Is anyone else experiencing intermittent Plasma freezes as of very recently?

2016-12-14 Thread Gard Spreemann
Hello,

Some recent package upgrade in Stretch (I'm trying to pin down which)
has caused parts of my Plasma desktop to freeze at seemingly random
intervals. When it happens (every few minutes), all windows continue
to behave normally, and new programs can be started with
alt-F2. However, the desktop area itself, the taskbar and any
notifications become unresponsive. Switching to a console and then
back to X, without doing anything else, makes everything work again
for a while.

This seems to be exactly what is described in a recent Fedora bug [1].

Before I file a bug and investigate further: is anyone else
experiencing the same thing? Does anyone have any idea as to which
upgrade may have caused the problem? I can't believe the update
happened more than a week ago.

Thanks.

(I'm not subscribed to the list).

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1399396


 Best,
 Gard



Re: Is anyone else experiencing intermittent Plasma freezes as of very recently?

2016-12-14 Thread Gard Spreemann
On Wednesday, 14 December 2016 11:55:05 CET Gard Spreemann wrote:
> Before I file a bug and investigate further: is anyone else
> experiencing the same thing? Does anyone have any idea as to which
> upgrade may have caused the problem? I can't believe the update
> happened more than a week ago.

Judging by the Fedora bug and my dpkg.log, the problem started with
the recent Xorg upgrade (2:1.18.4-2 to 2:1.19.0-2). Also, again
judging by the Fedora bug, the problem might only affect nouveau
users.


 Best,
 Gard



Re: Is anyone else experiencing intermittent Plasma freezes as of very recently?

2016-12-14 Thread newbeewan

Le 14/12/2016 à 11:55, Gard Spreemann a écrit :

Hello,

Some recent package upgrade in Stretch (I'm trying to pin down which)
has caused parts of my Plasma desktop to freeze at seemingly random
intervals. When it happens (every few minutes), all windows continue
to behave normally, and new programs can be started with
alt-F2. However, the desktop area itself, the taskbar and any
notifications become unresponsive. Switching to a console and then
back to X, without doing anything else, makes everything work again
for a while.

This seems to be exactly what is described in a recent Fedora bug [1].

Before I file a bug and investigate further: is anyone else
experiencing the same thing? Does anyone have any idea as to which
upgrade may have caused the problem? I can't believe the update
happened more than a week ago.

Thanks.

(I'm not subscribed to the list).

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1399396


  Best,
  Gard


Hi,

I have the same trouble linked to plasma-network-manager applet...

I updated this morning kde packages from unstable and it seem to work well 
until know.

Regards

Mourad




Re: Is anyone else experiencing intermittent Plasma freezes as of very recently?

2016-12-14 Thread bruno zanetti
It's likely https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373131

As a workaround, switching to a VT (i.e Ctlr-Alt-F1) and back (Ctrl-Alt-F7)
temporarily restores the correct behaviour.

Greetings
BZ

2016-12-14 11:55 GMT+01:00 Gard Spreemann :

> Hello,
>
> Some recent package upgrade in Stretch (I'm trying to pin down which)
> has caused parts of my Plasma desktop to freeze at seemingly random
> intervals. When it happens (every few minutes), all windows continue
> to behave normally, and new programs can be started with
> alt-F2. However, the desktop area itself, the taskbar and any
> notifications become unresponsive. Switching to a console and then
> back to X, without doing anything else, makes everything work again
> for a while.
>
> This seems to be exactly what is described in a recent Fedora bug [1].
>
> Before I file a bug and investigate further: is anyone else
> experiencing the same thing? Does anyone have any idea as to which
> upgrade may have caused the problem? I can't believe the update
> happened more than a week ago.
>
> Thanks.
>
> (I'm not subscribed to the list).
>
> [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1399396
>
>
>  Best,
>  Gard
>
>


Re: Re: Is anyone else experiencing intermittent Plasma freezes as of very recently?

2016-12-14 Thread Adriano Vilela Barbosa
I'm having the exact same problem, but on a radeon driver.

In my case, the problem started after an upgrade I did on December
10th, as shown below:

2016-12-10 10:10:08 upgrade ncurses-bin:amd64 6.0+20160917-1 6.0+20161126-1
2016-12-10 10:10:09 upgrade ncurses-base:all 6.0+20160917-1 6.0+20161126-1
2016-12-10 10:10:12 upgrade libncurses5:amd64 6.0+20160917-1 6.0+20161126-1
2016-12-10 10:10:13 upgrade libtinfo5:amd64 6.0+20160917-1 6.0+20161126-1
2016-12-10 10:10:15 upgrade libncursesw5:amd64 6.0+20160917-1 6.0+20161126-1
2016-12-10 10:10:16 upgrade ncurses-term:all 6.0+20160917-1 6.0+20161126-1
2016-12-10 10:10:18 upgrade libavutil55:amd64 7:3.2.1-1 7:3.2.2-1
2016-12-10 10:10:19 upgrade libswresample2:amd64 7:3.2.1-1 7:3.2.2-1
2016-12-10 10:10:20 upgrade libavcodec57:amd64 7:3.2.1-1 7:3.2.2-1
2016-12-10 10:10:22 upgrade libavformat57:amd64 7:3.2.1-1 7:3.2.2-1
2016-12-10 10:10:22 upgrade libavresample3:amd64 7:3.2.1-1 7:3.2.2-1
2016-12-10 10:10:23 upgrade libpostproc54:amd64 7:3.2.1-1 7:3.2.2-1
2016-12-10 10:10:24 upgrade libswscale4:amd64 7:3.2.1-1 7:3.2.2-1
2016-12-10 10:10:26 upgrade libavfilter6:amd64 7:3.2.1-1 7:3.2.2-1
2016-12-10 10:10:27 upgrade libavdevice57:amd64 7:3.2.1-1 7:3.2.2-1
2016-12-10 10:10:27 upgrade ffmpeg:amd64 7:3.2.1-1 7:3.2.2-1
2016-12-10 10:10:28 upgrade libxfont1:amd64 1:1.5.2-1 1:1.5.2-4
2016-12-10 10:10:29 upgrade xserver-common:all 2:1.18.4-2 2:1.19.0-2
2016-12-10 10:10:30 upgrade xserver-xorg-input-evdev:amd64 1:2.10.4-1
1:2.10.4-1+b1
2016-12-10 10:10:31 upgrade xserver-xorg-video-radeon:amd64 1:7.8.0-1
1:7.8.0-1+b1
2016-12-10 10:10:32 upgrade xserver-xorg-video-ati:amd64 1:7.8.0-1 1:7.8.0-1+b1
2016-12-10 10:10:32 upgrade xserver-xorg-video-mach64:amd64 6.9.5-1+b1
6.9.5-1+b2
2016-12-10 10:10:33 upgrade xserver-xorg-video-tdfx:amd64 1:1.4.6-2 1:1.4.6-2+b1
2016-12-10 10:10:34 upgrade xserver-xorg-video-cirrus:amd64
1:1.5.3-1+b1 1:1.5.3-1+b2
2016-12-10 10:10:34 upgrade xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu:amd64 1.2.0-1 1.2.0-1+b1
2016-12-10 10:10:35 upgrade xserver-xorg-video-dummy:amd64
1:0.3.7-1+b5 1:0.3.7-1+b6
2016-12-10 10:10:36 upgrade xserver-xorg-video-vesa:amd64 1:2.3.4-1+b1
1:2.3.4-1+b2
2016-12-10 10:10:36 upgrade xserver-xorg-video-trident:amd64 1:1.3.7-2
1:1.3.7-2+b1
2016-12-10 10:10:37 upgrade xserver-xorg-video-vmware:amd64 1:13.2.1-1
1:13.2.1-1+b1
2016-12-10 10:10:38 upgrade xserver-xorg-video-neomagic:amd64
1:1.2.9-1+b1 1:1.2.9-1+b2
2016-12-10 10:10:38 upgrade xserver-xorg-video-mga:amd64 1:1.6.4-2 1:1.6.4-2+b1
2016-12-10 10:10:39 upgrade xserver-xorg-video-savage:amd64 1:2.3.8-2
1:2.3.8-2+b1
2016-12-10 10:10:40 upgrade xserver-xorg-video-fbdev:amd64
1:0.4.4-1+b4 1:0.4.4-1+b5
2016-12-10 10:10:40 upgrade xserver-xorg-video-nouveau:amd64
1:1.0.13-1 1:1.0.13-1+b1
2016-12-10 10:10:41 upgrade xserver-xorg-video-qxl:amd64 0.1.4-3+b1
0.1.4+20161126git4d7160c-1
2016-12-10 10:10:42 upgrade xserver-xorg-video-r128:amd64 6.10.1-2 6.10.1-2+b1
2016-12-10 10:10:42 upgrade xserver-xorg-video-intel:amd64
2:2.99.917+git20161105-1 2:2.99.917+git20161105-1+b1
2016-12-10 10:10:44 upgrade xserver-xorg-input-mouse:amd64 1:1.9.2-1
1:1.9.2-1+b1
2016-12-10 10:10:44 upgrade xserver-xorg-input-wacom:amd64 0.33.0-1 0.33.0-1+b1
2016-12-10 10:10:45 upgrade xserver-xorg-input-void:amd64 1:1.4.1-1+b1
1:1.4.1-1+b2
2016-12-10 10:10:46 upgrade xserver-xorg-input-libinput:amd64 0.22.0-1
0.22.0-1+b1
2016-12-10 10:10:46 upgrade xserver-xorg-core:amd64 2:1.18.4-2 2:1.19.0-2
2016-12-10 10:10:48 upgrade xserver-xorg-input-synaptics:amd64 1.9.0-1
1.9.0-1+b1

>From the log above (excerpted from /var/log/dpkg.log), I'm pretty sure
the problem came from an xserver-xorg upgrade.

