Re: RFS: quickrdp/1.1.6-1 or how to proceed

2012-04-04 Thread cento
Hi to all,

Il giorno mer, 04/04/2012 alle 08.23 +0200, Tobias Eliasson ha scritto:
> Dear mentors,
[..]
> To access further information about this package, please visit the
> following URL:
>  http://mentors.debian.net/package/quickrd

I try to "dget -x " his *.dsc, after import the right public key (ID
AB0B0354), but it show me always the gpgkey error say is not possible to
verify the sign. What is wrong?
thanks


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Re: RFS: quickrdp/1.1.6-1 or how to proceed

2012-04-04 Thread Tobias Eliasson
2012/4/4 cento :
> I try to "dget -x " his *.dsc, after import the right public key (ID
> AB0B0354), but it show me always the gpgkey error say is not possible to
> verify the sign. What is wrong?

My public key is not signed by any trustee and uploaded.
I guess that's why you get that error.


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Re: RFS: quickrdp/1.1.6-1 or how to proceed

2012-04-04 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Hi,

On 04/04/2012 10:12 AM, cento wrote:
> I try to "dget -x " his *.dsc, after import the right public key (ID
> AB0B0354), but it show me always the gpgkey error say is not possible to
> verify the sign. What is wrong?

dget uses dscverify to check the signature.  dscverify only uses the
debian-keyring.gpg and debian-maintainers.gpg keyrings located in
/usr/share/keyrings by default, so it will not see any keys you imported
unless you tell it to use a different keyring (eg. the one in your
~/.gnupg).

Regards,
Ansgar


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Re: RFS: quickrdp/1.1.6-1 or how to proceed

2012-04-04 Thread gregor herrmann
On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 11:14:28 +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:

> dget uses dscverify to check the signature.  dscverify only uses the
> debian-keyring.gpg and debian-maintainers.gpg keyrings located in
> /usr/share/keyrings by default, so it will not see any keys you imported
> unless you tell it to use a different keyring (eg. the one in your
> ~/.gnupg).

... e.g. by putting
DSCVERIFY_KEYRINGS=/home//.gnupg/pubring.gpg
into ~/.devscripts

>From dscverify(1), note the _extra_:

  DSCVERIFY_KEYRINGS
This  is  a colon-separated list of extra keyrings to use in
addition to any specified on the command line.

Cheers,
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Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-04 Thread Vladimir Stavrinov

To advantage of this utility points it's name: "READABLE password
generator". If You can read (i.e. to pronounce), then it is easy for
remembering. But "readable" doesn't means "weak" - it is strong enough
as long as dictionary is available for consulting to exclude words from
out of there.

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Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-04 Thread Bartosz Feński
W dniu 04.04.2012 12:17, Vladimir Stavrinov pisze:
> To advantage of this utility points it's name: "READABLE password
> generator". If You can read (i.e. to pronounce), then it is easy for
> remembering. But "readable" doesn't means "weak" - it is strong enough
> as long as dictionary is available for consulting to exclude words from
> out of there.
>
So basically this is another tool like the apg?
http://packages.debian.org/sid/apg

regards
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Re: Bug#667092: RFS: tcng/10b-4 [RC, QA]

2012-04-04 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 01:21:55AM +0200, Arno Töll wrote:
> On 04.04.2012 01:19, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > Lintian now complains: W: tcng source: changelog-should-mention-qa 
> > but this seems wrong -- it's this very upload that is orphaning the
> > package; lintian has no real way to know that, though.
> 
> Just add "* QA Upload" to the changelog entry to make Lintian shut up.

Should I be rather Lintian correct, or what-seems-to-be-right correct?
This one seems to be on the edge, as the last maintainer upload.
Still, a changelog line doesn't really break things any way.

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Re: Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-04 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Vladimir Stavrinov  writes:
> To advantage of this utility points it's name: "READABLE password
> generator". If You can read (i.e. to pronounce), then it is easy for
> remembering. But "readable" doesn't means "weak" - it is strong enough
> as long as dictionary is available for consulting to exclude words from
> out of there.

I think rpg is very insecure since all local users of the system can see
the passwords that you generate. All they need to do is to look for the
"grep" commands that appear in the process list.

