Re: [ANN] BootX 1.1.2 released

[Hubert Figuiere]

According to Benjamin Herrenschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> The new BootX is finally here, it's at
> . 
[...]
> Note to distribution makers (especially Debian): The archive is still
> compressed with Stuffit (proprietary), I'm looking for a simple and
> efficient way of compressing Mac files (with types/creators and resource
> forks) with only free tools. There's a MacGzip but it cannot tar, so it's
> pretty messy (I may have an outdated version). If someone has an
> solution, I'll be glad to distribute the next version in a free format.

Suntar can do it. OK suntar is NOT free software, but it is
freeware and can make tar files. I also remember that version
1.3.1 is available as source code.

Othersolution may be to use ZipIt, but it is shareware (and no
source). But it makes use of zip (unzip is in Debian non-free).



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Re: Phase 5 Statement on Linux for PowerPC

[Hubert Figuiere]

According to Geert Uytterhoeven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> > Another possibility I thought of is semi-emulating the ThinkPad 860.
> > There's 4.3G SCSI *laptop* HDDs now, apparently. And we all know SCSI
> > beats IDE any day. Sooo.. well.. you know where I'm going. (The ThinkPad
> > 860 (603/166) has a 2x SCSI2 CD-ROM and a 2.5G SCSI2 HDD.)
> 
> Are you aware of pricing for 2.5" SCSI HDs? If I want a new replacement for 
> the
> dead 540 MB disk in my DEC UDB, it would cost about 250 EUR (fortunately a 
> friend had a spare 340 MB disk lying around). Not to mention pricing for 
> multi-GB
> disks.


I have seen a vendor selling 2.5" SCSI HD for a more reasonable
price It appears that those were IDE HD with IDE<->SCSI
micro-converter put on it (they did not hide this fact).
3.2GB cost $349.

See 


Hope this helps.

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Re: Congrat to Daniel Jacobowitz

[Hubert Figuiere]

According to Daniel Jacobowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Sat, Dec 18, 1999 at 06:16:53PM -0800, j a m b i wrote:
> > congrates dan.
> > i was wondering if you made any changes to the crack.linuxppc.org page as
> > I can't see any obvious changes to the HTML to indicate that you broke in.
> 
> They're there :)  But subtle.

Have a look at the score board :=)
You have the number of cracks.

Congrat Dan.

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Re: New per subarch 2.4.22 powerpc kernels, please test.

[Hubert Figuiere]

On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 13:31, Sven Luther wrote:

>   2) I am not sure about the miboot kernel image, there is a
>   miboot.image in arch/ppc/boot/images, but i am being told that just
>   gziping the standard vmlinux would do also.


Last time I tried miboot.image build myself it did not boot. I'll try
this one later this week to let you know.

My biggest problem is AHA2930B (SCSI controller) support in the kernel
that seemed to be missing from any pre-build package I found beside
2.2.20

AHA2930B is the only reason I use miboot instead of quik.


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Re: New per subarch 2.4.22 powerpc kernels, please test.

[Hubert Figuiere]

On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 13:38, Sven Luther wrote:

>  
> > Last time I tried miboot.image build myself it did not boot. I'll try
> > this one later this week to let you know.

I just wanted to add that this was with benH tree grabbed from BK.

> > 
> > My biggest problem is AHA2930B (SCSI controller) support in the kernel
> > that seemed to be missing from any pre-build package I found beside
> > 2.2.20
> > 
> > AHA2930B is the only reason I use miboot instead of quik.
> 
> Mmm, The aic7xxx_old.c driver does have a line : 
> 
>   PCI_VENDOR_ID_ADAPTEC2, PCI_DEVICE_ID_ADAPTEC2_2930U2, AHC_AIC7890,
> 
> But i suppose this is not the same (2930U2 instead of 2930B).

Here is the PCI info (/proc/pci from 2.2.20)

  Bus  0, device  17, function  0:
SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AIC-7860 (rev 1).
  Medium devsel.  Fast back-to-back capable.  IRQ 30.  Master
Capable.  Latency=32.  Min Gnt=4.Max Lat=4.
  I/O at 0x0 [0x1].
  Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x8080 [0x8080].

OF device is:
bandit/ADPT,2930BU
and it is not OF bootable :-( hence, no quik.

It seems to be in the aic7xxx driver.

