Re: XFree86 on potato

[Taro Fukunaga]

What are the nodes that I have to make and how do I make them? If the 
nodes aren't too hard to make, why aren't they in the debian package? 
(In other words, why is Potato broken when it is supposed to be a stable 
distro?)


Fortunately my system is still running.

-- Taro

Ethan Benson wrote:


On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 07:43:35AM -0800, Taro Fukunaga wrote:



- I debianized (using alien) the dev rpm that made a device called
adbmouse. Then I edited /etc/X11/XF86Config so that the mouse device was 
adbmouse.


DO NOT use the dev rpm, aliened or not, IT WILL RUIN YOUR SYSTEM!
someone already made that mistake earlier and had to use boot floppies
to recover.  its not that hard to use mknod to create the handfull of
nodes you need.  

Re: XFree86 on potato

[Taro Fukunaga]

I ran MAKEDEV generic-powerpc after rpm -e'ing the dev RPM. This created 
the devices I needed to run X and use the mouse, which is /dev/adbmouse. 
/etc/X11/XFree86Config looks like:


Section "Pointer"
  Protocol "BusMouse"
  Device "/dev/adbmouse"
  ...

Taro

Michael Schmitz wrote:


adbmouse. Then I edited /etc/X11/XF86Config so that the mouse device was 
adbmouse.


DO NOT use the dev rpm, aliened or not, IT WILL RUIN YOUR SYSTEM!
someone already made that mistake earlier and had to use boot floppies
to recover.  its not that hard to use mknod to create the handfull of
nodes you need.  


mknod /dev/adbmouse c 10 10 should do it. BTW: adbmouse is deprecated and
should not be uses together with the new input layer. Use /dev/input/mice
(c 13 63) instead.

Michael





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Re: XF86 Problem Solved & Desktop Question

[Taro Fukunaga]

Nick Henderson wrote:


Ok, I got X to work.  I reinstalled the
xserver-xfree86 package and selected [EMAIL PROTECTED],
rather then 60.

So X is now working and I would like to install KDE or
gnome.  Using apt-get for task-kde or
task-gnome-desktop does not work.  It says that some
of the packages cannot be installed.  Any ideas?

Thanks again,
Nick Henderson



Can you use any window managers like fvwm? Do you have enough disk 
space? Did you just install the X server or did you use 
task-x-window-system (complete)? Maybe task-kde and task-gnome-desktop 
depend on XFree86 3.3.6 being installed? You may get some more verbose 
messages regarding dependencies using dselect.


-- Taro


--- Nick Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hello,

Over the weekend I have been installing unstable on
my
Wallstreet.  Everything works up until I want to
start
up X 4.0.2.  When I "startx" or when xdm starts, the
computer crashes and I have to do a hard reboot. 
The

screen turns black, but I think that the backlight
stays on.

The XF86Config file that I am now is from this
website:
http://www.dcs.qmw.ac.uk/~sb/PowerBook/index.html

It is a config file for a Pismo, and I thought it
would work on my Wallstreet, because the machines
are
similar.

Does anybody out there have a config file that I can
use, or some advice on what I can do with my file?

Thanks,
Nick Henderson

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Re: BootX instructions (Was Re: Problem installing debian on G3 beige)

[Taro Fukunaga]

Gjermund Gusland Thorsen wrote:


I like debian the best of the linux distros... mainly because it does not taste 
like a beta, I know however that YDL is aimed at the beginner and to recrute 
MacOS users to linux.

...but on the ppc platform I find debian the hardest to reach the start of 
installation and boot off HD without BootX, the boot from HD only seems to work 
on my G4... my 7600 and G3 beige does not seem to do very well bootwise.


There is a pretty good pdf on booting various Macs in the installation 
manual from http://www.linuxppc.com that may help with your booting.


-- Taro

mutt problems sending email

[Taro Fukunaga]

I am using Potato 2.2r2 and am having problems sending email with mutt. Has
anyone experienced this? It seems that I can send email directly to myself,
but other emails fail (there is no error message, the recipients just never
receive it).

Thank you for any suggestions,

Taro


 

Re: mutt problems sending email

[Taro Fukunaga]

Ill check mailq and mail -v tonight.

This problem just happened suddenly; mutt was working fine until this week.
The only thing I've done this week that may have caused this was I installed
apache. I have not touched exim's rc file for a while and it looks
unchanged. But even after uninstalling apache the problem persists.

-- Taro


 

Re: mutt problems sending email

[Taro Fukunaga]

mailq reveals unsent messages.

There is an entry in /etc/inetd.conf for exim. This is how exim must be
started, instead of the rc scripts. So why isn't email working?

It says:

smtp stream tcp nowait mail /usr/sbin/exim exim -bs

Regards,

Taro

--Original Message--
From: Taro Fukunaga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org
Sent: February 23, 2001 11:44:41 PM GMT
Subject: Re: mutt problems sending email


Ill check mailq and mail -v tonight.

This problem just happened suddenly; mutt was working fine until this week.
The only thing I've done this week that may have caused this was I installed
apache. I have not touched exim's rc file for a while and it looks
unchanged. But even after uninstalling apache the problem persists.

-- Taro





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Re: mutt problems sending email

[Taro Fukunaga]

This is so frustrating. I had like 20 emails in my spool directory, which I
deleted. But I still can't send email.I have not touched exim's
configuration files for months so I don't know why this is happening

What is /etc/aliases file for? I ca't remember touching this, but it seems
to be part of exim's configuration. Lat two lines say:

mailer-daemon: postmaster
webmaster: root

Maybe I'll try the mutt or exim mailing list.

-- Taro

--Original Message--
From: Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org
Sent: February 24, 2001 10:03:14 AM GMT
Subject: Re: mutt problems sending email


On Sat, Feb 24, 2001 at 02:15:05AM -0500, Taro Fukunaga wrote:
> mailq reveals unsent messages.
>
> There is an entry in /etc/inetd.conf for exim. This is how exim must be
> started, instead of the rc scripts. So why isn't email working?
>
> It says:
>
> smtp stream tcp nowait mail /usr/sbin/exim exim -bs

this is only to handle incoming mail, from other hosts.  mutt does not
contact a tcp port to hand mail to the MTA, it pipes it into
/usr/sbin/sendmail (which is not necesarily the sendmail MTA).

you have some misconfiguration in exim, check its logs.  or try
postfix ;-)

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http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/


 

Re: mutt problems sending email

[Taro Fukunaga]

--Original Message--
From: Daryl DuLong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org
Sent: February 25, 2001 12:05:48 AM GMT
Subject: Re: mutt problems sending email


on 2/24/01 6:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> This is so frustrating. I had like 20 emails in my spool directory, which
I
> deleted. But I still can't send email.I have not touched exim's
> configuration files for months so I don't know why this is happening

I'll give this a shot:  When you set up Exim, did you make choice 1 or 2 (or
some other choice)?  If you chose number 1, then there is a configuration
problem within Exim.  If you chose #2, does the remote_smtp server exist?

I configured exim several months ago and don't remember which one I chose.
However, I have had to edit the config file.

I have a local network, so my computer has an IP address but is not exposed
and is not fully qualified. I am also on a dialup network which I rely on
for connecting to the internet. primary_hostname is mail.earthlink.net,
remote_smpt exists and is set to driver = smtp.I believe my original problem
that forced me to modify exim.conf was eximconfig's failure to use
mail.earthlink.net as my primary hostname. That's because my computer is not
really a mail server :-)

As I've said before, the strange thing about my configuration is that I can
send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but all other emails are not sent out,
and I can see a long list of unsent email by mailq.

> What is /etc/aliases file for? I ca't remember touching this, but it seems
> to be part of exim's configuration. Lat two lines say:
>
> mailer-daemon: postmaster
> webmaster: root

That /etc/aliases file is where you appoint aliases for e-mail users.  For
example, using the two lines you provided above, all mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] will be bounced to the postmaster.  All mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] will be bounced to root.

Cheers,
Daryl

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Senate Public Relations Committee
University of Rochester, New York

"Do not follow where the path may lead.
Go instead where there is no path and leave a trail."

