[Bug 1013] confirm: imap: passwordless auth or different password wished

2011-02-13 Thread drift
http://bugs.skolelinux.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1013


Andreas B. Mundt  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|RESOLVED
 Resolution||REMIND




--- Comment #10 from Andreas B. Mundt   2011-02-13 09:34:34 
---
(In reply to comment #9)
> Andreas (M.), whats the status on this?
> 

Yeah, should work fine with Kerberos now (imap- and smtp- ticket).  The (user-)
configuration still needs documentation. There is room for improvements
(address rewriting, external use, automatic configuration for the user out of
the box, etc.), but the initial problem (saving the system password in the
config file of the mail client) is fixed.

Switch bug to REMIND to keep mail system improvements in mind.

Regards,
   Andi


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Re: r72930 - trunk/src/debian-edu-config/debian

2011-02-13 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Sonntag, 13. Februar 2011, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> It is technically not very hard.  It would involve asking a debconf
> question before pkgsel is running in d-i, and setting the
> tasksel/desktop debconf value.  This is the same operation that is
> done based on the desktop=kde/gnome kernel argument used to select
> gnome vs. kde vs xfce vs ... at the moment.

Thats what we thought at first too. Sadly powerdns and bind9 also need 
different values (!) for the cNAMERecord attribute... 

> The problematic part is explaining to teachers installing Debian Edu
> for the first time what the options mean and why they should be forced
> to select one of them.  Perhaps it only should show up in
> debian-edu-expert installation mode?

Totally, if at all. The default should be bind and thats what should be 
documented and taught. 

When we suggested this option we were rather thinking about giving the 
Extremadura deployment a means to easily go with powerdns - but maybe they 
dont need it?


cheers,
Holger


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Bug#602863: from bind9 to powerdns and back to bind9

2011-02-13 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

during the Debian Edu meeting here in Zweibrücken we discussed #602863 and how 
to solve it. I've asked about 15 people what they'd think about us previously 
using bind9 (until and including etch), then moving to powerdns (in lenny) 
and then switching back to bind9 in squeeze. Everybody except two people were 
_enthusiastic_ about the idea, one person wanted to stay neutral and one 
neither liked bind9 nor powerdns (and suggested dnsmasq which appearantly 
also has ldap support).

So we decided to switch back to bind9 to solve #602863.

And we still seek feedback and comments on this!

This was done in svn for the debian-edu and debian-edu-config packages in 
r72928-72930:

  * Switch from pdns to bind and ldap2zone.  This enables management of
hosts with GOsa and has been done to enable further testing. Obviously
it could be reverted and needs to be agreed on.  Also needs
documentation if kept for the release. Add debian/TODO.Squeeze. 

debian/TODO.Squeeze is kept in debian-edu-config and reads:

* cf.pdns for pdns has been kept for easier reverting back to pdns.
  Or is this useful for users of pdns too (luis)?
  There were also thoughts about an install option (like gnome instead of kde)
  though this aint that easy probably, as it also involves the ldap ui...
* Some extra attributes (objectClass: domainRelatedObject i.e.
  associateddomain) in gosa-server.ldif have also been kept, they
  probably conflict with making additions/changes in GOsa and need to
  be removed if we want to keep bind.

Currently it seems we have broken the main server installation with this, we 
are working on fixing this, but due to traveling and the work week starting 
tomorrow this might take a few days. Stay tuned :-)


cheers,
Holger


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Re: r72930 - trunk/src/debian-edu-config/debian

2011-02-13 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Holger Levsen]
> Thats what we thought at first too. Sadly powerdns and bind9 also
> need different values (!) for the cNAMERecord attribute...

Your comment was about kde vs. gnome, right?  That was what I was
answering.

The rest of your comment now seem to be about powerdns vs. bind, which
was not what I was discussing.  It is as you say, a lot harder.

