstif1 and lesstifg dependend packages
> installed?
> 
> 
> Thanks, Andreas.
> 
> -- 
> Andreas KurthMannheim, Germany
> 
> --
> 


C programing

1999-10-25 Thread Benak Istvan
Hi!

Someone tell me how can I find a doc about C programing (I downloaded
the Programmer's Guide, but I can't programming under C, so I want to
learn it!)
So I need a doc for lammers!

Thx the help!


Sorry about offtopic!
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getting sysclock to match hwclock

1999-10-25 Thread Patrik Magnusson
My system clock has been keeping time rather poorly. The
hardware-clock on the other hand hasn't lost a second in
over two months. 

I tried to use adjtimex to get the system clock to match the 
hardware clock, unsuccessfully. First i tried adjtimex --adjust
resulting in the system clock losing more than five minutes in 
a day. Then I tried adjtimex -u --adjust, resulting in the
system clock losing 20 minutes a day.

I just want the system clock to match the hardware clock.
Please help.

/Patrik.


Re: Something wrong with potato modutils

1999-10-25 Thread Vaidhyanathan G Mayilrangam
I have the same problem. I upgraded my potato machine yesterday. I had a bunch 
of unresolved symbols. I did a update-modules. Now my machine is complaining 
about /etc/modules.conf being older than /lib/modules/2.2.5/modules.dep. 
Somehow, the depmod -a from init.d script seems to be not writing the 
modules.dep. When I run depmod -a manually, the modules.dep gets created. Next 
time, I boot, there is a old modules.dep in my /lib/modules.

Any clues.

Regards,
Vaidhy

On Mon, Oct 25, 1999 at 01:36:18AM -0700, George Bonser wrote:
> 
> Well, I THINK it is modutils that is causing the problem. Two machines,
> both upgraded yesterday. Now neither one can properly depmod. All modules
> report unresolved symbols and refuse to load. 
> 
> NOTE this only affects kernel compiled after the upgrade so it could be a
> libc or ldso issue, not sure what changed in the past few days.
> 
> Old kernels that were working before the upgrade still work. Kernels built
> after the upgrade are broken. 
> 
> 
> George Bonser
> 
> "When someone annoys you, it takes 32 muscles to frown, but it only
> takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and smack them in the head."
> 
> 
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Re: Something wrong with potato modutils

1999-10-25 Thread Patrick Kirk
Hi Jerry,

I used moved from slink to potato as well.  Is there a howto on how to get
and compile a 2.2 kernel?

Thanks in advance,

Patrick


Re: C programing

1999-10-25 Thread Stephan Engelke
Hi,

On Mon, Oct 25, 1999 at 01:30:34PM +0200, Benak Istvan wrote:
> Someone tell me how can I find a doc about C programing (I downloaded
> the Programmer's Guide, but I can't programming under C, so I want to
> learn it!)
> So I need a doc for lammers!

How 'bout "Kerninghan, Ritchie:  The C Programming Language". Sorry,
forgot the publisher.
There's a score of other good, allright, and bad books around.  Check
your local bookstore.

Cheers, Stephan
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Re: Something wrong with potato modutils

1999-10-25 Thread Jerry Lundström
On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:43:22 +0100, "Patrick Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hi Jerry,
>
>I used moved from slink to potato as well.  Is there a howto on how to get
>and compile a 2.2 kernel?
>

Not realy, there is HOWTO's on the basic things about compileing the kernel.
Check you /usr/doc/HOWTO and it should be a Kernel file there. There is also
info on where to get the lastest source in the HOWTO file.



Re: Something wrong with potato modutils

1999-10-25 Thread Patrick Kirk
Many thanks!


apache authentication

1999-10-25 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes

Hi,

Suddenly my apache server (Slink) stopped asking for
authentication with .htaccess files.
Any hint what could be going wrong here? I have no idea since this
was working ok.
Thanks,

[]s,
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IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails"
http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21
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Re: make to dep package?

