Re: Sendmail broken (Debian 1.3)

1997-08-05 Thread Pete Templin

On Sun, 27 Jul 1997, D. W. Wieboldt wrote:

> Good suggestion.  I think it is indeed timing out for want of a good
> lookup.  Have host name in /etc/hosts but that doesn't help.  Now howto
> hack sendmail into submission!  Does anybody know the simple fix to the
> .cf file to make it run?  Thanks all!

One beneficial fix is to install the bind package (or find a convenient,
well-connected-to-your-LAN-if-you have-one name server) and set it up to
be primary or secondary for the reverse mapping of your IP address(es).  I
set up a dial-on-demand router for a computer store, and sendmail startup
took forever until I configured named to be a secondary for the ISP's
modems' subnet x.x.x.in-addr.arpa and the store subnet
x.x.x.in-addr.arpa .  Bingo! No more delays (at least for that
reason...now the delay is the squid boot sequence).

Pete

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Re: fingering/pgp keys

1997-08-05 Thread Paul Miller
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Everything is set right in the configuration file and there are no errors
in the log file.  I also set the program to mode 2755 with the group being
'www-data' (I set the home dirs readable/executable to that group for
apache)... it still doesn't work...

- -Paul

On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Martin Schulze wrote:

> Paul Miller writes:
> 
> > Ok.. I installed cfinger and created the .pgpkey file.  When I finger it
> > shows a different output (because of cfinger -- its working) but it
> > doesn't show whats in the .plan or .pgpkey, only user's real name.  In the
> > /etc/inetd.conf it runs it as root, so access shouldn't be a problem...
> > what could be?   -- try fingering [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > - -Paul
> > 
> > On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Martin Schulze wrote:
> > 
> > > On Aug 4, Paul Miller wrote
> > > 
> > > > How can I set up my system so people can finger for pgp keys?  I have no
> > > > idea where to start, but there must be a template file somewhere.
> > > 
> > > Very easy.  Install cfingerd and extract you pgp key into ~/.pgpkey
> > > (don't forget to chmod 644 it)
>  ^
> 
> Did you take care of this?
> 
> If so, please take a look at /etc/cfingerd/cfingerd.conf.  One can
> configure which information should be given out.
> 
> If you grep for -i pgp in it you should see something like:
> 
> PGP_KEY = ".pgpkey",
> +PGP= [TRUE, TRUE],
> PGPKEY  = "PGP Public Key:",
> 
> cfingerd performs some logging so you should be able to read some
> messages from syslog.
> 
> Regards
> 
>   Joey
> 
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Re: Applixware and alien

1997-08-05 Thread George Bonser
On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Joey Hess wrote:

> > I installed
> > alien from unstable, which has the appropriate patchfile.  When I try
> > installing Applixware, I get the following errors:
> >   cannot open package: No such file or directory
> >   cpio: premature end of archive
> >   Error unpacking applix-4.3-1.i386.rpm
> 
> This sounds like your applixware rpm is corrupted.


Or, you are not giving the correct path to applix OR you are not root.



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Re: bind - no binfmt-0 / too many open files.

1997-08-05 Thread Pete Templin

On Tue, 29 Jul 1997, ninjaz wrote:

> Jul 29 01:52:15 www modprobe: can't locate module binfmt-0
> Jul 29 01:52:15 www modprobe: can't locate module binfmt-0
> Jul 29 01:52:28 www named[20732]: starting.  named 4.9.5-REL Mon Apr 28
> 20:39:58 MET DST 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/debian/bind/bind-4.9.5/named
> Jul 29 01:52:28 www named[20732]: fcntl(dfd, F_DUPFD, 20): Too many open
> files
> Jul 29 01:52:28 www last message repeated 14 times
> 
> Also:
> 
> # lsof | wc -l
> 852

I was suffering from the file limit when too many sendmails were
delivering queued mail.  I just accidentally deleted kernel-source-2.0.27,
so I can't easily find the hack, but I think I found a similar place to
hack it in 2.0.30:

In /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.30/include/linux/ , here's my changed
fs.h (excerpted):

/* And dynamically-tunable limits and defaults: */
extern int max_inodes, nr_inodes;
extern int max_files, nr_files;
#define NR_INODE 98304  /* this should be bigger than NR_FILE */
#define NR_FILE 32768   /* this can well be larger on a larger system */

This was 3072 and 1024, respectively.  Kernel memory usage hasn't changed
anything drastically, and I've certainly done away with those pesky
errors.

This may or may not have anything to do with what you're experiencing,
though.

Pete

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Re: Applixware and alien

1997-08-05 Thread Adam Shand
>Has anyone tried installing Applixware 4.3 using alien? I installed
>alien from unstable, which has the appropriate patchfile.  When I try
>installing Applixware, I get the following errors:
>  cannot open package: No such file or directory
>  cpio: premature end of archive
>  Error unpacking applix-4.3-1.i386.rpm

I did this a few days ago.  It appeared to be very simply.  I installed
alien, cpio and rpm and then just converted the .rpm packages to .deb
packages and installed them using dpkg.

It worked fine.

Adam.

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Re: Unsubscribing

1997-08-05 Thread Pete Templin

On Sun, 3 Aug 1997, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:

> You are right, this is really high traffic here! Please read the last three
> lines of your mail, or the last three lines of my mail :-) They say, that
> you can get off the list via [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  ^^^ 
> PS: This is true for every debian-* list. Just send a mail to
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One IMPORTANT note for readers of the DIGEST form of the lists: Contrary
to the information at the bottom of the individual messages,
unsubscription from the digest form of the lists is at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] .  Many, many people seem to
get caught by this loophole, and some can get quite loud with their
frustrations.  I can't seem to come up with an easy fix for this
situation, unfortunately.
 
> PPS: If you have further trouble, you can mail to a real human being, Pete
> Templin. He will help you if he can. His email address is
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True, true.  That's me.  If you do have questions or requests, it's often
helpful to tell me the following information:

1)  Your email address.  If you have multiple addresses, this can help
me tremendously, particularly if other addresses forward to a central
address.

2)  What list(s) you're on, or more specifically which list(s) you
would like to be removed from.


On a side note, some people get the Debian mailing lists by way of
intermediate lists.  If you are one of those people, I will have little
ability to help you.  It's often best to save the auto-subscription
messages from any mailing list, especially in the above situation.


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Re: speed of X

1997-08-05 Thread Pete Templin

On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Paul Wade wrote:

> Linux will use a swap partition of up to 128 meg. You can add swap files
> if you need more. I haven't heard anything about slowdowns. Maybe you're
> thinking about windows swap usage and performance? Somebody correct me if
> I'm wrong.

I know that Linux (or at least Debian, but this sure seems like a Linux
issue) can use multiple swap partitions (I think up to 8, perhaps even 16,
being up to almost 128MB each).  I had two 120M swap partitions at one
time, but removed the second due to IDE performance problems (I had a
cron-scheduled process that would heavily access the slave drive while
swapping to the master drive, and due to my configuration, this was
happening on BOTH IDE controllers at the same time.  Yuk!!!).

I think you can have up to 16 swap files, and I think swap files can be up
to 16MB each, but I'm not sure.  I was unable to create a swap file in a
IDE-based Multiple Drives (md) RAID-0 array, but YMMV.

Pete

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smail configuration?

1997-08-05 Thread Kevin M. Bealer


I am trying to configure smail.  I have read the documentation,
searched the source code for an hour or so, and tried to use the
generic configuration script at different settings.

I have been at this for several days -- my mail is still bouncing.


I am on a system which does not have a permanent connection, rather it
has a dynamic IP through Penn State.


When the mail bounces, it comes back with a message to the effect that
the hostname in question does not exist.  This is true of course,
since it is the hostname of the local system, which is a dial up dynamic
IP thing.

When using the debian "configure smail" script, there are 5 or so
options.  The UUCP to smarthost seems to be the closest, except that
instead of UUCP I want to use smtp.  Unfortunately, there is not an
option like this, and although I have tried to modify that setup to
do the job, it seems to do about the same.

Some hosts bounce, some do not -- I assume hosts that are trying to
prevent spam etc are bouncing more than those that aren't.

People have to be using it this way... what is the trick?  It shouldn't
make any difference, but I am using (mh).

Thanks,
Kevin Bealer


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Re: ppp & kernel question

1997-08-05 Thread Shaleh
I found the problem with my error message.  And despite linux's
insisting otherwise it had nothing to do with my kernel.  I mistyped my
link between /dev/ttyS1 and /dev/modem, accidently using /dev/ttys1
instead.  When ppp tried to connect using an invalid modem it gave the
kernel error.  My com2 appeared to not be initializing properly at boot
so I tweaked /etc/rc.boot/0setserial.  Now minicom will use my modem but
pppd logs errors to syslog.  I will try and track those down.  Thanks
Manoj for the help and ppp files -- maybe they will assist me in
tracking down these errors.


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Aug 4 21:54:00 carlf modprobe: can't locate module net-pf-5

1997-08-05 Thread Carl Fink
Trying to make a PPP connection to AT&T's Worldnet service, I have
created a script that will dial.  The modem connection is made, but
ifconfig never reports a ppp0 route.

The daemon.log file reports missing modules, alternating between
net-pf-5 and net-pf-5, a message that on cursory examination only
occurs when trying to reach Worldnet.

Since my main ISP, Panix, doesn't use CHAP and Worldnet does, I'm
assuming this module is needed for CHAP . . . but it's not mentioned
in dselect, so I don't know what to install to make it available.  Did
I miss something when I compiled my custom kernel?

And why would the name alternate, anyway?  And shouldn't a failure to
CHAP authenticate be *reported*, rather than silent?

Thanks in advance for any help.


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lpd: no daemon present?

1997-08-05 Thread Carl Fink
I'm trying to set up printing using apsfilter and lpr (from 1.3.1).
All seems normal enough, I can print with lpr and lpq shows the job in
the queue, but I get this message:

Warning: no daemon present

However, a ps -aux | grep lpd gives this:

root   239  0.0  0.6   836   304  ?  S 22:43   0:00 lpd

So, is lpd not the daemon?  

Nothing prints.  My printer is an old Panasonic KXP-1080i configured
as an IBM Proprinter.  (Yes, mock me all you like, but I hate to throw
away printers that still work.)  If I become root and run lptest >
/dev/lp2, everything works.  My /etc/printcap is as follows:


# apsfilter setup Mon Aug  4 21:38:56 EDT 1997
#
# APS_BASEDIR:/usr/lib/apsfilter
#
#
lp|ascii|lp2|ibmpro-letter-ascii-mono|ibmpro ascii mono:\
:lp=/dev/lpt2:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/ibmpro-letter-ascii-mono:\
:lf=/var/spool/lpd/ibmpro-letter-ascii-mono/log:\
:af=/var/spool/lpd/ibmpro-letter-ascii-mono/acct:\
:if=/usr/lib/apsfilter/filter/aps-ibmpro-letter-ascii-mono:\
:mx#0:\
:sh:

Okay, why does this not work?

Thanks in advance.


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Re: smail configuration?

