German keymap for G3/PPC
Hello, has anybody information about a german keymap-file for a G3 machine (potato)? Thanks for any help. Alex
Re: unable to boot Motorola Powerstack II
Sven Luther wrote: On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 09:03:22PM +0100, Matthias Koch-Schirrmeister wrote: Hi everybody, I'm trying to boot Debian sarge 3.1 rc4 on an elderly Motorola Powerstack II 604e (PReP/Utah). According to the Debian pages, this system should be supported. I downloaded the current floppy images and the CD #1, but I can't boot from any of these. Booting from floppy results in "unable to load disk label", booting from CD outputs "could not load bootable image" or something to that effect. Any ideas on that? Is it possibly a debian bug? Motorola Powerstack II works fine with sarge. The CD install method is not supported though, but the netboot install is needed. You need to download the /powerpc/netboot/vmlinuz-prep.initrd, put it on your tftp server and netboot it with : boot enet:,vmlinuz-prep.initrd, I can confirm the suggestion by Sven. The machine boots perfectly but just not from anything else. Then again, I still haven't managed to get anything newer than 2.6.8 on it. Cheers, Alex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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i have gone through the base install booting from the floppies as i cant seem to boot from the CDs and once it is installed i cant get linux to boot from the HD i have tried yaboot, quik, and trying to boot through the open firmware but none of these methods work and i think there might be an incompatibility with debian and the PB 3400 trying to boot from the HD i have tried with both keeping 2.0 kernel compatibility and without keeping it when booting from the open firmware using "make bootable directly from hard disk" i get quik boot promt: boot: but to even get quik to load i need to do a setenv boot-device ata0/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0:4 as 4 is my root partition, 2 is my bootstrap partition for when i tried yaboot and 3 is my swap and i need to have it boot to the open firmware i cant let it auto boot or the machine never starts up... if i type /vmlinux i get: Read error on block 1651470196 Read error on block 1651470196 Image not found try again boot: if i type /boot/vmlinux-2.2.17 i get: (the spinning line) (screen blacks as if going into linux) (goes white back to OF) ... ok copying OF device tree...done Initing fake screen DEFAULT CATCH!, code=FFF00300 at %SRR0: 00201008 %SRR1: 3070 ok 0 > if there is any other specific information that you need i can try to get it
Re: ben10 kernel and ibook 2.2
El Viernes, 11 de Abril de 2003 19:11, Pisupati, Ajay escribió: > In either case, my question is, > can I upgrade to ben10 and expect my ibook to still function properly? Yes, I'm using it perfectly, with debian woody. But... you will need to check if the device /dev/apm_bios exists. This device, AFAIK, was created in my ibook when I installed the "laptop" section running tasksel. So run tasksell, and install those packages (or install those packages with apt-get), or try to create the device manually. If you understand french, try reading that: http://david.decotigny.online.fr/libre/ibook2-debian/ibook2-debian011.html I don't speak french, but commands are easy to "translate" ;-). Best regards. -- Alex (a.k.a. suy) - GPG ID: AA8D2A01 http://lacurva.net/
Re: Newbie problems
El Sábado, 10 de Mayo de 2003 00:43, Jule Slootbeek escribió: > My first problem > is that the Sound does not work, a /dev/dsp exists but i don't know what > to do next to get my sound working, during the yaboot installation i The usual problem with sound is file permissions. They must be changed using "chmod 666 /dev/dsp" (bad idea), or you must add the user you use more often to group "audio". > left the kernel-mod settings the same. Secondly i cannot open my CDdrive > anymore typing eject /cdrom does not work because nothing's mounted at > /cdrom. Any pointers/hints are apreciated Try "modprobe ide-scsi", and then "eject". For me, it works ;-) -- Alex (a.k.a. suy) - GPG ID: 0xAA8D2A01 http://lacurva.net/ - Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie problems
El Sábado, 10 de Mayo de 2003 04:12, Jule Slootbeek escribió: > I tried both those solutions to a negative effect. I still get: > > ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp): No > such device > > when i try toplay something in winamp Type "id", and check that your user belongs to group audio. If do you want still the dirty solution, try with: chmod 666 /dev/dsp /dev/audio /dev/cdrom /dev/mid* /dev/sequencer /dev/mixer But remember this is the dirty solution, because if you give a shell acount to anyone, he/she can start playing music at any time :-). For me, that worked, cause the sound was properly configured in my ibook with any benh kernel. If this still doesn't works, try pasting the output of "lsmod" and "ls -l /dev/dsp". > and my CD player won't open saying: > eject: unable to find or open device for: `cdrom' > thanks for the info though Try pasting the output of: cat /etc/fstab lsmod ls -l /dev/cdrom /dev/hdb /dev/scd0 Best regards. PS: (disclaimer) I'm a newbie too ;-), so maybe my ideas are not the best ones. -- Alex (a.k.a. suy) - GPG ID: 0xAA8D2A01 http://lacurva.net/ - Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie problems
El Sábado, 10 de Mayo de 2003 17:36, Jule Slootbeek escribió: > I tried chmodding everything and nothing changed, i think my sound is > not configured right in my kernel. I might have to recomile (which will > be a first, but i'll have to do it eventually right?) Anywho here the > outputs Ups! I forgot to say that I use Benjamin H. kernel. You can download it using rsync: su cd /usr/src mkdir benh_kernel ln -s /usr/src/ben_kernel /usr/src/linux rsync -avz --delete rsync.penguinppc.org::linux-2.4-benh /usr/src/benh_kernel make-kpkg clean make-kpkg kernel-image make-kpkg modules-image #if you got something in /usr/src/modules I'm also using the modules for my Radeon, so I have installed some sources from Michel Däenzer's repository. I followed the steps from a website, but it's in spanish :-(. Take a look at the archives of this list, or search a bit in google. If you have still problems, try asking in the list. Best regards. -- Alex (a.k.a. suy) - GPG ID: 0xAA8D2A01 http://lacurva.net/ - Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie problems
El Martes, 13 de Mayo de 2003 02:18, Jule Slootbeek escribió: > Well i tried compiling Ben H's kernel, and what happened was that my > keyboard got remapped in a way that i could not deal with, so i reinstalled > the whole thing, this time adding dmasound drivers to the kernel, then i > did a chmod 666 /dev/dsp and all that. and now the sound works fine. > thanks for all your help guys! > expect me back here with more problems later!...:) (sorry for stop replying, I'v been a bit busy lately) The problem with the keyboard, is in some faq, somewhere O:-), i never used it, because I never had problems with my keyboard, but it seems is a common problem with keycodes. If it can help, yo can use my .config: http://lacurva.net/misc/dot.config.suy It works for me, and its a modified version that I found in a very helpfull article (modifications are because the video card is different, and I'm using diferent drivers: the ones I mentioned from Däenzer's respository): http://bulmalug.net/body.phtml?nIdNoticia=1481 It's in spanish, but configuration files and scripts are the same ;-). Best regards. -- Alex (a.k.a. suy) - GPG ID: 0xAA8D2A01 http://lacurva.net/ - Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE3
El Lunes, 23 de Junio de 2003 19:20, Curtis Vaughan escribió: > Has anyone tried out KDE3 packages on a ppc? More specifically on an iBook? > Any reason not to move to KDE3? I'm using KDE 3 in an iBook 2.2 with Debian Woody. All works great for me. -- Alex (a.k.a. suy) - GPG ID 0xAA8D2A01 http://lacurva.net/ - Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "In matters of principle, stand like a rock; in matters of taste, swim with the current." -- Thomas Jefferson
Re: KDE3
El Martes, 24 de Junio de 2003 05:36, Curtis Vaughan escribió: > BTW, in order to install KDE 3 I need libqt3-mt >= 3.1.2, which is not > available through packages.debian.org. Where can I get it? In the same place where kde is, using download.kde.org, and apt-get: http://kde.org/download/ KDE 3.1.2 Please see the KDE 3.1.2 Info Page for details. Currently, the following binary packages are known: * Debian (README) : o Debian stable (woody) (Intel i386, IBM PowerPC, DEC Alpha) : deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1.2/Debian stable main Best regards. -- Alex (a.k.a. suy) - GPG ID 0xAA8D2A01 http://lacurva.net/ - Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I may kid around about drugs, but really, I take them seriously." - Doctor Graper
Re: KDE3 in woody, powerpc arch
I'm crossposting in debian-kde, because maybe there, someone knows what is happening. El Martes, 24 de Junio de 2003 14:34, Curtis Vaughan escribió: > I have already added the line to my sources.list file, but there is no > libqt3-mt that is >= 3.1.2, which is required according to other kde3 > files. I've looked over the site and also don't see it. I'm very confused. I don't see it here: http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1.2/Debian/pool/main/q/ (I think it must be in pool/main/q/qt-copy/ ) ... but I have it installed: ii libqt3-mt 3.1.2-0woody1 Qt GUI Library ... and when kde 3.1.2 was released, I used the line pointed in kde.org/download to upgrade my kde. I don't understand why now is dissappeared. Looking in the spanish mirror, I don't see it neither. :-( I hope someone else had an answer, cause I don't understand what is happening. Maybe the release of 3.1.3 is causing some movement in repositories. Best regards. -- Alex (a.k.a. suy) - GPG ID 0xAA8D2A01 http://lacurva.net/ - Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Today is the first day of the rest of your lossage.
Re: connecting a Mac to a PC
El Sábado, 5 de Julio de 2003 17:43, Nirmal Govind escribió: > Hi.. does anyone know how I can connect my ibook running Debian PPC to a PC > running Windows XP so that I can transfer files between the two? Is there a > USB cable that can do this? Does the twisted ethernet cable work between a > Mac and a PC? Any help would be greatly appreciated.. Use an ethernet cable, doesn't matter if is twisted or don't: ibook's ethernet card, does that for you. About the software, I don't know what to say, cause I never conected against a Winbugs machine. Maybe Samba? Best regards. -- Alex (a.k.a. suy) - GPG ID 0xAA8D2A01 http://lacurva.net/ - Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BOFH excuse #29: It works the way the Wang did, what's the problem
Re: which serious bugs exactly? (Re: if you care about debian on powerpc, please react ...)
My humble opinion as an occassional user of Debian-powerpc. One of the selling points of Free Software in general, and Debian in particular, is that the people doing the coding are the people in charge. If this fails to happen then the decision process must be refined. I have not followed the discussion in full (I only read debian-powerpc), but in this case it looks like Sven is doing the coding and other people are trying to tell him what to do and not to do. This is really hurting Debian in the mid- and long-term. Please, please find a way to work together. Debian is the finest distro around for administration, and hardware support should also be first class. Un saludo, Alex Fernández.
