Some help to help

2003-08-28 Thread Davide Viti
Hi,
lately I spent some spare time tryin' to understand how d-i works; I
downloaded it, read the documentation and tried to play with it. I got in
touch with the italian team responsable for the translation and translated a
few po files myself. I'd like to get involved with the developement/test
since I'm a programmer and I think I should have the required skills to give
my contribution.
I find really hard to get started: I understand that the priority is having
something working as soon as possible (i.e. concentrate in the developement)
but I think the documentation available at the moment lacks of some
important things.
I wanted to try a "make test" but I didn't know that you have to be in a sid
chroot to do that. Now I got it working but last night I tried to compile a
few components (main-menu, anna) and I couldn't compile with gcc 3.3.x ... I
could inside woody with 2.95.4 (after some fixes in the makefile) but I
cuoldn't link against libdebconfclient...

So I wonder if anyone could drop a few lines just to explain basic things...
another example: how do you guys debug d-i? a few tricks you find convenient

Thank for your help

Davide


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RE: Some help to help

2003-08-28 Thread Davide Viti
> Did you follow the instructions in build/README?

I did

> fakeroot make build
> fakeroot make image

I log as root
chroot /sid/ /bin/sh
cd to my debian-installer/build directory
ant run make demo (I had to copy libc6 to the tree created inside tmp to get
it working... thanx to somebody on irc)

> If so, did they work?  If not, how did they fail?

I'll try tonight (don't have my linux box at work)

but as I sayed before I couldn't compile inside main-menu (maybe "fakeroot
make build" and "fakeroot make image" will explain everything to me...)

thanx a lot
ciao
Davide


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gdb session

2003-08-29 Thread Davide Viti
Hi,
yesterday I asked a few things about getting started with d-i.
I thought it would be very instructive if anyone would be so kind to send me
a log of a typical gdb session... last night a managed to attach gdb to the
runninf process but had problems with symbols and so on

any help would be thoroughly appreciated

Davide

PS: if the log would be a waste of bandwidth on the mailing list please send
it directly to me!


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RE: gdb session

2003-08-29 Thread Davide Viti
> The symbols are loaded from the binary. You should compile the udeb you
> wish to debug yourself (with debug information),

I tried to run "make main-menu" in the chroot sid environment and had
problems with gcc3.3.something
inside woody (gcc 2.95.4) I had to fix a couple of include paths and I
managed to get the object files but had problems when linking because I
don't have libdebconfclient and I don't know how to build it

> Then run the installer and attach gdb to the running process. Perhaps you
have to
> insert some delay into the udeb's postinst code so that you have enough
> time to attach and set breakpoints.

> Attach like this gdb $UDEB $PID, where $UDEB is the unstripped
> executable (gdb loads symbols from it) and $PID is the process id of the
> running process.

I _think_ I'm not that far from it
thanx for your help Sebastian
maybe somebody on this list will have some spare time to send me such a
log... please!

ciao

d.


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Missing glyphs

2008-05-20 Thread Davide Viti
While generating the screenshots [1] showing how new dejavu renders text,
I've noticed there are some missing glyphs, at least for bn [2] and zh_CN [3];
it'd be interesting to know if it's a font problem (missing glyph) or an error
in the po file.

any hints from original translators??

regards,
Davide

[1] http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/gtk-frontend/screenshots/
[2] 
http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/gtk-frontend/screenshots/2.24-2_vs_2.25-1/common/bn.png
[3] 
http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/gtk-frontend/screenshots/2.24-2_vs_2.25-1/common/zh_CN.png


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Re: Missing glyphs

2008-05-22 Thread Davide Viti
Hi Jamil,

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 02:16:13AM +0600, Jamil Ahmed wrote:
> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Davide Viti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > While generating the screenshots [1] showing how new dejavu renders text,
> > I've noticed there are some missing glyphs, at least for bn [2] and zh_CN 
> > [3];
> > it'd be interesting to know if it's a font problem (missing glyph) or an 
> > error
> > in the po file.
> >
> > any hints from original translators??
> >
> 
> For bn [2], it seems "DOTTED CIRCLE (U+25CC)" glyph [4] is missing.
> 
> > regards,
> > Davide
> >
> > [1] http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/gtk-frontend/screenshots/
> > [2] 
> > http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/gtk-frontend/screenshots/2.24-2_vs_2.25-1/common/bn.png
> > [3] 
> > http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/gtk-frontend/screenshots/2.24-2_vs_2.25-1/common/zh_CN.png
> >
> 
> [4] http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/25cc/index.htm
> 

thanx, it has to be a  ttf-freefont bug then, will check that.

Davide



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Re: Missing glyphs

2008-05-29 Thread Davide Viti
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:05:46AM +0600, Jamil Ahmed wrote:
> On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Davide Viti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi Jamil,
> >
> > On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 12:49:13AM +0600, Jamil Ahmed wrote:
> >> On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 12:21 AM, Davide Viti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 09:39:57AM +0200, Davide Viti wrote:
> >> >> > For bn [2], it seems "DOTTED CIRCLE (U+25CC)" glyph [4] is missing.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > [1] http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/gtk-frontend/screenshots/
> >> >> > > [2] 
> >> >> > > http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/gtk-frontend/screenshots/2.24-2_vs_2.25-1/common/bn.png
> >> >> > > [3] 
> >> >> > > http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/gtk-frontend/screenshots/2.24-2_vs_2.25-1/common/zh_CN.png
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > [4] http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/25cc/index.htm
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> thanx, it has to be a  ttf-freefont bug then, will check that.
> >> >
> >> > the glyph is definitely not included in current ttf-freefont.
> >> > Is it a glyph normally found in Bengali text?
> >> >
> >>
> >> This glyph is used to indicate combining characters. So I guess all
> >> Indic language use it.
> >>
> >> Actually in your screenshot [2] that part shows wrong spelling. Check
> >> my attachment for details. :)
> >
> >
> > thanx for clarifying,
> > does that mean that the problem goes away fixing a typo?
> 
> No, that glyph will be still missing! :)

that's true; I was surprised not to find u+25cc among the codepoints
used in "bn", see "codepoints" column in :

http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/spellcheck/level1/index.html 

> 
> > Caould you please fix that?
> 
> Yes, I will try to fix the typo shortly.
> 

thank you,
Davide


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Re: Tibetan Machine Uni font sources for the new version (v1.901)

2008-06-10 Thread Davide Viti
On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 02:40:09PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Monday 09 June 2008, Tom Söderlund wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 11:06 +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 6 Jun 2008, Tom Söderlund wrote:
> > > > > [0] http://gamma.nic.fi/~t_om/debian/ttf-tmuni/
> > >
> > > if there are any major changes in the font that could affect the
> > > udeb or cause a significant change in its size, it would be nice to
> > > hear about those.
> >
> > The font file which is the sole content of the udeb package has grown a
> > bit over threefold from 1355768 bytes to 4511176 bytes.
> 
> Hmmm. That's not nice for the memory usage of the graphical installer.
> It would be good to look into that before the new version is uploaded.
> 
> Davide Viti is our current "fonts manager". Added him in CC in the hope 
> that he has time to contact you about this and see if that increase can 
> be reduced.

I've created PDF charts [1] for old and new version just to have a quick way
for comparing the two: new version does contain more glyphs indeed.

The obvious suggestion would be to introduce a mechanism fo stripping unneeded 
glyps
out of the udeb as we already do for ttf-dejavu [2] and ttf-freefont [3] 
packages.

3 megabytes difference is quite alot, and I'd like to dig a bit more to 
understand
if there's anything else which causes this increase: will probablyhave the 
chance
to work on this tomorrow evening.

BTW, I noticed the ttf file has been renamed from TibetanMachineUniAlpha.ttf to
TibMachUni-1.901b.ttf ; any particular reason for such change?

regards,
Davide

[1] http://alioth.debian.org/~zinosat-guest/ttf-tmuni/
[2] svn://svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-fonts/packages/ttf-dejavu
[3] svn://svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-fonts/packages/ttf-freefont


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Re: Tibetan Machine Uni font sources for the new version (v1.901)

2008-06-11 Thread Davide Viti
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 09:57:43PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> One comment: the name change means that the font selection script in 
> rootskel-gtk will need to be adjusted as well!

indeed

> Maybe we should implement a more generic mechanism where font udebs 
> include a file in a certain location in which they "declare" which 
> languages (by language code) they cover and which font size change is 
> desired. Only for languages where a font switch is needed of course.

sounds like an interesting idea
 
> Advantage would be that a font rename or other changes only has 
> consequences in a single package: the relevant udeb.

yes

> Davide: would you be willing to work something out for that?
> For transition we could probably first test if there is such a file and if 
> not, fall back to current hard-coded values.

Spare time is very limited lately, but will try to implement something.

regards,
Davide


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Re: Tibetan Machine Uni font sources for the new version (v1.901)

2008-06-11 Thread Davide Viti
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 09:32:03PM +0200, Davide Viti wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 02:40:09PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> > On Monday 09 June 2008, Tom Söderlund wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 11:06 +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, 6 Jun 2008, Tom Söderlund wrote:
> > > > > > [0] http://gamma.nic.fi/~t_om/debian/ttf-tmuni/
> > > >
> > > > if there are any major changes in the font that could affect the
> > > > udeb or cause a significant change in its size, it would be nice to
> > > > hear about those.
> > >
> > > The font file which is the sole content of the udeb package has grown a
> > > bit over threefold from 1355768 bytes to 4511176 bytes.
> > 
> > Hmmm. That's not nice for the memory usage of the graphical installer.
> > It would be good to look into that before the new version is uploaded.
> 
> I've created PDF charts [1] for old and new version just to have a quick way
> for comparing the two: new version does contain more glyphs indeed.
> 
> The obvious suggestion would be to introduce a mechanism fo stripping 
> unneeded glyps
> out of the udeb as we already do for ttf-dejavu [2] and ttf-freefont [3] 
> packages.
> 
> [1] http://alioth.debian.org/~zinosat-guest/ttf-tmuni/
> [2] svn://svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-fonts/packages/ttf-dejavu
> [3] svn://svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-fonts/packages/ttf-freefont

If you look at the above mentioned PDF charts, you'll notice that TONS of new
glyphs have been added to the "Private Use Area" (old version had only one 
"page" containing
glyphs, new version has 8 pages) and "Supplementary Private Use Area-A" which 
was not
covered at all in previous version, and now covers 10 pages.

I'm pretty sure we can reduce this font as to be smaller than it was in 
previous version, but
we must be careful not to remove needed ranges: I can help with this, but need 
some hints from
people using the font and knowing what is really needed.

Davide 


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Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-08 Thread Davide Viti
On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 06:01:54PM +0200, J??r??my Bobbio wrote:
> The attached patchset adds support for shells in the graphical
> installer: "Execute a shell" in menu, and rescue-mode shells can now be
> used in the graphical installer.

this is really great!

