Re: wanted: old G5 hardware for use on the ppc64 port
Hello Clemens, aside from the RAM your system is still a nice one for these type of machines, be aware you could still get quite a lot on ebay for it, the other day I saw a G4 iMac with 1.6 GhZ go away for just under 60 Euro tho (usually those go for around 100-120), yours is a much nicer one, BUT if you're still able and interested to give it away for testing I would be interested and I'm located in Germany as well. Sadly my test system, a G4 ibook, died about a month ago, so that was is for me. Some months earlier I already had asked around for ppc test hardware on the lubuntu qa list to no avail: https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-qa/msg04763.html Grüße Boris Clemens Dürrschmidt schrieb am Di., 3. Feb. 2015 01:27: > Hi, > I have a single core PowerMac G5 that I'm willing to give away. > It doesn't have the most amazing specs (1x1.8GHz, GeForce FX 5200, only > 512MB RAM but a fast 74GB WD Raptor w/ 1 RPM, a bluetooth module and > a SuperDrive) but it works fine. > > Unfortunately it comes in a very large box (60cm x 60cm x 45cm) and it > weighs about 26kg. > > I'm located in Germany, so I figure shipping inside the EU will be > around 100€ to 150€. > > Is this machine of interest to you? > > Best regards, Clemens Dürrschmidt > > > > > On 02/02/2015 08:44 PM, Konstantinos Margaritis wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I'd like to help on the ppc64 port, I have ppc32 hardware, > > ppc64/ppc64el remote VM accounts but no actual ppc64 hardware. I > > just lost an extremely low bid for an imac g5 on ebay and am short > > on cash for another, but if anyone has a spare G5 (any model, but pref > > imac so that it can be easy to ship) in working order and is willing to > > part with it, I could handle the shipping costs (please, only within > > the EU, I've had the unhappy experience of paying insane shipping costs > > for buying a big box from the US :) > > > > Thanks > > > > PS. I've resumed my work powerpc, which I didn't deal with in years, > > and until this [1] becomes real (I have a pretty good hunch/inside info > > that it will), I'd like to help to get the port up to speed. > > > > [1] http://www.powerpc-notebook.org/en/ > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54d011be.4050...@gmail.com > >
Re: wanted: old G5 hardware for use on the ppc64 port
Hello Clemens, I must clarify I'm not a developer, I am however part of the Lubuntu QA Team and as you have noticed modern distros face various issues on ppc macs. You often need to do extensive research on workarounds to get things to a more useable state which usually makes things too much of a hassle for the endusers, especially without knowledge on Linux or more general of things all around IT, which is also why many Macs get thrown out when they would not have to be and can still function very well on a modern OS. This is exactly why and where testing is needed and the hardware pool for that sadly is quite small and that's where your Mac would come in, more specifically Lubuntu testing, bug hunting, initiating contact with actual devs on issues (ppl dont get payed any more to support our loved but old Macs so we basically get fixes more often on the side, other more modern ppc systems keep ppc developement alive) and possible solutions, workaround documentation as Lubuntu still supports ppc as a community effort and a lot of work is still to be done to make it more useable out of the box for the enduser so that many more Macs will get to see many more years of happy usage in the future. :) So if that still would fit your goal, just shoot me a message on here after which I would contact you privately regarding shipping. Best regards, viele Grüße boris Clemens Dürrschmidt schrieb am Di., 3. Feb. 2015 11:28: > Hi Boris, > I am very happy to give the G5 away so it can be of use for someone, > rather than have it end up in some kind of private Apple museum (or even > worse, spend more years in my attic). > > After Apple discontinued Mac OS X for PPC I used this system with Debian > for a couple of years, so I consider myself kind of indepted to the > developers. > > As Konstantinos doesn't want my G5 you can have it. > I did a test run with Debian and found out that currently there seems to > be a problem with Mesa and nouveau. Xorg with nouveau produces no video > output at all (blank picture) and starting X with nouveau blacklisted > results in strange/inverted colors and very bad 2d performance. > > To make sure it's not a hardware problem I tested