When I run

$ ./rpg

  efi4vudamna
  andumfepibit
  azukvemipa
  Ardibute
  pazetmivudub


I can clearly see the passwords using a very simple program:

lindi2:~$ wget -q http://iki.fi/lindi/watchps.c
lindi2:~$ gcc -O2 -Wall -o watchps watchps.c
lindi2:~$ echo /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu | ./watchps
helper got 2150, waiting for 2151
woke up
...
cmdline: "grep -wEqi ^andumfepibit$ /usr/share/dict/words "
...
cmdline: "grep -wEqi ^azukvemipa$ /usr/share/dict/words "
...


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Re: RFS: python-gnupg

2012-04-04 Thread Amaya
Hi, Elena and all

Elena ``of Valhalla'' wrote:
> On 2012-03-27 at 18:39:11 +0400, Dmitry Shachnev wrote:
> > Can I please upload the updated version to mentors.d.n?
> 
> I don't think I will be able to do it before thursday, but 
> I'll upload it as soon as I can.

Dimitry told me the package was ready and I'm about to look into
sponsoring it.

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Re: RFS: quickrdp/1.1.6-1 or how to proceed

2012-04-04 Thread cento
Il giorno mer, 04/04/2012 alle 11.36 +0200, gregor herrmann ha scritto:
> On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 11:14:28 +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
> 
> > dget uses dscverify to check the signature.  dscverify only uses the
> > debian-keyring.gpg and debian-maintainers.gpg keyrings located in
> > /usr/share/keyrings by default, so it will not see any keys you imported
> > unless you tell it to use a different keyring (eg. the one in your
> > ~/.gnupg).
> 
> ... e.g. by putting
> DSCVERIFY_KEYRINGS=/home//.gnupg/pubring.gpg
> into ~/.devscripts
> 

great, it works. thanks


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Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-04 Thread Vladimir Stavrinov
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 12:22:44PM +0200, Bartosz Feński wrote:

> So basically this is another tool like the apg?
> http://packages.debian.org/sid/apg

I've used apg few years ago, but was not satisfied with it. That is
exactly why I have started to write my own alternative. The main point
was pronounceability.

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Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-04 Thread Vladimir Stavrinov
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 01:39:07PM +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:

> I think rpg is very insecure since all local users of the system can see
> the passwords that you generate. All they need to do is to look for the
> "grep" commands that appear in the process list.

First of all in most cases it is using on workstation where are no other
live users then You (or hacker breached into Your system) . Second, it
is used sporadically and rarely. To catch those passwords You need
continuously watching and analyze process list for a long time. It is
less likely for such scenario to be used. Some chance for using this
hole is on the servers where passwords are generated automatically and
very often.

Nevertheless, to keep on strict security basics, I agree - it should be
fixed in some way.

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Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-04 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
On 04/04/2012 01:09 PM, Vladimir Stavrinov wrote:
> I've used apg few years ago, but was not satisfied with it. That is
> exactly why I have started to write my own alternative. The main point
> was pronounceability.

We also have pwgen which "generates pronounceable passwords" according
to its man page.

Regards,
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Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-04 Thread Vladimir Stavrinov
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 01:41:43PM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:

> We also have pwgen which "generates pronounceable passwords" according
> to its man page.

As You can see, it is first utility mentioned here in this thread before apg, 
and
again, I have used it too before apg. But it generates even less
pronounceable passwords then apg does.
 

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Re: Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-04 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Vladimir Stavrinov  writes:
> First of all in most cases it is using on workstation where are no other
> live users then You (or hacker breached into Your system) . Second, it
> is used sporadically and rarely. To catch those passwords You need
> continuously watching and analyze process list for a long time. It is
> less likely for such scenario to be used. Some chance for using this
> hole is on the servers where passwords are generated automatically and
> very often.

Or a shared university shell server where you first advertise this tool
to all students and members of the staff and then record all the
passwords.


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Bug#666221: RFS: bwctl/1.3-1 [ITP] -- bandwidth test controller

2012-04-04 Thread Raoul Borenius
Hi Ansgar,

On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 09:22:17AM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> [ I have no intention to sponsor this package. ]

No problem, thanks for commenting on the packaging!

> Raoul Borenius  writes:
> > * License : custom license which is not considered free (see
> > 
> > http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2012/02/msg4.html)
> > but upstream is apparently changing to apache license in
> > upcoming release of bwctl
> 
> Then it should not go to main. See [1] how to change this in the source
> package.

Yes, thanks. I'm going to change that.