1999-10-25 Thread Jean-Yves BARBIER
On Mon, Oct 25, 1999 at 12:18:34PM +0200, Benak Istvan wrote:
> Hi again!
> 
> I've a short question:
> If I download a tar.gz file and if I want to compile it, can I make from
> the source a deb package? Because If I install it from the source I
> can't purge it, not? But If I can make a deb from the source i can
> remove it with the dpkg. Have any solution?

Yep: use 'alien -d '

BUT it makes a .deb who install on / :(
So, you better first untar it (usually in /usr/src), 
then re-tar it *with* path, then alienize it; so, this
way its gonna be installed in the right directory ;)

JY
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Software (was Re: trashing Netscape)

1999-10-25 Thread David Teague
On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, John wrote:

 
> Fortunately my car runs without software, i wouldnt go near it otherwise :)
 
Hi John

However, unless your car is very old (before early 1970s) your car
has a computer, and software, in it that does ignition timing at the
very least. 

On my car, the computer controls the ignition, locks the doors at 15
mph. After I've stopped, it will turn the lights off after an
interval,and if I leave the interior lights on, it will turn them
off ... all under software control.

What is REALLY SCARY is that MS wants Windows be the OS that does
all this.  No thanks! 

--David
David Teague, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian GNU/Linux Because software support is free, timely,
 useful, technically accurate, and friendly.
 (I'm hoping this is all of the above!)


Re: trashing Netscape (was Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!)

1999-10-25 Thread jack
> > > Please check this one for me (I don't see how this can be anything other
> > > than a Netscape bug, but if it is something else, I'd like to know):
> > >
> > > On any Unix (X11) version of Communicator:
> > Alas, I use only Navigator, not the whole Communicator package.
> > > - - open the bookmarks window
> > > - - click on a bookmark to select it
> > > - - open the bookmark properties window (via the right-click menu)
> > > - - leaving the bookmark properties window open,
> > > - - click on a separator in the bookmarks window
> > > - - click on some other bookmark window entry
> > >
> > > Does Communicator crash with a bus error??
> > Nope, works just fine -- I can click until I'm blue in the face and
> > Netscape (Navigator) just keeps on truckin'.
It crashes Netscape (Navigator) on my machine.  There's nothing to
protect.  Everybody knows netscape sucks for now.

> > I'm not suggesting that Netscape is bug free, but it sounds to me like
> > you're on a mission to stress test it to failure. Why 2000 bookmarks for
> > heaven's sake? How many Netscape windows is it useful to have open at
> > once?
However, fact is fact.




How to force reconfiguring of a package?

1999-10-25 Thread Daniel Haude
Hi folks,

I have two questions related to Debian package management.

1) My apache server doesn't start up. When I manually try to start it, it
complains that it can't figure out the hostname of the local system.
Weird, because "hostname" returns the correct name. Anyway, I suspect that
something went wrong during the post-installation configuration, so I'd
like to re-run that script. dpkg --configure , however,
doesn't want to do anything on the grounds that the package is already
properly set up. Un-installing and re-installing seems a bit like
overkill, and dselect of course bitches a lot about the stuff that
depends on a web server and wants to uninstall it, too (I know I can force
dselect to keep those things, but it's easy to fuck up anyway). So my
question actually comes down to a special and a general one:

1a) Why dosn't apache know the name of its host, and where does it try to
get it from?

1b) How to re-configure an already installed and configured package?



2) Since I also have plenty of non-debian related trouble with this
computer, I have installed Debian for the third time now. Is it possible
to save the entire setup of the system in such a way (preferably on a
floppy disk) that for a re-installation all I would have to do is pop in
the distribution disk and the saved installation, go and drink coffee, and
come back to the ready-installed system an hour later? This would also be
interesting if one wanted to set up a lot of computers in a row. BTW, on
my first two installation the apache server started up without trouble. I
don't know what I did differently.

**Daniel


Re: getting sysclock to match hwclock

1999-10-25 Thread Daniel Haude
On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Patrik Magnusson wrote:

> My system clock has been keeping time rather poorly. The
> hardware-clock on the other hand hasn't lost a second in
> over two months. 
> 
> I tried to use adjtimex to get the system clock to match the 
> hardware clock, unsuccessfully. First i tried adjtimex --adjust
> resulting in the system clock losing more than five minutes in 
> a day. Then I tried adjtimex -u --adjust, resulting in the
> system clock losing 20 minutes a day.
> 
> I just want the system clock to match the hardware clock.
> Please help.

