Re: Question about new 'g' packages in unstable

1997-10-16 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Wed, Oct 15, 1997 at 10:22:33AM -0400, Scott Ellis wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Oct 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > You have to *upgrade* xlib6 before installing xlib6g (which conflicts only
> > to older versions of xlib6. I hope you know that you are going to use the
> > hamm system, which is somewhat unstable (because of the change from libc5
> > to libc6. xlib6 is libc5, and xlib6g is libc6, and they are not
> > kompatible. PLease be shure to read the From xlib5 to xlib6 mini HOWTO
> > from Scott (?) Ellis (??) here on the list (check the archive or mail me,
> > and I will send you one).
> 
> Yes you got my name right :)  And the latest updated version is at
> http://www.gate.net/~storm/FAQ/  (in about every format you could want)

I hesitated, but I could have written StormCrow, formerly known as Scott
Ellis, now that I lurked a bit at IRC ;)

thanks for the location...

Marcus

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Re: man-db ocassionally needs to be re-installed.

1997-10-16 Thread Andy Spiegl
This is a little off-topic, but related to man-pages, too.

My problem is that - when running "man -a" as I always do - I often
get to see man pages multiple times.  See this as an example:

~>man -w rename
/usr/man/man2/rename.2.gz /var/catman/cat2/rename.2.gz 
/usr/man/man3/rename.3tcl.gz /var/catman/cat3/rename.3tcl.gz 
/usr/man/man3/rename.3tcl.gz /var/catman/cat3/rename.3tcl.gz 
/usr/man/man3/rename.3tcl.gz /var/catman/cat3/rename.3tcl.gz 

I don't know when this started to happen, and I have no idea
what has gone wrong.  For example, I never anything in manpath.config

A trimmed down output of "dpkg -l '*man*'" is here:
pn  man  (no description available)
un  man-aeb  (no description available)
un  man-browser  (no description available)
ii  man-db  2.3.10-38  Display the on-line manual.
ii  manpages1.15-4 Section 2, 3, 4, 5 and 7 manpages
pn  manpages-de  (no description available)
pn  manpages-es  (no description available)
pn  manpages-fr  (no description available)
pn  manpages-it  (no description available)

Hm, now this is funny, since I do have (some) german manpages.
Oh, boy, this confuses me.  HELP!  :-)

Maybe, the contents (without comments) of manpath.config will help:
# man_db.config
MANDATORY_MANPATH   /usr/man
MANDATORY_MANPATH   /usr/X11R6/man
MANDATORY_MANPATH   /usr/local/man

MANPATH_MAP /bin/usr/man
MANPATH_MAP /usr/bin/usr/man
MANPATH_MAP /sbin   /usr/man
MANPATH_MAP /usr/sbin   /usr/man
MANPATH_MAP /usr/local/bin  /usr/local/man
MANPATH_MAP /usr/local/sbin /usr/local/man
MANPATH_MAP /usr/local/bin/X11  /usr/local/man
MANPATH_MAP /usr/X11R6/bin  /usr/X11R6/man
MANPATH_MAP /usr/games  /usr/man

MANDB_MAP   /usr/man/de_DE  /var/catman/de_DE
MANDB_MAP   /usr/man/it_IT  /var/catman/it_IT
MANDB_MAP   /usr/man/var/catman
MANDB_MAP   /usr/local/man  /var/catman/local
MANDB_MAP   /usr/X11R6/man  /var/catman/X11R6

Thanks a lot in advance,
 Andy.

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magicfilter and (pdf => postscript) problems

1997-10-16 Thread J.Sigbrandt

Hi,

Need to get pdf file printing working using magicfilter.
The printer is a LaserJet 4P (no postscript module)

Looked at the bug reports and came across the suggestion to 
include this line in the ljet-filter file:

# PDF - Added by CRT 97/05/12
0   %PDFpipe/usr/bin/acroread  -toPostScript   

After experimenting with this, I've come to the conclusion
that, on my machine at least, this is *not* a good idea.  It would
be best to use ghostscript directly.

Assuming a test file name of 'test', I've tried a few experiments.
First of all I needed a .pdf file, and the easiest way to obtain one 
was to create one from a postscript file using ps2pdf.  


to .ps using pdf2ps


Convert test.pdf to a .ps file using pdf2ps.
One time when printing there were a few aesthetic 
problems (the first lines of the 2nd page were overlaid on the 
first page). However at least it did print on the LaserJet.  
Another time the first sheet had some errors (not identical 
to before, but similar: 'operand stack: --nostringval-')
But the main printout was clean.

(in support of above weirdness here is another report:
http://xp9.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?recnum=1304495&server=db97p4x&;
CONTEXT=876965612.1870135791&hitnum=0
admitedly using a different printer)

Same again, except final actual viewing and printing done 
in gv.  Again the first sheet had the beginnings of the 2nd
page, but the main printout was good.

Tried a different file.  First it was converted to postscript
using pdf2ps, then viewed with gv and printed.  No problems.


use gv to print .pdf


Secondly the pdf file was viewed directly in gv and printed. 
This time there were problems.  Again the first line of the 2nd 
page followed by a few lines of ghostscript type error messages 
appeared on a first sheet.  However the printout itself
appeared *unblemished* on a separate sheet.


use gs to print .pdf


Thirdly, tried using the magicfilter commandline for postscript
directly on the test.pdf file:

gs -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -r600 -sDEV=ljet4 -sOutputFile=\|lpr test.pdf

This time there were no problems at all. :-)))  One problem with
the above command line is that ghostscript requires a ^D to exit.

The aesthetic problems encountered were probably those documented 
in the file /usr/doc/gs/NEWS.gz

Due to the above success I tried to add the following line to
/usr/sbin/ljet4-filter:

0   %PDFfilter  /usr/bin/gs -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -r600 -sDEVICE=ljet4 
-sOutputFile=- -

but this again gives the lpd error:
lpd[16653]: lp: Daemon filter 'f' terminated (13)
My guess is that ghostscript isn't exiting cleanly after the conversion.
The 13 corresponds to value of status.w_termsig in lpd file printjob.c
w_termsig is defined in /usr/include/waitstatus.h

The following DejaNews article seems to be using the same idea tho :-?
http://xp5.dejanews.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]&serv
er=db96q5&CONTEXT=876965923.1249771631&hitnum=3
admittedly, again, using a different printer ...


catting into gs to ljet4


Using the following command gives errors:

cat index.pdf.ps2pdf | gs  -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -r600 -sDEVICE=ljet4 
-sOutputFile=\|lpr -

The errors are:

Unrecoverable error: ioerror in bytesavailable
Operand stack:
--nostringval--  --nostringval--

Unexpected interpreter error -12.
Error object: (f80)op(174:bytesavailable)0x802ccf0
Operand stack at 0x80f3478:
0x80faea4: 0x03 file --S-rx--- 0x0001 0x080f6d70
0x80faeac: 0x03 file --S-rx--- 0x0001 0x080f6d70
Execution stack at 0x80f34cc:
0x80fc80c: 0x0f oper --F---e-- 0x 0x0801ef80 = %interp_exit
0x80fc814: 0x12 str  --F-rxe-- 0x 0x =
0x80fc81c: 0x03 file --L-rxe-- 0x0001 0x08104048
0x80fc824: 0x05 mpry --G-rxe-- 0x0020 0x0815d694
0x80fc82c: 0x05 mpry --G-rxe-- 0x0057 0x0815db30
0x80fc834: 0x05 mpry --G-rxe-- 0x0039 0x08132c76
Dictionary stack at 0x80f33f4:
0x80fd03c: 0x02 dict --Gwrx--- 0x 0x080fd18c
0x80fd044: 0x02 dict --Gwrx--- 0x 0x08141e18
0x80fd04c: 0x02 dict --Lwrx--- 0x 0x08102090
0x80fd054: 0x02 dict --Lwrx--- 0x 0x08102090
0x80fd05c: 0x02 dict --Gwrx--- 0x001c 0x0814fd8c
0x80fd064: 0x02 dict --Gwrx--- 0x 0x08158960
0x80fd06c: 0x02 dict --Lwrx--- 0x0815 0x081042dc



to .ps using acroread


Convert test.pdf to a .ps file using acroread.  Obtained a 
postscript file, but when attempting to print to a HPLaserJet4P, 
lpd gave the error:

lpd[16425]: lp: Daemon filter 'f' terminated (13)

However the same file *would* print fine to a postscript printer.

Investigating further, by grabbing the command used by magicfilter:

gs -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -r600 -sDEVICE=ljet4 -sOutputFile=test.lj4 test.ps

reveals the following error message in gs:

Error: /undefinedresource in true
Operand stack:
   false   --dict:13/13--
Execution stack:
   %

Re: /dev files

1997-10-16 Thread Shaul Karl.
> Is there a list explaining what each /dev file is used for?  I was
> looking to cut down on my inode use by trimming /dev down some.  I am
> using Debian as a home workstation so I figured some of it wsa
> superfluous.

The Documentation/devices.txt under the linux src tree might help.




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Re: msdos file system

1997-10-16 Thread Shaul Karl.
> Sorry, I missed the original post.  I think you are looking for mformat,
> available in the mtools package.  This may only work on floppies (not
^^
It depends on the configuration
of the mttols. 

> sure).  I personally prefer superformat which is on the rescue image, but
> not part of the base installation (and no where else that I know of, so I
> stole it :-).
> 
> Good luck,
> Brandon




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Re: Login's source absent

1997-10-16 Thread Shaul Karl.
> Hi, 
> 
> I wanted to see the source of a program login, and modify the greeting,
> and responses, however, I didn't find it under
> bo/source/base/[login]
> Is there any reason for it's absence?
> And where can I find the source for it?
> 
> Or should I fiddle with PAM?

Using some agetty switches and the /etc/issue, /etc/motd files can do part of 
this work.





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Networking Problem

1997-10-16 Thread Alfred Herbert
Problem getting debian 1.3.1 to work with network card.

I have a Racal Interlan NI6510 chipset (AM7990) network card. During
the debian install the card is detected and the driver is installed
into the kernel, but when I reboot the machine, I am getting a
-- Network not started -- message, and I can't seem to ping my Windows
NT 4.0 workstation. Can someone tell me what I am not doing right.

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libgdbmg1_1.7.3-21.deb

1997-10-16 Thread Matt Thompson
I was trying to install this package and came up with the following
errors:

mattyt# dpkg -i libgdbmg1_1.7.3-21.deb
dpkg: regarding libgdbmg1_1.7.3-21.deb containing libgdbmg1:
 libgdbmg1 conflicts with libgdbm1 (<= 1.7.3-20)
  libgdbm1 (version 1.7.3-19) is installed.
dpkg: error processing libgdbmg1_1.7.3-21.deb (--install):
 conflicting packages - not installing libgdbmg1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 libgdbmg1_1.7.3-21.deb

...is it ok to to a --force-conflicts, or should I do a dpkg -r libgdbm1
or what?

thanks,
matty

Matt Thompson 
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707 S. Grady Wayf-206.430.3420
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Re: Linux as a mail and intranetserver

1997-10-16 Thread Carey Evans
Dirk Kievith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

[snip]

> Any idea where I can check out qmail?

There's an experimental unreleased package under projects/experimental
(or something) on most Debian mirrors.  Also see
http://www.qmail.org/> for more information in general.

> >There's basically just one choice for web proxy: squid.  
> 
> This comes with the Debian release or is it to be found elsewhere?

It's part of Debian.

A further note about using Linux as a server for Win95: you probably
want to check out Samba, which lets your Linux server show up for file
and print serving under the Network Neighbourhood, like an NT server.
It's a Debian package, of course.

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kernel: Warning: possible SYN flooding. Sending cookies. 
kernel: validated probe(17f, 17f, 11557, 5010, -1645409555) 


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Re: man page for mkfs.ext2 ??

1997-10-16 Thread Fabrizio Polacco
Bob Nielsen wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 15 Oct 1997, Chris R. Martin wrote:
> 
> > I'm in the process of copying my Debian system to a new (larger)
> > partition and I want to tinker with the number of inodes, etc. 
> > The man page for mkfs refers me to the man page for mkfs.ext2...
> > but I don't have it!
> > Does anyone know which package this belongs in? I thought I got
> > all the man pages...
> 
> I don't know why, but try 'man mke2fs' instead.
> 

It was a bug in package e2fsprogs, fixed in recent versions.
It's missing a symlink from mke2fs.8.gz to mkfs.ext2.8.gz


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Re: man-db ocassionally needs to be re-installed.

1997-10-16 Thread Fabrizio Polacco
Andy Spiegl wrote:
> 
> This is a little off-topic, but related to man-pages, too.
> 
> My problem is that - when running "man -a" as I always do - I often
> get to see man pages multiple times.

