date:20020114


I have noticed on booting that I have a message saying that an IDE bus
speed of 33MHz is being assumed.

As far as I know the i8000 has a 66MHz bus speed.

Has anyone had any experience with appending idebus=66 to the boot
prompt?

Will it damage anything if not true?

Will it make much difference to end performance - I'm assuming only for
intensive disk use but that may speed up my "locate" updates?



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problem with installing debian on a mac powerbook!

2002-01-14 Thread Herr Mathias Tradinik


please forgive me if these are bad questions, but I'm new in Linux in
general!

I've got a powerbook 190cs
i've downloaded debian from the FTP Mirror in Austria and I've started the
installation!
mac OS shuts down and linux starts, it checks several things.
And then it hangs!
the last outputs are:
RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K
loop: registered device at major 7
ide0: Macintosh Poerbook IDE interface

and thats the point where it still hangs!
I've tried it serveral times every time the same thing
Please help me!
thanks a lot!
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Re: problem with installing debian on a mac powerbook!




Please see if your laptopo is on linux-laptop.net
to see if other people have installed it on you type of laptop



On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, Herr Mathias Tradinik wrote:

>Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 15:12:40 +0100
>From: Herr Mathias Tradinik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: problem with installing debian on a mac powerbook!
>Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>please forgive me if these are bad questions, but I'm new in Linux in
>general!
>
>I've got a powerbook 190cs
>i've downloaded debian from the FTP Mirror in Austria and I've started the
>installation!
>mac OS shuts down and linux starts, it checks several things.
>And then it hangs!
>the last outputs are:
>RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K
>loop: registered device at major 7
>ide0: Macintosh Poerbook IDE interface
>
>and thats the point where it still hangs!
>I've tried it serveral times every time the same thing
>Please help me!
>thanks a lot!
>Mathias Tradinik
>
>
>


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Re: problem with installing debian on a mac powerbook!

2002-01-14 Thread Best Traffic Prices in our Solar System




also are you sure you using the correct archictecure?

Are you trying to install i386 linux on a mac?



On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, Herr Mathias Tradinik wrote:

>Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 15:12:40 +0100
>From: Herr Mathias Tradinik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: problem with installing debian on a mac powerbook!
>Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>please forgive me if these are bad questions, but I'm new in Linux in
>general!
>
>I've got a powerbook 190cs
>i've downloaded debian from the FTP Mirror in Austria and I've started the
>installation!
>mac OS shuts down and linux starts, it checks several things.
>And then it hangs!
>the last outputs are:
>RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K
>loop: registered device at major 7
>ide0: Macintosh Poerbook IDE interface
>
>and thats the point where it still hangs!
>I've tried it serveral times every time the same thing
>Please help me!
>thanks a lot!
>Mathias Tradinik
>
>
>


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irDA and Palm IIIx

2002-01-14 Thread Darryl L. Pierce


Has anybody setup IR support for synching a Palm (I have a IIIx) with
their laptop? I've tried but cannot seem to get my irDA system to work.
I have a Gateway Solo 9300.

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Re: radeon mobility

2002-01-14 Thread Jason Majors


> >Is there a driver for the ati radeon mobility for x 4.1?
> >I set my notebook up using the radeon driver, but X dies complaining that
> >there are no devices available. Switching the Device line to "Standard VGA"
> >brings it up, but at vga16.

> Wat kind of laptop do you have?

Compaq presario 2700.
I'm starting to think that cygwin might be my only option.


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Re: radeon mobility

2002-01-14 Thread Thomas Mueller


Hi Jason!

> > >Is there a driver for the ati radeon mobility for x 4.1?
> > >I set my notebook up using the radeon driver, but X dies complaining that
> > >there are no devices available. Switching the Device line to "Standard VGA"
> > >brings it up, but at vga16.
> > Wat kind of laptop do you have?
> Compaq presario 2700.
> I'm starting to think that cygwin might be my only option.

