Debian GNU/linux on Toshiba laptops

2000-05-29 Thread Torgeir Hoffmann
I am not very familiar with Debian on laptops, but I have planned to buy a
Toshiba 2180. Do anyone know what problems I will face ? Is this laptop a
good choice ? Where can I find a configuration ? (or can I make one myself
?) And at last what packages is recommended ?

Sincerely,

Torgeir Hoffmann, Norway

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Debian startup and network scripts

2000-05-29 Thread Charles Baker
Can someone point me to a good tutorial or howto about Debian's methods
of booting and starting networking?I reinstalled Potato on my
laptop.  During the install I couldn't dhcp, so I had to borrow and set
a static IP.  I want to be certain that the machine is now doing dhcp,
plus it would be good just to know about these subjects anyway.  If
anyone has a test for dhcp that I can carry out please send that, too.
Thanks.

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Re: Debian GNU/linux on Toshiba laptops

2000-05-29 Thread Arthur H. Edwards
I would like to recommend the website LILAC (LInux on LAptop Computers)
(http://home.snafu.de/wehe/index.html) for general help. 


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On Mon, 29 May 2000, Torgeir Hoffmann wrote:

> I am not very familiar with Debian on laptops, but I have planned to buy a
> Toshiba 2180. Do anyone know what problems I will face ? Is this laptop a
> good choice ? Where can I find a configuration ? (or can I make one myself
> ?) And at last what packages is recommended ?
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Torgeir Hoffmann, Norway
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Re: Debian GNU/linux on Toshiba laptops

2000-05-29 Thread Christian Kuester
On Mon, May 29, 2000 at 05:58:02AM -0400, Torgeir Hoffmann wrote:
> I am not very familiar with Debian on laptops, but I have planned to buy a
> Toshiba 2180. Do anyone know what problems I will face ? Is this laptop a
> good choice ? Where can I find a configuration ? (or can I make one myself
> ?) And at last what packages is recommended ?

Debian 2.1 wasn't a good choice for my Toshiba Satellite 21??.
The Kernel on the bootable CD-ROM does not like my Toshiba NB,
it hangs. Maybe 2.2 isn't affected, i didn't try.


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Re: Debian startup and network scripts

2000-05-29 Thread Alexander Clouter
On Mon, 29 May 2000, Charles Baker wrote:
>
> Can someone point me to a good tutorial or howto about Debian's methods
> of booting and starting networking?
>
if you go to http://www.debian.org/doc/ddp this place is a good start for
debian documentation.  At the bottom I noticed documentation for Network
administrators.

>I reinstalled Potato on my
> laptop.  During the install I couldn't dhcp, so I had to borrow and set
> a static IP.  I want to be certain that the machine is now doing dhcp,
> plus it would be good just to know about these subjects anyway.  If
> anyone has a test for dhcp that I can carry out please send that, too.
> 
well the only test I know of is to plug it in and see if it works!  Just
make sure its not using the same IP number each time, see if you can ping
something and that would be a successfult test in my book.  If the same IP
address is being assigned make sure it isn't actually the static address
you were using.  Also you will have to set up the DNS server's by hand as
I'm not sure how to get dhcpcd to set the DNS servers automagically, or is
this a case of RTFM? ;)

HOWEVER..sometimes I find that my laptop doesn't talk to the dhcpc
server until after a reset.  This could be solved probably by restarting
some network services (and yes I've tried
/etc/init.d/(pcmcia\networking\dhcpcd\xinet) and all have failed) however
I have found only the reset works properly.

When I upgraded to potato I noticed my dhcpcd didn't work either until I
used a static IP to remove the client and then reinstall it.  I think this
is related to the old dhcpc deamon breaking on the 2.2.x kernel.

Alex

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Re: Debian GNU/linux on Toshiba laptops

2000-05-29 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, May 29, 2000 at 05:54:55PM +0200, Christian Kuester wrote:

> Debian 2.1 wasn't a good choice for my Toshiba Satellite 21??.
> The Kernel on the bootable CD-ROM does not like my Toshiba NB,
> it hangs. Maybe 2.2 isn't affected, i didn't try.