I just tried the solution suggested on comment #3 at the link below
and haven't seen the problem since then (it's been less than one hour
though).

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/lags-and-freezes-on-ati-rs880-%5Bradeon-hd-4290%5D-with-new-xf86-video-ati-7-8-0-a-4175594206/

Cheers,

Adriano



Re: Is anyone else experiencing intermittent Plasma freezes as of very recently?

2016-12-14 Thread Richard Newton
Yes, I am having similar problems with both radeon and nvidia graphic
drivers.
The short answer is I have erratic problems and can not find the source. My
systems lock up completely Alt F2 or switching to virtual terminals will
not work. I have also tried clean installs which seemed to work until
moments ago. The one thing that appears to work is the removal of the
google-chrome 55.0.2883.87 ~/.config/google-chrome folder. Removal at least
lets me login and start the cycle again.  I have machines with chrome
pinned to an older version that do not (yet) have any problems.

Frustrated,
Rich

On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 3:19 AM, Gard Spreemann 
wrote:

> On Wednesday, 14 December 2016 11:55:05 CET Gard Spreemann wrote:
> > Before I file a bug and investigate further: is anyone else
> > experiencing the same thing? Does anyone have any idea as to which
> > upgrade may have caused the problem? I can't believe the update
> > happened more than a week ago.
>
> Judging by the Fedora bug and my dpkg.log, the problem started with
> the recent Xorg upgrade (2:1.18.4-2 to 2:1.19.0-2). Also, again
> judging by the Fedora bug, the problem might only affect nouveau
> users.
>
>
>  Best,
>  Gard
>
>


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Re: Is anyone else experiencing intermittent Plasma freezes as of very recently?

2016-12-14 Thread newbeewan

Le 14/12/2016 à 14:27, newbee...@nativobject.net a écrit :

Le 14/12/2016 à 11:55, Gard Spreemann a écrit :

Hello,

Some recent package upgrade in Stretch (I'm trying to pin down which)
has caused parts of my Plasma desktop to freeze at seemingly random
intervals. When it happens (every few minutes), all windows continue
to behave normally, and new programs can be started with
alt-F2. However, the desktop area itself, the taskbar and any
notifications become unresponsive. Switching to a console and then
back to X, without doing anything else, makes everything work again
for a while.

This seems to be exactly what is described in a recent Fedora bug [1].

Before I file a bug and investigate further: is anyone else
experiencing the same thing? Does anyone have any idea as to which
upgrade may have caused the problem? I can't believe the update
happened more than a week ago.

Thanks.

(I'm not subscribed to the list).

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1399396


  Best,
  Gard


Hi,

I have the same trouble linked to plasma-network-manager applet...

I updated this morning kde packages from unstable and it seem to work well 
until know.

Regards

Mourad

Unfortunatly, after a day without freezing it start again...

It think know it is linked to the spinning circle shown when something happen...

My graphic card is an Intel Haswell.

Regards

Mourad



Re: Is anyone else experiencing intermittent Plasma freezes as of very recently?

2016-12-14 Thread Borden Rhodes
If it helps, after an X server update on Sunday, my computer took
almost fifteen minutes to start SDDM. Turns out that there is a
problem with xserver-xorg-input-wacom stalling the whole thing. Notes
on the X server PTS say that there's a transition under way to the
next X server. It's possible that there are some inter-library
breakages which may have broken my Wacom driver and may be breaking
your KDE.

On 14 December 2016 at 17:11,   wrote:
> Le 14/12/2016 à 14:27, newbee...@nativobject.net a écrit :
>>
>> Le 14/12/2016 à 11:55, Gard Spreemann a écrit :
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Some recent package upgrade in Stretch (I'm trying to pin down which)
>>> has caused parts of my Plasma desktop to freeze at seemingly random
>>> intervals. When it happens (every few minutes), all windows continue
>>> to behave normally, and new programs can be started with
>>> alt-F2. However, the desktop area itself, the taskbar and any
>>> notifications become unresponsive. Switching to a console and then
>>> back to X, without doing anything else, makes everything work again
>>> for a while.
>>>
>>> This seems to be exactly what is described in a recent Fedora bug [1].
>>>
>>> Before I file a bug and investigate further: is anyone else
>>> experiencing the same thing? Does anyone have any idea as to which
>>> upgrade may have caused the problem? I can't believe the update
>>> happened more than a week ago.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> (I'm not subscribed to the list).
>>>
>>> [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1399396
>>>
>>>
>>>   Best,
>>>   Gard
>>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have the same trouble linked to plasma-network-manager applet...
>>
>> I updated this morning kde packages from unstable and it seem to work well
>> until know.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Mourad
>
> Unfortunatly, after a day without freezing it start again...
>
> It think know it is linked to the spinning circle shown when something
> happen...
>
> My graphic card is an Intel Haswell.
>
> Regards
>
> Mourad
>