I do not really thing anyone care much about bind vs. powerdns.  I
know I do not.  I do on the other hand care about delayed vs. direct
DNS updates, where powerdns give us direct DNS updates after updating
LDAP, while bind give us delayed updates.  I would very much like to
have LDAP changes take effect imedidately in DNS.

Happy hacking,
-- 
Petter Reinholdtsen


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debian-edu_0.852~svn72937_amd64.changes ACCEPTED

2011-02-13 Thread Skolelinux archive Installer

Accepted:
education-astronomy_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
  to pool/local/d/debian-edu/education-astronomy_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
education-chemistry_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
  to pool/local/d/debian-edu/education-chemistry_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
education-common_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
  to pool/local/d/debian-edu/education-common_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
education-desktop-gnome_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
  to pool/local/d/debian-edu/education-desktop-gnome_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
education-desktop-kde_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
  to pool/local/d/debian-edu/education-desktop-kde_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
education-desktop-lxde_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
  to pool/local/d/debian-edu/education-desktop-lxde_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
education-desktop-other_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
  to pool/local/d/debian-edu/education-desktop-other_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
education-desktop-sugar_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
  to pool/local/d/debian-edu/education-desktop-sugar_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
education-development_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
  to pool/local/d/debian-edu/education-development_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
education-electronics_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
  to pool/local/d/debian-edu/education-electronics_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
education-geography_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
  to pool/local/d/debian-edu/education-geography_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
education-graphics_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
  to pool/local/d/debian-edu/education-graphics_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
education-language_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
  to pool/local/d/debian-edu/education-language_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
education-laptop_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
  to pool/local/d/debian-edu/education-laptop_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
education-logic-games_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
  to pool/local/d/debian-edu/education-logic-games_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
education-main-server_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
  to pool/local/d/debian-edu/education-main-server_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
education-mathematics_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
  to pool/local/d/debian-edu/education-mathematics_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
education-menus_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
  to pool/local/d/debian-edu/education-menus_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
education-misc_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
  to pool/local/d/debian-edu/education-misc_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
education-music_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
  to pool/local/d/debian-edu/education-music_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
education-networked_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
  to pool/local/d/debian-edu/education-networked_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
education-physics_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
  to pool/local/d/debian-edu/education-physics_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
education-services_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
  to pool/local/d/debian-edu/education-services_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
education-standalone_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
  to pool/local/d/debian-edu/education-standalone_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
education-tasks_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
  to pool/local/d/debian-edu/education-tasks_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
education-thin-client-server_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
  to 
pool/local/d/debian-edu/education-thin-client-server_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
education-thin-client_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
  to pool/local/d/debian-edu/education-thin-client_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
education-workstation_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb
  to pool/local/d/debian-edu/education-workstation_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb


Override entries for your package:
education-astronomy_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb - extra local/misc
education-chemistry_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb - extra local/misc
education-common_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb - extra local/misc
education-desktop-gnome_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb - extra local/gnome
education-desktop-kde_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb - extra local/kde
education-desktop-lxde_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb - extra local/x11
education-desktop-other_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb - extra local/misc
education-desktop-sugar_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb - extra local/x11
education-development_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb - extra local/misc
education-electronics_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb - extra local/misc
education-geography_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb - extra local/misc
education-graphics_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb - extra local/misc
education-language_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb - extra local/misc
education-laptop_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb - extra local/misc
education-logic-games_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb - extra local/misc
education-main-server_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb - extra local/misc
education-mathematics_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb - extra local/misc
education-menus_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb - extra local/misc
education-misc_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb - extra local/misc
education-music_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb - extra local/misc
education-networked_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb - extra local/misc
education-physics_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb - extra local/misc
education-services_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb - extra local/misc
education-standalone_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb - extra local/misc
education-tasks_0.852~svn72937_amd64.deb - extra local

Re: r72930 - trunk/src/debian-edu-config/debian

2011-02-13 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Sonntag, 13. Februar 2011, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> Your comment was about kde vs. gnome, right?  

no.

