Debian on the MacBookAir3,1
Hi there, I'm trying to get Debian to work properly on one of the new MacBookAir machines. I've started documenting my steps so it can be of use to someone hopefully: http://dentifrice.poivron.org/laptops/macbookair3,1/ It's a work in progress, and quite a lot of things need to be fixed and/or figured out still, so contributions/corrections are more than welcome! I'd be delighted to know that some more people are trying to get Debian running on this nice little machine. Cheers, -- mike dentifrice -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-laptop-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101207155006.ga25...@dentifrice
Nec LaVie MX LX60T/5 + keys
Hi there, I've just bought a cute Nec LaVie MX LX60T/5 subnotebook (http://www.transmeta.com/everywhere/products/notebooks/nec/nec_lavie_mx.html). This product has been widely spread over Japan, but seems to have hardly ever hit Europe or the US. As a result, I have found nearly no documentation about it that I can understand. As no manual was shipped with it and the NEC hotline refuses to help me (it was a stock clearage offer from an online store), I would be *really* glad to find people I can ask simple questions to (like, is there really a switchable backlight to be found somewhere?). Now let's go to the software part. I've installed a Debian Woody on it (booted from USB CD-ROM and did the rest from the network), and I'm having problems with some keys that aren't recognized (like Alt Gr, which is very painful). Any tip on how to adapt keymaps? Are there specific keymaps for laptops? I'll get to ACPI issues later I guess, Thanks in advance, PS: from what I could guess, a pretty similar version of this laptop has been released in France under the name of "Versa Ultralite", and in the US under the name of "Versa Daylite". So if you're using one of these... ;) -- mike dentifrice
Re: alt-gr problem off-topic
> today i was going to use a alt-gr + key and it didn't work. > > No alt-gr + key combination works.. > > But it's only in X. Using tty1 You have to tell X where to find the Alt-Gr key. To do this, first launch the "xev" program under X, which will tell you the keycode for each key you press. Write down the keycode that pops-up when you press Alt-Gr, and quit. Then, try to map the Alt-Gr "function" to the keycode you obtained, by doing: $ xmodmap -e keycode = Mode_switch Try using Alt-Gr. If it works, create a .xmodmaprc file in your $HOME, containing "keycode = Mode_switch" and call it from your .xinitrc or .xsession by adding "xmodmap .xmodmaprc". That's it! -- mike dentifrice
troubles with ACPI on a NEC LaVie MX
Hi there, I'm having problems with ACPI on a NEC LaVie MX LX60T/5 sublaptop (which is *very* similar to NEC Versa Ultralite and Daylite models - if you have one of those, *please* tell me about your experience!). When using tools such as wmbattery to monitor battery state, wmbattery hangs after a certain period of time, and eats all CPU power. Any attempt to kill the process (with the -9 option) remains unsuccessful. At this point, when I try to read files in /proc/acpi, most of them crash the shell, and won't allow to be killed. When this happens, I get loads of such messages in my logs (messages, kern.log and syslog): May 11 18:49:16 localhost kernel: osl-0888 [49] os_wait_semaphore : Failed to acquire semaphore[c6cf7580|1|0], AE_TIME Switching from wmbattery to "acpi -V" seemed to help. But there remains a big problem. Quite often, my keyboard stops working. Most of the time, it happens after I leave the computer alone for some time, lid closed (with AC adaptor plugged or unplugged). But recently, it even happened while I was typing! When this happens, the mouse keeps working, as well as the key combination "ctrl alt del". The reboot can't be completed, though, and the machine hangs while trying to unmout usb devices (I don't have any USB connected). The reason why I think it has to do with ACPI is that I get the "os_wait_semaphore" line as well when it happens. I also ssh'ed into my machine in this state, and any acpi querrying would crash the shell... Any idea how to fix this? More info on my configuration: $ uname -sr Linux 2.4.20-wolk4.0s-pre-final $ cat /proc/acpi/info version: 20030328 states: S0 S1 S3 S4 S5 -- mike dentifrice
Re: Problems getting ACPI support to work on a HP Pavilion
Niko Schmuck disait : > Setting the System clock using the Hardware Clock as reference... The RTC (realtime clock) driver is responsable for this. You should recompile your kernel without it... -- mike dentifrice
Dell Latitude LS: crash on reboot w/ 2.4.x
Hello,
I'm having a weird problem on a Dell Latitude LS laptop, running Debian
Sarge. Everything works fine, except when I do a reboot from a 2.4.x
kernel.