Each time I tried to boot with miBoot from a pre-build 2.4 kernel it did
not find the adapter. Each I try to boot a kernel I build, (using
image.miboot, or zImage), miBoot just fails.


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Re: Problems with Totem under Gnome/DebianPPC

[Hubert Figuiere]

On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 15:33, Stefano Barale wrote:

> Thank you very much Lucas. I had to run the script (that downloads some
> libs from an external site) and now the (obviously encripted) DVD is played
> "fine" under Totem. The only problem is that I can't get any gtk-based
> application (included Totem) to play sounds. What I mean is that, once 
> I resolved the typical /dev/dsp problem, Xmms and ogg123 work fine, 
> while Totem, Evolution etc are muted. 
> I suppose this problem is soeway related with
> the startup message I get "Can't open /dev/sound/mixer"...

You should be in the "audio" group (need logout for changes to take
effect) in order. Is that the case ?


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make-kpkg failure

[Hubert Figuiere]

Hi,

I'm trying to cross-compile on Debian i386 a PowerPC kernel for a custom
hardware running Debian/ppc, using kpkg-make (because I want to install
it with dpkg).

I do a: 
$ fakeroot make-kpkg --append-to-version=+fbx --revision=+1 --arch
powerpc kernel_image

But it fails with:

if test -d
/home/hub/bklocal/kernel-ppc/linuxppc_2_4_devel_mcast-current/debian/image.d ; 
then\
 IMAGE_TOP=debian/tmp-image
version=2.4.23-pre6+fbx\
   run-parts --verbose
/home/hub/bklocal/kernel-ppc/linuxppc_2_4_devel_mcast-current/debian/image.d ;  
   \
fi
if [ -x debian/post-install ]; then   \
IMAGE_TOP=debian/tmp-image version=2.4.23-pre6+fbx
debian/post-install;\
fi
cp
cp: missing file argument
Try `cp --help' for more information.
make[1]: *** [real_stamp_image] Error 1


The kernel compiles cleanly by itseld using standard kernel building
procedures.

I did not find any clues, and my attempt to trace debian/rules during
the build process have failed so far.

Thanks for any help

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Re: make-kpkg failure

[Hubert Figuiere]

Hi,


On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 14:24, Hubert Figuiere wrote:

> I'm trying to cross-compile on Debian i386 a PowerPC kernel for a custom
> hardware running Debian/ppc, using kpkg-make (because I want to install
> it with dpkg).
> 
> I do a: 
> $ fakeroot make-kpkg --append-to-version=+fbx --revision=+1 --arch
> powerpc kernel_image
> 
> But it fails with:
[...]
> cp
> cp: missing file argument
> Try `cp --help' for more information.
> make[1]: *** [real_stamp_image] Error 1

I'm replying to my self.

I'm crosscompiling, and the makefile can't guess the subarch. Anyway,
the subarch I want is not supported, I had to patch
/usr/share/kernel-package/rules

Doing that allow me to have a .deb file.

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Re: make-kpkg failure

[Hubert Figuiere]

On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 13:35, Sven Luther wrote:

> > I'm replying to my self.
> > 
> > I'm crosscompiling, and the makefile can't guess the subarch. Anyway,
> > the subarch I want is not supported, I had to patch
> > /usr/share/kernel-package/rules
> 
> Add the --subarch option to make-kpkg. Works fine for me who build
> kernel for pmac, while on a chrp machine.

Yeah, but prpmc subarch ain't available :-) Hence the patch.

> > Doing that allow me to have a .deb file.
> 
> I did that also, but you should ever read the documentation. The
> --subarch option solves this without needing to patch.

I have read the documentation.
BTW, I'll report of bug for the empty subarch thing. It should not fail
this way.


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Re: make-kpkg failure

[Hubert Figuiere]

On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 13:55, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 01:53:13PM +0200, Hubert Figuiere wrote:
> > On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 13:35, Sven Luther wrote:
> > 
> > > > I'm replying to my self.
> > > > 
> > > > I'm crosscompiling, and the makefile can't guess the subarch. Anyway,
> > > > the subarch I want is not supported, I had to patch
> > > > /usr/share/kernel-package/rules
> > > 
> > > Add the --subarch option to make-kpkg. Works fine for me who build
> > > kernel for pmac, while on a chrp machine.
> > 
> > Yeah, but prpmc subarch ain't available :-) Hence the patch.
> 
> Mmm, what is this one, what kernel do you use, and how do you boot into
> it ?

