Re: I really need help!

1999-04-03 Thread Christian Dysthe
Hi,

I had the same problem. See the thread "Where is /etc/rc.d/rc.local on Debian"
in this mailing list a couple of days ago.

No, there isn't any "autoexec.bat" in Linux. You will have to put stuff you
want to start in etc/init.d and then update the boot scripts so that your
additions also get included for the different runlevels. Again, there is a lot
of information in that thread I mentioned regarding this. It was no
is no simple task for a Linux newbie like me to grasp the boot system of Linux,
but I did get what I needed to run running.

On 02-Apr-99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Nuno Donato dixit:
>> I really need sme help here. If you can, please help me.
>> I want to know if there is a kind of autoexec.bat file in 
>> Linux, so that each times it boots, it automatically 
>> executes some commands.
>> I need this because I have downloaded Blender(3d Software), 
>> and i must install symbolic links. But because I don't know 
>> how to do this before running Blender I need to execute a 
>> LARGE command.
>> Do you know how ot install symbolic links?
> 
> You don't install symbolic links, you create them ... do `man ln' for more
> information (`ln -s' will create a symlink).
> 
> As for an autoexec.bat, not sure, I guess it depends on what you want to do,
> but mostly /etc/profile, or ~/.bash_profile, ...
> 
> Regards
> 
> Horacio
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Re: mail oddity

1999-04-03 Thread Mark Phillips
> Hi all,
> 
>   I'm having a strange problem with my mail from debian-user.  I
> received 400+ mails this morning
> of which approx. 30% were duplicates.  I also received  57  repeats,
> which were from Monday.
> Has  anyone else seen this?

Are you using nmh (perhaps via exmh)?  Then install the latest version of
nmh from potato.

Cheers,

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Re: I really need help!

1999-04-03 Thread James Mastros
On Fri, Apr 02, 1999 at 02:42:50PM -0800, Nuno Donato wrote:
> I really need sme help here. If you can, please help me.
> I want to know if there is a kind of autoexec.bat file in 
> Linux, so that each times it boots, it automatically 
> executes some commands.
There are several different things that you could call analogous to
autoexec.bat.  The one you probably want to modify is called .profile.  Just
say "editor .profile".  If you end up in somthing that you can't understand,
it's probably vi.  To get out of it, hit ^C, then :q!.  Then say "apt-get
install ee" at a prompt to install a more user-friendly editor.

> I need this because I have downloaded Blender(3d Software), 
> and i must install symbolic links. But because I don't know 
> how to do this before running Blender I need to execute a 
> LARGE command.
> Do you know how ot install symbolic links?
ln -s  
Note that the source file is the one that gets created, and becomes
(effectively) another name for the desrination file.  If you should happen
to get them reversed (which I do all the time), then you'll get an error
message; just reverse the two again.

-=- James Mastros


Re: GNOME 1.0 .deb package?

1999-04-03 Thread Rick Macdonald
On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Syrus Nemat-Nasser wrote:

> > Ah. Now that I have that fixed, what's the proper place for enlightenment
> > 0.15 debs for slink? The following contains dependencies on glibg6 >=2.1
> > so I think it must be for potato:
> > 
> > deb http://www.debian.org/~bma enlightenment/
> 
> The enlightenment debs are in the slink GNOME staging area as well.
> Everything should be fine. It's working for me as my default desktop
> environment for work.

OK, got it all now. The "bma" source was overiding the files in the gnome
staging area. Thanks.

...RickM...


Re: Microsoft Announces MS-Linux

1999-04-03 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, frankie wrote:

> It's April 2nd mate.

It's gone now, but there was a nice product description page complete with
a picture of the Linux 98 box (with a penguin of course) yesterday on
www.microsoff.com

Bob



Re: enlightenment/slink .xinitrc

1999-04-03 Thread MallarJ
I had my /etc/X11/window-managers start up enlightenment, then put the  exec 
gnome-session into the .xsession in my home dir (I couldn't get X to read 
.xinitrc).

-Jay


Re: GNOME 1.0 .deb package?

1999-04-03 Thread MallarJ
In a message dated 4/2/99 1:31:26 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

> > deb http://www.debian.org/~jim/debian-gtk-gnome/gnome-stage-slink \
>  > unstable main
>  
>  What's the difference between the above and:
>  
>  deb http://www.debian.org/~jules/gnome-stage-2 unstable main
>  
>  What should one use for a slink system?
>  

I believe stage 2 is for potato systems.

-Jay


Re: RedHat = MS-Linux

1999-04-03 Thread Ed Cogburn
Bruce Sass wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Ed Cogburn wrote:
> 
>
> [snip]
>
> > I don't want
> > to see RH disappear any more than I want to see Debian disappear.
> > I want to see enough cooperation between distros that allows app
> > makers to write software that will work on most distros without
> > major effort on the app maker's part.  I'd like to see healthy
> > competition between the distros, but not at the expense of
> > application compatibility.
> 
> I suspect that we have a difference of opinion about what a "major
> effort" is and when compatibility is broken.  In my mind a computer is a
> tool, not an appliance. Either you learn how to use the tool and make it
> do what you want, or you complain to the developers until they do it for
> you.


On compatibility, you're right.  My major problem is a general
lack of knowledge about other distro types.  I used RH for a very
little while a *long* time ago, and have used no other distro.  I
have to depend on what others have said.
The tool/appliance issue is much more difficult.  One the one
hand understand the need to learn about some thing before being
able to use that thing effectively, yet I know very smart people
who will not do something like learning Linux if it requires a
significant learning curve.  They just want to get something done,
and basically they are satisfied with the point-n-click interface
of Win and the apps that are important to them.  I guess I can
empathize with both sides.


> 
> <...>
> >   There are differences between RH and Deb, primarily in the
> > directory tree layout, and especially in places like /etc./ and
> > /var/ (I think).  Its not clear to me what the percentage of RH
> > packages that can't be easily converted would be.  Anybody with
> > better knowledge like to speak up here?
> 
> ditto that question.
> 
> Filesystem differences are trivial, that is what "ln" is for, right?


For the issue of a software package that needs to get a daemon 
running at bootup, I don't think the problem is trivial.  The
layout and use of the /etc/init.d and /etc/rc*.d dirs is (I've
read) far from compatible between RH and Deb.


> 
> >   I don't think we need to invent a 'patent' issue to effect that
> > kind of fragmentation.
> 
> I was just trying to rationalize how a piece of software could be
> unavailable and not reproducible by the OSS community.  I didn't invent
> a patent issue, it just seems to be the only thing to prevent the
> creation of an OSS version of any piece of software.


If the objective is an RH clone, and you can find a critical mass
of developers willing to hack away, then there wouldn't be too
much of a problem.  RH would have to go to extraordinary means to
keep the OSS people from duplicating anything that RH does.  The
objective of the LSB though is not to establish one Linux distro
with the same identical dir structure and system maintenance tools
and look-n-feel, the objective is to allow apps to be loadable on
otherwise different distros that adhere to an underlying common
base structure.


> 
> > As the 'Heinz ketchup' manifesto talked
> > about, its brand name recognition and user perception that matters
> > in a commercial market.  All it takes is a user perception that RH
> > is the only distro that matters, and we'll end up seeing companies
> > releasing software meant for RH, and not bothering to support any
> > distro that isn't RH compatible.
> 
> But what would make the software incompatible.
> Whose yardstick.
> i386 RH and i386 Debian are compatible.
> I installed a pine 4.04 .rpm, using _RPM_, on my Debian system.
> It worked just fine.  Once I told dpkg about it (by modifying the dpkg
> DB entry for the pine 3.96 .deb) you couldn't tell it was an alien
> unless you looked at the location of the config files.
   

Now imagine a situation where a lib or program is only available
as an RPM, which has other programs that depend on its config
files and/or their location.  Are there not several .debs that
have an install script that needs to look at or modify another
packages config stuff?  At the very least, .deb scripts would have
to know about the multiple locations of config files and possibly
even different syntax for config files.  Is this problem solvable?
Sure, with a quite of bit of hacking.  Can you always get enough
programmers/developers to work on this kind of problem every time
RH decides to change something to a non-standard method?  Even if
the answer here is yes also, Deb will always be a step behind,
which might be exactly where other distros (RH) would want us to
be.
Please keep in mind, though, that my main concern beyond
technical incompatibilities is a situation where RH is so
dominant, app makers simply decide not to even support other
distros.  I know most Deb users probably aren't concerned with
what happens on the commercial side of Linux market, but a few o

Re: No LILO Boot after Re-Install Windoze95

1999-04-03 Thread Paul Miller
Jeff Hill wrote:
> 
> Hmm, now that you say this, I looked back at the partition table (these are 
> the
> essential details I remember):
> 
> Partition   BootStartEnd  Type
> hda1Primary 1 19883   
>  Linux
> Native
> hda2Primary 414 791  5
> Extended
> hda3Primary 199 21582 
>Linux
> Swap
> hda4   *(something)
> DOS something
> hda5 Logical (etc.)
> DOS something
> hda6 Logical (etc.)
> DOS something
> 
> So, this isn't exactly what I thought I had originally written as the 
> partitions (no
> Linux native, only ext2). Now, what? I'm a bit lost. Switch hda1 to ext2 and 
> bootable?
> 
Both hda1 & hda4 need to be bootable. Linux Native is appropriate for
hda1. Then use this lilo.conf file

boot = /dev/hda
Image= /vmlinuz
  label  = linux
  Root   = /dev/hda1
Other = /dev/hda4
Label   = win

This is what I have on my system, and all works fine.