After the reboot, Debian starts fine until my hdparm script turns DMA on
and sets the disk to 32-bit mode. At this point, I get a series of DMA
timeout messages, and hdparm ends up switching back to 16-bit mode.
When this happens, my network card doesn't work anymore and floods me
with error messages when I try to ping another machine. On top of
that, I sometimes get another error message, related to USB UHCI (I
enclosed error messages as an attachment - errorlog.txt).
This *only* happens when I reboot the computer while using a 2.4.x
kernel. I've been doing some tests with various custom kernels: 2.4.18
kernel sources from Woody and 2.4.21 from kernel.org. I also compiled a
kernel with APM disabled, and the same thing happens. (I enclosed my
kernel .config file as an attachment - kernelconfig.txt).
What makes me believe it has to do with my 2.4.x kernel is that I've
tried with the 2.2.20-idepci kernel from the woody install CD, and then,
there's no problem!
These problems only happen after a reboot (with "reboot"). Switching the
computer off with "halt", and switching it on again causes no trouble at
all.
Has anyone encountered such a weirdness? Any explanation? Solution?
Thanks in advance,
--
mike dentifrice
This is what happens when I do a "hdparm -c 1 -d 1 /dev/hda":
/dev/hda:
setting 32-bit IO_support flag to 1
setting using_dma to 1 (on)
blk: queue c02c2940, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x)
IO_support = 1 (32-bit)
using_dma= 1 (on)
hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x21
hda: timeout waiting for DMA
hda: timeout waiting for DMA
hda: (__ide_dma_test_irq) called while not waiting
hda: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
When I try to use the network card:
NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out
eth0: transmit timed out, tx_status 00 status e000.
diagnostics: net 0cfc media 8880 dma 00a0.
Flags; bus-master 1, dirty 0(0) current 16(0)
Transmit list 07f73200 vs. c7f73200.
0: @c7f73200 length 802a status 002a
1: @c7f73240 length 802a status 002a
2: @c7f73280 length 802a status 002a
3: @c7f732c0 length 802a status 002a
4: @c7f73300 length 802a status 002a
5: @c7f73340 length 802a status 002a
6: @c7f73380 length 802a status 002a
7: @c7f733c0 length 802a status 002a
8: @c7f73400 length 802a status 002a
9: @c7f73440 length 802a status 002a
10: @c7f73480 length 802a status 002a
11: @c7f734c0 length 802a status 002a
12: @c7f73500 length 802a status 002a
13: @c7f73540 length 802a status 002a
14: @c7f73580 length 802a status 802a
15: @c7f735c0 length 802a status 802a
Sometimes, this error message also appears:
uhci.c: fce0: host controller halted. very bad
#
# Automatically generated by make menuconfig: don't edit
#
CONFIG_X86=y
# CONFIG_SBUS is not set
CONFIG_UID16=y
#
# Code maturity level options
#
CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y
#
# Loadable module support
#
CONFIG_MODULES=y
CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y
CONFIG_KMOD=y
#
# Processor type and features
#
# CONFIG_M386 is not set
# CONFIG_M486 is not set
# CONFIG_M586 is not set
# CONFIG_M586TSC is not set
# CONFIG_M586MMX is not set
# CONFIG_M686 is not set
CONFIG_MPENTIUMIII=y
# CONFIG_MPENTIUM4 is not set
# CONFIG_MK6 is not set
# CONFIG_MK7 is not set
# CONFIG_MK8 is not set
# CONFIG_MELAN is not set
# CONFIG_MCRUSOE is not set
# CONFIG_MWINCHIPC6 is not set
# CONFIG_MWINCHIP2 is not set
# CONFIG_MWINCHIP3D is not set
# CONFIG_MCYRIXIII is not set
# CONFIG_MVIAC3_2 is not set
CONFIG_X86_WP_WORKS_OK=y
CONFIG_X86_INVLPG=y
CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG=y
CONFIG_X86_XADD=y
CONFIG_X86_BSWAP=y
CONFIG_X86_POPAD_OK=y
# CONFIG_RWSEM_GENERIC_SPINLOCK is not set
CONFIG_RWSEM_XCHGADD_ALGORITHM=y
CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT=5
CONFIG_X86_HAS_TSC=y
CONFIG_X86_GOOD_APIC=y
CONFIG_X86_PGE=y