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Re: mutt problems sending email

[Taro Fukunaga]

Finally I fixed this by regenerating exim.conf and editing it. Thanks
(Bto all who replied to this thread. I am not sure what was exactly wrong
(Bwith my original configuration, but the smarthost entry is definitely
(Bdifferent.
(B-- 
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Re: re adbmouse

[Taro Fukunaga]

I haven't been following this thread, but I also had problems with my
(Badb mouse when I upgraded to Potato 2.2r2.
(B
(BMy suggestion is to run the /dev/MAKEDEV script. Unlike LinuxPPC, there
(Bis no separate package to setup the devices in /dev. Instead, there is
(Bthe shell script called MAKEDEV. 
(B
(BI don't remember which option you should send to MAKEDEV. However, you
(Bcan try (as root):
(B
(B# ./MAKEDEV generic-powerpc
(B
(BOn Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 11:40:17AM +, N Cohen wrote:
(B> Ethan many thanks for your reply to my adbmouse. I am a complete 
(B> newbie to linux and to Debian in particular. I have successfully 
(B> installed PPC2000 and Suse on my other machines both Macs. I wanted 
(B> to use Debian because I want to understand the processes of Linux. 
(B> Simply changing the  symlink as you suggested does not work. I also 
(B> changed my protocols of PS/2, to BusMouse, and also tried IMPS/2 ( I 
(B> also changed my mouse from an Apple adbmouse to a Microspeed 
(B> trackball but made no difference. I do appreciate your help in this 
(B> problem
(B> 
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Re: Mac partitioning probs

[Taro Fukunaga]

Hi,
(B
(BWhat kind of partitions do you have on sda? You need one root and one
(Bswap at least.
(B
(BOn Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 09:11:46PM +, Matthew Kirkwood wrote:
(B> Hi,
(B> 
(B> Thanks to help from this list, I now have my Mac booting
(B> and starting the installer (via BootX).
(B> 
(B> My next problem is that the kernel doesn't seem interested
(B> in recognising the partition table that I create on the
(B> disk.
(B> 
(B> I followed Ethan Benson's instructions and partitioned the
(B> 4Gb disk that I chucked in there, but the kernel appears
(B> not to be parsing it.
(B> 
(B> dmesg says:
(B> 
(B> SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 924 [4340 MB] [4.3GB]
(B> SCSI device sdb: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 1431760 [699 MB] [0.7GB]
(B> ..
(B> Partition check:
(B>  sda: sda1
(B>  sdb: sdb1 sdb2 sdb3 sdb4 sdb5 sdb6
(B> 
(B> 
(B> /proc/partitions confirms this view.  Interesting lines:
(B> 
(B> major minor  #blocks  name
(B> 
(B>8 0462 sda
(B>8 14441941 sda1
(B> [sdb snipped]
(B> 
(B> mac-fdisk will happily display what's on sdb (the MacOS disk)
(B> and on sda (where Debian will live).
(B> 
(B> I've tried rebooting and restarting the installer in case the
(B> kernel thought that something was busy, but it's just the same
(B> next time.
(B> 
(B> Anyone willing to offer ideas?
(B> 
(B> Thanks,
(B> 
(B> Matthew.
(B> 
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Re: JBuilder 4

[Taro Fukunaga]

I am currently working at Borland as intern for the Developer Support
(BGroup for VisiBroker, which is separate from the JBuilder group, so I don't 
(Bknow very much about compatibility issues of JBuilder.
(B
(BIf I have time I will try to ask someone on the JBuilder support team
(Btomorrow or friday, stay tuned. 
(B
(B-- Taro
(B
(BOn Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 12:25:52PM +0100, Lorenzo De Vito wrote:
(B> I would like to install JBuilder4 on my linxppc (G3 B&W), there is someone
(B> who know compatibility troubles ?
(B> 
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Re: JBuilder 4

[Taro Fukunaga]

The good news is, I can start the JBuilder 4 installer on DebianPPC.
(BUnfortunately, I am having problems during installation. After some
(Binvestigation, I think the problem may be that the installer supplies
(Boperating-system dependent jre for x86 linux, but at this stage I cannot
(Bsay for sure. While the installer copies several files including jre to
(Bthe /tmp, it also copies a jre. Anyways, I never get to the point where
(BI can enter license key. 
(B
(B(As a side issue, I really don't like how the installer copies
(Btemporary files to /tmp; I have a very small / partition so I had to
(Bmake a soft link to /var/tmp).
(B
(BIf anyone else has suggestions or is interested in running JBuilder on
(BDebianPPC (and other LinuxPPC distros) please let me know. I would be
(Bespecially interested to know where in the installation the installation
(Bprocess is failing; I may then be able to ask the JBuilder team to see
(Bif there is a workaround.
(B
(BHere are some suggestions for running the installer (if anyone is
(Bintersted):
(B
(B1) As root, mount the cdrom:
(B  # mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/backup
(B
(B2) Start the installer, supplying full path to jvm
(B  # cd /mnt/backup
(B  # ./install_linux LAX_VM /usr/local/j2sdk1.3.0/bin/java
(B
(B-- Taro
(B
(BOn Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 05:58:20PM -0800, Taro Fukunaga wrote:
(B> I am currently working at Borland as intern for the Developer Support
(B> Group for VisiBroker, which is separate from the JBuilder group, so I don't 
(B> know very much about compatibility issues of JBuilder.
(B> 
(B> If I have time I will try to ask someone on the JBuilder support team
(B> tomorrow or friday, stay tuned. 
(B> 
(B> -- Taro
(B> 
(B> On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 12:25:52PM +0100, Lorenzo De Vito wrote:
(B> > I would like to install JBuilder4 on my linxppc (G3 B&W), there is someone
(B> > who know compatibility troubles ?
(B> > 
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Re: Sun JDK

[Taro Fukunaga]

Hi,
(B
(BForte for Java installed and works *fine* with JDK 1.3 from
(Bblackdown.org. However, I find it extremely slow. I am not sure why. So
(BFore for Java 2.0 will work fine with Debian PPC but for now I think
(BI'll stick to vi until I have more time to tinker around with these
(Btools.
(B
(B-- Taro
(B
(B
(B
(BOn Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 12:05:05PM +0100, Lorenzo De Vito wrote:
(B> I'm looking for a development kit which help me with classes names for fast
(B> works, so I though to use a graphic tool like Forte or JBuilder but I've
(B> troubles with porting on linuxppc, there is someone who know other graphics
(B> tools ?
(B> 
(B> -Messaggio Originale-
(B> Da: "Olaf Grewe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(B> A: "Lorenzo De Vito" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(B> Cc: 
(B> Data invio: gioved 15 marzo 2001 11.58
(B> Oggetto: Re: Sun JDK
(B> 
(B> 
(B> > >I can use Forte for java with JDK ppc porting ?
(B> > >
(B> >
(B> > I haven't tried it yet, but I think I've found mentioned, that it
(B> > works only for Sun's JDK (that is on x86 and sparc). I think it's
(B> > worth a try, so please let me know about your findings.
(B> >
(B> > Olaf
(B> 
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computer freezes, cause unknown

[Taro Fukunaga]

I am using Potato with kernel 2.2.18 on a PowerCenter. For some time this has 
(Bbeen a
(Bstable combination, but once in a while my computer freezes and I have
(Bto hit the power switch. I can't find any clues on the cause of this in
(B/var/log/messages. I think this occurs when I'm downloading files via
(Bftp but I am not sure if there is any relationship.
(B
(BDoes anyone have any idea on where else to look?
(B
(BAlso, www.kernel.org says 2.4 is the latest stable kernel. Should I be
(Busing 2.4 instead?
(B
(BRegards,
(B
(BTaro
(B
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pthread man page

[Taro Fukunaga]

Potato has manpages for individual pthread functions such as
(Bpthread_create() and pthread_destroy(), but there is no manpage for just
(Bpthread. 
(B
(BDoes anyone have any comments about this?
(B
(BRegards,
(B
(BTaro
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Re: 604e's suck (was Yaboot Config Question)

[Taro Fukunaga]

