Bug#415719: myspell-el-gr: Capital letters are not dealed with correctly (alternative el_GR.dic included)

[mj]

Package: myspell-el-gr
Version: 0.3-1
Severity: normal
Tags: patch


Accent marks are completely ignored in capitals and those words are marked
incorrect. 

This is a replacement dictionary that appends capital letters: 
http://www.www0.org/myspell/el_GR.dic+capitals.bz2 

It is the file included in the pack + capital greek words appended from
a GPL dictionary by "Dimitris Giannitsaros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>".

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 4.0
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.20-fs
Locale: LANG=el_GR, LC_CTYPE=el_GR (charmap=ISO-8859-7)

Versions of packages myspell-el-gr depends on:
ii  dictionaries-common [openoffi 0.70.12Common utilities for spelling dict

myspell-el-gr recommends no packages.

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Bug#420201: alleyoop: Highlight filtered strings

[mj]

Package: alleyoop
Version: 0.9.0-6
Severity: wishlist


Hi, (wishlist item), it'd be fun and nice to have filtered strings
highlighted.

thx, usefull program.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: lenny/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.20.4-fs (PREEMPT)
Locale: LANG=el_GR, LC_CTYPE=el_GR (charmap=ISO-8859-7)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages alleyoop depends on:
ii  gconf2 2.18.0.1-3GNOME configuration database syste
ii  libart-2.0-2   2.3.19-3  Library of functions for 2D graphi
ii  libatk1.0-01.18.0-2  The ATK accessibility toolkit
ii  libbonobo2-0   2.18.0-2  Bonobo CORBA interfaces library
ii  libbonoboui2-0 2.18.0-5  The Bonobo UI library
ii  libc6  2.5-2 GNU C Library: Shared libraries
ii  libcairo2  1.4.4-1   The Cairo 2D vector graphics libra
ii  libfontconfig1 2.4.2-1.2 generic font configuration library
ii  libgconf2-42.18.0.1-3GNOME configuration database syste
ii  libglade2-01:2.6.0-4 library to load .glade files at ru
ii  libglib2.0-0   2.12.11-3 The GLib library of C routines
ii  libgnome-keyring0  0.8.1-2   GNOME keyring services library
ii  libgnome2-02.18.0-4  The GNOME 2 library - runtime file
ii  libgnomecanvas2-0  2.14.0-2  A powerful object-oriented display
ii  libgnomeui-0   2.18.1-2  The GNOME 2 libraries (User Interf
ii  libgnomevfs2-0 1:2.18.1-1GNOME Virtual File System (runtime
ii  libgtk2.0-02.10.11-2 The GTK+ graphical user interface 
ii  libice61:1.0.3-2 X11 Inter-Client Exchange library
ii  liborbit2  1:2.14.7-0.1  libraries for ORBit2 - a CORBA ORB
ii  libpango1.0-0  1.16.2-1  Layout and rendering of internatio
ii  libpopt0   1.10-3lib for parsing cmdline parameters
ii  libsm6 1:1.0.2-2 X11 Session Management library
ii  libx11-6   2:1.0.3-7 X11 client-side library
ii  libxcursor11:1.1.8-2 X cursor management library
ii  libxext6   1:1.0.3-2 X11 miscellaneous extension librar
ii  libxi6 1:1.0.1-4 X11 Input extension library
ii  libxinerama1   1:1.0.2-1 X11 Xinerama extension library
ii  libxml22.6.28.dfsg-1 GNOME XML library
ii  libxrandr2 2:1.1.0.2-5   X11 RandR extension library
ii  libxrender11:0.9.2-1 X Rendering Extension client libra
ii  valgrind   1:3.2.3-1 A memory debugger and profiler
ii  zlib1g 1:1.2.3-13compression library - runtime

alleyoop recommends no packages.

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Bug#420500: gtk2-engines-metal: only has /usr/share/doc files

[mj]

Package: gtk2-engines-metal
Version: 1:2.10.1-2
Severity: normal


as in the title.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: lenny/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.20.4-fs (PREEMPT)
Locale: LANG=el_GR, LC_CTYPE=el_GR (charmap=ISO-8859-7)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages gtk2-engines-metal depends on:
ii  gtk2-engines  1:2.10.1-3 theme engines for GTK+ 2.x

gtk2-engines-metal recommends no packages.

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Bug#289856: mdnsresponder: Wrong license

[MJ Ray]

Marco wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > [...] the APSL 2.0 is not, in the opinion of many (and AFAICT, according
> >to the consensus of the debian-legal mailing list), a free license under the
> Where "many" in this context should be read as "an handful of people on
> the debian-legal mailing list who invented new rules which are not part
> of the DFSG".

Regardless of what you think about the other points, requiring
non-defence of your own patents seems not to follow DFSG 9. Although
I condemn software patents, I know they do exist in some places.

I suspect it really is "many" and not just debian-legal contributors.
Do you really want to argue that software under licences which try to
affect other pieces of unrelated software meets the DFSG?



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Bug#337775: crontab gives error

[MJ Ray]

Can you upgrade your efax to 1.0a-17 and see if that cures it, please?

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Bug#338077: sword-text-kjv - King James Version and Royal Letters Patent

[MJ Ray]

debian-legal has reviewed this topic before. You can read it in
http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2002/05/msg00108.html
Some of the links there have rotted, but it seemed clearly not
Crown copyright.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_James_Version_of_the_Bible
Wikipedia asserts that the KJV is still copyrighted in England.
I think Wikipedia is incomplete at best. Yet again, it does not
seem possible to verify a Wikipedia assertion from evidence
cited in its article. The discussion link on the article
expresses doubt and many of the people discussing it use
"letters patent/copyright" which seems confused to me.

It is my present understanding that the royal letters patent
control printing, not copyright, which did not exist here when
this started.  This "orthogonality" or "independence" is
mentioned in articles, including some you can find online like
http://www.lexum.umontreal.ca/conf/dac/en/sterling/sterling.html
Crown Copyright in the United Kingdom..., by J.A.L. Sterling.

Lionel Elie Mamane cited the 1998 Copyright Act, which surprised
me because I've not heard of it. Which country is it for?

I haven't yet found anything credibly showing extension of the
prerogative to electronic distribution, or more generally to
become a Crown copyright. I don't think we generally grant
the monarchy new prerogatives these days and "The Crown cannot
invent new prerogative powers" (2002-03 Public Admin. Select
Comm. Press Notice 19).

The act currently in force in England is the Copyright Designs
and Patents Act 1988 as amended. If the KJV were covered by
Crown Copyright, wouldn't that have expired after 125 years? I
think the letters patent and royal prerogative are the problem.

So, it's not a problem to *distribute* the KJV in England, as
far as I can see, but it seems you're not free to print it here.
The same may be true of some other Commonwealth countries,
as listed in s.3 and notes of Sterling above.

Hope that helps,
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Bug#338077: sword-text-kjv - King James Version and Royal Letters Patent

[MJ Ray]

Lionel Elie Mamane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> > http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2002/05/msg00108.html
> 
> I don't see a conclusive answer in that discussion; only doubt and
> "didn't find any proof that this restriction still holds". I'd prefer
> if we could find a specific abrogation of the restriction.

Trying to prove that any unseen letters patent do not apply is
rather difficult, isn't it?  We don't know the current letters
patent (if any) to know for sure whether we can do anything.

> I see... Then it would make the KJV merely non-free in the UK, not
> illegal to distribute. On the other hand, I wouldn't be too surprised
> if the courts would interpret "printing" in such an old text as "any
> efficient way to disseminate / distribute".

I would be very surprised by such an interpretation. In recent
copyright-related cases I've read (like the Sony anti-hacking),
the courts seem very intolerant of attempts to stretch words.

> > This "orthogonality" or "independence" is
> > mentioned in articles, including some you can find online like
> > http://www.lexum.umontreal.ca/conf/dac/en/sterling/sterling.html
> > Crown Copyright in the United Kingdom..., by J.A.L. Sterling.
> 
> This one doesn't contain the string "ortho" and "indepen" only at one
> place that doesn't seem to apply.

Apologies. I did not mean to suggest the words were quoted from that
article. I wrote and emphasised them before looking for references.
/orthogonality/ or /independence/ may have been better.

[...]
> > The act currently in force in England is the Copyright Designs
> > and Patents Act 1988 as amended. If the KJV were covered by
> > Crown Copyright, wouldn't that have expired after 125 years? I
> > think the letters patent and royal prerogative are the problem.
> 
> On the other hand, it says (section 171):
> 
> 171.-(1) Nothing in this Part affecs-
>(a) any right or privilege of any person under any enactment
>(except where the enactment is expressly repealed, amended or
>modified by this Act);
>(b) any right or privilege of the Crown subsisting otherwise
>than under an enactment;
> Wouldn't this preserve this perpetual Crown Copyright / Royal
> Prerogative / ...?

I've seen no credible evidence of perpetual Crown Copyright (CC)
covering this package. That's not surprising because CC wasn't
mentioned in early copyright law. The 1911 Act created a CC with
a term of 50 years, later extended up to 125 years by the 1988.

The above does not affect royal prerogatives, as it says.

> I'm starting to think that the Wikipedia article talks of "copyright"
> loosely, not only to what is called "copyright" legally, but of all
> legal restrictions of dealings with distribution, performance,
> derivation, ... of literary works.

Bluntly, I think some of the authors of that Wikipedia article
would struggle to tell copyright from a hole in the floor. This
bug should probably be tagged moreinfo until more reliable data
appears, regardless of other actions.