> cdebconf-gtk-terminal requires three new udebs on top of itself:
>  * ttf-dejavu-mono-udeb containing DejaVu monospaced font.
>349kB compressed, 624kB installed
>(might surely be reduced if Davide take a look at it.)
>http://people.debian.org/~lunar/ttf-dejavu_2.25-1_add_mono-udeb.diff.gz

right, will look at this. Does this mean that we have both to generate this
out of the ttf-dejavu package and strip unneeded glyphs out of it, right? 

regards,
Davide




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Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-08 Thread Davide Viti
On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 10:42:39PM +0200, Davide Viti wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 06:01:54PM +0200, J??r??my Bobbio wrote:
> > The attached patchset adds support for shells in the graphical
> > installer: "Execute a shell" in menu, and rescue-mode shells can now be
> > used in the graphical installer.
> 
> this is really great!
> 
> > cdebconf-gtk-terminal requires three new udebs on top of itself:
> >  * ttf-dejavu-mono-udeb containing DejaVu monospaced font.
> >349kB compressed, 624kB installed
> >(might surely be reduced if Davide take a look at it.)
> >http://people.debian.org/~lunar/ttf-dejavu_2.25-1_add_mono-udeb.diff.gz
> 
> right, will look at this. Does this mean that we have both to generate this
> out of the ttf-dejavu package and strip unneeded glyphs out of it, right? 

I've just taken a look at the patch and should have done it before replying to
your message: sorry for the noise!

Davide


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Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-09 Thread Davide Viti
Hi,

On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 10:42:39PM +0200, Davide Viti wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 06:01:54PM +0200, J??r??my Bobbio wrote:
> > The attached patchset adds support for shells in the graphical
> > installer: "Execute a shell" in menu, and rescue-mode shells can now be
> > used in the graphical installer.
> 
> this is really great!
> 
> > cdebconf-gtk-terminal requires three new udebs on top of itself:
> >  * ttf-dejavu-mono-udeb containing DejaVu monospaced font.
> >349kB compressed, 624kB installed
> >(might surely be reduced if Davide take a look at it.)
> >http://people.debian.org/~lunar/ttf-dejavu_2.25-1_add_mono-udeb.diff.gz
> 

I've worked on your patch and generated a test ttf-dejavu 2.25-2 package
whose files are available in [1]; there you will also find an updated
version of your patch and a pdf chart showing all the available glyphs.

As for the size, it got reduced alot:

-rw-r--r-- 1 zino zino   79102  9 lug 13:14 ttf-dejavu-mono-udeb_2.25-2_all.udeb
-rw-r--r-- 1 zino zino  135172  9 lug 13:14 
mono/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-dejavu/DejaVuSansMono.ttf

It'd be nice if somebody could take a look at the patch: if everything's ok 
I'll proceed with creating
the parckage and ping Christian for the upload.

regards,
Davide

[1] http://alioth.debian.org/~zinosat-guest/2.25-2-mono/


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Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-09 Thread Davide Viti
On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 03:56:28PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> I would not have thought anything higher than 2100 (inclusive, so after 
> general punctuation) will ever be needed in the context of a D-I shell.

I'm applying the same reduction script used for stripping 
ttf-dejavu-udeb_2.25-2_all.udeb;
if necessary, we can apply different rules rules for Mono (it's been already 
done in the
patch)

thanx,
Davide


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Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-11 Thread Davide Viti
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 07:53:33PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Wednesday 09 July 2008, Davide Viti wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 03:56:28PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> > > I would not have thought anything higher than 2100 (inclusive, so
> > > after general punctuation) will ever be needed in the context of a
> > > D-I shell.

I think you mean u210

> >
> > I'm applying the same reduction script used for stripping
> > ttf-dejavu-udeb_2.25-2_all.udeb; if necessary, we can apply different
> > rules rules for Mono (it's been already done in the patch)
> 
> I think a separate rule makes sense in this case as the usage is really 
> different. Also depends on what the extra gain is of course.

I changed the stripping rule (for mono) as to strip all but u0..u210

-rw-r--r--  1 zino zino37416 Jul 12 00:22 
ttf-dejavu-mono-udeb_2.25-2_all.udeb
-rw-r--r--root/root65920 2008-07-12 00:22 
./usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-dejavu/DejaVuSansMono.ttf
 
> Possibly some of the exclusions could also be used for all udebs?

I've stripped out more ranges which were included in 2.25; I'm sure
we can do better, but IMO it'd be risky at this point

Updated files available in [1] and all changes were committed
in ttf-dejavu repository [2] (I still left the UNRELEASED flag set)

regards,
Davide

[1] http://alioth.debian.org/~zinosat-guest/2.25-2-mono2/
[2] svn://svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-fonts/packages/ttf-dejavu/trunk


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Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-16 Thread Davide Viti
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 03:31:56PM +0200, J??r??my Bobbio wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 01:35:45AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> > - Chinese looks reasonable: fairly sharp but some characters are much
> >   brighter than others (varying from very dark grey to white); guess
> >   antialiasing would be needed?
> 
> I see that VteTerminal API has a VTE_ANTI_ALIAS_FORCE_ENABLE option, but
> it does not sound like a good idea to use it.  Davide, is there any
> special things that we should know about Chinese in DejaVu-Mono?

Dejavu* do not contain any glyph falling in the Chinee range, so I guess
they're taken out of the ttf-cjk-compact-udeb (which I guess is not monospaced)

regards,
Davide


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Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-21 Thread Davide Viti
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 08:04:29PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Sunday 20 July 2008, Jérémy Bobbio wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 01:47:17PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> > Current size numbers (with the last ttf-dejavu-mono-udeb):
> 
> That is still with the to-much-reduced font udeb, isn't it? Or did Davide 
> already provide a new version for you?

no, I haven't prepared any new updated udebs; fortunately this week I can spend
some time on debian stuff :)

regards,
Davide


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Re: [RFC] Add support for shells in the graphical installer

2008-07-23 Thread Davide Viti
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 02:04:59AM +0200, J??r??my Bobbio wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 08:04:29PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> > That is still with the to-much-reduced font udeb, isn't it? Or did Davide 
> > already provide a new version for you?
> 
> I have used the last one mentioned by Davide on the list, which is the
> too-much-reduced one, IIRC.

I've prepared a new package [1] (including pdf chart) and committed the 
changes to svn [2]; I think this is the best I can do at the moment, since
stripping too much would lead to problems similar to #428747, #411909 or #409509

Here some numbers:
73738  ttf-dejavu-mono-udeb_2.25-2_all.udeb
123660 DejaVuSansMono.ttf

I've managed to strip some more glyphs out of the other udeb, saving
around 44Kb out of the ttf files, so I think the situation is not too bad.

Upstream is about to come up with a new release (expected to be dropped next 
weekend): shall I wait for it or do you prefere going through 2.25-2 first?
I'm open to any option

regards,
Davide

[1] http://www.alioth.debian.org/~zinosat-guest/2.25-2-mono3/
[2] svn://svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-fonts/packages/ttf-dejavu/trunk



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Re: Tibetan Machine Uni font sources for the new version (v1.901)

2008-07-28 Thread Davide Viti
Hi
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:25:00PM +0200, Davide Viti wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 09:32:03PM +0200, Davide Viti wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 02:40:09PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> > > On Monday 09 June 2008, Tom Söderlund wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 11:06 +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> > > > > > On Fri, 6 Jun 2008, Tom Söderlund wrote:
> > > > > > > [0] http://gamma.nic.fi/~t_om/debian/ttf-tmuni/
> > > > >
> > > > > if there are any major changes in the font that could affect the
> > > > > udeb or cause a significant change in its size, it would be nice to
> > > > > hear about those.
> > > >
> > > > The font file which is the sole content of the udeb package has grown a
> > > > bit over threefold from 1355768 bytes to 4511176 bytes.
> > > 
> > > Hmmm. That's not nice for the memory usage of the graphical installer.
> > > It would be good to look into that before the new version is uploaded.
> > 
> > I've created PDF charts [1] for old and new version just to have a quick way
> > for comparing the two: new version does contain more glyphs indeed.
> > 
> > The obvious suggestion would be to introduce a mechanism fo stripping 
> > unneeded glyps
> > out of the udeb as we already do for ttf-dejavu [2] and ttf-freefont [3] 
> > packages.
> > 
> > [1] http://alioth.debian.org/~zinosat-guest/ttf-tmuni/
> > [2] svn://svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-fonts/packages/ttf-dejavu
> > [3] svn://svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-fonts/packages/ttf-freefont
> 
> If you look at the above mentioned PDF charts, you'll notice that TONS of new
> glyphs have been added to the "Private Use Area" (old version had only one 
> "page" containing
> glyphs, new version has 8 pages) and "Supplementary Private Use Area-A" which 
> was not
> covered at all in previous version, and now covers 10 pages.
> 
> I'm pretty sure we can reduce this font as to be smaller than it was in 
> previous version, but
> we must be careful not to remove needed ranges: I can help with this, but 
> need some hints from
> people using the font and knowing what is really needed.
> 
> Davide 


so,
I've finally found some time to look again at this and wrote some notes [1] 
while
trying to work on it. Results look promising (back to ~1.3 Mb) and I know we 
can 
do much better: which other ranges can we safely remove?

regards,
Davide

[1] http://www.alioth.debian.org/~zinosat-guest/dwiki/tibetan_machine/


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[EMAIL PROTECTED]: [DejaVu-fonts] DejaVu Fonts 2.13 released]

2006-12-17 Thread Davide Viti
FYI

regards,
Davide

PS: as you can see this release contains a lot of fixes, so I hope it'll make 
in Etch

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DejaVu Fonts 2.13 have been released.


A lot of bugfixes were done during this release, including improvements 
in Cyrillic and Latin glyph shapes, and numerous issues MS Font 
Validator pointed out. New glyphs include a few Latin letter, arrow 
symbols and some Canadian syllabics.

Also some issues were fixed to make the fonts work nicely with the 
latest FontConfig-2.4.2, which will put the condensed fonts into their 
proper Sans/Serif family. KDE users won't be able to select the 
condensed fonts anymore with the latest FontConfig since Qt cannot 
handle them.


For a full list of changes, go to
http://dejavu.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/News

To download the fonts, check out
http://dejavu.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Download

The next release is scheduled for Sunday January 14th, 2006

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [DejaVu-fonts] DejaVu Fonts 2.13 released]

2006-12-19 Thread Davide Viti
On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 01:24:09PM +1030, Clytie Siddall wrote:
> Many thanks to Peter, and welcome to Davide! :)

thanx
 
> We've seen a lot of progress with the devavu font package in the past  
> few months. It is currently the best free-software pan-Unicode font  
> displaying Vietnamese, which is a testament to the dedicated efforts  
> of its developers to respond to the specific needs of different  
> languages. I recommend it as the appropriate default-install font for  
> my language.

yes, I'm really excited about dejavu: it's very well maintained, has a 
monthly release cycle and the excellent #dejavu channel on Freenode with
very helpful people

> Davide's regular posts to the deb18n list, asking for feedback on the  
> increasingly familiar D-I screenshot, deserved a good outcome. 

The screenshots are very g-i oriented; I'd like to set up something more 
general...
more about this in the near future

> Where are we with dejavu and different languages? Is there any
> language represented in Debian which still has display issues with
> dejavu?

Christian's message gave you a good overview of the coverage; worth mentioning
about [1] for a complete per-language information.

As for the future of Dejavu, it already includes Arabic scripts (not used in 
g-i)
which need to be improved; ppl are working on designing Georgian fonts which 
will
be integrate in Dejavu, there are rumors about Bengali support.

ciao,
Davide

[1] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/GUIFonts


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Re: [l10n][translations][spellcheck] is it possible to add dictionaries from Etch?

2006-12-20 Thread Davide Viti
Hi Eddy,

>I have made a package for aspell-ro and has entered the archive just in time 
to enter Etch. I was
>wondering if now Romanian could be spellchecked by using the package in Etch. 
The package should
>work without problems on Sarge.

