Re: [Debconf-team] Food [Re: Registration questions]
On 25.02.2015 07:53, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Santiago Ruano Rincón [2015-02-24 23:41 > +0100]: >> what about not having a default about food? the diet field >> could be mandatory, with an empty option by default >> ... >> a real *-tagged field > > I think this is the best suggestion so far. Form data with defaults > are less useful than data from forms that force people to stop and > think, so this should be a net gain. No. Having no default is not acceptable for registration people. It cause us to send many many mails to remember people to set something sensible. We ping them in IRC, we lost communications [timezones], we have bounced mails [so do we need to cancel entire registrations?], etc. [pentabarf had empty fields as default, so this is a real concern] So let's us [registration] to think that the fields are properly filled, and worrying about all other registration stuffs. [/me cannot ignore a wrong form] ciao cate > If this could be agreed upon, then maybe calling the carnivore > option > > "I eat meat/fish when available" > > next to the other choices, and a free-form text field for > "restrictions" will solve the issue? > > > > ___ > Debconf-team mailing list > Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org > http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team > ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Food [Re: Registration questions]
El 25/02/15 a las 09:52, Giacomo Catenazzi escribió: > On 25.02.2015 07:53, martin f krafft wrote: > > also sprach Santiago Ruano Rincón [2015-02-24 23:41 > > +0100]: > >> what about not having a default about food? the diet field > >> could be mandatory, with an empty option by default > >> ... > >> a real *-tagged field > > > > I think this is the best suggestion so far. Form data with defaults > > are less useful than data from forms that force people to stop and > > think, so this should be a net gain. > > No. Having no default is not acceptable for registration people. It > cause us to send many many mails to remember people to set something > sensible. We ping them in IRC, we lost communications [timezones], we > have bounced mails [so do we need to cancel entire registrations?], etc. > [pentabarf had empty fields as default, so this is a real concern] > Do you think you'd have that problem if the Diet is *really* mandatory? People wouldn't be allowed to register if they don't choose a non-empty option from the list. I highlight that I'm using "Diet" instead of "Dietary restrictions" or preferences/requirements. And sorry, I don't know nothing about summit. I don't know if this would be feasible now. Santiago ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Food [Re: Registration questions]
Giacomo Catenazzi writes: > On 25.02.2015 07:53, martin f krafft wrote: >> also sprach Santiago Ruano Rincón [2015-02-24 23:41 >> +0100]: >>> what about not having a default about food? the diet field >>> could be mandatory, with an empty option by default >>> ... >>> a real *-tagged field >> >> I think this is the best suggestion so far. Form data with defaults >> are less useful than data from forms that force people to stop and >> think, so this should be a net gain. > > No. Having no default is not acceptable for registration people. It > cause us to send many many mails to remember people to set something > sensible. We ping them in IRC, we lost communications [timezones], we > have bounced mails [so do we need to cancel entire registrations?], etc. > [pentabarf had empty fields as default, so this is a real concern] > > So let's us [registration] to think that the fields are properly filled, > and worrying about all other registration stuffs. [/me cannot ignore a > wrong form] In that case, how about making the default option: I will be happy eat whatever is provided (see catering notes). then if people fail to express themselves and subsequently try to complian they just get pointed at that setting and told that they should have chosen something else. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Food [Re: Registration questions]
also sprach Giacomo Catenazzi [2015-02-25 09:52 +0100]: > No. Having no default is not acceptable for registration people. > It cause us to send many many mails to remember people to set > something sensible. As others have pointed out: unless a choice is made, the registration cannot be completed. I think that alleviates your concern, doesn't it? also sprach Philip Hands [2015-02-25 10:16 +0100]: > In that case, how about making the default option: > > I will be happy eat whatever is provided (see catering notes). > > then if people fail to express themselves and subsequently try to > complian they just get pointed at that setting and told that they should > have chosen something else. Also an interesting proposal, which would make it: At DebConf15, we will be serving a variety of foods, sourced mostly from regional partners, and featuring local as well as non-local dishes. The baseline will be vegetarian and meat/fish shall be served as a side dish. Special requirements will be catered to without exception, if at all possible. Food preferences: * I will be happy to eat whatever is provided [default] * I am lacto-ovo vegetarian, don't provide meat/fish for me * I am strict vegetarian (vegan), don't provide any animal products for me * Other (please use field below to let us know) Additional notes and restrictions — please be as concrete as possible and avoid from abusing this field. If any questions arise, please contact the organisers: _ -- .''