PrPMC 750 PCI Mezzanine card (Motorola)
<http://mcg.motorola.com/cfm/templates/datasheet.cfm?PageID=1147&ProductID=68&PageTypeID=3>.
 I use devel tree out of BK tree on bkbits.net. It is a MontaVista port, but 
now in the main PPC tree.
It boots using Motorola PPCBug, using "zImage.pplus" kernel dd'ed onto
the first partition of the CompactFlash card.

> Sending the patch to Manoj, the kernel-package maintainer would also be
> a good idea.

I will see. Possibly. That'll help me not patching every system we might
want to build on.



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Re: Second round of powerpc subarch investigation : boot-loaders.

[Hubert Figuiere]

On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 09:13, Sven Luther wrote:

> Ok thanks for this response, this clearly clarifies the situation for
> oldpmac, altough i don't really think this will modify our strategy for
> oldpmac : miboot or bootx for initial install, quik for running systems
> and miboot for those not supporting quik.

If the miBoot kernel could have a driver for Adaptec AHA2930B, it would
be great. I currently use miBoot on my PowerCenter Pro 240 to boot in
the disk that is on the AHA2930B solely because the 2930B can't be
booted from OpenFirmware (due to lack of firmware) [1]. Not providing
kernel that support this card is lack screwing everything up (the one I
use comes from Woody and had it).

If only I could finally build a kernel that can boot with miBoot, I'd
not have the problem.

Hub

[1] I don't consider BootX as an option. MacOS 8/9 will someday be
completely wipped out from this machine as I no longer use it nor intend
to.

Re: evolution and ical

[Hubert Figuiere]

On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 13:19, Jean-Christophe Michel wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> What is the good solution to have some people exchange their calendars
> when they use iCal or Evolution ?
> Is there any free solution ?

Just exchange the .ics files.
For iCal they are in ~/Library/Calendars

You can send them by e-mail.

Hub

Re: radeon 9600 and XFree

[Hubert Figuiere]

On mer, 2003-11-05 at 11:18, Michel Dänzer wrote:

> > Is it a PlanB video problem, like say Brad Boyer ?
> 
> No, as Michel Lanners said, PlanB is OldWorld hardware.

It is the analog video capture chipset that was in Power Mac
7500/8500/9500
I think it is found in earlier hardware too.


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Re: Netscape 4.7x for Debian/PPC?

[Hubert Figuiere]

On lun, 2003-11-10 at 14:17, Martin-Éric Racine wrote:

> I them wrote a short and polite e-mail requesting that they stop scripting 
> with
> specific browsers in mind and instead rely upon W3C standards.  I even pointed
> out that since they are a Tech Jobs site, then they really ought to accomodate
> whatever geeks are using and not force everyone to keep an old version of NS.
> 
> Never even got _one_ reply back.

What did you expect ?

It took 2 years to a banking site (on of the biggest bank here) to
accomodate Mozilla, because they just wrote crappy JavaScrap. 

Another day, I was reading a "news" website that had some hardcoded crap
that yielded 2 messages boxes each time you read the page if you were
running Konqueror (or other non Netscape/IE browser). Other than that it
worked fine. When I e-mailed the webmaster, he replied "I will not waste
5 minutes to accomodate 5 users. Nobody complained". I think that I
never returned since.


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Re: 12" G4 iBook - AirPort Extreme support

[Hubert Figuiere]

On mer, 2003-11-19 at 22:23, Thomas Otto wrote:
> >  - AirPort Extreme support
> 
> IIRC this won't happen since Broadcom is refusing to release specs for 
> it :/ (which is why I'll stick to my 700Mhz G3 iBook).
> 
> See 
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2003/debian-powerpc-200308/msg00789.html
> 
> ...maybe write a mail to Apple/Broadcom for some larting.

Apple probably don't give a sh*t to the problem. Otherwise we would have
the driver in Darwin...

As for Broadcom, I'm not sure it'll be easy. They apparently don't care
at all.

Probably the same problem as with NVidia.