This may be another case where non-XX (a way for mirror
operators to block locally-uncertain content) would be good.



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Bug#339837: http://www.debian.org/security/ seriously misleading about security infrastructure performance

[MJ Ray]

Filipus Klutiero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> If someone doesn't agree that this is an order of magnitude too
> optimistic, I'll point to http://lwn.net/Articles/149976/

That article is known to contain basic errors. See, for example,
http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/blog/2005/09/09
indolence log, by Anthony Towns
or the comments from the article, even.

> Actually, "Debian takes security very seriously." is just a questionable

That's a bit low.

> statement, but giving a statistic that wrong about it just kills
> credibility.

Please explain how you know that the statistic is "that wrong".

I think the statistic is questionable, so there should be
verification/substantiation of the statistic, but I don't know
whether it's right or wrong. I think it's prejudging things to
delete the first paragraph as suggested.

Hope that helps,
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Bug#205627: debian.pipcom.com

[MJ Ray]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] has confirmed removal of debian.pipcom.com in
ticket ACX-31024-669. Thanks.



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Bug#313229: bind9-host: Returns host: couldn't get address for '': not found

[MJ Ray]

To reproduce this bug, put nameserver lines containing machine names
instead of IP addresses into resolv.conf - this is a configuration
error, but the error message is misleading and why aren't invalid
lines being ignored anyway?

There are some characters between the quote marks, but they
are not visible on all terminals. To capture them, direct the
output to a file and use something like less to view it.

Hope that helps,

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Bug#313615: Further information on the GPL for an Apache module

[MJ Ray]

I think the section in the GPL FAQ at
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLPluginsInNF
applies, even though Apache is not non-free.

libapache-mod-chroot, libapache-mod-witch, libapache2-mod-fcgid,
libapache2-mod-ldap-userdir, libapache2-mod-xslt are also GPL.
If this is a bug, it looks like those may have similar bugs.

A common solution seems to be to get permission to link to
an APL'd work as an exception. Upstream looks alive. If
they're willing, it may be the simplest fix.

libapache2-mod-ldap-userdir has an exception for OpenSSL already.

Good luck!

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Bug#310645: drscheme - dependency on mzscheme version

[MJ Ray]

drscheme and mzscheme are built from the same source and
drscheme really needs the same version of mzscheme running
underneath it. I suspect it needs the same version present
for the installation and byte-compiling and so on, but I've
not looked closely at this package for a while. Does that
answer your question about what it's trying to achieve?

Going back further, I think there we had "overlapping"
packages at one point, which is why there was the Provide
and Replaces thing going on. The upstream source used to
make it easy to build mzscheme or drscheme-including-mz
but not drscheme-to-run-on-already-installed-mz.

What's the status of this bug? I can't see surviving problems,
but I don't have an system to test this upgrade on (yet).
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Bug#209168: mirror.aarnet.edu.au now has woody-proposed-updates

[MJ Ray]

Hello. I'm not sure how long this has been fixed, but
it looks like
ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian/dists/woody-proposed-updates
now exists as a directory. Can this bug be closed?
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Bug#225982: ftp.dk.debian.org - machine off-line?

[MJ Ray]

It looks like ftp.dk.debian.org is still off-line. Its aliases
no longer work and the sponsor looks like it's been bought by
another company. Time to look for a new dk mirror?



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Bug#296807: ftp.nz.debian.org inaccessible from NZ internet

[MJ Ray]

The only other debian mirror in NZ listed seems to be ihug.co.nz
- I don't know whether they'd be interested in being ftp.nz.debian.org
instead.


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Bug#205627: Canadian Debian mirrors

[MJ Ray]

mirror.direct.ca appears to work again now.
debian.yorku.ca appears to work again now.
debian.pipcom.com appears to be missing from DNS.
debian.kida.net appears to be for sale
ftp3.nrc.ca appears to work again now.
sunsite.ualberta.ca has been removed from the mirror list.
less.cogeco.net appears not to mirror debian any more.

Hope that helps. Thanks for the bug report.
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Bug#244686: debian bug 244686: hungarian mirror down

[MJ Ray]

ftp.hu.debian.org seems to work again.

Thanks for your bug report.


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Bug#228015: package 3270 has zero size at aarnet

[MJ Ray]

Probably something ran out of disk space or quota. This
looks fine now. Can this bug report be closed?



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Bug#270742: ftp.uni-erlangen.de debian mirror

[MJ Ray]

Could you tell me whether ftp.uni-erlangen.de's debian mirror
works for you again now, please? Thanks.


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Bug#304251: mirrors: status.html busted

[MJ Ray]

http://mirror.debian.org/status.html looks fixed again to me now.
How about you?


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Bug#283471: Problem with progeny mirror

[MJ Ray]

Do you find that you still have the problem with one
of http.us.debian.org?


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Bug#90458: web mirrors and zh-HK

[MJ Ray]

Retesting here the www mirrors listed produced none answering
in Chinese, although www.dk.debian.org and www.de.debian.org
did not answer at all. Is this bug fixed?



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Bug#228015: package 3270 has zero size at aarnet

[MJ Ray]

OK, I see it now. My mistake. I'll follow it up.
Thanks for your help.


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Bug#296807: ftp.nz.debian.org inaccessible from NZ internet

[MJ Ray]

Jon, thanks for the note from ihug. Can you cc the above bugs
address on your next reply, please?

I've been talking to collaborators in NZ and it seems that this
is a symptom of a rather complex local problem. One description
is at http://publicaddress.net/default,2213.sm#post2213

I'm not sure how debian should react to this. I'll send this to
debian-project, as it's not really a technical problem. Should
we react to the complaint in bug 296807, or encourage this
"public good" offered by WIX by keeping citylink as ftp.nz?



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Bug#296807: ftp.nz.debian.org inaccessible from NZ internet

[MJ Ray]

Matt Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...]
> As you mentioned it's a fairly complex problem and there isn't a simple
> answer however my understanding is that the current ftp.nz.debian.org
> mirror provided by Citylink meets the requirements for an official
> primary country mirror listed at http://www.debian.org/mirror/official

Does it?  Those requirements include:
# It must have a decent connectivity (relative to the respective
country). [...]

I don't know NZ enough to comment whether it is "decent".
Thanks for contributing your local knowledge.

> Given that the mirror operator (Citylink) is making the content
> available to 99% of the NZ Internet it seems that it would be
> unreasonable for the Debian project to require any more of them.

You write "99% of the NZ Internet", but the bug report says
"ftp.nz.debian.org is no longer accessible to the majority of
NZ internet users" which says to me either it's available to
<50% or the bug report is now inaccurate. Is there a
reference about how many are affected?



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Bug#311917: toxo.com.uvigo.es - out of disk space

[MJ Ray]

Package: mirrors
Version: 2005-06-03
Tags: pending

The maintainer of toxo.com.uvigo.es reports a disk upgrade will
happen on Monday, ready for the sarge release.


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Bug#311683: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

[MJ Ray]

Sven Luther wrote:
> This needs to be fixed for sarge, as it will subject random underage people
> sitting in the same room your computer is in to random porn. I believe th=
> is is illegal in most countries, and we can't be allowed to let this happen.

Mmmm, debian-illegal anyone?  What law is that in France and why
aren't all the magazine shop owners being locked-up?



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Bug#309257: libpano12: patent problems

[MJ Ray]

Read more about the iPIX vs Dersch from FFII at
http://swpat.ffii.org/pikta/xrani/ipix/

The second link (contains patent titles) suggests that there
is clear prior art.

Interactive Pictures appear to be a tn.us corporation - does anyone
nearby know whether any regulations forbid so-called patent trolling
in that locality?
http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?company=interactive+pictures&CIK=&filenum=&State=&SIC=&owner=include&action=getcompany

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Bug#307130: dccifd already runs as dcc

[MJ Ray]

Can you be more specific about what you mean? Here, /etc/init.d/dcc-client
contains the option --chuid dcc:dcc, so I'm not sure why you're running
it as root.
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Bug#307130: dccifd already runs as dcc

[MJ Ray]

j wrote:
> However, it doesn't actually work for some reason:

That's very strange. It works fine here, even through sudo.
Three questions:
1. Do you have a dcc user and a dcc group, shown by "id dcc"?
2. What version of start-stop-daemon and are other things non-root OK?
3. What versions of dcc-common and dcc-server are you using?

I think this might be a symptom of bug 222524 but it might be
a bug in dcc packages too.

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Bug#307477: lists.debian.org: Request for debian-l10n-esperanto list creation

[MJ Ray]

Package: lists.debian.org
Severity: wishlist

Name: debian-l10n-esperanto
Rationale: until now, esperanto translations were being discussed
 on the debian-esperanto list, which is really a foreign-language
 version of debian-user. An objection has been received and we
 expect that the amount of translation traffic will increase. So,
 I suggested an l10n list in 
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-esperanto/2005/05/msg00016.html
 and it received support from two translators.
Short description: Esperanto Localisation
Long description: 
 Discussing Esperanto localisation issues, mainly translating Debian docs and
  programs to Esperanto.
 Language used on this list: Esperanto.
Category: Internationalization and Translations
Subscription Policy: open
Post Policy: open
Web Archive: yes

Thank you for reading this request.


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Bug#307130: dccifd already runs as dcc

[MJ Ray]

Thanks for the answers. I'm confused and can't see the reason for
this. Unless zobel takes it up or you can make the same happen on
another system, I'll mark it unreproducible and call for help.

Last try:
start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --chuid dcc:dcc --exec /usr/bin/whoami
replies with dcc OK for you?