`. martin f. krafft @martinkrafft : :' : DebConf orga team `. `'` `- DebConf15: Heidelberg, Germany: http://debconf15.debconf.org DebConf16: Cape Town: https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf16 digital_signature_gpg.asc Description: Digital signature (see http://martin-krafft.net/gpg/sig-policy/999bbcc4/current) ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] call for bursaries team volunteers
Hi, On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 10:41 PM, David Bremner wrote: > - people who have previously served on the DebConf bursaries team > - people who have previously received travel sponsorship to attend DebConf > - people contributing to Debian in ways other than packaging > - people who identify themselves as part of some minority within Debian If organizing DebConf is contributing to Debian in other ways than packaging, then I guess I actually match all of these categories. I was on the bursaries team at least for DC10, possibly other times as well (my memory is kinda fuzzy). I requested sponsorship for DC5, DC6, DC7 and DC10, and will not request sponsorship for DC15. I identify myself as a latin american and a woman, both being minorities within Debian. -- Besos, Marga ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Food [Re: Registration questions]
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 4:59 AM, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Giacomo Catenazzi [2015-02-25 09:52 +0100]: >> No. Having no default is not acceptable for registration people. >> It cause us to send many many mails to remember people to set >> something sensible. > > As others have pointed out: unless a choice is made, the > registration cannot be completed. I think that alleviates your > concern, doesn't it? > > > also sprach Philip Hands [2015-02-25 10:16 +0100]: >> In that case, how about making the default option: >> >> I will be happy eat whatever is provided (see catering notes). >> >> then if people fail to express themselves and subsequently try to >> complian they just get pointed at that setting and told that they should >> have chosen something else. > > Also an interesting proposal, which would make it: > > At DebConf15, we will be serving a variety of foods, sourced > mostly from regional partners, and featuring local as well as > non-local dishes. The baseline will be vegetarian and meat/fish > shall be served as a side dish. Special requirements will be > catered to without exception, if at all possible. > > Food preferences: > * I will be happy to eat whatever is provided [default] > * I am lacto-ovo vegetarian, don't provide meat/fish for me > * I am strict vegetarian (vegan), don't provide any animal products for me > * Other (please use field below to let us know) > > Additional notes and restrictions -- please be as concrete as > possible and avoid from abusing this field. If any questions > arise, please contact the organisers: Going to be speaking from the point of view of an "omnivore", or "someone who would fill out none as dietary preference". Excluding individual outliers, the amount of meat in a person's diet is heavily influenced by the culture in which they were raised, which is in turn influenced by local climate, regional wealth, and individual family wealth. Looking at global dietary data, annual per capita meat consumption varies from 4.8kg in the poorest West African nations to 145.7kg in Denmark. US is 124.8kg, and DE is 82.1kg. My personal meat consumption level probably falls fairly close to that of the US average. If we are going to treat this as an end user experience operation, which I think that discussing this in the frame of the questions being asked to attendees seems to indicate we are, I would argue that the "principal of least astonishment" should prevail our plan. What does this mean in practice? As an omnivore, I'd expect an amount meat in my daily diet to either match what I am culturally used to, or barring that, match what is cultural norm for the local region I am visiting. Since Debian is a culturally diverse organization, it would be impossible to cater this to individual omnivores, so I would argue, that we should aim for local norms. IE: 82.1kg/year /365 days in a year = 0.225kg/day (~0.496 lb/day.) With this target in mind, I feel that hug's plan makes the most amount of