I ordered a ThinkPad A30 with Radeon Mobility. On LinuxCare there is a
report on how to set up SuSE Linux an that laptop.
Wrong laptop and wrong distro, but they explain how to setup XFree by
hand from cvs:

http://www.linuxcare.com/labs/certs/ibm/thinkpad/a30/suse72-config.epl

If you find a working driver for a debian package it would be nice to
post that here.


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Re: radeon mobility

On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, Thomas Mueller wrote:

> Hi Jason!
>
> > > >Is there a driver for the ati radeon mobility for x 4.1?
> > > >I set my notebook up using the radeon driver, but X dies complaining that
> > > >there are no devices available. Switching the Device line to "Standard VGA"
> > > >brings it up, but at vga16.
> > > Wat kind of laptop do you have?
> > Compaq presario 2700.
> > I'm starting to think that cygwin might be my only option.
>
> I ordered a ThinkPad A30 with Radeon Mobility. On LinuxCare there is a
> report on how to set up SuSE Linux an that laptop.
> Wrong laptop and wrong distro, but they explain how to setup XFree by
> hand from cvs:
>
> http://www.linuxcare.com/labs/certs/ibm/thinkpad/a30/suse72-config.epl
>
> If you find a working driver for a debian package it would be nice to
> post that here.
>
Since I was responsible for the report for the A30, just a couple of notes
about the cert report for the A30...  I tested this with the latest
version of SuSE quite a bit and there was one non-replicable error which
occured often with default kernels the distributions provided.

After compiling X from CVS, the server
would complain about "could not determine panel size" sometimes.  I could
not isolate this to a certain event; but often by compiling a newer kernel
this would go away.  In fact, I never saw this happen after compiling a
new kernel on any of the distributions I tested.

Also, if you have never compiled X from CVS, be prepared for a "funtime"
(tm).  On the A30, it took me almost 2 hours to get compiled on SuSE.
Be sure you install bison and flex (lex) also.  If you don't you will have
a fatal compile-time error in X as it goes, and it does not "remember"
where it was when it happened.  So you have to start the whole process all
over again.

As a point in reference, take a look at the same report but a bit further
down:

http://www.linuxcare.com/labs/certs/ibm/thinkpad/a30/suse72-config.epl

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Re: Inspiron 8000 IDE bus speed

On 15 Jan 2002, Simon Wong wrote:
> I have noticed on booting that I have a message saying that an IDE bus
> speed of 33MHz is being assumed.

That's 33MHz *PCI* bus speed. Even if it says IDE everywhere near it.

> As far as I know the i8000 has a 66MHz bus speed.

That's unlikely. It may support UDMA-66 mode for the drives.

> Has anyone had any experience with appending idebus=66 to the boot
> prompt?

Hopefully not...

> Will it damage anything if not true?

...because it will make the IDE driver get all the timings for PIO mode
wrong. I don't know if it's going to damage things if you tell it the
wrong timings, but it's certainly not going to help.

> Will it make much difference to end performance 

No.

> - I'm assuming only for intensive disk use 

No, not even then.

> but that may speed up my "locate" updates?

Certainly not for 'locate' updates, a process which spends it's time
seeking around the disk.

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Re: Inspiron 8000 IDE bus speed


On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 10:42, Daniel Pittman wrote:
> On 15 Jan 2002, Simon Wong wrote:
> > I have noticed on booting that I have a message saying that an IDE bus
> > speed of 33MHz is being assumed.
> 
> That's 33MHz *PCI* bus speed. Even if it says IDE everywhere near it.

Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.31
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with
idebus=xx

> 
> > As far as I know the i8000 has a 66MHz bus speed.
> 
> That's unlikely. It may support UDMA-66 mode for the drives.

Sorry, I seem to have that mixed up.  It does support UDMA-66 for the
IDE drives.

I'll look at the doc on hdparm further to see if it's worth trying -X66
to get some more speed.