All I can offer in this matter is that, despite of many hours of trying
and reading manuals, I have never ever managed to figure out the system /
hardware clock interrelationships with Linux. I have an old computer whose
hw clock loses several minutes a day, and with hwclock and friends this
should be fixable (since the deviation is known, the real time can be
computed from the faulty BIOS clock on power up). I never got it to work
and I now live with the fact that I'm days behind.

My new computer's hw clock is set to GMT and runs fine. My timezone is set
one hour off GMT (Central European), but "date" shows a time that's five
hours late. I just stopped caring.

--Daniel


Re: trashing Netscape (was Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!)

1999-10-25 Thread Daniel Haude
On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, jack wrote:

> It crashes Netscape (Navigator) on my machine.  There's nothing to
> protect.  Everybody knows netscape sucks for now.

> However, fact is fact.

Haven't had netscape trouble under Linux yet (I don't use it much), but on
an IRIX 6.4 system it dumps core the instant I click on a mailto: link. Of
course it started this habit only half a year ago without appearent
reason. If I open the "Mail server" configuration window and close it
again without changing anything, everything works afterwards.

--Daniel


Re: Something wrong with potato modutils

1999-10-25 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Vaidhyanathan G Mayilrangam wrote:
> I have the same problem. I upgraded my potato machine yesterday. I had
> a bunch of unresolved symbols. I did a update-modules. Now my machine
> is complaining about /etc/modules.conf being older than
> /lib/modules/2.2.5/modules.dep.

It's a warning which can be safely ignored. modules.dep is remade on
boot, while modules.conf is only generated when needed. As a result it
tends to be older, which triggers this warning.

> Somehow, the depmod -a from init.d script seems to be not writing the
> modules.dep. When I run depmod -a manually, the modules.dep gets
> created. Next time, I boot, there is a old modules.dep in my
> /lib/modules.

How you have me confused.. how can the script not write modules.dep
while you still get the error that modules.conf is older then that
file? Something doesn't add up here..

Wichert.

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Re: Something wrong with potato modutils

1999-10-25 Thread Pollywog
I have had this problem on Potato for at least a week.  I was able to
eliminate it by recompiling my kernel, but that did not work after my most
recent upgrade about three days ago.

--
Andrew

On 25-Oct-99 Vaidhyanathan G Mayilrangam wrote:
> I have the same problem. I upgraded my potato machine yesterday. I had a
> bunch of unresolved symbols. I did a update-modules. Now my machine is
> complaining about /etc/modules.conf being older than
> /lib/modules/2.2.5/modules.dep. Somehow, the depmod -a from init.d script
> seems to be not writing the modules.dep. When I run depmod -a manually, the
> modules.dep gets created. Next time, I boot, there is a old modules.dep in
> my /lib/modules.


Mutt and /var/spool/mail

1999-10-25 Thread Paul
Third time lucky with this one.
After uninstalling a perfectly serviceable version of Mutt in order to
install Mutt-ja I now find that my mailbox is read only. I`ve RTFM and
think that this may have something to do with the -homespool option and
setgid but to be honest I`m still a bit of a newbie and can`t work out
the solution at all. Both times I installed from .debs using dpkg.
mutt -v is as follows:

System: Linux 2.0.36 [using slang 10202]
Compile options:
-DOMAIN
-HOMESPOOL  -USE_SETGID  +USE_DOTLOCK  -USE_FCNTL  -USE_FLOCK
+USE_IMAP  +USE_POP  +HAVE_REGCOMP  -USE_GNU_REGEX  +HAVE_COLOR 
+HAVE_PGP2  -BUFFY_SIZE 
-EXACT_ADDRESS  +ENABLE_NLS
SENDMAIL="/usr/sbin/sendmail"
MAILPATH="/var/spool/mail"
SHAREDIR="/usr/share/mutt"
SYSCONFDIR="/etc"
ISPELL="/usr/bin/ispell"
_PGPPATH="/usr/bin/pgp"
_PGPV2PATH="/usr/bin/pgp"