> LDAP, while bind give us delayed updates.  I would very much like to
> have LDAP changes take effect imedidately in DNS.

If you (or anybody else) needs undelayed updates, get a root shell and 
enter "ldap2bind". Easy and also easy to communicate to and be done by 
supporter or teachers. (Thats what the supporters and teachers said here.)


cheers,
Holger


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[Bug 1379] etch: Ldap Crash with to many files open

2011-02-13 Thread drift
http://bugs.skolelinux.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1379


Klaus Ade Johnstad  changed:

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 CC||kl...@skolelinux.no




--- Comment #14 from Klaus Ade Johnstad   2011-02-13 
13:17:40 ---
I see this now and then, especially in bigger installations (few thousand users
in ldap), the fix is to add something like "ulimit -n 4096" to
/etc/default/slapd


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Bug#602859: netgroup support for gosa

2011-02-13 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

during the meeting in Zweibrücken we also discussed the need to be able to 
manage netgroups with gosa and thankfully Mike volunteered to work on this.
Yay! 


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Bug#613167: kerberized nfs4 mounting

2011-02-13 Thread Holger Levsen
package: debian-edu-config
severity: wishlist

Hi,

to ease maintainance (no more adding of workstations to be able to access home 
shares) and to improve security, it would be desirable to use kerberized nfs4 
mounting. 

This bug is for tracking this issue, ie by documenting the needed steps.

It's a wishlist feature and we can certainly release squeeze without. (It 
needs some time to implement and test properly.)


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Holger


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experiences with ltsp thin clients and kde4

2011-02-13 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

does anybody already have experiences with running full classrooms of thin 
clients with kde4? 

Klaus Ade believes its not feasable to do this (even on very powerful server 
hardware), as the UI feels very slow once multiple users are working with it. 

But Klaus Ade only tested it and this didnt convince him. Does someone 
actually *use* such a setup (kde4 + thin clients) in production?

The solution is probably to switch to LXDE, though IMO we shouldnt hold the 
release for it. Doing the switch manually is easy as its document it. 


cheers, 
Holger


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[Bug 1379] etch: Ldap Crash with to many files open

2011-02-13 Thread drift
http://bugs.skolelinux.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1379


Holger Levsen  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED
 Resolution|WORKSFORME  |
Version|etch-release-3.0r0  |squeeze




--- Comment #15 from Holger Levsen   2011-02-13 14:38:27 
---
klaus wrote:
# the fix is to add something like "ulimit -n 4096" to
# /etc/default/slapd

shoudlnt we do this by default then?


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Bug#613214: use libpam-krb5 for uidNumbers greater than 10000 only (as opposed to the default > 1000)

2011-02-13 Thread Mike Gabriel

Package: debian-edu-config
Version: 1.446~svn72930
Severity: minor
Tags: squeeze


For integration of Kerberos5 libpam-krb5 needs to be tweaked in
a way that it will only apply krb5 pam rules to uidNumbers greater than
1 (presuming that LDAP users on the Tjener start with 1).

The current libpam-krb5 package hard-codes uidNumber = 1000 in

  /usr/share/pam-configs/krb5

The tweak probably has to be applied via a cfengine script. However, there
exists an optional ActiveDirectory integration for Debian Edu which hacks the
/etc/pam.d/common-* files. Thus, fixing this issue should try to be compliant
with the changes performed by