I don't have the technical background to follow a lot of this thread,
(Bbut I've been studying pthreads, and it seems that whether a certain
(Bprocess gets executed more quickly on a multiprocessor computer depends
(Bon how well the process uses threads for concurrency. So in a
(Bcompilation scenario, a make that can issue several compilation steps at
(Bonce would be ideal. Does make (or I guess the compiler) take advantage
(Bof multiple threads, or is there some other strategy being used?
(B
(BI hope this isn't a stupid question :-)
(B
(B-- Taro
(B
(BOn Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 05:42:44PM -0300, Peter Cordes wrote:
(B> On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 04:26:02AM -0700, Andrew Sharp wrote:
(B> > I'm afraid it's even worse than that.  I haven't looked up the
(B> > design specs on the web or anything, but I believe the Daystar
(B> > design is quite poor in a number of ways, some of them not really in
(B> > their control.  First, it's not SMP, it's really AMP, or Asymetric
(B> > MP: only processor 0 gets interrupts.  The processor affinity
(B> > algorithms in the 2.2 kernel, lame as they are, cause poor
(B> > performance on this kind of MP architecture.  I wouldn't be
(B> > surprised if 2.0 kernels, which had almost no processor affinity
(B> > code, would show better scaling on these systems.  Secondly, only
(B> > one processor at a time may use the bus off the daughter card, and
(B> > are multiplexed by bus transaction, not by bus cycle.  L2 cache
(B> > thrashing is a definite possibility.  
(B>  
(B>  Now that I think about it again, maybe the problem is just that the L2
(B> cache is on the mobo, as well as being shared, so the CPUs have to go
(B> through the bottleneck bus to get to it.
(B> 
(B> > But the worst part is that the
(B> > 604e is but a very pale shadow of the 604, with it's half wide data
(B> > and address busses and basically non-existent L1 caches.  It's
(B> > specmark numbers for a 200 are below those of a 200MHz PentiumPro. 
(B> > So, yes, your 650 Athlon, what with 133 or 200MHz memory bandwidth,
(B> > would spank that snot out of a 4 way 604e @ 150MHz.
(B> > 
(B> > With almost no disk accesses, my dual 200MHz 604e compiles a certain
(B> > kernel config achieving only about a 50% scaling, which is down
(B> > right pitiful, but better than nothing!  My dual SparcStation20 and
(B> > my dual celeron system achieve greater than 95% scaling on the same
(B> > kind of [fairly silly] test.  Such is life.
(B> 
(B>  It's hardly "fairly silly".  Compiling is an important benchmark, since a
(B> lot of time will be spent actually compiling.
(B> 
(B>  Thanks for that info.  BTW, only 2.4 kernels support my quad Daystar (2.2
(B> handled dual CPU daystars).  Also, the older Daystar Digital Genesis MP (not
(B> MP+), like I have, uses 604 CPUs, not 604e.  I looked up some info on 604
(B> and 604e before I bought the system (second hand last summer), and IIRC 604e
(B> has better out-of-order execution and stuff like that.  I guess that just
(B> makes the memory starvation worse, though!  I've got two 64MB DIMMs in the
(B> right slots for interleaving to work, but that doesn't help the memory
(B> latency.  I think they still have less bandwidth than the 66MHz SDRAM in my
(B> P200MMX.  (I ran some lmbench tests.)  How much would a CPU upgrade card
(B> help?  Anyone tried compiling a kernel or something with e.g. a dual G4 CPU
(B> card in an old system with interleaved memory?  G3 and G4 cpus have
(B> per-processor cache, instead of the shared 512kB my system has, so they
(B> should do a lot better.
(B> 
(B> /proc/cpuinfo:
(B> processor   : 0
(B> cpu : 604
(B> clock   : 150MHz
(B> revision: 3.5
(B> bogomips: 299.50
(B> 
(B> ...
(B> proc 1,2, and 3 identical
(B> ...
(B> 
(B> total bogomips  : 1196.53
(B> zero pages  : total: 0 (0Kb) current: 0 (0Kb) hits: 0/0 (0%)
(B> machine : Power Macintosh
(B> motherboard : AAPL,9500 MacRISC
(B> L2 cache: 512K unified
(B> memory  : 128MB
(B> pmac-generation : OldWorld
(B> 
(B> 
(B> -- 
(B> #define X(x,y) x##y
(B> Peter Cordes ;  e-mail: X([EMAIL PROTECTED] , ns.ca)
(B> 
(B> "The gods confound the man who first found out how to distinguish the hours!
(B>  Confound him, too, who in this place set up a sundial, to cut and hack
(B>  my day so wretchedly into small pieces!" -- Plautus, 200 BCE
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Re: Help for installation of 2.2r2

[Taro Fukunaga]

Hi, I am using Debian 2.2 on a PowerCenter. 
(B
(BI don't know anything about installing Debian on iMacs, but...
(B
(BOn Sun, Apr 08, 2001 at 12:26:50AM +0200, Riccardo Gusso wrote:
(B> First of all, I am new here and so I say hello to everybody.
(B> Then the question(s): in the past I installed various releases of YellowDog
(B> Champion Server and Suse Linux for PowerPc, and succeeded  with not so much
(B> difficulties in solving the  problems I found during the installation
(B> process and the setup of the system. Now I'm trying and re-trying to
(B> install Debian 2.2r2 on my iMac rev.B, but I can't get it to work.
(B> I have to notice that a lot  of things were simpler with other
(B> distributions, and that the installer seems to me not very "Mac-aware"; for
(B> example I can't found my monitor or video device or mouse among the ones the
(B> installer suggest me, and there is no simple tool to configure X. The
(B> installation guide has the same problems of the installer, and can't help
(B> me. So it seems as if Debian is a 'only for expert' distro.
(B> But I really would like to install it in my iMac, and so I'm here to ask you
(B> some questions:
(B> 1) Is it better that I wait for a 'more Mac-aware' release?
(B> 2) At the first reboot of the iMac, after I have installed only the base
(B> system, and so I've done nothing particular,  I get some 'unresolved
(B> symbols' message warning from depmode: is it normal?
(B> 3) I don't understand which is the best way to install packages: the guide
(B> suggests not to use dselect for the first installation, but the simpler
(B> tasksel. But for example if I select phyton packages from the list I always
(B> get an error message related to dependencies problems. Morover the guide
(B> says that some standard packages are not installed by default, and to avoid
(B> this to run tasksel -s without selecting any packages. If so, what is the
(B> use of tasksel?
(B
(Btasksel? Never heard of it. dselect will warn you of missing packages,
(Bbut will automagically download them from an ftp server (provided that
(Byou are already connected to one!) if you are missing them.
(B
(BA list of ftp servers is stored in /etc/apt/apt.sources.list, and you
(Bcan edit the file to add more.
(B
(BI wish I could help you more with your installation, but you should also
(Bsearch the email archives.
(B
(B> 4) I can't get mouse to work, neither in the console nor in X. Morover, I
(B> can't get X to work. Could someone tell me which server is installed with
(B> this distro and help me to set up it correctly?
(B> 
(B> Thanks in advance.
(B> Rick
(B> -- 
(B> "Like a bird on the wire
(B>  like a drunk in a midnight choir
(B>  I tried in my way to be free."
(B>   L. Cohen, "Bird on the wire"
(B> 
(B> 
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Re: mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

[Taro Fukunaga]

Hi,

Use the JDK from here:

http://penguinppc.org/usr/java/

I built mozilla 0.9.1 myself and put a symlink to 
/usr/local/j2sdk1.3.0/jre/plugin/ppc/javaplugin.so in 
/usr/local/mozilla-0.9.1/bin/plugins



As for Flash, I'm not sure...

-- Taro

Artur Gorniak wrote:


is there java-vm for mozilla?

I'm trying to use kaffe. Just started..
Tried to use java-2 from netscape but it's not installing..
Of course I do this in next few hours diffrent way but first
I want to know if there is flash, java aso. for this platform.

Artur Górniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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j2sdkee1.3.0 availability on DebianPPC

[Taro Fukunaga]

Has anyone been able to get j2sdkee 1.3.0 to work? I downloaded the i386 
Linux version and tried to run j2eetutorial/examples/build/ejb/bank's 
client, but I get this error:


Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax/ejb/EJBObject

I cannot find the this class anywhere in my classpath.

Thanks,

Taro

debian ppc website

[Taro Fukunaga]

Hi, I am planning to install Debian PPC soon, but I've noticed that the
(Bwebsite says that many machines have not yet been tested. Is this
(Bwebsite really up-to-date? My configuration:
(B
(BPowerCenter 120 + Newer 300Mhz G3
(BATI XClaim 3D (8MB)
(BAdaptec 2930 Ultra-SCSI card
(B104MB RAM.
(BBuggy OF which doesn't like to be tampered with (But I try anyway)
(B
(BIts very important for me that I have a very stable installation,
(Bespecially X. I have heard that there will be an update to Potato with
(Ban improved installer and upgraded packages. Is this true? For some
(Breason I can't find definite information on the website about the status
(Bof Debian PPC.
(B
(BThank you.
(B
(BTaro

install woes

[Taro Fukunaga]

I've succeeded in installing the base system. Why doesn't the installer
(Blet me specify a non-anonymous ftp server for install? Is there a way to
(Bset this up? 
(B
(BThanks,
(B
(BTaro

ethernet but ppp fails (was install woes)

[Taro Fukunaga]

Well I gave up on this one and set up anon ftp. But for some reason I
(Bcannot go beyond my ethernet. pon dials and ifconfig reports that I am
(Bconnected. But all attempts to ping outside go towards my ethernet. So
(Bapt-config can't use an outside ftp server. The other computer I am
(Bconnected does not have any pppd, it is strictly for ethernet. What
(Bshould I do?
(B
(BThanks,
(B
(BTaro--- Begin Message ---
I've succeeded in installing the base system. Why doesn't the installer
(Blet me specify a non-anonymous ftp server for install? Is there a way to
(Bset this up? 
(B
(BThanks,
(B
(BTaro
(B
(B
(B--  
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Re: ethernet but ppp fails (was install woes)