the system with both > an older Fedora install CD and the Mac OS install disc. In both cases > the graphics work fine. > > So if you're still interested in the G5 let's work out shipping details. > > Best regards, Clemens > > On 02/03/2015 08:19 AM, Boris Reinhard wrote: > > Hello Clemens, > > > > aside from the RAM your system is still a nice one for these type of > > machines, be aware you could still get quite a lot on ebay for it, the > > other day I saw a G4 iMac with 1.6 GhZ go away for just under 60 Euro tho > > (usually those go for around 100-120), yours is a much nicer one, BUT if > > you're still able and interested to give it away for testing I would be > > interested and I'm located in Germany as well. > > > > Sadly my test system, a G4 ibook, died about a month ago, so that was is > > for me. Some months earlier I already had asked around for ppc test > > hardware on the lubuntu qa list to no avail: > > > > https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-qa/msg04763.html > > > > Grüße > > Boris > > > > Clemens Dürrschmidt schrieb am Di., 3. > > Feb. 2015 01:27: > > > >> Hi, > >> I have a single core PowerMac G5 that I'm willing to give away. > >> It doesn't have the most amazing specs (1x1.8GHz, GeForce FX 5200, only > >> 512MB RAM but a fast 74GB WD Raptor w/ 1 RPM, a bluetooth module and > >> a SuperDrive) but it works fine. > >> > >> Unfortunately it comes in a very large box (60cm x 60cm x 45cm) and it > >> weighs about 26kg. > >> > >> I'm located in Germany, so I figure shipping inside the EU will be > >> around 100€ to 150€. > >> > >> Is this machine of interest to you? > >> > >> Best regards, Clemens Dürrschmidt > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On 02/02/2015 08:44 PM, Konstantinos Margaritis wrote: > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> I'd like to help on the ppc64 port, I have ppc32 hardware, > >>> ppc64/ppc64el remote VM accounts but no actual ppc64 hardware. I > >>> just lost an extremely low bid for an imac g5 on ebay and am short > >>> on cash for another, but if anyone has a spare G5 (any model, but pref > >>> imac so that it can be easy to ship) in working order and is willing to > >>> part with it, I could handle the shipping costs (please, only within > >>> the EU, I've had the unhappy experience o
Re: wanted: old G5 (Nvidia FX5200 AGP nouveau)
Heya guys, I also would like to thank Clemens Duerrschmidt again for his kind donation of his G5 PowerMac9,1 (single core G5, 1.8 GhZ, 600 MhZ fsb, AGP variant). :) It's already well put to testing, the situation with the Nvidia FX 5200 AGP card is quite messy however, there are multiple bug reports going back many years but aside from basically giving up on any hardware accel features since KMS not much has come up it seems. While in general it might be able to work, workarounds for Nouveau on ppc and the FX 5200 AGP and similar nvidia cards are not too well documented it seems and ppl understandably moved on, also some later/ beefier G5 systems with pcie cards make it easier to switch to more easily maintainable GPU solutions (eg. AMD/ ATI) but of course that is not the goal here, I will look further into it but if you got any leads feel free to share, thx! best regards, grüße boris Konstantinos Margaritis schrieb am Mo., 9. Feb. 2015 16:08: On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 21:44:44 +0200 Konstantinos Margaritis wrote: > Hi all, > > I'd like to help on the ppc64 port, I have ppc32 hardware, > ppc64/ppc64el remote VM accounts but no actual ppc64 hardware. I > just lost an extremely low bid for an imac g5 on ebay and am short > on cash for another, but if anyone has a spare G5 (any model, but pref > imac so that it can be easy to ship) in working order and is willing > to part with it, I could handle the shipping costs (please, only > within the EU, I've had the unhappy experience of paying insane > shipping costs for buying a big box from the US :) Replying to self, thanks to everyone for your kind offers, I have decided to accept Risto Suominen's iMac G5 offer. Once I receive the hardware, I'll attempt a ppc64 installation. Kind Regards
Re: No soundcards found for PowerBook6,4 since kernel 3.5