Re: 20 EUR reward (PayPal) to the person who can get my external VGA to work properly
On 6/5/07, Pierre Bauduin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 2007/6/5, Zhengpeng Hou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Section "Device" > Identifier "ATI Technologies Inc M11 NV [FireGL Mobility T2e]" > Driver "radeon" > BusID "PCI:0:16:0" > Option "MergedFB" "true" > # Option "UseFBDev" "true" > Option "ColorTiling" "on" > Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" > Option "AGPMode" "4" > Option "AGPFastWrite" "true" > Option "EnablePageFlip""true" > Option "UseInternalAGPGART""no" > # Option "RenderAccel" "true" > Option "UseFWPLL" "true" > Option "EnableDepthMoves" "true" > Option "backingStore" "true" > Option "DynamicClocks" "on" > #Option "MetaModes" "1280x854 1280x854-1280x1024" > # Option "MergedDPI" "100 100" > #Option "CRT2Position" "LeftOf" > Option "MonitorLayout" "LCD, CRT" > EndSection > > Section "Monitor" > Identifier "COLOR LCD" > Option "DPMS" > Option "LVDS" > EndSection > > Section "Monitor" > Identifier "EXTERNAL" > Option "VGA" > # HorizSync 30-82 > # VertRefresh 56-75 > EndSection > > I'm using kubuntu gutsy, with above configure, I can have my ibook G4 > work with external VGA > Yes, it worked ! You have just earned 20 EUR :) Now my external VGA display finally works properly in both Mac OS X and Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 Here's the detailed information: http://pierre.baudu.in/ibook/#external_vga_output Perhaps a dumb question but... I don't need the external vga ouput all the time. In fact I only need it when I make presentations with a beamer, that is once every three months. Should I keep using the xorg.conf with the external VGA output defined even if I don't need it ? Will it "suck" more energy from the battery if I leave the VGA ouput enabled in xorg.conf ? Leaving the DAC enabled will draw more power. If you want to try the randr-1.2 branch of the radeon driver, it allows you to turn outputs on and off on the fly and even switch between dualhead and single head on the fly. It requires a newer X server and xrandr however. Alex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
radeon driver updates for mac laptops
Those of you with radeon based mac laptops please test the latest code in that ati git tree. I recently added connector table and quirk information for mac laptops. You will need at least xserver 1.3 and a recent version of xrandr (1.2.2 preferred) to test. As far as I can tell there are three apple laptop variants: ibook - LVDS, TVDAC drives TV or VGA via dongle powerbook-duallink - LVDS, TV, External TMDS/Primary DAC powerbook - LVDS, TV, Internal TMDS/Primary DAC To test, add: Option "MacModel" "" to the device section of your xorg config where is one of the following: ibook powerbook-duallink powerbook powerbook-duallink indicates that it is one of the laptops that has dual link DVI rather than single link. We can't yet init the external dual link TMDS directly, but if OF inits it, it should work. I'm also not sure about some of the pll quirks for ibooks. those may not be needed in all cases. Please test and let me know how it goes, as I don't have any macs and we may need additional quirks or finer grained model info. Also, make sure I'm cc'ed as I'm not on this list. Thanks! Alex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: radeon driver updates for mac laptops
Also, FWIW, if you have a mac DESKTOP with a radeon card that needs special quirks let me know. Tell me what model it is, which radeon chip it has (pci ids) and what connectors it has. Alex On 8/29/07, Alex Deucher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Those of you with radeon based mac laptops please test the latest code > in that ati git tree. I recently added connector table and quirk > information for mac laptops. You will need at least xserver 1.3 and a > recent version of xrandr (1.2.2 preferred) to test. > > As far as I can tell there are three apple laptop variants: > > ibook - LVDS, TVDAC drives TV or VGA via dongle > powerbook-duallink - LVDS, TV, External TMDS/Primary DAC > powerbook - LVDS, TV, Internal TMDS/Primary DAC > > To test, add: > > Option "MacModel" "" > > to the device section of your xorg config where is one of the > following: > ibook > powerbook-duallink > powerbook > > powerbook-duallink indicates that it is one of the laptops that has > dual link DVI rather than single link. We can't yet init the external > dual link TMDS directly, but if OF inits it, it should work. I'm also > not sure about some of the pll quirks for ibooks. those may not be > needed in all cases. > > Please test and let me know how it goes, as I don't have any macs and > we may need additional quirks or finer grained model info. Also, make > sure I'm cc'ed as I'm not on this list. > > Thanks! > > Alex > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: radeon driver updates for mac laptops
On 8/30/07, Yves-Alexis Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On mer, 2007-08-29 at 23:36 -0400, Alex Deucher wrote: > > Those of you with radeon based mac laptops please test the latest code > > in that ati git tree. I recently added connector table and quirk > > information for mac laptops. You will need at least xserver 1.3 and a > > recent version of xrandr (1.2.2 preferred) to test. > > > > As far as I can tell there are three apple laptop variants: > > > > ibook - LVDS, TVDAC drives TV or VGA via > > dongle > > powerbook-duallink - LVDS, TV, External TMDS/Primary DAC > > powerbook - LVDS, TV, Internal TMDS/Primary DAC > > > > To test, add: > > > > Option "MacModel" "" > > > > to the device section of your xorg config where is one of the > > following: > > ibook > > powerbook-duallink > > powerbook > > I've successfully built the driver and tried it. xrandr recognises it, > and it detects correctly my output monitor, I can switch it on/off with > xrandr --auto, and it works as "cloned". I don't seem to be able to move > it to right (or left) using --right-of: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: xrandr --output DVI-0 --mode 1024x768 --right-of LVDS > xrandr: screen cannot be larger than 1280x1280 (desired size 2304x854) > > Any advice? > you need to add a virtual line to the screen section of your config: Virtual 2304 854 Also, if you are using a r100 or r200 variant, you'll need to disable colortiling if the size of your desktop exceeds 2048 in either dimension. Option "colortiling" "false" Eventually, when the memory management stuff lands, this sort of thing will go away, but for now we have to pre-allocate the max size you may want for your desktop. Alex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: radeon driver updates for mac laptops
On 8/30/07, Gaudenz Steinlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 11:36:10PM -0400, Alex Deucher wrote: > > Those of you with radeon based mac laptops please test the latest code > > in that ati git tree. I recently added connector table and quirk > > information for mac laptops. You will need at least xserver 1.3 and a > > recent version of xrandr (1.2.2 preferred) to test. > > > > As far as I can tell there are three apple laptop variants: > > > > ibook - LVDS, TVDAC drives TV or VGA via dongle > > powerbook-duallink - LVDS, TV, External TMDS/Primary DAC > > powerbook - LVDS, TV, Internal TMDS/Primary DAC > > > > To test, add: > > > > Option "MacModel" "" > > > > to the device section of your xorg config where is one of the > > following: > > ibook > > powerbook-duallink > > powerbook > > > > powerbook-duallink indicates that it is one of the laptops that has > > dual link DVI rather than single link. We can't yet init the external > > dual link TMDS directly, but if OF inits it, it should work. I'm also > > not sure about some of the pll quirks for ibooks. those may not be > > needed in all cases. > > > > Please test and let me know how it goes, as I don't have any macs and > > we may need additional quirks or finer grained model info. Also, make > > sure I'm cc'ed as I'm not on this list. > > I compiled the latest git version against the packages in Debian > unstable, added powerbook-duallink (I hope this is correct for my > PowerBook5,8). Attached the VGA Input of an old beamer via the DVI to > VGA converter. I attached my xorg.conf and X Server log. The result is > mixed: > - The internal LCD works as before. > - The output is cloned to the external output (this is what I want), but > the resolution is not adaptad to the capabilities of the beamer. Older > versions of the ati driver did automatically lower the resolution. > > I don't know if this is an issue with my xorg.conf or a bug in the > driver. > I'm not quite sure I understand what you are getting at. which resolution is not adapted to what? the laptop panel? the beamer? As far as I can tell, it seems to be doing the right thing. Right now the driver defaults each output to it's preferred mode (based on edid from the monitor): (II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS using initial mode 1440x960 (II) RADEON(0): Output DVI-0 using initial mode 1024x768 what do you want to happen? if you'd rather have then both at one resolution, you can use xrandr to change the mode on either or both heads. Alex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: radeon driver updates for mac laptops
On 9/21/07, Eugen Dedu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michel Dänzer wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 16:25 +0200, Eugen Dedu wrote: > >> Michel Dänzer wrote: > >>> On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 15:58 +0200, Eugen Dedu wrote: > >>>>>> VGA-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) > >>>>> If you specify > >>>>> > >>>>> Option "MacModel" "powerbook" > >>>>> > >>>>> or "powerbook-duallink", the above should say DVI-0 instead of VGA-0. > >>>> However, it prints VGA-0... > >>> Does the log file acknowledge the option being in effect as intended? > >> Ah...: > >> > >> ((II) RADEON(0): RandR 1.2 enabled, ignore the following RandR disabled > >> message. > >> WW) RADEON(0): Option "MacModel" is not used > >> (--) RandR disabled > >> > >> I attach the whole log and xorg.conf. Maybe I should try > >> powerbook-duallink?! > > > > The option value doesn't matter when the driver doesn't recognize the > > identifier. Did you get the driver source from upstream GIT and build > > it? The option isn't included in xserver-xorg-video-ati 1:6.7.192 yet. > > Hi, > > I have just tried xserver-xorg-video-ati 1:6.7.192-4. Now it works on > my external monitor (Samsung). I have a PowerBook5,2 (4 years old). > > I put powerbook-duallink as MacModel. > > A few comments: > > - after "xrandr --output DVI-0 --reflect x" and "xrandr --output DVI-0 > --rotation left", the mouse pointer on my LDVS is rotated. Is it a bug > of a feature :o) ? Can it be rotated only on the rotated output? > Rotation should work on any output, but it will be slow until I fix exa composite support. I'll double check on the cursor rotation. That sounds like a bug. > - both xrandr -q and xrandr --prop black DVI-0 (but not LVDS) for 2-3 sec. > the second crtc is used for load detection on the tvdac. I've disabled this code by default in 6.7.193 and newer. > - When executing "xrandr --output DVI-0 --right-of LVDS" with both > outputs in mode 1024x768 I get: > xrandr: screen cannot be larger than 1280x1200 (desired size 2048x768) > How can I enlarge the 1280x1200 value in order to put one output at the > right of the other? Here is the output of xrandr -q: > Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1280 x 1024, maximum 1280 x 1200 > LVDS connected 1280x854+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) > 0mm x 0mm > 1280x854 60.0*+ > 1280x800 60.0 > 1280x768 60.0 > 1024x768 60.0 > 800x60060.3 > 640x48059.9 > DVI-0 connected 1280x1024+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) > 330mm x 270mm > 1280x1024 60.0*+ 75.0 59.9 > 1152x864 75.0 > 1024x768 75.1 70.1 60.0 > 832x62474.6 > 800x60072.2 75.0 60.3 56.2 > 640x48075.0 60.0 > 720x40070.1 70.1 > S-video disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) > add a virtual line to the screen section of your config specifying the max desktop size you want. E.g.: Virtual 2048 2048 > - how can i see if a monitor is enabled? I noticed that when enabled > its dimensions in mm are printed (such as 330mm x 270mm). Maybe > printing "not enabled" and "enabled 330mm x 270mm" would be clearer? an output is enabled if there is a * next to one of it's modes. > > - for LVDS, "xrandr -q" prints always 0mm x 0mm We currently don't have a method to get this information from the hardware on mac cards. You'll have to force it yourself using xrandr --fbmm Alex
Re: radeon driver updates for mac laptops
On 9/21/07, Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2007-09-21 at 11:54 -0400, Alex Deucher wrote: > > > > > - for LVDS, "xrandr -q" prints always 0mm x 0mm > > > > We currently don't have a method to get this information from the > > hardware on mac cards. > > We have the EDID... hmmm... it should be getting it from the edid then. seems to work fine for DVI/VGA monitors. Not sure what's up with the LVDS. Alex
Re: radeon driver updates for mac laptops
