Re: [Debconf-team] Global team meeting, Tuesday March 29, 20:00 UTC
Hi, I'm sorry but due to a work meeting tonight I cannot participate in the IRC meeting tonight. (This has been happened several times recently but should become better managable for me in 2-4 weeks. Tuesday evening just doesnt work well for me atm.) On Dienstag, 29. März 2011, Richard Darst wrote: > There is a global team meeting scheduled for tomorrow. The agenda is > below. The biggest highlights will probably be deciding a > registration scheme and our preferred local logistics plans, > debian&diva, and CFP. IMO releasing a CfP ASAP should have highest priority atm. Other points need to be discussed and decided too, but we need this CfP *now*. (also but not only for coorporate sponsors - we also need to get great content for the conference itself.) So I would propose to move CfP up like this: > = > > * Report backs > * DC10 Final report > * Sponsorship team status > * Local updates > * Accommodation - can we decide on the hotels? > * Food - Bosna or prod on venue more? > * Venue - Anything new? > * CfP > * Registration > * Decide on a registration plan (requires local knowledge) > * pricetag for professional attendees > * statement of agreement how to handle dc11 between diva & debian: > http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/NGOMoney > * Next meeting/Any Other Business Of course there is not really *that much* to be discussed during the meeting, as usual it rather needs people who do it ;-) (Some things like dates need to be discussed though.) cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] howto deal with debian/debconf money at ffis (and spi)
Hi, On Sonntag, 27. März 2011, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > To wrap up on this, I'm fine with having debconf's own earmarks / > accounts, as long as there are the periodic merge windows we have > discussed elsewhere. [...] Yay. Glad we finally all agree on how handle this! :) > I'm under the impression that we have a general agreement on the > separate earmark scheme, provided that it's alive only for a specific > time window. We "just" need to find a way to define the time window ... How about: Time windows starts with the first transaction and by default ends 2 months after DebConf. If the default should be changed, this needs agreement between Debian auditor and DebConf accounting team/person (and should be discussed in mails send to debconf-t...@l.dc.o and cc: to the Debian auditor). ? Alternativly: s/2 months/3 months/ cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Forming a preliminary budget
Hi, While all of this information needs to be known, we are kind of in a tight spot with time right now, as we are all concentrated on finishing up the registration opening process! All the info you need to make this preliminary budget will be delivered to you as soon as we find out our selfs. (it may seem that there's a lot of us in local team that can do this, but in reality it's just Adnan that does most of the stuff, since he is the only one in a position to do so. Some of us are studying abroad and the local people in Banja Luka seem to be unable to act on their own, for whatever reason.) I promise that once we have the registration open, i will personally try and find out as much as i can about all of the questions you have! Velimir On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Richard Darst wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to put stuff into a preliminary budget spreadsheet, to get > an idea of where we stand. Thus, I am going to try to collect > everything we may need to pay for - please help me! > > I know we will get hotel/food estimates soon. > > In the mean time, try to send me everything you know we might spend > money on, and an estimated price. You can send it via IRC, too - > don't have to clog email with all of these small things. > > Some things I can think of are: > > - buses (airport->Banja Luka), dorms->venue (?), day trip (?) > - day trip > - equipment/furniture rentals, etc. > - insurance > - extra security (supposed to be zero) > - cleaning costs > - formal dinner costs > - any proposed other activities, like the concert I heard about. > - banners / advertisements > > ... anything else you can think of ? (i'm asking the video team > separately) > > - Richard > > -- > | Richard Darst - rkd@ - boltzmann: up 612 days, 13:18 > | http://rkd.zgib.net - pgp 0xBD356740 > | "Ye shall know the truth and -- the truth shall make you free" > ___ > Debconf-team mailing list > Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org > http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team > ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Talks team work: forming the team