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hw-detect/+bug/1296373 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2209340&page=6&p=13172852#post13172852 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2209340&page=7&p=13173354#post13173354 2015-02-18 9:18 GMT+01:00 : > Dear Debianites, > > My soundcard (Snapper) used to be detected up to kernel 3.4, but stopped > being detected with later versions. The problem persists after a fresh > install of Jessie [3.16.0-4-powerpc #1 Debian 3.16.7-ckt2-1 (2014-12-08) > ppc GNU/Linux]. (This upgrade was necessary to fix a video bug in Wheezy) > > My equipment is a PowerBook G4 12" (PowerBook6,4) from April 2004 > (NewWorld Generation) with CPU 7447A 1.33 GHz and RAM 1.25 GB DDR 333 MHz. > Except for the audio it runs amazingly well with Xfce 4.10. > > From this message > https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2013/09/msg00031.html I gather > that some AOA modules need to be edited to add this particular laptop's > soundcard (sound device-id 40). I believe Mr Johannes Berg ( > http://johannes.sipsolutions.net/Projects/snd-aoa) has done work on these > modules. > > Could anyone with the required skills explain a basic user how fix this > issue? > > Sincerely, > > The Man with a PowerBook6,4 > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with > a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: > https://lists.debian.org/trinity-5d9bd918-a21b-4809-9d59-a452d1edae3d-1424247501898@3capp-mailcom-bs10
Re: HELP: test kernel patches on the real thing
Check this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2209340&page=7 You will need the sound hardware id's, they were listed in one of the related bug reports but I do not have the correct link at hand right now. Wolfram Sang schrieb am Do., 16. Apr. 2015 20:21: > > > I have a iMac G3 M4984. Is my model old enough? I can do some testing in > > one of the coming days. > > As said before, I don't know much about the namings. For the thermal > driver, Herminio found out: "Ah you need powermac towers and iMacs. > They use windtunnel." > > The other driver is the Keywest audio driver. But I don't know which > devices are "Keywest" even after googling around. Do you happen to know? > > Thanks for the offer anyhow! > >
Re: Debian 8 on Late 2005 G5, Graphics Issues
Hello Peter, amazing thx for pointing this out, we need to preserve and document this information as detailed as possible. Based on the details you mentioned someone could add information to the ppc faq and known issues/ workaround intructions, but it might be best if you did it yourself, seeing as you came up with the workaround and know the details behind it and likely could describe things more thoroughly. Also a bug report on it could help, always good to know whats causing issues and where exactly so it may be fixed at a later time. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCKnownIssues (should absolutely be in here) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ (could be added in here as well but this page is a lot less recent and not as helpful) Grüße boris Am 29.06.2015 08:06 schrieb "Peter Saisanas" : > Hi, > > > > I also have a Powermac G5 Quad and tried with both the Geforce 6600 and > Quadro FX4500 video cards and I have successfully gotten it up and running > using the nouveau driver along with 2D acceleration on the XOrg desktop. I > have compiled many newer kernels and created debian packages for them. > Newer 4.0+ kernels also have issues in terms of detecting the nvidia DCB > from the FCODE ROM… But there are other workarounds for this to get it up > and running. You shouldn't need to use the boot parameter > "nouveau.noaccel=1" once you have properly configured your kernel. > > > > In my case, the reason why X does not seem to work with your configuration > is twofold: > > > > The recent Debian (and Fedora) kernels for PowerPC 64 Bit running on the > G5 64bit powermac are configured with a 64Kb kernel pagesize. This works > slightly better in terms of performance, however the nouveau driver does > not support this size. You must recompile the kernel unfortunately and > configure with 4Kb kernel pagesize as this is what nouveau will work with > for now. > > > > To confirm, run the following command in a shell as root: > > “getconf PAGESIZE” > > If it returns 65536, you are using a 64Kb pagesize kernel. > > Otherwise if it returns 4096, i.e. 4Kb kernel pagesize, check the next > item below. > > > > The newer nouveau drivers in more recent kernels default to using MSI > interrupts, however with the PPC G5, when using MSI interrupts, the > powerpc FCODE rom on Nvidia cards does not correctly set up the MSI address > (or vector). > > > > To confirm, run the following command in a shell as root: > > “cat /proc/interrupts” > > > > Look for the nouveau interrupt, if it is using MSI interrupts, you need to > disable MSI interrupts either by passing the option to the nouveau module, > disable MSI interrupts by passing an option to the kernel command line in > yaboot.conf or disable MSI interrupt support in total when compiling a new > kernel. If configured correctly, nouveau should be using level or edge > interrupts. > > > > > > This is what worked for me anyway. > > > > Cheers, > > Peter > > >