> >  bwctl-client - bandwidth test controller (client)
> >  bwctl-doc  - documentation for bandwidth test controller
> >  bwctl-server - bandwidth test controller (server)
> >  i2util-tools - internet2 utilities
> >  libbwlib-dev - bandwidth test controller (development)
> >  libi2util-dev - internet2 utility library (development)
> >  libthrulay-dev - network capacity tester (development)
> >  libthrulay0 - network capacity tester (runtime)
> >  thrulay-client - network capacity tester (client)
> >  thrulay-server - network capacity tester (server)
> 
> Is it really necessary to split this in so many packages?

I'm not hundret percent sure but I think it should be split up.
Upstream packages some utilities with bwctl which are not needed
in all use cases (thrulay and i2util-tools). The alternative would be
to not package them at all from the bwctl source. But there is no
upstream source for these utilities other than in bwctl so I think
it's best to create the packages for them as well.

Upstream does the same with rpm packages that they supply, see
http://software.internet2.edu/rpms/x86_64/RPMS.main/I2util-1.1-1.x86_64.rpm
http://software.internet2.edu/rpms/x86_64/RPMS.main/bwctl-client-1.3-5.el5.x86_64.rpm
http://software.internet2.edu/rpms/x86_64/RPMS.main/bwctl-server-1.3-5.el5.x86_64.rpm

 Regards,

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Bug#667506: RFS: install-debian/2.1.3 [NEW] -- command line installs Debian system non-interactively

2012-04-04 Thread Vladimir Stavrinov
Package: sponsorship-requests
Severity: wishlist

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 Dear mentors,

  I am looking for a sponsor for my package "install-debian"

 * Package name: install-debian
   Version : 2.1.3
   Upstream Author : Vladimir Stavrinov 
 * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/install-debian/
 * License : GPL
   Section : admin

  It builds those binary packages:

install-debian - This command line utility installs Debian system 
non-interactivel

  To access further information about this package, please visit the following 
URL:

  http://mentors.debian.net/package/install-debian


  Alternatively, one can download the package with dget using this command:

dget -x 
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/i/install-debian/install-debian_2.1.3.dsc

  More information about hello can be obtained from 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/install-debian/

  Changes since the last upload:

install-debian (2.1.3) unstable; urgency=low

  * Added FS_TYPE - file system type, default ext4 (was ext3)
  * Added caveats.

 -- Vladimir Stavrinov   Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:25:14 +0400

  Regards,
   Vladimir Stavrinov

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Bug#667511: RFS: updeb/1.0.3 [NEW] -- Non-interactive upgrade Debian system

2012-04-04 Thread Vladimir Stavrinov
Package: sponsorship-requests
Severity: wishlist

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  Dear mentors,

  I am looking for a sponsor for my package "updeb"

 * Package name: updeb
   Version : 1.0.3
   Upstream Author : Vladimir Stavrinov 
 * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/updeb/
 * License : GPL
   Section : admin

  It builds those binary packages:

updeb - Non-interactive upgrade Debian system

  To access further information about this package, please visit the following 
URL:

  http://mentors.debian.net/package/updeb


  Alternatively, one can download the package with dget using this command:

dget -x http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/u/updeb/updeb_1.0.3.dsc

  More information about hello can be obtained from 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/updeb/

  Changes since the last upload:

updeb (1.0.3) unstable; urgency=low

  * Rifine config man pages.
  * Bug fix: create snapshot before doing anything else.

 -- Vladimir Stavrinov   Fri, 23 Dec 2011 14:18:39 +0400

  Regards,
   Vladimir Stavrinov

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alternate make file for dh tiny rules

2012-04-04 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
Greetings,

I am packaging up milter-regex. The upstream source has three makefiles:

Makefile
Makefile.linux
Makefile.solaris

The file, "Makefile", is for building in a BSD environment. If I specify

make -f Makefile.linux

things build nicely. Is there an easy way to tell "dh" that it should
use Makefile.linux instead of Makefile?

Or do I need to perform override_dh_* for all the targets that need to be used?

Thanks for the help!

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Bug#667506: RFS: install-debian/2.1.3 [NEW] -- command line installs Debian system non-interactively

2012-04-04 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
tag 667506 + wontfix
thanks

On 04/04/2012 04:16 PM, Vladimir Stavrinov wrote:
> install-debian - This command line utility installs Debian system 
> non-interactivel

>From a quick look it looks like it configures everything in a very
specific way (including installing init scripts for non-Debian
applications, configuring mutt, setting locales to hardcoded values,
...).  I do not think it is suitable for Debian.