Yes, and if you skip one choosing Ctrl-D its entry disappear from the
next run (and from the whatis database).
All are known problems, fixed in the latests versions.
I've built "bo" (aka "for Debian 1.3) version numbered 42-51, while the
"hamm" are numbered >52 .
Latest ( -44 ) went installed just yesterday into:
 project/experimental/man-db_2.3.10-44_i386.deb 

You can have the .deb binary also from 
ftp://ftp.icenet.fi/private/fpolacco/debian/libc5

FYI, here is a list of recent changes (post -38 in 1.3.1), from the
changelog file (in reverse order, recent on top):
  * avoided bashism in debian/rules.
  * deleted bogus files with spaces embedded in name (#13888)
  * applied patch for alpha by <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> #13851
  * zsoelim.l - added new start condition to avoid expansion of .so
 requests inside a macro definition. (fixes #2969 and #13812)
  * added quote around var in mkcatdirs (fixes #13738, tx M.Konarski)
  * added removal of tempfiles from handler for SIGINT
 (fixes bug#13352 Thanks to John Goerzen)
  * changed way to call groff adding -P-g so grops can guess a page size
 (fixes #13563 uncorrectly assigned to groff, thx John Kallal)
  * solved deletion of entries in index when skipping their display
 (#10483)
  * wiped wrong message displayed when skipping display of manpage.
  * avoided redundant searches for section names longer than one char.
  * Added removal of tempfiles via atexit().
  * restored original order in search sections (3 before 2) changed by
 previous maintainer (don't know why) (#12192 thx Juan Cespedes)
  * redirecting unusefull error messages in postrm and preinst (#12224)
  * doesn't provide gencat anymore, but can't use libc6's gencat.
 (#9841)
  * Changed tests in postinst to work with ash (#12212 thx Herbert Xu)
  * Changed define of debian version for use in non-debian systems
 (thanx to Albert Chin-A-Young); added file include/version.h
  * (Italian version) Minori correzioni a mandb.m da parte di Borto.
  * several corrections to it's => its typos in manpages [man(1),
 manpath(1),
 zsoelim(1), mandb(8)] Fixes Bug#11440 thanx to David Damerell.
  * Restore correct NAMN swedish parse for whatis (bug introduced by me
 fixing #6497 on version -34) Thanx to John F. Bunch. (fixes #12069)
  * Fixed segfault using an empty arg to -S option (Bug#12074, Thx
 Herbert Thielen)
  * Fixed wrong manpath behaviour (Bug#10377, Thanx to Michael Lachmann)
  * reduced output in postinst (Bug#11902).
  * included execution of chmanconfig (which adds MANDB_MAP lines for
 lang manpages) inside mkcatdirs (which creates catdir hierarchies).
  * added debian version info to option -V
  * corrected a couple of italian messages that didn't work (Grazie 
 Borto)
  * added nlsutils in Replaces: field of control file (fixes Bug#9943)
  * Ugly typo in debian/rules that made .dwww-index disappear from last
 version (-38): my fault! (sigh) (autoBug#10130)
  * dropped scan of current directory if explicitly present in PATH both
 as an empty entry or an explicit dot; this used to left index files
 here and there.  (fixes Bug#10039, thanks to Giuliano Procida)
  * allowed non "man" dirs if in manpath.config
 (now accepts manpages hierarchies like /usr/share/ucbman)
 fixes Bug#9947, thanks to Richard Kettlewell.


Cheers,
Fabrizio
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Very weird behaviour - hardware failure ?

1997-10-16 Thread G. Crimp
I wonder, if he were alive today, would Galileo have used my monitor and
computer instead of an apple and a feather to experiment with gravity.  I
think I would. 

My system is behaving very strangely since I installed Debian.  I had
Slackware on my box before and it seemed to behave as one would expect.  I
was despondent at first because it seemed that I could not configure
Debian to behave as I come to expect with Slackware.  Now I suspect
something far more insidious and hope someone out there will recognize the
problem.  In short, am I experiencing a hardware failure ? 

The symptoms involve hda errors, kernel panics, making a ppp connection
with PAP, and freaky xdm light shows.  Personally I am beginning to
suspect that my hard disk has gone, but don't know enough to say for sure. 
Maybe something else is going that makes it look like the HD has gone. 
Maybe its software somewhere. 

Symptom # 1 Preparing my Linux partitions for the Deb install.

When initializing an ext2 Linux native partition with a bad-block
scan things started out fine with

checking for bad blocks (read only test):   xx/542776

but then things started to get nasty and I got messages like the following
interspersed with the above message

hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error 
]
hda: read_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect = x,
sector=yyy
end_request: I/O error, dev 03:07, sector yyy

I got about a gazillion of these error messages.  At first I thought that
all of a sudden something had happened to my disk that was causing blocks
to go bad, but I am no longer so sure.  I did get the install finished and
Debian seemed to be working. 

Symptom # 2 Disappearing DOS partitions

Before I installed Linux I had DOS primary partition and an extended
partition containing two logical drives.  When I bought the computer, I
knew I would be installing Linux, so I only used about a third of the disk
for these DOS partitions.  I didn't have to use fips or anything similar
to get ready for Linux. 

After installing Linux everything seemed hunky-dory.  I could access C:,
D:, and E: from both Linux and form DOS or Windoze 3.1.  Then one day, in
windoze I went to File Manager to look for something on D:, and neither D:
nor E: was visible -- no little driver icon to click on on the driver icon
bar. 

I can still see them from Linux however.

Symptom # 3 Seeming random hd i/o timeouts

I can't remember the exact message to this error and can not find where I
wrote it.  But it was hard disk i/o timeouts that started with "hda:
status error" or somesuch, then said "hda: drive not ready for command"
then something or other about resetting and things being okay.  This never
caused a crash or anything but happened doing things like an "ls".  I
could get these messages in the middle of a directory listing if the
directory was long. 

I haven't had this  problem for awhile.

Sympton # 4 Kernel Panics

I foolishly didn't write down all of these and now can't remember what I
was doing when these panics happened.  They were always during ordinary
things though.  The most recent happened when I was trying to get my new
ppp connection setup with pppd and chat.  I was just testing a new script
and whammo!  Dirty powerdown. 

Just found a message from one of the first times this happened

message from syslogd
Kernel: Kernel panic: EXT2 fs panic (device 03:07): ext2_read_inode: 
unable
to read i-node block - inode = , block= y

When I tried to shutdown -r now I got

hda: status error: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest 
Error ]
hda: status error: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect = 
x,
sector=yyy
end_request: I/O error, dev 03:07, sector yyy

got that four times then

hda: drive not ready for command
bash: /sbin/shutdown: I/O error

Symptom # 5  pppd not working

I'm not sure if this one is me or my new ISP (not the freenet) but I will
mention it anyway. pppd connects, I get assigned my IP address, ifconfig
reports the ppp0 interface and the lo interface, and route -n reports the
host, the local loopback and the gateway.  Then I can do nothing.  Can't
telnet, ftp or browse known sights, can't even ping the host I am
connected to and it can not ping me (talked to my ISP).  No one else seems
to having problems. The server was happily working with other dial-in
clients while we spoke and the ISP was able to ping them.  This is a
connection that was working. 

Then as I mentioned in the above symptom, a kernel panic was provoked.

Symptom # 6  xdm light show

The latest in this series of frustrating little phenomena is the strobe
effect I was getting from xdm.  From xdm I did a control-alt-F1 to get
back to the console.  I was going to shutdown but then wanted to go back
to xdm to do something.  I hit alt-F

Re: Linux as a mail and intranetserver

1997-10-16 Thread Lorens Kockum
On Wed, Oct 15, 1997 at 10:36:11PM +0500, Dirk Kievith wrote:
> 
> What I would need is a support for multiple email users on one or two
> machines, like Pegasus Mail. The kind of thing they implement in a college
> I suppose. Thus password protected login would also be necessary. Pegasus
> does not feature that either.
> 
> Suppose I will have to shift to Linux-based-email-packages?? :-)

Well, the simplest solution would be to give your users an account on the
machine, with login and password, and let them telnet into the box.

Bingo, the only security problems you have are the ones you would have
anyway (except for somebody using the shell account to hack the debian
server, but well, no), and the security on the Mess-DOS thingummies is not
relevant to the security of the Linux box.

>From the shell account, any common Unix mail-reader can be used, Emacs does
it (like it does everything else), and elm, mutt and pine are specialized,
easy-to-use and light-weight solutions.

Netscrape could be used on another plane, without user authentication.

Unless, of course, you don't want your users hanging around on a Unix box...
Everything depends on the level of the users, maybe using a different system
would be asking too much ?

Another solution is to consider a secure Mess-DOS part [1] and a working
Samba solution, and to deliver into the Samba-exported directory for each
user. I don't know if it would work, more specifically I don't know if Samba
lets the normal Unix processes write to the Samba-exported directories as if
there were normal ext2fs Linux partitions. 

Hope this opened up an avenue of choice :-)

[1] that's an oxymore, ie. a contradiction in terms :-)

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xmix

1997-10-16 Thread Matt Thompson
hello, again, y'all,

well, i've got most of the hamm packages installed so far. RealAudio from
Netscape, and the GIMP work great!  thanks loads for all of your help.
incidentally, it's stable so far, but i'll keep ya up to speed.

now to the subject:  i re-installed xmix from dselect (accessing hamm, of
course) and when i try to start it, i get:

Segmentation fault (core dumped)

...i thought it might be a permissions problem, but the same thing happens
as root.

???

thanks,
matty

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Re: mutt 0.84-0 [PGP-capable??]

1997-10-16 Thread Frank Barknecht
[EMAIL PROTECTED] hat gesagt: // [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 14, 1997 at 03:08:12PM -0500, Joe Stewart wrote:
> > Received this from debian-changes list - where can it be downloaded from?
> 
> It is still in master's Incoming directory, presumably because it needs
> manual processing. I've put a copy at
> ftp://ftp.wi.leidenuniv.nl/pub/linux/devel-ray/ 
> 
> Ray

Does this mutt-84-package support PGP?
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Re: libgdbmg1_1.7.3-21.deb

1997-10-16 Thread Santiago Vila Doncel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

On Wed, 15 Oct 1997, Matt Thompson wrote:

> I was trying to install this package and came up with the following
> errors:
> 
> mattyt# dpkg -i libgdbmg1_1.7.3-21.deb
> dpkg: regarding libgdbmg1_1.7.3-21.deb containing libgdbmg1:
>  libgdbmg1 conflicts with libgdbm1 (<= 1.7.3-20)
>   libgdbm1 (version 1.7.3-19) is installed.
> dpkg: error processing libgdbmg1_1.7.3-21.deb (--install):
>  conflicting packages - not installing libgdbmg1
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  libgdbmg1_1.7.3-21.deb
> 
> ...is it ok to to a --force-conflicts, or should I do a dpkg -r libgdbm1
> or what?

Upgrade to libgdbm1_1.7.3-22 first. Then install libgdbmg1.
[ Then, you may try to remove libgdbm1 if you like (but do not use
- --force-anything), it will work if no program is using it ].

The same trick should work for all "g" packages containing shared
libraries.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: 2.6.3ia
Charset: noconv

iQCVAwUBNEXnEiqK7IlOjMLFAQFM6QP/S+d7ejhTuRgQVU3g7zAw+DdsKQcOncSt
GYgHBytrBnIcerzipfE1ro6m8YYt2hUlcKZ0l7g8D0JGXrTOd1Wct26diPItZQBf
D+9PeEE0iBO8G+U8ll7VXzEIefPbXFp9DMqA2gOjxv/7CkeUz8im/xcuOhNApRmD
0lWNH+FDhCc=
=S7r7
-END PGP SIGNATURE-


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Smail configuration, rewriting from line

1997-10-16 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
I configured smail using smailconfig using the following options:

  ail generated on this system will have `bln.de' used
  as the host part (after the @) in the From: field and similar places.

  Message-ID's, Received lines, etc. will use the system's canonical
  hostname, which is currently set to marvin.bln.de.

  The following hostname(s) will be recognised as referring to this system:
   marvin.bln.de, bln.de

  Mail for postmaster, root, etc. will be sent to root.

  Local mail is delivered.

  Outbound remote mail is sent to mail.combox.de
  via SMTP and TCP/IP (using any MX records in the DNS).

Everything works fine so far, if not online all external mail is
queued and if online the mail are sent immediatly.

Now I look for a way to rewrite my from line using smail.  Without any
interaction it would generate [EMAIL PROTECTED] which is obviously wrong
(as my really pop account is called [EMAIL PROTECTED]).