sense. I'd keep our historical options as he proposed, but would modify his plan slightly to be "Prepare extra vegetarian/vegan dishes, and tell EVERYONE that if they have strong dietary preferences one way or another, that they should eat early." (This advice to come early would include vegetarians, vegans and those who prefer to have meat with most meals, like myself and my son.) I'd also perhaps argue that the kitchen should keep some frozen hamburgers/hotdogs and veggie burgers/hotdogs (or local equivalents) on hand for late comers who have strong dietary preferences, but didn't follow the guidance. Cheers, Brian P.S. - I am little frustrated that it seems from the overall trend in the conversation, that the choices of those that choose to include meat in their diet, seem to be having their choices being classified as "optional", vs. those that choose not to eat meat, having their choices being classified as a "need". (food allergies aside). ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Food [Re: Registration questions]
also sprach Brian Gupta [2015-02-25 15:53 +0100]: > Since Debian is a culturally diverse organization, it would be > impossible to cater this to individual omnivores, so I would > argue, that we should aim for local norms. Yes, that is what we'll be doing: the youth hostel will be serving regionally-sourced food according to local norms. > I'd also perhaps argue that the kitchen should keep some frozen > hamburgers/hotdogs and veggie burgers/hotdogs (or local > equivalents) on hand for late comers who have strong dietary > preferences, but didn't follow the guidance. The bistro will be serving snacks until late at night, including omnivore and vegetarian/vegan options. -- .''`. martin f. krafft @martinkrafft : :' : DebConf orga team `. `'` `- DebConf15: Heidelberg, Germany: http://debconf15.debconf.org DebConf16: Cape Town: https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf16 digital_signature_gpg.asc Description: Digital signature (see http://martin-krafft.net/gpg/sig-policy/999bbcc4/current) ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Citizen four screening
Maximiliano Curia dijo [Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 08:56:25PM +0100]: > > If there is no stark opposition, then I'd like to get the ball > > rolling here… I think the documentary is highly relevant to what we > > do and so it seems like a perfect addition to our programme. > > I think this would be a nice adhoc activity, probably after dinner. On the > other hand if the intention is to project it during the normal DebConf > schedule I think that it should be proposed as a "regular" (although with a > weird length) session to the content team. I also suggest it to be held as an ad-hoc, off-the-schedule, after-formal-activities thing — More or less as the screening of "Sita sings the blues" was done in New York. Of course it is of interest to Debian, but we don't want this screening to compete with any talks. Besides, it's not as if the talk presenter must not be tired, or the session recorded by the video team. ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Citizen four screening
Hi, On Feb 25, 2015 11:01 AM, "Gunnar Wolf" wrote: > I also suggest it to be held as an ad-hoc, off-the-schedule, > after-formal-activities thing — More or less as the screening of "Sita > sings the blues" was done in New York. It was on the schedule: http://penta.debconf.org/dc10_schedule/events/545.en.html > Of course it is of interest to > Debian, but we don't want this screening to compete with any > talks. Besides, it's not as if the talk presenter must not be tired, > or the session recorded by the video team. I don't think Sita had videoteam coverage or competed directly with other talks. -Jeremy ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Citizen four screening
Jeremy Baron dijo [Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 04:16:30PM +]: > On Feb 25, 2015 11:01 AM, "Gunnar Wolf" wrote: > > I also suggest it to be held as an ad-hoc, off-the-schedule, > > after-formal-activities thing — More or less as the screening of "Sita > > sings the blues" was done in New York. > > It was on the schedule: > http://penta.debconf.org/dc10_schedule/events/545.en.html Right — On the schedule, as this screening would be, but starting at 19:45 (after dinner and not in competition with any other talks): http://penta.debconf.org/dc10_schedule/day_2010-08-03.en.html I meant, and I missed an important word, off-the-TALKS- signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Citizen four screening