CONFIG_X86_USE_PPRO_CHECKSUM=y
CONFIG_X86_F00F_WORKS_OK=y
CONFIG_X86_MCE=y
# CONFIG_TOSHIBA is not set
CONFIG_I8K=m
# CONFIG_MICROCODE is not set
# CONFIG_X86_MSR is not set
# CONFIG_X86_CPUID is not set
CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM=y
# CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G is not set
# CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set
# CONFIG_HIGHMEM is not set
# CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION is not set
CONFIG_MTRR=y
# CONFIG_SMP is not set
# CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC is not set
# CONFIG_X86_UP_IOAPIC is not set
# CONFIG_X86_TSC_DISABLE is not set
CONFIG_X86_TSC=y
#
# General setup
#
CONFIG_NET=y
CONFIG_PCI=y
# CONFIG_PCI_GOBIOS is not set
# CONFIG_PCI_GODIRECT is not set
CONFIG_PCI_GOANY=y
CONFIG_PCI_BIOS=y
CONFIG_PCI_DIRECT=y
CONFIG_ISA=y
CONFIG_PCI_NAMES=y
# CONFIG_EISA is not set
# CONFIG_MCA is not set
CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y
#
# PCMCIA/CardBus support
#
CONFIG_PCMCIA=y
CONFIG_CARDBUS=y
# CONFIG_TCIC is not set
# CONFIG_I82092 is not set
# CONFIG_I82365 is not se
mail synchronisation between laptop and desktop
Hello out there, I'm trying to find an efficient way to synchronize mail folders between my laptop and my desktop computer, and would be glad to hear about some possible (and working!) setups. Here's my configuration and what I would like to do: I'm using mutt on debian, and my mail folders are in mbox format (I don't want to switch to Maildir, which is one of the reasons why I can't find an easy solution, since so much people who sync seem to be using Maildir :/). I fetch mail from a mail server using IMAP through SSH; mostly to my desktop computer, but occasionnaly to my laptop computer. I would like to maintain two copies of my Mail folders, one on the desktop and one on the laptop. Both would be updated with mails I deleted/wrote/received + their status, on a regular basis - say, each time I sync :) I've had a look at rsync, but it seems not to handle bidirectionnal syncing, and cannot understand mbox contents, since it relies on file modification date (which I think can lead to great errors, forget some new messages and not suppress some deleted ones, etc.) I've had a look at mailsync, but it can only connect to a remote host via IMAP, and thus recquires the installation of an imapd server both on the laptop and on the desktop. Plus it does not support ssh (which is not such a big deal though, since it can be tunnelised). I've also looked at isync, but it only supports Maildir. So, any idea/experience? Thanks in advance! -- mike dentifrice
Re: Wireless
Ryan Nowakowski disait : > The AirPlus 650+ has a weird chipset apparently. The last time I > checked, it didn't work with Debian. There's a closed-source driver available (don't know if it works, though): http://www.ivor.it/wireless/acx.html And an open-source driver is currently being developped, though it still needs the proprietary firmware: http://acx100.sourceforge.net/ There's also a link to a (useless) D-Link infopage: http://support.dlink.com/faq/view.asp?prod_id=1042&question=DWL-650+%20/%20DWL-520+ -- mike dentifrice
Re: mail synchronisation between laptop and desktop
Ryan Nowakowski said: > > Check out unison: > > http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/ > > apt-get install unison Unison can do bidirectionnal syncing indeed. But I fear it can't take *content* into consideration. Unison will look at files as files, not as mboxes, so it won't know if a mail is to be suppressed (because deleted) or added (because new), right? -- mike dentifrice
Re: mail synchronisation between laptop and desktop
Daniel Andor said: > Any tools to convert mbox to maildir? The qmail site (http://www.qmail.org) provides a set of scripts to do this (cf http://www.linuxchix.org/pipermail/techtalk/2002-November/013929.html) See also http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/postfix/1999-q4/1477.html -- mike dentifrice