If you get the alioth admins to install it, I'll be happy to make sure it's 
used by the spellchecker;
an alternative to this would be to install it on a custom dir (~me/somewhere) 
and instruct
aspell to use it: I don't know if it's possible and/or how to do that, but 
again, I'd be happy
to do it if you know how to do it 

thanx for your work,
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[g-i] new screenshots available (dejavu 2.13)

2006-12-22 Thread Davide Viti
I took some screenshots using latest dejavu 2.13; please refer to [1]
to see what changed since version 2.12.

The screenshots can be found in [2], and in case you wanted to compare them to 
those
taken using the previous version, see [3]

feedback is very welcome
regards,

Davide

[1] http://dejavu.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/News
[2] http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/gtk-frontend/screenshots/20061222_dejavu2.13
[3] http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/gtk-frontend/screenshots/20061128_dejavu2.12


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Re: r43656 - trunk/scripts/l10n/l10n-spellcheck/cfg/level1/wls

2006-12-30 Thread Davide Viti
On Fri, Dec 29, 2006 at 09:50:06PM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote:
> Quoting Davide Viti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
...
> > Log:
> > Some more warning removal
> 
> 
> I don't understand, Davide. I was thinking that words with hyphens and
> dots are OK in the individual language files. Which is why I added
> these to these languages lists
> 

It's something language dependent (actually depends on how
aspell-${lang} has been configured); some languages accept words
containing both "-" and "." others accept one or none of them; here
are some examples:

"fr" words can use both "-" and "."
"nl" wordlists can have words containing "-" but does not accept words 
containing "."
"it" can't use neither "-" not "."

If all languages could use such characters inside words, we could put
those words in the common wordlist.

I think the file where you can configure which caracters can be
containet in the iddle of a word is  /usr/lib/aspell/${lang}.dat

*** fr.dat ***
name fr
charset iso8859-1
special ' -*-  . -*- - -*-
soundslike fr

*** nl ***
name nl
charset iso8859-1
special - -*- ' -*-
soundslike generic
run-together-limit 2
run-together-min 3
affix nl
affix-compress true
repl-table nl_affix.dat

*** it.dat ***
name it
charset iso8859-15
special ' -**
soundslike none
affix  it
affix-compress true

this is something I wanted to dig into a couple of years ago...
Obviously, if we wanted to fix this in all languages, it would involve
re-uploading all dictionaries; another options would be using a local .dat 
file, but I don't know if it's possible to do that.

ciao,
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Re: Bug#403404: [Debian-in-workers] Bug#403404: ttf-malayalam: error while opening ttf file with fontforge

2006-12-30 Thread Davide Viti
Hi Praveen,
I'm bringing the discussion also in debian-boot

On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 03:27:57AM +0530, പ്രവീണ്‍‌|Praveen wrote:
> 2006/12/22, Davide Viti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >http://www.webalice.it/zinosat/g-i/rachana_w01_otf.iso
> >
> >please give us some more feedback.
> >
> We have tested the ISOs and faced some major pango rendering issues
> (incorrect rendering of some conjuncts). These were introduced in the
> latest pango to fix bugs in lohit_ml font used in Fedora Core 6 (we
> have tested that font and it doesn't render properly even in QT which
> has so far the best rendering support for Malayalam and both Rachana
> and Anjali  renders properly with the proposed patch). We have
> provided a fix for pango  and hope to get it accepted before etch. The
> bug id is #404727

Your patch for #404727 has been included in the latest upload of pango, which
just hit unstable. I created an iso including it:

http://www.webalice.it/zinosat/g-i/malayalam_pango_fix.iso

If you can test it, please let us know if things are working ok.

regards,
Davide

PS: 
here's the md5sum of the iso
1533b6ce907b4bf4bc341b5fc69d5be3


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Typos in installation guide

2007-01-01 Thread Davide Viti
Hi,
I just spotted a few typos in the English version of the manual;
in case anyone wanted to do the same here's how I've done it

  for file in $(find  -name "*.xml") ; do
  aspell list --lang=en --encoding=utf-8  < ${file} >> unkn.txt
  done
  
  sort unkn.txt | uniq -c > aa.txt
  mv aa.txt unkn.txt

I'm not sure if the following are typos or not:

- appendix/plip.xml:ifconfig plip0 192.168.0.2 
pointopoint 

is it "pointtopoint" ?

- install-methods/floppy/m68k.xml:You'll find the &rawwrite.ttp; program

is it "rawrite" ?

I'm pretty sure about the typos fixed with the attached patch,
regards,

Davide


Index: install-methods/boot-usb-files.xml
===
--- install-methods/boot-usb-files.xml	(revision 43740)
+++ install-methods/boot-usb-files.xml	(working copy)
@@ -64,7 +64,7 @@
 an HFS filesystem
 on it, and copy a Debian netinst or businesscard ISO image to it.
 Please note that the file name must end in .iso.
-Unmount the stick (umount /mnt) and you are done.
+Umount the stick (umount /mnt) and you are done.
 
 
   
Index: appendix/chroot-install.xml
===
--- appendix/chroot-install.xml	(revision 43740)
+++ appendix/chroot-install.xml	(working copy)
@@ -35,7 +35,7 @@
 drive as needed, creating at least one filesystem plus swap. You
 need around 350MB of space available for a console only install,
 or about 1GB if you plan to install X (more if you intend to
-install destop environments like GNOME or KDE).
+install desktop environments like GNOME or KDE).
 
 
 
Index: appendix/files.xml
===
--- appendix/files.xml	(revision 43740)
+++ appendix/files.xml	(working copy)
@@ -189,7 +189,7 @@
  Sizes of tasks should be determined by running tasksel with the "new-install"
  option on a system that been fully installed without selecting any tasks. By
  selecting a task together with the "manual selection" option, aptitude will
- be started and show the sizes for the task. Use "cancel panding actions" to
+ be started and show the sizes for the task. Use "cancel pending actions" to
  clear the slate, quit aptitude and repeat for other tasks.
  Space requirements need to be determined from tasksel as tasksel will not
  install recommended packages while selecting a task from aptitude will.
Index: appendix/preseed.xml
===
--- appendix/preseed.xml	(revision 43740)
+++ appendix/preseed.xml	(working copy)
@@ -2,7 +2,7 @@
 
 
 

Re: [DejaVu-fonts] DejaVu fonts 2.14 release

2007-01-21 Thread Davide Viti
FYI

regards,
Davide

PS: I'm working on preparing the Debian package, which will be uploaded
to unstable once version 2.13-1 moves to testing

On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 07:40:09PM +0100, Denis Jacquerye wrote:
> DejaVu fonts 2.14 have been released.
> 
> This release adds new Unicode 5.0 adjustments and characters, new Lao
> characters, new Latin characters (mostly precomposed glyphs to Mono),
> new Symbols, some glyph improvements and fixes somes bugs.
> 
> For a full list of changes, go to
> http://dejavu.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/News
> 
> To download the fonts, check out
> http://dejavu.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Download
> 
> The next release is scheduled for Sunday February 18th, 2007
> 
> SVN is open again
> 
> Have a good day,
> 
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ttf-dejavu: what's next?

2007-01-23 Thread Davide Viti
Today ttf-dejavu 2.13-1 has been migrated into testing (yay!);
version 2.14 has just been released upstream and I've worked
on packaging the new version.

In the meanwhile Frans, has spotted some problems (see [1]) with the
oblique variant which are being worked on; of those problems, the
extra space between "d" and "u" is the most annoying and IMO it'd be
nice if it could be fixed for the version of dejavu used with etch.

We have a couple of options:

* stick with 2.13 and work on packaging a new version (2.13-2) with a
  backported version of the patch

* move to 2.14 with a backported version of the patch (backported since current 
  developement is towards 2.15)

Either way, the next version will contain fixes for the following bugs:

#406741 (new package description)
#407854 (more ranges stripped out of the udeb)

If you have suggestions while waiting for the patch let me know

regards,
Davide

[1] 
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=31509063&forum_id=40874


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[g-i] new screenshots available (dejavu 2.14)

2007-02-02 Thread Davide Viti
I took some screenshots using latest dejavu 2.14; please refer to [1]
to see what changed since version 2.13.

The screenshots can be found in [2], and in case you wanted to compare them to 
those
taken using the previous version, see [3]

feedback is very welcome
regards,

Davide

PS: Jamil, fontsize for "bn" should be ok :)

[1] http://dejavu.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/News
[2] http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/gtk-frontend/screenshots/20070202_dejavu2.14
[3] http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/gtk-frontend/screenshots/20061222_dejavu2.13


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Re: [g-i] new screenshots available (dejavu 2.14)

2007-02-04 Thread Davide Viti
On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 03:42:01AM +0200, Eddy Petrișor wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Davide Viti wrote:
> > I took some screenshots using latest dejavu 2.14; please refer to [1]
> > to see what changed since version 2.13.
> > 
> > The screenshots can be found in [2], and in case you wanted to compare them 
> > to those
> > taken using the previous version, see [3]
> 
> > [2] 
> > http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/gtk-frontend/screenshots/20070202_dejavu2.14
> > [3] 
> > http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/gtk-frontend/screenshots/20061222_dejavu2.13
> 
> For Romanian the character "a breve" ("ă") is badly rendered (as if a
> one pixel wide vertical line was cut out though the center of the glyph
> and pieces). This is was not present in 2.14

As eplained in #409509, the problem has nothing to do with 2.14 upstream, but 
it's a problem 
introduced by me when stripping out the wrong range out of the udeb.
Please use the following links to compare 2.13 vs 2.14

http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/gtk-frontend/screenshots/20070203_dejavu2.13
http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/gtk-frontend/screenshots/20070204_dejavu2.14_prerelease

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Re: failed to test the graphical installer from local directory

2007-02-08 Thread Davide Viti
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 02:28:52PM +0100, Attilio Fiandrotti wrote:
> Vern Sun wrote:
> Given the great number of environmental variables involved, could you 
> please first check that the regular gtk miniiso boots on your system ?
> 
> >>I think some more error output is needed; 
> >>
> >
> >I don't yet know enough about d-i and DirectFB both. If you don't mind, can
> >you tell me what steps to take to properly troubleshoot.
> 
> First, i suggest you to ssh into your test machine from another one, do 
> the chroot and start the installer from remote: you'll be able to see 
> error messages that otherwise you wouldn't.
> 
> Attilio

last time I've tried it, I had to apply the following patch. 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/gtk-trunk/installer/build/tmp/netboot-gtk/tree/etc$ diff -u 
directfbrc.orig directfbrc
--- directfbrc.orig 2007-02-08 19:16:44.0 +0100
+++ directfbrc  2007-02-08 19:16:58.0 +0100
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
-no-hardware
+# no-hardware
 bg-color=ffdcdad5
 screenshot-dir=/var/log
-disable-module=keyboard
-disable-module=ps2mouse
+# disable-module=keyboard
+# disable-module=ps2mouse
 #disable-module=linux_input


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Re: Extending accessibility support in D-I for Lenny

2007-02-14 Thread Davide Viti
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 03:31:59PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
> We should still aim to keep the regular G-I as lean and mean as possible. 
> We can gain a _lot_ (in the newt frontend too) by reducing the memory 
> used for translations.