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Re: irDA and Palm IIIx

On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 03:22, Darryl L. Pierce wrote:
> Has anybody setup IR support for synching a Palm (I have a IIIx) with
> their laptop? I've tried but cannot seem to get my irDA system to work.
> I have a Gateway Solo 9300.

Yes!  After much stuffing around i have an IR sync happening with my
Dell Inspiron 8000, kernel 2.4.17 and my Palm Vx.

First step is to have a look at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ for some
notes by someone with the same laptop as you.

You should also have a read of the IR-HOWTO for some background
information.  I have found it to be a little out of date but a good
starting point.

I have only really got it working with the 2.4 kernels as I wanted that
series for better USB support.

You need to enable IrDA support in the kernel (built-in or modules) and
have modules/support built-in for ircomm and irtty.

You also need to install the irda utilities (you need irattach to
connect your IR serial port).

It is worthwhile looking at the linux-irda list's archives (Google will
find it) for other's more specific IR experiences .

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Re: Inspiron 8000 IDE bus speed

On 15 Jan 2002, Simon Wong wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 10:42, Daniel Pittman wrote:
>> On 15 Jan 2002, Simon Wong wrote:
>> > I have noticed on booting that I have a message saying that an IDE
>> > bus speed of 33MHz is being assumed.
>> 
>> That's 33MHz *PCI* bus speed. Even if it says IDE everywhere near it.
> 
> Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.31
> ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with
> idebus=xx

yeah. The "system bus speed" it mentions is the system *PCI* bus. I
think it's stupid, too, but there doesn't seem to be much inclination to
change it.

Maybe Marcello, the 2.4 maintainer, would take a cosmetic patch if you
sent one. :)

>> > As far as I know the i8000 has a 66MHz bus speed.
>> 
>> That's unlikely. It may support UDMA-66 mode for the drives.
> 
> Sorry, I seem to have that mixed up.  It does support UDMA-66 for the
> IDE drives.

*nod*  It's fine; it's one of the more confusing details that tend to
get mixed around by the manufacturers. It's ever worse because it's so
little to do with real performance, too. :)

> I'll look at the doc on hdparm further to see if it's worth trying
> -X66 to get some more speed.

Given that you are using a laptop harddrive[1], you are /very/ unlikely
to see any real performance difference.

Performance on a single hard disk is dominated by seek time for
everything except streaming media.

Running the data transfer faster, such as UDMA-66 vs UDMA-33, generally
doesn't make a real difference to any situation using IDE disks because
one disk can't saturate the IO bus and two disks still lock each other
out, competing for the bandwidth.

So, it really doesn't make much difference. If you are using a UDMA, or
even a DMA, mode, there is little gain to be made by pushing it harder.
There is a (miniscule) theoretical gain using DMA over PIO, but it's not
really measurable.

Enabling 32-bit host transfers and unmasking of the IRQ with hdparm,
when it works[2], can make a difference, though -- especially the later
of those two.

Daniel

Footnotes: 
[1]  It's a safe assumption, on this list, I figure.

[2]  Take backups, because it can corrupt data.

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Re: Inspiron 8000 IDE bus speed


On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 13:08, Daniel Pittman wrote:

> Maybe Marcello, the 2.4 maintainer, would take a cosmetic patch if you
> sent one. :)

Hmmm...maybe...


> Given that you are using a laptop harddrive[1], you are /very/
unlikely
> to see any real performance difference.

Naturally :-)

> 
> Performance on a single hard disk is dominated by seek time for
> everything except streaming media.
> 
> Running the data transfer faster, such as UDMA-66 vs UDMA-33,
generally
> doesn't make a real difference to any situation using IDE disks
because
> one disk can't saturate the IO bus and two disks still lock each other
> out, competing for the bandwidth.
> 
> So, it really doesn't make much difference. If you are using a UDMA,
or
> even a DMA, mode, there is little gain to be made by pushing it
harder.
> There is a (miniscule) theoretical gain using DMA over PIO, but it's
not
> really measurable.
> 
> Enabling 32-bit host transfers and unmasking of the IRQ with hdparm,
> when it works[2], can make a difference, though -- especially the
later
> of those two.