On 9/21/07, Eugen Dedu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alex Deucher wrote: > > On 9/21/07, Eugen Dedu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Michel Dänzer wrote: > >>> On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 16:25 +0200, Eugen Dedu wrote: > >>>> Michel Dänzer wrote: > >>>>> On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 15:58 +0200, Eugen Dedu wrote: > >>>>>>>> VGA-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) > >>>>>>> If you specify > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Option "MacModel" "powerbook" > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> or "powerbook-duallink", the above should say DVI-0 instead of VGA-0. > >>>>>> However, it prints VGA-0... > >>>>> Does the log file acknowledge the option being in effect as intended? > >>>> Ah...: > >>>> > >>>> ((II) RADEON(0): RandR 1.2 enabled, ignore the following RandR disabled > >>>> message. > >>>> WW) RADEON(0): Option "MacModel" is not used > >>>> (--) RandR disabled > >>>> > >>>> I attach the whole log and xorg.conf. Maybe I should try > >>>> powerbook-duallink?! > >>> The option value doesn't matter when the driver doesn't recognize the > >>> identifier. Did you get the driver source from upstream GIT and build > >>> it? The option isn't included in xserver-xorg-video-ati 1:6.7.192 yet. > >> Hi, > >> > >> I have just tried xserver-xorg-video-ati 1:6.7.192-4. Now it works on > >> my external monitor (Samsung). I have a PowerBook5,2 (4 years old). > >> > >> I put powerbook-duallink as MacModel. > >> > >> A few comments: > >> > > > > an output is enabled if there is a * next to one of it's modes. > > May I suggest you to write this info in the man page? > > snoopy:~$ diff -Naur xrandr.1 xrandr.1-new > --- xrandr.12007-09-21 18:16:51.0 +0200 > +++ xrandr.1-new2007-09-21 18:23:52.0 +0200 > @@ -83,7 +83,9 @@ > reported while executing the configuration changes. > .IP \-q > When this option is present, or when no configuration changes are > requested, > -xrandr will display the current state of the system. > +xrandr will display the current state of the system. A '*' near a mode > +precises the mode used. A '+' near a mode precises that the corresponding > +output is enabled. > .IP "\-screen \fIsnum\fP" > This option selects which screen to manipulate. Note this refers to the X > screen abstraction, not the monitor (or output). > I thought brice already submitted a patch to do that. I guess not. Please open a bug on https://bugs.freedesktop.org and attach your patch. > Also, another comment: > - would it possible to use MacModel XYZ by default, i.e. without > explicitely putting it in xorg.conf? Or is it planned for a future > version of ati driver? I don't know of a way to get that info from the driver at the moment. Also, I'm not sure which powerbooks use which configuration (internal or external TMDS). If someone more familiar with macs or ppc knows of a good way, I'd be happy to implement it, I'm just not that well versed in mac hardware and configuration. Alex
Re: radeon driver updates for mac laptops
On 9/21/07, Eugen Dedu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alex Deucher wrote: > > On 9/21/07, Eugen Dedu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Michel Dänzer wrote: > >>> On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 16:25 +0200, Eugen Dedu wrote: > >>>> Michel Dänzer wrote: > >>>>> On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 15:58 +0200, Eugen Dedu wrote: > >>>>>>>> VGA-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) > >>>>>>> If you specify > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Option "MacModel" "powerbook" > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> or "powerbook-duallink", the above should say DVI-0 instead of VGA-0. > >>>>>> However, it prints VGA-0... > >>>>> Does the log file acknowledge the option being in effect as intended? > >>>> Ah...: > >>>> > >>>> ((II) RADEON(0): RandR 1.2 enabled, ignore the following RandR disabled > >>>> message. > >>>> WW) RADEON(0): Option "MacModel" is not used > >>>> (--) RandR disabled > >>>> > >>>> I attach the whole log and xorg.conf. Maybe I should try > >>>> powerbook-duallink?! > >>> The option value doesn't matter when the driver doesn't recognize the > >>> identifier. Did you get the driver source from upstream GIT and build > >>> it? The option isn't included in xserver-xorg-video-ati 1:6.7.192 yet. > >> Hi, > >> > >> I have just tried xserver-xorg-video-ati 1:6.7.192-4. Now it works on > >> my external monitor (Samsung). I have a PowerBook5,2 (4 years old). > >> > >> I put powerbook-duallink as MacModel. > >> > >> A few comments: > >> > > > > an output is enabled if there is a * next to one of it's modes. > > May I suggest you to write this info in the man page? > > snoopy:~$ diff -Naur xrandr.1 xrandr.1-new > --- xrandr.12007-09-21 18:16:51.0 +0200 > +++ xrandr.1-new2007-09-21 18:23:52.0 +0200 > @@ -83,7 +83,9 @@ > reported while executing the configuration changes. > .IP \-q > When this option is present, or when no configuration changes are > requested, > -xrandr will display the current state of the system. > +xrandr will display the current state of the system. A '*' near a mode > +precises the mode used. A '+' near a mode precises that the corresponding > +output is enabled. BTW, the + means preferred mode, not enabled. Alex
Re: Mac Mini: problem displaying on 1600x1200 LCD
On 9/21/07, Mich Lanners <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Michel, > > On 21 Sep, this message from Michel Dänzer echoed through cyberspace: > > On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 21:21 +0200, Mich Lanners wrote: > >> > >> After much trying and testing, what finally made it work is > >> specifying > >> > >> Option "UseFBDev" "true" > >> > >> Since there seems to be ongoing work on the radeon driver, I thought > >> it might be useful to report the problem. For me the workaround is > >> OK > > > > The current upstream development version of the radeon driver no > > longer supports Option "UseFBDev" though as it's incompatible with > > several other driver features, in particular RandR 1.2. Please try > > xserver-xorg-video-ati from sid and experimental. > > Neither of them detects any EDID. > > At home, sid (1:6.6.193-3) still defaults to a sane mode driving the > "right" output (DVI) by default. I guess this is because of "UseFBDev". > > However, experimental (1:6.7.192-4) does not produce any valid mode by > default. Even specifying > > Option "PreferredMode" "1280x1024" > > does not make it show anything. According to the log, it's trying to > drive the DVI, and it (correctly, AFAICT) reports that the two other > ports don't have a connection. Also, in experimental, the section > showing the possible and chosen video modes is missing from the log. > Find attached the log for 1:6.6.193-3 and 1:6.7.192-4, the latter being > incomplete since it stops with 100% CPU at that point, and needs a kill > -9... > > What else do you need as information? What do you want me to try? The mac mini needs a custom connector table like most other macs. what connectors does it have? based on apple's web site, it looks like it has just a DVI port that can drive DVI or VGA or tv-out (via DVI adapters). I'm guessing it uses internal TMDS and the TV DAC. The question is what ddc line it uses. Does adding the following option in the device section of your config help? Option "ConnectorTable" "X,1,0,3,0,1,2,6" replace X with 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 until you get DDC working. Once we sort this out, I'll add a MacModel option for the mini. Alex
Re: Mac Mini: problem displaying on 1600x1200 LCD
On 9/22/07, Alex Deucher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Once we sort this out, I'll add a MacModel option for the mini. fixed in ati git master: Option "MacModel" "mini" the following option should also work with the current driver: Option "ConnectorTable" "4,1,1,3,0,1,2,6" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mac Mini: problem displaying on 1600x1200 LCD
On 9/23/07, Mich Lanners <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Alex, > > On 22 Sep, this message from Alex Deucher echoed through cyberspace: > > On 9/22/07, Alex Deucher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Once we sort this out, I'll add a MacModel option for the mini. > > > > fixed in ati git master: > > Option "MacModel" "mini" > > > > the following option should also work with the current driver: > > Option "ConnectorTable" "4,1,1,3,0,1,2,6" > > OK, this works to detect the correct monitor on DVI-I, either with a DVI > cable or a VGA cable (plus adapter). So yes, this seems to fix the EDID > detection problem. > > In the version I'm trying (1:6.7.192-4), radeon detects two monitor > ports: DVI-I and S-Video. Is that the intended way? Previous versions > detected 3 ports they detected 3 ports because that's the default layout when the driver doesn't know what connectors the card has. I don't know what's included in 6.7.192-4 exactly. > > I still have the problem that the version from unstable (1:6.7.192-4) > hangs just after validating the modes, eating all CPU. Is this still a problem when using the connectortable option or with newer versions? > > Unfortunately the ConnectorTable option is not supported in 1:6.6.193-3, > so I can't verify if the EDID fix makes radeon choose a correct mode in > the absence of UseFBDev option. Right. 6.6.x didn't have that option. there was no way to force the connector layout. fbdev sometimes did the right thing. It's one of the improvements in the new driver. > > So, anything about the hang that I can try? does it still hang with the connectortable option or with the latest version from ati git? Alex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: radeon driver updates for mac laptops
On 9/21/07, Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2007-09-21 at 11:54 -0400, Alex Deucher wrote: > > > > > - for LVDS, "xrandr -q" prints always 0mm x 0mm > > > > We currently don't have a method to get this information from the > > hardware on mac cards. > > We have the EDID... this should be fixed now for panels with EDID. ati git master. Alex
Re: radeon driver updates for mac laptops
On 9/24/07, Uwe Steinmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > has anybody been successful on an iBook G4? > motherboard : PowerBook6,5 MacRISC3 Power Macintosh > detected as : 287 (iBook G4) > you will need: Option "MacModel" "ibook" the ibook has a very odd connector config. > I'm running debian sid and the ati driver from experimental > (Version 1:6.7.192-4). I hope that is recent enough. > you need at least 6.7.193 for the MacModel option. Alex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: radeon driver updates for mac laptops
On 9/24/07, Gerfried Fuchs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Uwe Steinmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-09-24 13:19:48 CEST]: > > (II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS connected > > (II) RADEON(0): Output VGA-0 disconnected > > (II) RADEON(0): Output S-video disconnected > > (II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS using initial mode 1024x768 > > > > I already bootet with the external monitor pluged in, but that doesn't > > make a difference. > > Did you give xrandr a try? Like, > "xrandr --output VGA-0 --right-of LVDS"? It doesn't use it by default, > which I personally don't want anyway, and you haven't sent your > xorg.conf with which you expected it to be used by default. > > What I wonder, is there a way to automatically detect that the VGA/DVI > part got plugged in? I wonder if some triggers could be implemented, > but I haven't seen anything in dmesg/syslog/messages about it. > yes, if the monitor provides DDC, running xrandr --auto should do the trick. If the monitor does not provide DDC, we attempt load detection on the primary dac. We have load detection code for the tvdac as well, but it tends to be unreliable so it's disabled by default. > > BTW: the updated ati driver scrambles the mouse pointer. It is shifted > > to on side by probably half the width. Known issue: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11796 Alex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: radeon driver updates for mac laptops
On 9/24/07, Gerfried Fuchs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Alex Deucher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-09-24 15:15:40 CEST]: > > On 9/24/07, Gerfried Fuchs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What I wonder, is there a way to automatically detect that the VGA/DVI > > > part got plugged in? I wonder if some triggers could be implemented, > > > but I haven't seen anything in dmesg/syslog/messages about it. > > > > yes, if the monitor provides DDC, running xrandr --auto should do the > > trick. If the monitor does not provide DDC, we attempt load detection > > on the primary dac. We have load detection code for the tvdac as > > well, but it tends to be unreliable so it's disabled by default. > > Hmm, it seems like running --auto switched my system to forced mirror > mode, I can't seem to switch back to --right-of LVDS. Is this on > intention, I don't guess so... > Actually just about any time you run xrandr it re-queries the outputs. I don't see why you shouldn't be able to switch back. what sort of error are you getting? Alex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: radeon driver updates for mac laptops
On 9/27/07, Uwe Steinmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 09:11:30AM -0400, Alex Deucher wrote: > > On 9/24/07, Uwe Steinmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > has anybody been successful on an iBook G4? > > > motherboard : PowerBook6,5 MacRISC3 Power Macintosh > > > detected as : 287 (iBook G4) > > > > > > > you will need: > > Option "MacModel" "ibook" > > the ibook has a very odd connector config. > > > > > I'm running debian sid and the ati driver from experimental > > > (Version 1:6.7.192-4). I hope that is recent enough. > > > > > > > you need at least 6.7.193 for the MacModel option. > I am now at 6.7.194, but still not successful. MacModell is set > and I cleaned up my xorg.conf which still had MergeFB and a > Screen section for the external monitor. I think that is all > obsolete when using xrandr. My xorg.conf is attached. I'm a > bit clueless. The option is "MacModel" not "MacModell" although it looks like it's correct in your config. Can you also post your xorg log with 6.7.194 and that option enabled? Alex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: radeon driver updates for mac laptops