[Taro Fukunaga]

I ignored the network setup and now ppp works. Ethernet won't. (The
(Binstallation manual says that to use ppp, don't configure the network.
(BIntuitive!) Somehow I missed the profiles section, forcing me to install
(Beverything by hand. I'll have to retry the whole install again. 
(B
(BTaro
(B
(BEthan Benson wrote:
(B
(B> 
(B> sounds like a routing problem, your default route it probably wrong.
(B> 
(B> send the output of /sbin/route -n (or netstat -rn)
(B>

setting up X

[Taro Fukunaga]

What's the best way to set up X? I tried anXious, got the error messages
(B
(BProtocol: "<>"
(BMouse type not supported by this OS
(B
(BSo I looked at the archives and tried hacking XF86Config. Now I can
(Balmost start X, but it fails with 
(B
(BFatal server error:
(BNo valid modes found.
(B
(BI really don't know what I'm doing when I'm hacking XF86Config. 
(B
(BThank you.
(B
(B-- Taro
(B
(BMachine: PowerCenter 120 (Old world PCI)
(BVideo: 8MB ATI Xclaim 3D (Mach 32? 64?)
(BMouse: adb (not working under gpm)

Re: setting up X

[Taro Fukunaga]

I tried your suggestions and it still doesn't work. I still get the same
(Berror message. 
(B
(BThere is a lot more to the error messages, but its so long I didn't want
(Bto send everyone the output. Has to do with the monitor resolution settings.
(B
(BTaro
(B
(BOlaf Grewe wrote:
(B> 
(B> >?What's the best way to set up X? I tried anXious, got the error messages
(B> >
(B> >Protocol: "<>"
(B> >Mouse type not supported by this OS
(B> >
(B> >So I looked at the archives and tried hacking XF86Config. Now I can
(B> >almost start X, but it fails with
(B> >
(B> >Fatal server error:
(B> >No valid modes found.
(B> >
(B> >I really don't know what I'm doing when I'm hacking XF86Config.
(B> >
(B> >Thank you.
(B> >
(B> >-- Taro
(B> >
(B> >Machine: PowerCenter 120 (Old world PCI)
(B> >Video: 8MB ATI Xclaim 3D (Mach 32? 64?)
(B> >Mouse: adb (not working under gpm)
(B> >
(B> Did you try busmouse (bm) and /dev/adbmouse ? This worked for my gpm.
(B> Then set the repeater protocol and use /dev/gpmdata in the pointer
(B> section of XF86Config.
(B> 
(B> hth

Re: setting up X

[Taro Fukunaga]

ot; needs hsync freq of 53.51 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 55.84 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 56.48 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 51.02 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 64.02 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 62.50 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 62.42 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 64.25 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 70.24 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 70.88 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 74.59 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 75.00 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 76.01 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 78.86 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 80.21 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 81.13 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 87.50 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 89.62 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 91.15 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 93.75 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 105.77 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 107.16 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1800X1440" needs hsync freq of 96.15 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1800X1440" needs hsync freq of 104.52 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "512x384" needs hsync freq of 31.50 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "512x384" needs hsync freq of 34.38 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "320x200" needs hsync freq of 31.47 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "320x240" needs hsync freq of 31.47 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "320x240" needs hsync freq of 39.38 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "400x300" needs hsync freq of 35.16 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "400x300" needs hsync freq of 37.88 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "400x300" needs hsync freq of 48.08 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 35.16 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 37.80 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 39.56 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 48.00 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "640x480" needs hsync freq of 34.72 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "832x624" needs vert refresh rate of 74.96 Hz. Deleted.
(B(**) FontPath set to 
(B"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
(B(**) FBDev: Using XF86Config video mode database
(B
(BFatal server error:
(BNo valid modes found.
(B
(B
(BWhen reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send
(Bthe full server output, not just the last messages
(B
(BX connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
(B
(B
(B
(BMichel D$BgO(Bzer wrote:
(B> 
(B> Taro Fukunaga wrote:
(B
(B> It's really hard to help without your XF86Config and the server output, if you
(B> can't put those up somewhere for us to look at I don't think it's so bad if
(B> you post them to the list.

Re: setting up X

[Taro Fukunaga]

Here is XF86Config. The manual for$B!!(Bmy monitor says:
(B
(BHorizontal 24.8-94.0kHz
(BVertical: 50-160Hz
(BMaximum Resolution: 1600x1200 (Non interlaced)
(B
(BOn MacOS I usually use thousands of colors and 1280x1024, 75Hz.
(B
(BThanks, and if its better to wait for XFre86 4 package, I'll wait. When
(BI was using Redhat system before this, Xautoconfig seemed to work well.
(BIs this package available, or has someone reported success after
(Bconverting it with alien?
(B
(BTaro
(B
(B
(BXF86Config
(B
(B# File generated by anXious - the Debian X Configuration Tool
(B# anXious and xviddetect are (c) 2000 Randolph Chung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(B
(B# Suggestions and bug reports about this tool should be sent to 
(B# [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(B
(B# ***
(B# Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of 
(B# this file. A more thoroughly commented version of this configuration
(B# file can be found in /usr/share/doc/xserver-common/examples/XF86Config.eg
(B# ***
(B
(BSection "Files"
(BRgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
(BFontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/:unscaled"
(BFontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/:unscaled"
(BFontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
(BFontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
(BFontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
(BFontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
(BFontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
(BFontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/"
(BFontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
(BFontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
(BModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
(BEndSection
(B
(B# Section "Module"
(B# Load "xf86Jstk.so"
(B# EndSection
(B
(BSection "ServerFlags"
(B#   NoTrapSignals
(B#   DontZap
(B#   DontZoom
(B#   DisableVidModeExtension
(B#   AllowNonLocalXvidtune
(B#   DiableModInDev
(B#   AllowNonLocalModInDev
(BEndSection
(B
(BSection "Keyboard"
(BProtocol "Standard"
(B# To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable.
(B#XkbDisable
(B
(B# To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
(B# lines below (which are the defaults).  For example, for a non-U.S.
(B# keyboard, you will probably want to use:
(B#XkbModel"pc102"
(B# If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:
(B#XkbModel"microsoft"
(B#
(B# Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
(B# For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
(B#XkbLayout   "de"
(B# or:
(B#XkbLayout   "de"
(B#XkbVariant  "nodeadkeys"
(B# if you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and
(B# control keys, use:
(B#XkbOptions  "ctrl:swapcaps"
(B
(B# These are the default XKB settings for XFree86
(B#XkbRules"xfree86"
(B#XkbModel"pc101"
(B#XkbLayout   "us"
(B#XkbVariant  ""
(B#XkbOptions  ""
(B
(B
(BXkbKeymap "us"
(B
(BEndSection
(B
(BSection "Pointer"
(BProtocol "busmouse"
(BDevice "/dev/gpmdata"
(BEmulate3Buttons
(BEndSection
(B
(BSection "Monitor"
(BIdentifier  "My Monitor"
(BVendorName  "Unknown"
(BModelName   "Unknown"
(B
(BHorizSync   50
(BVertRefresh 50
(B
(B# This is a set of standard mode timings. Modes that are out of monitor spec
(B# are automatically deleted by the server (provided the HorizSync and
(B# VertRefresh lines are correct), so there's no immediate need to
(B# delete mode timings (unless particular mode timings don't work on your
(B# monitor). With these modes, the best standard mode that your monitor
(B# and video card can support for a given resolution is automatically
(B# used.
(B
(B
(B# 640x400 @ 70 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync
(BModeline "640x400" 25.175 640  664  760  800   400  409  411  450
(B# 640x480 @ 60 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync
(BModeline "640x480" 25.175 640  664  760  800   480  491  493  525
(B# 800x600 @ 56 Hz, 35.15 kHz hsync
(BModeLine "800x600" 36 800  824  896 1024   600  601  603  625
(B# 1024x768 @ 87 Hz interlaced, 35.5 kHz hsync
(BModeline "1024x768"44.9  1024 1048 1208 1264   768  776  784  817 Interlace
(B
(B# 640x400 @ 85 Hz, 37.86 kHz hsync
(BModeline "640x400" 31.5   640  672 736   832   400  401  404  445
(B-HSync +VSync
(B# 640x480 @ 72 Hz, 36.5 kHz hsync
(BModeline "640x480" 31.5   640  680  720  864   480  488  491  521
(B# 640x480 @ 75 Hz, 37.50 kHz hsync
(BModeLine  "640x480"31.5   640  656  720  840   480  481  484  500
(B-HSync -VSync
(B# 800x600 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync
(BModeline "800x600" 40 800  840  968 1056   600  601  605  628
(B+hs