1997-08-05 Thread George Bonser

Your problem is that you will need to modify your hostname every time you
connect to your PPP host so that your reverse lookup will match your
hostname or you will never be able to send/recieve mail.

There IS an alternative.

If you can find someone that will act as a smarthost for you that is also
UUCP capable, you could do uucp over tcp/ip to get/collect your mail from
them no matter WHERE they happen to be.

Here is one easy way of doing it:

Go to ml.org and get a hostname in their domain ... say your system is
called SPUNKY, you might try to get spunky.ml.org ... it is free but they
WOULD like you to send a donation!

Now, when you set up the spunky.ml.org hostname, they will ask you for an
MX host.  Simply put in the hostname of the MX host that you want to use.
That system would then collect ALL mail for spunky.ml.org

When you connect to penn state, you would then grab all of your mail from
your MX host using UUCP over tcp/ip.  You could also deposit all OUTGONG
mail in the same transaction.  You would, of course, use a visible host
name in your smail config file of spunky.ml.org and you can FORGET about
using penn states smtp altogether. If you use the uusmpt transport, there
are not even any bang paths in the mail at all.  This is impossible with
sendmail and uucp but easilly done with smail.


If you would like, I can provide such an MX service for you.  It is a
breeze using debian's smail and uucp.  It is almost TRIVIAL.  Email me
privately if you are interested, I am going out for a couple of hours but
will be back later.



On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Kevin M. Bealer wrote:

> 
> 
> I am trying to configure smail.  I have read the documentation,
> searched the source code for an hour or so, and tried to use the
> generic configuration script at different settings.
> 
> I have been at this for several days -- my mail is still bouncing.
> 
> 
> I am on a system which does not have a permanent connection, rather it
> has a dynamic IP through Penn State.
> 
> 
> When the mail bounces, it comes back with a message to the effect that
> the hostname in question does not exist.  This is true of course,
> since it is the hostname of the local system, which is a dial up dynamic
> IP thing.
> 
> When using the debian "configure smail" script, there are 5 or so
> options.  The UUCP to smarthost seems to be the closest, except that
> instead of UUCP I want to use smtp.  Unfortunately, there is not an
> option like this, and although I have tried to modify that setup to
> do the job, it seems to do about the same.
> 
> Some hosts bounce, some do not -- I assume hosts that are trying to
> prevent spam etc are bouncing more than those that aren't.
> 
> People have to be using it this way... what is the trick?  It shouldn't
> make any difference, but I am using (mh).
> 
> Thanks,
> Kevin Bealer
> 
> 
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Re: Migrating from Slackware to Debian?

1997-08-05 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Gonzalo A. Diethelm wrote:

> If I do get the Debian Linux distribution, how hard will it be to
> install it in my Slakware system? My current system has been heavily
> modified by installing patches, new releases of existing software
> packages and new packages altogether. Will I face absolute madness, or
> is there a recommended way of going about this business?

 You may move all your manually installed software to the /usr/local
hirerarchy. i.e.: /bin,/usr/bin --> /usr/local/bin ; /usr/lib -->
/usr/local/lib
 Then you should slowly switch to Debian packaged versions...

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List server going down for hardware maintenance

1997-08-05 Thread m*
hello,

the Debian list server is going down at 11:05 p.m. CST for hardware
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your patience is appreciated!

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Re: Netscape plugins don't work

1997-08-05 Thread Scott K. Ellis
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On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, James D. Freels wrote:

> A dialog box appears with an error message
> 
> sh: -c: line 1: missing closing ')' for arithmetic expression
> sh: -c: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token ';'
> sh: -c: line 1: '((acroread file.pdf);rm file.pdf)&'
> 
> I suspect the wrong shell is loaded, but I haven't a clue how to
> correct the problem.  Anyone else fixed this problem?

Established bug in bash-2.00.  The solution would be to upgrade to
bash-2.01, but that is a libc6-based release available only in unstable,
so it will be a little more trouble.  Check the archive for postings on
installing libc6 and the new libraries required for bash.

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How I fixed my trashed Debian system

1997-08-05 Thread Rick Macdonald
On 5 Aug 1997, Martin Steigerwald wrote:

> > > > Whats the trick to this?
> 
> > I did the same thing. Ended up with about 100 broken packages. I was able
> > to fix it without reinstalling from scratch. I could describe what I did
> > if anybody is interested. It involved having a spare partition where I
> > installed the 1.3.1 base system, plus the ability to boot DOS to download
> > the 1.3.1 install disk set which I didn't have on my machine.
> 
> Please do it. My system is broken down so serverely, that I even could
> not log in as root cause libreadline.so.2 is missing.

OK. If this helps just one person I think it's worth typing up. I welcome
any suggestions of things I may have missed fixing or cleaning up.

My system has been up-to-date with unstable for over a year and a half
without problems. I stopped making updates a few weeks ago when Bruce said
that it wasn't in a working state due to the ongoing conversion to libc6.

Then I needed to get g++ working, so I tried to do some updates and got
into a depends/conflicts mess. I tried executing the dselect "install"
option, which started out OK but then got into problems then stopped
working altogether. The clincher was when I did the dselect "remove
unwanted software" option. :-(

At that point I couldn't execute anything anymore. It would boot but 
then I couldn't login.

The first thing that I thought of was reinstalling the base 1.3.1 over top
of my old system. I was afraid to try this; I figured it would blindly
delete my old system. Somebody else asked this same question today. I
haven't seen an answer yet. I guess that I wouldn't work.

So, here's what I did:

o  Booted DOS, dialed up, and downloaded the 1.3.1 install disks.

o  Installed 1.3.1 onto an empty 200 MB partition that I had.
   (just ran the "install.bat" from the dos directory, and did the
   install from there. I didn't even have to write out any floppies)
   This was just the base install and one default go at deselect.
   I just let dselect install whatever was pre-selected as required, etc.

o  Did the following copies from the new (temporary) 1.3.1 to my
   original system, which was mounted as "/mysys" under 1.3.1:

   cp -a /usr/sbin /mysys/usr
   cp -a /usr/bin  /mysys/usr
   cp -a /sbin /mysys
   cp -a /bin  /mysys
   cp -a /usr/lib/libc5-compat /mysys/usr
   cp -a /lib  /mysys
   cp -a /usr/X11R6/lib/mysys/usr/X11R6
   cp -a /usr/lib/lib* /mysys/usr/lib

   This was the list that I came up with that I figured contained
   all the binaries and libraries installed by Debian. I may have
   missed some, but this allowed my old system to work again!

o  Then I downloaded the 1.3.1 distribution that I have mirrored
   at my office. This took 6-8 hours over ISDN.

Now, to downgrade the system to 1.3.1 and clean up:

o  I changed dselect to point to 1.3.1 instead of the unstable tree.

o  I had maybe 100 broken packages in dselect. I made a list of them,
   (dselect marks them cleary) and:

   - the ones that had installed versions but no "available" versions
 were packages that are new to unstable but not in 1.3.1.
 I purged these.

   - All the rest I manually ran "dpkg -i ".

 An easy way to get the deb-file name is to make a little
 script (that I called debfind) that looks like this:

#!/bin/sh
locate $1 | grep debian

Of course, this assumes that you have the tree locally and that
your "updatedb" includes this directory. Just grep for something
in the path of the debian tree.

   This way, I successfully fixed all the broken packages according to
   dselect.

o  Oops. I let let the 1.3.1 install some stuff that I don't normally
   have, and I copied this to my old system with the "cp" commands above.

   I ran "dpkg --get-selections" on the 1.3.1 partition, and ran "diff"
   of this with the output of the same command on the old system. This
   gave me a list of the packages that I needed to get rid of, only
   dselect on my old system didn't know about these because I just 
   copied some of the files (potentially) with those "cp" commands.
   
   To clean these up, I just installed and purged these packages with
   "dpkg -i " and "dpkg --purge ".

o  Now, the last thing to do is to reinstall every package that I have
   installed, because:

   -  some need downgrading from unstable to 1.3.1, others may be
  messed up but I don't now about it.

   Now, a lot of these I just reinstalled to fix the broken packages
   above, but I'm just reinstalling the whole anyway.

   So, I wrote a little Tcl script that I posted today but here it is
   again:

The output looks like this:

dpkg -i /usr/local/src/debian/1.3.1-fixed/binary-i386/base/adduser_3.2.deb
dpkg -i /usr/local/src/debian/1.3.1-fixed/binary-i386/base/ae_962-14.deb
dpkg -i 
/usr/local/src/debian/1.3.1-fixed/binary-i386/libs/aout-svgalib_1.2.10-4.deb
dpkg -i /usr/local/src/debian/1.3.1-fixed/binary-i386/admin/at_3.1.7-3.deb

S

Re: Netscape plugins don't work

1997-08-05 Thread Rick Macdonald
On Tue, 5 Aug 1997, Scott K. Ellis wrote:

> > A dialog box appears with an error message
> > 
> > sh: -c: line 1: missing closing ')' for arithmetic expression
> > sh: -c: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token ';'
> > sh: -c: line 1: '((acroread file.pdf);rm file.pdf)&'
> > 
> > I suspect the wrong shell is loaded, but I haven't a clue how to
> > correct the problem.  Anyone else fixed this problem?
> 
> Established bug in bash-2.00.  The solution would be to upgrade to
> bash-2.01, but that is a libc6-based release available only in unstable,
> so it will be a little more trouble.  Check the archive for postings on
> installing libc6 and the new libraries required for bash.

Yikes! After my fiasco, I'd be inclined to get the bash sources and
compile myself with libc5 on 1.3.1.

...RickM...


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Re: Netscape plugins don't work

1997-08-05 Thread Anthony Fok
On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, James D. Freels wrote:

> Sorry if this is a FAQ, but I haven't seen it yet in this news group.
> It seems that starting with v 4 of Netscape, the plugins no longer
> work.  For example, when clicking a .pdf file, the script will no load
[...]
> sh: -c: line 1: missing closing ')' for arithmetic expression
> sh: -c: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token ';'
> sh: -c: line 1: '((acroread file.pdf);rm file.pdf)&'

You are using bash-2.00, right?  :)  Upgrade to bash-2.01 in unstable,
that should fix the problem.  :)  Is it a bug in bash-2.00 or Netscape?
I have no idea.  Perhaps bash-2.00 was too strict.  :)

Anthony

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Re: Which Debian bundle should I get?

1997-08-05 Thread Anthony Fok
On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Gonzalo A. Diethelm wrote:

> OK, I'm almost ready to go for Debian 1.3.1. I would like to get a CD
> bundle with more stuff in it (like ftp sites archives). Who sells such
> a beast? I need delivery to the LA area.