I hope someone can help as I`m sick of using Netscape.
Got to try and get the Japanese Language support figured out next!
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Re: Something wrong with potato modutils

1999-10-25 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Wichert Akkerman wrote:

> Previously Vaidhyanathan G Mayilrangam wrote:
> > I have the same problem. I upgraded my potato machine yesterday. I had
> > a bunch of unresolved symbols. I did a update-modules. Now my machine
> > is complaining about /etc/modules.conf being older than
> > /lib/modules/2.2.5/modules.dep.
> 
> It's a warning which can be safely ignored. modules.dep is remade on
> boot, while modules.conf is only generated when needed. As a result it
> tends to be older, which triggers this warning.
> 
> > Somehow, the depmod -a from init.d script seems to be not writing the
> > modules.dep. When I run depmod -a manually, the modules.dep gets
> > created. Next time, I boot, there is a old modules.dep in my
> > /lib/modules.
> 
> How you have me confused.. how can the script not write modules.dep
> while you still get the error that modules.conf is older then that
> file? Something doesn't add up here..

This is a known problem.  See:

http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/47/47830.html

-- 
Jean Pierre



xemacs20 and default font

1999-10-25 Thread Pere Camps
Hi!

I'm trying to set up a default font under xemacs20. I've changed
the default font to my tastes with the Options menu, but even after using
the same menu's "Save Options" option, my font doesn't come back after
relaunching xemacs.

I'm very new to xemacs (and emacs too) and I'd like to know what's
the name of the function that implements this so I can put it in my .emacs
file.

TIA!

ps: I've played with the .Xdefaults file/options to no avail.

-- p.


Re: Stateful Packet - Firewall

1999-10-25 Thread Harald Weidner
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Miquel van Smoorenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Well there is Sinus - http://www.sinusfirewall.org/

The official homepage of the SINUS firewall is
http://www.ifi.unizh.ch/ikm/SINUS/firewall/

Note that the developers work with Debian themselves, so the
firewall runs quite fine under Debian Linux. However, there are
no .deb packages yet. (Any volunteers?  ;-) )

Harald


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Re: Something wrong with potato modutils

1999-10-25 Thread Art Lemasters
 On a most recent upgrade, I noticed that there was a question posed
by the system on modutils, along with a prompt to say no or hit "enter."
...sorry, but although I remember there was a notice about involved
config files being replaced, I did not jot it down.  I chose "enter,"
to make the changes (to delete the obsolete config file(s)).

Art

On Mon, Oct 25, 1999 at 01:36:18AM -0700, George Bonser wrote:
> 
> Well, I THINK it is modutils that is causing the problem. Two machines,
> both upgraded yesterday. Now neither one can properly depmod. All modules
> report unresolved symbols and refuse to load. 
> 
> NOTE this only affects kernel compiled after the upgrade so it could be a
> libc or ldso issue, not sure what changed in the past few days.
> 
> Old kernels that were working before the upgrade still work. Kernels built
> after the upgrade are broken. 
> 
> 
> George Bonser
> 
> "When someone annoys you, it takes 32 muscles to frown, but it only
> takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and smack them in the head."
> 
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Re: getting sysclock to match hwclock

1999-10-25 Thread Patrik Magnusson
>> On 25 Oct 1999, Patrik Magnusson wrote:
>> > My system clock has been keeping time rather poorly. The
>> > hardware-clock on the other hand hasn't lost a second in
>> > over two months. 
>> > 
>> > I tried to use adjtimex to get the system clock to match the 
>> > hardware clock, unsuccessfully. First i tried adjtimex --adjust
>> > resulting in the system clock losing more than five minutes in 
>> > a day. Then I tried adjtimex -u --adjust, resulting in the
>> > system clock losing 20 minutes a day.
>> > 
>> > I just want the system clock to match the hardware clock.
>> > Please help.

>> hwclock --hctosys
>>  or, if you're on UTC:
>> 
>> hwclock --utc --hctosys.
>> 
>> However, the error will come back unless you use adjtimex to correct it.
>> You can do this in /etc/rc.boot/adjtimex.
>> 
>> See the man pages for hwclock and adjtimex for details of all this.