Re: Debian 8 on Late 2005 G5, Graphics Issues
Sounds like a plan! Well I have good experience with google drive's file hosting, seems to work well, easy to use, reliable, for smaller projects their free hosting should suffice so for a fairly small crowd like ours it's plenty I guess. I think we could count on files staying available there. Am 29.06.2015 12:36 schrieb "Peter Saisanas" : > I agree Boris. > In my opinion, i think it is best to have something running out of the box > for users to have working with little effort to keep interest alive in the > platform. > > On my dev drive currently i am building a deb package of the latest 3.18 > kernel. I have based the kernel config off the latest Debian kernel config > in Jessie. I have changed as minimum as possible to make it suitable > specifically for most Powermac G5 users as a starting point straight after > a fresh install. > > I have other leaner and meaner kernel configs that i have tweaked over a > few months. I hope the LCS hangs together on the quad till i get around > rebuilding it! > > With the deb kernel package i am currently building, i will install on a > spare drive with a fresh Debian Jessie install. > Hopefully it will work with as minimum fuss to get users with XOrg > desktops running. > > Can you suggest a place where i can upload a kernel deb package for other > users to freely download and test? Id like to make sure that it works for > most people and not just my machine before i spend the time documenting > things. > > Cheers, > Peter > > On 29/06/15 19:35, Boris Reinhard wrote: > > Hello Peter, > > amazing thx for pointing this out, we need to preserve and document this > information as detailed as possible. > > Based on the details you mentioned someone could add information to the > ppc faq and known issues/ workaround intructions, but it might be best if > you did it yourself, seeing as you came up with the workaround and know the > details behind it and likely could describe things more thoroughly. Also a > bug report on it could help, always good to know whats causing issues and > where exactly so it may be fixed at a later time. > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCKnownIssues (should absolutely be in here) > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ (could be added in here as well but > this page is a lot less recent and not as helpful) > > Grüße > boris > > > Am 29.06.2015 08:06 schrieb "Peter Saisanas" : > >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I also have a Powermac G5 Quad and tried with both the Geforce 6600 and >> Quadro FX4500 video cards and I have successfully gotten it up and running >> using the nouveau driver along with 2D acceleration on the XOrg desktop. I >> have compiled many newer kernels and created debian packages for them. >> Newer 4.0+ kernels also have issues in terms of detecting the nvidia DCB >> from the FCODE ROM… But there are other workarounds for this to get it up >> and running. You shouldn't need to use the boot parameter >> "nouveau.noaccel=1" once you have properly configured your kernel. >> >> >> >> In my case, the reason why X does not seem to work with your >> configuration is twofold: >> >> >> >> The recent Debian (and Fedora) kernels for PowerPC 64 Bit running on the >> G5 64bit powermac are configured with a 64Kb kernel pagesize. This works >> slightly better in terms of performance, however the nouveau driver does >> not support this size. You must recompile the kernel unfortunately and >> configure with 4Kb kernel pagesize as this is what nouveau will work with >> for now. >> >> >> >> To confirm, run the following command in a shell as root: >> >> “getconf PAGESIZE” >> >> If it returns 65536, you are using a 64Kb pagesize kernel. >> >> Otherwise if it returns 4096, i.e. 4Kb kernel pagesize, check the next >> item below. >> >> >> >> The newer nouveau drivers in more recent kernels default to using MSI >> interrupts, however with the PPC G5, when using MSI interrupts, the >> powerpc FCODE rom on Nvidia cards does not correctly set up the MSI address >> (or vector). >> >> >> >> To confirm, run the following command in a shell as root: >> >> “cat /proc/interrupts” >> >> >> >> Look for the nouveau interrupt, if it is using MSI interrupts, you need >> to disable MSI interrupts either by passing the option to the nouveau >> module, disable MSI interrupts by passing an option to the kernel command >> line in yaboot.conf or disable MSI interrupt support in total when >> compiling a new kernel. If configured correctly, nouveau should be using >> level or edge interrupts. >> >> >> >> >> >> This is what worked for me anyway. >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Peter >> >> >> > >