Check out Cheap*Bytes (http://www.cheapbytes.com/) or Linux Systems Labs
(http://www.lsl.com/).  They are both selling the Official Debian
GNU/Linux 1.3.1 for under US$4.00 (or you may donate $5 more to Software
in Public Interest.  )  They seem to have other great bundles too.
I haven't tried them myself though because I downloaded Debian via FTP
about 9 months ago.  :)

Anthony

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Weird PPP problem

1997-08-05 Thread H Huang

I've been able to established ppp connection using the following two
methods:

(1)
pppd connect "chat -v blah blah blah blah"

(2)
pppd connect "chat -v -f my_chat_script_file"

(All the ppp options are specified in ~/.ppprc)

However I was unable to set up the connection using:

(3)
pppd connect chat.sh

where chat.sh is a shell script that runs chat to make connection:

#!/bin/sh
# my chat.sh file

/usr/sbin/chat -v blah blah blah blah


The expect-send pairs in this file are exactly like those in the chat
scripts in (1) and (2).  I wanted to use this method because there are a
dozen phone numbers I can dial into my ISP, and I want to pass these phone
numbers as argument to chat.sh, so that I don't have to create multiple
chat scripts which are virtually the same except the phone number.

This method is detailed in PPP-HOWTO. The ppp source package also includes
ppp-on, ppp-on-dialer scripts that are based on this method. However I
notice these sample scripts are not included in the debian ppp bianary
package, which makes me wonder if some features have been disable in the
debian distributions of ppp or bash due to some reasons (secuity?). Maybe
the debian maintainers can answer this.

Each time I typed:
 
   pppd connect chat.sh

the process failed very quickly. The whole ppp.log is as follow:

Aug  4 20:22:25 huifang pppd[1644]: pppd 2.2.0 started by hhuang, uid 1000
Aug  4 20:22:26 huifang pppd[1644]: Connect script failed
Aug  4 20:22:26 huifang pppd[1644]: Exit.

The expect-send pairs shouldn't have any problem, since I've been able to
connect using methods (1) and (2). And I've checked chat.sh a thousand
times, the shell script should be free of syntax errors.

Any help appreciated.


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Radius Merit the ongoing battle

1997-08-05 Thread Andrew Brigham

1. I installed Merit Radius
2. I realized I wasn't allowed to use shadow passwords
3. I downloaded the source and fixed the shadow thing in the Makefile
4. I managed to get the server running nicely
5. I did a killall -HUP radiusd-merit
6. Merit stopped sending information to the logfile

I retried 5 and 6 numerous times. It seems Merit Radius doesn't want
continue adding to the logfile after a killall -HUP
The version number is 2.4.23C

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated???


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X11 Display permitions

1997-08-05 Thread Luka Pravica
Hi,

when I'm not logged in as root, I can start X but many programs I try to run
give the following error: cannot open display.

I can run the same programs as root, without any problems. 

Probably I have to change permitions for opening Xdisplay, but I couldn't
find how.

Thanks in advance,

Luka


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Re: dhpcd_0.5.16.1-2 - kernel 2.0.31?

1997-08-05 Thread Christoph Lameter
It looks like I have to retract that change. Linus has released another pre 
patch for 2.0.31 today
without the SO_BINDTODEVICE patches. You can find the necessary patches at 
www.linuxhq.com.

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
: On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Christoph Lameter wrote:

: > : I wanted to upgrade my DHCP daemon to the latest upstream version
: > : that is already packaged in Hamm (dhpcd_0.5.16.1-2). However,
: > : the package says that it won't work with kernels <= 2.0.30 so
: > : it needs at least 2.0.31.
: > 
: > There was a promise made to release 2.0.31 soon a while back. The already
: > existing pre-patches to 2.0.31 provide functionality to make DHCP able to
: > use multiple interfaces.
: > 
: > Build your kernel using these patches and everything will work.

: I assume you meant that the patches are for 2.0.30.

: Were are these patches located.

: Thanks,

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Re: POP3 sending (was: What Linux needs)

1997-08-05 Thread Adam Shand
>I found it somewhere, let me look again.  I had it, now I lost it.  It was
>a description of the xtnd commands for extended pop3.  qpopper uses them I
>know but I am not sure about cucipop.

My understanding was that it was a qpopper feature rather then a extended
RFC feature.  Either way the problem is that mail clients don't support
this feature, so in order for this to be viable for most ISP's we must wait
for mail programs to allow use of this feature.

I don't know of one email client that supports this feature (I don't
believe that even Eudora does, although Qpopper does).

The requirement of needing an account on the mail server to send mail
messages would solve the vast majority of unauthorised mail relaying by
spammers almost over night (if we can get it widely implemented).

Adam.

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finger daemons

1997-08-05 Thread Paul Miller
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

I recently installed cfingerd and it doesn't work with secure home
directories -- I noticed that adding support to open user files as root
and then switch to nobody was *LAST* on their TODO list.  Are there any
other finger daemons that have this support and are as good as cfingerd?

Also, thanks to all those users who tried to help me w/ cfingerd earilier
on this list.

- -Paul

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Re: POP3 sending (was: What Linux needs)

1997-08-05 Thread George Bonser
On Tue, 5 Aug 1997, Adam Shand wrote:

> I don't know of one email client that supports this feature (I don't
> believe that even Eudora does, although Qpopper does).

RIGHT! There NEEDS to be.

> spammers almost over night (if we can get it widely implemented).


I know of TWO MAJOR ISP's that are BEGGING for such clients to become
available.  It seems trivial to impliment. The ONLY drawback that I can
see to it is that there is NOTHING in the mail headers that will show what
IP address actually sent the mail.

I used telnet to port 110 of my provider, did:

USER my-username
PASS my-password
Xtnd Xmit

typed out message with a dot on a blank line at the end.

QUIT

and I got the message.  It worked fine.


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Unidentified subject!

1997-08-05 Thread George Bonser
See, though I forgot to put a subject header in the mail, I am doing this 
manually 
using Xtnd Xmit directly to my provider's pop3 port.

It DOES work.


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Re: "KTI ET32/Px Series PCI Ethernet Adapter" support?

1997-08-05 Thread Joost Kooij
Paul Miller wrote:
> 
> I tried and messaged the company.. it is not compatible with NE2000 and
> there is no Linux support (or even UNIX for that matter).  The NE2000/1000
> driver thought it was a NE1000, but didnt work...

Then it probably is a ne2000. The kernel just does not recognise it.
 
There are two options:

- If you already have the kernel sources, but not the latest uploaded to
debian: visit the linux ethernet homepage (don't know the url by heart,
but it is in the ethernet-HOWTO.) Follow the link to Paul Gortmaker's
ne2000 page and grab ne-2k-pci.diff (or whatever it's name.) Patch the
kernel source and recompile. The card will then be recognised.

- Get the latest kernel-source-2.0.29.deb (maybe still in incoming?) It
has the patch already applied for all us people with a ne2000 pci card
with a chipset other than the RealTek. Recompile and all will be well.

I guess that then newest kernel-image upload will also make your card
work, but it is always better to compile your own kernel anyway. If you
use kernel-package (in misc) there is really nothing to it. 

May the source be with you,


Joost


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Re: splitting up the debian-user mailing list

1997-08-05 Thread Christian Lynbech
> "Mark" == Mark Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Mark> __What do we want to achieve?__

As I read Bruce's mail, this is also an issue of organisation. The
volume here is getting too much for one list-administrator to read
through all mails. Dividing it into two or three clearly orthogonal
lists (ie. that cuts the voulme of each, but not necessarily of all
together) could make it a lot easier to administer things.

Mark> __A Proposal__

I like the topics idea very much, if we can get people to use it (at
least some of the time :-). It would make it very much easier to
filter the group, whether it is visually or automatically. And it is a
good idea, regardless of whether the list is split or not.

However, I would to extend the proposal by adding the topics

[]

ie. where a topic in all lowercase letter should refer to a specific
package, by its canonical name. Uppercase topics is then reserved for
"supertopics", ie. topics combining several packages or without a
clear relation to any specific package.


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Re: X11 Display permitions

1997-08-05 Thread A. M. Varon
On Tue, 5 Aug 1997, Luka Pravica wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> when I'm not logged in as root, I can start X but many programs I try to run
> give the following error: cannot open display.
> 
> I can run the same programs as root, without any problems. 
> 
> Probably I have to change permitions for opening Xdisplay, but I couldn't
> find how.

I think you have file permisson problems. In my Debian box, the only
setuid binary is XF86_S3, and all seems to be okay when i run it as a
normal user.

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Re: splitting up the debian-user mailing list

1997-08-05 Thread Mark Phillips

Bruce Perens wrote:

> It's getting kind of loud here. I've been thinking of splitting the
> debian-user list into several lists
> 
> Comments?

As others have pointed out, splitting the list could very well create more
problems than it solves.  We should not go down this road without some
careful thinking.


__What do we want to achieve?__

1. Newcommers to Debian can be overwhelmed by the volume of mail on the
list.  Unless we find a way of providing them with assistance without
requiring them to sort through large volumes of email, we are likely to
lose many prospective new users.

2. The volume is too large for everything to be read by everyone.  We need
a scheme which assists people in filtering out email they're not
interested in.  At the same time, we don't want to filter so effectively
that people narrow their interests too much.

3. We need a scheme that assists and encourages people in donating time to
helping others on the list.

4. We need to minimise unneccessary posts.



__A Proposal__

Others have had some good ideas.  I've tried to use some of these to
create a proposal that I hope will go a long way towards satisfying the
above goals.  Comments and suggestions for improvement are welcome. 

1. Retain a the debian-user list as the main list.  As someone else
proposed, create a number of different "Topics".  Each email must
include a valid "topic" at the start of the subject line in square
brackets.  Otherwise the post is rejected with a polite message
asking the sender to include a valid topic in their post.
Eg,
[PPP] pon doesn't work properly
[LIST] should we split the list?
[GENERAL] Did anyone see article in Woman's Weekly on Debian?
[INSTALL] Can't install Debian 1.3
(for overlapping in topics, we could allow multiple topics)
[PPP,INSTALL] Can't install ppp

In this way, the sender would be forced to give information which
would assist readers of the list to filter their email - either
automatically, or simply through visual scanning of subject lines.

2. Create a special topic called NEWBIE (or something else if people
don't like the name).  Also create a separate mail list "debian-newbie".
This would hopefully be a low volume mailing list designed for people new
to Debian.  When they post to it, posts would also be sent to debian-user
with the subject line given [NEWBIE] as a prefix.  Newcommers could then
have access to help without becomming overwhelmed by email.  As they
became more familiar with Debian, newbies would be encouraged to move
to debian-user.  Hopefully the debian-newbie list would give new users 
time to prepare for the volume of debian-user.  It would also help us
to ensure that newbies are being looked after.

3. In addition to calling for package maintainers, we can also call for
volunteers to form "Topic Teams".  Each team would comprise people with
some expertise in the topic.  Hopefully people would volunteer for more
than one team.  The idea would be that you would make an extra effort to
read email and help out on those topics for which you volunteer.  Topic
teams would also be responsible for creating FAQs to answer frequently
asked questions and to solve frequently encountered problems.

4. Create some special topics that only certain people have permission to
post under.  Eg the topic [NEWS] could be restricted to Debian developers
for the dissemination of important Debian news and information. 