I did some more research on the font tip and I think we can still gain alot
on this area too just by carefully and properly stripping out unneeded glyphs;
if we decided to remove bold (and/or) oblique variants and rely on fontsize
for emphasizing text, we could obtain excellent reduction of memory footprint


regards,
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]: [DejaVu-fonts] DejaVu Fonts 2.15 released]

2007-02-18 Thread Davide Viti
FYI,
regards,
Davide

PS: I'm working on the debian package which will be ready in the next few days

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Subject: [DejaVu-fonts] DejaVu Fonts 2.15 released


DejaVu Fonts 2.15 have been released.


This release marks improved support for Canadian Aboriginal syllabics in 
Sans, improved hinting of Sans Oblique and improved handling of 
combining diacritics in Mono Book (i.e. without the trailing space), 
and a few issues with some glyph contours were fixed.


For a full list of changes, go to
http://dejavu.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/News

To download the fonts, check out
http://dejavu.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Download


The next release is scheduled for Sunday April 1st, 2006 (that's 6 weeks 
from now, instead of the usual 4).


SVN is open again.

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ttf-dejavu 2.15-1

2007-02-26 Thread Davide Viti
I'm posting the results for the tests I've run to make sure the new
version of ttf-dejavu (2.15-1, currently in unstable) does not
introduce any regression and can safely migrate into testing.

I've taken screenshots using both deb and udeb packages and organized
them this way (use [1] as root directory)

2.14-2
  |_ deb
  |
  |_ udeb

2.15-1
  |_ deb
  |
  |_ udeb

2.14-2_vs_2.15-1
  |_ deb
  |
  |_ udeb


changes can be found by looking directly at the pictures in 2.14-2_vs_2.15-1
which were obtained via 

   compare 2.14-2/${file} 2.15-1/${file} 2.14-2_vs_2.15-1/diff_${file}

and are marked in red colour; you'll see that

- Kazakh (kk) misses instructions for some glyphs in the 2.14-2 udeb:
  that is #411909 and is fixed with 2.15-1

- Hebrew (he) has changed from 2.14-2 to 2.15-1:
  changes can't be seen to the naked eye and are explained by one
  of the upstream developers in [2]

Note that there are no differences between deb and udeb when using 2.15-1
(i.e. glyphs are safely stripped out of the original ttf)

2.15-1 includes also a fix for #411308 (see [3])

regards,
Davide

[1] http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/gtk-frontend/screenshots/
[2] 
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=31698300&forum_id=40874
[3] 
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi/DejaVuSerif.png?bug=411308;msg=56;att=1

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Bug#415127: installation-report: Graphical install does not work on Apple MacBook

2007-03-19 Thread Davide Viti
>> The graphical installer didn't work. After trying several parameter
>> combinations, I used the default text installer.
>
>To be honest, that does not completely surprise me. AFAIK the graphical 
>installer has never been tried on Intel-based Macs yet.
>
>It is a bit strange as the graphics controller seems fairly standard.

IIRC the problem is current kernel support for framebuffer; I played with that
a few months ago and gave up being the laptop the only machine I have.
For those interested in Debian on Macbook see [1];  feel also free to add the 
missing
infos about framebuffer support in case you played with it.

regards,
Davide

[1] http://wiki.debian.org/MacBook


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Adding spellchecker stats to existing d-i stats

2006-04-27 Thread Davide Viti
I'd be interested in adding infos obtained with the spellchecker to
the statistics pages, so that everytime a new error is spotted translators
know about it.
ATM seppy's script comes up with the following:

...
Global statistics: 1593t2f0u (99%) (total strings: 1595=100%)
(From all it.po files)

Master: 1462t2fu
Spellcheck:  unknown words in master file..
...

Currently, the spellchecker page (see [1]) reports various columns;
the relevant information needed to produce useful stats is contained in
the following columns:

"Unknown words" - available only for languages with an aspell-lang
dictionary
"Suspect variables" 
"Specific checks" 
"Codepoints" - not sure this is needed but might be useful anyway

I just modified the scripts as to produce numerical information for the
above columns (can't commit since svn is not working).
Now, the above infos should be fetched and the line saying
"Spellcheck:  unknown words in master file.."

should be changed into something like (for example)
"Spellcheck:  3u5v12s149c"

languages with no aspell dictionary should be probably handled 
differently: maybe using "-1u". 
let me know what you think about this.
I guess the WebSec-txt script should be  working (almost) out of the box.

ciao,
Davide

[1] http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/spellcheck/level1/index.html



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Re: Debian Installer team monthly meeting minutes (20060429 meeting)

2006-05-02 Thread Davide Viti
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 07:59:54PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
> Work on fonts should now be finalized by Davide. If he needs some
> help, some other people could bring manpower.

yes, it's time to finalize fonts indeed!
So, the plan is to start making dejavu (11pt) the default font 
for g-i.
More on this in the next few days.

Ciao,
Davide


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Re: Adding spellchecker stats to existing d-i stats

2006-05-03 Thread Davide Viti
Il Fri, 28 Apr 2006 01:40:14 +0200, Davide Viti ha scritto:

> I'd be interested in adding infos obtained with the spellchecker to
> the statistics pages, so that everytime a new error is spotted translators
> know about it.
> ATM seppy's script comes up with the following:

I think the simplest way to extract numrical infos about the spellchecker
would be grabbing a copy of:
http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/spellcheck/level1/latest/stats.txt

here's the first few lines:

ar -1 3 135 2
be -1 0 129 0
bg 288 0 144 0
bn -1 0 152 1
bs -1 0 97 1
ca 467 0 103 0
...

column1: lanuage code
column2: number of unknown words (-1 if the lang has no aspell dictionary)
column3: number of wrong variables
column4: number of codepoints
column5: number of level-specific wrong msgstr

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Re: Fixing comma errors...

2006-05-04 Thread Davide Viti
Hi Christian,

>I don't understand your revert, Frans. It seems to me that the fix was
>correct. There's a strange comma in the first choice of the first
>string but I think you're OK escaping it

I actually agree with Frans and I'd prefere if it would be fixed by a native 
speaker;
there are quite a few of those errors which I'd be tempted to fix myself but 
I'm not
100% sure. The risk would be to hide an error which might take ages to be 
found
and properly fixed.

ciao,
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Spellchecker: added check for unmatched pairs

2006-05-04 Thread Davide Viti
I just committed a patch which makes it possible
to look for unmatched pairs; ATM it checks for
 () [] « »  and \"

there are other combinations which are language specific i.e:
'' „“  and others.

87 new errors have been spotted: please take some time to fix those (see [1]).
ATM the check has not been extended to levels other than level1.

regards,
Davide

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[g-i] Segfault: missing symbol

2006-05-07 Thread Davide Viti
A few days ago I realized g-i was building but caused
a segfault when running debconf.
Using an unstripped version of libc the segfault disappeared, meaning
that some needed symbol was stripped from libc. Hopefully I found out
what is missing:

~ # debconf -o d-i /usr/bin/main-menu
/build/buildd/cdebconf-0.100/src/frontend.c:175 (frontend_new): Cannot load 
frontend module /usr/lib/cdebconf/frontend/gtk.so: /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1: 
symbol iconv_open, version GLIBC_2.1 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link 
time reference

hope this helps,
Davide


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Re: [g-i] Segfault: missing symbol

2006-05-07 Thread Davide Viti
On Sun, May 07, 2006 at 05:13:08PM +0200, Davide Viti wrote:
> ~ # debconf -o d-i /usr/bin/main-menu
> /build/buildd/cdebconf-0.100/src/frontend.c:175 (frontend_new): Cannot load 
> frontend module /usr/lib/cdebconf/frontend/gtk.so: 
> /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1: symbol iconv_open, version GLIBC_2.1 not defined 
> in file libc.so.6 with link time reference

I tried to rebuild fontconfig-2.3.2 without stripping debug symbols and the 
missing symbol is
definitely referenced from there:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/fontconfig$ nm -g test/usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 | grep 
iconv
 U iconv_close@@GLIBC_2.1
 U iconv@@GLIBC_2.1
 U iconv_open@@GLIBC_2.1

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Re: D-I spellchecker: separate "critical" errors from cosmetic ones

2006-05-07 Thread Davide Viti
Hi Christian,

On Sun, May 07, 2006 at 09:04:26AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
> ...
> 
> Among these, some are "critical" such as the wrong number of choices,
> which can break some D-I screens, while others are more cosmetci (a
> too long string is simply cut and thereforre does not "break D-I").
> 
> Could you separate those in different lists?

yes, sure.
Actually many improvements have to be done: for example, check for unbalanced
braces and such should not be performed on level1, but should be extended to
all levels.

Let's start identifying what has to be considered critical: apart the obvious
number of choices in multiselect messages, should the wrong variables considered
critical?

ciao,
Davide


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Bug#366441: Mklibs: should not remove symbol iconv_open

2006-05-08 Thread Davide Viti
Package: mklibs
Version: 0.1.20
Severity: important
Tags: d-i

mklibs is stripping the iconv_open symbol from glibc causing debconf to 
segfault:

~ # debconf -o d-i /usr/bin/main-menu
/build/buildd/cdebconf-0.100/src/frontend.c:175 (frontend_new): 
Cannot load frontend module /usr/lib/cdebconf/frontend/gtk.so: 
/usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1: 
symbol iconv_open, version GLIBC_2.1 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link 
time reference


I tried to rebuild fontconfig-2.3.2 without stripping debug symbols and the 
missing symbol is
definitely referenced from there:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/fontconfig$ nm -g test/usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 | grep 
iconv_open
 U iconv_open@@GLIBC_2.1

Let me know if there's any other info I can provide
regards,

Davide


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Re: [g-i] Segfault: missing symbol

2006-05-08 Thread Davide Viti
> Shouldn't this issue be in a BR?

I filed #366441 against mklibs

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Re: [g-i] Add the needed fonts for Khmer/Dzongkha/Thai to the fonts used to build g-i?

2006-05-08 Thread Davide Viti
Hi Christian,

On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 06:54:38PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
> Davide,
> 
> Could you add the needed fonts for Khmer/Dzongkha and Thai to the set
> of fonts used by G-I.

it took me awhile but I just added the needed fonts for displaying Dzongkha
(ttf-dzongkha-udeb [0.2-2]) and Thai (ttf-thai-tlwg_0.4.4-3).
Khmer fonts were already used (ttf-khmeros_3.10-2).

g-i ATM is broken because of #366441 but as soon as that gets fixed all 
languages
should have the needed fonts.
I'm currently working on making ttf-dejavu the default fonts for g-i

ciao,
Davide


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Bug#366441: Mklibs: should not remove symbol iconv_open

2006-05-09 Thread Davide Viti
>I recomment to do desparate actions like `make really-clean`, `svn
>update`, `make clean`.  With some luck you get a working d-i again.

tried that already and seems like ppc is broken as well (see [1]) even
if it is not confirmed that the cause of the problem is the same

>If the problem presists, then try to rebuild libfontconfig
>with iconv_open defined otherwise. Something 
>  external iconv_open
>or other type casting I don't understand (yet??)

I'll give it a try, thanx.