Richard Darst dijo [Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 06:35:26PM -0400]: > Hi, > > These people are currently listed under the talks team: > (…) > We need some people (doesn't have to be from this list) to lead the > team right now mainly getting a call for papers out, along with > deciding any changes which should be done this year. If someone wants > to do this and it's your first time - that's great, we'll help. Ok, so Richard persuaded me to take the lead of this team. Man, does this man have his way with words! > This team should probably start forming and getting a call for papers > out. Luckily, this is easier due to the past announcement archive: > http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/PastAnnouncements > > Whoever is in charge of the team would then answer any questions from > attendees, call for more volunteers to help with the rating, arrange > talks teams meetings to do rating, notify people, and continue to > answer any questions that come up. I hope the seven people already listed for this task are a big enough team to do the talks rating. I do not anticipate the need of growing it - at least not yet. At some point, closer to the conference, the talk selection will be done and we will then form a talk scheduling team (as usual), which might be of different composition. > We have a global team meeting tomorrow, so whoever would like to head > this up, if you could talk a bit at the meeting, we can send you off. > In the meantime, please reply to this mail. I will be unable to be present during the meeting. However, please discuss proposed dates - Please assume all infrastructural work will be ready (i.e. today's discussion on IRC regarding registration by Penta). I guess the CFP should open effective immediately when registration is opened. We should agree on some timeline for talk submissions (to be approved as official - I don't think I have to go into details right now :) ), a timeline for talks acceptance announcement, for schedule announcement, etc. Greetings, signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Global team meeting, Tuesday March 29, 20:00 UTC
Holger Levsen dijo [Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 02:02:57PM +0100]: > > There is a global team meeting scheduled for tomorrow. The agenda is > > below. The biggest highlights will probably be deciding a > > registration scheme and our preferred local logistics plans, > > debian&diva, and CFP. > > IMO releasing a CfP ASAP should have highest priority atm. Other points need > to be discussed and decided too, but we need this CfP *now*. (also but not > only for coorporate sponsors - we also need to get great content for the > conference itself.) Although I agree we need a CfP ASAP, I think it's self-defeating to have a CfP out before registration is working. People will start scratching their heads... So, I know registration is _almost_ there, but not quite yet. It should be done _soon_. But until then, I'd much rather ask you to hold CfP - After all, we don't have to capture audience. Debian people knows we have a DebConf cooking, and will probably start brushing up their ideas even if we didn't have a CfP at all. ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] penta foo
Heyho, i just created DC11 entry in our production pentabarf, with a set of days for it. No rooms or anything else, no logo. But any pentabarf admin can now easily modify that conference entry (dont press "Delete" :) ). You most probably want to put a logo there, change names of days, add rooms, modify css. I then looked at the first changes I see in git for pentabarf. Few comments: - I disagree with plainly removing fields from the pentabarf rxml files. If you don't want them in one conference, do set an "if" around them and check for conference_id. If you plainly delete them you break the display of prior conferences. Moving them would be fine, but plain delete is bad. (What happens is that, when someone visits a prior debconf entry and hits save, the data for that field would be lost. And we do allow people to see their last year entry. And admins anyways.) - The submission_controller save_person has a hack that enables to block certain changes. Which is what we want after the apply deadline. But right now this needs to be deactivated. Comment it out. You will see what i mean when you check for a if/elsif chain involving lots of numbers right at the beginning of def save_person Its a set of multiple blocked things, you may want to allow them all for now. down until POPE.user.person_id. - Ensure that any new database field, if any, is only in our debconf tables and dont ever add to the "upstream" pentabarf. Also, any change to database, please save them. in skinner there is /srv/penta/www/dc-penta for this with lotsa small .sql files. - I just made gwolf member of "pentabarf" group, which, besides the pentatest he already has, allows host access to skinner.debconf.org and appropriate sudo commands to do the fs-level works on pentabarf (git pull and stuff) And let me paste something I sent to Jimmy last year. Mostly still accurate: - It is located in /org/penta/www. The real app is in rails/ there. dc-penta contains *all* changes ever done to pentabarf. It *might* contain a file or two also that had just been quick notes on what to do when getting something special, but all the modifying things are for sure in there. And this is how it has to stay. Doing any changes? NOT, EVER, without placing the full SQL into a file, give it a meaningful name and place it in there. - In /org/penta/static we have the page visible on https://penta.debconf.org/. Feel free to update it for dc10. Its not much more than an unimportant placeholder, but maybe a little debconf-data svn commit is nice. - The code in /o/p/www is an *anonymous* checkout from git. And should always stay so, changes are not done here, only pull them from git! Of course best tested on cletus first. :) - I renamed