Does smail support this?

I already tried the alias mechanism which is the other way round.
Unfortunatly I couldn't find further information in the smail
documentation or the smail FAQ.

Thanks for your help,

Torsten

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Re: I can lock up machine. Why?

1997-10-16 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Hey.
> 
> I've been doing lots of programming lately and have noticed (how could I
> not) that I am reliably able to cause my machine to lockup.
> 
> [Delete some lines]
> 
> open a document in xfte that is several pages long.
> Quickly scroll through it using the page up and page down keys.
> In as little time as a minute I'm able to lock the machine solid --
> no disk access, nothing.  

You are running that under X?  Can you try a remote login or use an
external terminal?  Maybe this application just blocks all mouse and
key events from X so you can't even Zap it or switch to another
console.  But login via terminals or network still works.  I don't
know xfte, maybe this is a Motif application which are quite
vulnerable to this bug (as Motif is quite buggy here).

I have seen that behaviour with Netscape (3.01, I think) and
Staroffice (both statically linked with Motif), but unreproducable.
Netscape 4.03 even crashed my X completely (quitting it) one times.

Torsten

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Re: scroll-back buffer

1997-10-16 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
Pete Harlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > How can I clear the scroll-back buffer when a use logs out (other than
> > changing tty's)?
> 
> Echo four thousand spaces from .bash_logout?

Another way:

runvc false

where runvc is the following script:

   #!/bin/sh
   # Run something on a VC, from X, and switch back to X when done.
   # GPL Joey Hess, Thu, 10 Jul 1997 23:27:08 -0400
   exec open -s -- sh -c "$* ; chvt `getvc`"

and getvc is compiled from the following source

   /* getvc.c
* Prints the number of the current VC to stdout. Most of this code
* was ripped from the open program, and this code is GPL'd
*
* Joey Hess, Fri Apr  4 14:58:50 EST 1997
*/
   
   #include 
   #include 
   
   main () {
 int fd = 0;
 struct vt_stat vt;
   
 if ((fd = open("/dev/console",O_WRONLY,0)) < 0) {
   perror("Failed to open /dev/console\n");
   return(2);
 }
 if (ioctl(fd, VT_GETSTATE, &vt) < 0) {
   perror("can't get VTstate\n");
   close(fd);
   return(4);
 }
 printf("%d\n",vt.v_active);
   }
   
   /* End of getvc.c */

This method automates the switching of VC and can be run from .logout
(if you run a csh).

I use this script for 'runvc mc' from inside X.

Torsten

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Re: A quickie on telnet

1997-10-16 Thread ioannis

   I am the author of "pass", which may well suit your needs.  This
software will be uploaded to sunsite a few weeks later; by then, the 
quatity of of documentation should improve beyond the draft stage.  Right 
now, I am willing to email you a copy in .tgz  format, or, if you 
prefer, a week later, in an un-official .deb package.



Title: pass
Version:   0.1
Entered-date:  13 October, 1997
Description:   pass(1) mimics the behavior of rsh . All commands
   are executed through telnetd at target hosts that run on
   unix; thus, no special servers are needed at the remote
   location.
   .
   Standard input to pass is piped to the remote program and
   the exit status, stdout, and stderr match those of
   the remotely executed program. Because the login procedure is
   transparent to the user, pass(1) is ideal for scripts
   that need to excecute commands on remote machines.
   .
Keywords:  telnet, pipes, scripts, remote, commands
Author:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ioannis Tambouras)
Maintained-by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ioannis Tambouras)
Primary-site:  sunsite.unc.edu /pub/Linux/system/network/misc
   997  pass.lsm
   22 M pass-0.1.tgz
Alternate-site: None
Original-site:  None
Platforms:  g++ (or equivalent) for code compilation.
Copying-policy: GPL





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linuxthreads problems

1997-10-16 Thread Vitaly Belostotsky
Hi All!

I'm trying to install debian/hamm and work with threads.
First of all I've discovered that debian python_1.4.0-4 is compiled w/o
threads, so I tried to rebuild it with. This had partial success
(before hamm all my attempts were in vain: I was permanently getting
SIGUSR1). Investigating the only problem found yet (coredumps
during thread or program exit) I've discoveried that python
with pthreads uses exit() rather than pthread_join(). Is it ok?

After that I've noticed that libc6-dev_2.0.5c-0.1 conflicts with
libpthread0-dev_0.6-1 and what's more, glibc includes old
version of LinuxThreads (0.5). Could please somebody explain me
the situation?

Trying to run examples from LinuxThreads I found a bug concerning
ex4.c: glibc's version of LinuxThreads multiply
(PTHREAD_DESTRUCTOR_ITERATIONS=4 times) applies 
pthread_key_create()'s destructor to thread-specific data
which causes multiple free() of pointer and can be fixed by
making pointer NULL after free(). Native LinuxThreads don't
iterate here and behave well. The question is: is it intended
behaviour? If not I'm slightly disappointed to whom I should send
bug report: Xavier Leroy, Ulrich Drepper or Guy Maor?

Thank you for your attention and excuse me for my English.

Vitaly Belostotsky.


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Re: mutt 0.84-0 [PGP-capable??]

1997-10-16 Thread jdassen
On Thu, Oct 16, 1997 at 11:39:17AM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote:
> Does this mutt-84-package support PGP?

As of 0.68-1, mutt was moved from non-US to main following a policy decision
that hooks to crypto don't prevent a package to go into the main
distribution. The mutt package is the normal, non-castrated version with
hooks to PGP.

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Re: NFS as root

1997-10-16 Thread joost witteveen
> On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, joost witteveen wrote:
> 
> > Note, that for hamm, the "not-perfectness" is somewhat extreme: it
> > doesn't work at all, however hard you try.
> 
> Can you explain why it doesn't work? 

cause I'm an incompetent, lazy and useless maintainer, that's why.

Or, put it differently, because the /tftpboot/$IP/lib directories
are filled with libc5 versions of the libraries only, not the libc6 
versions. And, most networking utilities use libc6 now, well, things
fail. I really have to upgrade the package.

> I think I haven't used my diskless
> computer since I upgraded the nfsroot package to the current hamm version.



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ghostview

1997-10-16 Thread Wiria Amadja Kusuma
Hi all, I got problem viewing files with ps extention, I had tried gs and
ghostview, no luck with both, yield me this error message in a pop up
windows:

Error: /undefined Aladin Ghostscript: unrecoverable error, exit code 1 in
currentdistillerparams.
Operand Stack:

Execution Stack:
%interp_exit  --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- false

Dictionary
stack: --dict:600/631-- --dict:0/20-- --dict:70/200-- --dict:105/400

Current allocation mode is local

Current file position is 8348

can somebody please help me out, I am desperate

thanks
kusuma


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Re: ghostview

1997-10-16 Thread joost witteveen
> Error: /undefined Aladin Ghostscript: unrecoverable error, exit code 1 in
> currentdistillerparams.
> Operand Stack:
> 

Strage. Are you sure your ".ps" file is postscript? Looks like it
isn't.

> can somebody please help me out, I am desperate

I don't think anybody will be able to give you any advice unless you
give us eighter the postscript file, or at least in what way you created
it. I think the'res something wrong with the postscript file.

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Re: ghostview

1997-10-16 Thread Matthew Tebbens

GV works great, try that.
http://wwwthep.physik.uni-mainz.de/~plass/gv/


On Fri, 17 Oct 1997, Wiria Amadja Kusuma wrote:

> Hi all, I got problem viewing files with ps extention, I had tried gs and
> ghostview, no luck with both, yield me this error message in a pop up
> windows:
> 
> Error: /undefined Aladin Ghostscript: unrecoverable error, exit code 1 in
> currentdistillerparams.
> Operand Stack:
> 
> Execution Stack:
> %interp_exit  --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- false
> 
> Dictionary
> stack: --dict:600/631-- --dict:0/20-- --dict:70/200-- --dict:105/400
> 
> Current allocation mode is local
> 
> Current file position is 8348
> 
> can somebody please help me out, I am desperate
> 
> thanks
> kusuma
> 
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Re: nslookup failure due to "Connection refused"

1997-10-16 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
On Wed, 15 Oct 1997, Susan G. Kleinmann wrote:

> Using the latest versions of libc6, netbase and netstd 2.17-1,
> and dnsutils 8.1.1-2, I can't seem to get nslookup working.
> The error message is 
>*** Can't find server name for address 127.0.0.1: Server failed

I've been using this set of packages with nslookup without problems.
My guess is that your DNS configuration is incorrect.  Have you
checked:

  /etc/host.conf
  /etc/resolv.conf

and your various named configuration files?

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ppp

1997-10-16 Thread nels0988
It's me again.

OK.  Now and again, when I try to go online via pon (ppp), the
modem hangs up before I'm connected but pppd just sits there and never
goes away.  Even as root, I'm unable to kill it with any signals, but
going to single user mode does it.  What is wrong and why can't I kill the
process?  Going back into mode 2, I can go online flawlessly.
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Re: ghostview

1997-10-16 Thread joost witteveen
> 
> GV works great, try that.
> http://wwwthep.physik.uni-mainz.de/~plass/gv/

First: gv is a debian package, no need to build it yourselve.
Second: gv is only a (very nice indeed) wrapper around gs. If gs cannot
understand the file, the gv will also fail, as gv just calls gs.

So, although I advice everyone to use gv instead of plain
gs or ghostview for viewing postscript files, it cannot be the solution
to this guys problems.


> > Hi all, I got problem viewing files with ps extention, I had tried gs and
> > ghostview, no luck with both, yield me this error message in a pop up
> > windows:
> > 
> > Error: /undefined Aladin Ghostscript: unrecoverable error, exit code 1 in
> > currentdistillerparams.
> > Operand Stack:
> > 
> > Execution Stack:
> > %interp_exit  --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- false
> > 
> > Dictionary
> > stack: --dict:600/631-- --dict:0/20-- --dict:70/200-- --dict:105/400
> > 
> > Current allocation mode is local
> > 
> > Current file position is 8348
> > 
> > can somebody please help me out, I am desperate


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permission probs at os.inf.tu-dresden.de

1997-10-16 Thread Camm Maguire

Greetings!  I think some of the permissions need to be reset at this
mirror site.  Here's my mirror output:

Mirrored DebianNonUS (os.inf.tu-dresden.de:/pub/debian-non-US/stable/ -> 
/mnt/debian/local/) Mirror of parts of ftp.debian.org/pub/debian-non-US @ Wed 
Oct 15 21:21:06 EDT 1997
Failed to get binary-i386/sambades_1.9.7p2-1.deb: 550 
binary-i386/sambades_1.9.7p2-1.deb: Permission denied.
Failed to get source/sambades_1.9.17p2-1.diff.gz: 550 
source/sambades_1.9.17p2-1.diff.gz: Permission denied.
Failed to get source/sambades_1.9.17p2.orig.tar.gz: 550 
source/sambades_1.9.17p2.orig.tar.gz: Permission denied.
Failed to get source/sambades_1.9.17p2-1.dsc: 550 
source/sambades_1.9.17p2-1.dsc: Permission denied.
unlink /mnt/debian/local//.mirror

Take care, and thanks for all the great work!

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Re: ppp

1997-10-16 Thread Brandon Mitchell
Last resort: killall -9 pppd

On Thu, 16 Oct 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> It's me again.
> 
> OK.  Now and again, when I try to go online via pon (ppp), the
> modem hangs up before I'm connected but pppd just sits there and never
> goes away.  Even as root, I'm unable to kill it with any signals, but
> going to single user mode does it.  What is wrong and why can't I kill the
> process?  Going back into mode 2, I can go online flawlessly.

-
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PGP: finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED]  does infinite loops in 5 seconds"
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Re: Shared Libraries Howto?

1997-10-16 Thread ioannis

> to make this work? Is there a howto? Any info pages I should read?
 

  Yes! It may be helpful to look at the info pages that come
  with the libtool package. 



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Help with xserver

1997-10-16 Thread Daniel J. Mashao
I was once again tempted to upgrade my xserver and all hell broke loose.
Now I cannot get into X any more.
The server fails with the message:
__
Fatal server error:
could not open default font 'fixed'
--

I am hoping that someone might speedily help me. This is a production
machine and I need to run in X.
I did not provide all other details because i think someone migh easily
recognize the error message.

//
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Re: Help with xserver

1997-10-16 Thread I Brake for Moths
I had this problem recently, and I believe that the solution may be to 
reinstall the X fonts.  The new xserver expects to find gzipped fonts, 
and it is probably finding .Z files instead.  Just download the various 
xfnt*.deb packages, install them, and you'll be back in business.