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 10:36:49AM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Jeremy Baron dijo [Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 04:16:30PM +]: > > On Feb 25, 2015 11:01 AM, "Gunnar Wolf" wrote: > > > I also suggest it to be held as an ad-hoc, off-the-schedule, > > > after-formal-activities thing — More or less as the screening of "Sita > > > sings the blues" was done in New York. > > > > It was on the schedule: > > http://penta.debconf.org/dc10_schedule/events/545.en.html > > Right — On the schedule, as this screening would be, but starting at > 19:45 (after dinner and not in competition with any other talks): > > http://penta.debconf.org/dc10_schedule/day_2010-08-03.en.html > > I meant, and I missed an important word, off-the-TALKS- I think we are all agreeing this is how it should be done. Michael ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Voluntary conference contributions for pro/corp attendees
also sprach martin f krafft [2015-02-23 15:58 +0100]: > - to make it easier for people operating out of a business > context, a checkbox should be added with text like "Instead of > a donation receipt, I need a proper invoice. I am aware that > this invoice will then include 19% VAT as per German law."¹) It turns out that this will not be possible. Curiously, the reason is that we cannot write an invoice without there being a clearly defined, contractually owed service. So it'll be donations, but we already have ideas how to make it easier for attendees to claim those against taxes or as an expense. For the future, we could consider a "corporate registration package" that we could sell for an invoice, including services as e.g. - listing of names, affiliation and contact details in a booklet made available to all attendees; - participation in a networking event; - room category upgrades; - your idea here. I'll push an update to registration.xhtml and if we introduce long text into the registration form, I'll happily contribute an explanation of what our attendees can expect. -- .''`. martin f. krafft @martinkrafft : :' : DebConf orga team `. `'` `- DebConf15: Heidelberg, Germany: http://debconf15.debconf.org DebConf16: Cape Town: https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf16 digital_signature_gpg.asc Description: Digital signature (see http://martin-krafft.net/gpg/sig-policy/999bbcc4/current) ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Citizen four screening
El 25/02/15 a las 17:54, Michael Banck escribió: > On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 10:36:49AM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > Jeremy Baron dijo [Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 04:16:30PM +]: > > > On Feb 25, 2015 11:01 AM, "Gunnar Wolf" wrote: > > > > I also suggest it to be held as an ad-hoc, off-the-schedule, > > > > after-formal-activities thing — More or less as the screening of "Sita > > > > sings the blues" was done in New York. > > > > > > It was on the schedule: > > > http://penta.debconf.org/dc10_schedule/events/545.en.html > > > > Right — On the schedule, as this screening would be, but starting at > > 19:45 (after dinner and not in competition with any other talks): > > > > http://penta.debconf.org/dc10_schedule/day_2010-08-03.en.html > > > > I meant, and I missed an important word, off-the-TALKS- > > I think we are all agreeing this is how it should be done. > Thinking about the schedule… Do you think it would fit in the Open Weekend? Should we consider to screen it on Saturday night, or later during the conference? Cheers, Santiago ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Citizen four screening
also sprach Santiago Ruano Rincón [2015-02-25 22:04 +0100]: > Do you think it would fit in the Open Weekend? Should we consider > to screen it on Saturday night, or later during the conference? Hard call. If it's just a screening, then maybe it's a bit too much for the Open Weekend and we might want to have an evening of socialising instead, to allow old friends to catch up and newcomers to the conference to mingle. However, if we manage to have a panel/Q&A discussion or otherwise a value-add programme, then it'd be a great advertising for our conference and a cool offering to our visitors. If it's to be done at a later point, please consider https://titanpad.com/Tj8XgjYVYL, which is a sketch I prepared a while ago to plan the evenings. -- .''`. martin f. krafft @martinkrafft : :' : DebConf orga team `. `'` `- DebConf15: Heidelberg, Germany: http://debconf15.debconf.org DebConf16: Cape Town: https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf16 digital_signature_gpg.asc Description: Digital signature (see http://martin-krafft.net/gpg/sig-policy/999bbcc4/current) ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Voluntary conference contributions for pro/corp attendees
Can we just owe them a glass of water? Richard Sent by mobile; excuse my brevity. ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Voluntary conference contributions for pro/corp attendees