   
/share/debian-edu-config/tools/debian-edu-winbind




-- System Information:
Debian Release: 6.0
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages debian-edu-config depends on:
ii  base-files   6.0 Debian base system  
miscellaneous f
ii  bind9-host [host]1:9.7.2.dfsg.P3-1.1 Version of 'host' bundled  
with BIN
ii  cfengine22.2.10-2Tool for configuring and  
maintaini
ii  debconf [debconf-2.0 1.5.36.1Debian configuration  
management sy

ii  debconf-utils1.5.36.1debconf utilities
ii  debian-edu-artwork   0.0.32-2Debian Edu themes and artwork
ii  desktop-profiles 1.4.15+nmu1 framework for setting up  
desktop p

ii  discover 2.1.2-5 hardware identification system
ii  education-tasks  0.852~svn72130  Debian Edu tasks for tasksel
ii  fping2.4b2-to-ipv6-16.1  sends ICMP ECHO_REQUEST  
packets to

ii  host 1:9.7.2.dfsg.P3-1.1 Transitional package
ii  ldap-utils   2.4.23-7OpenLDAP utilities
ii  libconfig-inifiles-p 2.52-1  Read .ini-style  
configuration file
ii  libfilesys-df-perl   0.92-3+b1   Module to obtain  
filesystem disk s

ii  libhtml-fromtext-per 2.05-5.1Mark up text as HTML
ii  libio-socket-ssl-per 1.33-1+squeeze1 Perl module implementing  
object or
ii  libjavascript-perl   1.16-3  module for executing  
embedded Java

ii  libnet-ldap-perl 1:0.4001-2  client interface to LDAP servers
ii  libnet-netmask-perl  1.9015-4parse, manipulate and  
lookup IP ne

ii  libterm-readkey-perl 2.30-4  A perl module for simple terminal
ii  libtext-unaccent-per 1.08-1+b1   provides functions to  
remove accen
ii  lsb-base 3.2-23.2squeeze1Linux Standard Base 3.2  
init scrip
ii  mime-support 3.48-1  MIME files 'mime.types' &  
'mailcap

ii  net-tools1.60-23 The NET-3 networking toolkit
ii  ng-utils 0.7-1   Tool to access netgroups from the
ii  openssl  0.9.8o-4Secure Socket Layer (SSL)  
binary a

ii  patch2.6-2   Apply a diff file to an original
ii  python-notify0.1.1-2+b2  Python bindings for libnotify
ii  ssl-cert 1.0.28  simple debconf wrapper  
for OpenSSL
ii  tftp 0.17-18 Trivial file transfer  
protocol cli


Versions of packages debian-edu-config recommends:
ii  ddccontrol 0.4.2-6   a program to control  
monitor param
ii  libnotify-bin  0.5.0-2   sends desktop  
notifications to a n

ii  lsof   4.81.dfsg.1-1 List open files
ii  memtest86+ 4.10-1.1  thorough real-mode memory tester
ii  resolvconf 1.46  name server information handler
ii  syslinux   2:4.02+dfsg-7 collection of boot loaders

Versions of packages debian-edu-config suggests:
ii  atftpd  0.7.dfsg-9.1 advanced TFTP server

-- debconf information:
  debian-edu-config/kdc-password: (password omitted)
  debian-edu-config/kdc-password-again: (password omitted)
* debian-edu-config/update-hostname: false
  debian-edu-config/enable-nat: false
  debian-edu-config/kdc-password-empty:
  debian-edu-config/kdc-password-mismatch:




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on releasing Debian Edu Squeeze in 6.0.1, 2 or 3? or 4? or 2012?

2011-02-13 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

during the Debian Edu meeting in Zweibrücken in Rheinland-Pfalz we obviously 
also talked about the upcoming Debian Edu Squeeze release. The consenus was, 
that it should happen rather soon. No new features should be added anymore, 
instead we should try to release in March or April (2011).

If we keep the changes to the debian-edu, debian-edu-config and 
debian-edu-install sources packages, I believe the Debian stable release 
managers would accept those into squeeze and we can release as part of a 
Debian pointrelease. Those point releases will be versioned as 6.0.1, 6.0.2, 
6.0.3, etc., just like in Lenny. 6.0.1 is scheduled to be released in a 
month.

I think it would be overly optimistic to assume we will manage to release with 
6.0.1, but 6.0.2 or 6.0.3 should entirely be possible, if we restrict our 
changes (compared to whats in squeeze-test now) to the minimum. 