Maybe some time when I'm feeling adventurous.

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good PCMCIA NICs?

2002-01-14 Thread Andy Winnenberg


Hey folks,
I don't know if this has come up before... sorry if it's a repost... I 
was wondering if anyone had advice on good PCMCIA NICs.  I'm setting up 
a cable modem account with a local ISP and I'm not sure what card to 
pick up...

Thanks in advance for any advice on this.


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Re: good PCMCIA NICs?

On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, Andy Winnenberg wrote:

> Hey folks,
> I don't know if this has come up before... sorry if it's a repost... I
> was wondering if anyone had advice on good PCMCIA NICs.  I'm setting up
> a cable modem account with a local ISP and I'm not sure what card to
> pick up...
>
> Thanks in advance for any advice on this.
>
>
>

Hi-

I use a 3com 556 (combo nic and modem) with very good results here with
debian unstable.  I have also used linksys ones I believe with very good
results.  I like the 3com 556 for all round use.  The only bad part with
it is the dongle.  I manage to lose about 3 dongles each year traveling or
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Re: good PCMCIA NICs?

2002-01-14 Thread Martin Rowe


On Tuesday 15 January 2002 3:46 am, Andy Winnenberg wrote:
> Hey folks,
> I don't know if this has come up before... sorry if it's a repost... I
> was wondering if anyone had advice on good PCMCIA NICs.  I'm setting up
> a cable modem account with a local ISP and I'm not sure what card to
> pick up...
>
> Thanks in advance for any advice on this.

I've got an SMC5040TX 10/100 fixed port (nice & sturdy - no dongle) that 
works fine in my Vaio (SR21K). Installed Potato and it picked up the card 
automagically :) Looks like SMC have got an updated model now, the 
5041TX, in case searching on the 5040 doesn't pick up enough.

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Re: good PCMCIA NICs?

2002-01-14 Thread Michael Hothorn


On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, Andy Winnenberg wrote:

> Hey folks,
> I don't know if this has come up before... sorry if it's a repost... I 
> was wondering if anyone had advice on good PCMCIA NICs.  I'm setting up 
> a cable modem account with a local ISP and I'm not sure what card to 
> pick up...
> 
> Thanks in advance for any advice on this.
>
Fiberline 10/100 16 bit works with the N2000 module, and is very cheap. 

bye
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Poweroff on Dell Inspiron 8000

2002-01-14 Thread Sebastien Geffroy


Hi all,

I'm trying to get poweroff working when i do a 'halt -p' with my inspiron 8000. But, 
it don't work.
I compile a 2.4.17 kernel with APM support.

Anyone has arrived to get poweroff working with this laptop ?

Thanks

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Re: radeon mobility

2002-01-14 Thread Sylvain de Crom

>01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 
>2x (rev 02)
The radeon mobility is a M6 card, not a M3.

VAIO GR 214

2002-01-14 Thread Sylvain de Crom

Hello, 

I've installed Debian GNU/Linux on my VAIO GR 214, but the speedstep
doesn't seem to work, If I unplug the AC, apm tells me that the laptop
is still runnig on AC. So I think that APM doesn't work on my VAIO.

Is there a risk of blowing up my laptop by running Linux on it? I can't
seem to check if the CPU temperature protection (a fan?) still works
with Linux, the sensors give no temperature (not in Linux, and there
seems to be no temperature readout posability in windows too), so how
can I check that the laptop doesn't overheat?

I hope someone can help me with this, becouse I'm runnig windows with
cygwin now :-(

[홍보] 네티즌이 만든 검색엔진 아이따따따입니다.