Regards,
Ansgar



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Processed: Re: Bug#667506: RFS: install-debian/2.1.3 [NEW] -- command line installs Debian system non-interactively

2012-04-04 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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> tag 667506 + wontfix
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line installs Debian system non-interactively
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> thanks
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Bug#667511: RFS: updeb/1.0.3 [NEW] -- Non-interactive upgrade Debian system

2012-04-04 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
On 04/04/2012 04:06 PM, Vladimir Stavrinov wrote:
> updeb - Non-interactive upgrade Debian system

I do not believe running apt-get dist-upgrade non-interactive is a good
idea... Also there is already unattended-upgrades in the archive if you
want to automatically install security updates.

Ansgar



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Re: alternate make file for dh tiny rules

2012-04-04 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Matt Zagrabelny  wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I am packaging up milter-regex. The upstream source has three makefiles:
>
> Makefile
> Makefile.linux
> Makefile.solaris
>
> The file, "Makefile", is for building in a BSD environment. If I specify
>
> make -f Makefile.linux

Hmmm.

I tried the following:

---{debian/rules}---
#!/usr/bin/make -f

export MAKE:= make -f Makefile.linux

%:
dh $@
---{debian/rules}---

And get the following error:

dh build
   dh_testdir
   dh_auto_configure
   dh_auto_build
Can't exec "make -f Makefile.linux": No such file or directory at
/usr/share/perl5/Debian/Debhelper/Dh_Lib.pm line 215.
dh_auto_build: make -f Makefile.linux -j1 failed to to execute: No
such file or directory
make: *** [build] Error 2


Perhaps I don't understand the MAKE environment variable.

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Re: Bug#667092: RFS: tcng/10b-4 [RC, QA]

2012-04-04 Thread David Prévot
Le 04/04/2012 06:38, Adam Borowski a écrit :

> Should I be rather Lintian correct, or what-seems-to-be-right correct?

Reading the long description usually helps:

> $ lintian-info --tags changelog-should-mention-qa
> W: changelog-should-mention-qa
> N:
> N:   If this upload is to orphan this package, please mention this fact on
> N:   the first line of the changelog. If this is a QA upload, please
> N:   mention "QA (group) upload" there.

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Bug#667506: RFS: install-debian/2.1.3 [NEW] -- command line installs Debian system non-interactively

2012-04-04 Thread Vladimir Stavrinov
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 05:17:06PM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:

> >From a quick look it looks like it configures everything in a very
  ^^
Please, take a time to learn more. Try to use it, before make conclusion.
Here is bootable iso image, including this script:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/install-debian/files/debian-rescue_amd64.iso/download

> specific way (including installing init scripts for non-Debian

It is only case for oracle and it does not mess and impact nothing. It may
be removed without implications.

> applications, configuring mutt, setting locales to hardcoded values,

It is very configurable with configuration file. Any "hardcoded values" may be
changed with custom configuration as it is shell variable. More over, the
configuration facilities let You install arbitrary files, eventually
whole directory tree.

> ...).  I do not think it is suitable for Debian.

Great! Debian installer is not "suitable for Debian"!

I am using this script for years. It have built a lot (tens) of
production Debian servers in a few minutes. All of of them running
custom web, cdn, banking and stock exchange applications until now
without any problems. And it is only shell script, that You can use
anywhere easy.


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Re: Bug#667092: RFS: tcng/10b-4 [RC, QA]

2012-04-04 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 12:55:32PM -0400, David Prévot wrote:
> Le 04/04/2012 06:38, Adam Borowski a écrit :
> 
> > Should I be rather Lintian correct, or what-seems-to-be-right correct?
> 
> Reading the long description usually helps:
> 
> > $ lintian-info --tags changelog-should-mention-qa
> > W: changelog-should-mention-qa
> > N:
> > N:   If this upload is to orphan this package, please mention this fact on
> > N:   the first line of the changelog. If this is a QA upload, please
> > N:   mention "QA (group) upload" there.

Beh, so the order of changelog lines matters?  I've read this description
but never suspected this is actually the case.