Re: setting up X

[Taro Fukunaga]

Here is the error message I get when I startx:
(B
(B
(B
(BXFree86 Version 3.3.6 / X Window System
(B(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300)
(BRelease Date: January 8 2000
(BIf the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer
(Bthan the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
(Bproblems.  (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
(BOperating System: Linux 2.2.15pre13 ppc [ELF] 
(BConfigured drivers:
(B   FBDev: Server for frame buffer device
(B   (Patchlevel 11): mfb, afb, cfb8, cfb16, cfb32, NCR 77C32BLT (accel),
(BATI Mach64 (accel), IMS TwinTurbo (accel), 3Dlabs Permedia 2 (accel)
(B(using VT number 7)
(B
(BXF86Config: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config
(B(**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values
(B(**) XKB: keymap: "us" (overrides other XKB settings)
(B(**) Mouse: type: busmouse, device: /dev/gpmdata, buttons: 3
(B(**) Mouse: 3 button emulation (timeout: 50ms)
(B(**) FBDev: Graphics device ID: "My Video Card"
(B(**) FBDev: Monitor ID: "My Monitor"
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "640x400" needs hsync freq of 31.47 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "640x480" needs hsync freq of 31.47 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 35.16 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 35.52 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "640x400" needs hsync freq of 37.86 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "640x480" needs hsync freq of 36.46 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "640x480" needs hsync freq of 37.50 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 37.88 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "640x480" needs hsync freq of 43.27 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 43.92 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 48.08 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 48.36 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "640x480" needs hsync freq of 53.01 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 53.51 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 55.84 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 56.48 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 51.02 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 64.02 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 62.50 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 62.42 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 64.25 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 70.24 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 70.88 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 74.59 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 75.00 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 76.01 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 78.86 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 80.21 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 81.13 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 87.50 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 89.62 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 91.15 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 93.75 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 105.77 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 107.16 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1800X1440" needs hsync freq of 96.15 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "1800X1440" needs hsync freq of 104.52 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "512x384" needs hsync freq of 31.50 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "512x384" needs hsync freq of 34.38 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "320x200" needs hsync freq of 31.47 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "320x240" needs hsync freq of 31.47 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "320x240" needs hsync freq of 39.38 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "400x300" needs hsync freq of 35.16 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "400x300" needs hsync freq of 37.88 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "400x300" needs hsync freq of 48.08 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 35.16 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 37.80 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 39.56 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 48.00 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "640x480" needs hsync freq of 34.72 kHz. Deleted.
(B(--) FBDev: Mode "832x624" needs vert refresh rate of 74.96 Hz. Deleted.
(B(**) FontPath set to 
(B"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/lib/X11/f

Re: setting up X

[Taro Fukunaga]

I fixed it. X and mouse are working and fvwm2 is useable. Thanks to all
(Bwho gave me advice, and to Will Dukes for his excellent guide on setting
(Bup X (I found this in the mailing list archives).
(B
(BTaro
(B
(BMike Armour wrote:
(B
(B> i had the same problem as you, and despite others advice couldn't fix it
(B> until i did this :
(B> 
(B> > Subsection "Display"
(B> > Depth   16
(B> > Modes  "default"
(B> > EndSubsection
(B> >
(B> 
(B> and now it works :) hope this helps u.
(B> 
(B> --
(B> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(B> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How do I use those PowerMac images-1.44?

[Taro Fukunaga]

I'm running on a PowerCenter. I gave up on the floppies and I also gave
(Bup putting the files on a HFS volume. I put the stuff on a ext2
(Bpartition on an old hard disk that I had, and it works every time. Of
(Bcourse I had copied the stuff to ext2 from a previous installation of
(BLinuxPPC, which made life pretty easy. Oh and I took out the CDROM drive
(Band put the extra hard disk in there. The installer seems to detect the
(Bpartition where the files are automatically. Not sure if this helps, but
(Bit worked for me.
(B
(BTaro
(B
(BGarry Roseman wrote:
(B> 
(B> I am exploring the possibility of planting the Debian GNU/Linux
(B> potatoe on my PowerWave 150, PowerMac clone computer.  Booting from
(B> CD is a problem because it is a non-Apple CD-ROM drive and typical
(B> CD's, burned with the Apple CD/DVD Driver as the driver in the driver
(B> partition(s), will not boot this machine.  I could re-burn the CD
(B> myself and (probably) make it bootable on this machine using my own
(B> edited copy of the Apple CD/DVD Driver, but I was trying instead to
(B> make the boot floppy.  I'd like to have a Linux boot floppy in any
(B> case.  I got the rescue 1.44-image named "rescue.bin" from the
(B> /PowerMac/images-1.44 directory using macbinary ftp transfer
(B> mode, but I can't do anything with this "image".  I can't do anything
(B> with any of these images.  They are not decoded by Stuffit Expander
(B> and are not recognizable by Disk Copy as MacOS disk images.  How do I
(B> make a rescue disk from the binary image?
(B> 
(B> I read the ppc installation guide and didn't find any mention of this problem.
(B> --
(B>Garry Roseman  
(B> 
(B> --
(B> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(B> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

How do I fix broken wdm?

[Taro Fukunaga]

I broke wdm. It won't let me log in and i think its because of missing 
configuration files. Neither will xdm. i've tried to uninstall wdm, but 
I can't do that either when I issue the command dpkg --purge wdm. What 
can I do to fix this? I've tried to get the files from the source, but I 
have to build these to get the configuration files and I'm having 
trouble compiling it. XFree86-3.3.6 is working fine.



Thanks,

Taro

Re: How do I fix broken wdm?

[Taro Fukunaga]

I fixed this. The solution was to put the line "exit 0" on the second 
line of /var/lib/dpkg/info/wdm.prerm and then run dpkg --purge wdm, and 
then remove /var/state/wdm.


Taro

Re: upgrading irda-common

[Taro Fukunaga]

Sergio Brandano wrote:
(B
(B>  Hi,
(B>
(B>  two days ago, irda-common had a new package to download. When
(B>  installing it, the removal of the previous one failed.
(B>  The messages are included below. I tried forcing the removal with no
(B>  reinstallation, but it failed too.
(B>
(B
(BTry dpkg --purge irda-common.
(B
(BCheck to see if it really is gone:
(B
(Bdpkg -l irda-common
(B
(BIf you see rc on the left side, that means the configuration files are still 
(Baround and I can't remember how to
(Breally really get rid of everthing including the entry in the database (I'm 
(Bassuming all of this is in a database).
(B
(BHope this helps,
(B
(BTaro

Re: problem booting from sda during installation

[Taro Fukunaga]

Michael Schmitz wrote:
(B
(B> > It's working great and right now I'm struggling with X configuration.
(B> > Mouse is not working. My mouse fits into the keyboard and has 4 pins.
(B>
(B> That would be an ADB mouse. Additional mouse buttons can be emulated by
(B> keys using the adb_buttons=1,x,y kernel option (x and y being the keycodes
(B> for the emulation keys).
(B>
(B
(BI am running potato with an adb mouse but don't have 3 button emulation. What
(Bshould I put for x and y? Is there any way to just put x and y into the kernel
(Bsource and recompile it? I also thought there is a 'z' for the third button.
(B
(B-- Taro

xserver crashes

[Taro Fukunaga]

My XServer crashes a lot (about once every 3 hours) forcing me to hit
(Bctrl-opt-delete and restarting X from the console. My mouse ends up in
(Bthe lower right-hand corner and I can move a window somewhat for a short
(Bwhile until it really locks up. I'm not sure what the problem is
(Balthough I suspect a bad XFree86Config file. I had to make several edits
(Bto this file just to get X running. I am not sure if this is helpful or
(Bnot, but this is the error messages I see in the console:
(B
(Bxscreensaver: X SERVER BUG: 1280X1024 viewport -1,-1 is impossible
(Bxscreensaver: The XVidMode server extension is returning nonsense
(Bxscreensaver: Please report this bug to your X server vendor
(B
(BUnable to bind port 16001
(BUnable to bind port 16001
(BUnable to bind port 16001
(BUnable to bind port 16001
(Bxinit: connection to X server lost
(B
(BI am running in 1280x1024 with 16 bit color with an XClaim3D 8MB video
(Bcard with xfree86 3.3.6.x dpkgs from potato.
(B
(BDoes anybody know how I can fix this? Thanks.
(B
(BTaro

Re: xserver crashes

[Taro Fukunaga]

> I get the same problem, turning off the the screensaver should 
prevent it,  of course you'll be wanting your   >  screensaver though. 
It may be just one  of the savers, not all. Try running different savers 
to see which one >  might  be causing it.