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Re: 12" G4 iBook

[Hubert Figuiere]

On jeu, 2003-11-20 at 10:04, Kristian Peters wrote:
> Guillaume Morin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
> > -maltivec allows acces to the Altivec ABI. But gcc cannot perform
> > auto-vectorization on its own (yet). So compiling -maltivec won't change
> > anything if the code does not contain Altivec instructions (in the form
> > of assembly instructions or their C versions). And in that case, it
> > would not even compile without -maltivec :)
> 
> Just out of interest. How does Apple compile their software optimized for 
> Altivec 
> since they're using gcc too ? I don't think they have much assembly in their 
> code. ;-)

Apple do use its own version of gcc, where lot of changes in both front-end 
and back-end have not been integrated into gcc yet.


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Re: 12" G4 iBook - AirPort Extreme support

[Hubert Figuiere]

On jeu, 2003-11-20 at 11:08, Soeren Sonnenburg wrote:

> hmmhh but why did they write a GPLed bcm4401 driver then ? I mean where
> is the difference for them in supporting one device but not the other ?!

Probably because bcm4401 is targetted at servers and that servers are more 
likely to run Linux and *BSD than laptops and others. Wifi is more likely 
to be found on laptop and desktops than on servers. And guess what most 
laptop/desktop runs ?


:-/

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Re: Linux on new powerbooks

[Hubert Figuiere]

On mer, 2003-11-26 at 01:53, B. Bogart wrote:

> Features that I would like:
> airport extreme support

Forget airport Extreme. These run with a Broadcom chipset, 
and Broadcom is not willing to disclose documentation to
write drivers to support these.

Badge Broadcom. And blame them.


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Re: 12" PB less supported than 15", 17" ?

[Hubert Figuiere]

On jeu, 2003-12-11 at 01:45, David Pye wrote:

> Admittedly sleep would be nice.

I can't imagine using a laptop that can't go to sleep. That is one of
the reason I love laptops: bring your computer everywhere and don't
waste time bringing back you workspace. That is one of the reason I
never switch off my PC (Debian of course) at work.


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First Install help

[Hubert Figuiere]

I can't find an installation doc for Debian PowerPC...

I have a question: how do I setup base system ? I have a Linux
PPC R4 (Redhat based) installed. I have created a 150 MB
partition to expand the 'base2_1.tgz file I grabbed from the
debian archive. When I reboot using this partition as root
partition, I am stuck saying that it is unconfigured. How can I
configure it ? (from an already booted Linux).
My goal is to be able to run "dselect" and load the rest of the
system using "apt" :=) and after that help contributing to debian
PowerPC (I'm using it on Intel right now)

A pointer to a documentation for would nice too.

Thanks


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Re: First Install help

[Hubert Figuiere]

According to MURATA Nobuhiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I also try to install Debian/powerpc.
> 
> LinuxPPC R4 is in /dev/sdb5 and I install Debian to /dev/sdd5.
> 
> What I do in LinuxPPC R4 is as below;

Thanks.
I was about to do something like this based on my Intel
workstation setup. 

I followed you steps and it works well.

May I suggest to put instruction like this somewhere on the FTP
or the web ?

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xbase-clients

[Hubert Figuiere]

Package xbase-clients is NOT available, but required for the
xserver-fb, xfonts-* and other X11 paraphanelia...

Can anybody tell me were to find it ?

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/dev/hda* bugs in base.tgz

[Hubert Figuiere]

I downloaded the latest base2_1.tgz. I found that there is no
/dev/hda* after /dev/hda8... This caused me trouble because my
root partition for Debian is /dev/hda10 (I also have hda11 and
hda12).

Shall I report this in the Debian bug tracking or not (what is
the exact name of the package ?).

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Re: Single-button mouse

[Hubert Figuiere]

According to Blackie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> I would like to ask if there is any method to emulate 3 buttons
> on a single button Mac adbmouse (gpm, XFBDev).

Left and right  while clokcing emulates button 2 and 3.
-2 and -3 also wroks (for those without right
 like me).



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Re: Single-button mouse

[Hubert Figuiere]

According to Georg Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Hubert Figuiere wrote:
> 
> >Left and right  while clokcing emulates button 2 and 3.
> >-2 and -3 also wroks (for those without right
> > like me).
> 
> Hmm. Doesn't work for me. Anything needed to enable that feature?