the pentabarf group we had until now, to pentatest. It contains all the user with access to cletus. - I added a pentabarf group, this contains all the ones with access to skinner. Naturally pentatest can have about anyone working on pentabarf/DebConf. We do not care (much). Pentabarf will always be strictly limited. I think one person from the running/upcoming conference is enough, as there are *rarely* changes to be done on the system itself. At maximum I think we should have 2 of them, remember there are always the admins too to help out. (Database access for the few that need it is done via hostssl entries without host access!) - As on cletus, the pentabarf group can restart the mongrels cluster, in case there is really a code change it needs to know about. - The webinterface can have more people able to look in, but that should be similarly restricted. Dont give out more rights than absolutely needed (a reviewer doesnt need committee nor admin or somesuch for example), and be sure people know about the personal data stored in there and that they should keep it secret. -- bye, Joerg db.oftc.net? * Maulkin thinks Ganneff is doing evil ldap stuff again It's called the Ganneff fingerprint If somethign has 'db.foo.blah' it's had Ganneff involved pgpT0PBSAeXiJ.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] Time and date for the next Global Team meeting
Hi, Some of the organizers have problems attending the meetings with the current global team meeting schedule, so we have decided to make a new one! Here is the link to the doodle poll: http://doodle.com/dpxxfippk25agw45 Please vote! I will leave the poll open until Sunday, 9th of April, after which we will consider which time/date is best for the most of us and in the future use it for our meetings. Thanks, Velimir ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] penta foo
Joerg Jaspert dijo [Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:33:11PM +0200]: > Heyho, > > i just created DC11 entry in our production pentabarf, with a set of > days for it. No rooms or anything else, no logo. But any pentabarf admin > can now easily modify that conference entry (dont press "Delete" :) ). > You most probably want to put a logo there, change names of days, add > rooms, modify css. Yay \o/ Now, where should I do this same thing in Cletus, straight in the DB? I'd think so, but according to what you wrote, I'd think it involved some files as well. > I then looked at the first changes I see in git for pentabarf. Few > comments: > > - I disagree with plainly removing fields from the pentabarf rxml files. > If you don't want them in one conference, do set an "if" around them > and check for conference_id. If you plainly delete them you break the > display of prior conferences. > Moving them would be fine, but plain delete is bad. (What happens is > that, when someone visits a prior debconf entry and hits save, the > data for that field would be lost. And we do allow people to see their > last year entry. And admins anyways.) Perfect. Updated to a saner way, please comment. > - The submission_controller save_person has a hack that enables to block > certain changes. Which is what we want after the apply deadline. But > right now this needs to be deactivated. Comment it out. You will see > what i mean when you check for a if/elsif chain involving lots of > numbers right at the beginning of def save_person > Its a set of multiple blocked things, you may want to allow them all > for now. down until POPE.user.person_id. Ufff, this is far from beautiful. Well, at least that means I should not aim at writing the most beautiful hacks ever :-} > - I just made gwolf member of "pentabarf" group, which, besides the > pentatest he already has, allows host access to skinner.debconf.org > and appropriate sudo commands to do the fs-level works on pentabarf > (git pull and stuff) Thanks! I'll wait for your OK on this mail before even attempting to do anything in there. As for the other points you mentioned - I'll keep them close to my heart. And to all other people interested in lending a hand: Please do so, now. Specially if you are comfortable writing Ruby-on-something-similar-to-Rails (but even if you are not) ;-) signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] Questions to ask in Banja Luka today
Hi, Adnan is going to BL today. Here are the questions from IRC which I said I'd send. Anyone else can add to it (but do it asap...) - Ricahrd = Questions for Hotel Bosna - can you tell us total number of rooms, and total number of beds, by the time we sign something / pay deposits? - If people book directly with the hotel, will the hotel accept deposits and whatever normally, and not charge us if they don't show, and deal themselves with any reservation changes etc. Bosna food: - How many days in advance do you need to know the number of people? - How will payment work? We don't want to pay for everyone for every meal since they won't all eat them. - Do they care about the exact number of people who eat? - Can they accept payments directly from - The number of people will be variable. We can't predict the number of people per meal. -- | Richard Darst - rkd@ - boltzmann: up 617 days, 3:04 |http://rkd.zgib.net - pgp 0xBD356740 | "Ye shall know the truth and -- the truth shall make you free" ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