The input from the developers and users at the Zweibrücken meeting IME was 
that this was very desirable. 

Wheezy (the successor of Debian Squeeze) is scheduled to be released in less 
than 24 months, and for the last three releases Debian managed to release a 
little quicker (!) than once every two years, so I'm quite confident this 
will happen. 

And in 2012 I would rather see us develop for Wheezy than still struggling 
with releasing our Squeeze! To say it more positivly: at the moment, we (and 
Debian too) gained momentum and I would love to keep that!


As you probably noticed I went through a lot of bugs 
http://bugs.skolelinux.org and categorized them like for the last two 
releases:

prio 1 = urgent problem, needs to be fixed now
prio 2 = must be fixed for the release
prio 3 = normal severity
prio 4 = minor issue
prio 5 = enhancement / wishlist

From what I know from that and from 
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Status/Squeeze there are 4 big problems 
still to solve:

#602863  [debian-edu-config] manage dhcp+dns with gosa
#602859  [debian-edu-config] (gosa) netgroup support 
#606016  [debian-edu] indexing takes a minute using all CPU and creates 100mb 
data
and: updating the documentation for squeeze.

If you know about more issues (with whatever severity), PLEASE do file bugs. 
It might be that we'll only be able to fix them for Wheezy, but the earlier 
those are reported the better. I'd also prefer if bugs would be filed in the 
Debian BTS, as it's better integrated into several workflows and tracking 
systems.

So, let's squeze now!


cheers,
Holger


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Bug#602863: from bind9 to powerdns and back to bind9

2011-02-13 Thread L. Redrejo
El dom, 13-02-2011 a las 12:45 +0100, Holger Levsen escribió:
> Hi,
> 
> during the Debian Edu meeting here in Zweibrücken we discussed #602863 and 
> how 
> to solve it. I've asked about 15 people what they'd think about us previously 
> using bind9 (until and including etch), then moving to powerdns (in lenny) 
> and then switching back to bind9 in squeeze. Everybody except two people were 
> _enthusiastic_ about the idea, one person wanted to stay neutral and one 
> neither liked bind9 nor powerdns (and suggested dnsmasq which appearantly 
> also has ldap support).
> 
> So we decided to switch back to bind9 to solve #602863.
> 
> And we still seek feedback and comments on this!
> 

Obviously, you're free to do it. From my point of view, these are not
good news.
In the future, in our schools we're not going to switch back to use
bind9 and will keep the current setup with pdns.
Having all the infraestructure and information stored in ldap is very
safe when you have several thousands of ltsp servers and don't want to
manually modify configuration files whenever a new server is placed or
moved. More things are in ldap, less things we have to touch.

#602863 is not important for us. Our servers still remain in lenny and
our plans to move to squeeze (or wheeze) include the development of a
lwat replacement. We need to develop it to fit our needs as we have to
create accounts massively every beginning of the course using as source
an external application where our ministry manages all the educational
data for every citizen. So, neither gosa, cipux or lwat can fulfill our
needs, and a custom development is the only solution I can see.

So, as we all use Debian and can touch everything, don't take this as a
negative vote. We can do all the changes we need to adjust the
installation to our setup. 
Currently we change some things, and in the future more changes will be
needed, including removal of the debian-edu-config package. 
Fortunately, our release cycle for the school servers setup is more than
two years, so we have time to adapt our setups.


Regards.