Hope this helps


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SB 128 PCI w/2.1 kernel

1999-04-03 Thread Randy Edwards
   I'm playing trying to get a SoundBlaster 128 PCI card working with the
2.2.1 kernel.  The card's id'ed as a 1275:5000 by lspci -n, so I've compiled
it with the Ensoniq ES1370 driver in the kernel's sound options.  However, I
can't get a squeak out of the card.  I'm pretty clueless when it comes to
sound, despite reading the howtos and such; can someone give me some hints
about what I'd need to do to configure this card?  TIA.

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where to find dbootstrap source??

1999-04-03 Thread Paul Dubbell
Ahhh... my first entrance into official debiandom.

Well, if this isn't annoying, does anyone know where to find the source
for dbootstrap(the debian installation program)? I know how to find the
program(easy) but the source isn't in any deb. Argg! Any pointers would
be appreciated.

Thanks,
-Paul


Re: mail oddity

1999-04-03 Thread Pedro Guerreiro
On Fri, Apr 02, 1999 at 12:25:05AM -0600, James Starr wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
>   I'm having a strange problem with my mail from debian-user.  I
> received 400+ mails this morning
> of which approx. 30% were duplicates.  I also received  57  repeats,
> which were from Monday.
> Has  anyone else seen this?

I sure did, and not only with -user, but with most of the lists from debian-*.
What's up guys?

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Hardware Upgrade: More RAM or SCSI?

1999-04-03 Thread Jeff Hill
Question for the gurus:

I've got a web server putting out just 10K pages and about 25MB a day.
Not much, but it's growing quickly and does get bogged down at certain
times during the day (seems about half is served between 2:30 and 4:00
PM).

Which is the better upgrade, more RAM or going to SCSI?

Currently, I'm running a P150 with 96MB RAM on a fast IDE drive (7200
RPM). I'm working on upgrading the server to slink with Apache-SSL.

We only have about 250MB of web pages, and I think I might be better off
bumping RAM to something like 512MB rather than moving to SCSI (which
would cost about the same).

While both would be nice, I'm on a limited budget. The additional RAM,
it would seem, would almost eliminate the need for heavy disk access
(even with the mysql and htdig databases I run on it). Additionally, if
I wait, I could move to SCSI with RAID rather than the basic ADAPTEC
2940UW that we are looking at.

Any suggestions appreciated.

Thanks,

Jeff Hill
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Re: RedHat = MS-Linux

1999-04-03 Thread John Hasler
Ed Cogburn writes:
> For the issue of a software package that needs to get a daemon running at
> bootup, I don't think the problem is trivial.  The layout and use of the
> /etc/init.d and /etc/rc*.d dirs is (I've read) far from compatible
> between RH and Deb.

How about an install-rc tool?  It would be essentially a generalization of
update-rc.d.  You would pass it a script and some parameters and it would
install the script appropriately for the distribution.
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Re: mail oddity

1999-04-03 Thread James Starr
Exactly!
 
I just finished reading -doc, -devel, and -qa. They're all 
doing it.  This is starting to get unwieldy.

Jstarr

p.s. I'm using plain nsmail.


Multiple sources for APT

1999-04-03 Thread Paul Miller
I have set up /etc/sources.list with multiple sites. Both sites offer
different versions of the same package, but only the older version gets
displayed. Of coarse I want the newer version. Here is my sources list
file:

deb http://www.debian.org/~jim/debian-gtk-gnome/gnome-stage-slink
unstable main
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free

I am wanting to install GNOME 1.0.

Thanx in advance

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access for non-us packages

1999-04-03 Thread Pat Greenwood
IIci 20/1G 68030 33.6 dial-up stand-alone w/ slink 2.1 installed 3/9/99.
I am a newbie. I apologize if the answer is already out there, but I
couldn't find it (about one week trying).
I have just the basics installed, no man pages yet.

Due to the amount of time it was taking to obtain selected packages in
dselect, I edited against the Access defaults to try specific mirror
sites. I'm back to what I think were the suggested paths. I've tried:
http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable non-US and
http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US non-US main contrib non-free
which I determined from reading the source for apt.

During Upgrade it seems like the http.us.debian.org...path is working,
but the non-us.debian.org... is not. It appears all efforts to access
non-us.debian.org... sites return a 404 Not Found. At the end of Upgrade
I get the error "E: Packages file
/var/state/apt/lists/non-us.debian.org_debian-non-US_dists_stable_non-US_binary-m68k_Packages
has changed" and the script tells me to correct this. How should the
Access paths be configured?

Is it unrealistic to expect success attempting to install from the net
or should I surrender to CD's?

Is there a faster way to obtain some bells and whistles via the net? My
current plan is to Install the minimum necessary to get X Window running
with wmaker and a couple of games, then add packages later.

Pat Greenwood
Omaha
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error running make

1999-04-03 Thread Shawn Nguyen
Hi,

I downloaded imwheel 0.9.5 and ran the make command and got an
error.  I was wondering if you knew what I am missing.  It looks like
when it's trying to look for some X library and other stuff.

jax.h:6: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory
jax.h:7: X11/Xutil.h: No such file or directory
jax.h:8: X11/Xresource.h: No such file or directory

So of course it doesn't let me install imwheel.  Am I missing something
that it needs?  Any help would be appreciated.

Shawn Nguyen


Re: access for non-us packages

1999-04-03 Thread James Mastros
On Fri, Apr 02, 1999 at 09:05:38PM -0600, Pat Greenwood wrote:
> Due to the amount of time it was taking to obtain selected packages in
> dselect, I edited against the Access defaults to try specific mirror
> sites. I'm back to what I think were the suggested paths. I've tried:
> http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
> http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable non-US and
> http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US non-US main contrib non-free
> which I determined from reading the source for apt.
I've attached my /etc/apt/sources.list file to this email; you should be
able to simply copy it if you want a fairly bleading-edge system (potato
distribution, with yet-to-land gnome and gnome-apt front-end.  Of cource,
you don't need to get gnome if you don't want it.)

> Is it unrealistic to expect success attempting to install from the net
> or should I surrender to CD's?
It is absolutly reasonable, and I think would be considered a bug if it
dosn't work.

> Is there a faster way to obtain some bells and whistles via the net? My
> current plan is to Install the minimum necessary to get X Window running
> with wmaker and a couple of games, then add packages later.
I'd suguest enlightenment over wmaker, btw, but that's largely a personal
choice.

-=- James Mastros
# Use for a local mirror - remove the ftp1 http lines for the bits
# your mirror contains.
# deb file:/your/mirror/here/debian stable main contrib non-free
# See sources.list(5) for more information, especial
# Remember that you can only use http, ftp or file URIs
#deb ftp://debian.midco.net/debian stable main contrib non-free non-US
#deb ftp://debian.midco.net/debian unstable main contrib non-free non-US
#deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
#deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable non-US
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable non-US
deb http://www.debian.org/~jules/gnome-stage-2 unstable main
deb http://www.debian.org/~mblevin/gnome-apt unstable main
deb http://pages.infinit.net/linux debian/


Re: X & locales problems.

1999-04-03 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Apr 02, 1999 at 05:25:04PM -0300, Paulo José da Silva e Silva wrote:
> I have a slink/hamm mixed system (my slink cd's are on their way). I am having
> some problems with locale and X. For example, when I run WPrefs I get
> the following error message:
> 
> WPrefs warning: X server does not support locale  
> 
> Them some complaining about fonts (and WPrefs refuses to run).
> 
> I have $LC_ALL=pt_BR.  If I set it to pt_PT or en_US WPrefs works OK. What is
> the problem? Why X doesn't support pt_BR? I am almost sure X supported that
> locale before I upgraded do slink xlib6g.

Make sure you're using the latest version of the slink xlib6g package.  The
version number is 3.3.2.3a-11.  For a while the locale and NLS data got
caught in limbo, but that problem was solved months ago.

My /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale.alias file has the following lines
(among many others):

pt  pt_PT.ISO8859-1
pt_BR   pt_BR.ISO8859-1
pt_PT   pt_PT.ISO8859-1
pt_PT.88591 pt_PT.ISO8859-1
pt_PT.88591.en  pt_PT.ISO8859-1
pt_PT.iso88591  pt_PT.ISO8859-1
pt_PT.ISO_8859-1pt_PT.ISO8859-1
portuguese_brazil.8859  pt_BR.ISO8859-1
portuguese.iso88591 pt_PT.ISO8859-1

locale.alias is not a conffile, so yours should have these exact same
lines.  If you don't, or if the file doesn't exist, that may explain the
problem.  Reinstall xlib6g.

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Re: where to find dbootstrap source??