On 9/27/07, Uwe Steinmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 03:48:40PM -0400, Alex Deucher wrote: > > On 9/27/07, Uwe Steinmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 09:11:30AM -0400, Alex Deucher wrote: > > > > On 9/24/07, Uwe Steinmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > has anybody been successful on an iBook G4? > > > > > motherboard : PowerBook6,5 MacRISC3 Power Macintosh > > > > > detected as : 287 (iBook G4) > > > > > > > > > > > > > you will need: > > > > Option "MacModel" "ibook" > > > > the ibook has a very odd connector config. > > > > > > > > > I'm running debian sid and the ati driver from experimental > > > > > (Version 1:6.7.192-4). I hope that is recent enough. > > > > > > > > > > > > > you need at least 6.7.193 for the MacModel option. > > > I am now at 6.7.194, but still not successful. MacModell is set > > > and I cleaned up my xorg.conf which still had MergeFB and a > > > Screen section for the external monitor. I think that is all > > > obsolete when using xrandr. My xorg.conf is attached. I'm a > > > bit clueless. > > > > The option is "MacModel" not "MacModell" although it looks like it's > > correct in your config. Can you also post your xorg log with 6.7.194 > > and that option enabled? > Typo in this mail. The config is fine. Here ist the log. > > Thanks for the help. > either you monitor doesn't do ddc or your ibook uses a different i2c line (). you can force the monitor on with these commands: xrandr --addmode VGA-0 1024x768 xrandr --output VGA-0 --mode 1024x768 If it is indeed using a different i2c line, try the following: Option "ConnectorTable" "2,2,2,1,X,1,2,2" replace X with 1 or 3 or 4 or 5 and see which, if any, are able to get an edid from your monitor. Alex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: radeon driver updates for mac laptops
On 9/27/07, Uwe Steinmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 05:19:22PM -0400, Alex Deucher wrote: > > On 9/27/07, Uwe Steinmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 03:48:40PM -0400, Alex Deucher wrote: > > > > On 9/27/07, Uwe Steinmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 09:11:30AM -0400, Alex Deucher wrote: > > > > > > On 9/24/07, Uwe Steinmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has anybody been successful on an iBook G4? > > > > > > > motherboard : PowerBook6,5 MacRISC3 Power Macintosh > > > > > > > detected as : 287 (iBook G4) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you will need: > > > > > > Option "MacModel" "ibook" > > > > > > the ibook has a very odd connector config. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm running debian sid and the ati driver from experimental > > > > > > > (Version 1:6.7.192-4). I hope that is recent enough. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you need at least 6.7.193 for the MacModel option. > > > > > I am now at 6.7.194, but still not successful. MacModell is set > > > > > and I cleaned up my xorg.conf which still had MergeFB and a > > > > > Screen section for the external monitor. I think that is all > > > > > obsolete when using xrandr. My xorg.conf is attached. I'm a > > > > > bit clueless. > > > > > > > > The option is "MacModel" not "MacModell" although it looks like it's > > > > correct in your config. Can you also post your xorg log with 6.7.194 > > > > and that option enabled? > > > Typo in this mail. The config is fine. Here ist the log. > > > > > > Thanks for the help. > > > > > > > either you monitor doesn't do ddc or your ibook uses a different i2c > > line (). > > you can force the monitor on with these commands: > > xrandr --addmode VGA-0 1024x768 > > xrandr --output VGA-0 --mode 1024x768 > That was it. The monitor must be simply too old. Very suprising > to me. You made my day. Thanks. if you try the different DDC lines I suggested you monitor may actually provide an edid. It might be that apple wired up some of the ibooks differently. Alex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: radeon driver updates for mac laptops
On 9/28/07, Uwe Steinmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 07:01:30PM -0400, Alex Deucher wrote: > > On 9/27/07, Uwe Steinmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 05:19:22PM -0400, Alex Deucher wrote: > > > > On 9/27/07, Uwe Steinmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 03:48:40PM -0400, Alex Deucher wrote: > > > > > > On 9/27/07, Uwe Steinmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 09:11:30AM -0400, Alex Deucher wrote: > > > > > > > > On 9/24/07, Uwe Steinmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has anybody been successful on an iBook G4? > > > > > > > > > motherboard : PowerBook6,5 MacRISC3 Power Macintosh > > > > > > > > > detected as : 287 (iBook G4) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you will need: > > > > > > > > Option "MacModel" "ibook" > > > > > > > > the ibook has a very odd connector config. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm running debian sid and the ati driver from experimental > > > > > > > > > (Version 1:6.7.192-4). I hope that is recent enough. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you need at least 6.7.193 for the MacModel option. > > > > > > > I am now at 6.7.194, but still not successful. MacModell is set > > > > > > > and I cleaned up my xorg.conf which still had MergeFB and a > > > > > > > Screen section for the external monitor. I think that is all > > > > > > > obsolete when using xrandr. My xorg.conf is attached. I'm a > > > > > > > bit clueless. > > > > > > > > > > > > The option is "MacModel" not "MacModell" although it looks like it's > > > > > > correct in your config. Can you also post your xorg log with > > > > > > 6.7.194 > > > > > > and that option enabled? > > > > > Typo in this mail. The config is fine. Here ist the log. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > either you monitor doesn't do ddc or your ibook uses a different i2c > > > > line (). > > > > you can force the monitor on with these commands: > > > > xrandr --addmode VGA-0 1024x768 > > > > xrandr --output VGA-0 --mode 1024x768 > > > That was it. The monitor must be simply too old. Very suprising > > > to me. You made my day. Thanks. > > > > if you try the different DDC lines I suggested you monitor may > > actually provide an edid. It might be that apple wired up some of the > > ibooks differently. > I replaced X with 1, 3, 4, 5 in > Option "ConnectorTable" "2,2,2,1,X,1,2,2" > but in no case the monitor provides the edid. I'll check with a > different monitor when I'm back at work on monday. > great. thanks for testing! Alex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: radeon driver updates for mac laptops
I've re-added debian-powerpc. On 10/3/07, Jörg Sommer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Alex, > > Alex Deucher schrieb am Tue 02. Oct, 13:35 (-0400): > > On 10/2/07, Jörg Sommer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Alex Deucher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Those of you with radeon based mac laptops please test the latest code > > > > in that ati git tree. I recently added connector table and quirk > > > > information for mac laptops. You will need at least xserver 1.3 and a > > > > recent version of xrandr (1.2.2 preferred) to test. > > > > > > I've an iBook G4 and have installed the ati driver from Debian > > > experimental. (Nearly) All works fine. I didn't had to add the MacModel > > > option to xorg.conf and only had to remove the HorizSync and VertRefresh > > > entries from the device sections of the internal display. > > > > hmmm, so it worked out of the box without a ConnectorTable option or > > MacModel option? > > Yes. > > > That would imply that your ibook has yet another connector set up. > > Oh, said to hear this. > > > Can you send me your xorg config and log so that I can verify the > > output setup on your system? > > Yes, I've appended them. So the vga port works properly huh? It seems you indeed have yet another connector table. it seems to work fine with the default table, so I don't know whether it makes sense to add another ibook quirk or just leave it with the default set up. Regarding the panel issue you mentioned, if you set option "MacModel" "ibook" does turning off the panel work properly? This will break your vga port while it's enabled, but it should help sort out the panel issue. Alex
Re: radeon driver updates for mac laptops
On 10/4/07, Jörg Sommer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Alex, > > I did confuse the config files in my last test. So, forget everything I > said. > > Alex Deucher schrieb am Wed 03. Oct, 22:34 (-0400): > > On 10/3/07, Jörg Sommer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Alex Deucher schrieb am Tue 02. Oct, 13:35 (-0400): > > > > On 10/2/07, Jörg Sommer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Alex Deucher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Those of you with radeon based mac laptops please test the latest > > > > > > code > > > > > > in that ati git tree. I recently added connector table and quirk > > > > > > information for mac laptops. You will need at least xserver 1.3 > > > > > > and a > > > > > > recent version of xrandr (1.2.2 preferred) to test. > > > > > > > > > > I've an iBook G4 and have installed the ati driver from Debian > > > > > experimental. (Nearly) All works fine. I didn't had to add the > > > > > MacModel > > > > > option to xorg.conf and only had to remove the HorizSync and > > > > > VertRefresh > > > > > entries from the device sections of the internal display. > > > > > > > > hmmm, so it worked out of the box without a ConnectorTable option or > > > > MacModel option? > > No. I must add the MacModell ibook option. Otherwise the external > connector didn't work. > > > Regarding the panel issue you mentioned, if you set option "MacModel" > > "ibook" does turning off the panel work properly? > > No. To illustrate what I mean with "becomes destroyed" I made some > images. http://www.minet.uni-jena.de/~joergs/ibook/ > > The "damage" happens also when starting and stopping the X server while > the external monitor is plugged in. If it's unplugged, the screen stays > black until the window manager comes up. Does dpms off (xset dpms --force off) work properly on LVDS or does it do the same thing? Alex
Re: About the computational power of g4 machines
Hi Rogério, 2009/5/16 Rogério Brito : >> Am Samstag 16 Mai 2009 09:59:50 schrieb Rogério Brito: >> > http://images.apple.com/movies/us/hd_gallery/gl1800/480p/gilmour_480p.mov >> > http://images.apple.com/movies/us/hd_gallery/gl1800/720p/gilmour_720p.mov >> > http://images.apple.com/movies/us/hd_gallery/gl1800/1080p/gilmour_1080p.mov >> >> 1080p is not viewable here (with compiz activated, didnt try without, >> graphics >> hardware see below) > > Right. I thought it would be hard to see. But how much "not viewable" is > it? Are you using mplayer? Do you have many frame drops? Another data point for you: on my mac mini with its g...@1.25 MHz, the 480p is viewable and the CPU is at 60-70%. The 720p is viewable but it skips a lot, CPU is maxed out. 1080p is not viewable. This with xine and mplayer, both gave similar results. > The opportunity that I have is to purchase an iBook G4 800MHz. As I have > never used a machine with Altivec before, I don't know how it would be > useful for playing, say, DVDs with de-interlacing enabled or some MPEG-4 > Part 2 or some H.264 videos. My old iMac g...@400 MHz could play DVDs, but I believe it used MacOSX-only hardware acceleration to do the trick. The mac mini can play them perfectly on Debian with no drops whatsoever. In fact it makes a wonderful media center. Cheers, Alex. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
new to powerpc, quetion about wireless
Hi I have been using debian for while, but I am looking at buying one of these http://excito.com/bubba/products/technical-specifications.html Got the hint from somebody on the debian-user list. The basics of it are 256 MB DDR2 333 MHz Power PC 2 x 1000 Mbit/s it also has a mini pci slot which I am hoping to install a minipci wireless card in. My concern and the reason I am asking the list, is am i going to run into any problem with architecture and mini pci wireless cards ? My thoughts are to run asterisk and firewall, openvpn. Going to install a SSD to run it off Thanks Alex signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: new to powerpc, quetion about wireless
On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 10:10:11PM -0700, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: > On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 09:38:17 +1000 > Alex Samad wrote: > > > Hi > > > > I have been using debian for while, but I am looking at buying one of > > these > > > > http://excito.com/bubba/products/technical-specifications.html > > > > Got the hint from somebody on the debian-user list. The basics of it are > > > > 256 MB DDR2 > > 333 MHz Power PC > > 2 x 1000 Mbit/s > > > > > > it also has a mini pci slot which I am hoping to install a minipci > > wireless card in. > > > > My concern and the reason I am asking the list, is am i going to run > > into any problem with architecture and mini pci wireless cards ? > > > > My thoughts are to run asterisk and firewall, openvpn. Going to install > > a SSD to run it off > > To find out wireless support for linux check out the following site: > > http://linux-wless.passys.nl/index.php interesting site, i guess I was after a more general answer along the lines of if it works on i386 it should work on powerpc > > signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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Renaud Dreyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Abologies to Yann since I cc'ed 2 bugs with this, but I think it should be
> > in
> > the discussion of both.