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Bug#667511: RFS: updeb/1.0.3 [NEW] -- Non-interactive upgrade Debian system

2012-04-04 Thread Vladimir Stavrinov
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 05:42:46PM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:

> I do not believe running apt-get dist-upgrade non-interactive is a good

"not good idea ..." Again, it is running every day on lot of production
servers for a ten years. Some time, I do rollback, because it preserve
old packages. More over, it allow You do not use dist-upgrade, but
upgrade or safe-upgrade with aptitude. Everything is configurable.

> idea... Also there is already unattended-upgrades in the archive if you
> want to automatically install security updates.

I know this package for a long time, but is not make the work the updeb
does. Look at report it produce.


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Bug#667506: RFS: install-debian/2.1.3 [NEW] -- command line installs Debian system non-interactively

2012-04-04 Thread Didier Raboud
Vladimir; 

Le mercredi, 4 avril 2012 20.38:45, Vladimir Stavrinov a écrit :
> 
> > ...).  I do not think it is suitable for Debian.
> 
> Great! Debian installer is not "suitable for Debian"!

Debian already has one component named the Debian Installer [0,1], which is 
the official way to install Debian hosts.

[0] http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
[1] http://packages.qa.debian.org/d/debian-installer.html

I think having both the official Debian Installer `debian-installer` package 
and 
a completely new package (not suitable for generic installations) being named 
`install-debian` confusing (to say the least).

So, without even taking a look at your `install-debian` package, I would 
certainly not upload it "as is" (hence agreeing with Ansgar' +wontfix tag), 
purely for name clashing reasons. (Note that I'm not judging the quality of 
your software, only its naming).

Cheers,
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Bug#667506: RFS: install-debian/2.1.3 [NEW] -- command line installs Debian system non-interactively

2012-04-04 Thread Vladimir Stavrinov
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 09:11:03PM +0200, Didier Raboud wrote:

> Debian already has one component named the Debian Installer [0,1], which is 

As usual, I was not satisfied with it and hence wrote my own installer

> a completely new package (not suitable for generic installations) being named 

I don't agree. There are no something specific.

> purely for name clashing reasons. (Note that I'm not judging the quality of 
> your software, only its naming).

I think it is hard to confuse  "debian-installer" with "install-debian"
as well as "up" and "down". But if it is only reason preventing upload, I
agree to rename it. Please, give me Your suggestions.


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Bug#667506: RFS: install-debian/2.1.3 [NEW] -- command line installs Debian system non-interactively

2012-04-04 Thread Didier Raboud
Le mercredi, 4 avril 2012 21.24:08, Vladimir Stavrinov a écrit :
> On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 09:11:03PM +0200, Didier Raboud wrote:
> > Debian already has one component named the Debian Installer [0,1], which
> > is
> 
> As usual, I was not satisfied with it and hence wrote my own installer

Have you reported your insatisfaction (think: bugreports)?

By the way, from the description on install-debian's homepage:

> It should be started from within Live CD, Network Boot or from any bootable
> media, other then Your system disk.

That's how debian-installer currently works

> It fully supports software RAID.

… as does d-i.

> You can change defaults and most settings with command line options and
> configuration variables.

Do you know that you can preseed the Debian Installer to do exactly that?

> All settings if not defined in config file or as command line options, will b
> set to it's defaults either as constant values or evaluated from running
> system.

d-i preseed can set the priority of questions, hence getting sane defaults for 
most things.
 
> By default it chooses largest disk for installation.

d-i can do that too.

> If there are more then one such disk of the same size, it makes RAID array.

d-i can do that too.

> Partitioning scheme supports separate partition for /boot, and separate
> logical volumes for root filesystem, /usr, /var, /tmp and /home. Also there
> are option to install system into single pre-mount point. In this case
> partitioning and mounting every part leave on Your own.

d-i can do that too.
 
> This script installs only bit more packages then base system includes. The
> main purpose is to get bootable system. After booting new system You can
> install everything what You want.

That's what d-i does too.

So, what does install-debian better than what the debian-installer does? Or 
what does it that debian-installer doesn't?

> > purely for name clashing reasons. (Note that I'm not judging the quality
> > of your software, only its naming).
> 
> I think it is hard to confuse  "debian-installer" with "install-debian"
> as well as "up" and "down". But if it is only reason preventing upload, I
> agree to rename it. Please, give me Your suggestions.

Given the above, try d-i-d-nih-kit-2.0-ng .

