Re: thinking about installing Debian
Hi Jim, (B (BWelcome! I also used to use YDL and switched to Debian. Actually, I had been (Busing Red Hat / Fedora on my x86 box for a long time and on a lark, decided (Bto give Debian a try. I was sooo happy with how well my x86 box performed, (Bthat I immediately made plans to replace my clunky old YDL PowerBook (Binstallation with DebianPPC and haven't looked back since. Here are some (Bobservations I've made as a switcher: (B (B1) I never realized just how customized Red Hat / Fedora / YDL actually are. (BA lot of "standard" Linux instructions have to be alterred for Red Hat's (Bspecial way of doing things. This is less often the case with Debian. (B (B2) I was actually pretty surprised to see that both my machines were (B*significantly* faster under Debian than RH/F/YDL. (B (B3) If you use multiple platforms, it's really neat to have things set-up (Bexactly the same on both. My Powerbook setup is identical to my x86 desktop (Band any little tricks I learn on one box can almost always be used on the (Bother. (B (B4) Apt-get is absolutely wonderful! Yes, I know you can use apt-get for RPM (Bdistros too, but I'm tellin' ya -- it just ain't the same. Here's the (Bdifference, Debian maintains their own official repositories of over 14,000 (B(!) packages -- and they work! The other day I saw a new program I wanted to (Btry called amarok. So I fired up a console, typed "apt-get install amarok" (Band was happily running the program about 1 minute later. For me, this is (Bthe single best thing about Debian -- no more RPM dependency hell. (BApplication installation is actually *easier* than Mac or Windows. (B (B5) Now for the bad news. Debian's a bit of a pain in the ass to install. The (Bnew beta installer ( http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ ) makes (Bthings a bit easier, but you'll still have to tinker with things and use the (Bmailing lists, etc to get things going. But once you get it set-up, get X (Bworking, get your sound, network, etc. all up and running, you'll have a (Blean, mean, and FREE (http://www.debian.org/social_contract.html) Linux (Bmachine! (B (BGood luck! And let us know if we can help with anything ;-) (B (BSean (B (B-- (B_ (B: : : DataFly.Net : : : (BIndustrial-Strength Web Hosting (Bhttp://www.datafly.net
Re: Sean, I need help,configuring dhcp
Hi Jim, Whoever told I was a guru was lying ;-) If I was you, and if nobody has any more useful advice, I would try downloading the full Sarge CDs, instead of the net install. I think you only need the first 2. Anyone else got a better idea for this guy to get Debian installed? BTW Jim, you may want to prepare yourself for a bit of a haul. Once you get Debian installed, you'll still have to wrestle with X, and your mouse, and sound, etc. One step at a time -- so be patient! It'll be worth it in the end. Finally, an unrelated tip: If I remember right, the installer will ask you to select which packages you want to install using dpkg and something else -- don't bother with them except for apt-get. Once you're done, you can just apt-get whatever you want. Sean On Wednesday 02 June 2004 07:17 am, James Ricken wrote: > Hi All I am sort of in a jam > I am trying to install debian on a Mac 8600 upgraded with a sonnet G4 > 400mhz proc card. > I am using the new Debian sarge installer.I got my hd partioned > Everything went well until the installer had trouble getting a internet > connection,so it could not install base debian. > I think I must have a corrupted cd because now I rebooted the Mac and > now all the installer is stuck at "retrieving ethodetect" > Jim -- _ : : : DataFly.Net : : : Industrial-Strength Web Hosting http://www.datafly.net
Re: Ctrl Click with single button mouse
Maybe someone else can answer more authoritatively, but I seem to recall reading somewhere that it can't be done. You have to use a key on the keyboard :-( Anyone know something we don't? Sean On Thursday 03 June 2004 11:57 am, Matthew Reath wrote: > Has anybody sucessfully setup a Ctrl-Click configuration in X? I have > an old 8600 with a G4 upgrade card and also have a new Al Powerbook > with the one button trackpad. I was just curious if anybody was able to > setup Ctrl-Click to emulate the second mouse button? I was thinking you > could do it by changing the EMU_BUT2 line in the mouse emulation config > file but that seems to only take keycodes. > > Matt
Re: Debian and X-Windows
Congratulations! How do you like it? I'm not sure if this will fix your scroll wheel or not but I think you need this in the mouse section of your XF86Config-4: -- Option "Buttons" "5" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" -- In case it helps you, here's my mouse section (I use a Kensington Trackball, but I think this config is pretty generic for USB mouse w/scroll): -- Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Configured Mouse" Driver "mouse" Option "AlwaysCore" Option "USB Mice" "SendCoreEvents" Option "CorePointer" Option "Device""/dev/input/mice" Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" Option "Buttons" "5" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection -- One last thing, I don't know if Sarge includes KDE3.2 or not but if you don't have it, do yourself a huge favor: -- apt-get update; apt-get install kde -- ;-) Sean On Thursday 03 June 2004 12:40 pm, Ed Sutherland wrote: > Just wanted to report I have X up and running on my Debian system. I did a > Googled for an iMac config and used it. I'm now using KMail. One question: > how do I enable support for my wheel mouse from Logitech? Thanks. > > Ed