I removed xscreensaver but I still have this problem. Seems to be a 
problem when I'm moving mozilla 17 or netscape windows, which to be 
fairly large on my monitor. I have no other screensavers. Netscape is 
from an rpm which I repackages as a deb. And I think m17 is not from 
original deb either but from mozilla.org tarball.


- Taro

Re: xserver crashes

[Taro Fukunaga]

Hi,
(B
(BTaro Fukunaga wrote:
(B
(B>  > I get the same problem, turning off the the screensaver should
(B> prevent it,  of course you'll be wanting your   >  screensaver though.
(B> It may be just one  of the savers, not all. Try running different savers
(B> to see which one >  might  be causing it.
(B>
(B> I removed xscreensaver but I still have this problem. Seems to be a
(B> problem when I'm moving mozilla 17 or netscape windows, which to be
(B> fairly large on my monitor. I have no other screensavers. Netscape is
(B> from an rpm which I repackages as a deb. And I think m17 is not from
(B> original deb either but from mozilla.org tarball.
(B>
(B> - Taro
(B
(BWell I am still getting this problem. About every 30 minutes or so, a window I'm
(Btrying to move becomes unplacable, meaning if I click my mouse nothing happens
(Band after about 10 tries or so X locks up. Also I found that I have to have the
(Bscreensaver or I get logged out automatically and go back into wdm. I don't
(Bthink this problem has anything to do with mozilla but possibly with my Xserver
(Bor XFree86Config. I can't believe no one else is having this problem.
(B
(BI am beginning to long for the days of slow but trusty MkLinux!
(B
(BRegards,
(B
(BTaro

Re: xserver crashes

[Taro Fukunaga]

Hi Michael and all,

I thought I sent email out last night regarding this issue but somehow 
it never made it.


Michel Dänzer wrote:


Taro Fukunaga wrote:

> > I removed xscreensaver but I still have this problem. Seems to be a
> > problem when I'm moving mozilla 17 or netscape windows, which to be
> > fairly large on my monitor. I have no other screensavers. Netscape is
> > from an rpm which I repackages as a deb. And I think m17 is not from
> > original deb either but from mozilla.org tarball.
> 
> Well I am still getting this problem. About every 30 minutes or so, a window

> I'm trying to move becomes unplacable, meaning if I click my mouse nothing
> happens and after about 10 tries or so X locks up.

Which window manager? Have you tried another one?

The problem occurs when I use WindowMaker. Resizing/moving windows in 
WindowMaker causes it to crash and this is documented as being a bug in 
WindowMaker 0.61, which is used in Potato. It has been fixed in the 
current version of WindowMaker although I haven't tried this out yet.




> Also I found that I have to have the screensaver or I get logged out
> automatically and go back into wdm.

I don't understand this, please explain further.


Ignore this...



> I don't think this problem has anything to do with mozilla but possibly
> with my Xserver or XFree86Config.

Sorry if you mentioned it before, but which X server is it?


Michel



Ignore this too. I am pretty sure the problem is with WindowMaker. I 
don't have this problem when I'm using fvwm2. Is anyone else having this 
problem when using WindowMaker?


Regards,

Taro

Re: xserver crashes

[Taro Fukunaga]

Taro Fukunaga wrote:

Hi Michael and all,
The problem occurs when I use WindowMaker. Resizing/moving windows in 
WindowMaker causes it to crash and this is documented as being a bug 
in WindowMaker 0.61, which is used in Potato. It has been fixed in the 
current version of WindowMaker although I haven't tried this out yet.


Well WindowMaker crashed again, and this is the latest version from 
their ftp site. So I'lll run fvwm2 for a while and see what happens. 
Maybe the problem is with mozilla 17, since that was the last program I 
was using. I think m17 was from a tarball from mozilla.org, possibly 
built against linuxppc libs that are incompatible with debain.


--Taro

Re: Successful install but disoriented about X configuration

[Taro Fukunaga]

Garry Roseman wrote:
I lurked here for a while and read about Debian until I finally made 
the decision to replace Linuxppc 2000 with Debian GNU/Linux (Potato). 
I first put it on my PowerMac 7600/ Powerlogix G3 system while the 
PowerComputing 150 continues to run Linuxppc 2000 (for a little while).


The Debian install is wonderful!  I was able to install by booting 
from the floppy, mounting the root from floppy, and finding the 
drivers and base system where I had downloaded them on a hard drive. 
All further installation was done via dselect/ppp and went smoothly. I 
got Midnight Commander and lynx running and gcc installed.


(I'm using BootX for dual booting since this is an Old World ROM 
machine and quik is not as convenient -- BootX is very easy to set up 
and use.  Besides I'm not weaned from MacOS yet for email and a few 
programs such as Adobe Acrobat.)


Today I installed the X-Windows packages, s.a. xfonts*, xserver*, xdm, 
xterm, blackbox, but I am feeling completely disoriented about 
configuration.  I don't know what command(s) to rely on for setting up 
my X server.  The Debian book says to run x86config --- I don't have 
an x86config command?!


I tried to check the FAQ-O-Matic for help but it seems to be AWOL.

Someone please give me the big picture on what I should do next to get 
X running.  My PCI graphics board is the ATI Xclaim 3D Plus (ATI Rage 
LT Pro graphics accelerator with 8M of memory).


(I only need X to run lyx!  Otherwise I'd be quite happy to live with 
a Linux console.  I don't want to install a desktop manager right now 
but will eventually use KDE.)


Thanks for giving me a shove in the right direction...
I am running debian 2.2 on my PowerCenter 120, upgraded to a 300MHz G3. 
I have an ATI XClaim 3D card. Someone on the list suggested that I put 
the following in /etc/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config:


Section "Screen"
  ...
  Subsection "Display"
  Depth 16
  Modes "default"
  EndSubSection
...

Basically you need to configure X by hand by editing this file.

BTW there is an acrobat like program called xpdf that I use alot. Its 
pretty basic, but fast and does the job.


Good luck,

-- Taro

Mozilla M18 on Potato

[Taro Fukunaga]

I tried compiling M18 on potato but I got error messages about 
incompatible gtk+. I have 1.0.x, but M18 requries 1.2.x. But gtk+ 1.2.x 
is only available for woody, am I right?


Regards,

Taro

Re: Mozilla M18 on Potato

[Taro Fukunaga]

Hadess,

I *do* have gtk 1.2, but apparently gtk-config  reports 1.0 since that is
 what /usr/lib/libgtk.so is. I tried hacking gtk-cofnig but without much
 success.Maybe there was some upward compatibility problem so 1.0 is the
 default?

Hadess wrote:

 And gtk 1.2.8 is on my site (see .sig).



I'll check it out!

-- Taro

Re: Mozilla M18 on Potato

[Taro Fukunaga]

Sven LUTHER wrote:

On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 06:56:38PM -0700, Taro Fukunaga wrote:
> I tried compiling M18 on potato but I got error messages about 
> incompatible gtk+. I have 1.0.x, but M18 requries 1.2.x. But gtk+ 1.2.x 
> is only available for woody, am I right?

False, gtk+1.2 should be availabel in potato since the early mess of having
lots of incompatible gtk+1.1.x packages laying around.

it is named libgtk1.2 and libglib1.2, i think.

Friendly,

Sven LUTHER



I do have gtk+1.2, but when I run the configure script, the configure script
 runs gtk-config, which reports the older version. I need to somehow force
 gtk-config to point to the newer libraries.

The output of gtk-config

-L/usr/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -lglib -lXi -lXext -lX11 -lm

My system layout:

lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   19 Oct 25 00:48 libgtk-1.2.so.0 -> libgtk-1.2.so.0.5.2
-rw-r--r--1 root root  1700232 Feb 22  2000 libgtk-1.2.so.0.5.2
-rw-r--r--1 root root  1588722 Jan 25  1999 libgtk.a
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   15 Oct 26 18:46 libgtk.so -> libgtk.so.1.0.6
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   15 Oct 26 18:46 libgtk.so.1 -> libgtk.so.1.0.6
-rw-r--r--1 root root   953780 Jan 25  1999 libgtk.so.1.0.6I think lgtk refers to libgtk.so, am I right?


-- Taro

Re: Mozilla M18 on Potato

[Taro Fukunaga]

Even thought I had libgtk-1.2 installed, somehow the package wasn't 
(perhaps because I uninstalled all my X packages before this). After 
installing libgtk1.2-dev (which was purged according to dselect) 
configure recognized the right library.