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Bug#307672: Can't purge dcc-common if LDAP is used

[MJ Ray]

> The system uses LDAP as NSS backend.

Reading policy 9.2.2, it says to use adduser, so probably deluser
and delgroup are the equivalent, instead of groupdel.

Does delgroup work for you?

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Bug#307672: Can't purge dcc-common if LDAP is used

[MJ Ray]

Piotr Roszatycki wrote:
> It doesn't work, because deluser and delgroup works only on /etc/passwd
> and /etc/group files. My users are on LDAP directory.

Did adduser manage to add the dcc user and group for you?
Should your nsswitch.conf include files as a fallback?
Should we make this a wishlist bug against adduser?

> I suggest to do the same as ssh.postrm do:
> deluser --quiet dcc > /dev/null || true
> delgroup --quiet dcc > /dev/null || true

That seems ugly to me, definitely the redirection, but maybe it's
the best solution.

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Bug#307672: Can't purge dcc-common if LDAP is used

[MJ Ray]

package dcc-common
tags 307672 + patch
stop commands here

> > Did adduser manage to add the dcc user and group for you?
> adduser doesn't add the user if is already exists.

That doesn't answer the question. The postrm script won't
try to remove the users if they are already removed, so you
should remove the dcc user and group from LDAP *before* doing
the --purge and there would be no error.

Did adduser add the dcc user and group for you, or did you add it yourself?

I think that dcc should warn it couldn't remove the user and
group if the adduser commands can't, but not fail. I'm mildly
concerned that usermod is used instead of moduser in postinst.
I also think your system is misconfigured (but that doesn't
excuse dcc-common failing to remove) and you should add files
back into nsswitch if you want debian packages to install and
purge without sysadmin intervention.

Here's a udiff. Excuse timestamps:

--- debian/dcc-common.postrm.orig   2005-05-10 11:05:07.0 +0100
+++ debian/dcc-common.postrm2005-05-10 11:07:28.0 +0100
@@ -24,12 +24,12 @@
rm -rf /var/log/dcc /var/lib/dcc/log /var/lib/dcc/map 
/var/lib/dcc/map.txt /var/lib/dcc/ids /etc/dcc /var/lib/dcc/whiteclnt 
/var/lib/dcc /var/run/dcc

 if getent passwd dcc >/dev/null; then
-deluser dcc
+userdel dcc || echo "dcc: Could not remove dcc user" >&2
 fi


 if getent group dcc >/dev/null; then
-delgroup dcc
+groupdel dcc || echo "dcc: Could not remove dcc group" >&2
 fi


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Bug#302050: packages.debian.org: some new packages are not listed in DWN

[MJ Ray]

I don't understand this bug. Is newpkg_main not updating regularly?
If DWN need more than 7 days, can't they cache it locally?



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Bug#281351: Update/Questions on swxtotext

[MJ Ray]

I am not sure why mako claims I do not want to upload this.
I just do not have time to prepare the packaging in the near
future, nor the need. I am happy to review and sponsor uploads
if wanted. I think not packaging it myself is also a good
habit which helps avoid DDs from flooding debian with their
own unrequested software.

As you might expect, I disagree that a perl script is as robust
and flexible as the simple shell script approach, although
it does have other features. I don't need those features yet,
as few people email OO writer files around (mostly uncorrected
former MS Word file emailers who changed to OpenOffice) and
I've only ever once been sent an unsolicited OO spreadsheet.

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Bug#316668: ftp-master.debian.org still says Sarge is testing

[MJ Ray]

> On http://ftp-master.debian.org under the "Testing" heading, the page
> says "Sarge is testing".  Now that Sarge is released, shouldn't this be
> updated to say "Etch is testing"?

ftp-master.debian.org is not www.debian.org -
Should this bug be reassigned to ftp.debian.org?



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Bug#317975: www.debian.org: ftp-master.debian.org needs to be updated

[MJ Ray]

reassign 317975 ftp.debian.org
merge 317975 316668
thanks but ftpmasters maintain that web page. I'm transferring this
report to them and merging it with the similar one that was passed.



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Bug#318415: mirrors: Version incompatibility between many packages

[MJ Ray]

Which debian mirror are you using, please?

Does this look like http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=6786
?

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Bug#318415: mirrors: Version incompatibility between many packages

[MJ Ray]

Thanks for the extra information (that
deb ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/debian/ sid main non-free contrib
is in use). Is the actual error:

Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  openoffice.org: Depends: openoffice.org-debian-files (> 1.1.3+1.1.4) but it 
is not going to be installed
  Depends: openoffice.org-bin (> 1.1.3+1.1.4) but it is not 
going to be installed
E: Sorry, broken packages

?

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Bug#318415: mirrors: Version incompatibility between many packages

[MJ Ray]

Ryan Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No, it looks like a package that hasn't transitioned to the new C++ ABI yet.

How is it possible to tell that caused this? It seemed to be
installable from ftp.uk.debian.org in a simulation (apt-get
-s install openoffice.org), while using switch failed with the
message shown.  (Perhaps switch had updated more recently than
UK at the time of the test or something. I don't know.)



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Bug#238245: Debian website's copyright and license suggestions?

[MJ Ray]

Tommi Vainikainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Does missing paperwork create a problem?

Strictly speaking, yes.

> And what would be good license for Debians web pages?

MIT/Expat or GNU GPL.

> Because copyright is currently claimed by SPI Inc, and SPI's board
> meeting is coming rather soon, I brought this issue to SPI's
> secretarys attention, but SPI board would appreciate some suggestion
> what they should decide about license change.

I see it will be discussed at the board meeting at
http://www.spi-inc.org/secretary/agenda/2005-10-18.html

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Bug#174456: celestia: troublesome licence changed?

[MJ Ray]

As mentioned on debian-legal last month in the thread starting
http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/09/msg00234.html
the JPL terms may have improved, but maybe are still not quite
following DFSG.

Hope that helps whoever is working on this problem,
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Bug#331464: www.debian.org: there is an grammar error on nm status page

[MJ Ray]

Agney Lopes Roth Ferraz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On nm status page we can find:
> Application Manager will put their approval to the DAM.
> I think that AM is a person (and only one person), this makes the word
> "their" wrong. It should be his.

The gender of the AM is not determined, so "his" is incorrect,
but I think we're sure in this example that there's only one, so
the plural/indefinite "their" is totally incorrect and makes the
phrase unclear. It should be reworded, possibly as "Application
Manager will send approval to the DAM," unless or until AM
genders are noted.

However, this bug was introduced by people who want political
correctness before good, clear English.  When I pointed out
these problems beforehand and suggested rephrasing and equality
of examples before, half-read wikipedia articles and anecdotes
from the advocates were cited in opposition. I don't think I
can reason with that level of bigotry.

I expect your bug will be closed unfixed soon. Sorry.
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Bug#331813: efax depends on debconf *with* | debconf-2.0 alternate

[MJ Ray]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joey Hess)
> This package depends/pre-depends on debconf without allowing the dependency
> to be satisfied with an alternate of debconf-2.0. That is to say, its
> dependency should read: debconf | debconf-2.0

Huh? The latest upload (efax 1:0.9a-16) has that dependency.
Should your mass bug report have indicated a Version, is it
malfunctioning or what?

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Bug#328499: http://mirror.debian.org/status.html doesn't seem to update

[MJ Ray]

Package: mirrors

Thanks for the notice. I don't know how to fix it, but I'll let
others know. The www.de.d.o one is still working at the moment.

> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:25:07 +0100 (BST)
> From: "P.S.S.Camp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: debian-www@lists.debian.org
> Subject: http://www.debian.org/mirrors/
> 
> Refers to http://mirror.debian.org/status.html
> 
> we doesnt seem to be updating.
> 
>  Data capturing time window:
> Tue Aug 16 02:04:06 2005 UTC
> - Tue Aug 16 05:13:54 2005 UTC
> HTML-file creation time: Tue Aug 16 05:13:55 2005 UTC
> 
> Phill.



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Bug#316516: New Debian mirror submission

[MJ Ray]

> Site: debian.pop-sc.rnp.br
> Aliases: mirror.pop-sc.rnp.br

Which mirror does it update from, please?

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Bug#318868: mirrors: ftp2.it.debian.org stale

[MJ Ray]

> ftp2.it.debian.org seems to be out of sync for the past few days, maybe 
> a week or so.

Thank you for the report. This is a known bug. Please see
http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2005/05/msg00160.html
for more information. Sorry for the slow reply.

I'll cc the mirror's owner to see if there's news or advice.

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Bug#316675: New Debian mirror submission

[MJ Ray]

> Site: dl.firasystems.com
> CDImage-http: /debian-cd/

I can't access this host at all. Are the details correct?

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Bug#322001: New Debian mirror submission

[MJ Ray]

> Site: debian.funlam.edu.co
> Mirrors-from: 2 Agosto 2005

Which server do you mirror from, please?

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Bug#317307: New Debian mirror submission

[MJ Ray]

> Site: ftp.ar.debian.org
> Aliases: ftp.ccc.uba.ar

I can only access this site by the alias, not by ftp.ar.debian.org
- are the details correct?

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Bug#321535: New Debian mirror submission

[MJ Ray]

> Site: archive.progeny.com
> Aliases: ftp.progeny.com
> Type: leaf

Hi there. You're already listed as a Push-Primary mirror.
Why the submissions as a new mirror?

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Bug#321535: New Debian mirror submission

[MJ Ray]

Bernie Hoefer,

>  I was submitting ourselves as a new mirror because the old contact
> information (Doug Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) was out of date.