Re: Debian installed
Okay, your first step is to try to start X and see if it works ;-) As a normal user (not root), type startx. You'll probably get an error saying "no display found" or "mouse device not present" or something like that. Then we'll know what we gotta fix in your XF86Config-4. Sean On Friday 04 June 2004 06:05 am, James Ricken wrote: > Hello everyone > I have successfully installed Debian on my Mac 8600 using the new > installer sarge. > I am new to Debian so I do not know what to do next. > I need to configure X so I can use KDE or Gnome > Can anyone help? > Thanks Jim
Re: Debian installed
Okay, your first step is to try to start X and see if it works ;-) As a normal user (not root), type startx. You'll probably get an error saying "no display found" or "mouse device not present" or something like that. Then we'll know what we gotta fix in your XF86Config-4. Sean On Friday 04 June 2004 06:05 am, James Ricken wrote: > Hello everyone > I have successfully installed Debian on my Mac 8600 using the new > installer sarge. > I am new to Debian so I do not know what to do next. > I need to configure X so I can use KDE or Gnome > Can anyone help? > Thanks Jim -- _ : : : DataFly.Net : : : Industrial-Strength Web Hosting http://www.datafly.net
Re: Debian installed
You need to install X-Windows. Lucky for you, you're using Debian so it's as easy as this: apt-get update; apt-get install x-window-system Then try startx again and tell us what errors you get. On Friday 04 June 2004 08:33 am, you wrote: > Sean Schertell wrote: > >Okay, your first step is to try to start X and see if it works ;-) > > > >As a normal user (not root), type startx. You'll probably get an error > > saying "no display found" or "mouse device not present" or something like > > that. Then we'll know what we gotta fix in your XF86Config-4. > > > >Sean > > > > > >I logged in as normal user and typed startx it told me command not found. > > Jim _ : : : DataFly.Net : : : Industrial-Strength Web Hosting http://www.datafly.net
Re: Debian installed
Okay, the "no screens found" is pretty normal -- just means you don't have anything setup for your video card and monitor yet. Ya need to edit this file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4" as root user. You'll also need to do a teensy bit of research on your monitor, find out its vertical and horizontal refresh rates. For your video card, I googled for this: "ati rage 128 xf86config" and the first result says this: - Those with cards based on the Rage 128 chipset should add the lines: Chipset "ATI Rage 128" Driver "r128" - So put those 2 lines in the "Device" section Then for your monitor do something LIKE this (but with different numbers): - Section "Monitor" Identifier "AOpen F75PS" HorizSync 31-80 VertRefresh 60-75 Option "DPMS" EndSection - *** Make sure you get enter the correct values for your monitor or you could possibly damage your monitor. Then finally, in the "Screen" section, make sure your Device is "ATI Rage 128" and your DefaultDepth is 24 (or try 16 if that doesn't work). Good Luck! Sean On Friday 04 June 2004 09:55 am, you wrote: > Sean Schertell wrote: > >You need to install X-Windows. Lucky for you, you're using Debian so it's > > as easy as this: > > > >apt-get update; apt-get install x-window-system > > > >Then try startx again and tell us what errors you get. > > > > > > > > > >I typed startx and this is what I got. > > fatal server error: no screens found > > >_ > > > >: : : DataFly.Net : : : > > > >Industrial-Strength Web Hosting > >http://www.datafly.net
Re: pico
The neat thing about pico is that it shows you all the commands at the bottom of the screen. If you wanna do it in a GUI editor, just open it up in your editor as root like this: kdesu kwrite /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 "kdesu" allows you to open apps with root permissions. "kwrite" is a simple GUI text editor. "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4" the file you wanna edit. Good luck, Sean On Monday 07 June 2004 08:19 am, James Ricken wrote: > Hi all > Can anyone tell me how to use pico? > I am trying to edit my X1186Config-4 file so I can try to get x to work > I have'nt a clue on how to use pico so I can see the X11 86Config-4 text. > Jim
Re: pico
> I don't think he _can_ do it in a gui editor, since he's editing > XF86Config-4 in order to get X to work. Wow, I think it's time for me to put on my giant conical hat with the letter "D" printed on it... Anyway, in Pico, make sure you "su" to become root first or you won't be able to save the file. Then back-up your original like this: cp /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.orig now type: pico /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 And just use your arrow keys to move the cursor, backspace to delete text (or ctrl-K to delete a whole line of text). ctrl-X to quit (you'll be prompted to save as...) -- _ : : : DataFly.Net : : : Industrial-Strength Web Hosting http://www.datafly.