2002-01-14 Thread 아이따따따

Title: 검색엔진 아이따따따

인터넷에는 많은 정보와 그 정보를 찾아주는 검색엔진이 있습니다.
하지만 검색엔진들이 너무나 많은 정보를 제공해 주는 결과 오히려 정보를 찾는데 많은 노력과 시간을
허비하는 결과를 초래하고 있습니다.

이제는 얻을 수 없는 많은 양의 검색결과보다는 신뢰성 있는 정보를 요구하는 시대가 되었습니다.
인터넷에 산재해 있는 사이트 중에는 우리가 꼭 필요한 정보들을 담고 있는 사이트가 많이 있는데,
이 사이트 들을 구분하면 포탈,보탈,허브 사이트라고 합니다.

아이따따따는 이런 사이트를 찾아주는 카테고리 및 키워드 검색엔진입니다.
각 카테고리 별로 신뢰성 있는 엄선된 사이트만 네티즌의 양심으로
등록관리하는 검색엔진이며
귀하께서도 카테고리 담당자가 되실 수 있습니다.

카테고리 담당이 되시면 ㈜아이엔웹의 주식 1주를 무상으로 드리며 pop3 e-mail 계정을 드립니다.
("예" [EMAIL PROTECTED]")
또한,그 카테고리를 관리할 수 있는 권한과 해당 카테고리에 담당자 아이디를 등록합니다.
(등록신청을 하신후 담당관리자로 login 하시면 카테고리를 직접 관리하실 수 있습니다.)

회원가입을 하시고 회원이 되시면 ㈜ 아이엔웹의 주식 1주를 무상으로 드립니다.
인터넷은 네티즌이 주인이고 아이따따따는 네티즌의 것이기 때문입니다!

http://iwww.net (아이따따따)로 방문해 주세요

아이따따따의 이념은 우리 네티즌이 갖고있는 유익한 정보를 서로 공유하고 새로운 네티즌문화를
창출하는것입니다. 귀하께서도 아이따따따의 한 가족이 되어주시길 부탁드립니다.

늘 건강하시고 행복하세요~~~감사합니다.

1일 평균 방문
774,500 hit(2002.01.07)

네티즌 담당 카테고리

745 개

직접 방문하셔서 평가해 주십시오! ==>http://iwww.net
유익한 사이트라고 평가되시면
주위분들에게 알려주시길바랍니다. ( 아이따따따 = iwww )

귀하께 불편을 끼쳐 드렸다면 용서를 바랍니다.

귀하의 메일은 인터넷에서 웹서핑중 취득하였으며 귀하의 어떠한 정보도 갖고있지 않습니다.
다음부터는 인터넷,정보통신,바이러스백신 등 유익한 정보만을 보내드립니다.
아이따따따의 가족이 되시면 전체가족 메일을 통하여 유익한 정보를 받아보실 수 있습니다.
공지사항을 참고하시면 아이따따따 내부사정을 아실 수 있습니다.
바로가서 보기
네티즌의 고견을 수렴하는 공개게시판을 운영중입니다.
바로가서 보기

그래도 수신을 원치 않으실 경우 수신거부를 클릭하십시오!

수신거부

Re: dpkg-source-Bug?

2002-01-14 Thread Frank Mehnert

On Friday 11 January 2002 16:10, Frank Mehnert wrote:

> ist Dir schonmal sowas untergekommen? Neuerdings sehe ich sowas bei
> einigen Packeten (aber nicht bei allen):

Please ignore this Mail, it was misleaded.

Frank
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Inspiron 8000 IDE bus speed

I have noticed on booting that I have a message saying that an IDE bus
speed of 33MHz is being assumed.

As far as I know the i8000 has a 66MHz bus speed.

Has anyone had any experience with appending idebus=66 to the boot
prompt?

Will it damage anything if not true?

Will it make much difference to end performance - I'm assuming only for
intensive disk use but that may speed up my "locate" updates?



-- 
**
* Simon Wong *
**

problem with installing debian on a mac powerbook!