Rikki Hall

On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, Daniel J. Mashao wrote:

> I was once again tempted to upgrade my xserver and all hell broke loose.
> Now I cannot get into X any more.
> The server fails with the message:
> __
> Fatal server error:
> could not open default font 'fixed'
> --
> 
> I am hoping that someone might speedily help me. This is a production
> machine and I need to run in X.
> I did not provide all other details because i think someone migh easily
> recognize the error message.
> 
> //
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Re: ghostview

1997-10-16 Thread jdassen
On Thu, Oct 16, 1997 at 02:58:41PM +0200, joost witteveen wrote:
> > Error: /undefined Aladin Ghostscript: unrecoverable error, exit code 1 in
> > currentdistillerparams.
> > Operand Stack:
> 
> Strage. Are you sure your ".ps" file is postscript? Looks like it isn't.

I've seen this with ps files produced by FrameMaker and aladdin ghostscript
3.33; when I used 5.xx there were no problems. "currentdistillerparams" has
something to do with PDF generation; ghostscript's PDF support is fairly
recent (4.x IIRC).

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Re: Help with xserver

1997-10-16 Thread Kevin F. Havener
Or the reverse may be occuring if you are using a commercial X server 
like AcceleratedX.  It expects to find *.Z fonts, not *.gz fonts.  So 
if you did install new fonts when you upgraded you may hose up 
your commercial X server.

 kevni
> Date:  Thu, 16 Oct 1997 09:55:05 -0400 (EDT)
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> To:"Daniel J. Mashao" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc:debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:   Re: Help with xserver

> I had this problem recently, and I believe that the solution may be to 
> reinstall the X fonts.  The new xserver expects to find gzipped fonts, 
> and it is probably finding .Z files instead.  Just download the various 
> xfnt*.deb packages, install them, and you'll be back in business.
> 
> Rikki Hall
> 
> On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, Daniel J. Mashao wrote:
> 
> > I was once again tempted to upgrade my xserver and all hell broke loose.
> > Now I cannot get into X any more.
> > The server fails with the message:
> > __
> > Fatal server error:
> > could not open default font 'fixed'
> > --
> > 
> > I am hoping that someone might speedily help me. This is a production
> > machine and I need to run in X.
> > I did not provide all other details because i think someone migh easily
> > recognize the error message.
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majordomo list server

1997-10-16 Thread Aaron Walker
Has anyone successfully setup majordomo to have a list server?  If so, how do 
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Re: ghostview

1997-10-16 Thread Wiria Amadja Kusuma
this is one of the files I had tried, see the attachment, but I can view
pics well in the /ghostview/examples.

>Strage. Are you sure your ".ps" file is postscript? Looks like it
>isn't.
>
>> can somebody please help me out, I am desperate
>
>I don't think anybody will be able to give you any advice unless you
>give us eighter the postscript file, or at least in what way you created
>it. I think the'res something wrong with the postscript file.
>


thanks
kusuma



Gs_btokn.ps
Description: PostScript document


Compiling the Kernel

1997-10-16 Thread Steve Koop
Hi There!

I'm compiling the kernel for the first time a having some problems,
Avery thing up to the " make zImage ", it works to the end and then has some error msg's:

the last few lines are:

as86 -0 -a -o bootsect.o bootsec.s
Make[1]: as86: Command not found
Make[1]: *** [bootsec.o] Error127
Make[1]: Leaving directory /usr/src/linux/i386/boot 
Make[1]: *** [zImage] Error 2

Then stops.

All rest of the before these step worked fine.

I know that it trying to find the file or script for bootsec.o, but it is not in the /usr/src/linux/i386/boot dir, the bootsec.s is though.


Do you know where to find this file?





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Anyone getting jdk1.1 working?

1997-10-16 Thread David Morris

Yesterday I downloaded the jdk1.1 packages to a hamm machine. I also
recompiled my kernel for java binary support. Then I went to run some of
the demo programs using appletviewer and java spins into some sort of
endless loop. I can watch it on top eat up all the spare CPU cycles and
just grow in memory usage. I let it run for 15 minutes before finally
killing it.

I'm sure I'm missing something in setting things up, but the settings I
can see in the various README files I've checked. But still nothing.

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Re: Compiling the Kernel

1997-10-16 Thread Alex Yukhimets
> I'm compiling the kernel for the first time a having some problems,
> 
> Avery thing up to the " make zImage ", it works to the end and then has 
> some error msg's:
> 
> the last few lines are:
> 
> as86 -0 -a -o bootsect.o bootsec.s
> Make[1]: as86: Command not found
> Make[1]: *** [bootsec.o] Error127
> Make[1]: Leaving directory /usr/src/linux/i386/boot 
> Make[1]: *** [zImage] Error 2
> 
> Then stops.
> 
> All rest of the before these step worked fine.
> 
> I know that it trying to find the file or script for bootsec.o, but it is 
> not in the /usr/src/linux/i386/boot dir, the bootsec.s is though.

You guess is wrong. It cannot find as86 program which will _produce_ .o
file. To have this program on your system you would have to install
"bin86" package from devel.

Alex Y.

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Orientation documentation please (was: Re: Changing mouse drivers)

1997-10-16 Thread me

(Hoping I have the attributions correct:)


> On Tue, 14 Oct 1997, Daniel Martin wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 14 Oct 1997, Richard A. Guay wrote:
> > 
> > > I now want to change to using a serial mouse.  What would be the
> > > steps (I do not want to reload the OS.)?
> > 
> > Reload the OS?  That's windows-world thinking.  First, if you installed
> > the gpm package, you'll need to run 'gpmconfig' as root, and tell gpm
> > about your mouse.

Those who live in glass houses...

No, that's not windows-world thinking.  It's the kind of thinking you get 
when the operating system doesn't come with good installation/configuration
_documentation_.

Since users set up the system by running installation scripts, that's the 
only way new users know that the system can be configured.  

If the system came with better installation and configuration documentation
users would have documentation in which to look up things like changing mice, 
etc.

I thinking of an overview of the things to do and of how the system-manage-
ment utilities fit together (as opposed to documentation of individual 
utitilies, which is probably close to sufficient).

Why doesn't Debian come with a document that points to the system-wide
"Debianizations" of the system (e.g., the xxxconfig commands (which _are_
quite convenient once you know they exist)), and why doesn't the Debian
installation document point to that orientation document?

(Consider new users:  They follow the instructions for loading Debian
on the system.  Those instructions (last I saw), dumped the user into
dselect, without given an orientation of what still needs to be configured,
to Debian-specific ways of doing things, etc.)


(I know there are some LDP documents out there.  However, they don't cover
the Debianized aspects of a Debian distribution.)

(Also, I know that many packages' README files are in /usr/doc/xxx, but they 
don't apply when Debian has changed the default configuration of the package,
and the changes from that default are not all documented in README-Debian
files for the packages.)

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Re: ghostview

1997-10-16 Thread Wiria Amadja Kusuma

>But why do you want to view this file? As far as I know, this
>is not a file inteneded for viewign (it's from /usr/lib/ghostview/*/).
>
>Actually, I don't know what this file exactly does.
>Do you have any special reason for wanting to "view" this
>file?
>
that is not the file I intended to view, but that is file that give me the
same error message, what I want is about 2.5 megs so it is impossible for me
to attach.., :-)
Actually I had d/l a system administrator book from The Ohio State
University, and I am sure that it is in postscript format, that is what I
intended to view, may be I should had upgrade to the 5.xx

thanks
kusuma


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Re: NFS as root

1997-10-16 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, joost witteveen wrote:

> > Can you explain why it doesn't work? 
> 
> cause I'm an incompetent, lazy and useless maintainer, that's why.
> 
> Or, put it differently, because the /tftpboot/$IP/lib directories
> are filled with libc5 versions of the libraries only, not the libc6 
> versions. And, most networking utilities use libc6 now, well, things
> fail. I really have to upgrade the package.

Ah, now I know why I didn't notice it didn't work. I changed the config
files to include libc6 a long time ago on my own system. I didn't really
think of it as "hey, this package is broken". I just changed it so that it
worked.

BTW, I don't like the approach where /var and /tmp on the clients are
nfs mounts of server:/var and server:/tmp respectively. Something like
server:/var/$IP and server:/tmp/$IP would be more appropriate I guess, but
I fear it doesn't work very well with /tmp being completely emptied at
boot time.

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[Q] HP LaserJet 6MP

1997-10-16 Thread Pedro Quaresma de Almeida
Hi

I want to set EconoMode (on and off) in a HP LaserJet 6MP from within
Linux. It is possible?

I have tried to set the EconoMode using dosemu but the dos program RCP
(Remote Control Panel) does not work under dosemu (I have not succeed
in doing it work).

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Re: ghostview

1997-10-16 Thread Thomas Baetzler
Wiria Amadja Kusuma wrote:
:Actually I had d/l a system administrator book from The Ohio State
:University, and I am sure that it is in postscript format, that is what I
:intended to view, may be I should had upgrade to the 5.xx

Are you sure it's PostScript and not PDF? The URL where you got it from
would be most helpful.

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majordomo list server

1997-10-16 Thread Pedro Quaresma de Almeida

>Aaron Walker

>Has anyone successfully setup majordomo to have a list server?  If
>so, how do you set it up once you've installed the majordomo package?
>Thanks for your time,


I have installed majordomo and (following the NEWLISTS doc) I have
ALMOST setup a list in majordomo.

The list is set - the "info " message give the correct
output

- the "subscribe " works fine!

But when I try to send a messagem to the list ... :( ;(

It seems that the syntax ":include:" in

test-list: :include:/var/lib/majordomo/lists/test

it is not the correct one!? 


Any help it is (very) welcome.

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Q: gcc & cpp

1997-10-16 Thread Dean C. Sullinger
In the first place, thank you everyone for all
the help.  Sorry if I ask so many questions.

I have written a basic C program just to try
out gcc, the source code is:

#include 

main()
{
printf("This is a test\n");
}

When I compiled it I ran:

gcc test.c -o test

When I executed the application, it ran
yet I did not get the "This is a test"
message to show up on my screen. I have
read the doc's on gcc.  Am I missing
something?  I even tried using cpp and
I get the same results.

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Q: How to add to X Mngr popup menu

1997-10-16 Thread Dean C. Sullinger
The subject line says it all. I am using
Afterstep as my WinMngr.  I would like to
add menu items both to the menu that pops
up when you left mouse click on the
background and to the Afterstep menu.

There must be a doc for this someplace, yet
there are so many I am probably stumbling
over it and missing it.

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Re: Compiling the Kernel

1997-10-16 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,
From the kernel-package README file:
--
INSTALLATION NOTES:

Before you go any further, please allow me to point out that you need to
have a few other packages installed before you can compile your own kernels
(it is difficult to compile anything without a compiler ;-). 

Firstly, you will need gcc, the libc development package (libc5-dev at
the time of writing), and, on Intel platforms, bin86. [If you use the
menuconfig target of make, you will need ncursesX.X-dev, and make xconfig
also requires tkX.X-dev, and other packages these depend on]

The packages suggested are:
devel:gcc, libc5-dev, binutils, make, and, for intel x86 platforms,
  bin86 (non-Intel platforms don't need this).
interpreters: gawk.
base: gzip, shellutils, and grep.

Of course, pretty gui front ends to kernel configuration require more
packages, but they are not strictly essential (though quite nice really). 

Oh, and of course, make-kpkg is part of kernel-package, usually found
in section misc.


 For the Brave and the impatient:
1% cd 
2% make config   # or make menuconfig or make xconfig and configure
3% make-kpkg clean
4% make-kpkg -r=custom.1.0 kernel_image
5% dpkg -i ../kernel-image-X.XXX_1.0_.deb
6% shutdown -r now # If and only if LILO worked or you have a means of
   # booting the new kernel. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!
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Re: Q: gcc & cpp

1997-10-16 Thread Stephen Zander
"Dean C. Sullinger" wrote:
> When I executed the application, it ran
> yet I did not get the "This is a test"
> message to show up on my screen. I have
> read the doc's on gcc.  Am I missing
> something?  I even tried using cpp and
> I get the same results.

I'm willing to bet you ran it as

prompt> test

Try running it as

prompt> ./test

teest is a shell built-in under bash, so the shell never even looks for an 
executable with that name.  Renaming test would also work.


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Re: Q: gcc & cpp

1997-10-16 Thread Andy Dougherty
On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, Dean C. Sullinger wrote:

> In the first place, thank you everyone for all
> the help.  Sorry if I ask so many questions.
> 
> I have written a basic C program just to try
> out gcc, the source code is:
> 
> #include 
> 
> main()
> {
>   printf("This is a test\n");
> }
> 
> When I compiled it I ran:
> 
> gcc test.c -o test
> 
> When I executed the application, it ran
> yet I did not get the "This is a test"
> message to show up on my screen. I have
> read the doc's on gcc.  Am I missing
> something?  I even tried using cpp and
> I get the same results.