Re: mail synchronisation between laptop and desktop
criggie said: > Maildir would be a beautiful solution - because each email is a uniquely > numbered file inside a directory structure. Any of the two-way sync > programs should be able to deal with that. Why do you not want to > switch to maildir format? Its relatively easy too. Seems to be easy enough, indeed. Till now, I've been reluctant to use Maildir because of disk-space issues (Maildir is a great inode eater!), and because my whole mail system (mutt, postfix, procmail) is configured for mbox (and I have a lot of these folders). > Whats the end goal anyway? If you're getting email from an imap > server... why not simply leave the mail on the imap server and use an > imap-aware mail client on each machine? I have my laptop and > squirrelmail (webmail interface) using an imap server at home, so I can > access mail from a desktop anywhere or my laptop, as long as theres a > net connection. Are you trying to find a problem for a solution? :) A solution :) I don't want to leave mails on the server because I have limited storage space there. And I want to be able to do offline reading, since most places I travel to happen to be disconnected environents, or connected via a regular 33k6 modem (which means slow and expensive bandwidth). -- mike dentifrice
Re: Problems getting ACPI support to work on a HP Pavilion
Niko Schmuck disait : > Setting the System clock using the Hardware Clock as reference... The RTC (realtime clock) driver is responsable for this. You should recompile your kernel without it... -- mike dentifrice -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dell Latitude LS: crash on reboot w/ 2.4.x
Hello,
I'm having a weird problem on a Dell Latitude LS laptop, running Debian
Sarge. Everything works fine, except when I do a reboot from a 2.4.x
kernel.
After the reboot, Debian starts fine until my hdparm script turns DMA on
and sets the disk to 32-bit mode. At this point, I get a series of DMA
timeout messages, and hdparm ends up switching back to 16-bit mode.
When this happens, my network card doesn't work anymore and floods me
with error messages when I try to ping another machine. On top of
that, I sometimes get another error message, related to USB UHCI (I
enclosed error messages as an attachment - errorlog.txt).
This *only* happens when I reboot the computer while using a 2.4.x
kernel. I've been doing some tests with various custom kernels: 2.4.18
kernel sources from Woody and 2.4.21 from kernel.org. I also compiled a
kernel with APM disabled, and the same thing happens. (I enclosed my
kernel .config file as an attachment - kernelconfig.txt).
What makes me believe it has to do with my 2.4.x kernel is that I've
tried with the 2.2.20-idepci kernel from the woody install CD, and then,
there's no problem!
These problems only happen after a reboot (with "reboot"). Switching the
computer off with "halt", and switching it on again causes no trouble at
all.
Has anyone encountered such a weirdness? Any explanation? Solution?
Thanks in advance,
--
mike dentifrice
This is what happens when I do a "hdparm -c 1 -d 1 /dev/hda":
/dev/hda:
setting 32-bit IO_support flag to 1
setting using_dma to 1 (on)
blk: queue c02c2940, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x)
IO_support = 1 (32-bit)
using_dma= 1 (on)
hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x21
hda: timeout waiting for DMA
hda: timeout waiting for DMA
hda: (__ide_dma_test_irq) called while not waiting
hda: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
When I try to use the network card:
NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out
eth0: transmit timed out, tx_status 00 status e000.
diagnostics: net 0cfc media 8880 dma 00a0.