2002-01-14 Thread Herr Mathias Tradinik

please forgive me if these are bad questions, but I'm new in Linux in
general!

I've got a powerbook 190cs
i've downloaded debian from the FTP Mirror in Austria and I've started the
installation!
mac OS shuts down and linux starts, it checks several things.
And then it hangs!
the last outputs are:
RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K
loop: registered device at major 7
ide0: Macintosh Poerbook IDE interface

and thats the point where it still hangs!
I've tried it serveral times every time the same thing
Please help me!
thanks a lot!
Mathias Tradinik

Re: problem with installing debian on a mac powerbook!



Please see if your laptopo is on linux-laptop.net
to see if other people have installed it on you type of laptop



On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, Herr Mathias Tradinik wrote:

>Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 15:12:40 +0100
>From: Herr Mathias Tradinik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org
>Subject: problem with installing debian on a mac powerbook!
>Resent-From: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org
>
>please forgive me if these are bad questions, but I'm new in Linux in
>general!
>
>I've got a powerbook 190cs
>i've downloaded debian from the FTP Mirror in Austria and I've started the
>installation!
>mac OS shuts down and linux starts, it checks several things.
>And then it hangs!
>the last outputs are:
>RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K
>loop: registered device at major 7
>ide0: Macintosh Poerbook IDE interface
>
>and thats the point where it still hangs!
>I've tried it serveral times every time the same thing
>Please help me!
>thanks a lot!
>Mathias Tradinik
>
>
>

Re: problem with installing debian on a mac powerbook!

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On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, Herr Mathias Tradinik wrote:

>Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 15:12:40 +0100
>From: Herr Mathias Tradinik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org
>Subject: problem with installing debian on a mac powerbook!
>Resent-From: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org
>
>please forgive me if these are bad questions, but I'm new in Linux in
>general!
>
>I've got a powerbook 190cs
>i've downloaded debian from the FTP Mirror in Austria and I've started the
>installation!
>mac OS shuts down and linux starts, it checks several things.
>And then it hangs!
>the last outputs are:
>RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K
>loop: registered device at major 7
>ide0: Macintosh Poerbook IDE interface
>
>and thats the point where it still hangs!
>I've tried it serveral times every time the same thing
>Please help me!
>thanks a lot!
>Mathias Tradinik
>
>
>

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2002-01-14 Thread Darryl L. Pierce

Has anybody setup IR support for synching a Palm (I have a IIIx) with
their laptop? I've tried but cannot seem to get my irDA system to work.
I have a Gateway Solo 9300.

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Re: radeon mobility

2002-01-14 Thread Jason Majors

> >Is there a driver for the ati radeon mobility for x 4.1?
> >I set my notebook up using the radeon driver, but X dies complaining that
> >there are no devices available. Switching the Device line to "Standard VGA"
> >brings it up, but at vga16.

> Wat kind of laptop do you have?

Compaq presario 2700.
I'm starting to think that cygwin might be my only option.

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Re: radeon mobility

2002-01-14 Thread Thomas Mueller

Hi Jason!

> > >Is there a driver for the ati radeon mobility for x 4.1?
> > >I set my notebook up using the radeon driver, but X dies complaining that
> > >there are no devices available. Switching the Device line to "Standard VGA"
> > >brings it up, but at vga16.
> > Wat kind of laptop do you have?
> Compaq presario 2700.
> I'm starting to think that cygwin might be my only option.

I ordered a ThinkPad A30 with Radeon Mobility. On LinuxCare there is a
report on how to set up SuSE Linux an that laptop.
Wrong laptop and wrong distro, but they explain how to setup XFree by
hand from cvs:

http://www.linuxcare.com/labs/certs/ibm/thinkpad/a30/suse72-config.epl

If you find a working driver for a debian package it would be nice to
post that here.