>What I'm trying to say is that mklibs works fine (due some magic)
Does that mean mklibs is bug free?

regards,
Davide

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/05/msg00199.html







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Bug#366441: Mklibs: should not remove symbol iconv_open

2006-05-09 Thread Davide Viti
On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 10:24:28PM +0200, Davide Viti wrote:
> Package: mklibs
> Version: 0.1.20
> Severity: important
> Tags: d-i
> 
> mklibs is stripping the iconv_open symbol from glibc causing debconf to 
> segfault:
> 
> ~ # debconf -o d-i /usr/bin/main-menu
> /build/buildd/cdebconf-0.100/src/frontend.c:175 (frontend_new): 
> Cannot load frontend module /usr/lib/cdebconf/frontend/gtk.so: 
> /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1: 
> symbol iconv_open, version GLIBC_2.1 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link 
> time reference
> 
> 
> I tried to rebuild fontconfig-2.3.2 without stripping debug symbols and the 
> missing symbol is
> definitely referenced from there:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/fontconfig$ nm -g test/usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 | grep 
> iconv_open
>  U iconv_open@@GLIBC_2.1

I've rebuilt the gtk-miniiso (i386) using a version of mklibs where
"debuglevel = DEBUG_SPAM" has been set; the file is around 500Kb and
can be grabbed from:

http://www.webalice.it/zinosat/mklibs_iconv_en.gz

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[g-i] problems using dejavu as default font

2006-05-10 Thread Davide Viti
After spending some time trying to switch g-i as to use ttf-dejavu as
default font, I'm writing down the infos I collected so far hoping
someone will help getting it to work.

The current set of fonts uses ttf-freefont as default and a very old
version of dejavu font (IIRC something lik 2.2); for my tests, I use
an environment containing only dejavu and freefont ttf files and play
with /etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc to decide which font to use as a default:

gtk-font-name="BitstreamCharter 12" # if I want to use dejavu
gtk-font-name="FreeSans 12" # if I want to use freefont

Using the current version of ttf-dejavu (2.4.1-1) the frontend crashes
when dejavu is set as default font but if freefont is set as default font,
all languages displayed via dejavu 2.4.1-1 just work fine.

I've asked for some help on #dejavu and been told pango > 1.11 (which
added OpenType features support to Latin script) is the cause of many
problems and they suggested to try DejaVuSansLGC: the frontend does
not crash but the image just freezes without displaying all the text in
the main menu and once I get control back I see this:

debconf: dl-close.c:202: _dl_close: Assertion `(*lp)->l_idx >= 0 && 
(*lp)->l_idx < nloaded' failed.
(!) [12134:0.000] --> Caught signal 6 (sent by pid 12134, uid 0) <--
Killed

I tried to use dejavu 2.5 and the problem remains

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Re: [g-i] problems using dejavu as default font

2006-05-10 Thread Davide Viti
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 11:00:39PM +0200, Davide Viti wrote:
> Using the current version of ttf-dejavu (2.4.1-1) the frontend crashes
> when dejavu is set as default font but if freefont is set as default font,
> all languages displayed via dejavu 2.4.1-1 just work fine.

if it can be of any help I took some strace output:

>>> Using freefont as default font (i.e. it works) <<<<
gettimeofday({1147301930, 647066}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1147301930, 647101}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1147301930, 647147}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1147301930, 647584}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1147301930, 647614}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1147301930, 647638}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1147301930, 648157}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1147301930, 648197}, NULL) = 0
kill(13541, SIGRTMIN)   = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, NULL, [RTMIN], 8) = 0
rt_sigsuspend([] 
--- SIGUSR1 (User defined signal 1) @ 0 (0) ---
<... rt_sigsuspend resumed> )   = -1 EINTR (Interrupted system call)
kill(13539, SIGRTMIN)   = 0
kill(13539, SIGRTMIN)   = 0
sigreturn() = ? (mask now [RTMIN])
rt_sigsuspend([] 
+++ killed by SIGKILL +++

>>> Using dejavu as default font (i.e. it crashes) <<<<
gettimeofday({1147301633, 879871}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1147301633, 879901}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1147301633, 879925}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1147301633, 880318}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1147301633, 880348}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1147301633, 880372}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1147301633, 880881}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1147301633, 880909}, NULL) = 0
kill(13447, SIGRTMIN)   = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, NULL, [RTMIN], 8) = 0
rt_sigsuspend([] 
+++ killed by SIGKILL +++

If you need more context here you can grab the full log of the crash:

http://www.webalice.it/zinosat/dejavu_crash.gz

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Re: [g-i] problems using dejavu as default font

2006-05-11 Thread Davide Viti
I just tried to use dejavu 2.5 inside an unofficial
environment based on the latest libs (gtk+ 2.9 and such)
and it does _not_ crash anylonger: I don't know if that's
a bad or good news.
It means that it probably does not make sense to keep on 
fighting with fonts before g-i based on the new libs is out.

the first release will look a bit unconsistent as far as fonts are
concerned, but at least we do support _all_ languages which is a great
plus indeed.

one more lesson learnt: before spent debugging things with the old libs
give a go to the new ones.

Ciao,
Davide


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Re: [G-I] Udeb dependency resolution issue resolved!

2006-05-14 Thread Davide Viti
Hey Frans,

On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 05:04:24AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> Today I've been able to upload cdebconf with updated dependencies and 
> built the graphical installer *without any localudebs* :-)
> This means we've finally arrived at the point where we can integrate the 
> graphical installer into trunk.

excellent news, really!
as Attilio pointed out, next milestone should be switching to the latest libs,
and things are already moving in the right direction:

- directfb backend has been integrated in the main CVS repository and the first
  official release containing it, 2.9.0,  is out (is an unstable release, see 
[1])

- as far as fonts are concerned, current g-i covers all the languages supported 
by
  the installer, including the latest Thai and Dzongkha. Consistency is not at 
its
  best; I've put alot of effort trying to switch g-i as to use Dejavu fonts as 
default
  rather than freefont but that's another area where we've taken the current 
libs to
  their limits. I've managed to get this working out of the box using an 
unofficial
  iso based on the latest libs, but using the official libs, debconf just dies 
(see [2])

Ciao,
Davide

[1] http://www.gtk.org/
[2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/05/msg00256.html



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Re: Proposal for integration of the graphical installer

2006-05-14 Thread Davide Viti
On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 11:23:52PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> - Using the font tarballs is OK for the short run, but now that we
>   are integrating g-i we really need to switch to using udebs.
>   This should be finished before the Etch RC1 release.

I'll try to come up with more detail asap.
Basically we cannot use dejavu as default fonts but we need to 
stick to freefont; both dejavu and freefont exist as an udeb,
we might just need to strip away some glyphs to reduce the size.

AFAICT the only package that needs an official udeb is ttf-thai-tlwg,
but I know Christian is ready to help with this.

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Re: graphics or text as default?

2006-05-15 Thread Davide Viti
hi,

On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 01:55:50PM +0200, Xavier Oswald wrote:
> I use the GTK function from GTK > 2.6 so for the actual D-I it will be 
> hard to integrate. But Attilio had build a new one based on gtkdfb 2.9
> that I will try.

I've tried to rebuild an image using the udebs provided by Attilio and
it worked, so if you have problems doing it just ask and I'll be happy
to help.

Ciao,
Davide


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Re: Proposal for integration of the graphical installer

2006-05-15 Thread Davide Viti
Hi Sven,

On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 02:33:42PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> I am not sure if g-i is booting on powerpc right now though, last we tried in
> january, it crashed.

Eddy tried an image dated May 11 and it did boot succesfully; colours are still
messed up (not a surprise), but hopefully it should be fixed once gtk+directfb 
2.10.x is out.

Ciao,
Davide


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Re: Proposal for integration of the graphical installer

2006-05-15 Thread Davide Viti
Hi Frans,

On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 03:21:28PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> I think that should already be fixed by Joey. Any chance of a rerun for 
> i386?

I did one hour ago or so and it booted fine

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Re: Proposal for integration of the graphical installer

2006-05-15 Thread Davide Viti
> Ah, nice ...
> 
> This probably means we will never know what caused the problem though.

we're talking about a 3 years old snapshot; the libraries have evolved alot
in the meanwhile.
We have a similar problem with fonts (Dejavu can't be used as default font) and
I think there's no point trying to fix that on the old libs (I've "wasted" 
already
a week or so).

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Re: powerpc daily sid_d-i CD builds working again

2006-05-15 Thread Davide Viti
Hey Sven,

On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 03:33:28PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:

> I think i remember that we had some special
> casing for radeonfb/powerpc somewhere.

I do remember you and Attilio talking about of sort of database for
handling the various situations.
The best I could come up with is this thread wich I haven't read
too carefully but I'm sure that's where all the discussion begun

http://people.debian.org/~terpstra/thread/20051202.182847.aaa98ea6.en.html#i20051202.182847.aaa98ea6

hope this helps,
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Re: graphics or text as default?

2006-05-15 Thread Davide Viti
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 05:15:41PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Monday 15 May 2006 16:46, Attilio Fiandrotti wrote:
> > What about using GTK libraries from CVS ? i386 experimental udebs i
> > built some times ago proved to work well (better than 2.0.9 regarding
> > fonts) and i can tell you the DFB backend they contain is much more
> > robust than the one contained in 2.0.9 libraries (which was nothing
> > more than an hacky set of patches applied to standard 2.0.9 GTK
> > libraries, far away from being bugless).
> 
> We could look at that, but I will not have time until after my holidays.

I can help too: 2.0.9 libs are really too outdated and we've taken those
to their limits.

Ciao,
Davide


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Re: graphics or text as default?

2006-05-15 Thread Davide Viti
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 07:34:27AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> > That said, another important point is, will we be using a separate
> > gtk-dfb 2.9/2.10 package set, or will we be using the main gtk debian
> > package ? In this second case, are the gtk-gnome folk ready to move to
> > gtk 2.10 for etch ?
> 
> I'd hope we can use the main gtk debian package. I have no idea if the 
> Gnome packagers are ready or not or if they are even considering 
> packaging 2.10 for Etch given the release planning and the upcoming 
> freeze. Especially since AFAICT 2.10 has not yet been released...

It would be very nice if g-i could use udebs "produced" along with the main
gtk package. AFAIK gtk+ 2.10 should be ready sometimes in May 2006 (see [1]):

"2.10 – GTK+ 2.10 is planned to be released around May 2006. Possible
features include printing support and better introspection."

As said before, the best we can do is try and come up with an
unofficial udeb based on some CVS snapshot (maybe working together on
an Alioth repository), and see what happens: if 2.10 will be out in
time, the udeb can be used to give support to gtk debian packagers (in
case they needed any: compilation flags come to my mind); if 2.10
delays too long and we're ready with our udeb, we can decide to use our 2.9.x
package (it wouldn't be too different than using the 2.0.9 as far as
alignement with upstream is concerned).

I don't think Denis or Mike would be disappointed if g-i were still based on 
2.0.9 since it's obvious that we've done the best we could, given the weird
situation of libraries we are stuck with: OTOH we cannot actively contribute
to their work which is now based on the developement of the very latest versions
of the libs, and this would be a pity both for them and for us.

ciao,
Davide

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Re: Proposal for integration of the graphical installer

2006-05-15 Thread Davide Viti
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 08:12:04AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Monday 15 May 2006 15:32, Davide Viti wrote:
> > I did one hour ago or so and it booted fine
> 
> Hmm. I'm guessing that you've tried the mini.iso, and not one of the 
> larger images as they indeed were completely broken. Will hopefully be 
> fixed with the next build.

You're right: sorry.

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[g-i] Dejavu as default font

2006-05-17 Thread Davide Viti
I just applied the necessary changes needed to make ttf-dejavu the
default font for the graphical installer.
The tests I run recently got debconf to just crash if dejavu was used as
default font, and I don't actually know what fixed it.