(Thank you A. Campbell)

I see now that I was unclear in my original message. I do know about
hwclock --hctosys. 
I was under the impression (I still am) that it's a bad thing to just set the 
system 
clock back. Instead you should get it to run slower (or faster - I don't see
how it could be harmful to set the system clock ahead though -) until it matches
the hardware clock, and then get it to run at 'normal' speed again.
Is this correct?
If it is, is there some switch that makes adjtimex do this, or some other tool?
And yes, I have read the man page for adjtimex, it's just that most of it is 
undecipherable to me.

/Patrik.



Re: Something wrong with potato modutils

1999-10-25 Thread Art Lemasters
 /etc/modules.conf and /etc/modutils were replaced on this machine
(potato) two days ago.  /etc/modules.conf.old was made on the 19th
(six days ago).

Art



Re: How to copy the Debian-CD (with short 8.3 FN's) to my Harddiskwith LFN

1999-10-25 Thread Joe Block
Michelle Konzack wrote:
> 
> MK>> The other Thing is, how can I get a full FTP-Mirror (SLINK stable +
> src) ???
> MK>
> MK>Use wget, it had be designed for that.
> 
> Hello,
> 
> wget does download ALL !!!
> It is too much !!!
> 
> I like to get only the stable bin+src SLINK for i386 and not more.
> I have only 2,8 GByte and the last Download had crashed my system.
> They had triet to download around 4,x GByte

Here is what I use.

-- cut here --
#!/bin/sh
 
cd /home/debian/public_html
 
echo > debian.log

# this is should all be one line
/usr/bin/wget --proxy=off --mirror -nH -c --cut-dirs=1 -b -o debian.log
--dot-style=binary --tries=30
ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-i386
ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/
ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/binary-all/
ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/contrib/binary-i386/
ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/contrib/binary-all/
ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/non-free/binary-i386/
ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/non-free/binary-all/

-- cut here --
remove the urls of the directories you don't want to mirror, this setup
ends up being about 1.2 gigs.

This way I can minimize the hits on the main site, I have about a dozen
boxes using my mirror.

jpb
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Menu gone after blackbox update

1999-10-25 Thread Bob Nielsen
After updating blackbox to 0.51.3-2, the Debian menu system is no
longer accessible.  A right-click brings up a menu with only xterm,
Restart and Exit as options.

The changelog refers to looking for the menu in /etc/X11 and the
desired menu exists in /etc/X11/blackbox.

Bob

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Re: [TEST] Ignore

1999-10-25 Thread Joe Block
Wim Kerkhoff wrote:
> 
> You shouldn't be reading this!

You shouldn't be sending this.

When did it become acceptable behavior to use mailing lists that go to
hundreds of users as test mail recipients?

jpb
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ATI Mach64 mouse woes!

1999-10-25 Thread Jose L Gomez Dans
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Problems with ATI Mach64 card
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.x
Organization: 
Summary: 
Keywords: 

Hi!
This is the second SVGA/PCI card i try on my computer, and the
second time I encounter this problem. First of all, gpm stops working. The
mouse is on ttyS0, which according to setserial is at 0x03f8 and IRQ4. As
for the graphics card, there seems to be a /proc/ioports entry for it at
0x3c0-0x3df (signalled as vga+). There's no trace of the card in
/proc/interrupts, though.

zgv and other console graphic tools that make use of libsvga work
with an VGA display. It seems that the Mach64 driver is not built into the
debian package (I read that it's very unstable, at least that's what the
README file says, but that file is more than a year old :-?). So, in the
console, the mouse is *dead*.

Trying to start XF86Setup starts the X server and launches the Setup
program. However, the mouse here is dead. It moves when I touch and then
disappears without a trace. This renders the X server useless. I have killed
gpm before starting the X server (which, incidentally looks fine, hi
resolution and all those things, only no mouse :-/). I can provide an X
-probeonly output, but I won't spam you with that :)

Since I had the same problem in the past (solved by using an ageing
VGA card==not optimal solution :D) with an S3 card, I have downloaded a
newer BIOS for my MB, and installed it succesfully. Once the update has been
done, the computer boots up with the new bios, but the problem with the
mouse stays.