Re: Debian 8 on Late 2005 G5, Graphics Issues
Other hosting options that might be useable are dropbox (which until recenlty still had a ppc OSX client (not that it's really needed), or mega.nz, the latter tho insists on writing files from JavaScript directly to disk which causes issues in every browser other than chrome (certainly problematic on older ppc macs where really mostly firefox is an option https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=832732 even tho this says it's fixed), so mega likely would be ill advised for our usage scenario. 2015-06-29 12:59 GMT+02:00 Boris Reinhard : > Sounds like a plan! > > Well I have good experience with google drive's file hosting, seems to > work well, easy to use, reliable, for smaller projects their free hosting > should suffice so for a fairly small crowd like ours it's plenty I guess. > > I think we could count on files staying available there. > Am 29.06.2015 12:36 schrieb "Peter Saisanas" : > >> I agree Boris. >> In my opinion, i think it is best to have something running out of the >> box for users to have working with little effort to keep interest alive in >> the platform. >> >> On my dev drive currently i am building a deb package of the latest 3.18 >> kernel. I have based the kernel config off the latest Debian kernel config >> in Jessie. I have changed as minimum as possible to make it suitable >> specifically for most Powermac G5 users as a starting point straight after >> a fresh install. >> >> I have other leaner and meaner kernel configs that i have tweaked over a >> few months. I hope the LCS hangs together on the quad till i get around >> rebuilding it! >> >> With the deb kernel package i am currently building, i will install on a >> spare drive with a fresh Debian Jessie install. >> Hopefully it will work with as minimum fuss to get users with XOrg >> desktops running. >> >> Can you suggest a place where i can upload a kernel deb package for other >> users to freely download and test? Id like to make sure that it works for >> most people and not just my machine before i spend the time documenting >> things. >> >> Cheers, >> Peter >> >> On 29/06/15 19:35, Boris Reinhard wrote: >> >> Hello Peter, >> >> amazing thx for pointing this out, we need to preserve and document this >> information as detailed as possible. >> >> Based on the details you mentioned someone could add information to the >> ppc faq and known issues/ workaround intructions, but it might be best if >> you did it yourself, seeing as you came up with the workaround and know the >> details behind it and likely could describe things more thoroughly. Also a >> bug report on it could help, always good to know whats causing issues and >> where exactly so it may be fixed at a later time. >> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCKnownIssues (should absolutely be in >> here) >> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ (could be added in here as well but >> this page is a lot less recent and not as helpful) >> >> Grüße >> boris >> >> >> Am 29.06.2015 08:06 schrieb "Peter Saisanas" : >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> >>> I also have a Powermac G5 Quad and tried with both the Geforce 6600 and >>> Quadro FX4500 video cards and I have successfully gotten it up and running >>> using the nouveau driver along with 2D acceleration on the XOrg desktop. I >>> have compiled many newer kernels and created debian packages for them. >>> Newer 4.0+ kernels also have issues in terms of detecting the nvidia DCB >>> from the FCODE ROM… But there are other workarounds for this to get it up >>> and running. You shouldn't need to use the boot parameter >>> "nouveau.noaccel=1" once you have properly configured your kernel. >>> >>> >>> >>> In my case, the reason why X does not seem to work with your >>> configuration is twofold: >>> >>> >>> >>> The recent Debian (and Fedora) kernels for PowerPC 64 Bit running on the >>> G5 64bit powermac are configured with a 64Kb kernel pagesize. This works >>> slightly better in terms of performance, however the nouveau driver does >>> not support this size. You must recompile the kernel unfortunately and >>> configure with 4Kb kernel pagesize as this is what nouveau will work with >>> for now. >>> >>> >>> >>> To confirm, run the following command in a shell as root: >>> >>> “getconf PAGESIZE” >>> >>> If it returns 65536, you are using