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 9:58 AM, martin f krafft wrote: > Hello, > > DebConf attendance is free of charge for everyone, but we have > suggested (and are planning to suggest) to our professional and > corporate attendees to contribute certain amounts towards covering > the conference costs. These are always entirely voluntary > contributions and nothing keeps a corporate attendee from not paying > any contribution. See last paragraph if you disagree with this. > > It occurred to some of us that attendees might actually prefer to > receive proper invoices, as these are more natural in the context of > business tax declarations and expense reports. You'll still receive > donation receipts for the contributions, but those may not be as > suitable to your needs. > > Therefore, I am proposing to make two changes to the registration > form, and have attached a patch proposal against registration.xhtml: > > - to underline the voluntary nature of the contributions, > a free-form field should be added so that people can choose to > contribute any other amount instead of just 200/500. The 200 and > 500 are then simply the amounts we suggest to people who > identify themselves as pro/corp. > > - to make it easier for people operating out of a business > context, a checkbox should be added with text like "Instead of > a donation receipt, I need a proper invoice. I am aware that > this invoice will then include 19% VAT as per German law."¹) > > In the long run, we might want to consider making the conf > registration mandatory for e.g. corporate representatives (who are > probably the only ones that deal with expense reports and > VAT-inclusive invoices), but it's too late for DC15. > > ¹) this is the worst-case scenario and it's not unlikely that we > will find a way to provide a way to get tax exemption here. > Could we just say these fees are mandatory tickets, and treat the people we don't charge as need-based special exceptions that we sell discounted tickets to? When I say discounted, I mean discounted down to zero. Thanks, Brian ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Voluntary conference contributions for pro/corp attendees
On 26 February 2015 at 04:00, martin f krafft wrote: > For the future, we could consider a "corporate registration package" > that we could sell for an invoice, including services as e.g. > (Why is that not possible now?) > - listing of names, affiliation and contact details in a booklet > made available to all attendees; > It's 2015, if you're going to list them do it online not in a booklet. Cheaper, easier, more accessible to attendees, and potentially available permanently. I'd say a list something like: Professional Attendees -- Hewlett Packard --- Bdale Garbee Martin Michlmayr Keith Packard ... "HP is a global company that does blahblah. We're hiring! hp.com/jobs" IBM --- ... might have actual value in two respects: it lets companies recruit, and lets companies demonstrate that they're a better employer than others because they'll pay for their employees to go to cool conferences. (It seems a bit like both a carrot and stick at once to me...) I would expect that's sufficient "service" to justify invoicing, but I don't know german tax law... (Hmm, HP is not a sponsor yet? perhaps I should've used Google as my first example) (I'd list sponsoring organisations first, then order by number of attendees, I guess) - participation in a networking event; > Not convinced this is valuable per se... Recruiting events seem to be where it's at, and having people who don't have someone to pay for them there is more interesting. - room category upgrades; > Seems like they could just book a room on their own if they can afford to pay for things. The other approach might be providing a nicer memento to "paying" attendees. Perhaps everyone gets a debconf t-shirt with sponsors logos, but professional attendees also get a nice collared shirt/blouse with some subtle branding as well? Obviously the cost per shirt would want to be much less than the professional rego fee... Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Voluntary conference contributions for pro/corp attendees
also sprach Brian Gupta [2015-02-26 01:08 +0100]: > Could we just say these fees are mandatory tickets, and treat the > people we don't charge as need-based special exceptions that we > sell discounted tickets to? When I say discounted, I mean > discounted down to zero. Not convinced. For need-based special exceptions, we need to be able to document those. I think the bursaries team's work is ample evidence of that for our sponsorship stuff, but this will be hard to collect for corporates who don't choose to pay. Apart, how to put that in the rego form? "mandatory, but you can check this box if you don't want to pay?" I'd say that this wouldn't fly. also sprach Anthony Towns [2015-02-26 06:13 +0100]: > On 26 February 2015 at 04:00, martin f krafft wrote: > > For the future, we could consider a "corporate registration package" > > that we could sell for an invoice, including services as e.g. > (Why is that not possible now?) Well, mainly because we've not done it before and I am not sure we can work out all the details in time for registration to open, which really should not get held up any