I've noted the new details, but one more question: are you still
sponsored by One Call Internet or just n|Frame?

> When he
> was recently contacted by Joerg Jaspert about the ftp-master.debian.org
> IP address change, I asked Joerg if he could change Progeny's mirror's
> contact info.

I'll cc this to ftpmasters so they know people are handling the
mirrors bugs (slowly), if they need us.

>  (Oops, I just noticed it also instructs one to "add a comment
> stating it is an update."  I didn't do that.  Sorry.)

No worries. That's why I queried it.

Thanks for the help. I await your reply.
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Bug#319333: New Debian mirror submission

[MJ Ray]

Per Marker Mortensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Does mirrors.dk.telia.net satisfy al the requirements shown on the
> page http://www.debian.org/mirrors/official ?

I thought that had been checked the last time it was suggested,
but I don't see rsync access. Can telia offer rsync?

> If not I think it would
> be better to list sunsite.dk / dotsrc.org take over the
> ftp.dk.debian.org responsibilities.

Is http://bugs.debian.org/314568 fixed yet?

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Bug#322136: outdated US iso mirrors

[MJ Ray]

> http://www.us.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ lists a lot of servers that do
> not serve ISOs anymore:

Are you using a script to check these? I don't think debian
kit checks the CD sites automatically yet.

Do any of them serve CD ISOs and just not DVDs?

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Bug#322141: New Debian mirror submission

[MJ Ray]

Christian Reiniger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday 09 August 2005 12:24, Per Marker Mortensen wrote:
> > Dotsrc staff wrote:
> > > * Rsync access is provided from rsync.mirrors.dotsrc.org , i.e. a
> > > *different* host than mirrors.dotsrc.org/ftp.dk.debian.org . We
> > > hope this is no problem.
> >
> > It seems to be the same host, and seems to be working fine:
> 
> Only because we don't have the hardware to separate them yet. Please treat
> them as distinct hosts -- they certainly will be as soon as we can manage
> it.

I think that means it should have two entries in the mirrors list and
won't be ftp.dk.debian.org - can anyone confirm/reject that, please?

See http://www.debian.org/mirror/official

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Bug#317307: New Debian mirror submission

[MJ Ray]

package mirrors
retitle 317307 Nomination for ftp.ar.debian.org
stop

I will add your details to the mirrors list as ftp.ccc.uba.ar

> In first time, we thought to become an official mirror site and we had to
> use the name ftp.ar.debian.org with the respective DNS delegation.
> 
> I don't know how us could use that name for our mirror site.
> Please tell me more details about, we will apreciate all information.

If you wish to become ftp.ar.debian.org please make sure you satisfy
http://www.ar.debian.org/mirror/official - do you offer rsync and
the full archive?

> In case that this name wouldn't be possible to be use, the site name will
> be: debian.ccc.uba.ar. Could you tell us how can we change this?

If you control DNS for ccc.uba.ar, please create the host name, then
email [EMAIL PROTECTED] and someone will update the details.

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Bug#316516: New Debian mirror submission

[MJ Ray]

package mirrors
retitle 316516 New mirror pop-sc.rnp.br needs project/trace
stop

Guilherme Rhoden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Which mirror does it update from, please?
> > 
> The mirror is debian.lcs.mit.edu, exists a better mirror for me?

Maybe. You know your network and can test with bing or something
more easily than I can.

> My Script for mirroring debian is:
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> su mirror -c "debmirror --method=rsync --host=debian.lcs.mit.edu
> - --root=:debian --progress --nosource \
>  --dist=stable,testing,unstable --section=main,contrib,non-free
> - --arch=i386 --getcontents \
>  --postcleanup /home/mirror/debian/"

The project/trace directory doesn't contain an ftp-master.debian.org
file, so our checker will complain. Are you using the latest debmirror?

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Bug#312472: Moroccan mirror problem

[MJ Ray]

package mirrors
notforwarded 312472
severity 321472 normal
retitle 312472 Wanted: new Morocco debian mirror
tags 312472 help
stop

There has been no reply from the mirror maintainer and it has
been commented out by aba a couple of days ago. If anyone knows
a Moroccan mirror or how to fix this one, please submit it.

Reclassifying bug: important problem solved and missing mirror
is not a debian.org one, so this is normal severity now.

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Bug#405441: ITP: smc -- A Jump and Run game like Super Mario World written in C++

[MJ Ray]

Alex de Oliveira Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't know if it is a good program because it have images from "Mario" 
> (a trademark of Nintendo[1]). I'm sending one copy of this email to 
> debian-legal. On the other hand, if somebody wants to package a SMC 
> please look if it is possible, because it have copyright license.

What copyright licence are the graphics under?  It looks like they may
infringe Nintendo's copyright.  The trademark seems less worrying.

I think it could be included in main with alternative 'clean room'
graphics instead of the red-hatted plumber, green pipes and so on.
Are there any?

> [1] -  http://mario.nintendo.com/

That site is useless, requires Flash instead of http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG/

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Bug#405441: ITP: smc -- A Jump and Run game like Super Mario World written in C++

[MJ Ray]

"Muammar Wadih El Khatib Rodriguez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So, you mean it could be included in main using alternative graphics
> instead of the current ones. If it would not be possible to change the
> current images,  I'd like to know: couldn't be smc included into
> debian? couldn't be smc included in another category instead of main?

Since the end of non-US http://www.debian.org/mirror/list-non-US
I don't think there is another category instead of main.  main is
debian and debian is main.

The mirrors also have non-free (stuff that can be redistributed but
does not follow the DFSG) and contrib (stuff that could go in main if
it didn't depend on something not in main), but they are not part of
debian.  Also:
- IF smc's graphics infringe Nintendo's copyright THEN we probably
  cannot legally distribute them at all, even in non-free.
- Therefore, IF smc's graphics cannot be changed THEN we probably
  cannot distribute smc.

Sorry about the conditionals.  I don't know Nintendo's work well
enough to have a strong opinion whether or not smc's graphics infringe
Nintendo's copyright.

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Bug#395961: gabber: Links with GPL-incompatible licensed OpenSSL

[MJ Ray]

[gnomemm maintainer added to cc]

Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think this exception should be copied into the debian/copyright,
[...]

I agree.  As well as breaking policy, it means the same report may
appear again.

> Moreover: it seems that one of the libraries the package depends
> on is available under the terms of the GNU GPL v2, without any
> additional linking permission: namely libgnomemm[1][2]. [...]

http://gtkmm.sourceforge.net/ says: 'gtkmm is free software distributed
under the GNU Library General Public License (LGPL).'  The COPYING in
the stable libgnomemm*tar.bz2 seems to confirm that.

Why is debian distributing libgnomemm under the GPL?

Puzzled,
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Bug#395961: gabber: Links with GPL-incompatible licensed OpenSSL

[MJ Ray]

Apologies.  The compatible API being GPL would not be a problem.
I got confused about what is linking to what again.
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Bug#395961: gabber: Links with GPL-incompatible licensed OpenSSL

[MJ Ray]

Goedson Teixeira Paixao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Version 1.2 of gnomemm (which is the one involved in this bug) is
> licensed under the GPL.

ACK.  I jumped version somewhere.  Probably its upstream is not averse 
to relicensing or giving extra permissions, as 1.3 onwards is LGPL, but 
this is a bug for either/both of gabber or libgnomemm1.2 to fix.
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Bug#395961: gabber: Links with GPL-incompatible licensed OpenSSL

[MJ Ray]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Wouldn't it be possible to link to libgnutls instead of libssl? It seems
> that GNU TLS provides an API compatible with OpenSSL.

The compatible API is part of GNUTLS-EXTRA, which is also GPL.  See
http://josefsson.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/gnutls/includes/gnutls/openssl.h?rev=1.20&root=gnupg-mirror&view=auto

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Bug#396573: libnet-xwhois-perl: Please include examples from upstream

[MJ Ray]

Package: libnet-xwhois-perl
Version: 0.90-1
Severity: normal

The man page refers to example programs such as a whois client, but 
these don't seem to be in the package.  Please include them.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 3.1
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.4.27-2-686
Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)

Versions of packages libnet-xwhois-perl depends on:
ii  perl   5.8.4-8sarge5 Larry Wall's Practical Extraction 

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Bug#297648: RSS feed for DWN - 1.0 and internal

[MJ Ray]

An RSS feed should be the community-developed RDF Site Summary
(aka RSS 1) rather than the semi-XML Rich Site Summary (RSS 2).

Either way, it would be better to link stories to id tags on
their story paragraphs. Some RSS tools really dislike repeated
URLs in s, which I think the attached patch generates.



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Bug#277950: Suggested patch for mirror.ac.uk change

[MJ Ray]

Should this bug be reassigned to the "mirrors" package?



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Bug#383316: Choosing a license for Frets on Fire songs

[MJ Ray]

Matthew Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes that's the contract you have to sign to be part of Teosto (which you have
> to do if you ever want to make a living in Finland as a musician).

Please, ask Finland's *legislators* if the situation there is really
that anti-competitive closed shop.  I've heard similar things before, but
as I'm not much of a musician and negiotiated a cancellation on my book
publishing contract, I've not had to look at these problems for myself.

I suspect it is that bad (the EU approach to copyright is a wrong-headed
protectionist one at present), but anyway it would be good to make
legislators aware that there are creative people who are hindered by this.

Monopoly collecting societies seem long overdue a reality check and
a reminder that they should work for the composers/authors and not only
the legacy publishers.