Did you try the Tectra kernel (if you have both binary CDs then the
second CD boots with the Tectra kernel)?

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Problems with SAMS Debian 2.1 and Dell Inspiron 7500

2000-05-29 Thread Paul
Hi

Just picked up a copy of the SAMS Installing GNU/Linux book with the copy of
Debian 2.1 on CDRom.

I've created partitions with Partition Magic, the root partition the second
primary partition after Win98, and then an extended partition conaining
further Windows data drives and Linux partitions incl swap part.

The problem comes when installing off CD, I get as far as mounting
partitions and the copy of the kernel starts with the rescue disk image,
which seems to go okay, but it then stops while trying to copy the driver
disk image with the message Floppy Error! The attempt to extract the Driver
Floppy failed. Then the only option is  which takes me back to the
install menu.

I've tried creating the images to floppies and doing it that way but it
fails almost immediately after booting when it requests the rescue disk and
cannot mount the floppy (this I suspect is due to the machine having an
LS120 drive instead of a floppy)

The lap-top itself is PIII 650, 128mb ram, 18gb or so hard drive, dvd rom
(cd compatible), LS120

I'm computer literate (windows and IBM mainframes) but a GNU/Linux virgin.
Any help would be appreciated



RE: Debian startup and network scripts

2000-05-29 Thread Charles Baker
Well, I guess my problem is that I haven't been working w/ my laptop andDebian 
enough.  I was looking every where for the network startup scripts and finally 
remembered that they are in /etc/pcmcia.  I was looking in all the "desktop" 
locations.  I wonder how many times I'll have to do this before I remember?

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Re: HD spindown and fs cache writeback

2000-05-29 Thread Seth Golub

Heather <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>   *  set noatime on filesystems where you don't care about it anyway
>   *  make sure you're not syslogging things you don't care about
>   *  use "noflushd"
>   *  use "mobile-update"
>   *  if there's some process named "sync" murder it and see where
>  its options are found so you can tweak them
>   *  Use "hdparm" to advise your disk controller directly that it's
>  okay to sleep at more desirable intervals.

I did all this a while back and also shut down every other process I
don't strictly need, but no luck.  The drive does spin down
occasionally, but it always spins up again within 30 seconds.  I'm
running kernel 2.2.14.  

A sample from the syslog:

May 28 23:39:25 jetpack noflushd[297]: Spinning down /dev/hda.
May 28 23:39:45 jetpack noflushd[297]: Spinning up /dev/hda after 0 minutes of 
spindown.

The fact that it appears is the syslog at all is rather suspicious.
I wouldn't be surprised if that's the problem, that the changed syslog
buffer gets flushed and the disk spins up to accommodate.  All my logs
are buffered, but I don't know how to get noflushd to stop syslogging.

That would also explain another curiosity: if something is happening
independently and often enough that the drive never stays spun down
for more than 30 seconds, how is it ever idle long enough to be spun
down in the first place?  It seems likely that it's not independent
then, unless something is happening periodically with a period just
longer than the timeout, but that seems rather unlikely.


Elrond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> for sure WindowMaker tries to access its configuration files every
> three seconds or so. 

Wouldn't those files be in the cache then (assuming it's large enough
not to drop them)?



Re: Debian GNU/linux on Toshiba laptops

2000-05-29 Thread Martin Schwenke
> "Christian" == Christian Kuester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Christian> On Mon, May 29, 2000 at 05:58:02AM -0400, Torgeir
Christian> Hoffmann wrote:

>> I am not very familiar with Debian on laptops, but I have
>> planned to buy a Toshiba 2180. Do anyone know what problems I
>> will face ? Is this laptop a good choice ? Where can I find a
>> configuration ? (or can I make one myself ?) And at last what
>> packages is recommended ?