Cheers,

OdyX

P.S. That was my last mail to this bugreport: I won't sponsor install-debian 
so I'm not the one to convince.


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Re: alternate make file for dh tiny rules

2012-04-04 Thread Gergely Nagy
Matt Zagrabelny  writes:

> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Matt Zagrabelny  wrote:
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I am packaging up milter-regex. The upstream source has three makefiles:
>>
>> Makefile
>> Makefile.linux
>> Makefile.solaris
>>
>> The file, "Makefile", is for building in a BSD environment. If I specify
>>
>> make -f Makefile.linux
>
> Hmmm.
>
> I tried the following:

I suggest reading man dh, in particular, it's EXAMPLES section, where
this very question has already been answered.

> Perhaps I don't understand the MAKE environment variable.

I'm afraid you don't. The info documentation of make talks about this
variable in section "5.7.1 How the `MAKE' Variable Works".

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Re: Bug#667506: RFS: install-debian/2.1.3 [NEW] -- command line installs Debian system non-interactively

2012-04-04 Thread Gergely Nagy
Vladimir Stavrinov  writes:

> On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 09:11:03PM +0200, Didier Raboud wrote:
>
>> Debian already has one component named the Debian Installer [0,1], which is 
>
> As usual, I was not satisfied with it and hence wrote my own installer

Out of curiosity, what were your problems with d-i, that couldn't have
been fixed via patches to d-i, that could only be solved by writing a
new installer?

(Note: I have not looked at your package.)

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Bug#667506: RFS: install-debian/2.1.3 [NEW] -- command line installs Debian system non-interactively

2012-04-04 Thread Vladimir Stavrinov
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 10:04:03PM +0200, Didier Raboud wrote:

> Have you reported your insatisfaction (think: bugreports)?

No. It has no sense, because of total insatisfaction.

> That's how debian-installer currently works

It is custom solution. By default it is dedicated CD.

> > It fully supports software RAID.
> 
> … as does d-i.

This was main point, where I start to write my own installer. d-i has
very restricted solutions. For a years every time I tried to make
software raid with d-i, I was compelled to do this manually.

> > You can change defaults and most settings with command line options and
> > configuration variables.
> 
> Do you know that you can preseed the Debian Installer to do exactly that?

Yes, I know. But again, preseed is restricted complex and not convenient.

> d-i preseed can set the priority of questions, hence getting sane defaults 
> for 
> most things.

This is something else. There are no questions at all.

> > By default it chooses largest disk for installation.
> 
> d-i can do that too.

It can, but my script do by default. In any way it is no matter.

> > If there are more then one such disk of the same size, it makes RAID array.
> 
> d-i can do that too.

Again, this is by default.

...

> d-i can do that too.

...

So there are too much this phrases, here is common answer.

> So, what does install-debian better than what the debian-installer does? Or 
> what does it that debian-installer doesn't?

d-i is menu-driven big system with huge number of components. It take a
lot of time to do simple and routine things by Your hands (by default
at least). install-debian is single shell script with command-line
interface only. You can simply run it without parameters and You've got
bootable system after 5 minutes with preferable defaults settings.

> > agree to rename it. Please, give me Your suggestions.
> 
> Given the above, try d-i-d-nih-kit-2.0-ng .

Don't understand. It may be joke.

> P.S. That was my last mail to this bugreport: I won't sponsor install-debian 
> so I'm not the one to convince.

You and me may write anything here about what they can do and what
can't. But only way to see true difference is to use it. I have
experience of using both software. Why do You won't give chance to users
to make their own choice?


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Re: Bug#667506: RFS: install-debian/2.1.3 [NEW] -- command line installs Debian system non-interactively

2012-04-04 Thread Vladimir Stavrinov
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 10:51:16PM +0200, Gergely Nagy wrote:

> Out of curiosity, what were your problems with d-i, that couldn't have
> been fixed via patches to d-i, that could only be solved by writing a

First was software raid restrictions, then partitioning (logical volumes
and file system creation), that take time and manual work. But total
reason is that it is more continent to have single shell script to do
the routine work.

> (Note: I have not looked at your package.)

Try to use it - You've get more feeling then from it's description.