> This was done in svn for the debian-edu and debian-edu-config packages in 
> r72928-72930:
> 
>   * Switch from pdns to bind and ldap2zone.  This enables management of
> hosts with GOsa and has been done to enable further testing. Obviously
> it could be reverted and needs to be agreed on.  Also needs
> documentation if kept for the release. Add debian/TODO.Squeeze. 
> 
> debian/TODO.Squeeze is kept in debian-edu-config and reads:
> 
> * cf.pdns for pdns has been kept for easier reverting back to pdns.
>   Or is this useful for users of pdns too (luis)?
>   There were also thoughts about an install option (like gnome instead of kde)
>   though this aint that easy probably, as it also involves the ldap ui...
> * Some extra attributes (objectClass: domainRelatedObject i.e.
>   associateddomain) in gosa-server.ldif have also been kept, they
>   probably conflict with making additions/changes in GOsa and need to
>   be removed if we want to keep bind.
> 
> Currently it seems we have broken the main server installation with this, we 
> are working on fixing this, but due to traveling and the work week starting 
> tomorrow this might take a few days. Stay tuned :-)
> 
> 
> cheers,
>   Holger


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Bug#602863: from bind9 to powerdns and back to bind9

2011-02-13 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[José L. Redrejo Rodríguez]
> Obviously, you're free to do it. From my point of view, these are
> not good news.  In the future, in our schools we're not going to
> switch back to use bind9 and will keep the current setup with pdns.
> Having all the infraestructure and information stored in ldap is
> very safe when you have several thousands of ltsp servers and don't
> want to manually modify configuration files whenever a new server is
> placed or moved. More things are in ldap, less things we have to
> touch.

Note that DNS info will still be in LDAP, also with bind9.  But the
LDAP schema used is differet with bind9 than with powerdns.  The LDAP
info is transfered to bind9 config files using the ldap2zone package.

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Bug#602863: from bind9 to powerdns and back to bind9

2011-02-13 Thread L. Redrejo
El dom, 13-02-2011 a las 17:09 +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen escribió:
> [José L. Redrejo Rodríguez]
> > Obviously, you're free to do it. From my point of view, these are
> > not good news.  In the future, in our schools we're not going to
> > switch back to use bind9 and will keep the current setup with pdns.
> > Having all the infraestructure and information stored in ldap is
> > very safe when you have several thousands of ltsp servers and don't
> > want to manually modify configuration files whenever a new server is
> > placed or moved. More things are in ldap, less things we have to
> > touch.
> 
> Note that DNS info will still be in LDAP, also with bind9.  But the
> LDAP schema used is differet with bind9 than with powerdns.  The LDAP
> info is transfered to bind9 config files using the ldap2zone package.
> 

Sorry I haven't had time enouth to even take a look to these changes.
Will ldap2zone remove previous zones in a bind configuration. I.E. not
installing a new server, but moving it from a classroom to another or
from a school to another, will it remove previous configs and create new
ones?

Anyway, at the end of it, I don't see any benefit from going back to
bind9 and having to change the configurations again, and having to train
the technical stuff again...
If the change is due only to an admin tool, and not because the  dns
solution is better, I can't see a reason to change, as I can not use
that admin tool.



> Happy hacking,


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Bug#613214: use libpam-krb5 for uidNumbers greater than 10000 only (as opposed to the default > 1000)

2011-02-13 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Mike Gabriel]
> For integration of Kerberos5 libpam-krb5 needs to be tweaked in a
> way that it will only apply krb5 pam rules to uidNumbers greater
> than 1 (presuming that LDAP users on the Tjener start with
> 1).

Why?  UIDs >= 1000 are supposed to be in LDAP, while the range from
500 to 1000 are supposed to be local users.  So for me, the current
default in libpapm-krb5 seem correct.

Btw, it might be an alternative to use sssd instead of libpam-krb5.

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Bug#613214: use libpam-krb5 for uidNumbers greater than 10000 only (as opposed to the default > 1000)

2011-02-13 Thread Mike Gabriel

Hi Per,

On So 13 Feb 2011 18:31:02 CET Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:


[Mike Gabriel]

For integration of Kerberos5 libpam-krb5 needs to be tweaked in a
way that it will only apply krb5 pam rules to uidNumbers greater
than 1 (presuming that LDAP users on the Tjener start with
1).