Re: pico
(B> And man Debian is alot quicker than YDL 3.0. (BIsn't it great?! (B (B> >My resolution is just a tad too small to read ,looks like it is set at (B> > 1280x1024 (BEdit your XF86Config-4 (back it up first), then kill X with ctrl-alt-backspace (B(everything's saved?!). If you need to type "startx" to launch X again. (B (B> I used apt to get kde installed will that automatically start when I log (B> in or what do you have to do? (BIf it's not automatic, type "startx" for now, ya might need to add the line (B"startkde" to the end of your "~/.xsession" file. (B (B> I am as happy as a Lark right now! (BHooray! (B (B-- (B_ (B: : : DataFly.Net : : : (BIndustrial-Strength Web Hosting (Bhttp://www.datafly.
Re: pico
(B> Debian Rocks! (B> Now I tried to install gnome from chicago.edu mirror that is where I got (B> all my software from (B> I live around Wichita ,Kansas (B> That chicago mirror came back with and error that some files could not (B> be found. (B> Where can I get gnome at? (B> I also need to change my mirror to something else Can you help? (B> I know you have been a great help so far (B (BHere's my "/etc/apt/sources.list": (B-- (B (Bdeb ftp://ftp.jp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib (Bdeb-src ftp://ftp.jp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib (Bdeb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib (Bnon-free (Bdeb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib (Bnon-free (B (Bdeb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free (B (B-- (BGet rid of the line breaks. Every line should start with "deb". Also. I live (Bin Japan so you should just change the first 2 lines from "ftp.jp" to (B"ftp.us". Don't forget to run "apt-get update" after you do that and also (Bremove or comment out the old servers. (B (BAre you sure you want to install Gnome? If you're not gonna use it, you might (Bwant to reconsider. Installing gnome caused some trouble for me. (B (BSean (B (B (B (B-- (B_ (B: : : DataFly.Net : : : (BIndustrial-Strength Web Hosting (Bhttp://www.datafly.
Re: configuring sound
On Tuesday 08 June 2004 08:15 am, James Ricken wrote: > Hi people > How does a guy configure sound on Debian? > Jim First step is to figure out what kind of sound card you have, then use modconf to enable appropriate modules for your card. Sean -- : : : : : DataFly.Net : : : : : Complete Web Services http://www.datafly.net
Re: configuring sound
Hmm... ya got me. Anyone else know where the list of mirrors is? On Tuesday 08 June 2004 09:28 am, you wrote: > On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 08:58:25 +0900, Sean Schertell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > First step is to figure out what kind of sound card you have, then use > > modconf > > to enable appropriate modules for your card. > > > > Sean > > I think it is it was called awacs On YDL 3.0. > Sean, > I tried using the mirrors that you gave me for apt > But they did not work for some reason. > How do you find others? > From Dselect? -- : : : : : DataFly.Net : : : : : Complete Web Services http://www.datafly.net
Re: start here icon deleted
On Sunday 13 June 2004 09:14 pm, you wrote: > On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 09:37:34 +0900, Sean Schertell > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > Hmm... ya got me. Anyone else know where the list of > > mirrors is? > > Hi Sean > > Hey I screwed up and deleted my Start- Here Icon > How do you get back to that program that was using the > start -here icon? > > Oh yeah I figured out how to change my mirror for apt. > > No luck on sound yet. > Jim Sorry, I don't know that one either. BTW, you should make sure you post to the list here: debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org ...instead of sending to my email address. That way everyone can try to help. Cheers, Sean -- : : : : : DataFly.Net : : : : : Complete Web Services http://www.datafly.net
Re: configuring sound
On Monday 14 June 2004 09:27 pm, Jim Ricken wrote: > Hi everyone > Can anyone help me out > I am to add sound to my new Debian system,I know what > kind of sound card I have,I just do not know how to > configure it in Debian. Can anyone show me how to do it? > Thanks . > Jim Hey Jim, you might wanna try apt-get installing all the ALSA packages, and then run "alsaconf" which attempts to auto configure your sound card. There are lots of tutorials too if you google for ALSA. Maybe someone else can give you better advice though. Good luck :-) Sean -- : : : : : DataFly.Net : : : : : Complete Web Services http://www.datafly.net
Did installing MOL *totally* trash my system?