5. One idea put forward was that people should reply to questions
directly, not via the list.  Later, the questioner would post a summary to
the list.  While this would work sometimes, at times it is actually
helpful for the discussion to occur via the list.  I suggest that rather
than making legalistic rules about posting privately, we instead encourage
people to only post to the list when it really is useful. Get people to
think about which discussions might be better carried out in private.  We
could come up with an "Etiquette" document - listing ways people can cut
down on unneccessary posts.



The problem of the volume of this list is a difficult one.  We need better
methods of handling it, but we must be careful that in doing so we don't
damage the usefulness of the list.  The proposal I've outlined above is
the best I could come up with after thinking about the problem.

Cheers,

Mark.


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Re: splitting up the debian-user mailing list

1997-08-05 Thread George Bonser
On Tue, 5 Aug 1997, Christian Lynbech wrote:

> I like the topics idea very much, if we can get people to use it (at
> least some of the time :-). It would make it very much easier to
> filter the group, whether it is visually or automatically. And it is a
> good idea, regardless of whether the list is split or not.
> 
> However, I would to extend the proposal by adding the topics
> 
>   []
> 

I think that this is too complicated for people, particularly newbies, to
have to remember.  Remember, they probably feel timid at first anyhow in
the fear that their question is trivial and might get slammed with an RTFM
response but to then get slammed because they did not properly format the
subject line of the posting is a bit much.

What WOULD help a LOT is something that the ml.org mailing lists do.  The
list management software (I think they are using majordomo on redhat
linux) prepends an abbreviation of the list that is sending the message to
the Subject: header so that you can see at a glance which list the message
came from.  e.g. Their systalk mailing list for various administration
issues prepends [ST] to each message.  Debian might do something like [DU]
or [USER] or [HELP] so that someone quickly scanning their inbox can
choose what to respond to and what can wait till later. (I would check
help first and then chek user later).




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Re: finger daemons

1997-08-05 Thread A. M. Varon
On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Paul Miller wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> 
> I recently installed cfingerd and it doesn't work with secure home
> directories -- I noticed that adding support to open user files as root
> and then switch to nobody was *LAST* on their TODO list.  Are there any
> other finger daemons that have this support and are as good as cfingerd?
> 
> Also, thanks to all those users who tried to help me w/ cfingerd earilier
> on this list.

You could install cfingerd-1.3.2.noroot.tar.gz. Install and compile it. 
Available at your nearest sunsite mirrors worldwide.

It's basically a hacked cfingerd which enables it to run as nobody. Tested
and it, and I'm very satisfied with it. 

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Re: Migrating from Slackware to Debian?

1997-08-05 Thread Graham Hughes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

> "Kevin" == Kevin Buhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Kevin> Upgrading a Slackware system to anything (including a newer
Kevin> Slackware system) is always "absolute madness", IMHO.

Quite.  The Slackware package system is very hands-off after you
install the initial packages; I always ended up getting stuff from
prep.ai.mit.edu and installing it myself, which was always a lot of
fun.  I don't think I ever got the uninstall option to work.  Matter
of fact, managing a Slackware system at all was always a lot of fun;
at some point, I had to recompile XFree86.

OTOH, I got an immense amount of Unix experience through it.  I even
brought my system through the a.out->ELF stage without nuking and
rebooting.  I would've killed for stow, though.  (Thanks to whomever
packaged it, BTW; helps me out a bunch in my /usr/local...).

When I went to Debian, I backed up my /home directories, nuked the
partition, and installed from scratch.  There's really no better way
to do it.
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Re: splitting up the debian-user mailing list

1997-08-05 Thread Christian Lynbech
> "George" == George Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

George> On Tue, 5 Aug 1997, Christian Lynbech wrote:
>> 
>> However, I would to extend the proposal by adding the topics
>> 
>> []
>> 

George> I think that this is too complicated for people, particularly
George> newbies, to have to remember.

This is only as an option in addition to a set of "supertopics", such
as HELP, MAIL, X11 and MODEM. 

To many people asking questions about a particular item, say smail, it
shouldn't be too much of a problem.

And if we got this topic thing working, it should be a smaller matter
to add some support, at least to the more sophisticated mailers (such
as emacs), so that the MUA could prompt for the topic.


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Permissions (Was: Re: Debian-Lite : The Project)

1997-08-05 Thread Stig Sandbeck Mathisen
> "w" == wb2oyc  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

w> I wish that someone with the skills would put together a Linux
w> better suited to the single user environment where many (most?) of
w> us use our home systems.  Free from all the hassles of permissions,
w> root privelege to do this or that, etc!  Right on!

That's one of the things I like with linux.  I can do whatever I need
from my account without concerning myself with the stability of the
system.  That's exactly why "multi-user protections/permissions and
such" is a good thing.

w> I for one, get really frustrated with such things, and it really
w> ticks me off that if I ftp a file then I can't move it to some
w> directory before I unzip it or thin gs like that.

That's what /tmp is for, and I usually have root logged in at the
console, and switch to that window (or use sudo) every time I need
permission to do something to the system.

w> Everyone says don't run as root and use 'su' but damnit, some of
w> this is nuts when the machine is really only an individual's
w> workstation, or at least I think it gets in the way

sudo is much easier than su, have you tried that?


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Re: splitting up the debian-user mailing list

1997-08-05 Thread Joost Kooij
Mark Phillips wrote:
> 
> 3. In addition to calling for package maintainers, we can also call for
> volunteers to form "Topic Teams".  Each team would comprise people with
> some expertise in the topic.  Hopefully people would volunteer for more
> than one team.  The idea would be that you would make an extra effort to
> read email and help out on those topics for which you volunteer.  Topic
> teams would also be responsible for creating FAQs to answer frequently
> asked questions and to solve frequently encountered problems.

Yes, that makes sense. It would make even more sense if the actual
maintainer could be involved. Not all maintainers might have the
resources to follow all of the mailinglists, but if they're in a topic
team, then all the important information/bugs/feature requests would get
filtered out for the busy maintainer by his topic team.

Maybe it is also good to have maintainer teams for the more critical
parts of the distribution.

Whatever the outcome of the discussion, having a package that sets up a
mailfilter for these lists or places it in a local news hierarchy or
even makes it available through dwww would be nice.

Generally I think the whole idea of customizer packages is great. It
would be a major added value of debian over any other current
distribution.


Joost


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swap areas in linux

1997-08-05 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
[...]

> 
> I think you can have up to 16 swap files, and I think swap files can be up
> to 16MB each, but I'm not sure.  I was unable to create a swap file in a
> IDE-based Multiple Drives (md) RAID-0 array, but YMMV.

In the linux faq there is item 7.11:


Question 7.11.  How can I have more than 128Mb of swap ?

Use several swap partitions or swapfiles - Linux supports up to 16 swap
areas, each of up to 128Mb.

Very old kernels only supported swap area sizes up to 16Mb.


The last line probably shows where the 16MB legend comes from.  If I
read the item right, the total number of swap partitions  and swap files
summed up should be at most 16.

In the manual page of mkswap I found that swap partitions _and_
files can have a number of 1KB blocks limited by

  MINCOUNT = 10 * PAGE_SIZE / 1024
  MAXCOUNT = (PAGE_SIZE - 10) * 8 * PAGE_SIZE / 1024

For x86, which uses 4096 byte pages, this means swap areas can be
between 40KB and 130752KB (127.6875MB) in size.

Then in the swapon(2) (note the _2_) manual page, it says that for
the swapon(const char *path, int swapflags) function the following
error is defined:

   EPERM   The user is  not  the  super-user,  or  more  than
   MAX_SWAPFILES (defined to be 8 in Linux 1.3.6) are
   in use.

This means that only 8 swap areas can be used if I understand it well.
It also implies that you can use more swap areas if you recompile your
kernel, and first edit /usr/src/linux/include/linux/swap.h to raise the
value of MAX_SWAPFILES.  If this is so simple, should it then perhaps
be configurable through "make xconfig" and friends?  Maybe it would be
a good idea to put the basic info (8 swap areas, either file or
partition, between 40KB and 130752KB each, references to related manual
pages) in a more accessible place, like a manual page called "swap" in
section 5 or 8.

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Re: Debian-Lite : The Project

1997-08-05 Thread Stig Sandbeck Mathisen
> "GH" == Graham Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

GH> So that means that if I use a Debian-Lite install I can't ever upgrade
GH> to a full installation from there?  I missed the original post, but
GH> keeping a dpkg/dselect around for the eventual upgrade to full Debian
GH> (which may never occur) seems perfectly reasonable.  *Dropping* the
GH> newbie into dpkg/dselect is probably less so, but when they grow
GH> conversant I see no reason to deny them dpkg/dselect, or to force them
GH> to reinstall.

Dropping them would be a bad idea.  I think there might be easier to
make something easier to start with.  Like a program that just prompts
for the role of the computer when you install it:

What kind of workstation are you setting up?
 [ ] "normal" workstation
 [ ] Word processor (lyx/latex/emacs ... )
 [ ] X-terminal
 [ ] ...

Then behind each of these choices is a number og selected packages
which is installed.

Then tell the user that "if you want more control/configurability, you
could try the dpkg/dselect tools provided"

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Re: Which Debian bundle should I get?

1997-08-05 Thread Joost Kooij
Gonzalo A. Diethelm wrote:
> 
> OK, I'm almost ready to go for Debian 1.3.1. I would like to get a CD
> bundle with more stuff in it (like ftp sites archives). Who sells such
> a beast? I need delivery to the LA area.

In answer to several of your questions:

Get a cd from lsl or cheapbytes, from those you can install floppyless
and the cd images are sort of guaranteed to work (unlike the infomagic
images.)

install debian 1.3.whatever (1.3.2 has xfree 3.3, but not everyone is
very happy yet with that one) from the cd and toy with it. Get to know
how dselect and dpkg work and update some packages from the net with
dselect.

Libc6 is in the "unstable" distribution tree. But: do not yet install
packages from unstable. I know it has things you definately must have,
but currently it is in a rather "transitional" state. It might (probably
will) break a lot of stuff, including dpkg's system. Wait just a little
more time unstil unstable has settled and become more consistant. There
is a reason for unstable to be called unstable. You must know what you
are doing.

Have fun with debian,


Joost


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Re: finger daemons

1997-08-05 Thread Martin Schulze
A. M. Varon writes:

> > directories -- I noticed that adding support to open user files as root
> > and then switch to nobody was *LAST* on their TODO list.  Are there any
> > other finger daemons that have this support and are as good as cfingerd?
> > 
> > Also, thanks to all those users who tried to help me w/ cfingerd earilier
> > on this list.
> 
> You could install cfingerd-1.3.2.noroot.tar.gz. Install and compile it. 
> Available at your nearest sunsite mirrors worldwide.
> 
> It's basically a hacked cfingerd which enables it to run as nobody. Tested
> and it, and I'm very satisfied with it. 

But will probably not fix the problem that he seems to need a cfingerd
which opens the files as *root*.

Regards

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Re: dhpcd_0.5.16.1-2 - kernel 2.0.31?