> >
> > While this bug *is* resolved in 1999.08.29-9 for me the prerm script in
> > 1999.08.29-8 (the one that actually broke on my machine) fails, so the new
> > one
> > does not get installed. In my case, the solution was to obtain the actual
> > deb
> > (should be in /var/cache/apt/archives/console-data_1999.08.29-9_all.deb if
> > apt
> > just failed) and dpkg -i --force confnew console-data_1999.08.29-9.deb.
> > That
> > made the install succeed. I don't know if there is any way to make this
> > automatically use the new scripts, but it would help.
>
> Unfortunately this didn't work for me, I still get the same error. I also
> have a "/proc/hardware not found" error by the way. Thanks,
>
i don't have a /proc/hardware either. what i did is edited
/var/lib/dpkg/info/console-data.config and added my architecture by
hand:
if (($arch eq 'powerpc') || ($arch eq 'm68k')) {
# my $subarch = lc substr (`grep ^Model: /proc/hardware`, 7);
# $subarch =~ s/^macintosh$/mac/;
# $subarch =~ s/^motorola$/mvme/;
# $subarch =~ s/^powermac|powerbook*|power|imac*|powermac1*$/pmac/;
# $arch = "$arch/$subarch";
$arch = "powerpc/pmac"; <-- add the corresponding arch
}
this is line 359. not elegant but i finally got console-data
configured. (after making the changes run dpkg --configure
console-data).
--alex--
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Re: PowerPC: Need help with xfig
Roland Rosenfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So maybe someone of you can track down the problem (maybe compiling > with gcc272 helps?) or can check out with a debugger what exactly > causes the segfault in set_line_stuff()? > i finally got xfig to work on the powerpc. because of sloppy programming one of the functions wasn't prototyped correctly. just apply this patch: --- u_draw.c-orig Sun Jan 16 19:16:10 2000 +++ u_draw.cSun Jan 16 19:11:18 2000 @@ -40,6 +40,10 @@ #include "w_setup.h" #include "w_zoom.h" +void curve(Window, int, int, int, int, Boolean, Boolean, int, +int, int, int, int, +int, int, int, float,int, int, int, int); + /* declarations for splines */ #define HIGH_PRECISION0.5 @@ -1894,7 +1898,7 @@ / -curve(window, xstart, ystart, xend, yend, draw_points, draw_center, +void curve(window, xstart, ystart, xend, yend, draw_points, draw_center, direction, a, b, xoff, yoff, op, thick, style, style_val, fill_style, pen_color, fill_color, cap_style) Window window; --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. |
Re: Unidentified subject!
Geert Uytterhoeven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > i don't have a /proc/hardware either. what i did is edited > > /var/lib/dpkg/info/console-data.config and added my architecture > > by hand: > > Hence you should compile kernels with support for the proc > filesystem and make sure /proc is mounted. > as a matter of fact i have a kernel with support for the proc system but there is no /proc/hardware. i don't see it on my intel machine, nor on my sparc, nor on my alpha. i do have a /proc/cpuinfo though. this is the output: processor : 0 cpu : unknown (12) clock : 400MHz revision: 2.6 bogomips: 796.26 zero pages : total 0 (0Kb) current: 0 (0Kb) hits: 0/483 (0%) machine : PowerMac1,2 motherboard : PowerMac1,2 PowerMac1,1 MacRISC Power Macintosh L2 cache: 1024K unified memory : 256MB any constructive suggestions? --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. |
Re: Yosemite G3 and Debian/PPC
Adrianne Rutledge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Anyone have any experience with this field? I'm desperately seeking an > alternative to A) LinuxPPC... redhat, basically, B) TurboLinux... never > tried it, not really in a hurry to, or C) Compiling Slackware to run on > PowerPC, I'm not that insane, yet. Anyway... the bootdisk tells me that my > PowerPC architecture is not supported. I get that far by using the ramdisk > and a custom kernel I compiled for my PPC750 400(Mot part) with a cross > compiler on my K6-3 400. > i have a G4, so basically i had the same problem. what i did is use the linuxppc boot disk, get the computer on the network, switch to the console (i think alt f2) untar the base files (i can't remember where i got them from), edit /etc/fstab, remove /sbin/check_configure (or something like that), edit /etc/hosts (did i forget anything?). reboot, and you have a debian installation. from there just use dselect + apt to upgrade/install all the packages you want. let me know if you need more help. --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. |
Re: perl-5.005 fails to build on powerpc
Matt Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is anybody else having any luck? ndbm fails in two tests and I don't > see any talk of this problem. Full test log is in bug #55932. > i had no problems building perl 5.005.03-5.2. i can make the debs available if somebody wants them. --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. |
Re: perl-5.005 fails to build on powerpc
Matt Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > i had no problems building perl 5.005.03-5.2. i can make the debs > > available if somebody wants them. > > Uh oh, I'm more worried now that my fully upgraded potato box (excluding > the broken console-data) can't build 5.005.03-5.x. > > Are you a developer? Can you make an NMU to master of these? > i'll do it later today. --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. |
Re: perl-5.005 fails to build on powerpc
Matt Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hrm. Ok, but I will let Alex do the upload since he appears to have > -5.3 building from source (he did say later today). the machine is in macos mode right now. expect the upload tonight when i reboot it in linux. sorry for the delay. --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. |
Re: perl-5.005 fails to build on powerpc
Matt Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Uh oh, I'm more worried now that my fully upgraded potato box (excluding > the broken console-data) can't build 5.005.03-5.x. > > Are you a developer? Can you make an NMU to master of these? > i compiled perl 5.005.03-5.3 but i don't know how to sign the packages (i never did an NMU). i would appreciate any help. in the meantime you can get the packages from ftp://caliban.lbl.gov/pub/debian/powerpc/ --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. |
Re: Getting Dual Independent Heads to work on Debian(sid) on iBook
this is from the DRI (front, back, and depth buffers) not the 2D driver I think. Alex --- "Andreakis, Dean (MED)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (WW) RADEON (0): Static buffer allocation failed -- need at least > 9216 > kB video memory > (II) RADEON (0): Memory manager initialzed to (0,0) (10124,2048) > (II) RADEON (0): Reserved area from (0,768) to (1024, 770) > (II) RADEON (0): Largest offscreen area available: 1024 x 1278 > > ... > > (WW) RADEON (1): Static buffer allocation failed -- need at least > 9216 > kB video memory > (II) RADEON (1): Memory manager initialzed to (0,0) (10124,2048) > (II) RADEON (1): Reserved area from (0,768) to (1024, 770) > (II) RADEON (1): Largest offscreen area available: 1024 x 1278 > > It seems confusing to me since I have 16MBytes of video memory > installed. For 1024x768x32bpp mode (worste case) this only calculates > to > 3145728 bytes per screen but yet its telling me I need 9216 kBytes > per > screen...h...must be more buffer allocation needed by the chip > then > just the on-screen area frame buffer > > any thoughts? > > thx... > > -dean andreakis __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com
Re: Getting Dual Independent Heads to work on Debian(sid) on iBook
It's not the DRI per se... it's the radeon memory manager. it attempts to statically allocate offscreen memory for use by the DRI, pixmaps, etc. It has no effect on modes, so you can safely ignore it. Alex --- "Andreakis, Dean (MED)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alex, > > I went ahead and commented out the dri section and the Load "dri", > Load > "GLcore" and Load "glx" lines in the "Module" section of XF86Config-4 > to > try and prevent the DRI drivers from loading but I still see the same > messages in the XF86 log file. Maybe I need to do something else to > stop > DRI from trying to load... > > thx, > > -dean andreakis > > On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 14:47, Alex Deucher wrote: > > this is from the DRI (front, back, and depth buffers) not the 2D > driver > > I think. > > > > Alex > > > > --- "Andreakis, Dean (MED)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > (WW) RADEON (0): Static buffer allocation failed -- need at least > > > 9216 > > > kB video memory > > > (II) RADEON (0): Memory manager initialzed to (0,0) (10124,2048) > > > (II) RADEON (0): Reserved area from (0,768) to (1024, 770) > > > (II) RADEON (0): Largest offscreen area available: 1024 x 1278 > > > > > > ... > > > > > > (WW) RADEON (1): Static buffer allocation failed -- need at least > > > 9216 > > > kB video memory > > > (II) RADEON (1): Memory manager initialzed to (0,0) (10124,2048) > > > (II) RADEON (1): Reserved area from (0,768) to (1024, 770) > > > (II) RADEON (1): Largest offscreen area available: 1024 x 1278 > > > > > > It seems confusing to me since I have 16MBytes of video memory > > > installed. For 1024x768x32bpp mode (worste case) this only > calculates > > > to > > > 3145728 bytes per screen but yet its telling me I need 9216 > kBytes > > > per > > > screen...h...must be more buffer allocation needed by the > chip > > > then > > > just the on-screen area frame buffer > > > > > > any thoughts? > > > > > > thx... > > > > > > -dean andreakis > > > > > > __ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). > > http://calendar.yahoo.com > > ___ > > Devel mailing list > > Devel@XFree86.Org > > http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@XFree86.Org > http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com
Re: imac 400 and Xfree
Riccardo, on my stable (woody) imac 233 my config is at : /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 video relate sections include: Section "Device" Identifier "Generic Video Card" Driver "ati" BusID "PCI:0:18:0" Option "UseFBDev""true" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Generic Monitor" HorizSync "60-60" VertRefresh"75-117" Option "DPMS" EndSection Keep in mind this is for an G3 233 Bondi Imac, but I believe I've got the same video as you listed. Good Luck, Alex --- giskard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ciao, > I have a imac 400 with a ati rage 128 (for a better > description > http://www.lowendmac.com/imacs/2001-400.htmli) > I configure X and I use the module r128 but when i > do startx he says me > that he founds a screen but he hasn't a usable > configuration > what I can do? > > thanks, > riccardo > > (sorry for my English but I'am italian) > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > __ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/
Re: StyleWriterII on non-PPC Linux
linuxprinting.org is your friend: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Apple-StyleWriter_II On 9/13/05, Gunther Furtado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > This is probably a little off-topic but can anyone tell if and how it is > possible > to use StyleWriter II on a non-PPC Debian box. If it is possible, will a > parallel > to 8-pin minidim cable do the trick? What else do I need for using old > printers? > > Thank you, > > Gunther Furtado > >
Re: Gimp Print missing after upgrade
> After my latest upgrade (I am using deb testing) Gimp does not give me the > option to print. I found that the file /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-in/print is > gone in is not now provieded by the deb package. This is the file that > provides the printing plug-in for the Gimp. Does anyone know why it is > missing? Is the just a ppc issue? or has it been removed for everyone. The project has changed name: it is now called gutenprint. Maybe some package dependency is missing? Alex.