Oh no After spending countless hours fine-tuning my new Debian SID install, now my Powerbook won't boot in to Linux :-( Everything was fantastic -- sound, sleep, kde 3.2.3, everything! But then I got curious and tried to apt-get install mol. It installed the 2.4.25 kernel along with it and so I figured I'd better reboot to get that going. Well, now it won't boot at all! Here's what happens when I try to boot Linux: 1) Mac Chime 2) Yaboot selection menu appears 3) I type lowercase "L" to boot into Linux 4) Welcome to Yaboot message, Loading Kernel... -- then suddenly -- 5) The screen turns white! 6) A few lines of errors which are slightly different each time I do this but something like this: opening display /[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ATY, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Stone_B. . . ok copying OF device tree. . . done Calling quiesce returning 0x0140 from prom_init DEFAULT CATCH!, code300 at %SRR0: 01403930 %SRR1_ What happened? How can I rescue my TiBook? Help!!! Sean -- : : : : : DataFly.Net : : : : : Complete Web Services http://www.datafly.net
[SOLVED!] Re: Did installing MOL *totally* trash my system?
Hey Thanks Guys! Typing "old" before the kernel loaded boots me back into my old kernel and works great. So now I'll play around with making sure I've got a kernel with a matching mol module and see if I can get that working. Thanks again for saving my installation! Sean -- : : : : : DataFly.Net : : : : : Complete Web Services http://www.datafly.net
Now kernel 2.6.6 won't boot
I got the initrd line added to my yaboot.conf, so that hurdle has been cleared. But now, a little further along the boot process, comes this screen full of errors like: modprobe: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/something... modprobe: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/something... modprobe: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/something... modprobe: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/something... modprobe: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/something... modprobe: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/something... modprobe: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/something... modprobe: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/something... (times about a hundred or so) then kernel panic :-( Any ideas? Sean -- : : : : : DataFly.Net : : : : : Complete Web Services http://www.datafly.net
Re: Now kernel 2.6.6 won't boot
On Sunday 20 June 2004 05:20 pm, Jens Schmalzing wrote: > Hi, > > Sean Schertell writes: > > I got the initrd line added to my yaboot.conf, so that > > hurdle has been cleared. But now, a little further > > along the boot process, comes this screen full of > > errors like: > > > > modprobe: FATAL: Could not open > > '/lib/modules/something... > > > > (times about a hundred or so) > > > > then kernel panic :-( > > > > Any ideas? > > You are being bitten by a bug in module-init-tools > 3.1-pre2-1. Revert to 3.0-pre10-4 for the time being. Thanks Jens -- How can I revert? If I try to remove my current module-init-tools, it tries to take my 2.6.6 kernel with it. Also where can I find a PPC deb of 3.0-pre10-4 ??? Sean -- : : : : : DataFly.Net : : : : : Complete Web Services http://www.datafly.net
Re: thinking about installing Debian
> The one item preventing me from trying Debian is the X-Windows > configuration horrors. Well... I dunno about "horrors" ;-) I think people tend to overstate these things about Debian installation. The thing is, it won't auto-detect your hardware. So that just means you have to edit your XF86Config-4 manually, that's all. If you have a Mac, then it's usually as simple as finding a Linux user that has the same model Mac as you do, and copying-n-pasting parts of their XF86Config-4 into yours. Like I said, it takes a bit of work to get everything working because it won't auto-detect your hardware. But you only have to do it once, and in my opinion... it's really worth it to have a fast, solid Debian system instead of (in my experience) a remarkably easy to install, but notoriously flaky, slow, and "clunky" Red Hat 9 system that's been sloppily ported to PPC. Talk about horrors! If you're running YDL right now, I dare you to try and upgrade KDE to 3.2 ;-) Go ahead, try! (heh heh, good luck!) With Debian, I literally typed "apt-get install kde", and about 20 or 30 minutes later it was done. Sorry to sound like a raving lunatic... it's not like Debian is the Second Coming or anything. It's just that for me, Debian works very reliably where other distros (particularly YDL) did not. > Are there any PPC-oriented FAQs or tips that can > ease one into X on Debian? Not sure about X specifically (just gotta find the specs for your harware and put 'em in your config... not so difficult), but there's lot's of good info on the links on this page: http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/ Cheers, Sean -- _ : : : DataFly.Net : : : Industrial-Strength Web Hosting http://www.datafly.net
Re: X Configuration
Just a stab in the dark -- and don't blame me if this trashes your system ;-) But if I were you, I'd make sure your x-windows is up to date. apt-get update; apt-get install x-window-system On Friday 02 July 2004 10:25 am, David Ramsey wrote: > Hey guys, I wrote earlier about an X Window > Installation. I followed your advice and 'startx' > works without issue now. Thanks to everyone for their > help. > > Anyways, I wonder if you guys might could do me one > more favor. When I do start X, the screen is > flickering and is displayed in very strange colors. > The mouse cursor is wavy as if it were underwater. > Trippy, but useless. :-) > > I have tried 3 or 4 different XF86Config-4 files I've > found online, but all of them have the same result. I > was wondering if anyone with similar hardware could > give me their XF86Config-4? > > I have a 15" Powerbook 867 Mhz-the kind that came with > the combo drive, not the superdrive. I'll keep > fiddling with my config, but I'd really appreciate it > if someone could share their configuration with me. > Thanks again for all the help so far. > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- : : : : : DataFly.Net : : : : : Complete Web Services http://www.datafly.net
Re: pmud & pbbuttonsd confilct in sarge-testing ?