longer. > > - listing of names, affiliation and contact details in a booklet > > made available to all attendees; > > It's 2015, if you're going to list them do it online not in a booklet. > Cheaper, easier, more accessible to attendees, and potentially available > permanently. Honestly, even in 2015, there are still people who think that having something in hand is worth more. > I'd say a list something like: > Professional Attendees > -- > Hewlett Packard > --- > "HP is a global company that does blahblah. We're hiring! hp.com/jobs" We can probably do this for our sponsors, but I would not want to offer this possibility of advertising a company to non-sponsors. > might have actual value in two respects: it lets companies recruit, and > lets companies demonstrate that they're a better employer than others > because they'll pay for their employees to go to cool conferences. (It > seems a bit like both a carrot and stick at once to me...) I like the idea. > I would expect that's sufficient "service" to justify > invoicing, but I don't know german tax law... Neither do I. The problem is always that in the end, you might have a tax authority person reach a different conclusion and have the final word. I don't think this is any different outside of Germany when you walk the edge like we'd do in this case. And I would also be surprised if you can invoice for non-services outside Germany. > The other approach might be providing a nicer memento to "paying" > attendees. Perhaps everyone gets a debconf t-shirt with sponsors > logos, but professional attendees also get a nice collared > shirt/blouse with some subtle branding as well? Obviously the cost > per shirt would want to be much less than the professional rego > fee... Also a good idea. So, the way I see it is that we should polish this up for next year, maybe talk to some corporates at DC15 and get their input too. But for DC15, I don't see myself driving this change in time for the registration mail, which should hopefully come any day now. So we'll just do as we did in the past, which IMHO is acceptable. If someone else can take this on, then that's another story. -- .''`. martin f. krafft @martinkrafft : :' : DebConf orga team `. `'` `- DebConf15: Heidelberg, Germany: http://debconf15.debconf.org DebConf16: Cape Town: https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf16 digital_signature_gpg.asc Description: Digital signature (see http://martin-krafft.net/gpg/sig-policy/999bbcc4/current) ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Voluntary conference contributions for pro/corp attendees
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 7:09 AM, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Anthony Towns [2015-02-26 06:13 +0100]: >> On 26 February 2015 at 04:00, martin f krafft wrote: >> > For the future, we could consider a "corporate registration package" >> > that we could sell for an invoice, including services as e.g. >> (Why is that not possible now?) > > Well, mainly because we've not done it before and I am not sure we > can work out all the details in time for registration to open, which > really should not get held up any longer. As far as I know, we are mainly talking about fulfilling legal tax/sponsorship/donation requirements in this regard so the value we provide does not need to be substantial, correct? >> The other approach might be providing a nicer memento to "paying" >> attendees. Perhaps everyone gets a debconf t-shirt with sponsors >> logos, but professional attendees also get a nice collared >> shirt/blouse with some subtle branding as well? Obviously the cost >> per shirt would want to be much less than the professional rego >> fee... > > Also a good idea. While I am sure many people would like to have a nice DebConf shirt (/me among them!), the idea of differently-colourd lanyards was rejected because this would create "more equal than the rest" kind of situations. Richard ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Voluntary conference contributions for pro/corp attendees
also sprach Richard Hartmann [2015-02-26 07:49 +0100]: > > Well, mainly because we've not done it before and I am not sure we > > can work out all the details in time for registration to open, which > > really should not get held up any longer. > > As far as I know, we are mainly talking about fulfilling legal > tax/sponsorship/donation requirements in this regard so the value we > provide does not need to be substantial, correct? It needs to be reasonable, so owing a glass of water is not. Even many soft offerings might be questionable. -- .''`. martin f. krafft @martinkrafft : :' : DebConf orga team `. `'` `- DebConf15: Heidelberg, Germany: http://debconf15.debconf.org DebConf16: Cape Town: https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf16 digital_signature_gpg.asc Description: Digital signature (see http://martin-krafft.net/gpg/sig-policy/999bbcc4/current) ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