If Teosto has a fundamental objection to releasing music as free software
and Teosto approval is an essential requirement, then we either change
Teosto or we change free software.  I say change Teosto.
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Bug#412063: ITP: rott -- Rise of the Triad: The HUNT begins

[MJ Ray]

Fabian Greffrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I have two questions addressed at the debian-legal team:
> 
> (1) The shareware data files can be found at
> . Inside the zip file there is
> a file called `VENDOR.DOC' containing the copyright and licensing terms.
> As far as I understand the terms it is legally unobjective to
> automatically download and install the files as long as we do not
> actively redistribute them. Or are there any traps in the phrasing?

That zip does not contain that file:

Archive:  1rott13.zip
  Length Date   TimeName
    
   142412  08-01-95 13:30   INSTALL.EXE
  3595834  08-01-95 13:30   ROTTSW13.SHR
  504  08-01-95 13:30   FILE_ID.DIZ
    ---
  3738750   3 files

In general, I can't see how the terms of 1rott13.zip can affect whether
or not the GPL'd rott downloads it automatically.  It's up to the FTP
site owner to ban people if they object to downloading, IMO.  What
people do after downloading is not our concern.

If appropriate, please send the text of VENDOR.DOC to debian-legal again
with the question.

> (2) The game contains graphical violence. It has an RSAC rating of 4,
> whatever that means. However, the violence level is adjustable. To avoid
> problems (in countries that are very sensitive concerning graphical
> violence in computer games, e.g. Germany), should I hardcode the game to
> a lower violence level?

I think not, but I suspect it depends on your country.

> By the way, the game is on the German `Index' (some kind of nasties
> list). That means, it must not be sold to underage persons and not even
> be advertised *in Germany*. However, Quake 2 and Doom are on that list,
> too. Any advise?

German advertisers and distributors should already be aware of this
question.  See bug #313159

Personally, I do not understand how that German Index is a workable law,
but I'm not selling or advertising such materials to young Germans.
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Bug#418328: "different to" is fine grammar

[MJ Ray]

"different to" is perfectly good English English.  This is noted in
http://alt-usage-english.org/excerpts/fxdiffer.html
while the pages
http://www.jimloy.com/language/differen.htm
http://englishplus.com/grammar/0202.htm
are about "different than" and irrelevant to this report.

The bug report looks like a form letter.  See
http://trac.wordpress.org/ticket/3749
for example.

http://www.collins.co.uk/wordexchange/Sections/DicSrchRsult.aspx?word=different
explains the different different-following prepositions in more detail.

Anyway, "The .la  contains a libdir which is not its path."
may be a clearer phrasing of the same message.

Hope that helps,
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Bug#388571: [Pkg-awstats-devel] Bug#388571: awstats: Non-free Firefox icon included

[MJ Ray]

Charles Fry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Can anyone comment on whether or not it is problematic for us to
> distribute a tiny icon of Firefox's logo? [...]

IIRC we have no current copyright permission for it, even in the browser
sources.  So, yes, a problem.  Can you ask Mozilla.org whether the logo
is available under a free software licence yet?

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Bug#389876: ITP: koha -- web-based library catalogue (ILS/OPAC)

[MJ Ray]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist

Web-based online public access catalogue (OPAC) with a full integrated 
 library system (ILS) including catalogue, circulation and acquisition 
 management facilities, built in perl upon well-defined standards such 
 as a MySQL database for storage and Z39.50 for bibliographic data 
 retrieval.

Homepage: http://www.koha.org/
Copyright licence: GPL-2

Packaging is discussed on the koha-devel list.

Thanks,
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Bug#389464: gnome-themes-extras: non-free Firefox icon included

[MJ Ray]

Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The only issue here is a trademark one, but as the icon is used to
> reference firefox itself, I'd have guessed it is allowed. I'm CCing
> debian-legal, as this has been discussed to death and I guess someone
> will have more clues than myself.

I think I agree with that.  It's not subject to the firefox copyright,
as far as I know, and it's an honest use of the trademark.  If the icon
is modified to refer to something else, then any bug may be caused by
the trademark, rather than the icon's copyright licence terminating,
which is the most common trademark/licensing bug.

Thanks for tackling this,
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Bug#692824: dtc-common: User cronjobs form minutes option name-value mismatch

[MJ Ray]

Package: dtc-common
Version: 0.34.6-1~bpo60+1
Severity: normal
Tags: patch upstream

In client panel: domain: Cron jobs, the option "Each 10 minutes"
actually runs the job every 15 minutes, the "Each 15 minutes" runs
it every 20 and so on.

This seems to be a misplaced closing comment around line 50 of
shared / inc / forms / user_cronjobs.php - patch below.

This bug still seems visible in dtc.git HEAD even though I found it
on a server with an older packaged version.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 6.0.3
  APT prefers stable-updates
  APT policy: (500, 'stable-updates'), (500, 'stable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_GB, LC_CTYPE=en_GB (charmap=ISO-8859-1)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages dtc-common depends on:
ii  apache2  2.2.16-6+squeeze7   Apache HTTP Server metapackage
ii  apache2-mpm-pref 2.2.16-6+squeeze7   Apache HTTP Server - traditional n
ii  aufs-tools   20100601-1  Tools to manage aufs filesystems
ii  bind91:9.7.3.dfsg-1~squeeze8 Internet Domain Name Server
ii  bzip21.0.5-6 high-quality block-sorting file co
ii  ca-certificates  20090814+nmu3squeeze1   Common CA certificates
ii  chrootuid1.3-5   Run commands in restricted environ
ii  cpio 2.11-4  GNU cpio -- a program to manage ar
ii  cron 3.0pl1-116  process scheduling daemon
ii  debconf [debconf 1.5.36.1Debian configuration management sy
ii  debootstrap  1.0.26+squeeze1 Bootstrap a basic Debian system
ii  file 5.04-5+squeeze2 Determines file type using "magic"
ii  gawk 1:3.1.7.dfsg-5  GNU awk, a pattern scanning and pr
ii  libapache2-mod-l 1.100-14+b1 Use SQL to store/write your apache
ii  libapache2-mod-p 5.3.3-7+squeeze14   server-side, HTML-embedded scripti
ii  libnss-mysql-bg  1.5-2   NSS module for using MySQL as a na
ii  libnusoap-php0.7.3-4 SOAP toolkit for PHP
ii  libpam-mysql 0.7~RC1-4+b1PAM module allowing authentication
ii  libpam-unix2 1:2.4.1-4   Blowfish-capable PAM module
ii  libsasl2-modules 2.1.23.dfsg1-7  Cyrus SASL - pluggable authenticat
ii  locales-all  2.11.2-10   Embedded GNU C Library: Precompile
ii  lsb-release  3.2-23.2squeeze1Linux Standard Base version report
ii  mhonarc  2.6.16-1Mail to HTML converter
ii  mime-support 3.48-1  MIME files 'mime.types' & 'mailcap
ii  mlmmj1.2.17-2mail server independent mailing li
ii  mysql-client-5.0 5.0.51a-24+lenny5   MySQL database client binaries
ii  ncftp2:3.2.4-1   A user-friendly and well-featured 
ii  net-tools1.60-23 The NET-3 networking toolkit
ii  openssl  0.9.8o-4squeeze13   Secure Socket Layer (SSL) binary a
ii  patch2.6-2   Apply a diff file to an original
ii  php-crypt-cbc1.0.0.1-1   A class to emulate Perl's Crypt::C
ii  php-fpdf 3:1.6.dfsg-1PHP class to generate PDF files
ii  php-mail-mime1.8.0-2 PHP PEAR module for creating MIME 
ii  php-net-ipv4 1.3.1-2 IPv4 network calculations and vali
ii  php-pear 5.3.3-7+squeeze14   PEAR - PHP Extension and Applicati
ii  php-xml-serializ 0.20.0-2.1  swiss-army knife for reading and w
ii  php5 5.3.3-7+squeeze14   server-side, HTML-embedded scripti
ii  php5-cli 5.3.3-7+squeeze14   command-line interpreter for the p
ii  php5-curl5.3.3-7+squeeze14   CURL module for php5
ii  php5-gd  5.3.3-7+squeeze14   GD module for php5
ii  php5-imagick 3.0.0~rc1-1 ImageMagick module for php5
ii  php5-mysql   5.3.3-7+squeeze14   MySQL module for php5
ii  postfix  2.7.1-1+squeeze1High-performance mail transport ag
ii  postfix-mysql2.7.1-1+squeeze1MySQL map support for Postfix
ii  pure-ftpd-mysql  1.0.28-3+b1 Secure and efficient FTP server wi
ii  rrdtool  1.4.3-1 time-series data storage and displ
ii  sasl2-bin2.1.23.dfsg1-7  Cyrus SASL - administration progra
ii  sbox-dtc 1.11.6-1~bpo60+2CGI chroot wrapper script for safe
ii  ssh  1:5.5p1-6+squeeze1  secure shell client and server (me
ii  sudo 1.7.4p4-2.squeeze.3 Provide limited super user privile
ii  unzip6.0-4   De-archiver for .zip files
ii  webalizer2.01.10-32.7web server log analysis program
ii  zip  3.0-3   Archiver for .zip files

Versions of packages dtc-common recommends:
pn  libapache2-mod-bwshare (no description ava

Bug#690231: wiki.debian.org: error in Locale page (sshd vs. ssh))

[MJ Ray]

Paul Wise 
> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Francesco Potortì wrote:
> 
> > There is a field named "ReCaptcha (required)" without any picture or
> > input field.  And I am refused subscription because I entered no captcha.
> 
> It is likely that you will need to enable JavaScript, accept
> third-party cookies and other nastyness.