1997-08-05 Thread Nils Rennebarth
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On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Christoph Lameter wrote:

>It looks like I have to retract that change. Linus has released another
>pre patch for 2.0.31 today without the SO_BINDTODEVICE patches. You can
>find the necessary patches at www.linuxhq.com. 
Where? I couldn't identify any of the Linux 2.0 Unofficial Patches with
the SO_BINDTODEVICE patch.

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installing Linux on a Compaq Deskpro 4000

1997-08-05 Thread Nico De Ranter

Hi,

I'm trying to install Debian on a Compaq Deskpro 4000 M5233MMX but 
I can't find out what kind of network driver to use. Did anyobdy
succeed in installing Debian with network support on this kind of machine?

Thanks in advance,

Nico

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smail problem

1997-08-05 Thread Per Eric Rosén
I have two things I want to do with smail : Spool remote , but not local
mail for later delivery , and passing remote mail through a filter that
changes some headers. How to do this ?

Currently , I have written a small inetd-running ESMTP-speaking script
that translates the headers in outgoing mail and feeds them to
/usr/sbin/sendmail , with "-Q" if needed. However , pine does not use it
always , even if told so , but uses port 25 anyway. ( Sorry if this has
happened to mail to debian-user. ) And , it doesn't look like The Right
Thing (TM). I have rtman , but not figured out really yet , and most
HOWTOs are just about sendmail.

TIA
Per Eric

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xforms

1997-08-05 Thread Magic
Hehhh... I want to install xisp and

# dpkg -i xisp_1.3-1.deb
(Reading database ... 21024 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace xisp 1.3-1 (using xisp_1.3-1.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement xisp ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of xisp:
xisp depends on xforms (>= 0.81-1); however:
Package xforms is not installed.

but...

# dpkg -l | grep xforms
ii  xforms-dev  0.81-6 GUI Toolkit for X Window Systems
ii  xforms0 0.81-6 GUI Toolkit for X Window Systems

so... where can I find xforms but not xforms0 ?
THX :)
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Re: Weird PPP problem

1997-08-05 Thread Frank Barknecht
H Huang hat gesagt: // H Huang wrote: ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> However I was unable to set up the connection using:
> 
> (3)
> pppd connect chat.sh
> 
> where chat.sh is a shell script that runs chat to make connection:
> 
> #!/bin/sh
> # my chat.sh file
> 
> /usr/sbin/chat -v blah blah blah blah
> 
> 

Is chat.sh executable? 

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Pine trouble - bugs or configuration ?

1997-08-05 Thread Per Eric Rosén
Hi !

I have some problems with pine , and don't know if it is a misconfiguration
or bugs in the program - or maybe an intended feature ;) ?

* Pine doesn't always use the specified SMTP server. I have currently an
own SMTP server on port 825 , running under inetd. Pine is configured (
globally ) to use port 825 on this host , where the SMTP server runs too.
After starting pine , the first message sent is sent to port 825 and
placed in the outbound queue or delivered ( via /usr/sbin/sendmail ).
However , the second and further messages are sent to port 25. I didn't
tell pine anything about port 25 ! I said "smtp-server=mail.rosnix:825"
and nothing else. It doesn't seems to be a problem with the server ,
because inetd doesn't log any "Aug  5 12:15:46 focus pinespoofd[24826]:
connect from focus.rosnix" but "23:15:21 focus in.smtpd[7798]: connect
from focus.rosnix". And the SMTP server seems to exit normally.  

* Mail from oneself is displayed incorrectly in the folder index. Instead
of "My Name" , it is labelled "To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]". If this is a feature , I
would like to have an option to turn if off.

* The xterm icon titles are left when pine is exited , and newmail-in-xterm
is enabled. This happens with both standard xterm and rxvt.

TIA
Per Eric


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Pine trouble - bugs or configuration ?

1997-08-05 Thread Per Eric Rosén
Hi !

I have some problems with pine , and don't know if it is a misconfiguration
or bugs in the program - or maybe an intended feature ;) ?

* Pine doesn't always use the specified SMTP server. I have currently an
own SMTP server on port 825 , running under inetd. Pine is configured (
globally ) to use port 825 on this host , where the SMTP server runs too.
After starting pine , the first message sent is sent to port 825 and
placed in the outbound queue or delivered ( via /usr/sbin/sendmail ).
However , the second and further messages are sent to port 25. I didn't
tell pine anything about port 25 ! I said "smtp-server=mail.rosnix:825"
and nothing else. It doesn't seems to be a problem with the server ,
because inetd doesn't log any "Aug  5 12:15:46 focus pinespoofd[24826]:
connect from focus.rosnix" but "23:15:21 focus in.smtpd[7798]: connect
from focus.rosnix". And the SMTP server seems to exit normally.  

* Mail from oneself is displayed incorrectly in the folder index. Instead
of "My Name" , it is labelled "To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]". If this is a feature , I
would like to have an option to turn if off.

* The xterm icon titles are left when pine is exited , and newmail-in-xterm
is enabled. This happens with both standard xterm and rxvt.

TIA
Per Eric


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Re: installing Linux on a Compaq Deskpro 4000

1997-08-05 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Nico De Ranter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

: I'm trying to install Debian on a Compaq Deskpro 4000 M5233MMX but 
: I can't find out what kind of network driver to use. Did anyobdy
: succeed in installing Debian with network support on this kind of machine?

Why don't you try "cat /proc/pci"? This could give you a hint on
what the network adapter is.

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Netscape beta install ate my bookmarks!!

1997-08-05 Thread Dave Cinege
and I was not very fucking happy about it, let me tell you.
Lucky I was able to recover 99% of them with lde and dd.

I'm not sure if it was the wrapper itself or netscape. I saw the install 
say:
Found /root/.netscape/booksmarks.html

But I have no idea what it did once it found them. Yes I should have backed
up .netscape, but I was tired and I forgot.

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Re: speed of X

1997-08-05 Thread Paul Wade

Pete,
I mentioned windows because I understand it exhibits both
problems. It doesn't use a large swap space and it can slow down with the
management overhead. I haven't noticed any difference in speed with Linux
when I give it a 128mb swap even if 20 mb is enough. In other words, a
system with only 8mb ram runs about the same as long as there is enough
swap space with Linux. Windows swapping seems to be oriented around some
ratio between physical and virtual memory.

On 4 Aug 1997, Pete Templin wrote:

> On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Paul Wade wrote:
> 
> > Linux will use a swap partition of up to 128 meg. You can add swap files
> > if you need more. I haven't heard anything about slowdowns. Maybe you're
> > thinking about windows swap usage and performance? Somebody correct me if
> > I'm wrong.
> 
> I know that Linux (or at least Debian, but this sure seems like a Linux
> issue) can use multiple swap partitions (I think up to 8, perhaps even 16,
> being up to almost 128MB each).  I had two 120M swap partitions at one
> time, but removed the second due to IDE performance problems (I had a
> cron-scheduled process that would heavily access the slave drive while
> swapping to the master drive, and due to my configuration, this was
> happening on BOTH IDE controllers at the same time.  Yuk!!!).
> 
> I think you can have up to 16 swap files, and I think swap files can be up
> to 16MB each, but I'm not sure.  I was unable to create a swap file in a
> IDE-based Multiple Drives (md) RAID-0 array, but YMMV.

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Re: splitting up the debian-user mailing list

1997-08-05 Thread jghasler
Christian Lynbech writes:
> This is only as an option in addition to a set of "supertopics", such as
> HELP, MAIL, X11 and MODEM.

They still have to understand that they must put a "supertopic" in the
"Subject:" line, figure out which one, and get it right.  This is too
complicated.  Most newbies will expect the to work like ordinary email.
They'll send off a message with a subject such as "how do I get on the
net", get it back with an incomprehensible error message, and give up.

Please create "debian-help", and change the install script to offer every
newbie a chance to subscribe.  I will subscribe to it and help when I can.
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Applixware - off topic

1997-08-05 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes
Hi,

I'm considering the possibility of getting Applixware. Could
someone who has used it give me some comments, basically because the
reader's letter I found in Linux Journal (pg 8 - issue 39 - July 97),
regarding the Review of Applixware did by LJ in April 97 issue. Quoting
the reader: "It is not quite ready to replace MS Office". 
If somebody knows another forum to ask this question, feel free to
forward it. 

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Re: splitting up the debian-user mailing list

1997-08-05 Thread Paul Wade

Yes, please create debian-help and keep it simple to use. Many of these
new users will be using whatever means they have for email access while
they try to get Debian running. I have received email that was sent from
library workstations and the like for this reason.

On 5 Aug 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Christian Lynbech writes:
> > This is only as an option in addition to a set of "supertopics", such as
> > HELP, MAIL, X11 and MODEM.
> 
> They still have to understand that they must put a "supertopic" in the
> "Subject:" line, figure out which one, and get it right.  This is too
> complicated.  Most newbies will expect the to work like ordinary email.
> They'll send off a message with a subject such as "how do I get on the
> net", get it back with an incomprehensible error message, and give up.
> 
> Please create "debian-help", and change the install script to offer every
> newbie a chance to subscribe.  I will subscribe to it and help when I can.

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Re: "KTI ET32/Px Series PCI Ethernet Adapter" support?

1997-08-05 Thread Paul Miller
The company said it wasn't ne2000 compatible.  I'll try that patch anyway.

-Paul

On Tue, 5 Aug 1997, Joost Kooij wrote:

> Paul Miller wrote:
> > 
> > I tried and messaged the company.. it is not compatible with NE2000 and
> > there is no Linux support (or even UNIX for that matter).  The NE2000/1000
> > driver thought it was a NE1000, but didnt work...
> 
> Then it probably is a ne2000. The kernel just does not recognise it.
>  
> There are two options:
> 
> - If you already have the kernel sources, but not the latest uploaded to
> debian: visit the linux ethernet homepage (don't know the url by heart,
> but it is in the ethernet-HOWTO.) Follow the link to Paul Gortmaker's
> ne2000 page and grab ne-2k-pci.diff (or whatever it's name.) Patch the
> kernel source and recompile. The card will then be recognised.
> 
> - Get the latest kernel-source-2.0.29.deb (maybe still in incoming?) It
> has the patch already applied for all us people with a ne2000 pci card
> with a chipset other than the RealTek. Recompile and all will be well.
> 
> I guess that then newest kernel-image upload will also make your card
> work, but it is always better to compile your own kernel anyway. If you
> use kernel-package (in misc) there is really nothing to it. 
> 
> May the source be with you,
> 
> 
> Joost
> 
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Re: Applixware - off topic

1997-08-05 Thread Shaya Potter
On Tue, 5 Aug 1997, Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote:

> Hi,
> 
>   I'm considering the possibility of getting Applixware. Could
> someone who has used it give me some comments, basically because the
> reader's letter I found in Linux Journal (pg 8 - issue 39 - July 97),
> regarding the Review of Applixware did by LJ in April 97 issue. Quoting
> the reader: "It is not quite ready to replace MS Office". 
>   If somebody knows another forum to ask this question, feel free
> to forward it. []s,

I've been using a beta of Word Perfect7 for the past few weeks, and it
seems, at least to me, to be just as good as the Word Perfect for windows.
It also doesn't need Motif.  I think it might be statically linked.