You probably got the wrong "test" program.  There's one built into bash
and there's also an (equivalent) one in in /usr/bin/test.
You need to type

./test

to be sure to run the "test" program in your current directory.

You can use bash's  "type" command to see what's happening:

$ type test
test is a shell builtin

Hope this helps,

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Re: Anyone getting jdk1.1 working?

1997-10-16 Thread Stephen Zander
"David Morris" wrote:
> I'm sure I'm missing something in setting things up, but the settings I
> can see in the various README files I've checked. But still nothing.

Which applets specifically?  I have jdk1.1.3 (from hamm) & it works just fine.  
However, I'm aware that the kind soul who ported jdk to linux has seen 
problemms with AWT objects not releasing memory (am going to help investigate 
the problem just as soon as SUN approve my licence).


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RealAudio 5.0b1: NO sound under linux 2.x

1997-10-16 Thread Oz Dror
I have just installed the new version of RealAudio, but there is no sound.

I get the following message in /usr/adm/messages:

Oct 16 09:25:32 OZ kernel: Sound error: Couldn't allocate DMA buffer 

sound does work for me in RealAudio 3.0 and other application.

Any ideas?

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Re: Bug#9766: magicfilter and (pdf => postscript) problems

1997-10-16 Thread Marco Pistore
On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, J.Sigbrandt wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> Need to get pdf file printing working using magicfilter.
> The printer is a LaserJet 4P (no postscript module)
[SKIP]
> 
> 
> use gs to print .pdf
> 
[SKIP]

Hi, 

first of all, thank you very much for your experiments!

Some problems with pdf files have been solved in the new version of
gs-aladdin (5.03).

I am trying to upload a libc5 version of this package since yesterday,
but there are problems with master.debian.org (the libc6 version
has been uploaded some weeks ago). 

If you want, you can download the package from
  http://www.di.unipi.it/~pistore/gs-aladdin_5.03-0.99_i386.deb

I'd be very grateful if you could test the new package with your file
and printer.

Thank you,

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Re: man page for nsswitch.conf

1997-10-16 Thread Lukas Eppler
On 14 Oct 1997, Dale Martin wrote:

> Hello.  As I have mentioned on this list several times, I have
> upgraded my machine to a fair amount of libc6 stuff.  In general, it
> seems to be working pretty well, but a lot of the NIS stuff is messed
> up.

I just wanted to remind you that libc6 is unstable and in development. So
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Re: Login's source absent

1997-10-16 Thread Lukas Eppler
On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I wanted to see the source of a program login, and modify the greeting,
> and responses, however, I didn't find it under
> bo/source/base/[login]
> Is there any reason for it's absence?
> And where can I find the source for it?

You don't need the source to modify the greeting. It's in /etc/issue for
the local logins and /etc/issue.net for the others. You can use ansi
sequences for it (colors and everything). Try fiddling around with setterm
--color . When you're happy you can use
 (setterm ; echo...; setterm) > /etc/issue
to write a happy colorful greeting.
Probably cp /etc/issue /etc/issue.old is a good Idea.
After logging in, login displays /etc/motd. Can be colorful too, I think.

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Re: Problems

1997-10-16 Thread Lukas Eppler
On Sat, 11 Oct 1997, Julien Pham wrote:

> First : my xterm has no color. Or, no, it has colors (when I do a ls
> --color in it, it works) but when I launch a text based appli (such as
> deselect for example)  in it, it in in B & W... Why ?

I hassled a lot with this. I have no black-and-white-xterms, never seen.
So I copied /etc/termcap/x/xterm-color over /etc/termcap/x/xterm after
having made a backup of the black-and-white xterm description. No problems
encountered until now. So, every normal xterm is known to be able to
handle colors.

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Re: Anyone getting jdk1.1 working?

1997-10-16 Thread Lawrence
make sure you are in 256 colour mode, at first.

David Morris wrote:
> 
> Yesterday I downloaded the jdk1.1 packages to a hamm machine. I also
> recompiled my kernel for java binary support. Then I went to run some of
> the demo programs using appletviewer and java spins into some sort of
> endless loop. I can watch it on top eat up all the spare CPU cycles and
> just grow in memory usage. I let it run for 15 minutes before finally
> killing it.
> 
> I'm sure I'm missing something in setting things up, but the settings I
> can see in the various README files I've checked. But still nothing.
> 
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Re: Strange smail core file..

1997-10-16 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Wed, Oct 15, 1997 at 04:26:41PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>   Anyone know what this is or means?  Has my copy of smail been
> playning nethack/rogue without me knowing?

This is the so-called rogue-mode (see man page).

Try 'smail -bR' (without the quotes of course) to see it life.

Marcus

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Re: several problems with a new installation (hey, I'm learning)

1997-10-16 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Wed, Oct 15, 1997 at 03:04:47PM -0500, Richard A. Guay wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a list of problems that I need help with:

> 2)  I can not get the sound to work!  If I execute "cat bong.au >/dev/audio" 
> I g
> et "zsh: no such device: /dev/audio" (I did the cat at root level, so it is 
> not 
> a permissions conflict).  How do I check for the drivers for the audio board? 
>  I
> t is IBM MWave sound card.

Did you recompiled the kernel, enabling sound support ? (It is not done by
default, the standard kernel is big enough, supporting all possible hard
discs etc). Install the kernel-sources, kernel-package and other packages
mentioned in the README filel from kernel-packages, than follow the
documentation to rebuild the kernel. See the Sound-HOWTO for more details
about your sound card.

> 3)  How do I check the number of bit planes being used by the xserver?  I 
> seem t
> o still run out of colors with a S3-Virge board with 2 Megs of RAM!  How do 
> you 
> specify the resolution and number of bit planes to come up in with startx?

Look at the error output, if you use startx. If you use xdm, do:

# cat /var/log/xdm-errors
[...]
(--) S3: Using Trio32/64 programmable clock (MCLK 59.957 MHz)
(--) S3: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 80.000 MHz
(**) S3: Mode "1024x768": mode clock =  75.000
(**) S3: Mode "800x600": mode clock =  50.000
(**) S3: Using 16 bpp.  Color weight: 565
(--) S3: Virtual resolution set to 1024x768
(--) S3: Local bus LAW is 0xFB00
(--) S3: Using a banksize of 2048k, line width of 1024
(--) S3: Using a single 64x64 area at (960,769) for expanding pixmaps
(--) S3: Using 16 planes of 960x255 at (0,769) aligned 8 as font cache

Notice the 16 planes = 16 bit = 16 bpp

The resolution is set in the file /etc/X11/XF86Config, the bpp's with

startx -- -bpp 16

IIRC. There are other ways, please look in the mailing archive at
www.debian.org for more of them. (xdm is set in /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers:

:0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -bpp 16

for example.

> 4)  Where can I look to find some good background pictures in xpm format?

What do you like? Search with your favourite web engine (www.yahoo.com for
example). If the pronounciation is on xpm format, then please notice, that
you can convert any format in xpm with many tools (xv, netpbm, ...).

But are you sure you need xpm format?

This depends on your window manager and the packages installed...

Marcus

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Re: problem with leafnode and gnus

1997-10-16 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Tue, Oct 14, 1997 at 11:30:14PM +, Adrian Bridgett wrote:
> On Oct 13, Frank Barknecht wrote
> > Gustaf Erikson hat gesagt: // Gustaf Erikson wrote:
> 
> > > However, after subscribing to c.o.l.misc and c.o.l.advocacy with gnus,
> > > I run fetch. It takes a long time. I check /var/spool/news, and see
> > > lots of directories for alt, gnu, soc, and uk. 
> > 
> > That's "a feature", I think. A lot of messages get crosspostet to groups
> > you don't have subscribed and you are not interested in. I even have 
> > /var/spool/news/microsoft/...  :(
> 
> I started to use leafnode, but thought that this was ugly and stopped. I
> hoped that either I was doing something wrong or leafnode would be fixed. 

leafnode is a program, you don't need care about - just install it and
that's it (ok, change one or two lines in config file).

But you have to install inews, too. Otherwise you cannot post.

> I now use inn and newsx (I like newsx, but inn was a pain - maybe now I
> have a better idea things won't be so bad). I have a page at
> http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/wyvern/isp which should help if you are
> feeling lucky :-)

For one or a few users, inn is overkill, and leafnode one way to go.

Marcus

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Re: ghostview

1997-10-16 Thread Wiria Amadja Kusuma

>Are you sure it's PostScript and not PDF? The URL where you got it from
>would be most helpful.


I had d/l the latest 5.03 from http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html  ,
but I have not tried it out, busy doing my accounting, I will try it again
later.
About the sysadm_book.ps, I d/l from
ftp://www-wks.acs.ohio-state.edu/sysadm_course/sysadm_book.ps , incase
somebody interested in sysadmin course, you may find some info from

http://www-wks.acs.ohio-state.edu/sysadm_course/sysadm.html

see ya
kusuma


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sound programs part 2

1997-10-16 Thread Shaleh
I now have bplay and timidity installed.  Thanks for the help.  When I
run bplay as a user I get the following: 
bplay: setpriority: Permission denied: continuing anyway
bplay: shmctl: Operation not permitted: continuing with unlocked buffers

it still plays though.  Does not happen as root.


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Re: ghostview

1997-10-16 Thread Wiria Amadja Kusuma
you are right Lukas, I had included the url in my previous post, thanks

kusuma

>Oops, This is a bit too big for an attachment, in my opinion.
>
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Re: RealAudio 5.0b1: NO sound under linux 2.x

1997-10-16 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, Oz Dror wrote:

> I have just installed the new version of RealAudio, but there is no sound.
> 
> I get the following message in /usr/adm/messages:
> 
> Oct 16 09:25:32 OZ kernel: Sound error: Couldn't allocate DMA buffer 
> 
> sound does work for me in RealAudio 3.0 and other application.
> 
> Any ideas?

No, but it does work for me (except as a netscape plugin, but that's a
bash problem).



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fetchmail & multiple hostname (was laptop in different places)

1997-10-16 Thread Obi
I traced (I think!) down what was (actually is) my problem. The responsible is 
(my poor administration :-)) and fetchmai trying to forward the fetched mail 
to port 25 on *two* hosts: host.domainA and localhost. Of course, since I'm 
not on domain_A, this is a problem because no hosts is going to answer (thanks 
god!): so fetchmail timeout and stop to fetch the mail ...

I tried with the smtphost option in the fetchmailrc, but after the list I'm 
giving fetchmail always add the 2 hosts ... Now the workaround is to add a 
dummy interface with the IP address of the host.domainA, but I'd like to 
instruct fetchmail to do the right thing: that is forward the mail just to 
localhost!! Any idea on how to do that?

graziano


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Re: Compiling the Kernel

1997-10-16 Thread Oliver Elphick
Steve Koop wrote:
  >I'm compiling the kernel for the first time a having some problems,
  >
  >Avery thing up to the " make zImage ", it works to the end and then has some
  > error msg's:
  >
  >
  >the last few lines are:
  >
  >
  >as86 -0 -a -o bootsect.o bootsec.s
  >
  >Make[1]: as86: Command not found

bootsec.s is assembly code, but you don't have the assembler (as86) available.

as86 is in the package bin86.

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Re: several problems with a new installation (hey, I'm learning)

1997-10-16 Thread Richard A. Guay

On 16-Oct-97 Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 15, 1997 at 03:04:47PM -0500, Richard A. Guay wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have a list of problems that I need help with:
> 
>> 2)  I can not get the sound to work!  If I execute "cat bong.au >/dev/audio"
>> I g
>> et "zsh: no such device: /dev/audio" (I did the cat at root level, so it is
>> not 
>> a permissions conflict).  How do I check for the drivers for the audio
>> board?  I
>> t is IBM MWave sound card.
> 
> Did you recompiled the kernel, enabling sound support ? (It is not done by
> default, the standard kernel is big enough, supporting all possible hard
> discs etc). Install the kernel-sources, kernel-package and other packages
> mentioned in the README filel from kernel-packages, than follow the
> documentation to rebuild the kernel. See the Sound-HOWTO for more details
> about your sound card.

Okay, I will look into that.  Where is the Sound-HOWTO?  Where are all of the ho
w to's?  Sorry for dumb questions.