The change will take effect as soon as a new version of rootskel-gtk will be 
uploaded and available in the archives.

regards,
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Re: improve choose language option

2006-05-18 Thread Davide Viti

>On Wednesday 17 May 2006 21:33, Xavier Oswald wrote:
>> I see that if I choose chinese or another asian language, I cannot
>> read/understand the language list, if I validate the language.

I guess you're running the iso built by Attilio a while back and based
on 2.9 libraries right?
Some languages in that images don't show the English "/ Choose Language" 
translation. It should be fixed for all languages if you use a more recent 
iso.

Ciao,
Davide





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Bug#367783: Remove the brackets as possible workaround

2006-05-18 Thread Davide Viti
Just found out that it does not segfault when removing the square brakets

~ # echo test | tr '[a-z]' '[A-Z]'
Segmentation fault
~ # tr 'a-z' 'A-Z'

~ # echo test | tr 'a-z' 'A-Z'
TEST


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Re: [G-I] Font for Khmer

2006-05-21 Thread Davide Viti
On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 07:19:11AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> Could you please get the font included for Kmer switched from KhmerOS to 
> KhmerOSsys.

done:
- removed tarball from Alioth [1] and updated README file
- added "ttf-khmeros-udeb" to build/pkg-lists/gtk-common
- updated the wiki [2]

> He recommends KhmerOSsys as it takes less height than the default font. 
> The sys variant is also used in OpenOffice and such.

nice to know that the udeb is already containing that font :)

Ciao,
Davide

[1] http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/gtk-frontend/
[2] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/GUIFonts


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[G-I] Fonts: missing udebs

2006-05-22 Thread Davide Viti
Here, mainly as a reminder, is a list of the missing fonts udebs
needed for the graphical installer; ATM the files are available on
Alioth as unofficial tarballs (see [1]):


- ttf-farsiweb_0.4-2.tgz
(see #355447, #355449)

- ttf-tamil-fonts_0.4.7.tgz
(see #358226)

- ttf-thai-tlwg_0.4.4-3.tgz
I can't remember where I got it from, but I remember
the site contained unofficial udebs; the wiki ([2])
says that an udeb has been uploaded on 19th April but
"apt-cache search" shows no results.

regards,
Davide

[1] http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/gtk-frontend/
[2] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/GUIFonts


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Re: Debian graphical installer: It's here-->test it

2006-05-22 Thread Davide Viti
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 10:30:01AM +0300, Eddy Petrişor wrote:
> On a related topic, the powerpc g-i daily build maintained by Colin
> had an cyrillic display issue. No cyrillic characters were displayed.
> Missing ttf-dejavu font?

ttf-dejavu is not missing; can you please provide more infos so that I can
see if anything's wrong?
I tried some steps with russian/ukrainian and, even if I could not understand
a single words, glyphs were shown.

regards,
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Re: PPC G-I [was: Re: Debian graphical installer: It's here-->test it]

2006-05-23 Thread Davide Viti
>In my tests the ppc build made on the 18th did not show any cyrillic glyphs.
>
>I think this is a ppc G-I build issue. I was hoping Colin will see the
>email and reply.

can you reproduce it with the latest build?
Do you have screenshots, or take any if it reproduces?
if it happens, can you see if switching to VT2 and running something like
"find /usr/share/fonts" does list ttf-dejavu.ttf among the font files?

Thanx,
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Re: [G-I] Fonts: missing udebs

2006-05-23 Thread Davide Viti
>On 5/22/06, Davide Viti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> - ttf-thai-tlwg_0.4.4-3.tgz
>> I can't remember where I got it from, but I remember
>> the site contained unofficial udebs; the wiki ([2])
>> says that an udeb has been uploaded on 19th April but
>> "apt-cache search" shows no results.
>
>On "2006-04-19 17:58:53" Christian made this addition in the wiki.
>Christian, could you clarify?

I fonud the answer looking through the ML (see [1]), and the
packages are in [2].

ciao,
Davide

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/04/msg00589.html
[2] http://linux.thai.net/~thep/debian/source/thaifonts-scalable/





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Bug#368602: making screenscreenshots

2006-05-24 Thread Davide Viti
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 02:30:59PM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote:
> Idea:
> 
> Include a screenshot program a la 
>  gnome-panel-screenshot (1) - capture screen or window and save the image to 
> a file.
> 
> where the (default) file location in the log file directory
> that is available to the d-i http log file server

the feature you're referring to it's been already implemented a while ago: 
see [1] and #341880

regards,
Davide

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Re: [directfb-dev] [g-i] Graphical installer and PPC systems

2006-05-24 Thread Davide Viti
Hi all!

On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 01:48:59PM +0200, Denis Oliver Kropp wrote:
> > Ok, one more reason to update g-i libraries.
> > Dennis, would you suggest to switch directly from 0.9.22 to 0.9.25.1, 
> > skipping 0.9.24 ? would that give better stability to the g-i ?
> 
> Yes, there have been lots of driver updates.

I think it's going to be a two steps "operation":

- we'll first use what's already available in the Debian archives, which means
  everything _except_ cairo-dfb and gtk+-directfb_2.8.17 (we need debs and udebs
  from the package maintainers)

- once gtk+ 2.10 will be officially out upstream, the debian-gnome team will 
ship
  the *-directfb packages along with the standard ones and we'll finally be 
aligned.

It's been a very long process (which is not finished yet) but I think once 
we'll get
there directfb and all the libraries based on it will receive alot of of 
attention / bug
reports and fixes. Everything was worth the effort indeed!

Denis, be prepered to be stressed out by me asking for help with dfbterm :)

Ciao,
Davide


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Re: [g-i] How to change the default font size in G-I?

2006-05-25 Thread Davide Viti
Hi Christian,


>I'd like to rebuild images with a modified font size. However, I have
>found yet where this is specified.
>

you have to modify rootskel-gtk:

change the line "gtk-font-name=DejaVu 11" inside "etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc"
(for example change "11" into "14")

rebuild the udeb, throw it inside localeudebs and rebuild

>May one of the g-i gurus help me? (hint: Frans is not here so that
>must be someone else)

:)

Ciao,
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Re: PPC G-I [was: Re: Debian graphical installer: It's here-->test it]

2006-05-25 Thread Davide Viti
> >can you reproduce it with the latest build?
> >Do you have screenshots, or take any if it reproduces?
> 
> http://eddyp.homelinux.net:8080/eddy/g-i/cyrillic-missing/
> (please be kind, is a slow machine)

just as a reminder:
g-i stuff moved to trunk whereas ppc still uses Frans' people branch
and as a consequence some changes done in trunk have to be merged
into the people branch.
One of such changes (ATM I can't think of any others) is 

 installer/build/pkg-lists/gtk-common

where I added a list of font udebs that previously where fetched
from Alioth ([1]) as tarballs. the tarballs have been removed from Alioth
and that's why glyphs are missing.

regards,
Davide


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Re: PPC G-I [was: Re: Debian graphical installer: It's here-->test it]

2006-05-26 Thread Davide Viti
>AFACT, if I or anybody else does this merge, Colin's setup should
>autofix, right? (Unless the autobuilder does not clean the tarballs'
>folder, which it seems it does not).

The tarballs are fetched from Alioth and not locally.
Once Colin will run "svn up" on the build machine the
problem will go away.

D.

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Bug#368881: linuxgui install

2006-05-28 Thread Davide Viti
Hi Holger,
On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 07:06:22PM +0200, Holger Wansing wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Thu, 25 May 2006 18:58:13 +0200 Patrick Cornelißen wrote:
> > Package: installation-reports
> 
> > Comments/Problems:
> > 
> > There are some missing translations in the installer for the german 
> > language.
> > 
> > I was not able to enter my name correctly because the ß (ß in 
> > html) is not acessible via keyboard.
> 
> Additional info:
> 
> ß does not work in the traditional installer, too ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
> (with correct layout chosen; read further)
> 
> AND
> 
> ö + ä + ü doesn't work in both installers
> (with correct layout chosen; read further)
> 
> AND
> 
> in g-i the wrong keyboard layout is chosen for de: z and y are
> swapped (on a german keyboard the y is left between x and z is left
> between u; also known as qwertz layout). So there seems to be an
> english keyboard selected. In the traditional d-i this works fine.
> 

We have only a bugreport (#339352) relate do g-i and keyboard.  The
current libraries are something like three years old and we're about
to switch to the new ones: don't think it would make sense to debug
the problem now. We'll try to see if it reproduces once the new libs
will be available.

Thanx alot

Davide


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Re: [G-I] ppc dailies are still missing cyrillic fonts

2006-06-02 Thread Davide Viti
On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 12:14:07AM +0300, Eddy Petrişor wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> The problem of missing fonts in PPC G-I dalies is still present.

> Proof here:
> http://eddyp.homelinux.net:8080/eddy/g-i/cyrillic-missing/20060530/

http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/05/msg00958.html
(skip the first 2 questions)

D.


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Bug#368881: linuxgui install

2006-06-02 Thread Davide Viti
Hi Holger,

On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 12:09:11AM +0200, Holger Wansing wrote:
> Yes, I tried the new gtkdfb 2.9 g-i from [1] and the mentioned
> issues are fixed! Well done.

thanx alot for trying this on the 2.9 iso!
Another bug that's going to be fixed as soon as the libs get packaged.

I'm really looking foreward to starting working on an installer
based on the (official) new libs: the old ones used currently do not make
justice to this pioneering project.

Ciao,
Davide


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Bug#369664: Graphical DebianInstaller does not save passwords

2006-06-02 Thread Davide Viti
On Thu, Jun 01, 2006 at 12:11:25AM +0700, Christian Perrier wrote:
> There are also problemns with capitalized letters (already reported).

#339352 and #368881 in case you needed to have more infos.