Sorry for all the fuss.

-- Taro
I do have gtk+1.2, but when I run the configure script, the configure 
script  runs gtk-config, which reports the older version. I need to 
somehow force  gtk-config to point to the newer libraries.


The output of gtk-config

-L/usr/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk -lgdk -lglib -lXi -lXext -lX11 -lm

My system layout:


lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   19 Oct 25 00:48 libgtk-1.2.so.0 -> 
libgtk-1.2.so.0.5.2
-rw-r--r--1 root root  1700232 Feb 22  2000 libgtk-1.2.so.0.5.2
-rw-r--r--1 root root  1588722 Jan 25  1999 libgtk.a
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   15 Oct 26 18:46 libgtk.so -> 
libgtk.so.1.0.6
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   15 Oct 26 18:46 libgtk.so.1 -> 
libgtk.so.1.0.6
-rw-r--r--1 root root   953780 Jan 25  1999 libgtk.so.1.0.6

Re: MacPPC 6100

[Taro Fukunaga]

(B
(BEthan Benson wrote:
(B> 
(B> On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 10:27:18AM +0100, Chris Mueller wrote:
(B> > Hi Linux Friends,
(B> >
(B> > Does DebianPPC work on old MacPPC 6100?
(B> > 24 MB RAM,
(B> > 160 MB harddisk.
(B> >
(B> > Or does another Linux solution work with such a veteran?
(B> 
(B> this is a NuBus based machine which the linux kernel does not
(B> support.  however the freak cousin mklinux does.  i have heard it is
(B> possible to install debian under the mklinux kernel but i am not sure
(B> how that would work.  (i assume just boot mklinux with the debian root
(B> ramdisk and install as normal, if mklinux is compatible with the linux
(B> kernel it should work..)
(B> 
(B> > Thanks for recommendations end experiences!
(B> > :-)
(B> 
(B> i have friends who run mklinux and have found it not all that
(B> reliable, but perhaps that is due to the redhat userland mess normally
(B> associated with mklinux.  perhaps debian under mklinux would work
(B> better... but i don't have any direct experience so i cannot say for sure.
(B> 
(BI disagree, MkLinux is very reliable, but tends to be slow because of
(Bits use of the microkernel. I am not sure if it's even usable (or
(Binstallable) on a machine with only 24 MB RAM. You can find more
(Binformation about mklinux at www.mklinux.org. 
(B
(BCheers,
(B
(B-- Taro

Mozilla M18 menu doesn't display text

[Taro Fukunaga]

I compiled and regularly use Mozillia M18 on potato. When I click on a 
web page to get the context-sensitive menu (which somehow maps to my 
"end" key) I get a menu but there is no text. Does anyone know how to 
fix this or should I search for a bug list on mozilla.org? There seems 
to be nothing wrong with the menu. After several tries, I figured out 
which "blank" menu item from the top brings up the "Save this page 
as..." dialog box. It's the fourth one from the bottom.


Thanks,

Taro

Re: Netscape package

[Taro Fukunaga]

C.M. Connelly wrote:


"PAN" == Pål Are Nordal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"CMC" == C.M. Connelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

CMC>  I'm really looking forward to a stable Mozilla

PAN> Well, I haven't got my iMac up and running with Debian
PAN> yet, but on my AMD K6-2, Mozilla Milestone 18 is as
PAN> stable as a rock, with a few slowdowns here and there
PAN> being the main indication that this isn't finished yet.

Yes, Mozilla looks pretty good on my partner's PC running Linux,
but I've had pretty much no luck at all on PPC.  The version I
compiled myself (from the -1 Debian source) was so slow as to be
unusable, and the binary packages I downloaded from the archive
(-2) don't actually let me load any page but the readme.  (That
is, I type a URL into the box, hit return, and Mozilla reloads the
readme; changing the home page to some URL, saving the
preferences, and then hitting home also just reloads the readme
file.)

I have to take another stab at it, and see if I'm still having
problems before I file any bug reports, but I'm pretty
disappointed, as M17 seemed better (if slower than the -2
version).



I compiled M18 and it is pretty good and I think faster than M17. There are 
some compiler optimizations that the configurator can generate for you. See:

http://webtools.mozilla.org/build/config.cgi

I don't have any problems loading pages; when I type a URL into the box, 
Mozilla does reload it. So I don't think it is a bug.


-- Taro

Fixing keyboard settings

[Taro Fukunaga]

How do I fix my keyboard settings if xkeycaps is broken? I can't scroll 
the window to select a keyboard. I have a PowerComputing keyboard and 
whenever I press Caps-Lock in X I get an A and an a if I depress it. I 
would appreciate any pointers on how to fix this.


-- Taro

Re: Fixing keyboard settings

[Taro Fukunaga]

Andre Berger wrote:


Taro Fukunaga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:



How do I fix my keyboard settings if xkeycaps is broken? I can't scroll the
window to select a keyboard. I have a PowerComputing keyboard and whenever I
press Caps-Lock in X I get an A and an a if I depress it. I would appreciate
any pointers on how to fix this.

-- Taro


Edit /etc/X11/Xmodmap. Make backup copy before you actually do.




Thanks, I mapped Caps-Lock to a diferent key.

-- Taro

Re: Broken Potato Packages??? Build Daemon?

[Taro Fukunaga]

Adam C Powell IV wrote:


Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:education



On Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 05:11:23PM +0100, Alain Schroeder wrote:


There is no netscape-base-47, so that the packages netscape and
communicator are broken.


I compiled mozilla 18 out of M18 tarballs from mozilla.org and am using 
it on potato. Also some time back someone said he has a website where 
you can download his build. Use M18, it's pretty slow but fairly stable 
(I guess, how many lines of code are in this browser anyways??)


-- Taro

Re: Potato revision 1

[Taro Fukunaga]

Hello,

I am running Potato 2.2r1. I had trouble compiling mico example programs 
and I fixed the problem by making a simple link:


ln -s libbsd-compat.a libbsd.a

I am not at all familiar with how debian bugs get filed and fixed, but I 
hope this gets fixed in the future.


--Taro

Re: Potato revision 1

[Taro Fukunaga]

Taro Fukunaga wrote:


Hello, 


Also I found that several source files in the examples directory are 
gzipped which caused Make to fail until I ungzippped the files myself. 
The files are:


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/doc/mico/examples$ pwd
/usr/doc/mico/examples [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/doc/mico/examples$ find . 
-name *.gz ./interceptor/server.cc.gz ./interceptor/client.cc.gz 
./dynany/dynanytest.cc.gz ./siegel/diffs.gz ./henning/diffs.gz 
./poa/account-2/server.cc.gz ./poa/account-3/server.cc.gz 
./services/relship/simple-test.cc.gz ./services/relship/TestServer.cc.gz 
./services/relship/Documents_impl.cc.gz ./services/trader/main.cc.gz 
Cheers, Taro

Re: Potato revision 1

[Taro Fukunaga]

Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:


On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 09:48:35PM -0800, Taro Fukunaga wrote:


Taro Fukunaga wrote:



Hello, 


Also I found that several source files in the examples directory are 
gzipped which caused Make to fail until I ungzippped the files myself. 
The files are:


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/doc/mico/examples$ pwd
/usr/doc/mico/examples [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/doc/mico/examples$ find . 
-name *.gz ./interceptor/server.cc.gz ./interceptor/client.cc.gz 
./dynany/dynanytest.cc.gz ./siegel/diffs.gz ./henning/diffs.gz 
./poa/account-2/server.cc.gz ./poa/account-3/server.cc.gz 
./services/relship/simple-test.cc.gz ./services/relship/TestServer.cc.gz 
./services/relship/Documents_impl.cc.gz ./services/trader/main.cc.gz 
Cheers, Taro


You should talk to the Mico maintainer about that, not this list.

I don't think he'll do anything about it, though; it's pretty standard
policy to always compress example files.

Dan




As I'm still relatively new to Debian, I'm not sure how to find the 
maintainer of a package. How do I find the maintainer?


Only these files were gzipped. The other directories don't have 
compressed files.


-- Taro

Re: Potato revision 1

[Taro Fukunaga]

Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:


On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 07:35:36PM -0800, Taro Fukunaga wrote:

As I'm still relatively new to Debian, I'm not sure how to find the 
maintainer of a package. How do I find the maintainer?


Only these files were gzipped. The other directories don't have 
compressed files.


You can use apt: apt-cache show  (in this case,
mico-2.3.0-examples, right?).  I think it's Stephan Kulow
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.

Dan






Thanks Dan, I think I learned something today! :-)

-- Taro

Can I boot Potato with OF 1.0.5 with floppy disk?