1999-04-03 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Apr 03, 1999 at 12:59:15AM +, Paul Dubbell wrote:
> Well, if this isn't annoying, does anyone know where to find the source
> for dbootstrap(the debian installation program)? I know how to find the
> program(easy) but the source isn't in any deb. Argg! Any pointers would
> be appreciated.

I think you'll find it in the boot-floppies source package.

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Debian T-shirt

1999-04-03 Thread Paul Lowe
(also posted to debian-devel earlier)
Anyone know where I can find a Debian T-shirt?

HmmI've checked out lots of places that sell Linux clothing, and can
not find any Debian t-shirts. Does anyone  know where I can find a
Debian T-shirt / Hat? If not...maybe anyone interested in coordinating
the development of some Debian T-shirts / hats? I  might be interested
in doing a project like this

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compiling gvim(vim) + where are help files

1999-04-03 Thread Micha Feigin
I want to recompile gvim (an vim) in order to have hebrew suport
(+rightleft).
The problem is that I couldn't find how to make gvim (gui version) only
vim.
(I am using src ver. 5.3)
I managed to compile vim, only it was very large, and it would complete
comands using tab.
Another problem is that vim doesn't seem to find its help files.
If anyone can help me.
Thanx

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Newbie Questions

1999-04-03 Thread Chris Mayes
Hi, everyone!  I have used various versions of RedHat and SuSE for about
ten months and have decided to give Debian a try.  Unfortunately, the
coddling of the configuration tools in each distro has left me with only a
scant knowledge of where things are kept in the configuration file.
Here's my problem of the moment.  I copied over the .fetchmailrc file from
my current RH setup.  It connects splendidly, but returns this message
when it tries to transfer the messages:

45 messages for cmayes at my.isp.imap.server (202838 octets).
reading message 1 of 45 (1039 header octets) .fetchmail: SMTP listener
doesn't like recipient address [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
fetchmail: can't even send to cmayes!
fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from
my.isp.imap.server
fetchmail: Query status=10


Where would the SMTP listener get the [EMAIL PROTECTED] information?  I
have the "hostname" file set to "cmayes," which seems to have worked in
previos scenarios.  I'm trying to pull the maill off of the server using
IMAP.  If I need to supply any more info, plese let me know!

I have a great deal to learn about the manual configuration of the innards
of Linux (Specifically Debian, if all goes well), but I look forward to
the challenge.

One last thing:  I have decided to live dangerously and open up my apt-get
to the unstable tree.  The main reason was that I wanted to upgrade Window
Maker to the latest build.  However, when I apt-got the wmaker-gnome file,
it decidedthat it needed to pull down 250 (!!) other packages while it was
at it.  Since I've always been the adventurous type, I've decided to let
apt-get upgrade half of my system to the unstable packages.  Is this
unwise/stupid to do?  I still have more stable Linux installs (RH 5.2 and
SuSE 5.3) on other partitions in case of disaster.  Plus, this box is far
from mission-critical (aside from typing papers, coding, and checking
e-mail ;-)).

Oh, that reminds me: where do I set the default windowmanager?  Since I
wasn't given the option of making Window Maker the default during the
setup, it comes up on some version of fvwm, and I have to make a number of
mouse movements to get where I want to go (oh, the humanity!).  WEll,
that's all for now.  Thanks in advance!

-Chris

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Re: Screen resolution

1999-04-03 Thread Doug Dine
At 4/1/99 3:43:00 PM, you wrote:

>Chances are, it will say that no valid modes are found (at least there
>are ways that can work to go around that. I have a more/less readable
>file on my page, about how to setup video modes. Try that too), but just
>to be sure, post them here, and we'll see what we can do. 

I went to your web site and was able to figure it all out. Thanks. I removed the
640x480 from the modes list. All seems to be good now and I understand how
it works.


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Exim Mail filters for Macro and other VIRUS?

1999-04-03 Thread Kent Andersen
does anyone know or have an idea of what I need to put on EXIM to filter for
macro viruses and other pestelance like happy99? It would be really cool to
catch that at the transport agent and trash it then.
Thanks in advance!
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RE: SB 128 PCI w/2.1 kernel

1999-04-03 Thread Benoit Joly
hi

look for /dev/audio... if it's not there
run /dev/MAKEDEV audio

it should work

and yes, it's an ensoniq card, sb bought them some times ago.

Benoit Joly
On 03-Apr-99 Randy Edwards wrote:
>I'm playing trying to get a SoundBlaster 128 PCI card working with the
> 2.2.1 kernel.  The card's id'ed as a 1275:5000 by lspci -n, so I've compiled
> it with the Ensoniq ES1370 driver in the kernel's sound options.  However, I
> can't get a squeak out of the card.  I'm pretty clueless when it comes to
> sound, despite reading the howtos and such; can someone give me some hints
> about what I'd need to do to configure this card?  TIA.
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RE: ATI 3D Pro Turbo PC2TV graphic card + ATI-TV tuner card setu

1999-04-03 Thread Benoit Joly
hi, for your 2nd question, ATI dont release spec but a guilde of geek on the
net hacked the card and there is a little support for ati tv card. ati
all-in-wonder should work and some ati addon-card (not mine at this time :( ).

just look at http://ati.veiled.net/
go in the devel section and try gatos...

it's still a devel version so be carefull to not blow your card even if ati sux
:).

my advice for peoples who wants to buy an ati card: DONT BUY ATI STUFF!
they dont and will NOT SUPPORT linux!!!

it's the last time I have an ati card. not that the card is not good, but ati
dont give us a good support.

Benoit Joly

On 02-Apr-99 David Nelson wrote:
> Hullo there!
> I have an ATI 3D Pro Turbo PC2TV with 8 Mb RAM and an ATI-TV tuner card.
> I just installed slink and X with the ATI Mach64 server for the 3rd time
> (don't ask why 3 times). Second time around, X came up with a virtual desktop
> of 1600 x 1200 and a screen resolution of 800 by 600. Perfect!
> However, this time around it will only come up with an 800 by 600 desktop...
> no more virtual desktop.
> On exiting X I see the server started up with "Mode 800 by 600" and "Virtual
> Resolution 800 by 600". 
> 
> 1) Could somebody please advise me how to get the virtual desktop back?
> 
> 2) Does anybody know if I can use my ATI-TV tuner card under X (ATI itself
> does not directly support Linux)?
> 
> With hopeful thanks in advance,
> David Nelson
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dhcpcd problems

1999-04-03 Thread Mark Wagnon
Hi all:

I got my cable modem installed today, and now I'm trying to get it
running under Linux. The Cable-Modem Howto directed me to the DHCP
Howto, and it instructed me to install the dhcpcd client. I downloaded
dhcpcd_0.70-5.deb and when I installed it I got the followinf error
message from dpkg:

(Reading database ... 49927 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace dhcpcd 1:0.70-5 (using dhcpcd_0.70-5.deb) ...
Stopping DHCP client daemon: dhcpcd.
Unpacking replacement dhcpcd ...
Setting up dhcpcd (0.70-5) ...
dpkg: error processing dhcpcd (--install):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 dhcpcd

The line indicating that it is stopping the DHCP client suggests that I
already had it installed(?).

dpkg says that it's half-configured now. I tried getting it off a couple
of the alternate sites with the same results.

Anybody know what I need to do? Am I on the right track to begin with?

TIA
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Re: I really need help!

1999-04-03 Thread Oliver Elphick
James Mastros wrote:
  >> Do you know how ot install symbolic links?
  >ln -s  

Yes

  >Note that the source file is the one that gets created, and becomes
  >(effectively) another name for the desrination file. 

No; that's the wrong way round.

The source is the one that already exists; the destination is the
new link to be created.

ln (link) is analogous to cp (copy) and mv (move, rename), which may
help one to remember which way to put the arguments.

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/dev/isdnctrl Operation not supported....

1999-04-03 Thread Ries van Twisk

Hai, 

I'm buzy installing my Telis ISDN card on my Linux box.
Currently i'm running Debian with a 2.0.34 kernel

When I do

isdnctrl addif ippp0

I get a 'operation not supported by device' message back.
I have tryed lots and lots of things but still no luck. 

Does anybody have a clue?

Best Regards,
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Re: Newbie Questions

1999-04-03 Thread Oliver Elphick
Chris Mayes wrote:
[... other questions I have skipped ...]
  >Oh, that reminds me: where do I set the default windowmanager?

/etc/X11/window-managers


The one at the top of the list is the default.

Or edit your own .xinitrc and .xsession to change it for your self only.

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processing makefile.in

1999-04-03 Thread Micha Feigin
With what am  i suposed to process a makefile.in
(tried using make -f , and i get an answear: makefile.in:362 ***
missing seperator.
(I downloaded this from cvs and it's the first time i'm tring this so
maybe it's just not supposed to compile ?)
also, in relation to the same file, where or what is gmake?
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scheme, SLIB and JACAL

1999-04-03 Thread Mark Phillips

I have just been reading about JACAL, a symbolic mathematics system,
written under scheme.  I found its web page at

http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~jaffer/JACAL.html

It is GNU licenced, but there doesn't seem to be a debian package for
it.  Anyway, I was interested in trying it out, so I downloaded it.
It says it needs "SLIB" installed in order to run it --- in fact, SLIB
was written by the same guy who wrote JACAL.  I noticed that SLIB is
in fact packaged for Debian, so that was fine.