Re: Debian 8 on Late 2005 G5, Graphics Issues
Hey, thx Peter! I have no G5 system to currently test this on myself (briefly had a single core G5 PowerMac sadly it's mainboard got damaged when the PSU blew). Am 29.06.2015 15:00 schrieb "Peter Saisanas" : > Hi Boris, > > As promised, I have attached a Google Drive link for a 64 BitG5 Powermac > 3.18.16 kernel and headers deb packages for Debian Jessie. > This kernel is based off the default Debian Jessie kernel config, but > basically optimised for G5 processors, with 4kb kernel pagesize and msi > interrupts disabled. This is basically what nouveau requires to enable XOrg > 2d acceleration. > I have installed this on a fresh Debian Jessie install and seems to work > ok, i have quickly set this up but i can improve it further. > The kernel image and header deb files should be saved somewhere and as > root install the deb files. it will complain about a module link when > installing but disregard it, it will install the vmlinux & initrd images in > boot. Create a new entry in yaboot.conf and test it out. > Im curious if is solves the nouveau issues for Powermac G5 11.2 owners. > > Please give feedback and i will try to update documentation. > > As always, i accept no responsibility for data loss. > Try it out only if you know what you are doing. > > Link Below: > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8pqd5Ots1vffmY5ZnpGUDg4UGNnVFk2M05tQUtEUUkwUmhmQWdLMWpfZGVraDIxSFltb1k&authuser=0 > > Cheers, > Peter > > On 29/06/15 21:21, Boris Reinhard wrote: > > Other hosting options that might be useable are dropbox (which until > recenlty still had a ppc OSX client (not that it's really needed), or > mega.nz, the latter tho insists on writing files from JavaScript directly > to disk which causes issues in every browser other than chrome (certainly > problematic on older ppc macs where really mostly firefox is an option > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=832732 even tho this says > it's fixed), so mega likely would be ill advised for our usage scenario. > > 2015-06-29 12:59 GMT+02:00 Boris Reinhard : > >> Sounds like a plan! >> >> Well I have good experience with google drive's file hosting, seems to >> work well, easy to use, reliable, for smaller projects their free hosting >> should suffice so for a fairly small crowd like ours it's plenty I guess. >> >> I think we could count on files staying available there. >> Am 29.06.2015 12:36 schrieb "Peter Saisanas" : >> >>> I agree Boris. >>> In my opinion, i think it is best to have something running out of the >>> box for users to have working with little effort to keep interest alive in >>> the platform. >>> >>> On my dev drive currently i am building a deb package of the latest 3.18 >>> kernel. I have based the kernel config off the latest Debian kernel config >>> in Jessie. I have changed as minimum as possible to make it suitable >>> specifically for most Powermac G5 users as a starting point straight after >>> a fresh install. >>> >>> I have other leaner and meaner kernel configs that i have tweaked over a >>> few months. I hope the LCS hangs together on the quad till i get around >>> rebuilding it! >>> >>> With the deb kernel package i am currently building, i will install on a >>> spare drive with a fresh Debian Jessie install. >>> Hopefully it will work with as minimum fuss to get users with XOrg >>> desktops running. >>> >>> Can you suggest a place where i can upload a kernel deb package for >>> other users to freely download and test? Id like to make sure that it works >>> for most people and not just my machine before i spend the time documenting >>> things. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Peter >>> >>> On 29/06/15 19:35, Boris Reinhard wrote: >>> >>> Hello Peter, >>> >>> amazing thx for pointing this out, we need to preserve and document this >>> information as detailed as possible. >>> >>> Based on the details you mentioned someone could add information to the >>> ppc faq and known issues/ workaround intructions, but it might be best if >>> you did it yourself, seeing as you came up with the workaround and know the >>> details behind it and likely could describe things more thoroughly. Also a >>> bug report on it could help, always good to know whats causing issues and >>> where exactly so it may be fixed at a later time. >>> >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCKnownIssues (should absolutely be in >>> here) >>> >>>