This is a bug.  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=678540

This really does lock many disabled users out of the wiki - and with
some browser settings, it even insults them too.  So bugs asking for
wiki changes should not be closed with "you can just register an
account and fix it yourself" because many users cannot.

Hope that informs,
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Bug#690797: mpt-status: fails to detect controller for Dell LSI 53c1030

[MJ Ray]

Package: mpt-status
Version: 1.2.0-7
Severity: normal

lspci reports LSI Logic / Symbios Logic 53c1030 PCI-X Fusion-MPT Dual Ultra320
  SCSI

mpt-status -p returns "Nothing found, contact the author"

Package sends an email saying that every two hours.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 6.0.5
  APT prefers stable-updates
  APT policy: (500, 'stable-updates'), (500, 'stable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages mpt-status depends on:
ii  daemon  0.6.4-1  turns other processes into daemons
ii  libc6   2.11.3-3 Embedded GNU C Library: Shared lib
ii  lsb-base3.2-23.2squeeze1 Linux Standard Base 3.2 init scrip

mpt-status recommends no packages.

Versions of packages mpt-status suggests:
ii  bsd-mailx [mailx]  8.1.2-0.20100314cvs-1 simple mail user agent

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Bug#690853: evolution: Setup requires username and password entered repeatedly

[MJ Ray]

Package: evolution
Version: 2.30.3-5
Severity: normal

Even if access to many services on a server uses one username and
password, evolution still needs the details entering 5 or more times.

Each user has imap, smtp, cal, shared caldav calendars, and so on.
Each of these has to be set up manually one at a time, which is a
pain.

Is there a solution to this, such as setting up the accounts via some
other method such as a distributable config file, or an authentication
wizard where one authentication tries to set up all the services?

This might be an upstream problem, or might be solved upstream, but I
didn't find it when I tried looking.


-- System Information:
Debian Release: 6.0.2
  APT prefers stable-updates
  APT policy: (500, 'stable-updates'), (500, 'stable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-5-686 (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=en_GB.utf8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.utf8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages evolution depends on:
ii  dbus   1.2.24-4+squeeze1 simple interprocess messaging syst
ii  debconf [debconf-2 1.5.36.1  Debian configuration management sy
ii  evolution-common   2.30.3-5  architecture independent files for
ii  evolution-data-ser 2.30.3-2  evolution database backend server
ii  gconf2 2.28.1-6  GNOME configuration database syste
ii  gnome-icon-theme   2.30.3-2  GNOME Desktop icon theme
ii  libart-2.0-2   2.3.21-1  Library of functions for 2D graphi
ii  libatk1.0-01.30.0-1  The ATK accessibility toolkit
ii  libc6  2.11.2-10 Embedded GNU C Library: Shared lib
ii  libcairo2  1.8.10-6  The Cairo 2D vector graphics libra
ii  libcamel1.2-14 2.30.3-2  The Evolution MIME message handlin
ii  libcanberra-gtk0   0.24-1Gtk+ helper for playing widget eve
ii  libcanberra0   0.24-1a simple abstract interface for pl
ii  libdbus-1-31.2.24-4+squeeze1 simple interprocess messaging syst
ii  libdbus-glib-1-2   0.88-2.1  simple interprocess messaging syst
ii  libebackend1.2-0   2.30.3-2  Utility library for evolution data
ii  libebook1.2-9  2.30.3-2  Client library for evolution addre
ii  libecal1.2-7   2.30.3-2  Client library for evolution calen
ii  libedataserver1.2- 2.30.3-2  Utility library for evolution data
ii  libedataserverui1. 2.30.3-2  GUI utility library for evolution 
ii  libegroupwise1.2-1 2.30.3-2  Client library for accessing group
ii  libenchant1c2a 1.6.0-1   a wrapper library for various spel
ii  libevolution   2.30.3-5  evolution libraries
ii  libfontconfig1 2.8.0-2.1 generic font configuration library
ii  libfreetype6   2.4.2-2.1+squeeze1FreeType 2 font engine, shared lib
ii  libgconf2-42.28.1-6  GNOME configuration database syste
ii  libgdata-google1.2 2.30.3-2  Client library for accessing Googl
ii  libgdata1.2-1  2.30.3-2  Client library for accessing Googl
ii  libglib2.0-0   2.24.2-1  The GLib library of C routines
ii  libgnome-desktop-2 2.30.2-2  Utility library for loading .deskt
ii  libgnomecanvas2-0  2.30.1-1  A powerful object-oriented display
ii  libgtk2.0-02.20.1-2  The GTK+ graphical user interface 
ii  libgtkhtml-editor0 3.30.3-1  HTML rendering/editing library - e
ii  libgtkhtml3.14-19  3.30.3-1  HTML rendering/editing library - r
ii  libgweather1   2.30.3-1  GWeather shared library
ii  libical0   0.44-3iCalendar library implementation i
ii  libice62:1.0.6-2 X11 Inter-Client Exchange library
ii  libnotify1 [libnot 0.5.0-2   sends desktop notifications to a n
ii  libnspr4-0d4.8.6-1   NetScape Portable Runtime Library
ii  libnss3-1d 3.12.8-1+squeeze3 Network Security Service libraries
ii  libpango1.0-0  1.28.3-1+squeeze2 Layout and rendering of internatio
ii  libsm6 2:1.1.1-1 X11 Session Management library
ii  libsoup2.4-1   2.30.2-1  an HTTP library implementation in 
ii  libsqlite3-0   3.7.3-1   SQLite 3 shared library
ii  libstartup-notific 0.10-1library for program launch feedbac
ii  libunique-1.0-01.1.6-1.1 Library for writing single instanc
ii  libxml22.7.8.dfsg-2+squeeze1 GNOME XML library
ii  zlib1g 1:1.2.3.4.dfsg-3  compression library - runtime

Versions of packages evolution recommends:
ii  bogofilter   1.2.2-2 a fast Bayesian spam filter (dummy
ii  evolution-plugins2.30.3-5standard plugins for Evolution
ii  evolution-webcal 2.28.1-1webcal: 

Bug#690879: supybot: Rejects valid URLs as invalid if they contain authentication info

[MJ Ray]

Package: supybot
Version: 0.83.4.1.ds-2
Severity: normal

Any commands that are defined as expecting a URL will reject some
valid URLs if they contain a username and/or password and an @ before
the hostname.  I have checked and it is not fixed upstream at sourceforge.
I have a possible patch for this.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 6.0.5
  APT prefers stable-updates
  APT policy: (500, 'stable-updates'), (500, 'stable')
Architecture: i386 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.26-2-amd64 (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages supybot depends on:
ii  python  2.6.6-3+squeeze7 interactive high-level object-orie
ii  python-support  1.0.10   automated rebuilding support for P

Versions of packages supybot recommends:
ii  python  2.6.6-3+squeeze7 interactive high-level object-orie
ii  python-feedparser   4.1-14   Universal Feed Parser for Python
ii  python-simplejson   2.1.1-1  simple, fast, extensible JSON enco

Versions of packages supybot suggests:
ii  python-dateutil   1.4.1-3powerful extensions to the standar
pn  python-dictclient  (no description available)
ii  python-sqlite 1.0.1-7+b1 python interface to SQLite 2
pn  python-twisted-core(no description available)
pn  python-twisted-names   (no description available)

-- no debconf information
--- hacks/usr-share-pyshared-supybot-utils-web.py   2012-10-18 
17:36:45.0 +0100
+++ /usr/share/pyshared/supybot/utils/web.py2012-10-18 17:55:06.0 
+0100
@@ -50,9 +50,9 @@
 # Base domain regex off RFC 1034 and 1738
 label = r'[0-9a-z][-0-9a-z]*[0-9a-z]?'
 domain = r'%s(?:\.%s)*\.[a-z][-0-9a-z]*[a-z]?' % (label, label)
-urlRe = re.compile(r'(\w+://(?:%s|%s)(?::\d+)?(?:/[^\])>\s]*)?)'
+urlRe = re.compile(r'(\w+://(\S+@)?(?:%s|%s)(?::\d+)?(?:/[^\])>\s]*)?)'
% (domain, ipAddr), re.I)
-httpUrlRe = re.compile(r'(https?://(?:%s|%s)(?::\d+)?(?:/[^\])>\s]*)?)'
+httpUrlRe = re.compile(r'(https?://(\S+@)?(?:%s|%s)(?::\d+)?(?:/[^\])>\s]*)?)'
% (domain, ipAddr), re.I)
 
 REFUSED = 'Connection refused.'

Bug#690879: supybot: Rejects valid URLs as invalid if they contain authentication info

[MJ Ray]

> I fixed your patch (fixed the regexp and added code for handling
> authentication) and I applied it to Limnoria (a modified version of
> Supybot).
> 
> https://github.com/ProgVal/Limnoria/commit/3a7830097196f3206ceda606d86d551b86e6c59c

Thanks.  I hadn't noticed getUrlFd because my trigger for the error
was the RSS module, which I think doesn't use getUrlFd but passes
the URL as-is to feedparser, which copes with it.

Is Limnoria in debian?

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Bug#678536: lists.debian.org - list info page displays link to recent archives even when there is no archive

[MJ Ray]

Package: lists.debian.org
Severity: normal

Pages like http://lists.debian.org/debian-bugs-dist/
for lists with no archive still include

You can link to the most recent page in the archives 
for this list.

right above the text that says there is no archive.