The next thing is to find an implementation of scheme.  I know very
little about scheme, or which scheme to used.  I saw that "rscheme"
was a package so I tried installing that.  But I didn't know how to
get SLIB initialized with it.  There seem also to be other versions of
scheme such as "guile" and more.

Could someone give me some clues as to which version of scheme I
should use, and how I should get it to use SLIB?

Thanks,

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Re: isdnctrl dialmode

1999-04-03 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, 03 Apr 1999 01:26:58 +0200, you wrote:
>when I set 'isdnctrl dialmode' to 'manual', it says that my kernel don't
>have/support this option.

You need kernel 2.0.36 to have the dialmode option.

>it's mainly to stop autodialing to the isp when I just want to connect to
>my LAN and it's irritating.

Remove the default route.

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Slink Install: Kernel Unpacking & Sound Problems

1999-04-03 Thread John Stevenson
Hello,

I have to problems that I think may be related.

1) I installed slink from scratch on a Dell Laptop (which worked
using hamm) and selected the source for kernel 2.0.36.  When I
went to the /usr/src directory, I fount the tar file had not
been extracted and therefore there was no linux symbolic link to
the extracted tarball.

This suggests that there is a bug in kernel_package somewhere,
as this happened twice.

I extracted the tarball and created the linux link to it (now
this is where I may have missed some steps out in setting up all
the neccessary links)

I then when through the make menuconfig (loading a config file I
had used for hamm to get the sound working as the defaults dont
work for my laptop).  I checked everything was still okay and
when through the make-kpkg stuff, make modules, make
modules_install.

Everything works fine, or seems to from the boot messages, but
this brings me onto problem two:

2) Sound does not work (even though it says so at boot up). 
>From looking round the filespace, none of the sound directories
in /dev seem to exist, which explains why sound wont work.

Is there anything I can do except try install the whole thing
again??

Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: Slink Install: Kernel Unpacking & Sound Problems

1999-04-03 Thread Vincent Murphy
On Sat, Apr 03, 1999 at 09:51:44AM +0200, John Stevenson wrote:
> >From looking round the filespace, none of the sound directories
> in /dev seem to exist, which explains why sound wont work.

 MAYBE you could try

   cd dev; ./MAKEDEV update

with the sb modules inserted.  this does create /dev/dsp and /dev/audio,
but i'm still getting "Cannot initialize DSP" errors.  YMMV.

-vinny

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Re: Newbie Questions

1999-04-03 Thread Mark Phillips

> Or edit your own .xinitrc and .xsession to change it for your self only.

Have you been able to work out the difference between .xinitrc and
.xsession?  From what I've been able to gather, ".xinitrc" is not used
by Debian --- is this right?

Cheers,

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Re: Newbie Questions

1999-04-03 Thread frankie
Mark Phillips wrote:
> 
> > Or edit your own .xinitrc and .xsession to change it for your self only.
> 
> Have you been able to work out the difference between .xinitrc and
> .xsession?  From what I've been able to gather, ".xinitrc" is not used
> by Debian --- is this right?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Mark.

.xinitrc is used if you start X with 'startx' and .xession if you run
xdm.

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Re: Newbie Questions

1999-04-03 Thread Mark Phillips

> > > Or edit your own .xinitrc and .xsession to change it for your self only.
> > 
> > Have you been able to work out the difference between .xinitrc and
> > .xsession?  From what I've been able to gather, ".xinitrc" is not used
> > by Debian --- is this right?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Mark.
> 
> .xinitrc is used if you start X with 'startx' and .xession if you run
> xdm.

This can't be right, as I use startx and ".xsession".

Cheers,

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Re: processing makefile.in

1999-04-03 Thread J.H.M. Dassen
On Fri, Apr 02, 1999 at 23:29:20 -0800, Micha Feigin wrote:
> With what am  i suposed to process a makefile.in

"./configure" processes it for you.

> (I downloaded this from cvs and it's the first time i'm tring this so
> maybe it's just not supposed to compile ?)

If you don't have a "./configure" script yet (quite possible with sources
from CVS), read the documenation of "autoconf" on how to generate it.

> also, in relation to the same file, where or what is gmake?

On non-GNU systems, GNU programs are sometimes installed with a "g" prefix.
It's GNU make; the regular "make" on Linux.

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Re: Potato and egcs

1999-04-03 Thread J.H.M. Dassen
On Sat, Apr 03, 1999 at 00:18:50 -0800, George Bonser wrote:
> Ok, whose big idea was it not to provide a real gcc in potato? 

Fully switching to EGCS has been planned for potato for quite some time now.

> Maybe it is me but I couldn't find one.

There isn't one, yet. We're working on building one from the gcc27 source
package.

> I did an auto-upgrade and broke my ability to compile 2.0.27-pre kernels
> cleanly.

Welcome to unstable.

> I don't mind being offered egcs but I would LIKE the chance to stay with
> gcc. Forcing egcs is fine IF debian is going to produce patched versions
> of all the latest kernels so they will work.

2.2.x is the latest kernel.

> I happen to need 2.0.37 (because it has the Initio support I need, it is
> more up to date than 2.2.5).

It can't be that difficult to update 2.2.5's from it.

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Gnuplot 3.7

1999-04-03 Thread Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira
Anyone knows when/if gnuplot 3.7 will be avaliable as Debian
package?
Have a nice day,Paulo Henrique



Re: Potato and egcs

1999-04-03 Thread J.H.M. Dassen
On Sat, Apr 03, 1999 at 03:11:50 -0800, George Bonser wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, J.H.M. Dassen wrote:
> > 2.2.x is the latest kernel.
> 
> But 2.0.37 has newer drivers than Linus' 2.2 releases ... maybe I should
> be using the ac stuff?

At the moment, I trust Alan's patches more than Linus' releases (though I
did a grep in 2.2.5-ac3 for initio, and didn't find an update (relative to
2.2.5)).

> 2.2.5 won't build with the egcs in potato either.

For a particular configuration perhaps. I've had no problems compiling
2.2.X(-acY) kernels for my systems.

> 2.2.5 is the latest kernel but 2.0.37 has the latest hardware support.

You may want to mail Alan privately to ask him to include the updated drivers
you're concerned about. (Or even better, provide him with a patch).

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Re: isdnctrl dialmode

1999-04-03 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
Bon Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> when I set 'isdnctrl dialmode' to 'manual', it says that my kernel
> don't have/support this option.
> 
> any suggestions?

You either need the kernel 2.0.x (x >= 36) or 2.2.x with the current
isdn driver patched in (e.g., ftp.suse.com/pub/isdn4linux).  Otherwise
the dialmode option is not supported by the ISDN subsystem.

Torsten

BTW: There is a newsgroup de.alt.comm.isdn4linux where you can ask
 your questions regarding isdn4linux, feel free to ask in your
 favorite language (but english and german questions are
 guaranteed to be understood my almost all readers).


Re: Newbie Questions

1999-04-03 Thread Vincent Murphy
On Sat, Apr 03, 1999 at 07:55:06PM +0930, Mark Phillips wrote:
> > .xinitrc is used if you start X with 'startx' and .xession if you run
> > xdm.
> 
> This can't be right, as I use startx and ".xsession".

 it is right if you're talking about X on other *NIX systems, but not with
debian.  debian (from slink onwards i think) has an alternative (more
elegant IMO) arrangement.  see Xsession(5).

 the short answer: .xsession is used by both startx and xdm in debian.
correct me if i'm wrong, but that's what i understood from the manpage.

-vinny

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Re: access for non-us packages

1999-04-03 Thread Randy Edwards
> I'd suguest enlightenment over wmaker,

   (Hoping not to start a flame war...:-) Why?

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Debian 2.1 iso source..

1999-04-03 Thread Gurra db
hmm.. I've dowloaded debian 2.1 source in iso files.
Wrote them to 2 cd:s and now I can't find any
installations files.. the cd don't boot and the cd label says "Debian
21 disc 3" <-- source-1.iso
on the cd I can't find any install files .. what am I missing ??

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Getting ISDN connection with kernel >= 2.2.4

1999-04-03 Thread Nuno Carvalho
Hi,

 Since kernel 2.2.3 I was unable to get my isdn connection with a PCBIT
card (manufactured in Portugal).

 My /var/log/syslog file looks like:

---cut here---
Apr  1 22:09:12 cavern kernel: ippp0: dialing 0 ... 
Apr  1 22:09:20 cavern kernel: isdn_net: local hangup ippp0 
Apr  1 22:09:20 cavern kernel: fsm error: event 4 on state 1 
Apr  1 22:09:20 cavern kernel: ippp0: Chargesum is 0 
Apr  1 22:09:28 cavern kernel: ippp0: dialing 0 ... 
Apr  1 22:09:28 cavern kernel: fsm error: event 1 on state 1 
Apr  1 22:09:36 cavern kernel: isdn_net: local hangup ippp0 
Apr  1 22:09:36 cavern kernel: fsm error: event 4 on state 1 
Apr  1 22:09:36 cavern kernel: ippp0: Chargesum is 0 
cut here--

 I already had installed the newest files needed for 2.2 kernel versions
for kernel's tree.
 Also had compiled the lastest isdn4k-utils tarball but it still the
same.