I think pbuttonsd obsoletes pmud -- because it also provides power mgmt including sleep/wake, etc. There's another little gui program you'll want to download to simplify setting up your power mgmt prefs with pbbuttonsd but I can't remember what it's called. Sean -- : : : : : DataFly.Net : : : : : Complete Web Services http://www.datafly.net On Sunday 04 July 2004 01:08 pm, Joao F. Serejo wrote: > First I would like to congratulate all deb ppc developers for > they great work. Sarge puts everithing working on my ibook > out of the box with 2.6.5 kernel image, just needed to edit > my wireless startup script and load airport module. > > The only strange thing i found after starting install the needed > packages for the laptop is: > > ibook:~# aptitude install pmud > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree > Reading extended state information... Done > The following packages will be automatically REMOVED: > apmd pbbuttonsd > The following NEW packages will be installed: > pmud > The following packages will be REMOVED: > apmd pbbuttonsd > 0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 notupgraded. > Need to get 37.5kB of archives. After unpacking 570kB will be freed. > Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] n > Abort. > > apmd i intend to purge out but even without apmd the same appens: > pmud conflict with pbbuttonsd. > > Can somebody tell if are expirience the same and if is any way > to deal with this cleanly (mean without forces). > > Thak's in advanced. > > -- > Sincerely, Joao F. Serejo, > Lisbon - PT -#
Urgent! Yaboot died, how to rescue?
Please help! I've gotta get some work done quickly but I seem to have killed my yaboot and can't boot. It's on a PowerBook, so no floppy. I got hit with the bug in module-init-tools 3.1-pre2-1 which causes this craziness: modprobe: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/something... modprobe: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/something... modprobe: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/something... modprobe: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/something... modprobe: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/something... modprobe: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/something... modprobe: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/something... modprobe: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/something... (times about a hundred or so) This happened when I tried to install 2.6.6 so for the past few weeks I've been typing "old" at the boot prompt and using an old 2.4 kernel. So now I installed the 2.7 kernel which has the same problem and to make things worse, typing old now causes the 2.6.6 kernel to boot and panic. How can I rescue my machine so I can get in and edit yaboot? Thanks! Sean -- : : : : : DataFly.Net : : : : : Complete Web Services http://www.datafly.net
Re: Urgent! Yaboot died, how to rescue?
On Saturday 10 July 2004 08:47 pm, you wrote: (B> On Saturday, July 10, 2004, at 10:07 am, Sean Schertell wrote: (B> > Please help! I've gotta get some work done quickly but I seem to have (B> > killed my yaboot and can't boot. It's on a PowerBook, so no floppy. (B> > I got (B> > hit with the bug in module-init-tools 3.1-pre2-1 which causes this (B> > craziness: (B> > (B> > modprobe: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/something... (B> > modprobe: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/something... (B> > modprobe: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/something... (B> > modprobe: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/something... (B> > modprobe: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/something... (B> > modprobe: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/something... (B> > modprobe: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/something... (B> > modprobe: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/something... (B> > (B> > (times about a hundred or so) (B> > (B> > This happened when I tried to install 2.6.6 so for the past few weeks (B> > I've (B> > been typing "old" at the boot prompt and using an old 2.4 kernel. So (B> > now (B> > I installed the 2.7 kernel which has the same problem and to make (B> > things (B> > worse, typing old now causes the 2.6.6 kernel to boot and panic. (B> > (B> > How can I rescue my machine so I can get in and edit yaboot? (B> (B> Have you got a CD you can boot from and execute a