Re: Sound on powermac g3 blue and white
> Well I got it to work finally :D.I had to install alsa-base,I also had > to change to 8bits sound,and I have to do a killall artsd before I > start some applications,but it seems to work great now.Time to go play > some quake 3. Hi Derek, If you are not going to use it, you should disable artsd in the configuration of KDE (KDE Control Center -> Sound and Multimedia -> Sound System -> General -> (not) Enable the sound system). Not only is it a very cpu-consuming daemon, but many programs don't play nice with it. If you should want to have sound mixing on your system, use dmix: http://www.thepenguin.org.uk/alsa/ It is very CPU-efficient and works great. Cheers, Alex.
Re: Debian on a mac mini
> It works just fine. Is suspend-to-disk working too? Thanks, Alex.
Re: WMV DLL for ppc.
Hi Federico, On 6/6/05, Federico 'Pain' Pistono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Did anybody find a way to play these videos? > I know this video codec sucks, but often some videos are only reachable > with this format. Have you tried with vlc? It plays wmv: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/features.html It's in debian too. http://packages.debian.org/testing/graphics/vlc Alex.
Re: WMV DLL for ppc.
Oh crap, and I just subscribed to this powerpc list! On 6/6/05, Andreas Wuest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 6/6/05, Federico 'Pain' Pistono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > looks like I could not manage to find a way to play wmv under my debian > > sarge PPC. > > For what I understood is that the dll that, for instance, mplayer provides > > are compiled solely for a x86 architecture, so they won't work under PPC. > > What does this matter now anyway... Fun with our nice RISC platform's over. > > http://www.thinksecret.com/news/wwdc05keynote.html > > -- > Sorry, > Andi > >
compiling packages on powerpc
i just installed debian on a powerpc, and i am trying to get familiar with it (the 2.1 kernel, glibc 2.1, etc). i started by trying to compile some of the packages which are already part of the distribution, but i am puzzled by my lack of success. in particular i am trying to compile netbase and i fail. how does debian manage architecture specific patches? the distribution has only one set of patches/sources for all architectures. i assume that somehow the diff file contains all the necessary changes, but in the case of the powerpc these changes haven't made it into the main distribution yet? is there a place where i can find powerpc specific patches for debian? i am a complete newbie when it comes to powerpc (until know i've worked only with intel machines) so any help is appreciated. thanks. --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. |
Re: compiling packages on powerpc
i know how to compile debian packages, i maintain a few myself. it's only that until now i dealt only with intel (and a brief aborted attempt with an alpha) machines. i realize the distribution is mostly experimental, and i am trying to help as much as i can. right now i am trying to compile the latest xfree86 stuff, but the linker core dumps when is trying to create the X11 shared library. also there are problems with nvi, it won't let me edit a large file (it says it doesn't know the name of the file, and i can't save it), and vim seems to screw up the file altogether. ae core dumps, so i am kind of limited in my choice of editors here. i am working with the powerpc tarball i got from master, and then i did a dselect update, etc. things seem to be working okay, i changed /etc/inittab to use getty instead of mingetty, which was in the tarball, but didn't seem to belong to any package. anyway, the tarball seems to work fine, if we only had an installation disk... for the record, you build a package by doing: dpkg-source -x package_x-y.dsc cd package-x build --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. |
Re: compiling packages on powerpc
>to be in the /etc/inittab. With the current getty you can't login! >So change it before you reset! yes, i've rebooted the computer quite a few times. but i am using kernel version 2.1.115 (otherwise you can't login, as you noticed). --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. |
Re: compiling packages on powerpc
>scsi didn't keep crashing). In fact, I am going to upload X to master >as soon as I clear the NMU with Branden. did you include the Xpmac server, or is there something else you are supposed to use on a ppc? --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. |
Re: debian/slink base tarball ...
i started with the redhat based ppc distribution, i installed just the base set + ftp so i could get the tarball over. for this i made a partition of 100M, but it easily fits in 50, i think. installed the tarball on the other partition, installed the new kernel (2.1.115 at that time), installed the new kernel for redhat also. copy quik over to debian (is there a debian package for quik? is there something better than quik?). mounted the debian partition from redhat as /debian. did 'chroot /debian /bin/sh'. run quik on debian. reset whatever needs to be reset so the powerpc will boot off debian next time. rebooted the computer into debian. made the former redhat partition swap space. and that was it. not the most elegant way, but i was dying to have debian on the powerpc. --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. |
Re: Location of root tar file?
it is in Incoming. there must be a list of sites that mirror Incoming somewhere. actually try: ftp://ftp1.us.debian.org/debian/Incoming/base-powerpc.tar.gz. --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. |
Re: slink tarball on apus system ...
i had this problem when i was using the 2.1.24 kernel (or whatever comes with linux ppc). once i upgraded to 2.1.115 all the problems went away (well, at least the important ones). if i understand correctly, because of glibc, you need to use a kernel greater than 2.1.10? (i can't remember the last digit). it's something about changes in chown/lchown. hope this helps. --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. |
Re: slink tarball on apus system ...
>it seems to work fine, but i cannot install packages with dpkg. it >reports lots of 'cannot chown to uid 0 gid 0, function not >implemented', i suppose this is more of the chown/lchown stuff. this is the same chown/lchown problem. --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. |
Re: Status of Debian on the PowerMacs?
>Anyway, it gets to the VFS mount stage, output stops, the drive >grinds for a little while, a couple of "route forgot to specify >netmask" messages pop up, and then it hangs. Though it works fine >with the RedHat partition. > are you still using the default redhat kernel (2.1.24 i think)? i remember having similar problems, until i upgraded the kernel to something greater than 2.1.10x. i am currently using 2.1.115. --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. |
Re: Status of Debian on the PowerMacs?
i don't think you can compile the standard kernel on powerpc's. i got mine form ftp://ftp.linuxppc.org/linuxppc/powermac/v2.1.115. --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. |
Re: Status of Debian on the PowerMacs?
i think you should mention that the kernel version has to be greater than 2.1.102 (not sure about the last digit) because of the chown/lchown problem. i spent enough time figuring this out. --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. |
booting back into debian
i can't seem to be able to boot back into debian after i delete the redhat partition. this is what i did. i created three partitions, one swap 20mb, one unix partition 100mb, and another unix partition for the rest of the disk. i installed the base redhad ppc system on the 100mb partition + ftp, got the debian tarball, unpacked it in the other partition modified quik to point to /dev/sda4 rebooted and the system came back under debian. next, i made a swap partition out of the redhat one, and then i wanted to reboot the computer but it doesn't want to come back under linux any more. i went back to macos, run bootvars with these parameters: boot-device=scsi/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:0 boot-file=/boot/vmlinux /dev/sda4 still no luck. does anybody have any ideas? in the past i went back and reinstalled the redhat base system on /dev/sda3 and continued from there, but i don't want to do that again. i want to find a reliable way to reboot my computer without redhat on it. thanks. --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. |
Re: booting back into debian
>did you make your debian partition bootable? before you removed the >redhat one, it was probably getting the bootblocks from there.. how do you make a partition bootable? can i do it now (without destroying my partitions)? --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. |
Re: List of powerpc owners
>this is a list of people with a powerpc system. It is always good to >have such i have a PowerComputing PowerCenter 132MHz computer on which i run debian linux (finally managed to boot back, after i deleted the old redhat mini-partition). i am also willing to help with the port (i've been compiling packages for my own use) and i am a debian maintainer for some i386 packages. --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. |
Re: List of powerpc owners
>> i have a PowerComputing PowerCenter 132MHz computer on which i run > >603 or 604 cpu? it's a 604. >You have a working glibc-2.1 system (now)? Very good! sort of. i just installed the latest egcc from Incoming, and now i can't even compile a simple c++ program. i haven't tried c yet. maybe i'll try to get apache going. --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. |
Re: List of powerpc owners
the new egcc seems to compile simple c programs, but it doesn't
compile c++. this is what i get when i try to compile this program:
#include
int main(int argc, char** argv)
{
cout << "hello world" << endl;
}
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-linux/egcs-2.91.56/libstdc++.so: undefined reference
to `exception type_info function'
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-linux/egcs-2.91.56/libstdc++.so: undefined reference
to `__cp_push_exception'
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-linux/egcs-2.91.56/libstdc++.so: undefined reference
to `__rtti_user'
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-linux/egcs-2.91.56/libstdc++.so: undefined reference
to `__rtti_si'
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-linux/egcs-2.91.56/libstdc++.so: undefined reference
to `terminate(void)'
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-linux/egcs-2.91.56/libstdc++.so: undefined reference
to `exception type_info node'
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-linux/egcs-2.91.56/libstdc++.so: undefined reference
to `__builtin_vec_new'
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-linux/egcs-2.91.56/libstdc++.so: undefined reference
to `__builtin_vec_delete'
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-linux/egcs-2.91.56/libstdc++.so: undefined reference
to `exception virtual table'
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-linux/egcs-2.91.56/libstdc++.so: undefined reference
to `__rtti_class'
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-linux/egcs-2.91.56/libstdc++.so: undefined reference
to `__builtin_delete'
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-linux/egcs-2.91.56/libstdc++.so: undefined reference
to `__builtin_new'
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-linux/egcs-2.91.56/libstdc++.so: undefined reference
to `__eh_alloc'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
--alex--
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| I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active |
| advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with |
| automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion |
| and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. |
Re: List of powerpc owners
>[problems with booting into debian] you need to upgrade your kernel to a version greater than 2.1.102. try 2.1.115 from ftp.linuxppc.org. this is becoming a faq. --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. |
Re: PowerPC Base Files