 Any help !?

 Thanks.

 Regards,
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Re: SB 128 PCI w/2.1 kernel

1999-04-03 Thread Randy Edwards
> look for /dev/audio... if it's not there
> run /dev/MAKEDEV audio

   Yes, I already have a audio device:
crw-rw-rw-   1 root audio 14,   4 Apr  1 18:18 /dev/audio
(I added the other r/w perms myself)

   Still no noise though.  I'm thinking that I need something else in the
kernel configuration (I've never played with the sound settings).  Right now
the only thing I have in the kernel configuration is "Ensoniq AudioPCI
(ES1370)" flagged as asterisk to compile it right in.  The compile goes fine,
it's just that I get no sound.  Do I need any of the OSS sound modules with
this card?

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netscape ignore's clicks

1999-04-03 Thread John Leget
Dang , id hoped this problem would dissapear, guess not.

Netscape v4.51 ( 4.5 prior) on 2.2.5 , potato, windowmaker

I occasionally find that netscape gets 'testy' and refuses to do
anything about my clicking on links exept mark them as followed, it wont
go anywhere unless i select to open the link in a new window. Gr.

Sheesh its also a memory hog for sure. :)


Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???

1999-04-03 Thread David Woolley
> The other problem that faces someone peeping over the hedge from M$
> Windows land is ``where to find the applications''. There aren't so many
> magazines reviewing Linux apps as there are reviewing M$ apps. If you

The magazines are paid for by the advertising.  They will always concentrate
on commercial products as that's where their bread and butter is (actually
I normally buy computer magazines purely for the advertising!)  It's 
something that schools seem very poor at putting across, that the world
you see in the media is not the real world, but much more of a Truman
show world.

Shops are in a similar position; if you can legally duplicate your own
Linux system, they will not give much shelf space to them, and will only
have them in jewel cases, whereas there will be vast boxes to contain
the CDs for the commercial products.

> walk into your local high street computer store you will probably see a
> few boxes of RedHat/Suse/..., and hundreds of boxes of M$ games, finance
> apps, music composition, ... This means that if you want these apps you
> need to know where to look and you really need an internet connection.

Originally the internet bypassed the traditional advertising channels,
but is now being swamped with the same sort of advertising, so even on
the internet you have to know what you are looking for these days.

On the othe hand, Linux is not set up to support dumb end users, so it
is maybe better that there is a filter to eliminate those with little
initiative.  MS products are normally designed for minimal configuration
by dumb users, and have a support organisation to cope with those who
aren't satisfied with the defaults and can't work out how to configure the
products for themselves.  Open source software is now getting overwhelmed
by end users expecting free consultancy as of right - most people are 
prepared to help those who have done their own research and failed, but
not those who just want to be told how to make things work their way
(often without clearly understanding what their way is).


Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???

1999-04-03 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Apr 01, 1999 at 12:41:20AM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> On Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:22:47 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> 
> >On Tue, Mar 30, 1999 at 08:45:09PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
> >> This is the proper thing to do since it then lets the other end decide
> >> not only *IF* they want the file, but *when* then want the file.  
> 
> >If the sending user is on a dialup connection, how on earth can this work?
> >Think about it.
> 
> Your homework assignment, should you choose to accept it, Hamish, is

Steve, your credibility would improve incredibly if you weren't so
damn patronising.

> this.  To figure out ways for people on dial-up connections to allow people
> to download files from an embedded URL.  Your tools are the following:
> 
> A local FTP client so the person can upload the file to one of the following
> An ISP/company/orignization run HTTP server.
> An ISP/company/originzation run FTP server.

This is way ugly.

> as the standards and conventions surrounding them.  One of which is the
> embedded HTTP defiled URL inside an email message sent and received by a
> combonation of SMTP and POP3/IMAP4rev2 to direct them to a proper FTP
> location.

It would be better, IMHO, for the mail client at the receipient's end
to be able to retrieve the message without any attachments, then download
them from the server if needed. I don't like the idea of pointers to files,
except where such files are ALREADY published.

> For internal corporate use, the sharing of files was, again, built into
> the systems of yesteryear.  That would be what *GROUPS* are for on the
> system we all know and love, Unix.  It is so a GROUP of people would have
> access to read and or change files so that said GROUP of people could
> cooperate on a project.

And the relevance of this paragraph is?

> So, uh, Hamish, without being to provocotive for you...  How, EXACTLY,
> would you take it to some upstart developer *demanding* changes in the way
> Debian does things even though there are clear procedures, conventions and
> techology to allow him to do exactly what he wants if he only took the time
> to learn it?  

I have absolutely no idea what this has to do with the issue of large
email messages. Perhaps you could debate this with someone who does.


Hamish
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Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???

1999-04-03 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Apr 01, 1999 at 10:41:47AM +0200, Stefan Nobis wrote:
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Hamish Moffatt
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Hamish> reason); the technology should allow users to send huge email
> Hamish> attachments if they need to. Otherwise it should be fixed.
> 
> OK, but then the user should be prepared to pay for it!
> 
> And often people in the USA seems to forget that there are other

Some people forget that not all debian.org users are in the USA.
I do pay for bandwidth here in .AU.


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Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???

1999-04-03 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Apr 02, 1999 at 03:31:34PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Work Tech Support at an ISP for two weeks.  You'll get sick of hearing
> from people who get 2-3Mb attachments from people which clogs their email
> until Admin gets in there to clear it out.  When they hear what the
> attachment is, most times it is with exasperation that they will speak with
> the individual who sent it since they didn't want it.  Happens about 4-5
> times a week on a *small* ISP of only 7,000 customers.  Meanwhile the
> converse, people complaining about large mails not getting through is maybe
> 4-5 a year.

Then educate your users and have your users educate their friends not to send
them large attachments that they don't really want. Change the technology
to fix a people problem? Ugh.


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Re: Script to check whether modem telephone line in use --- how?

1999-04-03 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Apr 01, 1999 at 06:42:40PM +0930, Mark Phillips wrote:
> Oh, and I tested out my idea for a script by using minicom.  First I
> did
>atm2
>OK
> but I couldn't hear anything.  Then I did

That just turns the speaker always-on while you are online. If you're not
online, it does nothing.

> Actually, perhaps I could try
>atd
> without actually specifying a number.  I wonder if this would work??

Yes it should.

> (And I am also curious as to why the  ABORT "NO DIALTONE" doesn't seem
> to work --- I always thought it did abort, but just took its time
> about doing so --- ie only after it had dialed the number and waited
> a while.  But from what Bud Rogers has said, it would seem the abort
> should happen straight away.)

Perhaps your modem is not reporting NO DIALTONE -- make sure you have
set ATX4 or so (assuming Rockwell-based modem).


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Re: dhcpcd problems

1999-04-03 Thread shaleh
> 
> Hi all:
> 
> I got my cable modem installed today, and now I'm trying to get it
> running under Linux. The Cable-Modem Howto directed me to the DHCP
> Howto, and it instructed me to install the dhcpcd client. I downloaded
> dhcpcd_0.70-5.deb and when I installed it I got the followinf error
> message from dpkg:
> 
> (Reading database ... 49927 files and directories currently installed.)
> Preparing to replace dhcpcd 1:0.70-5 (using dhcpcd_0.70-5.deb) ...
> Stopping DHCP client daemon: dhcpcd.
> Unpacking replacement dhcpcd ...
> Setting up dhcpcd (0.70-5) ...
> dpkg: error processing dhcpcd (--install):
>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  dhcpcd
> 
> The line indicating that it is stopping the DHCP client suggests that I
> already had it installed(?).
> 
> dpkg says that it's half-configured now. I tried getting it off a couple
> of the alternate sites with the same results.
> 

1) this package fails in 2.2 kernels and late 2.1, so get dhcpcd-sv if you use
them

2) the package dies if no /etc/resolv.conf exists and also on some other
condition, mail the maintainer to let them know of your current situation.


Broken Config. in!

1999-04-03 Thread ktb
I did a search of the archives and found others have had my problem but
didn't see any solutions except 'use make config.'  I'm attempting to
compile the stock kernel in Slink.  When I run "make xconfig" it ends
with the following error,

wish-f scripts/kconfig. tk
Warning-Broken Config. in! m was not declared!
Warning-Broken Config. in! CONFIG_ALPHA_BOK1 was not declared! 

ahwba
Thanks,
Kent


Re: Sound: DMA (output) timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error?

1999-04-03 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Apr 02, 1999 at 03:07:37PM +0100, Vincent Murphy wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 01, 1999 at 05:17:04PM -0800, Ramiel Givergis wrote:
> > I have spent about a week trying to figure out why neither
> > my Creative Labs SB16 or AWE64 work under Debian (2.2.4 2.1)
> > I think it has to do with the way my motherboard handles the
> > irq's and pnp etc.
> 
>  i have EXACTLY the same problem.