I found that it didn't too since I migrated to Debian :-( This is REALLY 
annoying.
It seems to handle option like command which is really unlikely.

BTW, my backspace key generates a ~ :-(


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Re: Single-button mouse

[Hubert Figuiere]

According to Hartmut Koptein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >BTW, my backspace key generates a ~ :-(
> > 
> > Yup. Looks like the keymap is FUBAR. Actually I do have several keyboard
> > related problems with the new 2.2.1 kernel and the current potato. For 
> > example
> > my keymap that maps the special characters like @ and \ to the usual key
> > combinations: shift-option-1 and shit-option-7. This doesn't work anymore, 
> > so
> > I had to put the on other keys. Don't know what's going on, but there is a
> > problem with keyboard mappings.
> 
> Is this with X11 or also on console?

For me, with X11, I get a ~ when I hit backspace. Option seems to be remapped
to meta as "command" is making one button mices unusable.

This constrain me to stick to text mode (I really NEED Netscape).


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PCMCIA

[Hubert Figuiere]

Where can I find the PCMCIA Package for Debian PPC ? I'm currently stuck
without modem on my PowerBook :-(



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Re: PCMCIA

[Hubert Figuiere]

According to Anu bis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> I am going through the same situation with my PowerBook.  At the moment, 
> I am running LinuxPPC 4.1.  I just installed the pcmcia-3.0.8.src.rpm 
> from ftp.linuxppc.org (don't remember the exact dirctory it was in :( ).  
> I unpacked it using rpm -U pcmcia...

I was using Linux PPC R4 with the latest kernel, but I was fed up of 
RedHat. So I have switched to the Debian. Hence the question I'm asking.

I think I'll try to make a package from the source.



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Re: booting ...

[Hubert Figuiere]

According to Hartmut Koptein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> one question to the pmac guys:
> 
>  Will floppies from mac (68k) with auto-boot also work on pmac?
> 
> Possible not, because it is m68k-code and not pmac code!?

It wont.
The 68k emulator is in *MacOS*

PowerPC is a real RISC chips. Not some bloated hardware with legacy 
compatibility inside.


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backspace key under X

[Hubert Figuiere]

I appears that the Backspace Key under XFB_Dev is considered as a 
forward delete instead of a backspace (^H). Any idea on how to 
fix this ?


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option and command

[Hubert Figuiere]

Under XF68_FBDev, on a PowerBook 3400c command and option are 
mapped the same which cause trouble because they don't have the
same meaning, and they prevent having the second and third button.

Anyway to fix that ?
Thanks.

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Re: option and command

[Hubert Figuiere]

According to Hartmut Koptein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Under XF68_FBDev, on a PowerBook 3400c command and option are 
> > mapped the same which cause trouble because they don't have the
> > same meaning, and they prevent having the second and third button.
> 
> Please try this in /etc/X11/XF86config
> 
> # **
> # Keyboard section
> # **
> 
> Section "Keyboard"
> Protocol  "Standard"
> AutoRepeat500 5
> XkbDisable
> LeftAlt   Meta
> RightAlt  ModeShift

This works. I did do this with xmodmap. I still don't have opt-3 for button 2
and opt-click for button 3 (I may invert them with xmodmap).


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Re: debian for powerpc

[Hubert Figuiere]

According to Mikael Aaltonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> 
> Hi!
> 
> I?ve seen some mails in this list about people telling others about 
> difficulties
> in Debian PPC version. My question is that which way have you installed that 
> to 
> ppc mac if there is no available any installer (at least I haven?t find it 
> from 
> standart mirrors) ?

I did have a RedHat installed. I made room to free a partition to
put the base package and a kernel. I did make the config files as needed
(that would have been made by the installer) and set the network up.
Then I rebooted on it, plugged to the networks, and I used deselect and
downloaded apt (a needed package to do fast network installation).
Then I downloaded everything else with dselect using apt.

I must say that I also had to download some package manually because
they were not in the main archive... (like X11, glibc2.1, etc).

> I finded the packages allright, but missing the installer files; and I have 
> been
> reading that 68k mac installer doesn?t work in PPC Mac, or am I wrong?

68k Mac will NOT work. Neither will alpha, sparc on i386 work :-)



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pilot-link package

[Hubert Figuiere]

pilot-link package seems to no be available while pilot-manager
and other pilot related are (and depend on pilot-link).