Hartmut Koptein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > These two are incompatible! MkLinux uses the old libc, debian/powerpc use the > new libc. > huh? what does this have to do with anything? you mount your debian to be partition from mklinux, untar the base file, copy the appropriate kernel/modules/fstab files, install quik (from macos) tell open firmware where to look, reboot and you are set. so mklinux uses the old libc and debian uses the new one. what's the problem? --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. |
Re: PowerPC Base Files
Hartmut Koptein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Direkt bootstrapping isn't possible (for hd). Untaring to harddisk and > starting > is not possible, because the /etc/fstab doesn't exist and also for e.p. quik > doesn't know from where it should boot. > > This is different to floppy or ramdisk, we know then where it is. > > Bootstrapping from another os then linux (for powerpc) is also possible, > but i don't know enough for this (yet). > huh? maybe i don't understand what you are trying to say, but untarring to hard disk and starting _is_ possible. i've done twice now, once on my desktop and once on somebody's laptop. let me try to explain what i did: 1) i used the linuxppc redhat based installer. followed the instructions, pretended i wanted to install linuxppc over the net, gave it my ip address, and then instead of following through with the installation i switched to the console (alt f2) 2) on my desktop it was simpler because it recognized the ethernet card. first i nfs mounted the disk where i had the base tar file. then i mounted the partition where i wanted to untar the base file and i used cpio (since there is no tar on the installer) to unpack the base file. also there is no mv, so i used cat to copy a previously created fstab file (from the nfs mounted partition). i also used cat to copy the vmlinux-2.1.1xx and cpio to unpack the modules file. i went back into macos, installed quik from there, told open firmware where to boot from, rebooted, and there i was using debian linux on a ppc. on the laptop it was a little bit trickier because the linuxppc didn't want to recognize my ethernet card (i tried both, the standard installer and the installer+tulip one). so what i copied the boot tar file onto the macos partition, the fstab file, and the kernel + modules. then i did exactly the same thing as before, with the excpetion that instead of mounting an nfs disk i mounted the local one. it took me a while to figure out how to mount an apple partition (mount -t hfs /dev/xxx /target). all this is using the old base file, but it shouldn't be any different using the newest one. hope this helps somebody, and if you have any questions don't hesitate to ask. btw, my desktop (trinculo.lbl.gov) is running only linux (purged any vestiges of macos), the laptop is dual boot (macos/linux using the openfirmare prompt). --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. |
linux-2.1.129
finally! after many trials and tribulations i have managed to compile a pristine kernel source (from ftp.kernel.org) using make-kpkg on a debian powerpc system. i had to make one small change to /usr/lib/kernel-package/rules as my system identifies itself as a "Power Macintosh" not a PowerMac. right now the console is totally screwed up, but i can telnet in. i'll take a look at the linuxppc configuration to see if i am doing something wrong. x works, using the fb server. it is very nice to see this: Connected to trinculo.lbl.gov. Escape character is '^]'. Debian GNU/Linux slink trinculo.lbl.gov trinculo login: romosan Password: Linux trinculo 2.1.129 #18 Thu Nov 19 09:22:29 PST 1998 ppc unknown Copyright (C) 1993-1998 Software in the Public Interest, and others Most of the programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are freely redistributable; the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the individual files in /usr/doc/*/copyright Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by applicable law. --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. |
kernel 2.1.132/2.2.0-pre1
encing pointer to incomplete type /usr/local/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:563: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/local/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h: In function `fsuser': /usr/local/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:571: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/local/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:572: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/local/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h: In function `capable': /usr/local/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:587: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/local/src/linux/include/linux/sched.h:592: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/local/src/linux/include/linux/mm.h: In function `expand_stack': In file included from checks.c:4: /usr/local/src/linux/include/linux/mm.h:339: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/local/src/linux/include/linux/mm.h:341: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/local/src/linux/include/asm/pgtable.h: In function `set_pgdir': In file included from checks.c:14: /usr/local/src/linux/include/asm/pgtable.h:547: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/local/src/linux/include/asm/pgtable.h:548: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/local/src/linux/include/asm/pgtable.h:550: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/local/src/linux/include/asm/uaccess.h: In function `verify_area': In file included from checks.c:15: /usr/local/src/linux/include/asm/uaccess.h:36: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/local/src/linux/include/asm/uaccess.h: In function `copy_from_user': /usr/local/src/linux/include/asm/uaccess.h:214: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/local/src/linux/include/asm/uaccess.h: In function `copy_to_user': /usr/local/src/linux/include/asm/uaccess.h:222: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/local/src/linux/include/asm/uaccess.h: In function `clear_user': /usr/local/src/linux/include/asm/uaccess.h:237: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/local/src/linux/include/asm/uaccess.h: In function `strncpy_from_user': /usr/local/src/linux/include/asm/uaccess.h:247: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type checks.c: In function `main': checks.c:51: sizeof applied to an incomplete type checks.c:53: sizeof applied to an incomplete type make[2]: *** [checks] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/linux/arch/ppc/kernel' make[1]: *** [checks] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/linux' make: *** [build] Error 2 --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. |
Re: Single-button mouse and X keyboard: solved
Blackie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I finally managed a mouse to behave well by kernel argument> > 'adb_buttons=0x67,0x6f' (keycodes of F11 for middle button and F12 > for right button emulation). It works in gpm as well as in XFBDev. > BTW, is it right that left and right Ctrl's, Options's have same > keycodes? the next question is: how do i get my three button mouse to work under X (and the console i guess)? my mouse right now behaves just like a single button mouse. a second question: how do i pass arguments to the kernel? i have only linux installed on a powerpc, and i use quik (i think) not bootX. i say i think i use quik because changing /etc/quik.conf doesn't seem to do anything. only by using nvsetenv do i get to boot a new kernel image and the like. i see there is a boot-command env variable which right now just says boot. do i pass extra kernel arguments through this? thanks. --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. |
iMac monitor configuration
Hi everybody, I'm having a bit of trouble configuring Woody on an old CRT iMac. When in OpenFirmware, text is displayed fine. But as soon as I boot up Woody, everything shifts about an inch to the left. I'm not running Xwindows--I know about xvidtune for that. What should I mess around with to fix my console? Thanks, Alex
Compiling 2.6.5 on iMac
Hi everybody, I'm trying to configure and install kernel-source-2.6.5 on a Summer 2001 iMac DV. I'm trying to optimize for speed, so I'm trying to get rid of any hardware drivers for hardware that isn't installed. This turned out to be trickier than I thought--I don't know exactly what hardware I have installed. It took me over an hour to compile a kernel with no usb support. I don't really want to experiment. That would take much too long. Does anyone know of a good source of information on iMac hardware? I'm willing to rtfm, but I don't know what m to fr. :-) Thanks, Alex
Re: Compiling 2.6.5 on iMac
On Jun 7, 2004, at 12:13 AM, Jens Schmalzing wrote: Hi, Alex Solla writes: I'm trying to configure and install kernel-source-2.6.5 on a Summer 2001 iMac DV. Any reason for not using the prebuilt kernel-image packages? Any reason for not using 2.6.6? None, really. (2.6.5 is the most recent kernel source in the sarge distribution) Bandwidth is cheap--I'll give that a try. I'm trying to optimize for speed, so I'm trying to get rid of any hardware drivers for hardware that isn't installed. I'd recommend that you use the kernel from kernel-image-2.6.6-powerpc. The kernel binary itself is very small, and the drivers that you need to get running can be loaded as modules. Perhaps you could help me set up usb support for my imac (or point me towards some documentation). I tried several usb settings (including leaving everything in), but when I boot from that kernel, my usb mouse and keyboard don't even light up. When I left everything on, the installer reported an error 1 about whiteheat.o, so I ditched that driver. Thanks! Alex
Re: Compiling 2.6.5 on iMac
On Jun 7, 2004, at 1:52 AM, Jens Schmalzing wrote: You need to set CONFIG_USB, CONFIG_USB_OHCI_HCD, and CONFIG_USB_HIDINPUT in your .config file. If you choose to build them as modules (which I recommend), this will result in usbcore.ko, ohci-hcd.ko and usbhid.ko for a 2.6.6 kernel. Load these and you should be fine. Or, install kernel-image-2.6.6-powerpc and hotplug. I'm getting gnarly kernel panics with 2.6.6 during boot up. I checked the system logs--apparently the kernel panics before logs can be written. And I can't see the four leftmost characters in my console, so I'll do my best at transcribing the error: (the ... represent characters I can't read since they're off screen) initrd-tools: 0.1.70 ..loadmodules: 1: cannot create /dev/null: Read-Only file system SCSI subsystem initialized ..da: max request size: 128KB ..da: 40011300 sectors (20485 MB) w/2048KB Cache, CHS=396993/16/63 UDMA(33) /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: [mac] p1 p2 p3 p4 p5 ...scrpts/etx3-add-journal.sh: 32 cannot create /dev/null: Read-Only file system (the last line repeats about seven times) mount: proc already mounted or proc busy ...sbin/init: 418: cannot create /dev/null: Read-Only file system (five times) ...vot_root: No such file or directory sbin/init: 424: cannot create /dev/null: Read-Only file system sbin/init: 423 cannot open dev/console: no such file Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init! Little help? Thanks Alex
Re: Compiling 2.6.5 on iMac
On Jun 7, 2004, at 3:49 AM, Jens Schmalzing wrote: Hi, Alex Solla writes: I'm getting gnarly kernel panics with 2.6.6 during boot up. Self-compiled or Debian package? It's a pre-compiled Debian package (kernel-image-2.6.6-powerpc) ..loadmodules: 1: cannot create /dev/null: Read-Only file system SCSI subsystem initialized ..da: max request size: 128KB ..da: 40011300 sectors (20485 MB) w/2048KB Cache, CHS=396993/16/63 UDMA(33) /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: [mac] p1 p2 p3 p4 p5 ...scrpts/etx3-add-journal.sh: 32 cannot create /dev/null: Read-Only file system (the last line repeats about seven times) mount: proc already mounted or proc busy ...sbin/init: 418: cannot create /dev/null: Read-Only file system (five times) ...vot_root: No such file or directory sbin/init: 424: cannot create /dev/null: Read-Only file system sbin/init: 423 cannot open dev/console: no such file Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init! Looks like you are trying to use an initrd kernel built without CONFIG_DEVFS. Yes, the installer told me to check my bootloader documentation before trying to boot into the new kernel because it was initrd. I did that, and added the line initrd=/initrd.img to the relevant yaboot.conf entry. Did I forget to do something? Thanks, Alex Regards, Jens. -- J'qbpbe, le m'en fquz pe j'qbpbe! Le veux aimeb et mqubib panz je pézqbpbe je djuz tqtaj!