As do I. I have an SB16 PnP (Vibra 16C, not 16X). I get DMA timeouts
from some programs, but mixers and some other player programs work fine.
I use dma=1, dma16=5.

It works fine in 2.0.35, but doesn't work properly in 2.2.3.

Hamish
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Re: Sound: DMA (output) timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error?

1999-04-03 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Apr 02, 1999 at 09:42:51AM -0600, Stephen Pitts wrote:
> 1. run pnpdump > /etc/isapnp.conf
> 2. Edit isapnp.conf and uncomment the configuration that I wanted
> 3. run isapnp /etc/isapnp.conf to configure the sound card
> 4. Load the sb module automagically with kmod
> (or manually with modprobe sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=3)

dma16=3 causes an error here, because 3 is not a 16-bit DMA channel (AFAIK).

> (CONFIGURE CTL00f0/-1 (LD 0

This is not the same card as mine. Mine is CTL0070.


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Re: Exim Mail filters for Macro and other VIRUS?

1999-04-03 Thread Brian Servis
*- On  2 Apr, Kent Andersen wrote about "Exim Mail filters for Macro and other 
VIRUS?"
> does anyone know or have an idea of what I need to put on EXIM to filter for
> macro viruses and other pestelance like happy99? It would be really cool to
> catch that at the transport agent and trash it then.
> Thanks in advance!
> Kent

Check out the exim mailing list archive at 
http://www.roads.lut.ac.uk/lists/exim-users/. There has been a fair
amount of discussion on this topic on that list.

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Re: /dev/isdnctrl Operation not supported....

1999-04-03 Thread Oliver Elphick
Ries van Twisk wrote:
  >
  >Hai, 
  >
  >I'm buzy installing my Telis ISDN card on my Linux box.
  >Currently i'm running Debian with a 2.0.34 kernel
  >
  >When I do
  >
  > isdnctrl addif ippp0
  >
  >I get a 'operation not supported by device' message back.
  >I have tryed lots and lots of things but still no luck. 
  >
  >Does anybody have a clue?
  >
 
You will get this is the appropriate modules are not loaded in your
kernel.

lsmod should show isdn and a card-specific module.

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Re: Debian 2.1 iso source..

1999-04-03 Thread Remco van de Meent
Gurra db wrote:
> hmm.. I've dowloaded debian 2.1 source in iso files.
> Wrote them to 2 cd:s and now I can't find any
> installations files.. the cd don't boot and the cd label says "Debian
> 21 disc 3" <-- source-1.iso
> on the cd I can't find any install files .. what am I missing ??

Those are the ISO images containing all the source code of the programs
Debian is built from.

You need to put the binary-i386 ISO's (there are 2 of them) on a CD, they
contain the actual compiled packages you need to install Debian.


bye,
 -Remco


Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???

1999-04-03 Thread Steve Lamb
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On Sat, 3 Apr 1999 23:57:48 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

>Steve, your credibility would improve incredibly if you weren't so
>damn patronising.

I'm only patronizing to those who deserve it.

>> A local FTP client so the person can upload the file to one of the following
>> An ISP/company/orignization run HTTP server.
>> An ISP/company/originzation run FTP server.

>This is way ugly.

How so?  It is the proper way and the way it has been done for the past
decade.  

>It would be better, IMHO, for the mail client at the receipient's end
>to be able to retrieve the message without any attachments, then download
>them from the server if needed.

This would be IMAP.  However, since most unix programmers insist on
doing mail in the utterly wrong fashion Unix IMAP implimentations, even
UWashinton's own in Pine, is sorely lacking.

>I don't like the idea of pointers to files, except where such files are
>ALREADY published.

But if the sender is the one "publishing" the file surely they know
where it is.

>> For internal corporate use, the sharing of files was, again, built into
>> the systems of yesteryear.  That would be what *GROUPS* are for on the
>> system we all know and love, Unix.  It is so a GROUP of people would have
>> access to read and or change files so that said GROUP of people could
>> cooperate on a project.

>And the relevance of this paragraph is?

To point out that in a corporate intranet sending large messages via
email is also a bad idea because such sharing is generally provided by the
OS.  Even Windows has basic sharing built into it.

>> So, uh, Hamish, without being to provocotive for you...  How, EXACTLY,
>> would you take it to some upstart developer *demanding* changes in the way
>> Debian does things even though there are clear procedures, conventions and
>> techology to allow him to do exactly what he wants if he only took the time
>> to learn it?  

>I have absolutely no idea what this has to do with the issue of large
>email messages. Perhaps you could debate this with someone who does.

It is called an analogy.  I know that for backwater people, such as
yourself, that is a hard concept to grasp, but it actually works quite well.
See, I was drawing an analogy between the clueless people who want to do
everything via email because they don't know how to use other protocols, the
proper proceuders, history and conventions and the clueless people who want
to do things inside Debian because they don't know about the proper
procedures, history and conventions.

IE, I have seen you vehemently defend how Debian, as a project, does
certainly things against upstart "newbie" developers.  Now, if we take
"Debian" and replace it with "Internet", "does things" with "RFCs" and
"upstart 'newbie' developers" with "newbie internet users" we see that the
analogy does, indeed fit.

To put it another way, I was wondering why you were defending the
clueless view when it comes to adherence to the standards, conventions and
procedures of the Internet when you're one of the defenders of Debian's own
standards, conventions and procedures?  



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Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???

1999-04-03 Thread Steve Lamb
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On Sun, 4 Apr 1999 00:01:15 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
>Then educate your users and have your users educate their friends not to
>send them large attachments that they don't really want. Change the
>technology to fix a people problem? Ugh.

Yes, that is exactly what we did.  We didn't just say, "Well, that's
what people want, the technology should change to suit them."  We educated
them as to the proper way to do things.  To send URLs for files they
uploaded to our servers instead of the files themselves, for example.


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Wvdial permissions

1999-04-03 Thread Chris Mayes
I always end up doing horrible, insecure hacks in order to access the
wvdial stuff, and since I am now using wvdial's "home distribution, I'd
like to do it properly.  Here's the current error:

cmayes:~$ wvdial
--> Can't read config file: Permission denied

Here's the config file's permissions:
-rw-r-   1 root dialout   186 Mar 29 21:54 /etc/wvdial.conf

This means that the dialout group can read it, right?  So, I did this to
the dialout line of /etc/group:
dialout:x:20:cmayes:

Is that the right way to do it?  It still doesn't work, so aparrently not
;-)  As always, your help is very much appreciated.  Thanks!

-Chris


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[no subject]

1999-04-03 Thread Sharon Martin




Hi;
 
  Can you give me the price for cable hook up for the computer?  
What is the cost for hook up ?
 
Thanks 
Sharon Martin


Re: I really need help!

1999-04-03 Thread Brant Wells
Howdy Y'all

There is a way to set up an "autoexec.bat" kindof thing in Debian, based on each
user... in the users home directory, edit the ".bash_profile" This works if you 
are
using the bash shell.

HTH,
Brant

Christian Dysthe wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I had the same problem. See the thread "Where is /etc/rc.d/rc.local on Debian"
> in this mailing list a couple of days ago.
>
> No, there isn't any "autoexec.bat" in Linux. You will have to put stuff you
> want to start in etc/init.d and then update the boot scripts so that your
> additions also get included for the different runlevels. Again, there is a lot
> of information in that thread I mentioned regarding this. It was no
> is no simple task for a Linux newbie like me to grasp the boot system of 
> Linux,
> but I did get what I needed to run running.
>
> On 02-Apr-99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Nuno Donato dixit:
> >> I really need sme help here. If you can, please help me.
> >> I want to know if there is a kind of autoexec.bat file in
> >> Linux, so that each times it boots, it automatically
> >> executes some commands.
> >> I need this because I have downloaded Blender(3d Software),
> >> and i must install symbolic links. But because I don't know
> >> how to do this before running Blender I need to execute a
> >> LARGE command.
> >> Do you know how ot install symbolic links?
> >
> > You don't install symbolic links, you create them ... do `man ln' for more
> > information (`ln -s' will create a symlink).
> >
> > As for an autoexec.bat, not sure, I guess it depends on what you want to do,
> > but mostly /etc/profile, or ~/.bash_profile, ...
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Horacio
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Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???

1999-04-03 Thread Ted Harding
Folks,

Once, there was a purpose to the thread given in the subject line,
and I am most grateful to the many people who made relevant comments
on my original query about the availability of user-desirable software for
Linux.

I shall collate these and pass them on; also, it would be seemly to
summarise to the list in due course.

Meanwhile, it seems to have branched out into other topics, such as
the details of IRC and what to do about long email attachments, etc.

I have no objection to that either, but would be obliged if such
discussion could continue under different subject lines.

Best wishes to all,
Ted.


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Re: Disk usage utility?

1999-04-03 Thread Christian van Enckevort
Hi Chris,

Maybe lsof can help you. It gives a list of open files. There is a debian
package for lsof. Unfortunately it is kernel dependent. The slink version
only works for 2.0.35.