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Re: radeon mobility

On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, Thomas Mueller wrote:

> Hi Jason!
>
> > > >Is there a driver for the ati radeon mobility for x 4.1?
> > > >I set my notebook up using the radeon driver, but X dies complaining that
> > > >there are no devices available. Switching the Device line to "Standard 
> > > >VGA"
> > > >brings it up, but at vga16.
> > > Wat kind of laptop do you have?
> > Compaq presario 2700.
> > I'm starting to think that cygwin might be my only option.
>
> I ordered a ThinkPad A30 with Radeon Mobility. On LinuxCare there is a
> report on how to set up SuSE Linux an that laptop.
> Wrong laptop and wrong distro, but they explain how to setup XFree by
> hand from cvs:
>
> http://www.linuxcare.com/labs/certs/ibm/thinkpad/a30/suse72-config.epl
>
> If you find a working driver for a debian package it would be nice to
> post that here.
>
Since I was responsible for the report for the A30, just a couple of notes
about the cert report for the A30...  I tested this with the latest
version of SuSE quite a bit and there was one non-replicable error which
occured often with default kernels the distributions provided.

After compiling X from CVS, the server
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this would go away.  In fact, I never saw this happen after compiling a
new kernel on any of the distributions I tested.

Also, if you have never compiled X from CVS, be prepared for a "funtime"
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where it was when it happened.  So you have to start the whole process all
over again.

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Re: Inspiron 8000 IDE bus speed

On 15 Jan 2002, Simon Wong wrote:
> I have noticed on booting that I have a message saying that an IDE bus
> speed of 33MHz is being assumed.

That's 33MHz *PCI* bus speed. Even if it says IDE everywhere near it.

> As far as I know the i8000 has a 66MHz bus speed.

That's unlikely. It may support UDMA-66 mode for the drives.

> Has anyone had any experience with appending idebus=66 to the boot
> prompt?

Hopefully not...

> Will it damage anything if not true?

...because it will make the IDE driver get all the timings for PIO mode
wrong. I don't know if it's going to damage things if you tell it the
wrong timings, but it's certainly not going to help.

> Will it make much difference to end performance 

No.

> - I'm assuming only for intensive disk use 

No, not even then.

> but that may speed up my "locate" updates?

Certainly not for 'locate' updates, a process which spends it's time
seeking around the disk.

Daniel

-- 
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-- Henry Spencer

Re: Inspiron 8000 IDE bus speed

On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 10:42, Daniel Pittman wrote:
> On 15 Jan 2002, Simon Wong wrote:
> > I have noticed on booting that I have a message saying that an IDE bus
> > speed of 33MHz is being assumed.
> 
> That's 33MHz *PCI* bus speed. Even if it says IDE everywhere near it.

Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.31
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with
idebus=xx

> 
> > As far as I know the i8000 has a 66MHz bus speed.
> 
> That's unlikely. It may support UDMA-66 mode for the drives.

Sorry, I seem to have that mixed up.  It does support UDMA-66 for the
IDE drives.

I'll look at the doc on hdparm further to see if it's worth trying -X66
to get some more speed.

Thanks.

-- 
**
* Simon Wong *
**

Re: irDA and Palm IIIx

On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 03:22, Darryl L. Pierce wrote:
> Has anybody setup IR support for synching a Palm (I have a IIIx) with
> their laptop? I've tried but cannot seem to get my irDA system to work.
> I have a Gateway Solo 9300.

Yes!  After much stuffing around i have an IR sync happening with my
Dell Inspiron 8000, kernel 2.4.17 and my Palm Vx.

First step is to have a look at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ for some
notes by someone with the same laptop as you.

You should also have a read of the IR-HOWTO for some background
information.  I have found it to be a little out of date but a good
starting point.

I have only really got it working with the 2.4 kernels as I wanted that
series for better USB support.

You need to enable IrDA support in the kernel (built-in or modules) and
have modules/support built-in for ircomm and irtty.

You also need to install the irda utilities (you need irattach to
connect your IR serial port).