Does any one know what might be happening? I'd be more than happy to
provide you with further information (file listings and stuff like that).
The motherboard is a Pentium MMX compatible with PCI and ISA bus and with an
VXPro+ chipset. I'm using debian slink with XFree 3.5.


Tia,
Jose

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Re: Intention to NMU MRTG

1999-10-25 Thread Joey Hess
Michael-John Turner wrote:
> The primary reason is that the default SNMP configuration for ucd-snmp
> 4.0 doesn't supply the network stats MRTG monitors - do an snmpwalk and
> you'll see what I mean.

I ran into this too. Is there a way to add those stats back in?

-- 
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Re: Diskless and Stare Office??

1999-10-25 Thread Philip Lehman
On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Benak Istvan wrote:

>Someone please tell me, if I want to use a Diskless clients (p200 with
>64 MB ram) and a strong server and 10 Mb ethernet cards, how will run
>the StarOffice 5.1 on the clients?? 
>Have anyone any experience with this??

Not with loading off the network in particular, but I tried it out on
my Notebook, a P233 with 64 MB. SO is useable, but working is painful.
This is mostly a RAM issue, I think. It's bearable with 128 MB, but
still feels somewhat sluggish.

If you ever thought Netscape was a pig... ;)

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Re: Mutt and /var/spool/mail

1999-10-25 Thread Paul
> What are the permissions and group/ownership of /var/spool/mail?
> 
> I have  drwxrwsr -x  root  mail
> 
> Anthony
> 
> --

Thanks for your help. These are the permissions, they don`t look that
similar, has the install of mutt changed something it shouldn`t have
done?

$ ls -l /var/spool/mail
total 416
-rw-rw   1 paul mail   422603 Oct 23 12:16 paul

$ ls -l  /var/spool/mail/paul
-rw-rw   1 paul mail   422603 Oct 23 12:16
/var/spool/mail/paul

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Re: apache authentication

1999-10-25 Thread aphro
what does your access.conf show ?  depending on your config will depend
wether or not htaccess files are read.

nate

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On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
>   Suddenly my apache server (Slink) stopped asking for
> authentication with .htaccess files.
>   Any hint what could be going wrong here? I have no idea since this
> was working ok.
>   Thanks,
> 
> []s,
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> IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails"
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Re: Diskless and Stare Office??

1999-10-25 Thread aphro
diskless..i assume everything is mounted over nfs ..so what stops you from
loadin staroffice over nfs like any other app. (make sure to do a
multiuser install with the /net option, then run a workstation install for
each user)

nate

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On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Benak Istvan wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> Someone please tell me, if I want to use a Diskless clients (p200 with
> 64 MB ram) and a strong server and 10 Mb ethernet cards, how will run
> the StarOffice 5.1 on the clients?? 
> Have anyone any experience with this??
> 
> 
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Re: Mutt and /var/spool/mail

1999-10-25 Thread Paul
Paul wrote:
> 
> > What are the permissions and group/ownership of /var/spool/mail?
> >
> > I have  drwxrwsr -x  root  mail
> >
> > Anthony
> >
> > --
> 
> Thanks for your help. These are the permissions, they don`t look that
> similar, has the install of mutt changed something it shouldn`t have
> done?
> 
> $ ls -l /var/spool/mail
> total 416
> -rw-rw   1 paul mail   422603 Oct 23 12:16 paul
> 
> $ ls -l  /var/spool/mail/paul
> -rw-rw   1 paul mail   422603 Oct 23 12:16
> /var/spool/mail/paul
> 
> Paul


I think I might have cocked up that last message,try this:

$ ls -l /var/spool/
total 6
drwxr-xr-x   5 root root 1024 Jul 25 21:21 cron
drwxr-x---   5 mail mail 1024 Sep 19 19:41 exim
drwxrwx---   2 root dialout  1024 May  2  1998 fax
drwxrwsr-x   3 lp   lp   1024 Jul 25 21:22 lpd
drwxrwsr-x   2 root mail 1024 Oct 23 12:16 mail
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 1024 Feb 13  1999 rwho

Like I said, a bit of a newbie!
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proxyarp

1999-10-25 Thread esl
Help, please. How do I enable proxyarp on my ethernet interface? I know
how to do this in PPP.