Can we find somewhere PowerPC .deb package for pilot-link or
shall I compile it myself (I don't mind doing this) ?


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Re: new glibc, egcs, etc.

[Hubert Figuiere]

According to Daniel Jacobowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> The new glibc (2.1.1-0pre1.3) and egcs (2.91.63-2.2) have been uploaded
> and installed.  Go ahead and test them; let's find out what breaks.

Don't know if it is related, but leafnode currently fails on a
getpwnam(). I use leafnode 1.9.2-1 package.

This is a not a linkage problem and this happens since this
morning's update.

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Re: IMPORTANT : latest bash intall fails and bash is no more usable!!!

[Hubert Figuiere]

According to VALETTE Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> 
> I updated two debianppc system this morning and the last bash 
> version is bugged!!! (install failed...)
> 
> As a result, you cannot do su anymore which is a pain to update
> the system again. People not having other shell installed may be 
> deadlocked!!!

This happened to me this morning. bash is core dumping...
I found a work around: compiling a static bash on my LinuxPPC
server right (that is still under PPC R4) to replace the debian
supplied version...



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Re: IMPORTANT : latest bash intall fails and bash is no more usable!!!

[Hubert Figuiere]

According to Benjamin Herrenschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> dbkg -i didn't work since it tried to spawn some bash's... Only the
> already opened consoles worked.
> 
> I finally managed to sort this out by manually ftp'ing bash 2.0.2.xxx,
> unpacking it with dpkg-deb, and replacing the faulting bash 2.0.1.xxx
> with the new one.

I couldn't even reboot when this happened. I rebuilt a bash 2.0.2
directly from the source, and linked it *statically* to replace
the binary in /bin.

I still don't understand while binaries in /bin are NOT
statically linked as the should be. Have a look at what BSD does.
/bin an /sbin contains statically linked binaries :-)


Hub
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Re: IMPORTANT : latest bash intall fails and bash is no more usable!!!

[Hubert Figuiere]

According to Konstantinos Margaritis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> >I still don't understand while binaries in /bin are NOT
> >statically linked as the should be. Have a look at what BSD does.
> >/bin an /sbin contains statically linked binaries :-)
> 
> I have at least 10 shells open. Unless I am greatly mistaken,
> running 10 static bash's would be quite severe on memory use.

That's right. But I didn't say to use them exclusively. A
dynamically linked bash could be provided in /usr/bin/bash and
could be used to provide user shells. But init spaw shell to
startup daemon and all, and once they are started, those shells
are no more. The other I couldn't EVEN boot my Linux box because
of a bash that segfaulted due to a bad shared library.

When it come to recover a system that for a reason or another, it
is valuable. I know that Linux is hard to crash hard (unlike most
non-UN*X system), but it is not reason to ignore this.

Hub
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Microsoft".

XForms ?

[Hubert Figuiere]

Where can I find XForms for Linux Debian/PPC (ie compatible with
glibc2.1)
I couldn't find it, and source code is NOT available. I'm missing
LyX very much.


Thanks

Hub
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unzip

[Hubert Figuiere]

I can't find the unzip package in dselect... where is it ?
I had to compile it :-) (easy, but I had to).


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Official XFree ?

[Hubert Figuiere]

When will the offcial XFree package for PowerPC will be added to
the main dist archive ?


Hub
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Re: Official XFree ?

[Hubert Figuiere]

According to Hartmut Koptein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > When will the offcial XFree package for PowerPC will be added to
> > the main dist archive ?
> 
> If all goes cleanly then in some days; this xfree version is untested and

Those unofficial xfree works great (unaccelerated because I'm on
a laptop with C&T video).
OK, this may not be your "tested" critera.

> the debian-source package is not yet official available. 

OK, I understand the problem.


Hub
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Re: XForms ?

[Hubert Figuiere]

According to Sven LUTHER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> >  I think that linuxppc R5 had rpms for xforms at some point
> > but i might be wrong.

I couldn't find one.

> Not sure about this, but i got some linux/ppc glibc 2.1 xforms binaries from
> the official xform site, don't remember where, wanted to compile the lyx

The only one I got segfault on a ldd. So for me it is NOT a
glibc2.1 but a glibc1.99 library. 
Why the hell don't the release the source code ?