shell? If you have, (B> then you can mount the root file system on your hard drive in /mnt on (B> the CD shell's ramdisk, and then inspect your root filesystem to figure (B> out the location and proper name of your old, old, stable kernel (2.4). (B> (B> mount /dev/hda3 /mnt (B> (B> You need to establish exactly what your 2.4 kernel is called because it (B> no longer has a symbolic link pointing to it. Having mounted your root (B> filesystem in /mnt, have a look in /mnt/boot and you should find your (B> 2.4 kernel is still there. Make a note of its exact name, (mine's (B> called 'vmlinux-2.4.18-newpmac'). Reboot again from the CD, but this (B> time interrupt the boot process at yaboot (by holding down 'C' until (B> you see a load of 'C's crawling across the screen) and issue the (B> following command at the 'boot:' prompt ... (B> (B> boot: hd:3,/boot/vmlinux-2.4.18-newpmac root=/dev/hda3 defaults (B> (B> This command assumes your root filesystem is on partition 3 of your (B> internal hard drive and obviously you should use your 2.4 kernel's (B> exact name in place of mine. (B> (B> If you haven't got such a CD you can download the one I use from here. (B> It's actually a net-installer boot CD. Just choose 'Execute a shell' (B> from the menu to perform the first phase. (B> (B> http://penguinppc.org/~eb/files/boot-new-powermac-xfs.iso (B> (B> Obviously, you need OSX to burn it to disk (I used Toast) but once (B> you've done that you should be able to carry out the procedure I've (B> described above (B> (B> Good luck, (B> (B> sebyte (B (BThanks so much for your help Sebyte (and Colin). Unfortunately, neither (Bmethod seems to work for me. Colin's method looks like it's gonna work (Bbut then panics for some reason. Sebyte's method looks good up until I (Btry to mount my filesystem --- there's nothing useful in /dev :-( No (Bhda-anything, just "cdroms", "floppy", "null", and about 20 other misc (Bthings but no HDs... what now, Doc? (B (BSean
Re: Urgent! Yaboot died, how to rescue?
Oh man.. This just keeps getting dumber :-( (B (BYou were right Sebyte, I needed to use your ISO, not the one I had. So I (Bwas able to mount my fs, but then in an effort to change my initrd.img.old (Bsymlink, I accidentally hosed my real initrd.img-2.4.25-powerpc! Doh! (BAnd of course this ramdisk version of linux doesn't have mkinitrd either (Bso I'm screwed until one of you kind souls bail me out. (B (BAnyone wanna be charitable and email me an initrd.img-2.4.25-powerpc? (B (BThanks... and sorry for the hassle. (B (BSean (B (B (BOn Saturday 10 July 2004 10:31 pm, Sebastian Tennant wrote: (B> > Thanks so much for your help Sebyte (and Colin). Unfortunately, (B> > neither method seems to work for me. Colin's method looks like it's (B> > gonna work but then panics for some reason. Sebyte's method looks (B> > good up until I try to mount my filesystem --- there's nothing useful (B> > in /dev :-( No hda-anything, just "cdroms", "floppy", "null", and (B> > about 20 other misc things but no HDs... what now, Doc? (B> > (B> > Sean (B> (B> All I can suggest is to download and burn the iso I already mentioned. (B> I just checked and the ramdisk created when I execute a shell includes (B> (B> /dev/hda (B> /dev/hda1 (B> . (B> . (B> . (B> /dev/hda20 (B> (B> so mounting my root partition is a snip. (B> (B> Sorry I can't be more help. (B> (B> sebyte (B (B-- (B: : : : : DataFly.Net : : : : : (BComplete Web Services (Bhttp://www.datafly.net
Re: Urgent! Yaboot died, how to rescue?
I tried this: linux root=/dev/hda11 But still no joy... On Saturday 10 July 2004 11:47 pm, Rafael Ávila de Espíndola wrote: > Em Saturday 10 July 2004 11:09, Sean Schertell escreveu: > > Oh man.. This just keeps getting dumber :-( > > > > You were right Sebyte, I needed to use your ISO, not the one I had. > > So I was able to mount my fs, but then in an effort to change my > > initrd.img.old symlink, I accidentally hosed my real > > initrd.img-2.4.25-powerpc! Doh! And of course this ramdisk version of > > linux doesn't have mkinitrd either so I'm screwed until one of you > > kind souls bail me out. > > > > Anyone wanna be charitable and email me an initrd.img-2.4.25-powerpc? > > > > Thanks... and sorry for the hassle. > > > > Sean > > You could try to boot from the cd and pass the root option to the > kernel. > > linux root="your root partition" > > > Rafael -- : : : : : DataFly.Net : : : : : Complete Web Services http://www.datafly.net
Re: Urgent! Yaboot died, how to rescue?