Re: Compiling 2.6.5 on iMac
On Jun 7, 2004, at 2:33 PM, Jens Schmalzing wrote: Hi, Alex Solla writes: Yes, the installer told me to check my bootloader documentation before trying to boot into the new kernel because it was initrd. I did that, and added the line initrd=/initrd.img to the relevant yaboot.conf entry. Did I forget to do something? Did you actually create the ramdisk? You need to put a line do_initrd=yes into /etc/kernel-img.conf to have it automatically done on upgrade, or run mkinitrd by hand. Aha! I'll thank you now, since I'm sure this will work now. :) Alex
Blank Console
Hi everybody, I'm having some trouble with my console. When I boot up, I get a grey screen with some OpenFirmware stuff on it instead of the usual kernel loading stuff. Eventually, I reach kdm. That works fine. But if I try to quit kdm to start a console session, I end up either with either a black or, lets say, very colorful, screen. What should I look into to fix this? Thanks much, Alex
Strange TCP trouble (I think)
Hi everybody, I just installed Sarge on my trusty old iMac G3 500Mhz (slot-loading). I had a bit of trouble installing packages at the end -- the installer didn't install a bunch of things I asked for because of broken dependencies. No big deal, I just went ahead and installed things (using apt-get and ftp.us.debian.org) myself. However, when I try to browse the web (or use anything else that relies on DNS), DNS fails to resolve and I get timeout errors. I can hit reload till the cows come home, and I'll get the same error. Strangely enough, though, if I ping the site first, my browser resolves the dns immediately and the site loads almost instantly. However, within a few minutes, I have to ping the site again or I get more timeout errors. This makes me think that I may have forgotten to install a relevant package, since the trouble seems to becaused by the way some programs (konqueror, gaim, etc) try to access dns information as opposed to others (ping, traceroute) that do work. But any suggestions would be appreciated. I realize this might be a bit off-topic on this list, but the nature of the problem makes searching for a solution on the web difficult. Thanks! Alex
Re: Apple's Developer Transition Kit
IBM, hopefully. Otherwise we will be left to hacking XBoxes and Playstations. :(
On 6/8/05, Gabriel Paubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 11:53:32AM +0200, Colin Leroy wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > http://developer.apple.com/transitionkit.html
> >
> > Looks like hackers can get an x86 Apple machine right now, if they fork
> > $999.
> >
> > I guess Ben's employer may not really want to provide that to him :-/
> > Maybe we users can re-do a distributed donation to Benh, if he's
> > interested in making Linux work on this hybrid stuff?
> >
> > (Ben: are you interested in this?)
>
> A better question is: who is going to provide affordable PPC
> (or whatever architecture actually) for those of us who refuse
> the x86{,-64} monoculture?
>
> Monoculture has always been bad and always been bad and always
> will be.
>
> Gabriel
>
>
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Re: Sarge
Well, I have been using it for a couple of years now, why change now it's stable? :) Thanks to all developers involved, good work indeed. On 6/7/05, Guillaume Florey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi everybody, > Just wanted to say that sarge is out ! And I also like to know who is going to > use it (inclusive me ;-) > > Best Regards > > Guillaume > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: Apple's Developer Transition Kit
Hi Johannes, > > I am totally confused on this, is the new mac gonna have an x86 chip > > in it, or is intel going to make a newly designed chip? > > They'll use x86 chips. Steve Jobs was talking about the future Intel roadmap. Probably you mean that they will use chips within the x86 family, even if the chips themselves are new. I guess Apple will not go back to 32 bits now, so I would bet for the x86_64 architecture (or whatever the Intel knock-off is called). > > And for people who also run the mac os (like me) by a universal > > binary, is that code that is not dependent on the processor, but on > > the os? So like it would run on either a ppc mac or the new one, as > > long as they have the mac os? > > No. Or maybe a universal binary is like the 'FAT' binaries in that it > contains code for both architectures. Not sure. Yes, a "universal" binary contains code for both architectures, like "fat" (not "FAT") binaries in the 68k->ppc era. It's not processor-independent code, since that would mean either source code or bytecode. In fact, for Java programs it would be bytecode, which is platform-independent; for the rest it means two binaries in one. > > And is this basically going to be like when mac switched from the > > 68k to the PowerPC Chip, where the PPC chip ran stuff from 68k, > > I don't think they'll add a ppc emulator, so probably no. I think Jobs has said that they will use a ppc emulator, to run "legacy code" (in this case PPC). Apple has licensed something called "QuickTransit" for fast emulation. Alex.
Re: g4 titanium powerbook install questions
Hi Alfredo, On 6/16/05, Alfredo Pironti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > it seems that there is little for ppc, mostly for intel. > If you are talking about other distributions (Fedora, Mandrake, Suse, > Slackware), I agree. Last Fedora edition (core 4) is available for PPC as well. Mandriva has been available for some time, although a bit outdated: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppc.php3 Don't know about the others mentioned, but you have still more choices: Ubuntu (debian-based), Gentoo, and soon Red hat; in various states of maturity. Debian is probably the most mature option, but not the only one. Alex.
Re: Gnome vs. KDE with ALSA
Hi Mike, On 6/19/05, Mike S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please correct me if I am wrong, but in my searching I have concluded > that sound will not work in anything in gnome, unless you have the > proper device set in Desktop > Preferences > Multimedia Systems > Selector, which I gather sets the audio mode for all things inside gnome > that use gstreamer (Which is all, I think). As I said before ESD is the > only output that I can get to work. Still looking, but what I have read > so far says that ESD causes a hell of a processor load, though I have > not noticed anything, but I don't tinker with commands that high level, > I have also read that esd is pretty good in that it can take multiple > programs and send all things to the card, which is what I want, because > I ran kde and could only have one application use sound at a time. KDE runs artsd, also a sound daemon, which mixes sound on the fly. And it consumes a lot of processor cycles too. It's annoying. > Another thing I am trying to find is a way to get esd to share the sound > card. I read a while back that it was possible for you to set the > daemon so that it would "share" the given audio device, and I am > thinking that that would (maybe) help in things like mol and such that > need OSS or alsa. Search for dmix. Using it, you can set up a very simple ALSA configuration (just a file .asoundrc on your home directory) which allows for multiple sound outputs. Also, it is quite inexpensive in terms of CPU. Cheers, Alex.
Can't Boot floppy
I'm trying to install Debian on a PowerMac 7300/200. I tried booting the Woody boot-floppy-hfs.img which I wrote in Linux, Mac OS, and Windows. It shows me the linux logo then tux with a big red X on it. I tried using BootX, I did it, managed to repartition, then the system froze, now I don't have any OS on it. OpenFirmware won't start either for some reason, actually it won't display, I think it starts though (not using a Mac Monitor). I also tried booting the Sarge boot.img floppy, the Mac just spits it out. Please help me. Thank you. Alexandru Iordanescu
Re: Porting ppc Linux to Xbox 360?
On 7/1/05, Lee Braiden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 01 Jul 2005 10:56, Paul TT wrote: > > right. and if new xbox will be like it seems it will, be (good > > hardware-cheap $), and linux will run on it, then that does in addition > > please the consumer :- > > Only in the short term. It never benefits society to deal with people who > disrespect the fundamental rules of that society. Well, not if said rules are unfair. Jesus Christ, Gandhi or Martin Luther King are respected precisely because they disregarded fundamental rules of their societies. More to our point, Richard Stallman goes against a fundamental principle of our society: that money is sacred and must be protected. He argues that people must be free to run whatever software they choose on their machines. I agree with him, and if Microsoft loses a few dollars in the process due to their weird business model, then they should improve their business model. Alex.
Re: Repositories
See
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-basico.en.html
See also sources.list(5) in the manual; i.e. type at the console:
$ man sources.list
For Sarge, it's enough to include the following:
--- quote ---
deb ftp://ftp.XX.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free
deb ftp://ftp.XX.debian.org/debian-non-US/ stable/non-US main non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main non-free
--- end quote ---
where 'XX' is your country code ('es', 'at', 'us'...). If you want to
include testing then add those same lines with 'testing' instead of
'stable'.
Right now all repositories carry all architectures, I think; no need
to use PPC-specific ones.
On 7/10/05, Dean Hamstead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> /etc/apt/sources.list
>
> Dean
Re: acroread+qemu
On 7/30/05, Wojciech Owczarek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Give me one good reason for using acrobat reader and not Xpdf. Forms? Documents that render incorrectly / do not render? Searches? Alex.
Problems with 2.6.x
I have been having lots of difficulty trying to move from benh-2.4.23 to 2.6 I have tried compiling from the kernel.org source as well as with the benh 2.5-2.6 source. In all cases, the kernel will compile using the make-kpkg command, installation works normally as well. However on boot the following screen is displayed Welcome to Linux, kernel 2..6.1-ben1 Linked at : 0c000 frame buffer at : 0x9c008000 (phys), 0xd0008000 (log) klimit 0xc03c0b0c MSR 0x3030 hido 0xB410c0bc pmac_init(): exit id mach() done MMU: enter MMU:hw init hash enter hash:find piece hash:patch hash:done MMUmapin MMU:setio MMU:exit xmon uses modem port setup_arch:enter setup_arch bootmem arch: exit openpic:enter openpic:timer openpic:external openpic: exit No other actions occur. After several minutes the machine will automatically reboot. I have tried everything I can think off with no success. Does any one have any ideas? Machine: Power Mac g4 windtunnel rev 2. 1.2 Ghz DP (SMP disabled in config) If needed I can upload my kernel compile config. I used the standard settings with the exception of enabling bluetooth. (required for my work) Help! Alex smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
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I am using a Radeon 9000 card. Worked perfectly under 2.4.23 (although little success with X) booting the Vm linux from yaboot with the novideo option had no effect. "ultra2:11, /vmlinux novideo" As well, the video=openfb doesnt work. I have tried the suggestions quoted on http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/post-halloween-2.5.txt> with no success. I haven't explicitly added CONFIG_FB_CONSOLE but CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE was set. The new Radeon drivers were set to load as a module, and the character radeon drivers were also set in the config. Still no success. Alex On 19-Jan-04, at 7:17 PM, andi wrote: If you have an nvidia card, try using the openfirmware framebuffer driver instread of the nvidia driver. At least for me (G4 Cube + Geforce 2MX) the driver is broken. I see the same screen as you and nothing happens. At least with openfirmware framebuffer driver it works. andi I have been having lots of difficulty trying to move from benh-2.4.23 to 2.6 I have tried compiling from the kernel.org source as well as with the benh 2.5-2.6 source. In all cases, the kernel will compile using the make-kpkg command, installation works normally as well. However on boot the following screen is displayed smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Major pre-launch! Extremely URGENT!
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Updated Debian Ports installation images 2021-09-23
I translated what Sante said the error message was via Google Translate: The error is this: "grub-install: error: the selected partition is not a PReP partition" I hope all is well, Adrian. Aside from trying to get X working on Linux in general (which I’ve failed to do so with my iMac G3 in both VoidPPC and Debian Ports Sid with a proper XOrg configuration (with monitor Modelines and everything. It sees the internal display, it just can’t use any configurations from the display no matter what I try.) Sent from my iPad
Re: Updated Debian Ports installation images 2021-09-23
On 10/5/2021 9:16:40 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hi Marc! On 10/5/21 18:10, Marc Zyngier wrote: > Many thanks for keeping Debian alive on these old architectures. You're welcome. > I just dusted off my XServe-G5 (ppc64) and gave this snapshot a go. > > The very good news is that it boots all the way to the installer. > The less good news is that it stops pretty quickly as none of the > required drivers are actually in the install media. > > To be able to install Debian, you would at least need: > CONFIG_SATA_SVW (sata) > CONFIG_TIGON3 (Ethernet) Alex Perez: While you're at it, if you could also add SATA_SIL24 to the default build, this is, by far, the most common legacy SATA PCI controller that's used in legacy PCI-based PowerPC Macs.