Why?  UIDs >= 1000 are supposed to be in LDAP, while the range from
500 to 1000 are supposed to be local users.  So for me, the current
default in libpapm-krb5 seem correct.


My DebianEdu squeeze (which was a DVD snapshot install from today -  
20110213) adds local users starting with uidNumber=1000.


Thus, user creation in LDAP and in /etc/passwd start off with the same  
uidNumber. I recommend setting the first LDAP uidNumber to a higher  
value (like 1 or so).



Btw, it might be an alternative to use sssd instead of libpam-krb5.


This is another topic, but thanks for the hint. I / we will take a look...

Thanks and greets from post-Zweibrücken...
Mike


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Bug#613214: use libpam-krb5 for uidNumbers greater than 10000 only (as opposed to the default > 1000)

2011-02-13 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Mike Gabriel]
> My DebianEdu squeeze (which was a DVD snapshot install from today -
> 20110213) adds local users starting with uidNumber=1000.
> 
> Thus, user creation in LDAP and in /etc/passwd start off with the
> same uidNumber. I recommend setting the first LDAP uidNumber to a
> higher value (like 1 or so).

Then I suspect you are doing it wrong.  If you want a local user, you
need to add --uid 500 or so to adduser.  :)

If you want adduser to create local users by default, ie with uids in
the 500-1000 range, you should probably edit /etc/adduser.conf to
change its behaviour.  These are the relevant settings:

# FIRST_[GU]ID to LAST_[GU]ID inclusive is the range of UIDs of dynamically
# allocated user accounts/groups.
FIRST_UID=1000
LAST_UID=2

FIRST_GID=1000
LAST_GID=2

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Bug#613214: use libpam-krb5 for uidNumbers greater than 10000 only (as opposed to the default > 1000)

2011-02-13 Thread Mike Gabriel

Hi Petter,

On So 13 Feb 2011 19:47:21 CET Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:


[Mike Gabriel]

My DebianEdu squeeze (which was a DVD snapshot install from today -
20110213) adds local users starting with uidNumber=1000.

Thus, user creation in LDAP and in /etc/passwd start off with the
same uidNumber. I recommend setting the first LDAP uidNumber to a
higher value (like 1 or so).


Then I suspect you are doing it wrong.  If you want a local user, you
need to add --uid 500 or so to adduser.  :)


Wrong is a matter of context here. I just use the Debian defaults and  
they uidNumbers>=1000 for /etc/passwd... Skolelinux-LDAP should not  
conflict with the Debian squeeze default, shouldn't it?



If you want adduser to create local users by default, ie with uids in
the 500-1000 range, you should probably edit /etc/adduser.conf to
change its behaviour.  These are the relevant settings:


Please decide what you prefer (modify adduser defaults or modify LDAP  
uidNumber range) and file a bug for either of the needed changes.


I would prefer the higher LDAP uidNumber range, but I cannot foresee  
the consequences.


Thanks,
Mike


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Bug#613214: use libpam-krb5 for uidNumbers greater than 10000 only (as opposed to the default > 1000)

2011-02-13 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Mike Gabriel]
> Wrong is a matter of context here.

Well, I would claim it is more a question of expectations.  You seem
to expect something not guaranteed by adduser.

> I just use the Debian defaults and they uidNumbers>=1000 for
> /etc/passwd... Skolelinux-LDAP should not conflict with the Debian
> squeeze default, shouldn't it?

As far as I can tell, it isn't in conflict, and everything is working
as documented.  The 500-1000 range is for local users, while 1000-> is
for global users.  For Skolelinux, these users are in LDAP, and
adduser should not be used without any extra arguments (or changed
configuration) to create local users.  In fact, I would recommend
against creating local users at all on machines with users in LDAP.