Thanks.

E.LL


Two problems after reinstalling.

1999-10-25 Thread jus10
Hello,
I had potato up and running fine but I needed to repartition this drive
so I reinstalled.  Everything is working well with two small problems
that didn't come up the first time.  
One of them is that gpm and X won't work at the same time.  To move the
mouse in X I need to gpm -k.  This I didn't need to do before.  Another
problem is that my time is now set to GMT.  This is due to my pulling
time zones from the installed files.  I fixed this problem before but
now I can't remember how.  

Any help would be appreciated,
Justin Settle


cron and timezones

1999-10-25 Thread Alisdair McDiarmid
I've just noticed that cron takes no notice of the current
timezone: all my cron jobs were running an hour late and I didn't
know why until recently.

My timezone is set correctly, using tzconfig, so date gives:

Mon Oct 25 20:35:42 BST 1999

Unfortunately, cron thinks this means 19:35:42 GMT, and so doesn't
work how I'd expect.

I'd rather not have to change my crontab when we swap between BST
and GMT here: is there a way of making cron take notice of the
timezone?

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Re: getting sysclock to match hwclock

1999-10-25 Thread Laurent PICOULEAU
On Mon, 25 Oct, 1999 à 03:37:28PM +0200, Patrik Magnusson wrote:
> My system clock has been keeping time rather poorly. The
> hardware-clock on the other hand hasn't lost a second in
> over two months. 
> 
> I tried to use adjtimex to get the system clock to match the 
> hardware clock, unsuccessfully. First i tried adjtimex --adjust
> resulting in the system clock losing more than five minutes in 
> a day. Then I tried adjtimex -u --adjust, resulting in the
> system clock losing 20 minutes a day.
>
What does /etc/adjtime contain ? You can copy hardware clock to system
with hwclock --hctosys but you should have a coherent /etc/adjtime if
you want that the two clock stay on sync. 

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X-WINDOW FREEZE

1999-10-25 Thread Camiel Coenen

I sometimes run into the problem of an X-Window freeze (keyboard stops
working as does the touchpad on my laptop). This is very annoying because I
have to reboot my system by using the reset button, which in turn is a
dangerous way of restarting linux.
Is there a solution to prevent or avoid such a freeze ?

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passwd

1999-10-25 Thread Vincent Deffontaines
I just found out something I find freak on my debian 2.1 system

My root password   used to be "panoramix2021"...
Today by mistake I typed "panoramix", and got in!!!

how comes? is that normal? I dont find it normal actually
is that a bug? is that supposed to be working that way?
how many characteers are passwords supposed to be limited by??? 9???


now I tried something else
I set my password to a 9 characters one
lets say "poipoipoi" which is 9 charaters
you can type "poipoipoi" followed by anything... you just get in as
well...
I think there's a problem about that too (I guess its the same...)


so please tell me

Hope that can help...

Vincent Deffontaines
France


Re: Menu gone after blackbox update

1999-10-25 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On Mon, Oct 25, 1999 at 09:35:19AM -0700, Bob Nielsen wrote:
> After updating blackbox to 0.51.3-2, the Debian menu system is no
> longer accessible.  A right-click brings up a menu with only xterm,
> Restart and Exit as options.
> 
> The changelog refers to looking for the menu in /etc/X11 and the
> desired menu exists in /etc/X11/blackbox.
> 

The menu changed names, it is blackbox-menu, not Blackbox-menu.  Exit blackbox, 
editi
your .blackboxrc to reflect this and all is well.

There is no way for the maintainer to automate this via blackbox, sorry.


Getting Netscape to work on potato

1999-10-25 Thread Mark M
Hi,

Despite Potato being based on a 2.2 kernel, downloading the 
unsupported/linux22netscape doesn't work to well.

However, the supported/linux20libc5 version seems to be very stable
even on my 2.2 kernel Potato system.

Perhaps this is the reason for the conflicting reports??

YMMV

Mark.


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