$ ldd xwp
libXt.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x4000b000)
libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x4004d000)
libXpm.so.4 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 (0x400eb000)
libm.so.5 => /lib/libm.so.5 (0x400f8000)
libc.so.5 => /lib/libc.so.5 (0x40101000)
libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x401bd000)
libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x401c6000)

Shaya


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Looking for Talk - HOWTO

1997-08-05 Thread Frank Barknecht

I have a question concerning talk. I would like to talk with a friend
if he and I are online.
We both connect to the net via ppp.

My friend gets my IP-number, say by e-Mail.

Now he could talk to me by "talk [EMAIL PROTECTED], right?
If he tries this, I can see a connect message in my xconsole like
>---
Aug  5 14:52:42 fliwatut in.talkd[3207]: connect from foo.foo.org
>   ^^^
my hostname here

But I don't get a 
"Talk requested by"-message on any terminal I am logged in.

So my question is:
How can I be talked at my local Debian-machine??


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Re: Netscape beta install ate my bookmarks!!

1997-08-05 Thread Rick Macdonald
On Tue, 5 Aug 1997, Dave Cinege wrote:

> Lucky I was able to recover 99% of them with lde and dd.
> 
> I'm not sure if it was the wrapper itself or netscape. I saw the install 
> say:
> Found /root/.netscape/booksmarks.html
> 
> But I have no idea what it did once it found them. Yes I should have backed
> up .netscape, but I was tired and I forgot.

I've never used the wrapper (or made a backup of ~/.netscape). I've always
just installed netscape myself into /usr/local, and never lost my
bookmarks. Oh, I've never installed it as root, either.

I'm currently running the latest 4.02b7.

...RickM...


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pine pgp/public keys

1997-08-05 Thread Paul Miller
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Is it possible to finger the sender's address if their key isn't on the
local keyring?  and/or finger a key server..?

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52F46JaQvLZv6eTJ9FDiB6roAgZ14mL4amfpvoyJLiih0rtmjgQchSgSTESVsa/A
uIHum8Ud+rDEHNqPVV4SZTM5u7OdgHsz
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Re: Looking for Talk - HOWTO

1997-08-05 Thread Igor Grobman
> 
> I have a question concerning talk. I would like to talk with a friend
> if he and I are online.
> We both connect to the net via ppp.
> 
> My friend gets my IP-number, say by e-Mail.
> 
> Now he could talk to me by "talk [EMAIL PROTECTED], right?
> If he tries this, I can see a connect message in my xconsole like
> >---
>   Aug  5 14:52:42 fliwatut in.talkd[3207]: connect from foo.foo.org
> >   ^^^
>   my hostname here
> 
> But I don't get a 
> "Talk requested by"-message on any terminal I am logged in.
> 
> So my question is:
> How can I be talked at my local Debian-machine??


You need to set your hostname to the one that resolves  into your ip address.  
For example node32.yourprovider.com  This can be done by modifying /etc/hosts 
each time you connect, or by using hostname command (and running it as root).  
Running 'hostname node32.yourprovider.com' will set your default hostname to 
the above.


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trouble with SBPCD CDROM:

1997-08-05 Thread Pat Masterson
 I did an floppy disk install of 2.0.29, and things went well. But, I 
cant get my Creative Labs CD to mount. The sbpcd module detects the CD at 
230 (IT actually lists 4 IDs for it), then records all kinds of errors, 
and quits. So, now I cant run dselect. I've even tried running linux from 
a dos prompt to avoid resetting the CD, but it didnt help. 
 This is a soundblaster double speed CD running off the sound card. It 
works fine under DOS, I can read all the Debian files on it.
 Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. -Pat

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Re: Distributing a procmail filter (was: Re: splitting up the...)

1997-08-05 Thread Richard G. Roberto
On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Brandon Mitchell wrote:

> 
> I've been trying to get in touch with the c.o.l.a. moderator (I'm pretty 
> sure that's who it was) to get permission to add a modified version of 
> his procmail filter to /usr/doc/procmail/examples.  It includes things 
> like blacklist, whitelist, vacation, newsgroup filters, etc.  However, I 
> haven't had a response so I may just send it to the procmail maintainer 
> to see what he/she thinks.

This is rediculous.  First of all, I get my mail from a POP3
server on some system somewhere I don't even have access to.
There's no way for me to filter incoming mail.  I have to
download all of it first -- and its costs a helluva lot more
to connect here than it does in the heart land.

Second of all, requiring newbies to use procmail filters
just to get help is totally unreasonable.  I think if they
can figure out procmail, they don't need much help in the
first place.

> 
> > Another idea/question - can a filter explode messages from
> > debian-user-digest?
> 
> There's a debian package for this, try looking through the packages file 
> for digest.  I know I've seen it before.

If you happen to have procmail installed, there's a binary
in the package called formail.  From the man page:

EXAMPLES
   To split up a digest one usually uses:
  formail +1 -ds >>the_mailbox_of_your_choice
   or
  formail +1 -ds procmail

The former is safe as long as your sure there won't be
anything else writing to the "mailbox_of_your_choice" file
at the same time.  Incidentally, I think the second example
should be a pipe, e.g.:

  formail +1 -ds | procmail

and this would require having a working procmail
configuration.  I don't know anything about any digest
specific package, but it may be simpler if you're not sure
about the race condition issue.  I do this currently and
dump it into a file that nothing would possibly write to,
then I read it as a folder in pine.

Case in point?  Debian-* may be the first mailing list(s) in
history that you need to _learn_ how to read (the mailing
list, not the words -- of course you'd have to know how to 
read those too!)

Cheers,

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X Error: xpaint & vgen

1997-08-05 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes


Hi,

I'm getting the following anoying error when executing some
functions of xpaint e vgen programs:

X Error of failed request:  BadPixmap (invalid Pixmap parameter)
  Major opcode of failed request:  54 (X_FreePixmap)
  Resource id in failed request:  0x0
  Serial number of failed request:  32677
  Current serial number in output stream:  32833

Does somebody know what/where is the problem?
I'm using Debian 1.3.1 and the following libs, among others:

xpm4.7
xpm4.7-dev
libtiff3
libjpeg6a
libjpeg6a-dev
libpng1
zlib1
xlib6-dev
xaw3d
xcompat
xslib
xlib6

Thanks,

[]s,
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UGENT: uucp log errors

1997-08-05 Thread Paul Miller
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

uuxqt - - (..time..) ERROR: creat (TMP0d98): Permission denied

This just started happening lately.. The only thing I've installed is
dosemu.66.7-1, dosfstools1.0-9, mtools3.6-1, and slang.99.38_.99.38-2.6..
one of these programs must have changed some access permissions
somewhere.. I already fixed it so it had access to the log files..  I need
to get this fix asap because the log file can get over 8 megs each time it
runs...

- -Paul

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dixePxNaMm/fgnU+90Xj+Sck4ikuwqU8mxurh4Yn84KN/rpSjmODJZd3Z7p67eJY
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Linux box as NFS server

1997-08-05 Thread Partha Narasimhan
Hi,
My home directory is on a Debian box and gets NFS mounted on
all other machines. I have noticed that on Solaris clients
I get the following message on the console whenever my disk
partition is mounted

automountd: No network locking on bounty : contact admin to install
server change

On other Linux boxes, there is no such warning.
I do not have 'mandatory file locking' option turned on in the kernel.
Should I do it? Will it solve this problem?
Is this really a problem at all or just a harmless warning (whatever
that means)?

Thanks,
partha




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Re: Distributing a procmail filter (was: Re: splitting up the...)

1997-08-05 Thread Clint Adams
> at the same time.  Incidentally, I think the second example
> should be a pipe, e.g.:
> 
>   formail +1 -ds | procmail

The pipe is unnecessary.


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Re: installing Linux on a Compaq Deskpro 4000

1997-08-05 Thread Peter S Galbraith

> I'm trying to install Debian on a Compaq Deskpro 4000 M5233MMX but 
> I can't find out what kind of network driver to use. Did anyobdy
> succeed in installing Debian with network support on this kind of machine?

The Compaq should use a Compaq Netelligent 10/100 TX PCI UTP network
adapter.

It is supported by a beta driver written by James Banks at Caldera.

 ftp://ftp.caldera.com/pub/stuff/tlan-0.29.tar.gz

I have downloaded it and install/load it as a module.

$ insmod tlan

Works!
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auctex crashes emacs

1997-08-05 Thread Alvin Birdi


Dear all

The latest version of auctex (9.7n-2) supplied with Debian 3.1 crashes
emacs when it searches for files in the LaTeX directory tree.

Specifically, if TeX-insert-macro (C-x C-m) is used and then one
enters `usepackage', auctex signals that it is "Searching for files"
and crashes. The same happens with the macro `insert'. Previous
versions worked fine (with old versions of Debian). One should receive
a "Package:" interactive prompt. Since I am an habitual user of this
macro, I inadvertently crash emacs every hour or so!

Any ideas? Is this an auctex problem or an emacs problem? It happens
as root as well so that I am convinced it is not a directory
permissions problem.

Alvin

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qmail

1997-08-05 Thread Bruno O. M. Simoes
Hi there
I took this file in www.qmail.org and doesn't seem to work: 
taz# tar -xzf qmail-1_01_tar.gz
tar: Skipping to next file header

gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--crc error
I couldn't descompress it.
Does someone know either if there's a debian package compiled qmail or what
meant this error above?
Thanks in advance
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Re: dhpcd_0.5.16.1-2 - kernel 2.0.31?

1997-08-05 Thread Christoph Lameter
2.0.31-pre2 for example

On Tue, 5 Aug 1997, Nils Rennebarth wrote:

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>
>>It looks like I have to retract that change. Linus has released another
>>pre patch for 2.0.31 today without the SO_BINDTODEVICE patches. You can
>>find the necessary patches at www.linuxhq.com. 
>Where? I couldn't identify any of the Linux 2.0 Unofficial Patches with
>the SO_BINDTODEVICE patch.
>
>Nils
>
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SO_BINDTODEVICE patch for 2.0.30

1997-08-05 Thread Christoph Lameter
Due to popular demand here a post of the SO_BINDTODEVICE patch. It will
enable the dhcpd package for Debian to serve multiple Network Cards.