Well that chroot and then apt-get trick is pretty neat. But no network = no new kernel. I guess I'll see if I can get the network up, then fire up the shell, then mount my partition, then chroot into it, then apt-get my kernel, then fix yaboot --- ugh.. hope I can figure out how to bring up the network. On Sunday 11 July 2004 12:06 am, Rafael Ávila de Espíndola wrote: > Em Saturday 10 July 2004 11:55, Sean Schertell escreveu: > > I tried this: > > linux root=/dev/hda11 > > > > But still no joy... > > Boot with the cdrom, mount /dev/hda11 and chroot into it. Now you may > "apt-get install" a kernel. > > Good luck. > > Rafael -- : : : : : DataFly.Net : : : : : Complete Web Services http://www.datafly.net
[SOLVED] Re: Urgent! Yaboot died, how to rescue?
Thank you thank you thank you!!! My mac is back in action and kde is purring... :-) Thanks again guys! Sean On Sunday 11 July 2004 12:06 am, Rafael Ávila de Espíndola wrote: > Em Saturday 10 July 2004 11:55, Sean Schertell escreveu: > > I tried this: > > linux root=/dev/hda11 > > > > But still no joy... > > Boot with the cdrom, mount /dev/hda11 and chroot into it. Now you may > "apt-get install" a kernel. > > Good luck. > > Rafael -- : : : : : DataFly.Net : : : : : Complete Web Services http://www.datafly.net
Re: [SOLVED] Re: Urgent! Yaboot died, how to rescue?
(B> Perhaps you can explain initrd kernel images to me one day :-) (BIf I had a clue, I most certainly would. Thanks for your help ;-) (B-- (B: : : : : DataFly.Net : : : : : (BComplete Web Services (Bhttp://www.datafly.net
Re: how do I get a Sid package on a Woody system?
On Saturday 31 July 2004 06:29 am, Eric D. Hedekar wrote: > I've been wanting to get AMSN messenger > (http://amsn.sourceforge.net/) running on my woody system however the > .deb package is only available throught the Sid package list. I > don't know how to program or compile from source code and when I > attempt to install the package manually I get stuck in dependency > hell. Is there any way to alter the apt-get package list so as to be > able to get this program? Thanks. Sure, no sweat. Just edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and wherever you see the word "stable", change it to "unstable". Then "apt-get update", then "apt-get install the_package_you_want". After your done, don't forget to change your source.list back to the way it was and apt-get update again. But I think there's an even easier way. Try this before trying the method above: apt-get install -t unstable the_package_you_want By the way, unless you're using your box for some hardcore mission critical server or something, you might want to upgrade to testing or unstable for a much nicer desktop experience. Very easy, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list so that all instances of stable say "testing" or "unstable" (depending on if you want Sarge or SID), then do this: apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade Have fun! Sean -- : : : : : DataFly.Net : : : : : Complete Web Services http://www.datafly.net
Re: How to Back Up SQL Databases and Firewall
> How do I back-up my MySQL databases to a CD disc? Use PHPMyAdmin to export your db to a file on your HD. Then burn that file. > Also, what is the best firewall app for Gnome users? Firestarter is the very nicest GUI firewall I've seen. Just check the boxes for ports you want enabled/disabled, etc. Really nice and simple. Sean -- : : : DataFly.Net : : : Complete Web Services http://www.datafly.net -- : : : DataFly.Net : : : Complete Web Services http://www.datafly.net
Tips for a PPC newbie?