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Re: alternate make file for dh tiny rules

2012-04-04 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Gergely Nagy
 wrote:
> Matt Zagrabelny  writes:
>
>> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Matt Zagrabelny  wrote:
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> I am packaging up milter-regex. The upstream source has three makefiles:
>>>
>>> Makefile
>>> Makefile.linux
>>> Makefile.solaris
>>>
>>> The file, "Makefile", is for building in a BSD environment. If I specify
>>>
>>> make -f Makefile.linux
>>
>> Hmmm.
>>
>> I tried the following:
>
> I suggest reading man dh, in particular, it's EXAMPLES section, where
> this very question has already been answered.

Thanks for the hint, Gergely. Unfortunately the man page, in
particular the EXAMPLES section, does not address my *initial*
question (AFAIK):

---{original question}---
Is there an easy way to tell "dh" that it should
use Makefile.linux instead of Makefile?

Or do I need to perform override_dh_* for all the targets that need to be used?
---{end}---

And really at this point my original question is making less and less
sense as I think about it.

I am familiar with the override syntax of dh, if that is what you were
referring to when you mentioned the question I asked about being
answered in the dh man page.

I am using the dh_override_* mechanisms now.

>> Perhaps I don't understand the MAKE environment variable.
>
> I'm afraid you don't. The info documentation of make talks about this
> variable in section "5.7.1 How the `MAKE' Variable Works".

Okay. Thanks for the info.

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Re: Bug#667506: RFS: install-debian/2.1.3 [NEW] -- command line installs Debian system non-interactively

2012-04-04 Thread Michael Shuler
On 04/04/2012 04:10 PM, Vladimir Stavrinov wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 10:51:16PM +0200, Gergely Nagy wrote:
> 
>> Out of curiosity, what were your problems with d-i, that couldn't have
>> been fixed via patches to d-i, that could only be solved by writing a
> 
> First was software raid restrictions, then partitioning (logical volumes
> and file system creation), that take time and manual work. But total
> reason is that it is more continent to have single shell script to do
> the routine work.

All of this can be done with preseeding d-i, as well as much, much more,
when you consider including pre- and/or post-install scripting from your
preseed, using modular includes, based on the results of polling a
remote database for the machine's intended purpose, its hardware
components, desired OS version/architecture, additional desired
software, etc..  In a previous work life, I've used d-i and some
additional shell/perl/python on 10's of thousands of machines.

A single shell script would not, imo, have anything compelling to offer
above the flexibility of what d-i and preseeding can do for automation.

>> (Note: I have not looked at your package.)

Nor have I.

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Re: Bug#667506: RFS: install-debian/2.1.3 [NEW] -- command line installs Debian system non-interactively

2012-04-04 Thread Vladimir Stavrinov
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 04:45:39PM -0500, Michael Shuler wrote:

> All of this can be done with preseeding d-i, as well as much, much more,

For a years there was problem to make partitionable and bootable raid

> when you consider including pre- and/or post-install scripting from your

The main point is default setting, that allow do not spent time for
configuration. I make partitioning scheme with logical volumes by
default that is suitable in most cases for the first time, and then on
run time it allow to resize volumes and filesystems, so to allocate disk
space in most efficient way. And remember - all of this You've get in
non-interactive way by running script without parameters.

> preseed, using modular includes, based on the results of polling a

Again, instead preseed, You can simply put Your target configuration
file for any package into include directory and use meaningful shell
variable assignments. It is very simple and clean.

> A single shell script would not, imo, have anything compelling to offer
> above the flexibility of what d-i and preseeding can do for automation.

I agree, d-i is more universal, because it is too big. But
debian-installer is more convenient and efficient in most (typical)
cases. As for raid, d-i can't do, what install-debian can (see above).
It create mirror, raid5 and raid10 by default. In two last cases there
will be separate mirror for /boot directory.

> >> (Note: I have not looked at your package.)
> 
> Nor have I.

try it:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/install-debian/files/debian-rescue_amd64.iso/download


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Bug#667566: RFS: expat/2.1.0-1 [NMU]

2012-04-04 Thread cento
Package: sponsorship-requests
  Severity: normal 

  Dear mentors,

  I am looking for a sponsor for my package "expat"

 * Package name: expat
   Version : 2.1.0-1
   Upstream Author : fdrake, kwaclaw
 * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/expat/
 * License : MIT License
   Section : library