Unsurprisingly, the link doesn't work.  Can we hide the paragraph?



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Bug#678539: wiki.debian.org - "Immutable Page" on all pages

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Package: wiki.debian.org
Severity: normal

Every page on the wiki says "Immutable Page" even when they can
be edited if one logs in.  If registration is required, 
change the message to "Login to Edit" or just hide it for
unauthenticated users.



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Bug#678540: wiki.debian.org - no accessible login/registration method

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Package: wiki.debian.org
Severity: normal

The account creation page
http://wiki.debian.org/FrontPage?action=newaccount requires people to
pass a reCaptcha, which is annoying for able-bodied users and
downright impossible for some users with disabilities.

The login page http://wiki.debian.org/FrontPage?action=login
does not allow one to login with OpenID or something else that
is more accessible (like something created from our GPG key, maybe).



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Bug#707651: Wiki password recovery not working for me

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Steve McIntyre <93...@debian.org>
> Slightly taken aback by the severity: important bug, but whatever...

It's debatably correct: "important: a bug which has a major effect on
the usability of a package, without rendering it completely unusable
to everyone."

Being unable to recover a password has a major effect on the usability
for the reporter, so why the surprise?

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Bug#701938: [www.debian.org] Debian Trademarks: Branden Robinson presented as DPL

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Holger wrote:
> The Debian UK Society, by Branden Robinson (Debian Project Leader at the time 
> of decision).

That line is rather moot.  That business no longer exists and I think
zack has just terminated its licence for that reason.
http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/webwml/webwml/english/trademark.wml?view=log

I would just stick the year on the end of the debian.ch one, so it
says "Debian Project Leader 2011" but I've not checked how we usually
refer to past project leaders.

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Bug#571146: www.debian.org: add link to IBM Public License

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Russ Allbery 
> Could you add a link to the IBM Public License 1.0 to
> www.debian.org/legal/licenses/?  This license is used by Postfix and
> OpenAFS and has been accepted in Debian main since 2000.

I suspect it didn't appear there because the name isn't 
distinctive and varies a bit (see below).

It looks like it's only appropriate if used by IBM (due to the
definition of Contributor), so it should probably should have a
comment along those lines next to it.  So should PHP License IIRC, so
this doesn't bar it from listing.

> The license is at http://www.opensource.org/licenses/ibmpl.php

It looks like there are two versions:

1. IBM PUBLIC LICENSE VERSION 1.0 - SECURE MAILER
ftp://ftp.porcupine.org/mirrors/postfix-release/LICENSE

2. IBM Public License Version 1.0
http://www.openafs.org/frameset/dl/license10.html

Are they the same except the title and which should we link?

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Bug#722563: lxlauncher: does not display debian menus

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Package: lxlauncher
Version: 0.2.2-3
Severity: normal

Dear Maintainer,

lxlauncher only shows a small subset of the installed applications, while I
would expect it to offer access to as many as possible.

It seems capable of using the full debian menu with only a few changes, so
please would you fix this bug, perhaps by adding a dependency on menu-xdg and
the following config snippet in an appropriate location?


  
Debian
debian-menu.menu
Debian.directory
  



-- System Information:
Debian Release: 7.1
  APT prefers stable
  APT policy: (990, 'stable'), (500, 'stable-updates')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 3.8.3 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages lxlauncher depends on:
ii  libatk1.0-0   2.4.0-2
ii  libc6 2.13-38
ii  libcairo2 1.12.2-3
ii  libfontconfig12.9.0-7.1
ii  libfreetype6  2.4.9-1.1
ii  libgdk-pixbuf2.0-02.26.1-1
ii  libglib2.0-0  2.33.12+really2.32.4-5
ii  libgtk2.0-0   2.24.10-2
ii  libmenu-cache10.3.3-1
ii  libpango1.0-0 1.30.0-1
ii  libstartup-notification0  0.12-1
ii  libx11-6  2:1.5.0-1+deb7u1
ii  lxmenu-data   0.1.2-2

Versions of packages lxlauncher recommends:
ii  gnome-icon-theme  3.4.0-2

lxlauncher suggests no packages.

-- Configuration Files:
/etc/xdg/menus/lxlauncher-applications.menu changed [not included]

-- no debconf information


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Bug#388141: Handling the copyright mess of the website

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David Prévot 
> If they refuse to grant copyright of their future contributions to SPI,
> or if they don't respond, the first action would be to remove their
> commit access, so starting at  2012, all the new content of the
> website will be copyright SPI.

That seems a bad situation in two ways: 1. even though I think SPI is
A Good Thing, I will not assign copyright to it because I feel that
would make it more attractive to attackers.  SPI already holds too
many assets for too long, in my opinion.

2. I feel that forcing a choice between copyright assignment and being
airbrushed out of the website is rather at odds with the usual idea of
voluntary contributions to the project.  It seems like demanding a fee
before work is considered on its merits for inclusion.

Nevertheless, I probably would grant DPLs (or suitable delegates)
permission to pick a dual licence for material on the website if
asked, so long as the previous licence(s) also held.

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Bug#644496: duplicity: Can't restore a single file with --file-to-restore

[MJ Ray]

Here is a little more info.  I think that I have encountered a similar
problem and in my case, I believe it was because I had got in a muddle
with GPG keys in the initial setup, then corrected it after the first
full backup, so the backup chain was not all using the same key.  It
does seem to be a backup-time error that is not obvious until you try
to restore.

tl;dr: do a verify after the first backup after changing any setting.

(Happily I lost no data because I was only experimenting.)

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Bug#637622: config file modifiable by users in /var/lib/dtc

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I think this is rather debatable.  Perhaps some of the config files
could be replaced by things like apache2/conf.d sections that
calculated things from the dtc database but it wouldn't be as simple
to debug.

However, I think there is one file which is troublesome here.  I think
most users should modify /var/lib/dtc/etc/quotawarnmsg to add some
customisation (like the name of the server owner maybe) that makes it
easier to distinguish a real warning from a phishing attack.  When
/var/lib/dtc/etc/quotawarnmsg is emailed, it does not use the header
or signature from /etc/dtc/ so it is rather for users to dismiss or
attackers to spoof.

Could that one be moved to /etc/dtc, please?

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Bug#757452: iceowl-extension: notify attendees not working on caldav calendar events

[MJ Ray]

Package: iceowl-extension
Version: 24.7.0-1~deb7u1
Severity: normal

Dear Maintainer,

   * What led up to the situation?

I was creating an event in the calendar and adding remote (not on my caldav
server) attendees.

   * What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective (or
 ineffective)?

The "Notify attendees" checkbox was ticked but greyed out. I understood this to
mean that attendees would be notified and I could not stop it, but they were
not.

   * What was the outcome of this action?

Watching the email logs of both caldav server and client machines showed that
neither sent an email to the remote attendee.

   * What outcome did you expect instead?

I expected the client to send an email, as it does for local calendars.
Ideally, I would like the "Notify attendees" checkbox to be toggle-able.



-- System Information:
Debian Release: 7.6
  APT prefers stable
  APT policy: (990, 'stable'), (500, 'stable-updates'), (500, 'testing')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 3.10-0.bpo.2-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages iceowl-extension depends on:
ii  icedove 24.7.0-1~deb7u1
ii  libc6   2.17-93
ii  libgcc1 1:4.7.2-5
ii  libstdc++6  4.7.2-5

Versions of packages iceowl-extension recommends:
pn  calendar-google-provider  

Versions of packages iceowl-extension suggests:
ii  fonts-lyx  2.0.3-3

-- no debconf information


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Bug#437632: Copyright headers in po-debconf

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"Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 13-08-2007 12:57, Florian Weimer wrote:
> > I think this should read:
> > # Copyright (c) 2006-2007 Florian Weimer
> > # Copyright (c) 2006, Herbert Parentes Fortes Neto (hpfn) <[EMAIL 
> > PROTECTED]>
> > # Copyright (c) 2007, Eder L. Marques <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > # This file is distributed under the same license as the debsecan package.
> > 
> > IOW, three copyright holders, one licensing statement.
>
>   Ok, this is similar of my understanding and our practice, we
> don't use your name because as I said, the template doesn't bring
> carry this info, so we usually assign it to the Package Maintainer,
[...]

I have never assigned my copyrights AFAICR.  I'm surprised if any
translators are assigning copyrights to package maintainers.

I think Florian Weimer's layout seems most accurate, but FSF's also
OK.  (IANAL IAJADD and so on.)

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Bug#428185: ITP: evolution-python -- python bindings for libebook and libecal

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Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Christian Perrier wrote:
> >>   Description : python bindings for libebook and libecal
> > 
> > Isn't 'Python' supposed to be spelled with an initial capital? [...]

I think so here.  It's used as a name.

> I think it should be accessing data, not accessing to data. [...]

I think both "allows accessing to data" and "allows accessing data"
are slightly wrong.  It should be of the form "allows FEATURE" and
FEATURE is "access to data" here.  However, this seems moot now.

> On a 
> different note, I'm not sure that the shortened description is as 
> accurate as it can be: I would like to avoid equating accessing data via 
> evolution-data-server to accessing evolution data, as it seems to become 
> gnome's standard way of accessing contacts and calendar-like information 
> (the rdepends of e-d-s seems to have a small parade of gnome apps 
> dealing with such data).

I'm not sure whether it's standard, so I've written "a" not "the".

> Maybe something along the lines of
>
>Evolution-python allows python programs to interface the Evolution
>Data Server. Evolution Data Server is the GNOME backend for storing
>address book, calendar and todo list information.