Hi fellow Debianers, This is my first post to the list. I switched to Debian from Fedora about 2 months ago on my x86 box and just couldn't be happier -- what a joy to use debian with apt-get after Fedora with RPM hell. So now of course, I'm ready to wipe Yellow Dog off my TiBook and get Debian up and running there too! Here are some basic questions I have about getting started: 1) Is it possible to get a 2.6 kernel, Debian SID, KDE 3.2 with *perfect* sleep/wake functionality, sound, and hardware accel graphics on my TiBook 550MHz? 2) I have a superfast (28Mb/sec) internet connection, what's the best install path for me? Download ISO's? If so, where are the SID for PPC ISO's? 3) I saw some great links on the Debian site for installing to iBooks and a TiBook3, any other links I should know about before I start? If not, does anyone have any advice about installing SID to a TiBook (especially a 550)? Thanks in advance! Sean Schertell -- _ : : : DataFly.Net : : : Industrial-Strength Web Hosting http://www.datafly.net
Re: (subtitle: Britannia Rules the Waves)
Yikes, I just joined this list a couple of days ago. I hope it's not always like this... Does anyone have anything interesting to say about... oh, let's see umm.. well, Debian PPC for example? :-D On Wednesday 21 April 2004 09:14, Joshua Narins wrote: > Did one A Hitler really end all Hitler-like behavior? > > > > -Original Message- > From: David Pye [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tue 4/20/04 7:52 PM > To: debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org > Cc: > Subject: Re: (subtitle: Britannia Rules the Waves) > > I avoided the temptation to apply to your obvious troll, the first time I > saw it, but seeing as this has turned into a thread, I have more motivation > to respond, if just to try to put the matter to sleep. > > > Absolutely, but the reason for my "diatribe" was the tone of admonition > > in Mr Pye's note. Netiquette is if you can provide help, do so, > > otherwise stay quiet and do not use capital letters to pile on the advice > > seeker's agony. > > Fortunately, I do not have to listen to anybody else's wonderful > suggestions as to how to respond to posters. > > Seeing as you could offer neither help, nor any kind of advice, even if > harshly worded request to use English, and demonstrate some kind of > intelligent thought in phrasing the question, to the original poster, > surely your post is more redundant than mine? > > > Here is what David Pye wrote: > > > c) Even ignoring a and b, you have given insufficient information for > > > anyone to even ATTEMPT to guess what your problem might be. > > > > If someone has "given insufficient information" for the problem to be > > diagnosed, you could - if you have an idea - indicate what further > > information is required. If you have no clue, do not admonish, someone > > else might be able to provide help. If information is insufficient "for > > anyone to even ATTEMPT to guess what [the advice seeker's] problem might > > be", the poor mug will get no response at all from anybody! I understand > > no French myself, so I could not have provided help on this occasion even > > in the unlikely case I knew the solution. > > Unlike you, I am more than able to understand what the poster said, and the > general uselessness of his question is what actually irritated me, *FAR* > more than that it was in French. Had it been a well-written post in French, > I might even have decided to reply to it, rather than point out the > posters' lack of netiquette. > > If more information was needed, then again, some suggestions might have > been offered. But for someone to be deluded enough to think that "My > network doesn't work. Can anyone advise?" is sufficient information, then > they deserve what was, based upon net tradition, a fairly mild admonishment > ;) > > > I am a sole Apple Mac user and it is a debian-powerPC list, and even > > Debian on a Wintel machine is not relevant to me or to this list, and > > neither Iraq nor Anglo-American colonial pursuits can even remotely be > > construed to have a relevance here, but I suspect Mr David Pye's wrath > > was about the use of the French language, and wrath has no place in this > > list either. If the language used in a particular posting is > > inappropriate, it is for the custodians of the list to take it up with > > the poster. > > I dont have any dislike of French - I suspect your paranoia is caused by > some other reason, which I have no intention to delve into here. It > appears obvious to me by your distinctly odd and politically charged reply > that you lack familiarity with the internet mailing lists, and their > general standard of discussion, or debate. > > I speak reasonable French, and have no dislike of it whatsoever, and in > this case, you are better off keeping your mistaken 'suspicions' of > people's intentions to yourself. Rather than flagging up my suspected > prejudice, you have rather more revealed your own. > > > -- Ashesh Kumar Datta > > Anyway, as a suggestion I spotted in a previous post pointed out: > > Adolf Hitler > Nazism > > Godwin's law. > > Seeing as this discourse moves in no direction towards Debian PPC > greatness, let's leave it to rest. > > David
Re: 2.6 kernel-image packages
apt-get is your friend ;-) On Sunday 02 May 2004 11:24 am, jmdeleu wrote: > Where are these 2.6 kernel-image packages ? I couldn't find > them on debian.org. > > friendly, > > -- > > jean-michel -- _ : : : DataFly.Net : : : Industrial-Strength Web Hosting http://www.datafly.net
XF86Config for TiBook 550, please?
Does anyone have a working XF86Config for one of the old 550 MHz TiBooks yoiu could post for me? So far I'm loving the PPC debian, but how to detect my monitor/video card and get X11 going? Thanks! Sean
Re: XF86Config for TiBook 550, please?
Hmm.. thanks Tim.. it helps. But doesn't anyone out there have a Ti550 or 667 so I can see the video section of XF86Config? Perty pleez? On Sunday 09 May 2004 01:11 am, you wrote: > On Sat, May 08, 2004 at 22:37 (+0900), Sean Schertell wrote: > > Does anyone have a working XF86Config for one of the old 550 MHz TiBooks > > yoiu could post for me? > > This is for my 15.2" (1280x853) ATI radeon chip 800MHz TiBook. It > might help you > > Tim Brown
PowerBook won't sleep, where to start?
I apt-get installed pmud, and it started. But when I type sleep or close the lid, it just keeps running -- same after restart. TiBook 550 Debian PPC (from sarge beta4 installer) KDE 3.2.2 How should I troubleshoot this? Is there a kernel module I'm missing?