Patch and more information can be found at:

http://gunpowder.Stanford.EDU/software/LinuxChanges.html

On Tue, 5 Aug 1997, Trent Johnson wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Could you send me a copy of the so_bindtodevice patch.  Am I correct in
>think that this patch will allow me to run a dhcp server that servers
>networks on two different ethernet cards?
>
>Trent

--- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ --- +++ ---
diff -u -r linux/drivers/net/new_tunnel.c 
linux-modified/drivers/net/new_tunnel.c
--- linux/drivers/net/new_tunnel.c  Sun Mar 24 02:47:39 1996
+++ linux-modified/drivers/net/new_tunnel.c Fri May  2 10:48:35 1997
@@ -161,7 +161,7 @@
 *  routing tables
 */
iph = (struct iphdr *) skb->data;
-   if ((rt = ip_rt_route(iph->daddr, 0)) == NULL)
+   if ((rt = ip_rt_route(iph->daddr, 0, 
skb->sk?skb->sk->bound_device:NULL)) == NULL)
{ 
/* No route to host */
/* Where did the packet come from? */
@@ -194,7 +194,7 @@
}
ip_rt_put(rt);
 
-   if ((rt = ip_rt_route(target, 0)) == NULL)
+   if ((rt = ip_rt_route(target, 0, skb->sk?skb->sk->bound_device:NULL)) 
== NULL)
{ 
/* No route to host */
/* Where did the packet come from? */
diff -u -r linux/include/asm-i386/socket.h 
linux-modified/include/asm-i386/socket.h
--- linux/include/asm-i386/socket.h Sun Mar 24 02:47:39 1996
+++ linux-modified/include/asm-i386/socket.hWed Apr 16 12:25:57 1997
@@ -22,4 +22,6 @@
 #define SO_BSDCOMPAT   14
 /* To add :#define SO_REUSEPORT 15 */
 
+#define SO_BINDTODEVICE 25
+
 #endif /* _ASM_SOCKET_H */
diff -u -r linux/include/linux/route.h linux-modified/include/linux/route.h
--- linux/include/linux/route.h Tue Oct  8 09:48:40 1996
+++ linux-modified/include/linux/route.hThu Apr 17 15:54:24 1997
@@ -52,6 +52,7 @@
 #define RTF_WINDOW 0x0080  /* per route window clamping  */
 #define RTF_IRTT   0x0100  /* Initial round trip time*/
 #define RTF_REJECT 0x0200  /* Reject route   */
+#define RTF_NOTCACHED  0x0400  /* this route isn't cached*/
 
 /*
  * This structure is passed from the kernel to user space by netlink
diff -u -r linux/include/net/route.h linux-modified/include/net/route.h
--- linux/include/net/route.h   Fri Mar 28 16:10:57 1997
+++ linux-modified/include/net/route.h  Tue Apr 22 14:46:46 1997
@@ -13,6 +13,7 @@
  * Alan Cox:   Reformatted. Added ip_rt_local()
  * Alan Cox:   Support for TCP parameters.
  * Alexey Kuznetsov:   Major changes for new routing code.
+ *  Elliot Poger:   Added support for SO_BINDTODEVICE.
  *
  * FIXME:
  * Make atomic ops more generic and hide them in asm/...
@@ -83,7 +84,7 @@
 extern voidip_rt_flush(struct device *dev);
 extern voidip_rt_update(int event, struct device *dev);
 extern voidip_rt_redirect(__u32 src, __u32 dst, __u32 gw, struct 
device *dev);
-extern struct rtable   *ip_rt_slow_route(__u32 daddr, int local);
+extern struct rtable   *ip_rt_slow_route(__u32 daddr, int local, struct device 
*dev);
 extern int rt_get_info(char * buffer, char **start, off_t offset, 
int length, int dummy);
 extern int rt_cache_get_info(char *buffer, char **start, off_t 
offset, int length, int dummy);
 extern int ip_rt_ioctl(unsigned int cmd, void *arg);
@@ -131,9 +132,9 @@
 #endif
 
 #ifdef CONFIG_KERNELD
-extern struct rtable * ip_rt_route(__u32 daddr, int local);
+extern struct rtable * ip_rt_route(__u32 daddr, int local, struct device *dev);
 #else
-extern __inline__ struct rtable * ip_rt_route(__u32 daddr, int local)
+extern __inline__ struct rtable * ip_rt_route(__u32 daddr, int local, struct 
device *dev)
 #ifndef MODULE
 {
struct rtable * rth;
@@ -142,7 +143,8 @@
 
for (rth=ip_rt_hash_table[ip_rt_hash_code(daddr)^local]; rth; 
rth=rth->rt_next)
{
-   if (rth->rt_dst == daddr)
+   /* If an interface is specified, make sure this route points to 
it. */
+   if ( (rth->rt_dst == daddr) && ((dev==NULL) || 
(dev==rth->rt_dev)) )
{
rth->rt_lastuse = jiffies;
atomic_inc(&rth->rt_use);
@@ -151,23 +153,23 @@
return rth;
}
}
-   return ip_rt_slow_route (daddr, local);
+   return ip_rt_slow_route (daddr, local, dev);
 }
 #else
 ;
 #endif
 #endif
 
-extern __inline__ struct rtable * ip_check_route(struct rtable ** rp,
-  __u32 daddr, int local)
+extern __inline__ struct rtable * ip_check_route(struct rtable ** rp, __u32 
daddr, 
+ 

3com 3c503 jumper settings for shared memory

1997-08-05 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
I don't remember who (or even if it was someone in *this* list) who
asked about this, but here's the info about 3com 3c503 jumper settings
so you can rejumper your card for shared memory operation.

Actually, it looks like the info you need is printed on the board.
There are two blocks of jumpers. One's a set of 8, and is used to set
the IO base address, and should say 2e0,2a0,280,250,350,330,310,300
and the other set's the memory base address for shared memory and should
be labeled disable,c8000,cc000,d8000,dc000 (five jumper positions).
Just set the memory jumper to one of the available addresses (as long
as it doesn't conflict with the shared mem for some other device), and
off you go!

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Re: Debian-Lite : The Project

1997-08-05 Thread Kai Grossjohann
> On 05 Aug 1997, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen said:

  SSM> What kind of workstation are you setting up?
  SSM>  [ ] "normal" workstation
  SSM>  [ ] Word processor (lyx/latex/emacs ... )
  SSM>  [ ] X-terminal
  SSM>  [ ] ...

As I read this, the Deity project is developing something that has
this capability.  The URL was mentioned earlier in this thread:

http://www.verisim.com/~behanw/deity/deity-ui_0.10.html

See Section 6 "Profile Screens".

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Debian-Desktop

1997-08-05 Thread Alec Clews
The work I promised to deliver by Monday is not yet complete :-(.

I should be able to post it tomorrow and as it will just be a long
boring list of package names I propose to put on my web site. More info
to follow

If Deity supports profiles  then the effort will be reduced to
1) Creating profiles
2) Creating tools to extract files required to install a specific
profile.

Anyone have an inside track on the Deity delivery schedule?

Regards,
Alec
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Re: Distributing a procmail filter (was: Re: splitting up the...)

1997-08-05 Thread Martin Schulze
On Aug 5, Richard G. Roberto wrote
> On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Brandon Mitchell wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I've been trying to get in touch with the c.o.l.a. moderator (I'm pretty 
> > sure that's who it was) to get permission to add a modified version of 
> > his procmail filter to /usr/doc/procmail/examples.  It includes things 
> > like blacklist, whitelist, vacation, newsgroup filters, etc.  However, I 
> > haven't had a response so I may just send it to the procmail maintainer 
> > to see what he/she thinks.

I'd appreciate it having liw's procmailrc as an example.  One can learn
much from it.

> This is rediculous.  First of all, I get my mail from a POP3
> server on some system somewhere I don't even have access to.

I thought using popmail every mail is been piped through the local
MTA - in that case you're able to use any filtering.  If not you
might get in touch with your provider in order to get a shell
account on that machine.

> Case in point?  Debian-* may be the first mailing list(s) in
> history that you need to _learn_ how to read (the mailing
> list, not the words -- of course you'd have to know how to 
> read those too!)

Haha :-)

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Apache 1.1 docs

1997-08-05 Thread Roderick Schertler
I've switched the web server here from Freebsd to bo, and in the process
from Apache 1.2 to 1.1.  Does anyone know if it's possible to get a copy
of the old 1.1 Apache docs?  They aren't distributed with the source and
the current docs on the web page don't document all of the differences
between 1.2 and 1.1.

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memory usage

1997-08-05 Thread Paul Miller
[I have 64 RAM (EDO) and 64 swap]

When I have the 'xosview' program up, it says that 97% of my memory is
used and 0% swap.  Of the memory about 40% is 'used' 55% is 'shared' and
1% is 'buffered'
What does this mean?  Am I short on ram?  When I open netscape, and all
six StarOffice programs (writer,calc,draw,math,image,chart) mem reads
about 1% used, 97% shared and 0% buffered.  swap reads 8% used.. whats
the deal here?  what does 'shared' memory mean?

-Paul


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Word Perfect (was: Re: Applixware - off topic)

1997-08-05 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Tue, 5 Aug 1997, Shaya Potter wrote:
> I've been using a beta of Word Perfect7 for the past few weeks, and it
> seems, at least to me, to be just as good as the Word Perfect for windows.
> It also doesn't need Motif.  I think it might be statically linked.

I tried the beta but it expired after only a few days (I think it was
supposed to last for at least 30, but it didn't.)

It is practically IDENTICAL to the Win95 version.  One problem I noticed
(common to all WordPerfect versions I have tried, including 5.1 and 6.0
under dosemu)  is that configuring a PostScript printer and sending the
output to Ghostscript 4.0x results in errors (fortunately after the job
prints correctly).  Ghostscript 3.x didn't do this (maybe 5.0 fixes it--I
haven't tried that).

They finally announced the price: $199, $149 for upgrade/tradeup.  This is
much less than other unices, and comparable with the list price for Win95
tradeups, however Win 95 has the full suite (I've seen version 8 for under
$100 upgrade).

Bob


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Debian mail filtering in Netscape 4.02

1997-08-05 Thread Rick Macdonald
In order to deal with the high volume of traffic on this list, I just
tried turning on the mail filtering in Netscape 4.02 (Solaris24) but it
doesn't seem to do anything.

Has anybody tried this?

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Re: xforms

1997-08-05 Thread Kevin Traas
Just to let you know - I'm having the same problem.  I'm installing off LSL
"Official" Debian 1.3.1 CDROM set.

Anyone with a solution?

Thanks,

Kevin Traas   Baan Business Systems
Systems Analyst  Langley, BC, Canada
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  (604) 882-8169

 >Hehhh... I want to install xisp and
>
># dpkg -i xisp_1.3-1.deb
>(Reading database ... 21024 files and directories currently installed.)
>Preparing to replace xisp 1.3-1 (using xisp_1.3-1.deb) ...
>Unpacking replacement xisp ...
>dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of xisp:
>xisp depends on xforms (>= 0.81-1); however:
>Package xforms is not installed.
>
>but...
>
># dpkg -l | grep xforms
>ii  xforms-dev  0.81-6 GUI Toolkit for X Window Systems
>ii  xforms0 0.81-6 GUI Toolkit for X Window Systems
>
>so... where can I find xforms but not xforms0 ?




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diald and netscape - unwanted connections

1997-08-05 Thread Oliver Elphick
I run diald for connection to my ISP, using dynamically-assigned IP
addresses.

I run Netscape 3.01, and Apache (but only for running dwww; not as
an external server.)

When I have been browsing out of my own domain, and shut down Netscape,
unwanted connections appear on the connection queue and cause the
modem connection to be kept up.  They do not appear before Netscape is
terminated.

The current example says:

tcp163.1.0.9/80194.72.196.110/12321

and was started with 2 minutes TTL.