Evolution-python allows programs using Python to interface with the
Evolution Data Server, which is a GNOME store of address book,
calendar and task list information.

Notes:
- Dictionaries seem inconsistent about to-do, so I replaced it.
- Not sure about "python programs" and "programs in Python" seems too
narrow.  If it's like guile, then programs which use Python but aren't
entirely written in Python can still access it.
- I hate "backend" and it was ridiculed on the BBC last week.

[...]
> P.S.: I'm not subscribed to debian-l10n-english, so I would appreciate 
> CCs for list replies.

Done.

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Bug#428195: krb5: [debconf_rewrite] Debconf templates review

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Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This has been discussed on dle and we finally settled that the use of
> single quote is what's the closest to the official English
> typography's quotes. [...]

I was not part of that discussion.  What subject was that under?

I found a small mention of it in Bug #426491 and some discussion in
ocsinventory-agent's 2007-04-* thread, but nothing about a supposed
official English typography.  I'm *very* suspicious of things claiming
official English status - we don't have an Academie Anglaise and that
tactic seems similar to Death By Dictionary.  Standards by different
people simply do different things about quotation marks (compare
Fowler, Strunk, Columbia, Wired), as do various historic publications
(compare Shakespeare with the Bible).

FWIW, I have a fairly stong preference for ""s instead of ''s when
there's no computing or nesting reason not to.

> Well, I don't exactly agree here. Using or not using double spaces
> after periods is a matter of general style and consistency among
> packages, so this is why we include such changes.  [...]

I think I remember having complaints about early email-submitted copy
to both How-To books and GNU/Linux User and Developer when I used
double-spaces.  I still type them instinctively (I learned on
typewriter-style word processors), but it seemed not to be the done
thing for computer-based text.

Myself, I'd not take a strong line either way after full stops.

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Bug#428195: krb5: [debconf_rewrite] Debconf templates review

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Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > The sources I found (and IIRC the discussion we had) mention that
> > British English uses [singles ... ]
>
> Yes, correct.  This is a UK vs. US difference.  In the US, one writes:
> "The quotation should be 'last to go,'" he said.
> In the UK, as I understand it, one writes:
> 'The quotation should be "last to go,"' he said.

That's not my understanding from England.  Could someone post
references, please?

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Bug#428195: krb5: [debconf_rewrite] Debconf templates review

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I don't trust Wikipedia and I'm a bit sceptical of US reference claims
on English use elsewhere.

Finally (from me at least), I found a copy of Fowler's 1908 King's
English online with http://www.bartleby.com/116/406.html#2

There are single and double quotation marks, and, apart from minor
peculiarities, two ways of utilizing the variety. The prevailing
one is to use double marks for most purposes, and single ones for
quotations within quotations, [...] The more logical method is
that adopted, for instance, by the Oxford University Press, of
reserving the double marks exclusively for quotations within
quotations. [...]

So, leaving aside my dislike for the Oxford institutions'
(mis)handling of English ("more logical" indeed!), it seems that
single-v-double quotes has been open for at least a century now.

My opinion: each to their own.
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Bug#383316: Derivative works for songs

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Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> However, if the author says that it's a metal version of Ryu's theme, I
> think he means that the melody is the same, even though the musical
> genre is changed.
> *If* this is the case, I would call it a cover and hence I'm afraid it
> qualifies as an adaptation or derivative work of the original
> soundtrack, which is copyrighted by CAPCOM (most probably).
> 
> On Fri, 11 May 2007 16:05:34 +0100 Matthew Johnson wrote:
> > Obviously debian-legal are not lawyers, but I would appreciate your
> > opinions. I could just leave it out to be on the safe side, I could
> > leave it in, hope that the ftp-masters accept it and hope that nothing
> > comes of it or I could try and get an opinion from someone like SPI.
> 
> I would leave it out.

I agree.

> There's another issue with the remaining four songs, though.
> Is their source available?
> I mean: what's the preferred form[1] for making modifications to the
> songs?  Is this form available?

I hope that the scores are available, or a track-by-track recording,
to avoid any build-depends on Sony ACID Pro 5 in a really clear way.

However, for debian compilation of the game, isn't the preferred source
form the mixed recording?  The one used in the build?

Puzzled,
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Bug#463553: www.debian.org: partners/ Black Cat Networks have ceased ops?

[MJ Ray]

Package: www.debian.org
Tags: help

http://www.debian.org/partners/ includes Black Cat Networks and links
to http://www.blackcatnetworks.co.uk/ which says

  Black Cat Networks are pleased to announce that RapidSwitch have taken
  over running all our services. All sales and support enquiries for
  any of our services should be directed towards them.

Does their partners entry need changing?

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Bug#450945: mydns: new upstream with new version may solve memory problems

[MJ Ray]

Package: mydns-pgsql
Version: 1:1.1.0-7
Severity: wishlist
Tags: patch

Hi,

I was having some problems with mydns-pgsql 1:1.1.0-7 running under
OpenVZ hitting various memory limits.  While trying to debug it, I've
tried installing the new version 1.2.4 which may be a fork, see
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=4729b36f.9rlxdwZYEPt6ppb2%25mjr%40phonecoop.coop&forum_name=mydns-users

The changes to the debian directory from 1:1.1.0-7 are attached.
Feel free to ping me if you want to know whether it solved the
limits-hitting.  Initial signs are good.

Dependencies of mydns-pgsql:
ii  libc6  2.3.6.ds1-13et GNU C Library: Shared libraries
ii  libpq4 8.1.9-0etch1   PostgreSQL C client library
ii  postgresql-cli 7.5.22 front-end programs for PostgreSQL (transitio

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diff -ruN mydns-1.1.0/debian/changelog mydns-1.2.4/debian/changelog
--- mydns-1.1.0/debian/changelog2007-11-12 13:56:50.0 +
+++ mydns-1.2.4/debian/changelog2007-11-12 15:06:40.0 +
@@ -1,3 +1,14 @@
+mydns (1:1.2.4-1) unstable; urgency=low
+
+  * Port debian patches to new upstream's new version 1.2.4
+  * Update debian/patches/01-nogroup-fix.dpatch to match new source
+  * Remove debian/patches/03-mydnscheck-alias.dpatch due to upstream
+inclusion
+  * Add libecpg-dev to Build-Depends due to cidr.c:21 wanting
+pgtypes_timestamp.h
+
+ -- MJ Ray (Debian) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:06:34 +
+
 mydns (1:1.1.0-7) unstable; urgency=low
 
   * Added new translations, l10n-only update
diff -ruN mydns-1.1.0/debian/control mydns-1.2.4/debian/control
--- mydns-1.1.0/debian/control  2007-11-12 13:56:50.0 +
+++ mydns-1.2.4/debian/control  2007-11-12 14:56:39.0 +
@@ -2,7 +2,7 @@
 Section: net
 Priority: optional
 Maintainer: Philipp Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
-Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 4.1.68), libmysqlclient15-dev, zlib1g-dev, 
texinfo, po-debconf, libpq-dev, dpatch, autoconf, automake1.9
+Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 4.1.68), libmysqlclient15-dev, zlib1g-dev, 
texinfo, po-debconf, libpq-dev, dpatch, autoconf, automake1.9, libecpg-dev
 Build-Conflicts: autoconf2.13, automake1.4
 Standards-Version: 3.6.2
 
diff -ruN mydns-1.1.0/debian/patches/00list mydns-1.2.4/debian/patches/00list
--- mydns-1.1.0/debian/patches/00list   2007-11-12 13:56:50.0 +
+++ mydns-1.2.4/debian/patches/00list   2007-11-12 14:29:10.0 +
@@ -1,3 +1,2 @@
 01-nogroup-fix.dpatch
 02-disable-static-build.dpatch
-03-mydnscheck-alias.dpatch
diff -ruN mydns-1.1.0/debian/patches/01-nogroup-fix.dpatch 
mydns-1.2.4/debian/patches/01-nogroup-fix.dpatch
--- mydns-1.1.0/debian/patches/01-nogroup-fix.dpatch2007-11-12 
13:56:50.0 +
+++ mydns-1.2.4/debian/patches/01-nogroup-fix.dpatch2007-11-12 
14:20:56.0 +
@@ -4,14 +4,14 @@
 ## DP: Debian uses `nogroup' instead of `nobody' as the low-priviledge group
 
 @DPATCH@
 mydns/src/mydns/conf.c.orig2006-04-07 20:51:31.0 +0200
-+++ mydns/src/mydns/conf.c 2006-04-07 20:51:42.0 +0200
-@@ -68,7 +68,7 @@
- { "-",NULL,   
N_("GENERAL OPTIONS")},
+--- mydns/src/mydns/conf.c.orig2007-11-12 14:18:32.0 +
 mydns/src/mydns/conf.c 2007-11-12 14:18:44.0 +
+@@ -80,7 +80,7 @@
+ { "-",NULL,   N_("GENERAL 
OPTIONS")},
  
- { "user", "nobody",   
N_("Run with the permissions of this user")},
--{ "group","nobody",   
N_("Run with the permissions of this group")},
-+{ "group","nogroup",  
N_("Run with the permissions of this group")},
- { "listen",   "*",
N_("Listen on these addresses ('*' for all)"),  "bind"},
- { "no-listen","", 
N_("Do not listen on these addresses")},
+ { "user", "nobody",   N_("Run with 
the permissions of this user")},
+-{ "group","nobody",   N_("Run with 
the permissions of this group")},
++{ "group","nogr