Flags; bus-master 1, dirty 0(0) current 16(0)
Transmit list 07f73200 vs. c7f73200.
0: @c7f73200 length 802a status 002a
1: @c7f73240 length 802a status 002a
2: @c7f73280 length 802a status 002a
3: @c7f732c0 length 802a status 002a
4: @c7f73300 length 802a status 002a
5: @c7f73340 length 802a status 002a
6: @c7f73380 length 802a status 002a
7: @c7f733c0 length 802a status 002a
8: @c7f73400 length 802a status 002a
9: @c7f73440 length 802a status 002a
10: @c7f73480 length 802a status 002a
11: @c7f734c0 length 802a status 002a
12: @c7f73500 length 802a status 002a
13: @c7f73540 length 802a status 002a
14: @c7f73580 length 802a status 802a
15: @c7f735c0 length 802a status 802a
Sometimes, this error message also appears:
uhci.c: fce0: host controller halted. very bad
#
# Automatically generated by make menuconfig: don't edit
#
CONFIG_X86=y
# CONFIG_SBUS is not set
CONFIG_UID16=y
#
# Code maturity level options
#
CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y
#
# Loadable module support
#
CONFIG_MODULES=y
CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y
CONFIG_KMOD=y
#
# Processor type and features
#
# CONFIG_M386 is not set
# CONFIG_M486 is not set
# CONFIG_M586 is not set
# CONFIG_M586TSC is not set
# CONFIG_M586MMX is not set
# CONFIG_M686 is not set
CONFIG_MPENTIUMIII=y
# CONFIG_MPENTIUM4 is not set
# CONFIG_MK6 is not set
# CONFIG_MK7 is not set
# CONFIG_MK8 is not set
# CONFIG_MELAN is not set
# CONFIG_MCRUSOE is not set
# CONFIG_MWINCHIPC6 is not set
# CONFIG_MWINCHIP2 is not set
# CONFIG_MWINCHIP3D is not set
# CONFIG_MCYRIXIII is not set
# CONFIG_MVIAC3_2 is not set
CONFIG_X86_WP_WORKS_OK=y
CONFIG_X86_INVLPG=y
CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG=y
CONFIG_X86_XADD=y
CONFIG_X86_BSWAP=y
CONFIG_X86_POPAD_OK=y
# CONFIG_RWSEM_GENERIC_SPINLOCK is not set
CONFIG_RWSEM_XCHGADD_ALGORITHM=y
CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT=5
CONFIG_X86_HAS_TSC=y
CONFIG_X86_GOOD_APIC=y
CONFIG_X86_PGE=y
CONFIG_X86_USE_PPRO_CHECKSUM=y
CONFIG_X86_F00F_WORKS_OK=y
CONFIG_X86_MCE=y
# CONFIG_TOSHIBA is not set
CONFIG_I8K=m
# CONFIG_MICROCODE is not set
# CONFIG_X86_MSR is not set
# CONFIG_X86_CPUID is not set
CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM=y
# CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G is not set
# CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set
# CONFIG_HIGHMEM is not set
# CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION is not set
CONFIG_MTRR=y
# CONFIG_SMP is not set
# CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC is not set
# CONFIG_X86_UP_IOAPIC is not set
# CONFIG_X86_TSC_DISABLE is not set
CONFIG_X86_TSC=y
#
# General setup
#
CONFIG_NET=y
CONFIG_PCI=y
# CONFIG_PCI_GOBIOS is not set
# CONFIG_PCI_GODIRECT is not set
CONFIG_PCI_GOANY=y
CONFIG_PCI_BIOS=y
CONFIG_PCI_DIRECT=y
CONFIG_ISA=y
CONFIG_PCI_NAMES=y
# CONFIG_EISA is not set
# CONFIG_MCA is not set
CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y
#
# PCMCIA/CardBus support
#
CONFIG_PCMCIA=y
CONFIG_CARDBUS=y
# CONFIG_TCIC is not set
# CONFIG_I82092 is not set
# CONFIG_I82365 is not se
mail synchronisation between laptop and desktop
Hello out there, I'm trying to find an efficient way to synchronize mail folders between my laptop and my desktop computer, and would be glad to hear about some possible (and working!) setups. Here's my configuration and what I would like to do: I'm using mutt on debian, and my mail folders are in mbox format (I don't want to switch to Maildir, which is one of the reasons why I can't find an easy solution, since so much people who sync seem to be using Maildir :/). I fetch mail from a mail server using IMAP through SSH; mostly to my desktop computer, but occasionnaly to my laptop computer. I would like to maintain two copies of my Mail folders, one on the desktop and one on the laptop. Both would be updated with mails I deleted/wrote/received + their status, on a regular basis - say, each time I sync :) I've had a look at rsync, but it seems not to handle bidirectionnal syncing, and cannot understand mbox contents, since it relies on file modification date (which I think can lead to great errors, forget some new messages and not suppress some deleted ones, etc.) I've had a look at mailsync, but it can only connect to a remote host via IMAP, and thus recquires the installation of an imapd server both on the laptop and on the desktop. Plus it does not support ssh (which is not such a big deal though, since it can be tunnelised). I've also looked at isync, but it only supports Maildir. So, any idea/experience? Thanks in advance! -- mike dentifrice -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wireless