(163.1.0.9 is www.exeter.ox.ac.uk, whose site I was looking at 10
hours before I exited Netscape; the other address is (I think) a dynamic
IP address which a previous session must have used.)

As soon as one of these expires, a new one gets started, so I have had to
block connections until it gives up and goes away completely, which
takes 15 minutes or more.

It is evident that Netscape is somehow responsible, but it is not running!
I cannot find out what process is doing this.  Can anyone suggest what
it is or how to find out?
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1997-08-05 Thread Scott K. Ellis
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On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Rick Macdonald wrote:

> On Tue, 5 Aug 1997, Scott K. Ellis wrote:
> > Established bug in bash-2.00.  The solution would be to upgrade to
> > bash-2.01, but that is a libc6-based release available only in unstable,
> > so it will be a little more trouble.  Check the archive for postings on
> > installing libc6 and the new libraries required for bash.
> 
> Yikes! After my fiasco, I'd be inclined to get the bash sources and
> compile myself with libc5 on 1.3.1.

My best suggestion is to pull the source package from the debian archives
and build it from there.  It shouldn't be too much trouble to do so.

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Re: Distributing a procmail filter (was: Re: splitting up the...)

1997-08-05 Thread Brandon Mitchell
[ I'm starting to think we need another list for this thread. ]
On Tue, 5 Aug 1997, Richard G. Roberto wrote:

> On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Brandon Mitchell wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I've been trying to get in touch with the c.o.l.a. moderator (I'm pretty 
> > sure that's who it was) to get permission to add a modified version of 
> > his procmail filter to /usr/doc/procmail/examples.  It includes things 
> > like blacklist, whitelist, vacation, newsgroup filters, etc.  However, I 
> > haven't had a response so I may just send it to the procmail maintainer 
> > to see what he/she thinks.
> 
> This is rediculous.  First of all, I get my mail from a POP3
> server on some system somewhere I don't even have access to.
> There's no way for me to filter incoming mail.  I have to
> download all of it first -- and its costs a helluva lot more
> to connect here than it does in the heart land.
> 
> Second of all, requiring newbies to use procmail filters
> just to get help is totally unreasonable.  I think if they
> can figure out procmail, they don't need much help in the
> first place.

I believe you have mis-read what I have said.  I'm personally in favor of 
a debian newbie.  I'm working on a debian news, and will post an example 
as a request for comments by the end of this week.  I don't want 500 
messages per day that I have to sort through with procmail.  The 
reference to procmail that I was making was to have experienced users 
that wanted to supscribe to all list automatically filter out cross 
post.  The theory that splitting up the splitting up the mailing list 
into 2 will actually result in 2/3 the original mail (1/3 on each), not 
4/3 (2/3 on each) that would happen if crosspost were not filtered out.

Please give me a counter example not to want debian-newbie:
1) the name isn't that bad, they've used it on the linux list.
2) volume will decrease if cross post are filtered out.
3) newbies get a low volume list (at least for a while, linux-newbie got 
   pretty bad).
4) gurus get a low volume list, no more scanning through newbie stuff.
5) newbies know where to post.  When you start asking questions the 
   newbies can't answer (or any of the gurus that follow deb-newbie), you 
   move on to debian-user.

Why I don't like question, reply to sender, summary format:
1) some questions need to be discussed in public.
2) newbies will still ask questions, and this format will just confuse them.
3) some don't post summaries.

Why I don't like the topics in the subject lines:
1) you still have to put up with a load of messages per day (as Richard 
   pointed out).
2) newbies can easially set up filters to deal with this volume.

I do agree with the periodic mailing list faq.  If it's posted bi-weekly, 
and also on the web page (with a link at the mailing list section and in 
the documentation), I think newbies will read before posting.

This is not a slam on newbies.  We were all newbies at one point, and 
until we work something out, they have nowhere else to go.

Brandon


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Re: qmail

1997-08-05 Thread Mike Schmitz
On Aug 5, Bruno O. M. Simoes wrote
> Hi there
> I took this file in www.qmail.org and doesn't seem to work: 
>   taz# tar -xzf qmail-1_01_tar.gz
>   tar: Skipping to next file header
> 
>   gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--crc error
> I couldn't descompress it.
> Does someone know either if there's a debian package compiled qmail or what

There is a debian package for qmail in experimental. 

> meant this error above?

I have seen this error when I downloaded using a windows ftp client and did
not make sure I was in binary mode.

> Thanks in advance
> Bruno
> 
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Display shutdown on laptop

1997-08-05 Thread John Barrar
I am installing 1.3.1 on a Micron XPE laptop and during the boot, I get a 
kernel panic and the display shuts off.  If I CTRL-ALT-DEL, it comes back 
on and SIGKILL is sent to all processes and the reboot follows.  Any ideas? 
 I shut off power management, but that didn't help.

Thanks,

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Fw: xforms

1997-08-05 Thread Kevin Traas
>Howdy!
>
>I've not taken a look at this particular package, but I think I can help...
>>
>> Just to let you know - I'm having the same problem.  I'm installing off
LSL
>> "Official" Debian 1.3.1 CDROM set.
>>
>> Anyone with a solution?
>>
>
>Looks like xforms0 should have a Provides: xforms line in it's control
file.
>The easiest way around this is to use the --force-depends option to dpkg.
>
>checkout dpkg --help for the specifics.
>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Kevin Traas   Baan Business Systems
>> Systems Analyst  Langley, BC, Canada
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  (604) 882-8169
>>
>>  >Hehhh... I want to install xisp and
>> >
>> ># dpkg -i xisp_1.3-1.deb
>> >(Reading database ... 21024 files and directories currently installed.)
>> >Preparing to replace xisp 1.3-1 (using xisp_1.3-1.deb) ...
>> >Unpacking replacement xisp ...
>> >dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of xisp:
>> >xisp depends on xforms (>= 0.81-1); however:
>> >Package xforms is not installed.
>> >
>> >but...
>> >
>> ># dpkg -l | grep xforms
>> >ii  xforms-dev  0.81-6 GUI Toolkit for X Window Systems
>> >ii  xforms0 0.81-6 GUI Toolkit for X Window Systems
>> >
>> >so... where can I find xforms but not xforms0 ?
>>
>
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General min/max questions

1997-08-05 Thread Shaleh
I will be using my Debian machine as a workstation.  No outside access
will be needed and my only networking will be through PPP.  I intend to
run X and basically tinker, surf, program, and enjoy not using Microsoft
products.  My questions is --> what can I do to minimize my memory/cpu
use and maximize my machines potential??  Would using a different getty
help; are there daemons running that I do not need since I am not a
server?  I have a 150+ and 64M of RAM plus a 96M swap area, running IDE
because my family still wants Win95 and I am a poor college student.


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dselect bug?

1997-08-05 Thread Shaleh
When I run dselect lately I am running it off of my CheapBytes CD (boots
and all -- love it).  When I tell dselect to use my CDROM as the source
and then start giving it directories on the stable step after entering
the dir and pressing enter part of the script appears (something
involving find) and then the script goes to the next step.  It works it
just looks odd.


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oracle & debian questions

1997-08-05 Thread David Oswald
Hello all...

We are investigating the possibility and options for accessing our
existing oracle database running on an HP9000 from a Debian server. We
would be interested in generating apache web page related reports...
that would utilize SQLNET and SQLPLUS or equivalents. 

Are there any utilities available under the gnu license that will enable
to me generate SQL commands/queries from my Debian box over to my big
old HP 9000/oracle machine ???

Could all responses please be forwarded directly to me, as well as to
the group. I often dont get all the messages within the debian user
digest (possibly a CC:mail problem).


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Re: Distributing a procmail filter (was: Re: splitting up the...)

1997-08-05 Thread Paul Wade

The word 'newbie' just plain sucks, but why not use it anyway? We can even
think of ways to 'haze' them until they are considered part of the elite!

I use procmail to meet my needs, not because it is required. Some
unfortunate user who is trying to install Debian because we told him it
was better than slackware doesn't have ppp working. He sends mail to a
debian list using his mother's palmtop (windows-CE) or webTV. Obviously he
needs help so he can get his personal hardware operational. Why not keep
it simple? He sends mail to debian-help and checks his pop3 mailbox to see
whether the cavalry will come to his rescue or not.

After we get him up and running, he can participate in other discussions
and hear about the pros and cons of emacs, which mta to use, the perfect
procmail setup, and the like.

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lynx/slang

1997-08-05 Thread Paul Miller
Is there a package of lynx compiled w/ slang 0.99.38 instead of .34?  Or
is there a way I can get both of them working together?

-Paul


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Re: oracle & debian questions

1997-08-05 Thread Eloy A. Paris
I don't remember well but if I remember well Openlink software makes
some kind of drivers for Linux that allow access to several different
databases. I believe the driver can be used for one or two
connections without requiring to buy a license. I think I read
this in an ad in the Linux Journal.

E.-

David Oswald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Hello all...

: We are investigating the possibility and options for accessing our
: existing oracle database running on an HP9000 from a Debian server. We
: would be interested in generating apache web page related reports...
: that would utilize SQLNET and SQLPLUS or equivalents. 

: Are there any utilities available under the gnu license that will enable
: to me generate SQL commands/queries from my Debian box over to my big
: old HP 9000/oracle machine ???

: Could all responses please be forwarded directly to me, as well as to
: the group. I often dont get all the messages within the debian user
: digest (possibly a CC:mail problem).


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Re: How I fixed my trashed Debian system

1997-08-05 Thread Dima
>>Rick Macdonald wrote:

 >OK. If this helps just one person I think it's worth typing up. I welcome
 >any suggestions of things I may have missed fixing or cleaning up.
 >
 >My system has been up-to-date with unstable for over a year and a half
 >without problems. I stopped making updates a few weeks ago when Bruce said
 >that it wasn't in a working state due to the ongoing conversion to libc6.
...

FWIW, my box has been in sync with unstable since [never released] debian-1.0
and it still is, including libc6-dev stuff.  At the moment you need to put
3 packages on hold for this to work:
libc5-5.4.33-[>3],
locales,
libgdbm1.
I think you can't install libgdbmg1 without upgrading libgdbm1 first, so
this has to go, too.
(I was able to fix my box by manually downgrading the 2 libraries. Note
that I was upgrading only a handful of packages, so it didn't exactly look 
like all hell broke loose;  the box worked except for perl.)

As usual, this works for me, YMMV.

Hope this helps somebody.

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Re: Applixware - off topic

1997-08-05 Thread Sam Ockman
Message from Mario Olimpio de Menezes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 8-5-97:
> Hi,
> 
>   I'm considering the possibility of getting Applixware. Could
> someone who has used it give me some comments, basically because the
> reader's letter I found in Linux Journal (pg 8 - issue 39 - July 97),
> regarding the Review of Applixware did by LJ in April 97 issue. Quoting
> the reader: "It is not quite ready to replace MS Office". 
>   If somebody knows another forum to ask this question, feel free to
> forward it.   

Having some experience with both, I would look at Staroffice before
Applixware.  Staroffice is much more similar to Office 95 then Applixware
is.

Good luck...
Sam


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