Greetings,

Christian van Enckevort


Partitions and install problem

1999-04-03 Thread Stefan Langerman

Hi,

When I installed hamm some time ago, I had the following problem:
apparently, dselect downloads everything before installing. Having only
one partition, and not too big (400Mb), at some point, it ran out of
space, and I just couldn't do anything anymore. Luckily, I had some free
space on the old DOS partition, which I reduced and added a new partition,
and I forced dselect to download its stuff on there. It worked!

I just decided  to re-install a whole new slink from scratch, and since I
am doing that, I might as well re-partition the HD. Now, I have about
600Mb total, and I would like to keep it all in one big partition (just
because it's kinda more flexible.. I don't know how much space users are
gonna need and stuff...), but I'm afraid the same problem might happen.
Does anybody know if the new installer is being more clever about this,
and if not, what is the right strategy.

Am I being crazy or immoral wanting only one partition? most Faqs and docs
I read about it say you should always make a few partitions.

Is there a tool for unix fs which allows to re-partition without
destroying everything (reducing a big one safely)?

Thanks a lot,

Stefan.


GNOME query

1999-04-03 Thread Hamish Moffatt
I'm just experimenting with GNOME -- I've never tried it before.
I downloaded some of the packages from the staging area.

Query: how do I start it? I ran panel and got a nice panel.
Later I ran gnome-session, which told me that panel was already running
and asked if I want another.

I restarted everything and just ran gnome-session, and eventually
I get a solid colour background and gnome-help but no panel.

What's the best window manager to use to? I installed enlightment
(never used this before either!) and all I get from it is a bar up the
top. No default configuration? Strange.

My xinitrc so far says

#!/bin/bash
export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin

enlightenment &
gnome-session &
xterm

Please help me make this do something useful. :-)


thanks,


Hamish (diehard fvwm2 user)

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Re: GNOME query

1999-04-03 Thread Steve Lamb
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On Sun, 4 Apr 1999 02:25:15 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

>Query: how do I start it? I ran panel and got a nice panel.
>Later I ran gnome-session, which told me that panel was already running
>and asked if I want another.

Gnome, uhm, isn't really started.  It is a collection of libraries and
an API which Gnome compliant programs use to share information.  To see
Gnome in action you'll most likely need to get some of the Gnome utilities.

>What's the best window manager to use to? I installed enlightment
>(never used this before either!) and all I get from it is a bar up the
>top. No default configuration? Strange.

Personally, I prefer icewm-gnome.  YMMV, however.  Enlightenment is nice
and flashy, but over X/VNC to my Winbox it is too slow to really be useful.

>Please help me make this do something useful. :-)

Get some of the Gnome programs, best advice I think anyone can give you.
Uhm, in dslect (dunno if you use that) look for anything which has gnome- at
the start.  Not quite sure how to do that with dpkg or apt.


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Re: Disk usage utility?

1999-04-03 Thread Remco van de Meent
Christian van Enckevort wrote:
> Maybe lsof can help you. It gives a list of open files. There is a debian
> package for lsof. Unfortunately it is kernel dependent. The slink version
> only works for 2.0.35.

That is not true. The slink version for example also works on a 2.0.36
kernel. However, you *will* get a warning, but it works fine. Of course it
won't if certain kernel API's are going to change, but that isn't likely in
the 2.0.3x range, I'd say.

bye,
 -Remco


Re: Script to check whether modem telephone line in use --- how?

1999-04-03 Thread John Hasler
Hamish writes:
> Perhaps your modem is not reporting NO DIALTONE -- make sure you have
> set ATX4 or so (assuming Rockwell-based modem).

Or perhaps it is reporting NO DIAL TONE, in which case you need to put

ABORT "NO DIAL TONE"

in your /etc/chatscripts/provider file.
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Re: Help with cdwriting

1999-04-03 Thread Dietmar Schultz
On Fri, 26 Mar 1999, Dietmar Schultz wrote:

> when I want cdrecord to do some writing on my Yamaha CDR 102 it complains:
> Cdrecord release 1.6 Copyright (C) 1995-1998 Jörg Schilling
> cdrecord: Function not implemented. shmget failed

Urghh, IPC wasn't compiled in the actual kernel I'm using. Thanks to 
strace for figuring this out. Sorry for that!

Tschau, Dietmar


top like drive usage utility?

1999-04-03 Thread Chris Brown
Hello everyone,
Our drives have occasionally been going nuts with disk access.  
They would for no reason just start reading the disk and go solid for 
10 minutes.  Is there a utility like top to check for who or what is 
accessing the disks?
Thanks,
Chris


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Re: GNOME query

1999-04-03 Thread Gary Singleton
Does icewm-gnome offer anything that icewm doesn't?  I
like icewm primarily for it's simplicity and apparent
low resource usage.  Is the gnome version just built
using the gnome libraries?

Thanks, G.S.

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> On Sun, 4 Apr 1999 02:25:15 +1000, Hamish Moffatt
> wrote:
> 
> >Query: how do I start it? I ran panel and got a
> nice panel.
> >Later I ran gnome-session, which told me that panel
> was already running
> >and asked if I want another.
> 
> Gnome, uhm, isn't really started.  It is a
> collection of libraries and
> an API which Gnome compliant programs use to share
> information.  To see
> Gnome in action you'll most likely need to get some
> of the Gnome utilities.
> 
> >What's the best window manager to use to? I
> installed enlightment
> >(never used this before either!) and all I get from
> it is a bar up the
> >top. No default configuration? Strange.
> 
> Personally, I prefer icewm-gnome.  YMMV,
> however.  Enlightenment is nice
> and flashy, but over X/VNC to my Winbox it is too
> slow to really be useful.
> 
> >Please help me make this do something useful. :-)
> 
> Get some of the Gnome programs, best advice I
> think anyone can give you.
> Uhm, in dslect (dunno if you use that) look for
> anything which has gnome- at
> the start.  Not quite sure how to do that with dpkg
> or apt.
> 
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Linux Today article

1999-04-03 Thread Mitch Blevins
Looks like our own Havoc Pennington has an article featured
on Linux Today...

http://linuxtoday.com/stories/4604.html


fs type iso9660 not supported by kernel

1999-04-03 Thread Johann Spies
I am trying to install hamm and get this message from dselect or when I
want to mount the cdrom.  I did install a cdrom as a device and did not
see iso9660 as an option amongst the filesystems during the installation
process.

Can somebody help me please?

It is not the first time I install Linux from this CD, but it is the first
time I get this error.

Johann.

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Install - which device drivers?

1999-04-03 Thread Stefan Langerman

Hi again,

Ok, I'm installing slink right now, and I'm currently in the part where
you install device drivers. Now, How do you know which are the ones you
need? most of them have only one short line of explaination, (one even
just has a '.'), and several seem to do the same thing. Is ther eany place
where I can read more about them to help me make those choices? (usually,
I just pick random stuff, and it seems to work, but I don't think it's the
best method)

Thanks a lot,

Stefan


Re: Partitions and install problem

1999-04-03 Thread Randy Edwards
> Am I being crazy or immoral wanting only one partition? most Faqs and docs
> I read about it say you should always make a few partitions.

   Using multiple partitions gives you a great deal of flexibility.  One can
easily add new stuff and reuse the old partitions for something else.  You
also gain a measure of stability -- if one of your partitions gets corrupted
or suffers some catastrophic error you lose only a partition and not the whole
system.  But with that said, no, you're not crazy.  I've installed newbies'
machines and more or less "dedicated" machines on one large partition...

   There are tools to let you repartition -- partition magic being the most
famous of them.  As far as repartitioning without losing data and having a
meaure of "safety," good luck. :-)

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Re: Newbie Questions

1999-04-03 Thread Gary Singleton
--- Mark Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
--snip--
> > .xinitrc is used if you start X with 'startx' and
> .xession if you run
> > xdm.
> 
> This can't be right, as I use startx and
> ".xsession".

Right, I use startx and I don't even have an .xinitrc.
 I did do a custom .xsession though.

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Re: SB 128 PCI w/2.1 kernel

1999-04-03 Thread Benoit Joly

On 03-Apr-99 Randy Edwards wrote:
>> look for /dev/audio... if it's not there
>> run /dev/MAKEDEV audio
> 
>Yes, I already have a audio device:
> crw-rw-rw-   1 root audio 14,   4 Apr  1 18:18 /dev/audio
> (I added the other r/w perms myself)
> 
>Still no noise though.  I'm thinking that I need something else in the
> kernel configuration (I've never played with the sound settings).  Right now
> the only thing I have in the kernel configuration is "Ensoniq AudioPCI
> (ES1370)" flagged as asterisk to compile it right in.  The compile goes fine,
> it's just that I get no sound.  Do I need any of the OSS sound modules with
> this card?

no, dont need to load oss driver, just the es1370
what do you get at boot?

send the output of dmesg (just the part related to es1370)
send the output of /dev/sndstat

Benoit


Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???

1999-04-03 Thread Stefan Nobis
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Hamish Moffatt
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>>> The problem of (huge) attachments or huge mails in general is, that
>>> the recipient often never asked to get it, but the sender sended it
>>> without being asked to do.