> 
>> 3)  How do I check the number of bit planes being used by the xserver?  I
>> seem t
>> o still run out of colors with a S3-Virge board with 2 Megs of RAM!  How do
>> you 
>> specify the resolution and number of bit planes to come up in with startx?
> 
> Look at the error output, if you use startx. If you use xdm, do:
> 
># cat /var/log/xdm-errors
> [...]
> (--) S3: Using Trio32/64 programmable clock (MCLK 59.957 MHz)
> (--) S3: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 80.000 MHz
> (**) S3: Mode "1024x768": mode clock =  75.000
> (**) S3: Mode "800x600": mode clock =  50.000
> (**) S3: Using 16 bpp.  Color weight: 565
> (--) S3: Virtual resolution set to 1024x768
> (--) S3: Local bus LAW is 0xFB00
> (--) S3: Using a banksize of 2048k, line width of 1024
> (--) S3: Using a single 64x64 area at (960,769) for expanding pixmaps
> (--) S3: Using 16 planes of 960x255 at (0,769) aligned 8 as font cache
> 
> Notice the 16 planes = 16 bit = 16 bpp
> 
> The resolution is set in the file /etc/X11/XF86Config, the bpp's with
> 
> startx -- -bpp 16
> 
> IIRC. There are other ways, please look in the mailing archive at
> www.debian.org for more of them. (xdm is set in /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers:
> 
>:0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -bpp 16
> 
> for example.

When I run "startx" the information is removed by the switch to graphics mode to
o fast for me to see.  What is the easiest way of capturing the output?  I can n
ot get xdm to work.  It launches okay, and sits in memory, but it never puts up 
a login.  Since I can just use startx, I have not looked into why it does not wo
rk.

> 
>> 4)  Where can I look to find some good background pictures in xpm format?
> 
> What do you like? Search with your favourite web engine (www.yahoo.com for
> example). If the pronounciation is on xpm format, then please notice, that
> you can convert any format in xpm with many tools (xv, netpbm, ...).
> 
> But are you sure you need xpm format?
> 
> This depends on your window manager and the packages installed...
> 

I think that I have this one under control.  I use Fvwm2 and the xpmroot command
 to set a background.  I just compiled ImageMagix on my system that will transla
te most formats into xpm.  Now for the hunt for a good picture (I like outdoors 
pictures or space pictures).


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Netscape's Stale Lock Files -- Automatic Removal

1997-10-16 Thread Paul Serice
I grew weary of starting Netscape after it crashed only to get the   
message about there being a stale lock file.  So I added this small  
script to my Netscape wrapper.  It seems to work.  Is there a better
way of doing this?

-BEGIN--
for lockfile in `find $HOME/.netscape -name lock`
do
  lockpid=`ls -l $lockfile | sed 's/^.*://g' `
  (ps --pid $lockpid | grep "$lockpid.*netscape") > /dev/null 2>&1
  if [ "$?" -ne 0 ]
  then
rm $lockfile
echo "Removed stale lock $lockfile -- $lockpid."
  else
echo "Not Removing lock for $lockfile -- $lockpid."
  fi
done
END-


Thanks
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Re: Anyone getting jdk1.1 working?

1997-10-16 Thread Richard A. Guay

On 16-Oct-97 Lawrence wrote:
> make sure you are in 256 colour mode, at first.
> 

Are you saying that the jdk will not run in other graphics mode but 256 colour? 
 I sure hope that that is not the case.

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CDR drive replacement.

1997-10-16 Thread Dale Scheetz
I have used Philips CDRs exclusively and have not been satisfied. For the
usual reasons, I am replacing my current CDR and want something that will
last a while. I can get an "HP SureStore CD-Writer 6020" for a
"reasonable" price. I am curious if anyone has had any first hand
experience with this device? Is it encouraging? I would consider other
options if they fall in the catagory of "cheap" (cost effective) and
dependable, while at the same time available quickly through mail order
using a credit card.

Please reply by private e-mail. If there is lots of interest, I will post
a synopsis back to the list.

Thanks in advance,

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Re: Compiling the Kernel

1997-10-16 Thread Marcus Brinkmann

Hi!

What Manoj wants to give you a pointer to is his grandious kernel-package.

It does an excellent job at kernel-compile (reduces the possible mistakes
enormously), please give it a try and install it along with the other
packages needed.

Marcus

On Thu, Oct 16, 1997 at 11:19:29AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Hi,
>   From the kernel-package README file:
> --
[snipped]
> --
> 
>   manoj

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Re: fetchmail & multiple hostname (was laptop in different places)

1997-10-16 Thread Stephen Zander
Obi wrote:
> I tried with the smtphost option in the fetchmailrc, but after the list I'm 
> giving fetchmail always add the 2 hosts ... Now the workaround is to add a 
> dummy interface with the IP address of the host.domainA, but I'd like to 
> instruct fetchmail to do the right thing: that is forward the mail just to 
> localhost!! Any idea on how to do that?

What does the entry for your hostname in /etc/hosts point to, 127.0.0.1 or 
x.x.x.x?  I have 127.0.0.1 defined to my the address of my machine & it works 
fine.


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Re: several problems with a new installation (hey, I'm learning)

1997-10-16 Thread Will Lowe
On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, Richard A. Guay wrote:

> Okay, I will look into that.  Where is the Sound-HOWTO?  Where are all of
> the howto's? 

Try ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO

> Sorry for dumb questions.

S'Okay.  This one is a faq,  but the faq is in the same place as the
howtos,  so if you can't find the faq,   the faq is useless ...

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Re: several problems with a new installation (hey, I'm learning)

1997-10-16 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Thu, Oct 16, 1997 at 12:07:28PM -0500, Richard A. Guay wrote:
> 
> On 16-Oct-97 Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 15, 1997 at 03:04:47PM -0500, Richard A. Guay wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> I have a list of problems that I need help with:
> > 
> >> 2)  I can not get the sound to work!  If I execute "cat bong.au 
> >> >/dev/audio"
> >> I g
> >> et "zsh: no such device: /dev/audio" (I did the cat at root level, so it is
> >> not 
> >> a permissions conflict).  How do I check for the drivers for the audio
> >> board?  I
> >> t is IBM MWave sound card.
> > 
> > Did you recompiled the kernel, enabling sound support ? (It is not done by
> > default, the standard kernel is big enough, supporting all possible hard
> > discs etc). Install the kernel-sources, kernel-package and other packages
> > mentioned in the README filel from kernel-packages, than follow the
> > documentation to rebuild the kernel. See the Sound-HOWTO for more details
> > about your sound card.
> 
> Okay, I will look into that.  Where is the Sound-HOWTO?  Where are all of the 
> ho
> w to's?  Sorry for dumb questions.

look under /usr/doc/HOWTO. If there is nothing, install the doc-linux and
doc-linux-text packages. Or look at sunsite.unc.edu in the LDP hierarchy.

> >> 3)  How do I check the number of bit planes being used by the xserver?  I
> >> seem t
> >> o still run out of colors with a S3-Virge board with 2 Megs of RAM!  How do
> >> you 
> >> specify the resolution and number of bit planes to come up in with startx?
> > 
> > Look at the error output, if you use startx. If you use xdm, do:
> > 
> ># cat /var/log/xdm-errors
> > [...]
> > (--) S3: Using Trio32/64 programmable clock (MCLK 59.957 MHz)
> > (--) S3: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 80.000 MHz
> > (**) S3: Mode "1024x768": mode clock =  75.000
> > (**) S3: Mode "800x600": mode clock =  50.000
> > (**) S3: Using 16 bpp.  Color weight: 565
> > (--) S3: Virtual resolution set to 1024x768
> > (--) S3: Local bus LAW is 0xFB00
> > (--) S3: Using a banksize of 2048k, line width of 1024
> > (--) S3: Using a single 64x64 area at (960,769) for expanding pixmaps
> > (--) S3: Using 16 planes of 960x255 at (0,769) aligned 8 as font cache
> > 
> > Notice the 16 planes = 16 bit = 16 bpp
> > 
> > The resolution is set in the file /etc/X11/XF86Config, the bpp's with
> > 
> > startx -- -bpp 16
> > 
> > IIRC. There are other ways, please look in the mailing archive at
> > www.debian.org for more of them. (xdm is set in /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers:
> > 
> >:0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -bpp 16
> > 
> > for example.
> 
> When I run "startx" the information is removed by the switch to graphics mode 
> to
> o fast for me to see.  What is the easiest way of capturing the output?  I 
> can n
> ot get xdm to work.  It launches okay, and sits in memory, but it never puts 
> up 
> a login.  Since I can just use startx, I have not looked into why it does not 
> wo
> rk.

Did you try "/etc/init.d/xdm start"? This is the way to start xdm.

Look also in /etc/X11/config. My shows following:
# This file contains configuration flags for the X Window System.
# For a description of the meanings of the flags, see
# /usr/doc/X11/debian.README

run-xconsole
obey-nologin
allow-user-resources
allow-user-modmap
allow-user-xsession
allow-failsafe
start-xdm
xdm-start-server

Be sure to read the doc in /usr/doc/X11/debian.README.

> >> 4)  Where can I look to find some good background pictures in xpm format?
> > 
> > What do you like? Search with your favourite web engine (www.yahoo.com for
> > example). If the pronounciation is on xpm format, then please notice, that
> > you can convert any format in xpm with many tools (xv, netpbm, ...).
> > 
> > But are you sure you need xpm format?
> > 
> > This depends on your window manager and the packages installed...
> > 
> 
> I think that I have this one under control.  I use Fvwm2 and the xpmroot 
> command
>  to set a background.  I just compiled ImageMagix on my system that will 
> transla
> te most formats into xpm.  Now for the hunt for a good picture (I like 
> outdoors 
> pictures or space pictures).

Look. This is why I asked for your windowmanager.

If you have the standard debian conf files (means no .fvwm2rc in home
directory), you can use background.{xpm|gif|jpg|color|list} in the directory
~/.fvwm2. look at /usr/doc/fvwm2/README.sysrc for details. it will detect
the image format automagically and you can even put a list there with
filenames randomly choosen from.

Go for it... Debian!

Thank you,
Marcus

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Serial TTY's

1997-10-16 Thread Richard Kaszeta
Okay, I've got a fairly out-of-the-box Bo system, and I wanted to hook
up a dumb text terminal to it (in addition to the standard console).
I've done this before on Linux and Debian machines, no problem, but
now it's not working.

For starts, I tried uncommenting the line in inittab

T1:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyS1 19200 vt100

And I get a login prompt just fine.  And it prompts me for a
password.  Then a minute later getty dies and is respawned by init.

I get the same results with the corresponding commands for gettyps and
mgetty.

I am guessing that login's config is responsible, but it's a little
hard to diagnose since login_961025-2.deb's documentation doesn't
match the programs well.

Oh, and the getty is 1.45a-3

Any ideas?


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Linux as a Terminal Server and Router

1997-10-16 Thread Tony D. Koehn
Anyone use Linux as a Router & Terminal server to a 56K Frame Relay

Tony Koehn




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Re: Help with xserver

1997-10-16 Thread Daniel J. Mashao
On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, I Brake for Moths wrote:

> I had this problem recently, and I believe that the solution may be to 
> reinstall the X fonts.  The new xserver expects to find gzipped fonts, 
> and it is probably finding .Z files instead.  Just download the various 
> xfnt*.deb packages, install them, and you'll be back in business.
> 
Thanks Rikki I am back in business.

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Where is xload program?

1997-10-16 Thread Daniel J. Mashao
I am looking for xload package and I don't know where it is?
How can I find out where it is w/o having to waste bandwidth? and secondly
why don't they just leave xload alone? There is no need for xload to be
part of another program. My 2 cents.

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Re: problem with leafnode and gnus

1997-10-16 Thread Joey Hess
Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> leafnode is a program, you don't need care about - just install it and
> that's it (ok, change one or two lines in config file).
> 
> But you have to install inews, too. Otherwise you cannot post.

Not really. You can use inews if you like. Or you can use a news reader like
slrn that posts via nntp. Leafnode will accept the post and feed it to the
upstream news server next time fetch is run.

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SCSI CDROM, ID 0, not recognized or driveable

1997-10-16 Thread Terrence Brannon
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted as well.


I have a Toshiba 4X Internal CDROM. Upon booting my PC, the scan of
controller 0 reveals that the CDROM is indeed on SCSI controller 0.

However, when Debian Linux 1.3 boots up, it says

scsi: detected 0 hosts

and attempting to install from CDROM fails because non of the options
for CDROM are recognized.

Any idea how to make this CDROM recognizable?
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Re: RealAudio 5.0b1: NO sound under linux 2.x

1997-10-16 Thread Joey Hess
Oz Dror wrote:
> I have just installed the new version of RealAudio, but there is no sound.
> 
> I get the following message in /usr/adm/messages:
> 
> Oct 16 09:25:32 OZ kernel: Sound error: Couldn't allocate DMA buffer 
> 
> sound does work for me in RealAudio 3.0 and other application.
> 
> Any ideas?