Ryan Nowakowski disait : > The AirPlus 650+ has a weird chipset apparently. The last time I > checked, it didn't work with Debian. There's a closed-source driver available (don't know if it works, though): http://www.ivor.it/wireless/acx.html And an open-source driver is currently being developped, though it still needs the proprietary firmware: http://acx100.sourceforge.net/ There's also a link to a (useless) D-Link infopage: http://support.dlink.com/faq/view.asp?prod_id=1042&question=DWL-650+%20/%20DWL-520+ -- mike dentifrice -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mail synchronisation between laptop and desktop
Ryan Nowakowski said: > > Check out unison: > > http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/ > > apt-get install unison Unison can do bidirectionnal syncing indeed. But I fear it can't take *content* into consideration. Unison will look at files as files, not as mboxes, so it won't know if a mail is to be suppressed (because deleted) or added (because new), right? -- mike dentifrice -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mail synchronisation between laptop and desktop
Daniel Andor said: > Any tools to convert mbox to maildir? The qmail site (http://www.qmail.org) provides a set of scripts to do this (cf http://www.linuxchix.org/pipermail/techtalk/2002-November/013929.html) See also http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/postfix/1999-q4/1477.html -- mike dentifrice -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mail synchronisation between laptop and desktop
criggie said: > Maildir would be a beautiful solution - because each email is a uniquely > numbered file inside a directory structure. Any of the two-way sync > programs should be able to deal with that. Why do you not want to > switch to maildir format? Its relatively easy too. Seems to be easy enough, indeed. Till now, I've been reluctant to use Maildir because of disk-space issues (Maildir is a great inode eater!), and because my whole mail system (mutt, postfix, procmail) is configured for mbox (and I have a lot of these folders). > Whats the end goal anyway? If you're getting email from an imap > server... why not simply leave the mail on the imap server and use an > imap-aware mail client on each machine? I have my laptop and > squirrelmail (webmail interface) using an imap server at home, so I can > access mail from a desktop anywhere or my laptop, as long as theres a > net connection. Are you trying to find a problem for a solution? :) A solution :) I don't want to leave mails on the server because I have limited storage space there. And I want to be able to do offline reading, since most places I travel to happen to be disconnected environents, or connected via a regular 33k6 modem (which means slow and expensive bandwidth). -- mike dentifrice -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Users...
Yves Rutschle said: > (ok, PWM is good too. Gnome and KDE are essentially the same thing > IMO.) I've been using PWM for some time now, and just can't get anything better. It allows everything to be done via keyboard, is way more flexible that ion (you can have some windows overlap is you want to, which I sometimes do :P), is very light and even elegant, very (and easily) configurable, has tabbed browsing (I think it even introduced it, before fluxbox made it popular), dock support, EVERYTHING! :) # apt-get install pwm or $ links http://modeemi.fi/~tuomov/pwm/ You people should, really. ;) -- mike dentifrice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Users...