Christian> Debian 2.1 wasn't a good choice for my Toshiba
Christian> Satellite 21??.  The Kernel on the bootable CD-ROM does
Christian> not like my Toshiba NB, it hangs. Maybe 2.2 isn't
Christian> affected, i didn't try.

I have a Toshiba 2650XDVD.  It runs Debian 2.2 (potato).  I originally
installed Debian 2.1 (slink) and upgraded from there.

The only fatal problem I had with Debian 2.1 was with the PCMCIA
stuff.  It hung.  With Debian 2.2, a 2.2.14 (now 2.2.15) kernel and
the latest PCMCIA stuff I've had no real problems.  However, be
careful of stopping PCMCIA services during the upgrade.  This can hang
the machine.

The only other problems I've had are:

* WinModem.  This is a Lucent one, with a binary only driver available
  from http://linmodems.org/.  It is compiled against a Red Hat 2.2.12
  kernel.  I can force load it but it oopses upon disconnect.  Not
  happy!  PCMCIA modem suggested...

* APM.  The Linux APM stuff is getting no messages (such as suspend)
  from the BIOS.  I've tried using the Toshiba Linux Utilities
  (http://www.buzzard.org.uk/toshiba/) to set things up, but I've had
  no success, since they don't seem to be able to talk to my
  machine... 

I haven't tried using DVDs in the DVD drive yet...  :-)

peace & happiness,
martin

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Re: HD spindown and fs cache writeback

2000-05-29 Thread Lee Bradshaw
On Mon, May 29, 2000 at 11:51:52PM +0100, Seth Golub wrote:
> I did all this a while back and also shut down every other process I
> don't strictly need, but no luck.  The drive does spin down
> occasionally, but it always spins up again within 30 seconds.  I'm
> running kernel 2.2.14.  
> 
> A sample from the syslog:
> 
> May 28 23:39:25 jetpack noflushd[297]: Spinning down /dev/hda.
> May 28 23:39:45 jetpack noflushd[297]: Spinning up /dev/hda after 0 minutes 
> of spindown.
> 
> The fact that it appears is the syslog at all is rather suspicious.
> I wouldn't be surprised if that's the problem, that the changed syslog
> buffer gets flushed and the disk spins up to accommodate.  All my logs
> are buffered, but I don't know how to get noflushd to stop syslogging.

Are you using the minus "-" sign on your filenames in syslog.conf?
Try "man syslog.conf" for more info, but basically without the "-"
syslogd syncs the disks after every log message.

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RE: Problems with SAMS Debian 2.1 and Dell Inspiron 7500

2000-05-29 Thread Andrew McRobert
hi

if you're installing off CD, then continue through the installation after
the floppy failure (if possible), it will then be a case of looking for a
LS120 Linux driver and installing it once you have the system up and running
...

A

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To: Debian User Lists
Subject: Problems with SAMS Debian 2.1 and Dell Inspiron 7500


Hi

Just picked up a copy of the SAMS Installing GNU/Linux book with the copy of
Debian 2.1 on CDRom.

I've created partitions with Partition Magic, the root partition the second
primary partition after Win98, and then an extended partition conaining
further Windows data drives and Linux partitions incl swap part.

The problem comes when installing off CD, I get as far as mounting
partitions and the copy of the kernel starts with the rescue disk image,
which seems to go okay, but it then stops while trying to copy the driver
disk image with the message Floppy Error! The attempt to extract the Driver
Floppy failed. Then the only option is  which takes me back to the
install menu.

I've tried creating the images to floppies and doing it that way but it
fails almost immediately after booting when it requests the rescue disk and
cannot mount the floppy (this I suspect is due to the machine having an
LS120 drive instead of a floppy)

The lap-top itself is PIII 650, 128mb ram, 18gb or so hard drive, dvd rom
(cd compatible), LS120

I'm computer literate (windows and IBM mainframes) but a GNU/Linux virgin.
Any help would be appreciated


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