I often have this problem using various sound programs. The problem is that
the kernel needs to allocate memory in a certian region, and if the memory
there is is use by something else, it fails. What I do is run some large
program (netscape works well) to swap out a lot of memory, and then exit the
program, which hopefully frees up the memory address the kernel needs for DMA,
and then try again.

If netscape doesn't swap out enough memory, I use the "swapout" program that
is part of the ftape package. On my system with 80 mb ram, I've had to
swapout as much as 60 MB before I could play sounds. Though normally
"swapout 16" will do the trick.

I really hate this kernel problem. :-(

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Re: Very weird behaviour - hardware failure ?

1997-10-16 Thread G. Crimp
Updated reflection:

I am beginning to wonder if all this psychadelic stuff isn't 
related to the initial install and physical and logical disk geometry.  
My first experience with Linux was Slackware.  I got nothing but a suite 
of hda: errors when I tried to make the ext2 fs checking for bad blocks.  
When it sais it was finished I could never get any further until I 
finally realized that it was using the logical geometry from the bios 
that DOS needs.  It was not doing any translation to the actual physical 
geometry.  I had to tell the install process, at the install boot prompt, 
about my actual geometry.

When i installed Debian, I noticed that it too was reporting hda 
paremeters from the bios record during the boot process so I quit and 
restarted.  At the new installation boot prompt I reported the physical 
geometry of the HD.  The boot messages still reported the logical 
geometry, and I went with that, not knowing what else to do.

Is this OK ?  Does Debian handle making translations between 
logical and physical geometry ? If not, how do I report the physical 
geomtry to Debian ?

Thanks again everyone,

Gerald


On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, I wrote:

> My system is behaving very strangely since I installed Debian.  I had
> Slackware on my box before and it seemed to behave as one would expect.  I
> was despondent at first because it seemed that I could not configure
> Debian to behave as I come to expect with Slackware.  Now I suspect
> something far more insidious and hope someone out there will recognize the
> problem.  In short, am I experiencing a hardware failure ? 
> 
> The symptoms involve hda errors, kernel panics, making a ppp connection
> with PAP, and freaky xdm light shows.  Personally I am beginning to
> suspect that my hard disk has gone, but don't know enough to say for sure. 
> Maybe something else is going that makes it look like the HD has gone. 
> Maybe its software somewhere. 
> 
> Symptom # 1 Preparing my Linux partitions for the Deb install.
> 
>   When initializing an ext2 Linux native partition with a bad-block
> scan things started out fine with
> 
>   checking for bad blocks (read only test):   xx/542776
> 
> but then things started to get nasty and I got messages like the following
> interspersed with the above message
> 
>   hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error 
> ]
>   hda: read_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect = x,
>   sector=yyy
>   end_request: I/O error, dev 03:07, sector yyy
> 
> I got about a gazillion of these error messages.  At first I thought that
> all of a sudden something had happened to my disk that was causing blocks
> to go bad, but I am no longer so sure.  I did get the install finished and
> Debian seemed to be working. 
> 
> Symptom # 2 Disappearing DOS partitions
> 
> Before I installed Linux I had DOS primary partition and an extended
> partition containing two logical drives.  When I bought the computer, I
> knew I would be installing Linux, so I only used about a third of the disk
> for these DOS partitions.  I didn't have to use fips or anything similar
> to get ready for Linux. 
> 
> After installing Linux everything seemed hunky-dory.  I could access C:,
> D:, and E: from both Linux and form DOS or Windoze 3.1.  Then one day, in
> windoze I went to File Manager to look for something on D:, and neither D:
> nor E: was visible -- no little driver icon to click on on the driver icon
> bar. 
> 
> I can still see them from Linux however.
> 
> Symptom # 3 Seeming random hd i/o timeouts
> 
> I can't remember the exact message to this error and can not find where I
> wrote it.  But it was hard disk i/o timeouts that started with "hda:
> status error" or somesuch, then said "hda: drive not ready for command"
> then something or other about resetting and things being okay.  This never
> caused a crash or anything but happened doing things like an "ls".  I
> could get these messages in the middle of a directory listing if the
> directory was long. 
> 
> I haven't had this  problem for awhile.
> 
> Sympton # 4 Kernel Panics
> 
> I foolishly didn't write down all of these and now can't remember what I
> was doing when these panics happened.  They were always during ordinary
> things though.  The most recent happened when I was trying to get my new
> ppp connection setup with pppd and chat.  I was just testing a new script
> and whammo!  Dirty powerdown. 
> 
> Just found a message from one of the first times this happened
> 
>   message from syslogd
>   Kernel: Kernel panic: EXT2 fs panic (device 03:07): ext2_read_inode: 
> unable
>   to read i-node block - inode = , block= y
> 
> When I tried to shutdown -r now I got
> 
>   hda: status error: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest 
> Error ]
>   hda: status error: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect = 
> xx

Re: several problems with a new installation (hey, I'm learning)

1997-10-16 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, Will Lowe wrote:

> On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, Richard A. Guay wrote:
> 
> > Okay, I will look into that.  Where is the Sound-HOWTO?  Where are all of
> > the howto's? 
> 
> Try ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO
> 
> > Sorry for dumb questions.
> 
> S'Okay.  This one is a faq,  but the faq is in the same place as the
> howtos,  so if you can't find the faq,   the faq is useless ...
> 

Also in doc-linux, if you install that package.


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Re: problem with leafnode and gnus

1997-10-16 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Adrian Bridgett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I now use inn and newsx [ ... ]

INN uses the same technique that you dislike, too - lots of hardlinks
everywhere.  May be ugly, but it's about the only way to store USENET
using a Unix-like file system.

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Re: problem with leafnode and gnus

1997-10-16 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Gustaf Erikson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> However, after subscribing to c.o.l.misc and c.o.l.advocacy with gnus,
> I run fetch. It takes a long time. I check /var/spool/news, and see
> lots of directories for alt, gnu, soc, and uk. I don't want this.

If you want comp.*.advocacy and do not not want cross-posts, I don't
think you're going to get what you want.

FWIW, I use gnus too, and I regularly abort fetch.  Fetch should
handle that reasonably, perhaps except during the very first run.

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Re: Serial TTY's

1997-10-16 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Richard Kaszeta wrote:
> 
> Okay, I've got a fairly out-of-the-box Bo system, and I wanted to hook
> up a dumb text terminal to it (in addition to the standard console).
> I've done this before on Linux and Debian machines, no problem, but
> now it's not working.
> 
> For starts, I tried uncommenting the line in inittab
> 
> T1:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyS1 19200 vt100
> 
> And I get a login prompt just fine.  And it prompts me for a
> password.  Then a minute later getty dies and is respawned by init.

It prompts you for a password before you type your login? If so there
must be something wrong with the terminal settings.
 
> I get the same results with the corresponding commands for gettyps and
> mgetty.
> 
> I am guessing that login's config is responsible, but it's a little
> hard to diagnose since login_961025-2.deb's documentation doesn't
> match the programs well.
> 
> Oh, and the getty is 1.45a-3

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Re: is the Creative Labs AWE64 GOLD Soundcard supported?

1997-10-16 Thread Nicola Bernardelli
 Tons of e-mail and attached files passed... Marcus and I spared those
things to others, here's what survives of the message I had started
writing for the list... 


On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 11, 1997 at 10:14:40PM -0200, Nicola Bernardelli wrote:
> > 
> > BTW, why does the sound module say what follows at each startup, when I
> > have the default 4megs on the soundcard? (Sure, on some readme...) 
> > 
> > AWE32 Sound Driver v0.3.3e (DRAM 28672k)
> 
> Mmmh. Because it can't detect your soundcard correctly :)
> 
> From /usr/src/INSTALL.awe:
> 
> 
> * Manual Installation...

... ok, I wait a moment... (it will be the last thing in this message). 

> before you do it, could you test what happens if you load a lot of samples
> with sfxload (more than four meg)? You can load the same big samples in
> different banks with:
> 
> sfxload -b1 name
> sfxload -b2 name
> ...
> 
> I would be interested in the error message (if any).

--

nick:~$ sfxload -i /mnt/fat1/sb16/sfbank/gm35revc.sf2
nick:~$ sfxload -b1 /mnt/fat1/sb16/sfbank/2gmgsmt.sf2
[Loading Data 144]
Error in loading data: No space left on device
nick:~$ sfxload -x -b1 /mnt/fat1/sb16/sfbank/2gmgsmt.sf2
[Loading Data 144]
Error in loading data: No space left on device
nick:~$ sfxload -b1 /mnt/fat1/sb16/sfbank/2gmgsmt.sf2
[Loading Data 0]
Error in loading data: No space left on device
nick:~$ sfxload -b2 /mnt/fat1/sb16/samples/voiperpn.sf2
[Loading Data 0]
Error in loading data: No space left on device
nick:~$



nick:~$ sfxload -i /mnt/fat1/sb16/sfbank/gm35revc.sf2
^^ cleans any fonts in any bank and send this to
   the default bank, which is 0
nick:~$ sfxload -b1 /cdrom/sf2demo/flight.sf2 
nick:~$ drvmidi /cdrom/sf2demo/flight.mid
nick:~$ sfxload -x -b1 /cdrom/sf2demo/radiatn.sf2 
nick:~$ drvmidi /cdrom/sf2demo/radiatn.mid



nick:~$ sfxload -i -b1 /cdrom/sf2demo/radiatn.sf2
nick:~$ drvmidi /cdrom/sf2demo/radiatn.mid





nick:~$ sfxload -i /mnt/fat1/sb16/sfbank/gm35revc.sf2
nick:~$ sfxload -b1 /cdrom/sf2demo/letmesay.sbk
nick:~$ drvmidi /cdrom/sf2demo/letmesay.mid
nick:~$ sfxload -x -b1 /cdrom/sf2demo/surprise.sf2
nick:~$ drvmidi /cdrom/sf2demo/surprise.mid
nick:~$ sfxload -x -b1 /cdrom/sf2demo/riffmia.sf2
nick:~$ drvmidi /cdrom/sf2demo/riffmia.mid
nick:~$ sfxload -x -b1 /cdrom/sf2demo/htonight.sf2
nick:~$ drvmidi /cdrom/sf2demo/htonight.mid
nick:~$ sfxload -x -b1 /cdrom/sf2demo/awedigph.sf2
nick:~$ drvmidi /cdrom/sf2demo/awedigph.mid
nick:~$ sfxload -x -b1 /cdrom/sf2demo/aweblown.sf2
nick:~$ drvmidi /cdrom/sf2demo/aweblown.mid
not a MIDI file  <- broken also for Windog sequencers
nick:~$ sfxload -x -b1 /cdrom/sf2demo/awegathr.sf2
nick:~$ drvmidi /cdrom/sf2demo/awegathr.mid

Anything seems OK here!

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On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 11, 1997 at 10:14:40PM -0200, Nicola Bernardelli wrote:
>
> [snip] 
>
> > Each time I did these steps (staying inside /etc and after 'mount -r -t
> > msdos /dev/sda1 /mnt/fat1' and after '/etc/init.d/nas stop'): 
> > 
> > rmmod sound
> > 
> > isapnp isapnp.conf-poke
> > insmod sound
> > sfxload -i /mnt/fat1/sb16/sfbank/gm35revc.sf2
> > saytime
> > drvmidi /mnt/fat1/sb16/samples/awe64/*.mid
> 
> Please, could you also try the following:
> 
> sfxload -b1 /sample.sbk
> drvmidi /sfx.midi
> 
> If you don't have those files, I would be happy to mail them to you (and I
> hope I would not violate any copyrights :( ). It is important for me,
> because it didn't worked for me the day before, but now after recompiling
> with awedrv 0.4.2c it works. (sfx.midi uses some samples in bank 1)

I have sample.sbk but not sfx.mid*

> Oh, there is another example like this coming with vienna:
> 
> sfxload -b1 voiperpn.sf2
> drvmidi zebraper.mid
> 
> (you shouldn't hear any piano with this, but I do)

Try replacing any previously loaded soundfonts and putting the new one in
bank 0:

nick:~$ sfxload -i /mnt/fat1/sb16/samples/voiperpn.sf2
nick:~$ drvmidi /mnt/fat1/sb16/samples/zebraper.mid
 
I don't hear any piano like this ^ , while I hear it if I do: 

nick:~$ sfxload -i /mnt/fat1/sb16/sfbank/gm35revc.sf2
nick:~$ sfxload -b1 /mnt/fat1/sb16/samples/voiperpn.sf2
nick:~$ drvmidi /mnt/fat1/sb16/samples/zebraper.mid

Notice that playing this mid file under Windog too, after loading _only_
gm35revc.sf2, resulted in _everything_ played with a piano sound. There's
a MIDI control to select a bank to select a preset in, so if a midi file
expects to have a peculiar font on a peculiar bank you have to put it
there. What is required for zebraper.mid?