Ciao,
Davide


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Re: [G-I] ppc dailies are still missing cyrillic fonts

2006-06-03 Thread Davide Viti
On Sat, Jun 03, 2006 at 02:30:38PM +0300, Eddy Petrişor wrote:
> No,

Are you sure you're testing the latest initrd file and not the old one not 
containing
dejavu?
I know it's an obvious question, but the build log [1] looks ok:


---
<...>
Building dependency tree...
dh_testroot
get-packages udeb anna ... ttf-cjk-compact-udeb ttf-dejavu-udeb 
ttf-dzongkha-udeb ttf-freefont-udeb ttf-khmeros-udeb ... zlib1g-udeb 
make[3]: `sources.list.udeb' is up to date.
Ign copy: localudebs/ Release.gpg

<...>
Fetched 21B in 0s (47B/s)
Reading package lists...
Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Need to download: anna ... ttf-cjk-compact-udeb ttf-dejavu-udeb 
ttf-dzongkha-udeb ttf-freefont-udeb ... zlib1g-udeb
Reading package lists...
<...>

The following NEW packages will be installed:
  anna archdetect bogl-bterm-udeb brltty-udeb busybox-udeb cdebconf-gtk-udeb
  <...>
  ttf-cjk-compact-udeb ttf-dejavu-udeb ttf-dzongkha-udeb ttf-freefont-udeb
<...>

Need to get 5439kB/12.3MB of archives.
After unpacking 1929MB disk space will be freed.
Get:1 http://ftp.de.debian.org unstable/main/debian-installer libglib2.0-udeb 
2.10.3-1 [586kB]
<...>
Get:15 http://ftp.de.debian.org unstable/main/debian-installer 
ttf-cjk-compact-udeb 1.3 [847kB]
Get:16 http://ftp.de.debian.org unstable/main/debian-installer ttf-dejavu-udeb 
2.4.1-1 [529kB]
Get:17 http://ftp.de.debian.org unstable/main/debian-installer 
ttf-dzongkha-udeb 0.2-2 [599kB]
<...>
Selecting previously deselected package ttf-dejavu-udeb.
(Reading database ... 994 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking ttf-dejavu-udeb (from udebs/ttf-dejavu-udeb.udeb) ...
---

regards,
Davide

[1] 
http://people.debian.org/~cjwatson/d-i/powerpc/daily/build_powerpc_gtk-miniiso.log


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Bug#370150: Missing glyphs

2006-06-03 Thread Davide Viti
Package: ttf-cjk-compact-udeb
Version: 1.3
Tags: d-i

Checking the needed glyphs on the spellchecker page [1], looks like 
the following glyphs are missing from ja.ttf files:
















and the following are missing from zh.ttf (and needed by zh_TW)




regards,
Davide

[1] http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/spellcheck/level1/index.html


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Re: [G-I] ppc dailies are still missing cyrillic fonts

2006-06-04 Thread Davide Viti
On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 12:47:13PM +0300, Eddy Petrişor wrote:
> On 6/3/06, Davide Viti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Sat, Jun 03, 2006 at 02:30:38PM +0300, Eddy Petrişor wrote:
> >> No,
> >
> >Are you sure you're testing the latest initrd file and not the old one not 
> >containing
> >dejavu?
> >I know it's an obvious question, but the build log [1] looks ok:
> 
> Ah, crap, my cron job which does the downloading of the image got
> stumbled when trying to remove the old mini.iso and wget downloaded it
> as mini.iso.1.
> 
> The non erasable file was copied from a remote sshfs on my router
> while mounted by root and it inherited the -w attribute for others, so
> the cron job ran as my user could not delete the old file.
> 
> Sorry guys for the false alarm.

does this mean that the problem got fixed (as expected) with Colin's latest 
changes?

ciao,
Davide


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Bug#369664: Graphical DebianInstaller does not save passwords

2006-06-04 Thread Davide Viti
Ciao Attilio,

On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 02:27:25AM +0200, Attilio Fiandrotti wrote:
> Davide Viti wrote:
> >On Thu, Jun 01, 2006 at 12:11:25AM +0700, Christian Perrier wrote:
> >
> >>There are also problemns with capitalized letters (already reported).
> >
> >
> >#339352 and #368881 in case you needed to have more infos.
> >
> >Ciao,
> >Davide
> 
> Bjorn privately reported this bug to have disappeared when using recent 
> GTKDFB libraries.
> Don't know if this bug shall be closed or left open until GTKDFB 
> libraries upgrade is complete.

I'd leave everything open until the new libs hit the archives, so we can use
the bugreports as reminders and as test cases.

ciao,
Davide


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Re: Request for a DFB version of libcairo2

2006-06-07 Thread Davide Viti
Hi Dave,
To build the -directfb-dev package you can use the following options:

"--disable-xlib --disable-ps --disable-pdf --enable-directfb=yes"

As soon as you've something ready to test, I'll use it to try and compile
the gtk+-directfb_2.8.17 packages, which is the last bit of the endless
stack of libs needed for g-i.

In the meanwhile I can test your udeb.

regards,
Davide


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Re: Request for a DFB version of libcairo2

2006-06-07 Thread Davide Viti
Hey Dave,

> In the meanwhile I can test your udeb.

Good news: I've run some tests and looks like the udeb is working fine!!

I grabbed a g-i image [1] created by Attilio and based on recent libs,
unpacked the initrd.gz file contained in the iso into a directory; I then
replaced the libcairo files with the ones included in your udeb and run
the gtk frontend after chrooting in that directory and it worked.

As second test I got the official build environment out of svn, copied the
following udebs in localudebs:

libcairo2-directfb-udeb_1.1.6-1_i386.udeb [3]
libdirectfb-0.9-24-udeb_0.9.24-3_i386.udeb [4]
cdebconf-gtk-udeb_0.100_i386.udeb [5]
libgtk+2.0-directfb0-udeb_2.9-cvs20060328_i386.udeb [6]

which is your udeb + officially available libdirectfb + the other udebs which
need your -dev package.
I then built the iso and tested it: the frontend starts up with no crashes, so
I assume it is working.

ciao,
Davide


[1] https://debian.polito.it/downloads/udebs/mini.iso
[2] 
https://debian.polito.it/downloads/udebs/libcairo2-directfb-udeb_1.0.4-cvs20060416_i386.udeb
[3] 
http://download.dajobe.org/debian/experimental/libcairo2-directfb-udeb_1.1.6-1_i386.udeb
[4] 
http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/directfb/libdirectfb-0.9-24-udeb_0.9.24-3_i386.udeb
[5] https://debian.polito.it/downloads/udebs/cdebconf-gtk-udeb_0.100_i386.udeb
[6] 
https://debian.polito.it/downloads/udebs/libgtk+2.0-directfb0-udeb_2.9-cvs20060328_i386.udeb


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Re: Request for a DFB version of libcairo2

2006-06-07 Thread Davide Viti
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 10:32:26PM +0200, Attilio Fiandrotti wrote:
> >"--disable-xlib --disable-ps --disable-pdf --enable-directfb=yes"
> 
> one strange thing i noticed with GTK 2.9.x only (2.8.17 is not affected) 
> is that it requires cairo to be built with both pdf and ps backends 
> enabled (maybe because of the print support new in GTk 2.9 ?)
> I think GTK 2.10 will do the same, even if some investigations on this 
> would be required.
> For future compatibility with newer GTK releases it's maybe better not 
> disabling ps and pdf backends?

actually the only option really required is  "--enable-directfb=yes" (don't
know if "--disable-xlib" is implicitely set).

ciao,
Davide


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Re: Request for a DFB version of libcairo2

2006-06-07 Thread Davide Viti
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 09:12:59AM -0700, Dave Beckett wrote:
> I took the package description from the Source: libcairo-directfb
> debian/control and there was no such libcairo2-directfb-dev in there.

I think it's because old gtk+ libs did not need cairo which was introduced 
later on;
Can't remember the details but IIRC the directfb backend was introduced 
sometimes around
Jan 2006.

> Is this packaged somewhere else or shall i just guess what it contains?

I'm afraid it's the second option :)
Shouldn't be too hard though: you can take a look at [1]. I guess that the only 
important
bit is the "--enable-directfb --disable-xlib" options.
This -dev package, once installed, will be used for compiling gtk+-directfb 
(u)debs.

regards,
Davide

[1] http://www.directfb.org/wiki/index.php/Projects:GTK_on_DirectFB


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Re: D-I team meeting: 24/6?

2006-06-08 Thread Davide Viti
Hi Christian

On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 06:46:42PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
> So far, only Otavio mentioned a preference, so actually the meeting
> date is more likely to be June 17th.

sorry for the late reply.
I don't have  preference since I can't guarantee my presence on weekends:
I'll do my best to attend whichever date is preferred by most ppl

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Davide


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Re: Request for a DFB version of libcairo2

2006-06-08 Thread Davide Viti
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 01:29:03PM -0700, Dave Beckett wrote:
> yes this change could be made, but this would require a patch to be made to
> gtk+2.0-directfb (udeb)'s configure to use pkgconfig cairo-directfb rather
> than pkgconfig cairo.  Is that correct?

It is correct.
gtk+2.0-directfb (2.8.17) has not been packaged yet, ant it'll be the first 
version using
cairo-directfb (previous version did not need cairo)

Davide


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Re: Request for a DFB version of libcairo2

2006-06-08 Thread Davide Viti
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 12:10:41AM +0300, Eddy Petrişor wrote:
> Hmm, thining again at the problem...
> We are using now the same source for building the -directfb and the
> regular cairo, right?

yes
 
> The compilation of the libs is made from exactly the same code, but is
> just configured differently, right?

yes

> If that is true, then the headers should not be different and the
> information in the pc can point to the two cairo libs which will be in
> /usr/lib/ no problems.

there will be two pc files:

cairo.pc (already created)

cairo-directfb.pc - this can be created inside debian anc copied in the right
place via debian/libcairo2-directfb-dev.install with a line like

debian/cairo-directfb.pc /usr/lib/pkgconfig

the same way it's done in the gtk+2.0-directfb package


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Re: Request for a DFB version of libcairo2 - time for gtk+-directfb

2006-06-13 Thread Davide Viti
Last night I sent the following message which probably did
not get through because of the 90Kb attachement.
Sorry if this is the second time you rereceive this.
The patch is now available in [1].

regards,
Davide

[1] http://www.webalice.it/zinosat/gtk+-directfb_2.8.17.patch.gz


---
Hi Dave and all,

On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 01:03:37PM -0700, Dave Beckett wrote:
> I've made another cairo 1.1.6-1 experimental deb set, this time there's a
> new libcairo2-directfb-dev which can be parallel installed with the
> libcairo2-dev and answers to 'pkgconfig cairo-directfb --libs' etc.
> 
> It's in the same place as the other packages:
>   http://download.dajobe.org/debian/experimental/
> 
> Don't forget as there are new deb packages here, there's at least a month to
> wait for the NEW "queue" to process them before you can use them after I
> upload them to debian.

excellent! 
I think it's time to "pass the ball" to the gnome team since cairo-directfb 
seems to
work fine:

- the udeb has been succesfully used to build an unofficial image of the 
graphical
  installer [1]

- I installed the -dev package on a sid chroot and managed to compile
gtk+-directfb_2.8.17 (configured using "--with-gdktarget=directfb") using
the patch by Attilio plus a few changes needed to reflect the
"cairo-directfb" new namespace and some cleanup.  The updated patch is
attached and is now organized as an unique text file.

I tried to rebuild starting from a clean cvs checkout + patch and it works fine.

What we would need now (names might be wrong) is:

gtk+-directfb_2.8.17.udeb - containing the runtime libraries used by the 
graphical
installer

gtk+-directfb_2.8.17-dev.deb - used to build the graphical frontend on the build
machine (cdebconf-gtk in particular)

please don't hesitate to ask 

Thanx a lot,
Davide

[1] http://www.webalice.it/zinosat/mini_2.8.17.iso


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Bug#373253: [g-i] crash if switch to VT2 on AMD64

2006-06-13 Thread Davide Viti
Package: cdebconf-gtk-udeb
Version: 0.102
Tags: d-i


when switching to VT2 (CTRL-ALT-F2) the frontend crashes;
this is known to happen on AMD64 only.
A similar bug (#339379) was fixed a while ago on i3386;
on AMD64 the crash happens also if the frontend is not busy
when the switch happens.

This was discussed on debian-boot:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/02/msg00246.html

ATM there's no way to use a shell on AMD64 with the graphical
installer (see also #339855).

regards,
Davide


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Re: Request for a DFB version of libcairo2 - time for gtk+-directfb

2006-06-14 Thread Davide Viti
Hi Dave,

On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 09:33:30AM -0700, Dave Beckett wrote:
> Cairo 1.1.8 snapshot was just released so I've made a new set of
> experimental debs for it at:
>   http://download.dajobe.org/debian/experimental/

I performed the very same tests run with the 1.1.6:

- built an image of the graphical installer [1] using 
libcairo2-directfb-udeb_1.1.8-1_i386.udeb
- succesfully rebuilt gtk+ 2.8.17 after installing 
libcairo2-directfb-dev_1.1.8-1_i386.deb
- successfully rebuilt the packages starting from the sources

Everythings's working fine for me: well done!
Can't wait to put my hands on the gtk+-directfb packages :)

Ciao,
Davide

[1] http://www.webalice.it/zinosat/mini_2.8.17_cairo1.1.8.iso


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Re: Are Georgian/Nepali dis play OK in the graphical installer ?