  It builds those binary packages:

expat - XML parsing C library - example application
 lib64expat1 - XML parsing C library - runtime library (64bit)
 lib64expat1-dev - XML parsing C library - development kit (64bit)
 libexpat1  - XML parsing C library - runtime library
 libexpat1-dev - XML parsing C library - development kit
 libexpat1-udeb - XML parsing C library - runtime library (udeb)

  To access further information about this package, please visit the
following URL:

  http://mentors.debian.net/package/expat


  Alternatively, one can download the package with dget using this
command:

dget -x
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/e/expat/expat_2.1.0-1.dsc


  Changes since the last upload:
  * Bug Fixes: 
- #1742315: Harmful XML_ParserCreateNS suggestion.
- #2895533: CVE-2012-1147 - Resource leak in readfilemap.c. 
- #1785430: Expat build fails on linux-amd64 with gcc version>=4.1
-O3. 
- #1983953, 2517952, 2517962, 2649838: Build modifications using
autoreconf instead of buildconf.sh. 
- #2815947, #2884086: OBJEXT and EXEEXT support while building. 
- #1990430: CVE-2009-3720 - Parser crash with special UTF-8
sequences. 
- #2517938: xmlwf should return non-zero exit status if not
well-formed. 
- #2517946: Wrong statement about XMLDecl in xmlwf.1 and
xmlwf.sgml. 
- #2855609: Dangling positionPtr after error. 
- #2894085: CVE-2009-3560 - Buffer over-read and crash in
big2_toUtf8(). 
- #2958794: CVE-2012-1148 - Memory leak in poolGrow. 
- #2990652: CMake support. 
- #3010819: UNEXPECTED_STATE with a trailing "%" in entity value. 
- #3206497: Unitialized memory returned from XML_Parse. 
- #3287849: make check fails on mingw-w64. 
- #3496608: CVE-2012-0876 - Hash DOS attack.
  * Patches: 
- #1749198: pkg-config support. 
- #3010222: Fix for bug #3010819. 
- #3312568: CMake support. 
- #3446384: Report byte offsets for attr names and values.



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Bug#667566: RFS: expat/2.1.0-1 [NMU]

2012-04-04 Thread Paul Wise
The SGML/XML team are looking for a new maintainer for expat, if you
were willing to join the team you would probably find sponsors there:

http://bugs.debian.org/660681

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Bug#661511: Update from nmu version

2012-04-04 Thread Prach Pongpanich
Dear mentors,

 Update from NMU version.

 tpb   - program to use the IBM ThinkPad(tm) special keys

 To access further information about this package, please visit the
following URL:

 http://mentors.debian.net/package/tpb
 Alternatively, one can download the package with dget using this command:

   dget -x http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/t/tpb/tpb_0.6.4-8.dsc

 Changes since the last upload:

 * New maintainer (Closes: #643900)
  * Switch to dpkg-source 3.0 (quilt) format
  * debian/compat:
- Bump debhelper compat level to 7
  * debian/control:
- Update Build-Depends debhelper to (>= 7.0.50~)
- Bump to Standards-Version 3.9.3, no changes needed
- Add upstream home page
- Add dpkg-dev (>= 1.16.1~) to Build-Deps as we require the hardening
  build flags
  * debian/rules:
- Replace "dh_clean -k" with "dh_prep"
  * debian/watch
- Remove dh_make template
  * debian/tpb.config:
- Fix lintian warning: unused-debconf-template
- Remove "db_input medium tpb/makedev",
  not contained in debconf templates file (Closes: #656917)
   * Fix lintian spelling error:
- debian/patch/fix-spelling-error-in-manpage.patch
- debian/patch/fix-spelling-error-in-binary.patch

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Re: alternate make file for dh tiny rules

2012-04-04 Thread Gergely Nagy
Matt Zagrabelny  writes:

> Thanks for the hint, Gergely. Unfortunately the man page, in
> particular the EXAMPLES section, does not address my *initial*
> question (AFAIK):
>
> ---{original question}---
> Is there an easy way to tell "dh" that it should
> use Makefile.linux instead of Makefile?
>
> Or do I need to perform override_dh_* for all the targets that need to be 
> used?
> ---{end}---
>
> And really at this point my original question is making less and less
> sense as I think about it.

Ah, I missed the second part of the question. In that case, the answer
is: possibly. You can play dirty tricks by symlinking Makefile.linux to
Makefile in the build target, and removing the symlink in clean.

The other option is to, indeed, override every target that would want to
use the Makefile.

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