--

On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:

[snip]

> ... the (VERIFYLD N) command would be alot easier.

[than the POKE one, snip]

> 
> So, if you could try this config script (note the fourth line):
> 
> (READPORT 0x0203)
> (ISOLATE)
> (IDENTIFY *)
> (VERIFYL

Re: Help with xserver

1997-10-16 Thread Matt Thompson
yes, if you have AccelX (i do), this could be the solution:

Subject: Re: default fonts and the x server 

Kevin wrote:

>Guys, I've seen the answer to this recently. Don't know how current the 
>archive is--so you may not be able to search it for the exact answer.
>
>AccelX can't do compressed fonts (.gz I think).  XFree has apparently 
^^ That's true, .Z it handles well.
>decided to start compressing them.  There is a workaround and it 
>involves something like doing 'MAKEFONTDIR' in each of the target 
>directories. 
>
Not quite, I wonder if AccelX 3.1 aka AX will handle .pcf.gz files...
OK, I'm back in business now, what I had to do is:
---
cd to /usr/lib/X11/fonts/ and then to the misc, 75dpi and 100dpi subdirs
respectively.
In each subdir doing a:
gzip -d *.gz
compress *.pcf  (we want _some_ compression at least ^_^)
mkfontdir
---

That's it. Semi-happy camper again, lost 2 hours over this...


Matt Thompson 
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On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, Kevin F. Havener wrote:

> Or the reverse may be occuring if you are using a commercial X server 
> like AcceleratedX.  It expects to find *.Z fonts, not *.gz fonts.  So 
> if you did install new fonts when you upgraded you may hose up 
> your commercial X server.
> 
>  kevni
> > Date:  Thu, 16 Oct 1997 09:55:05 -0400 (EDT)
> > From:  I Brake for Moths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To:"Daniel J. Mashao" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc:debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject:   Re: Help with xserver
> 
> > I had this problem recently, and I believe that the solution may be to 
> > reinstall the X fonts.  The new xserver expects to find gzipped fonts, 
> > and it is probably finding .Z files instead.  Just download the various 
> > xfnt*.deb packages, install them, and you'll be back in business.
> > 
> > Rikki Hall
> > 
> > On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, Daniel J. Mashao wrote:
> > 
> > > I was once again tempted to upgrade my xserver and all hell broke loose.
> > > Now I cannot get into X any more.
> > > The server fails with the message:
> > > __
> > > Fatal server error:
> > > could not open default font 'fixed'
> > > --
> > > 
> > > I am hoping that someone might speedily help me. This is a production
> > > machine and I need to run in X.
> > > I did not provide all other details because i think someone migh easily
> > > recognize the error message.
> > > 
> > > //
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> > > //
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Re: Where is xload program?

1997-10-16 Thread Daniel Doro Ferrante
On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, Daniel J. Mashao wrote:

> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 21:02:25 +0200 (SAT)
> From: "Daniel J. Mashao" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Where is xload program?
> Resent-Date: 16 Oct 1997 18:51:20 -
> Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Resent-cc: recipient list not shown: ;
> 
> I am looking for xload package and I don't know where it is?
> How can I find out where it is w/o having to waste bandwidth? and secondly
> why don't they just leave xload alone? There is no need for xload to be
> part of another program. My 2 cents.
> 

If I am not mistaken xload is in the package xproc(something).deb

> //
> Daniel J. Mashao -- 
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> //
> 

Daniel.

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Re: majordomo list server

1997-10-16 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On 16 Oct 1997, Pedro Quaresma de Almeida wrote:

> test-list: :include:/var/lib/majordomo/lists/test
> 
> it is not the correct one!? 

I think that's ok (don't take my word for this). But probably the
configuration of some director in smail is not... in /etc/smail/directors.

I don't remember, it either this one:

aliasinclude:
driver = aliasinclude, nobody;
copysecure, copyowners

or this one:

lists:
driver=forwardfile, sender_okay, owner=owner-$user,
caution, nobody;
file=lists/${lc:user}

HTH,

Marcelo Magallon


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Re: is the Creative Labs AWE64 GOLD Soundcard supported?

1997-10-16 Thread Nicola Bernardelli
On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, Nicola Bernardelli wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, Oct 11, 1997 at 10:14:40PM -0200, Nicola Bernardelli wrote:
> > > 
> > > BTW, why does the sound module say what follows at each startup, when I
> > > have the default 4megs on the soundcard? (Sure, on some readme...) 
> > > 
> > > AWE32 Sound Driver v0.3.3e (DRAM 28672k)
> > 
> > Mmmh. Because it can't detect your soundcard correctly :)
> > 
> > From /usr/src/INSTALL.awe:

[snip]

> > Then it should work.
> 
> Done, but I still get this with kernel 2.0.30:  AWE32 Sound Driver v0.3.3e
> (DRAM 28672k)
> 

_Now_ done also 2.0.29 and it is the same.

-

(BTW, forgot this: Steinberg Italy gave some advice about CubasisAudio and
Windog 3.1, but that didn't work, so I'm enquiring Creative UK and hope
_they_ will eventually contact Steinberg Germany, or I will.)


Nicola




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dpkg & slackware?

1997-10-16 Thread Rick Hawkins

I've just been given the goahead to take over a project, in which there
are linux boxes being used about the state as mail servers and mail
monitors. 

Currently, it all works, but is a set of kluges running slackware.
Ultimately, the machines will be switched over to debian (or possibly
redhat, but i doubt it), but as they are distributed throughout the
state, reinstalling is not an option until we figure out how to do it
remotely (and on the first try :).  

In the meantime, though, a priority is to get the proprietary software
in a package that we can work with.  Which leads to the magic question:
what will it take to install dpkg on top of slackware?

rick


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[no subject]

1997-10-16 Thread Ferenc Kiraly
Hi!

Someone asked where the xload program is. 
It's in the xproc package.

feri.


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Converting ascii to ebcdic

1997-10-16 Thread mlemke
I am looking for the name of the file that dd uses to perform its ascii
to ebcdic conversion.
I would like to make some changes to the translation table but don't
know where to find it.

Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks

Marc Lemke
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shared /usr

1997-10-16 Thread Ferenc Kiraly
Hi!

I have two linux boxes here, sharing the /usr filesystem via NFS.
It all works well, more or less, trouble starts when I want to
upgrade the software on both machines. I would very much
appreciate your suggestions on how to handle this situation.

feri.



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Re: Netscape's Stale Lock Files -- Automatic Removal

1997-10-16 Thread Joey Hess
Paul Serice wrote:
> I grew weary of starting Netscape after it crashed only to get the   
> message about there being a stale lock file.  So I added this small  
> script to my Netscape wrapper.  It seems to work.  Is there a better
> way of doing this?

I'm much more brutal - my wrapper just does rm -f $HOME/.netscape/lock
Of course, it also checks to see if it can run netscape -remote to tell
netscape to pop up a new window, so I don't start up unnecessary netscape
processes if one is already running on my current display.

-- 
see shy jo


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Re: is the Creative Labs AWE64 GOLD Soundcard supported?

1997-10-16 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Thu, Oct 16, 1997 at 09:33:40PM -0200, Nicola Bernardelli wrote:
>
>  Tons of e-mail and attached files passed... Marcus and I spared those
> things to others, here's what survives of the message I had started
> writing for the list... 
 
Yupp. Now the fine work can begin -> sorting out :)
 
> > Oh, there is another example like this coming with vienna:
> > 
> > sfxload -b1 voiperpn.sf2
> > drvmidi zebraper.mid
> > 
> > (you shouldn't hear any piano with this, but I do)
> 
> Try replacing any previously loaded soundfonts and putting the new one in
> bank 0:
> 
> nick:~$ sfxload -i /mnt/fat1/sb16/samples/voiperpn.sf2
> nick:~$ drvmidi /mnt/fat1/sb16/samples/zebraper.mid

I will try it... Thank you.

> I don't hear any piano like this ^ , while I hear it if I do: 
> 
> nick:~$ sfxload -i /mnt/fat1/sb16/sfbank/gm35revc.sf2
> nick:~$ sfxload -b1 /mnt/fat1/sb16/samples/voiperpn.sf2
> nick:~$ drvmidi /mnt/fat1/sb16/samples/zebraper.mid
> 
> Notice that playing this mid file under Windog too, after loading _only_
> gm35revc.sf2, resulted in _everything_ played with a piano sound. There's
> a MIDI control to select a bank to select a preset in, so if a midi file
> expects to have a peculiar font on a peculiar bank you have to put it
> there. What is required for zebraper.mid?

Strange is, that I hear sometimes piano, sometimes the real samples. They
are mixing up. Mmmh, have to do some testing here.
 
> --
> 
> On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
> > ... the (VERIFYLD N) command would be alot easier.
> 
> As we said by private e-mail, this doesn't work with isapnptools-1.9-1; as
> my system is libc5 based I had to pick the source of 1.11 in order to be
> able to try with it (the Debian package depends on libc6) and rebuild the
> binaries, and IT WORKS (but both isapnp and pnpdump take 6 seconds here,
> while 1.9-1 took the time to press ). 

Yes. I contacted the author about it, waiting I am.

> > /*
> >  * AWE32 card configuration:
> >  * uncomment the following lines only when auto detection doesn't
> >  * work properly on your machine.
> >  **/
> > 
> > /*#define AWE_DEFAULT_BASE_ADDR 0x620*/ /* base port address */
> > /*#define AWE_DEFAULT_MEM_SIZE  512*/   /* kbytes */
> > 
> > you should change to
> > #define AWE_DEFAULT_BASE_ADDR 0x620 /* base port address */
> > #define AWE_DEFAULT_MEM_SIZE  4096   /* kbytes */
> > 
> > Then it should work.
> 
> Done, but I still get this with kernel 2.0.30:  AWE32 Sound Driver v0.3.3e
> (DRAM 28672k)

This is awkward. You should test it with the new version, too. awe-drv is
actually at 0.4.2c (you can find the location in my HOWTO).

Note that the sources coming with kernel 2.1.55 in the lowlevel directory
are version 0.3.1! This is very old, and everything can break.

Oh, one more: 0.4.2c does support dynamically loaded sample fonts, so you
can use the 4 Megabyte bank with 2 Megabyte RAM on the card. Obviously, you
can try the ( MB with 4MB on card,...

> (Ok, Marcus, I still have to do it in 2.0.29... you had a message half an
> hour ago... 
> Britton, my dear, you understand we were doing lot of tests bringing
> possibly to lot of things to be just discarded...  that's why we didn't
> keep cc'ing to you... but of course the wonderful HOWTO of Marcus is
> available.)

Thank you :)
 
> I also tried it in the 2.1.55 kernel, but there I think I should modify
> something else... awe support remains more or less broken there for me (I
> have a 12k text file with boot-time output of various tries I did, if you
> want it I think I have better send it to you by private e-mail), almost
> with the default config files, AWE_NEW_KERNEL_INTERFACE... Notice that the
> debian package when applied to 2.0.30 prompts for AWE_MAX_SAMPLES,
> AWE_MAX_INFOS... These questions do not appear in make config of 2.1.55...

As stated above, the version with 2.1.55 is very old. The MAX questions
arise not in version 0.4.2c anymore, because the memory is allocated
dynamically (Yipie!).

Thank you alot,
Marcus

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Re: is the Creative Labs AWE64 GOLD Soundcard supported?

1997-10-16 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Thu, Oct 16, 1997 at 10:58:12PM -0200, Nicola Bernardelli wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, Nicola Bernardelli wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> > 
> > > On Sat, Oct 11, 1997 at 10:14:40PM -0200, Nicola Bernardelli wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > BTW, why does the sound module say what follows at each startup, when I
> > > > have the default 4megs on the soundcard? (Sure, on some readme...) 
> > > > 
> > > > AWE32 Sound Driver v0.3.3e (DRAM 28672k)
> > > 
> > > Mmmh. Because it can't detect your soundcard correctly :)
> > > 
> > > From /usr/src/INSTALL.awe:
> 
> [snip]
> 
> > > Then it should work.
> > 
> > Done, but I still get this with kernel 2.0.30:  AWE32 Sound Driver v0.3.3e
> > (DRAM 28672k)
> > 
> 
> _Now_ done also 2.0.29 and it is the same.

We should really file a bug report. It would be nice if you could test the
version 0.4.2c of the awe-drv.

Thank you,
Marcus

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