2006-06-14 Thread Davide Viti
Hi all,

On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 04:01:14PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
> Aiet, Paras,
> 
> Since we activated Georgian/Nepali in the Debian Installer, we got no
> feedback about the rendering in the graphical version.

I noticed Georgian was not among the languages supported by the spellchecker and
fixed that too:

http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/spellcheck/level1/index.html

Nepali has 7 errors: can you please fix those ("Suspect variables" and 
"Specific checks" columns)


> Could you try one of the daily build images
> (http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-businesscard.iso
> is appropriate for a i386 platform)and boot it with "installgui".

I created screenshots for all supported languages:

http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/gtk-frontend/screenshots/20060614_dejavu2.6/


> This will use the Georgain fonts from   ttf-bpg-georgian-fonts and
> the ttf-freefont font for Nepali.

ATM we're using freefont: sorry for not updating the Wiki accordingly: just 
done that.
Is freefont ok for displaying Georgian or should we switch to 
ttf-bpg-georgian-fonts?

thanx,
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Re: Are Georgian/Nepali display OK in the graphical installer ?

2006-06-15 Thread Davide Viti
On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 05:48:58PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
> > No, I'm afraid the screen quality of ttf-bpg-georgian-fonts
> > (especially BPG Glaho in that package) is much better. Georgian
> > portion of Freenfont does not conain any seirous hinting and the
> > Georgian looks pretty bad. And, of course, first impression is very
> > important :)
> 
> 
> So, actually, we should really request for a udeb for that
> font. Davide, doyou take care of this (after checking whether we
> didn't *already* request for one...:))
> 

I'm experimenting a bit with it right now.
We might have to strip Georgian glyphs out of freefont to be able
to use ttf-bpg-georgian-fonts thought. bugreport(s) will follow
later on tonight.

Ciao,
Davide


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Re: Are Georgian/Nepali display OK in the graphical installer ?

2006-06-15 Thread Davide Viti
On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 05:22:15PM +0400, Aiet Kolkhi wrote:
> No, I'm afraid the screen quality of ttf-bpg-georgian-fonts
> (especially BPG Glaho in that package) is much better. Georgian
> portion of Freenfont does not conain any seirous hinting and the
> Georgian looks pretty bad. And, of course, first impression is very
> important :)

I just baked an iso image [1] containing ttf-bpg-georgian-fonts (BPG Glaho)
I've also taken a screenshot of some Georgian text displayed using the above
fonts: compare it with the one using freefont [3]. 

Please let us know what you think about it

ciao,
Davide

[1] http://www.webalice.it/zinosat/mini_bpg-georgian.iso
[2] http://www.webalice.it/zinosat/ka.png
[3] 
http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/gtk-frontend/screenshots/20060614_dejavu2.6/ka.png


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Re: [MEETINGS] Cancel or reschedule meeting?

2006-06-16 Thread Davide Viti
Not sure I'll be attending the meeting scheduled for Saturday either
(weekends are always a big "?" for me).
Here's a summary of the ongoing activities related with g-i:

* Fonts
---
ATM some fonts are not yet available as official udebs, but
as tarballs fetched at compile time from [1]; this is not not
acceptable as a long term solution.
In particular here's a list of fonts file and associated bugreport:

- ttf-farsiweb_0.4-2.tgz (#355447)
- ttf-tamil-fonts_0.4.7.tgz  (#358226)
- ttf-thai-tlwg_0.4.4-3.tgz  (#372799)

ttf-bpg-georgian-fonts (#356333) will be added to the above list
as soon as #373836 will be fixed.

In the meanwhile Dejavu 2.6 hit unstable (thanx Christian!!) and it
is now used as default font for g-i (screenshots in [6]).
The Wiki [2] has been updated and reflects most of the changes happened
recently. I personally think that the future looks bright and it's just 
a matter of time before the udebs will hit the archives.

* new core libraries

There's a lot going on with the packaging of the new generation of
graphic libraries used by the g-i; a lot happened after the
Extremadura session in January and I'm confident that in the short
term we'll have a set of new libraries that will fix most of the known
problems.
The only missing pieces are now libcairo2 (>= 1.1.6) compiled with
directfb backend and gtk+-directfb (>=2.8.17)

as for libcairo Dave Beckett (maintainer of the package) produced some
test packages (1.1.6 and 1.1.8 a few days later) which have been tested
and used to produce unofficial iso images (see [3]).
It is still unclear if libcairo2-directfb-dev.deb has to be produced
along with the other (u)debs or not; IMHO it should be produced, in case
somebody wanted to use directfb instead of X, since directfb is in
the archives.

Once libcairo will be ready the gnome team will have all the components needed
to produce the last piece of the huge stack!
Josselin Mouette and Sebastien Bacher have been involved in the discussion, 
and the
final agreement is that the gnome team will produce the (u)debs needed for g-i
based on 2.8.x libraries integrating a patch produced by Attilio [4], later 
on 
revised and adapted by myself [5] in order to get it working with the new 
cairo
packages.
Note that now gtk+2.8.18 has been released, but the very same patch is still 
compatible.

It would be great if cairo and gft+-directfb were available as official 
packages
ASAP (note that the gnome team could already start working on their package by 
using
what Dave has made available)

Everything else is ready for the switch (rootskel-gtk needs a patch I already 
created
in order to work with the new libs)

I'm really looking forward to see all of this happening.

regards,
Davide


[1] http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/gtk-frontend/
[2] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/GUIFonts
[3] http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/06/msg00687.html
[4] http://lists.debian.org/debian-gtk-gnome/2006/05/msg00064.html
[5] http://www.webalice.it/zinosat/gtk+-directfb_2.8.17.patch.gz
[6] http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/gtk-frontend/screenshots/20060614_dejavu2.6/





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Re: [directfb-dev] [g-i]GTK 2.8.18 with directfb support packages [was:Re: [g-i] Graphical installer and PPC systems]

2006-06-20 Thread Davide Viti
On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 05:50:31PM +0300, Eddy Petrişor wrote:
> Err, i thought your i386 tests made that. If I am doing the patching
> against the source package, then you could test it on i386, too. Is
> not like they are hacked udebs like Attilio was doing, so you can't
> use it.

following the wiki or using the build script committed in extremadura you
should be able to build any of the g-i libs and that is what Sven, Attilio
and myself did. Packaging the libraries, requires alot more; I just got
the impression you are not confident with none of those (and I really do not
mean to offend you anyhow by saying that)

> I got no clear response on that matter from gtk/gnome people on the
> debian channel, and also I have faced some issues that made me believe
> that having two cairo.so files in two different places could be
> problematic; indeed I might have been wrong by not carifying that I
> was talking about _my_ effort.

I think it was not appropriate to involve two MLs and Dave to sort out
your doubt: cairo has been successfully used to produce working images
and that is enough to say it is working.

> 
> >> I don't consider it my responasbility to fix those images, as
> >> I have said some time ago,
> >> I just have time for testing.
> >
> >Huh?
> >What do you expect then?
> 
> I said clearly I don't have time for hacking[1], just testing. I am
> not the ppc porter, nor a helper porter and I don't have the knowledge
> to claim any of those positions. Also, somebody else is the powerpc
> porter, AFAIK.
> 
> >You write on d-boot "hey, g-I is fucked on ppc" as you did with Cyrillic
> >fonts,
> >And then you expect within a couple of hours to find a hundred messages
> >on your
> >Mailbox asking for details or providing a fix?
> 
> Err, the problem was observed on the 18th of May, and I was expecting,
> since then somebody to try to investigate and fix this since I clearly
> said I couldn't do it. I have said something about this on the list on
> the 30th of May.
> 

you reported the pb in [1] and the very same day I replied asking for infos
you did not provide until the IRC discussion when you unfairly accused Colin.
I asked you again to provide the infos and within 12 hours Colin merged ppc
stuff from Frans' branch into trunk.
You said the problem was still present [2] (and I had to ask you the very same
questions again [3]), and at the end it was you using the wrong image.
That did piss me off even more and I think such failure reports are all but 
useful.

> Are you sure[2]?

right, my fault (i'm sure some posts you bamed it on that patch though)
 
> >If that's your idea of testing things I'd say is not very effective and
> >as a consequence it
> >Takes a long time before problems get fixed.
> 
> What part of [1] didn't you understand?

it's crystal clear. reporting problems the way you did, especially
when many ppl are on different arches, does not help at all IMO, but
go on that way if you think I'm wrong.


> I hope your mail does not hide other feelings than your concern for
> G-I, because I feel that I am not wanted to be doing G-I work.

that's your own way of reading my message.
I think you did wrong and I told you the reason why I think so without
hiding anything;
feel free to do whatever you want the way you want.

D.

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/05/msg00906.html
[2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/05/msg01290.html
[3] http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/06/msg00048.html


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Re: [directfb-dev] [g-i]GTK 2.8.18 with directfb support packages [was:Re: [g-i] Graphical installer and PPC systems]

2006-06-20 Thread Davide Viti
On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 05:05:39PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> There is still some discussion about those packages and I reported at 
> least one important needed change a few days ago.

yes, we want everything done the right way, so [1] needs to be sorted out

> AFAIK we have not yet asked the Gnome people to do anything and that seems 
> the smart thing to do until we _know_ the cairo packages are actually 
> good.

actually I CCed gnome ppl in [2] but that's definitely not an official call
for help.

Ciao,
Davide

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/06/msg01036.html
[2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/06/msg00687.html


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Re: [directfb-dev] [g-i]GTK 2.8.18 with directfb support packages [was:Re: [g-i] Graphical installer and PPC systems]

2006-06-20 Thread Davide Viti
Hi Rick,
On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 03:07:05PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote:
> Chill out folks!  We're all in this because we think it's *fun*.  If  
> it makes us angry, it's *not* fun.

nothing personal against Eddy here: I expalined what I think was done wrong and
yes it irritated me.
I apologize for spamming MLs when this could be handled with direct
emails.
Such threads tend to degenerate and leave a bad taste indeed.

regards,
Davide


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gtk+-directfb packages: call for help

2006-06-20 Thread Davide Viti
Hi Josselin,
Dave Beckett has worked on producing the libcairo packages (with
and without directfb backend enabled) and an experimental version
is available in [1]. We've tested it and used it for testing a 
patch which adds the directfb backend to gtk+ 2.8.17/18 (you can get
the patch from [2]).
There are still a couple of minor issues which need to be sorted out
before cairo is ready to be uploaded to the archives (see [3]) and what
we still are unsure about is if a libcairo-directfb-dev.deb package
should be produced along with the other (u)debs.

We think there's everything you need to produce gtk+-directfb packages;
it's not officially available yet, but packaging could be done anyway
and would help the d-i team to start working on migrating from old
libraries to new ones.

Your help is thoroughly appreciated,
TIA,

Davide

[1] http://download.dajobe.org/debian/experimental/
[2] http://www.webalice.it/zinosat/gtk+-directfb_2.8.17.patch.gz 
[3] http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/06/msg01036.html
[4] http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/06/msg01036.html


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