[Taro Fukunaga]

I am trying to get my PowerCenter 120 with OF 1.0.5 to boot Potato from
(Ba floppy disk. I already have Debian installed on this machine and it
(Bworks fine with BootX. I have successfully accessed OF via a second
(Bcomputer through a printer cable (ttyb) and I use the output device as
(B/bandit/ATY,XCLAIM3DPro so it displays OF full-screen on my monitor. I
(Bam using a modified SystemDisk from the NetBSD project to get into this.
(BHowever, when i copied vmlinux.gz to a msdos floppy in Linux and try to
(Bboot off of it using the 'boot fd' command,  I get the message "can't
(Bload from this device". (As a side note, > eject fd ejects my floppy
(Bdisk -- cool!) Internal hard disk is connected to 2930 Ultra-SCSI card.
(BI have heard from NetBSD people that this is not bootable so that is why
(BI am trying a floppy disk. I am using kernel 2.2.18 downloaded and
(Bcompiled from ftp.kernel.org. I booted Linux off a floppy on this
(Bmachine about 3 years ago using LinuxPPC; floppy drive spun up much
(Bfaster than my hard disk so OF didn't time out (I didn't know that
(Btimeout values could be programatically fixed at the time). I am not
(Busing quik. when I type boot fd, I can hear the floppy drive doing
(Bsomething. 
(B
(BDoes anyone have any suggestions on how I might succeed?
(B
(BThank you for anyone's help,
(B
(B-- Taro

Re: Installing onto PowerCenter 120

[Taro Fukunaga]

> Howdy all,
(B> 
(B> I've been fighting for a few months now to get Debian PowerPC (Potato)
(B> onto a donated PowerComputing PowerCenter 120.
(B> 
(B> I've managed to have the install disks boot and run all the way through
(B> the install menus, putting the system on the hard drive.  However, on
(B> reboot the system won't boot up to Debian, giving only the
(B> "questionmark-mac" display, which I presume means it doesn't know what
(B> it should be booting.
(B> 
(B> Many references I've read talk about changing OpenFirmware settings, but
(B> I am unable to access the OpenFirmware -- hotkey sequences have resulted
(B> in either no effect, or a black screen, and the Debian rescue disk
(B> doesn't give me anything in /proc/devicetree (I think that was the
(B> path), which surprised some people I spoke to on #debian.
(B> 
(B> Others have told me I need to fool around in MacOS, but that no longer
(B> exists on this machine; and I'd like to be proud of the fact that I can
(B> use the machine with Debian alone, if possible.
(B> 
(B> Any pointers, or requests for more info, would be appreciated.
(B
(BI am running Debian on a PowerCenter 120 as well. I posted to this
(Bmailing list a few days ago but never got replies from the list. I did
(Bhowever get some replies directly. This mailing list seems to be broken;
(Beven the archives haven't been updated.
(B
(BIf you go to www.netbsd.org and go to the website for netbsd/macppc,
(Byou'll find a link to a tool written by Apple to patch OF and set some
(Binput and output settings so that you can access OF on startup. Since
(Bvideo is broken, I connect a printer cable to my other Mac and start
(BZModem on it. Input device I set to ttyb; this lets me type commands on
(Bmy other Mac which gets sent to the PowerCenter through the printer
(Bcable. I set output device to /bandit/ATY,XCLAIM3DPro since I have an
(BXClaim3D video card. This lets me see OF full screen when the monitor
(Bcable is connected to the PowerCenter. You will probably have different
(Boutput device settings. There are several hints on NetBSD/macppc website.
(B
(BThis is about as far as I've gone. I've compiled the kernel and made an
(BXCOFF and saved it to a floppy. I've tried 3 floppies so far and none
(Bhave worked whe I typed boot fd in OF.  Even typing boot fd in OF won't
(Bboot a MacOS boot floppy that works perfectly fine otherwise. 
(B
(BAll I can say is that I still need to do some hunting in this and other
(Bmailing lists for an answer to how to tell OF too boot from a floppy.
(B
(B-- Taro

XFree86 on potato

[Taro Fukunaga]

I reinstalled Potato on the following machine and can't start the mouse
(Bin X:
(B
(BMachine: PowerComputing PowerCenter 120
(BVideo:XClaim3D 8MB
(BOF: Old World
(B
(BReading an older post,  I experimented with various Devices. Only
(B/dev/adb and /dev/mouse allow me to boot into X. The color mode that
(Bworks is 16 bit. I can't move the mouse at all and there is no error
(Bmessage. My adb mouse is connected to the keyboard. I also experimented
(Bwith unchecking BootX's "disable video" (or whatever it's called).
(BConsole redraws are faster but then I can't start X.
(B
(BWhat can I put in my Device section so that I can use my mouse?
(B
(BThanks,
(B
(B-- Taro

Re: XFree86 on potato

[Taro Fukunaga]

Thank you. I am using 2.2.18, compiled from sources from kernel.org. I guess
I'll work on it tonight.

-- Taro

--Original Message--
From: Adam C Powell IV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Taro Fukunaga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: January 2, 2001 4:13:27 PM GMT
Subject: Re: XFree86 on potato


Taro Fukunaga wrote:

> I reinstalled Potato on the following machine and can't start the mouse
> in X:
>
> Machine: PowerComputing PowerCenter 120
> Video:XClaim3D 8MB
> OF: Old World
>
> [snip]
>
> What can I put in my Device section so that I can use my mouse?

The big question here is: which kernel are you using?  If 2.2.18pre21 (the
latest kernel-image in potato), then see:
http://home.munich.netsurf.de/Franz.Sirl/inputppc.html

That page will help you configure the device files, gpm and X to work with
the
new input layer, which blends all of the attached mice into a single device.
But read it carefully, some things are not straightforward, such as the
keycodes
for button-2 and -3 emulation.

If you're not using the 2.2.18pre21, I'm afraid I can't help you, maybe
someone
else.  But because it simplifies a lot of things, I recommend trying to get
it
to work with the new input layer.

HTH,

-Adam P.

Welcome to the best software in the world today cafe!


 

Re: XFree86 on potato

[Taro Fukunaga]

I am happy to say that I got the mouse in X working.  What helped was
(Bthe website mentioned below. I wish I had known about it earlier :-)
(B
(B- I edited .config in the toplevel of my 2.2.18 kernel source tree to
(Bmatch the recommended configuration settings on Franz Sirl's website,
(Bthen built and installed the kernel.
(B- I debianized (using alien) the dev rpm that made a device called
(Badbmouse. Then I edited /etc/X11/XF86Config so that the mouse device was 
(Badbmouse.
(B
(BThat's all I've done so far, except to fix my keymapping with a
(Bconfiguration file I made using xmodmap. Backspaces are fixed now on my
(BPowerComputing 105 key keyboard. If someone desperately needs this I can
(Bput it up somewhere.
(B
(BThanks to Adam and Garry for their input on this plea for help! 
(B
(B-- Taro
(B
(B
(BTaro Fukunaga wrote:
(B> 
(B> Thank you. I am using 2.2.18, compiled from sources from kernel.org. I guess
(B> I'll work on it tonight.
(B> 
(B> -- Taro
(B> 
(B> --Original Message--
(B> From: Adam C Powell IV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(B> To: Taro Fukunaga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(B> Sent: January 2, 2001 4:13:27 PM GMT
(B> Subject: Re: XFree86 on potato
(B> 
(B> Taro Fukunaga wrote:
(B> 
(B> > I reinstalled Potato on the following machine and can't start the mouse
(B> > in X:
(B> >
(B> > Machine: PowerComputing PowerCenter 120
(B> > Video:XClaim3D 8MB
(B> > OF: Old World
(B> >
(B> > [snip]
(B> >
(B> > What can I put in my Device section so that I can use my mouse?
(B> 
(B> The big question here is: which kernel are you using?  If 2.2.18pre21 (the
(B> latest kernel-image in potato), then see:
(B> http://home.munich.netsurf.de/Franz.Sirl/inputppc.html
(B> 
(B> That page will help you configure the device files, gpm and X to work with
(B> the
(B> new input layer, which blends all of the attached mice into a single device.
(B> But read it carefully, some things are not straightforward, such as the
(B> keycodes
(B> for button-2 and -3 emulation.
(B> 
(B> If you're not using the 2.2.18pre21, I'm afraid I can't help you, maybe
(B> someone
(B> else.  But because it simplifies a lot of things, I recommend trying to get
(B> it
(B> to work with the new input layer.
(B> 
(B> HTH,
(B> 
(B> -Adam P.
(B> 
(B> Welcome to the best software in the world today cafe!
(B> 
(B> 
(B> 
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