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Need in Extremadura for LDAP admin interface

2011-02-13 Thread Jonas Smedegaard

On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 04:17:44PM +0100, José L. Redrejo Rodríguez wrote:
Our servers still remain in lenny and our plans to move to squeeze (or 
wheeze) include the development of a lwat replacement. We need to 
develop it to fit our needs as we have to create accounts massively 
every beginning of the course using as source an external application 
where our ministry manages all the educational data for every citizen. 
So, neither gosa, cipux or lwat can fulfill our needs, and a custom 
development is the only solution I can see.


Could you elaborate some more on your needs for LDAP admin interface?

Sounds like you could benefit from a scriptable interface to a select 
subset of the Skolelinux objects - and I suspect CipUX is an ideal tool 
for this, either as currently shipped with Squeeze (even if not suitable 
for all Skolelinux needs) or maybe with some tuning (I am sure Christian 
Kuelker will like to figure out if that is little or much work.


Therefore: Please do describe in more detail what it is you need in 
Extremadura - to inspire those working on CipUX, GoSA or other LDAP 
tools, to help tune inot such kind of large-deployment needs (and 
perhaps even offer solutions concretely!).



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Bug#613214: use libpam-krb5 for uidNumbers greater than 10000 only (as opposed to the default > 1000)

2011-02-13 Thread Mike Gabriel

Hi Petter,

On So 13 Feb 2011 20:16:39 CET Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:


As far as I can tell, it isn't in conflict, and everything is working
as documented.  The 500-1000 range is for local users, while 1000-> is
for global users.  For Skolelinux, these users are in LDAP, and
adduser should not be used without any extra arguments (or changed
configuration) to create local users.  In fact, I would recommend
against creating local users at all on machines with users in LDAP.


There are two system tools in Debian Edu that claim the same uidNumber  
range. That is indeed a conflict.


So what we can do is:

Option 1: Use LDAP in a way many others do (avoid the uidNumber range of the
distros local user scripts like useradd, adduser etc.

Option 2: Add one more hack into debian-edu-config for the adduser  
config that has to cross-referenced to #311188.


Please close this bug, I will file another bug against the  
adduser<->LDAP uidNumber range conflict (as we are absolutely  
off-topic already here).


Greets,
Mike



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Re: Bug#602863: from bind9 to powerdns and back to bind9

2011-02-13 Thread Christian Kuelker
Hi,

On 02/13/2011 04:17 PM, José L. Redrejo Rodríguez wrote:
[...]

> #602863 is not important for us. Our servers still remain in lenny and
> our plans to move to squeeze (or wheeze) include the development of a
> lwat replacement. We need to develop it to fit our needs as we have to
> create accounts massively every beginning of the course using as source
> an external application where our ministry manages all the educational
> data for every citizen. So, neither gosa, cipux or lwat can fulfill our
> needs, and a custom development is the only solution I can see.

Or you can tell the CipUX Team (for example on cipux-devel ore here
) what you need, and we will see if we can provide it.

[...]

Kind Regards
Christian


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Bug#602863: from bind9 to powerdns and back to bind9

2011-02-13 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Sonntag, 13. Februar 2011, José L. Redrejo Rodríguez wrote:
> Having all the infraestructure and information stored in ldap is very
> safe when you have several thousands of ltsp servers and don't want to
> manually modify configuration files whenever a new server is placed or
> moved. More things are in ldap, less things we have to touch.

we'll keep having dns+dhcp information in ldap, we'll be using ldap2zone to 
write out the bind configuration into files.

this is done by an cronjob running hourly and can also be triggered manually 
by running ldap2bind.

> So, as we all use Debian and can touch everything, don't take this as a
> negative vote. We can do all the changes we need to adjust the
> installation to our setup.

thanks for this clarification! (and your general understanding/acceptiveness!)

> Currently we change some things, and in the future more changes will be
> needed, including removal of the debian-edu-config package.

No, that shouldn't be needed. We just changed the recommends from "pdns" 
to "bind9 | pnds" so if your packages depend on pdns, all is good.


cheers,
Holger


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