Yves Rutschle said: > (ok, PWM is good too. Gnome and KDE are essentially the same thing > IMO.) I've been using PWM for some time now, and just can't get anything better. It allows everything to be done via keyboard, is way more flexible that ion (you can have some windows overlap is you want to, which I sometimes do :P), is very light and even elegant, very (and easily) configurable, has tabbed browsing (I think it even introduced it, before fluxbox made it popular), dock support, EVERYTHING! :) # apt-get install pwm or $ links http://modeemi.fi/~tuomov/pwm/ You people should, really. ;) -- mike dentifrice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Apple iBook G4 & GNU/Linux (Debian) compatibility?
Hi there, I'm in the process of buying a new laptop, and I have to admit that I'm very attracted to the cute new 12" Apple iBook G4. But browsing through a few pages and asking around on IRC, it seems there's still some serious issues with it: - sleep mode: whereas previous iBooks had perfect Linux support for suspend, it doesn't (yet?) work on the newer G4. Any information on the development status? In short, is there any hope for a sleep support in the future? Is it scheduled? Etc. - Airport Extreme: not working, and apparently, might never work (no drivers, no specs, uncaring broadcom company). Any information on an open-source driver/work-around (with binary driver from OS X or something!?)? - no PCMCIA slot: I need wireless connectivity, and if I can't have Airport Extreme work, I'd like to be able to use my PCMCIA WiFi cards, at least! Does anyone know of an USB to PCMCIA converter that works with GNU/Linux? Or any other solution that would allow me to use PCMCIA on those iBooks? Thanks in advance for any pointers, answers, tips and the like! -- mike dentifrice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Users...
Yves Rutschle said: > (ok, PWM is good too. Gnome and KDE are essentially the same thing > IMO.) I've been using PWM for some time now, and just can't get anything better. It allows everything to be done via keyboard, is way more flexible that ion (you can have some windows overlap is you want to, which I sometimes do :P), is very light and even elegant, very (and easily) configurable, has tabbed browsing (I think it even introduced it, before fluxbox made it popular), dock support, EVERYTHING! :) # apt-get install pwm or $ links http://modeemi.fi/~tuomov/pwm/ You people should, really. ;) -- mike dentifrice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Debian Users...
Yves Rutschle said: > (ok, PWM is good too. Gnome and KDE are essentially the same thing > IMO.) I've been using PWM for some time now, and just can't get anything better. It allows everything to be done via keyboard, is way more flexible that ion (you can have some windows overlap is you want to, which I sometimes do :P), is very light and even elegant, very (and easily) configurable, has tabbed browsing (I think it even introduced it, before fluxbox made it popular), dock support, EVERYTHING! :) # apt-get install pwm or $ links http://modeemi.fi/~tuomov/pwm/ You people should, really. ;) -- mike dentifrice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Apple iBook G4 & GNU/Linux (Debian) compatibility?
Hi there, I'm in the process of buying a new laptop, and I have to admit that I'm very attracted to the cute new 12" Apple iBook G4. But browsing through a few pages and asking around on IRC, it seems there's still some serious issues with it: - sleep mode: whereas previous iBooks had perfect Linux support for suspend, it doesn't (yet?) work on the newer G4. Any information on the development status? In short, is there any hope for a sleep support in the future? Is it scheduled? Etc. - Airport Extreme: not working, and apparently, might never work (no drivers, no specs, uncaring broadcom company). Any information on an open-source driver/work-around (with binary driver from OS X or something!?)? - no PCMCIA slot: I need wireless connectivity, and if I can't have Airport Extreme work, I'd like to be able to use my PCMCIA WiFi cards, at least! Does anyone know of an USB to PCMCIA converter that works with GNU/Linux? Or any other solution that would allow me to use PCMCIA on those iBooks? Thanks in advance for any pointers, answers, tips and the like! -- mike dentifrice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