It is worthwhile looking at the linux-irda list's archives (Google will
find it) for other's more specific IR experiences .

Good luck.

-- 
**
* Simon Wong *
**

Re: Inspiron 8000 IDE bus speed

On 15 Jan 2002, Simon Wong wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 10:42, Daniel Pittman wrote:
>> On 15 Jan 2002, Simon Wong wrote:
>> > I have noticed on booting that I have a message saying that an IDE
>> > bus speed of 33MHz is being assumed.
>> 
>> That's 33MHz *PCI* bus speed. Even if it says IDE everywhere near it.
> 
> Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.31
> ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with
> idebus=xx

yeah. The "system bus speed" it mentions is the system *PCI* bus. I
think it's stupid, too, but there doesn't seem to be much inclination to
change it.

Maybe Marcello, the 2.4 maintainer, would take a cosmetic patch if you
sent one. :)

>> > As far as I know the i8000 has a 66MHz bus speed.
>> 
>> That's unlikely. It may support UDMA-66 mode for the drives.
> 
> Sorry, I seem to have that mixed up.  It does support UDMA-66 for the
> IDE drives.

*nod*  It's fine; it's one of the more confusing details that tend to
get mixed around by the manufacturers. It's ever worse because it's so
little to do with real performance, too. :)

> I'll look at the doc on hdparm further to see if it's worth trying
> -X66 to get some more speed.

Given that you are using a laptop harddrive[1], you are /very/ unlikely
to see any real performance difference.

Performance on a single hard disk is dominated by seek time for
everything except streaming media.

Running the data transfer faster, such as UDMA-66 vs UDMA-33, generally
doesn't make a real difference to any situation using IDE disks because
one disk can't saturate the IO bus and two disks still lock each other
out, competing for the bandwidth.

So, it really doesn't make much difference. If you are using a UDMA, or
even a DMA, mode, there is little gain to be made by pushing it harder.
There is a (miniscule) theoretical gain using DMA over PIO, but it's not
really measurable.

Enabling 32-bit host transfers and unmasking of the IRQ with hdparm,
when it works[2], can make a difference, though -- especially the later
of those two.

Daniel

Footnotes: 
[1]  It's a safe assumption, on this list, I figure.

[2]  Take backups, because it can corrupt data.

-- 
If you cannot get rid of the family skeleton, you may as well make it dance.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Re: Inspiron 8000 IDE bus speed

On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 13:08, Daniel Pittman wrote:

> Maybe Marcello, the 2.4 maintainer, would take a cosmetic patch if you
> sent one. :)

Hmmm...maybe...


> Given that you are using a laptop harddrive[1], you are /very/
unlikely
> to see any real performance difference.

Naturally :-)

> 
> Performance on a single hard disk is dominated by seek time for
> everything except streaming media.
> 
> Running the data transfer faster, such as UDMA-66 vs UDMA-33,
generally
> doesn't make a real difference to any situation using IDE disks
because
> one disk can't saturate the IO bus and two disks still lock each other
> out, competing for the bandwidth.
> 
> So, it really doesn't make much difference. If you are using a UDMA,
or
> even a DMA, mode, there is little gain to be made by pushing it
harder.
> There is a (miniscule) theoretical gain using DMA over PIO, but it's
not
> really measurable.
> 
> Enabling 32-bit host transfers and unmasking of the IRQ with hdparm,
> when it works[2], can make a difference, though -- especially the
later
> of those two.

Maybe some time when I'm feeling adventurous.

Thanks for the info.

-- 
**
* Simon Wong *
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good PCMCIA NICs?

2002-01-14 Thread Andy Winnenberg


Hey folks,
I don't know if this has come up before... sorry if it's a repost... I 
was wondering if anyone had advice on good PCMCIA NICs.  I'm setting up 
a cable modem account with a local ISP and I'm not sure what card to 
pick up...


Thanks in advance for any advice on this.

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