Hub
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Re: 17 inch powerbook 1.33Ghz problems

[Hubert Figuiere]

On mar, 2003-12-23 at 10:51, Sven Luther wrote:

> > * Airport Extreme: forget it ;-)
> 
> Can one of the older non Extreme airport card be used in one of the
> newer ibook/powerbooks ?

AFAIK, Airport Extreme aren't like older Airport cards thus they are not
physically compatible.
But a standard PCCard Wifi card should work in the PCCard slot on the
PowerBook.


Hub

Re: 17 inch powerbook 1.33Ghz problems

[Hubert Figuiere]

On mer, 2003-12-31 at 10:40, Colin Charles wrote:

> If I get an iBook G4 with the Airport Extreme card, can I just replace
> it with an Airport card and it'll work?

Not at all. These are *physically* different.
Look at : 
http://www.apple.com/airport/specs.html

They definitely don't look the same. Airport is PCMCIA format while
Airport Extreme is Mini-PCI.


Hub

Re: Other Linux compatible Mini PCI 802.11g (Was: Re: 17 inch powerbook 1.33Ghz problems)

[Hubert Figuiere]

On mer, 2003-12-31 at 17:15, vinai wrote:
> Okay - so we're SOL if we go with Apple's 802.11g solution as far as
> Linux support goes, as Broadcom does not want their driver specs "out
> in the wild"
> 
> But what about other mini-PCI cards ?  Googling for "mini PCI 802.11g"
> gave the company "Netgate" as the 2nd or 3rd option.  And on this page:
> 
> http://www.netgate.com/3054AriesMP.html
> 
> the card is listed as being supported by one of the Linux WIFI drivers
> (and heck, even a BSD driver).  My question is, besides twiddling with
> the driver to get it to work under PPC, what would be needed to get a
> card like this working in an iBook G4, or any other laptop with a mini
> PCI slot ?

The first question is:
Would the card fit into an iBook or PowerBook ? I suspect that Apple's
slot are not exactly mini-PCI...

Beside this, I don't see any reason why it woudln't work.

Hub
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Re: PowerBook Partition the Harddisc

[Hubert Figuiere]

On jeu, 2004-01-08 at 13:04, Christian Banik wrote:

> I want to Install Debian on my PowerBook. This is my harddisc:
> 
> /dev/hda1 Apple driver
> /dev/hda2 Apple driver
> /dev/hda3 Apple driver
> /dev/hda4 Apple driver
> /dev/hda5 Apple driver
> /dev/hda6 Apple driver
> /dev/hda7 Apple driver
> /dev/hda8 Apple driver all together, perhaps 200KiloByte.
> 
> then:
> 
> /dev/hda9 free disc space 4GB
> /dev/hda10 Apple Operating System 30GB (I want to keep MacOSX)
> /dev/hda11 AppleExtra 20KiloByte
> 
> My question: Can i delete /hda 1 to 8? Are the 8 Apple driver Partitions 
> necessary? Or shall i splitt /hda 9 as boot, swap and root partition (so that 
> i will finialy have 13  Partitions) ?

Apple driver partitions are necessary for Pre-MacOS X systems. If you
never boot into MacOS 9, you don't need them. I myself will not take the
risk and leave them. You never know, because the day you'll need them
you'll be foobared.

Unlike on PC, Mac partition scheme does not limit itself to 8 partitions
(including extended). So this is not really a problem to have 13
partitions.


Hub
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Re: mac53c94.o tainted code !?!? can someone give me some directions...

[Hubert Figuiere]

On jeu, 2004-01-15 at 16:19, Carlos Eduardo Coelho Baptista wrote:

> today i did this , turned my zip 100 on , and loaded the mac53c94 into 
> kernel... but then the surprise:
> 
> Jurema:/home/carlos# modprobe mac53c94
> Warning: loading /lib/modules/2.4.24/kernel/drivers/scsi/mac53c94.o will 
> taint the kernel: no license
>   See http://www.tux.org/lkml/#export-tainted for information about 
> tainted modules
> Module mac53c94 loaded, with warnings
> Jurema:/home/carlos#
> 
> what this means ??? that mac53c94 uses proprietary/closed-source 
> code is this bad at all?

mac53c94.c seems to not define MODULE_LICENSE, making it considered as
proprietary. Perhaps is that a (cosmetic) bug ?

Hub
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