Re: Debian 8 on Late 2005 G5, Graphics Issues
Peter I would suggest opening a topic over here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=328 there you would get attention of enthusiasts and hardware owners a like. There are also some Amiga folks around that might be interested to test on their compatible hardware. If you do make sure the topic is exact and catchy, something like nouveau 3d accel G5 fix or some such. Also a new message on the devel mailing list more of interest to kernel devs and more technical/ possibly linking to an existing or newly created bug report might also gather more attention on the dev side of things. Am 29.06.2015 16:12 schrieb "Boris Reinhard" : > Hey, thx Peter! > > I have no G5 system to currently test this on myself (briefly had a single > core G5 PowerMac sadly it's mainboard got damaged when the PSU blew). > Am 29.06.2015 15:00 schrieb "Peter Saisanas" : > >> Hi Boris, >> >> As promised, I have attached a Google Drive link for a 64 BitG5 Powermac >> 3.18.16 kernel and headers deb packages for Debian Jessie. >> This kernel is based off the default Debian Jessie kernel config, but >> basically optimised for G5 processors, with 4kb kernel pagesize and msi >> interrupts disabled. This is basically what nouveau requires to enable XOrg >> 2d acceleration. >> I have installed this on a fresh Debian Jessie install and seems to work >> ok, i have quickly set this up but i can improve it further. >> The kernel image and header deb files should be saved somewhere and as >> root install the deb files. it will complain about a module link when >> installing but disregard it, it will install the vmlinux & initrd images in >> boot. Create a new entry in yaboot.conf and test it out. >> Im curious if is solves the nouveau issues for Powermac G5 11.2 owners. >> >> Please give feedback and i will try to update documentation. >> >> As always, i accept no responsibility for data loss. >> Try it out only if you know what you are doing. >> >> Link Below: >> >> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8pqd5Ots1vffmY5ZnpGUDg4UGNnVFk2M05tQUtEUUkwUmhmQWdLMWpfZGVraDIxSFltb1k&authuser=0 >> >> Cheers, >> Peter >> >> On 29/06/15 21:21, Boris Reinhard wrote: >> >> Other hosting options that might be useable are dropbox (which until >> recenlty still had a ppc OSX client (not that it's really needed), or >> mega.nz, the latter tho insists on writing files from JavaScript >> directly to disk which causes issues in every browser other than chrome >> (certainly problematic on older ppc macs where really mostly firefox is an >> option https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=832732 even tho this >> says it's fixed), so mega likely would be ill advised for our usage >> scenario. >> >> 2015-06-29 12:59 GMT+02:00 Boris Reinhard >> : >> >>> Sounds like a plan! >>> >>> Well I have good experience with google drive's file hosting, seems to >>> work well, easy to use, reliable, for smaller projects their free hosting >>> should suffice so for a fairly small crowd like ours it's plenty I guess. >>> >>> I think we could count on files staying available there. >>> Am 29.06.2015 12:36 schrieb "Peter Saisanas" : >>> >>>> I agree Boris. >>>> In my opinion, i think it is best to have something running out of the >>>> box for users to have working with little effort to keep interest alive in >>>> the platform. >>>> >>>> On my dev drive currently i am building a deb package of the latest >>>> 3.18 kernel. I have based the kernel config off the latest Debian kernel >>>> config in Jessie. I have changed as minimum as possible to make it suitable >>>> specifically for most Powermac G5 users as a starting point straight after >>>> a fresh install. >>>> >>>> I have other leaner and meaner kernel configs that i have tweaked over >>>> a few months. I hope the LCS hangs together on the quad till i get around >>>> rebuilding it! >>>> >>>> With the deb kernel package i am currently building, i will install on >>>> a spare drive with a fresh Debian Jessie install. >>>> Hopefully it will work with as minimum fuss to get users with XOrg >>>> desktops running. >>>> >>>> Can you suggest a place where i can upload a kernel deb package for >>>> other users to freely download and test? Id like to make sure that it works >>>> for most people and not just my machine before i spend the time d