Hamish> In the case of mailing lists, I agree. In the case of other mail,
Hamish> this is not my experience at all.

I get from time to time mails from friends and even from people i
don't know with attachments some times greater than 1MB. And i'm
always very angry about it, cause i do pay for my telphone connection
(4 minutes costs me 12 german Pfennige, about 0,07US$). And none of
these persons asked me, if i'm interested in the picture, large text,
animation or the like. And never asked i someone of these to send me
that thing.

I talked to much other users and i often get excatly that complaint.

And this has nothing to do with mailinglists.

But if you are so happy about big emails, what about sending you the
X11 sources? Without asking you about sending it. Will you be happy
about that?

The question is: What is big and what is too big? Everybody i can
think of will get angry if i send him/her the X11 sources without
being asked to do so. So X11 sources are clearly too big. What about a 
50MB animation? What about a 5MB picture? What about a 100KB text?

Do you get the point? To send emails bigger than about 40-80KB without 
being asked to do so and without asking the recipient is not very nice 
and i would call it an offence.

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Good MP3 encoder

1999-04-03 Thread wax_man
Does anyone know of a good MP3 encoder for linux?  I have an old copy
of 8hz-mp3, but it takes like 10hrs to rip and encode a cd.  I'd prefer
an open source encoder, but am not opposed to a commercial one.  I just
want to get one that is fast.

TIA,

chris


Re: GNOME query

1999-04-03 Thread William R Pentney
On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Steve Lamb wrote:

> >What's the best window manager to use to? I installed enlightment
> >(never used this before either!) and all I get from it is a bar up the
> >top. No default configuration? Strange.
> 
> Personally, I prefer icewm-gnome.  YMMV, however.  Enlightenment is nice
> and flashy, but over X/VNC to my Winbox it is too slow to really be useful.

I just installed GNOME and use it with fvwm2, and it seems to work nicely,
but I haven't tried it with others yet. Am I missing out on anything? Is
this a particularly bad choice?

- Bill


network interface

1999-04-03 Thread Jianbo Wang
Hi,

When I played with redhat, it has netcfg to create and config a network
interface, does anyone know if there is a software in debian to do the
same thing? Or how can I create a network interface and activate it?

Thanks!

Jianbo 





Re: SB 128 PCI w/2.1 kernel

1999-04-03 Thread Randy Edwards
> no, dont need to load oss driver, just the es1370

   That's what I thought after reading the kernel es1370 docs; good.  Right
now I've got the driver compiled straight into the kernel (not as a module).

> what do you get at boot?

   Things look fine.  Dmesg tells me:
es1370: version v0.17 time 19:20:41 Apr  2 1999
es1370: found adapter at io 0xe800 irq 5
es1370: features: joystick off, line in, mic impedance 0

> send the output of /dev/sndstat

   Interesting, how do I get anything out of it?  I've got the device listed
as:
crw-rw-rw-   1 root audio 14,   6 Apr  3 08:18 /dev/sndstat
and if I try to cat it as root I just get a "No such device".

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Re: SB 128 PCI w/2.1 kernel

1999-04-03 Thread James Mastros
On Sat, Apr 03, 1999 at 01:14:10PM -0500, Randy Edwards wrote:
> > no, dont need to load oss driver, just the es1370
> 
>That's what I thought after reading the kernel es1370 docs; good.  Right
> now I've got the driver compiled straight into the kernel (not as a module).
> 
>Interesting, how do I get anything out of it?  I've got the device listed
> as:
> crw-rw-rw-   1 root audio 14,   6 Apr  3 08:18 /dev/sndstat
> and if I try to cat it as root I just get a "No such device".

Somthing tells me that perhaps you don't have soundcore?  (What, I couldn't
say, as I don't have the kernel sources about.)  Do you have a /proc/sound?

-=- James Mastros


vi in Debian (slink)

1999-04-03 Thread Pollywog
vi is acting weird, and I just discovered that vi on my system is not really
vim.  Isn't vi really just a symlink to vim on most systems?

vim works well, but vi is weird.  It acts buggy. 


thanks

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Re: error running make

1999-04-03 Thread Stephen Pitts
On Fri, Apr 02, 1999 at 05:14:03PM -1000, Shawn Nguyen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I downloaded imwheel 0.9.5 and ran the make command and got an
> error.  I was wondering if you knew what I am missing.  It looks like
> when it's trying to look for some X library and other stuff.
> 
> jax.h:6: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory
> jax.h:7: X11/Xutil.h: No such file or directory
> jax.h:8: X11/Xresource.h: No such file or directory
> 
> So of course it doesn't let me install imwheel.  Am I missing something
> that it needs?  Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> Shawn Nguyen
> 
> 
> 
> 
You need xlib6g-dev
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Re: network interface

1999-04-03 Thread thomas lakofski
On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Jianbo Wang wrote:

> 
> When I played with redhat, it has netcfg to create and config a network
> interface, does anyone know if there is a software in debian to do the
> same thing? Or how can I create a network interface and activate it?

dinstall on the rescue disk does the initial configuration of the network
on debian systems -- it's easy enough, however, to just go and edit
/etc/init.d/network yourself.  have a look at 'man ifconfig'.  on 2.0.x
kernels you'll need to add a route to the interface yourself too, on 2.2.x
the kernel takes care of that when you configure an interface.

-thomas

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Re: vi in Debian (slink)

1999-04-03 Thread thomas lakofski
On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Pollywog wrote:

> vi is acting weird, and I just discovered that vi on my system is not really
> vim.  Isn't vi really just a symlink to vim on most systems?
> 
> vim works well, but vi is weird.  It acts buggy. 

/usr/bin/vi is linked to /etc/alternatives/vi; take a look at what
/etc/alternatives/vi is linked to, and change it if you want to.

-thomas

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Re: Install - which device drivers?

1999-04-03 Thread thomas lakofski
On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Stefan Langerman wrote:

> 
> Ok, I'm installing slink right now, and I'm currently in the part where
> you install device drivers. Now, How do you know which are the ones you
> need? most of them have only one short line of explaination, (one even
> just has a '.'), and several seem to do the same thing. Is ther eany place
> where I can read more about them to help me make those choices? (usually,
> I just pick random stuff, and it seems to work, but I don't think it's the
> best method)

well, what hardware do you have on your machine?  lots of modules
(=drivers) will load automatically when needed, if not then install them
at this point.  the program it runs is called 'modconf', you can get back
to it after install.

hth,

-thomas

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Re: vi in Debian (slink)

1999-04-03 Thread Pollywog

On 03-Apr-99 thomas lakofski wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Pollywog wrote:
> 
>> vi is acting weird, and I just discovered that vi on my system is not
>> really
>> vim.  Isn't vi really just a symlink to vim on most systems?
>> 
>> vim works well, but vi is weird.  It acts buggy. 
> 
> /usr/bin/vi is linked to /etc/alternatives/vi; take a look at what
> /etc/alternatives/vi is linked to, and change it if you want to.
> 

I looked there and it is linked to something called 'nvi' which I have never
even heard of.  I will change it to vim.

thanks

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Re: top like drive usage utility?

1999-04-03 Thread thomas lakofski
On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Chris Brown wrote:

> Our drives have occasionally been going nuts with disk access.  
> They would for no reason just start reading the disk and go solid for 
> 10 minutes.  Is there a utility like top to check for who or what is 
> accessing the disks?

actually, top will do it quite nicely in many cases -- processes which are
blocked on i/o are shown in the 'D' state.  run top while the disks are
getting nailed and spot the process(es) in 'D' state.

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Re: Wvdial permissions

1999-04-03 Thread thomas lakofski
On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Chris Mayes wrote:

> This means that the dialout group can read it, right?  So, I did this to
> the dialout line of /etc/group:
> dialout:x:20:cmayes:

close:

dialout:x:20:cmayes

you would separate users by commas if you had more than one in that group.

the 'adduser' command will do this for you, actually:

adduser cmayes dialout

hth,

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Re: Good MP3 encoder

1999-04-03 Thread Vincent Murphy
On Sat, Apr 03, 1999 at 12:46:12PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> of 8hz-mp3, but it takes like 10hrs to rip and encode a cd.  I'd prefer
> an open source encoder, but am not opposed to a commercial one.  I just
> want to get one that is fast.

 i use cdparanoia for ripping and bladeenc for encoding.  i don't think
they're free, but they are downloadable.  look them up on freshmeat.

-vinny

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Re: Good MP3 encoder

1999-04-03 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Vincent Murphy wrote:

 : On Sat, Apr 03, 1999 at 12:46:12PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 : > of 8hz-mp3, but it takes like 10hrs to rip and encode a cd.  I'd prefer
 : > an open source encoder, but am not opposed to a commercial one.  I just
 : > want to get one that is fast.
 : 
 :  i use cdparanoia for ripping and bladeenc for encoding.  i don't think
 : they're free, but they are downloadable.  look them up on freshmeat.

cdparanoia is deb packaged.  I also use bladeenc for encoding; it's not
DFSG free but is free for download.

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