Re: [Debconf-discuss] Last call for keys for keysigning in Cape Town, South Africa
> > As I will be talking on Monday about some ideas / suggestions for > > our GPG WoT network strengthening, Anibal suggested me by private > > mail to have a reading of the SHA256 during my session -- Which I > > will. With all people reading their keys, there won't be much time left for your presentation though. > Gunnar's talk is titled "Learning from our keyring: What do our PGP > keys say about the project?" and is scheduled on Monday 4 July at > 16:10. > ... Ah, shoot, my plane only touches down at 13:45 on the 4th, that might be tough. Michael -- Michael Meskes Michael at Fam-Meskes dot De, Michael at Meskes dot (De|Com|Net|Org) Meskes at (Debian|Postgresql) dot Org Jabber: michael at xmpp dot meskes dot org VfL Borussia! Força Barça! SF 49ers! Use Debian GNU/Linux, PostgreSQL signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Last call for keys for keysigning in Cape Town, South Africa
Hi, Michael Meskes wrote: > Ah, shoot, my plane only touches down at 13:45 on the 4th, that might > be tough. This is a problem with reading the hashes only at a single event. At DebConf15 the hashes were repeated in the morning briefings. That's not conventional; it is possible someone could announce a different hash that way. But any person in the room can challenge it if they attended the opening event and notice it is different. Regards, -- Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Last call for keys for keysigning in Cape Town, South Africa
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 10:18:02AM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: > With all people reading their keys, there won't be much time left for > your presentation though. only the hash of the document containing all the fingerprints will be read aloud (ideally by everyone reading a single number (*) of the hash), not everyones fingerprint. (*) numbers obviously include ABCDEF. -- cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Last call for keys for keysigning in Cape Town, South Africa
> only the hash of the document containing all the fingerprints will be > read aloud (ideally by everyone reading a single number (*) of the > hash), not everyones fingerprint. > > (*) numbers obviously include ABCDEF. Well, the email also had a link explaining the proceedings as everyone reads their own key. Anyway, if it's just the master fingerprint, could that be done more than once? Michael -- Michael Meskes Michael at Fam-Meskes dot De, Michael at Meskes dot (De|Com|Net|Org) Meskes at (Debian|Postgresql) dot Org Jabber: michael at xmpp dot meskes dot org VfL Borussia! Força Barça! SF 49ers! Use Debian GNU/Linux, PostgreSQL signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Last call for keys for keysigning in Cape Town, South Africa
On Wed, 2016-06-15 12:08:01 +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: >> only the hash of the document containing all the fingerprints >> will be read aloud (ideally by everyone reading a single number >> (*) of the hash), not everyones fingerprint. >> >> (*) numbers obviously include ABCDEF. > > Well, the email also had a link explaining the proceedings as > everyone reads their own key. > > Anyway, if it's just the master fingerprint, could that be done > more than once? Yes! We'll kindly ask the organizers to read and project it every morning. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Last call for keys for keysigning in Cape Town, South Africa
hi On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 12:15 PM, Aníbal Monsalve Salazar wrote: > On Wed, 2016-06-15 12:08:01 +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: >>> only the hash of the document containing all the fingerprints >>> will be read aloud (ideally by everyone reading a single number >>> (*) of the hash), not everyones fingerprint. >>> >>> (*) numbers obviously include ABCDEF. >> >> Well, the email also had a link explaining the proceedings as >> everyone reads their own key. >> >> Anyway, if it's just the master fingerprint, could that be done >> more than once? > > Yes! We'll kindly ask the organizers to read and project it every > morning. I've noted this for discussion at the meeting, to assign it as a daily job in a reliable way. thanks. > > ___ > Debconf-discuss mailing list > Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org > http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss > ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Last call for keys for keysigning in Cape Town, South Africa
Steven Chamberlain dijo [Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 10:34:48AM +0100]: > Hi, > > Michael Meskes wrote: > > Ah, shoot, my plane only touches down at 13:45 on the 4th, that might > > be tough. > > This is a problem with reading the hashes only at a single event. > > At DebConf15 the hashes were repeated in the morning briefings. That's > not conventional; it is possible someone could announce a different > hash that way. But any person in the room can challenge it if they > attended the opening event and notice it is different. Yes, we should have the SHA repeated throughout, either organized centrally or inviting people just to read it during their talks. Maybe by doing it often enough we will get to memorize it! (And, yes, I will only read the SHA, *not* the keys. That'd be terribly boring, error-prone and inefficient) signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] "Hepatitis A" vaccination recommendation was Re: Water supply at the venue
at bottom :- On 14/06/2016, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > Just to add: A "Hepatitis A" vaccination is recommended for South > African cities (at least in Germany it's recommended). It has a > tendency to spread with water. > > -- > Debian Developer - deb.li/jak | jak-linux.org - free software dev > > When replying, only quote what is necessary, and write each reply > directly below the part(s) it pertains to (`inline'). Thank you. > ___ > Debconf-discuss mailing list > Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org > http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss > Dear Julian, This whole thread was crucial. The South African DHA-84 Form 11 which I filled recommended to get "Hepatitis A" vaccination done only if you are going to stay in South Africa for more than 3 months. With your insight/knowledge I did take the vaccine today as its better to take it rather than give opportunity to get sick while traveling due to water, something as severe as "Hepatitis A" which spreads with water. although will be sticking with bottled water or filtered water as much as possible. I would suggest to put out a mass e-mail as this in the other attendees interest to get vaccinated. -- Regards, Shirish Agarwal शिरीष अग्रवाल My quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com EB80 462B 08E1 A0DE A73A 2C2F 9F3D C7A4 E1C4 D2D8 ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] "Hepatitis A" vaccination recommendation was Re: Water supply at the venue
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 9:05 PM, shirish शिरीष wrote: > at bottom :- > > On 14/06/2016, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > >> Just to add: A "Hepatitis A" vaccination is recommended for South >> African cities (at least in Germany it's recommended). It has a >> tendency to spread with water. >> >> -- >> Debian Developer - deb.li/jak | jak-linux.org - free software dev >> >> When replying, only quote what is necessary, and write each reply >> directly below the part(s) it pertains to (`inline'). Thank you. >> ___ >> Debconf-discuss mailing list >> Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org >> http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss >> > > Dear Julian, > This whole thread was crucial. The South African DHA-84 Form 11 which > I filled recommended to get "Hepatitis A" vaccination done only if you > are going to stay in South Africa for more than 3 months. > > With your insight/knowledge I did take the vaccine today as its better > to take it rather than give opportunity to get sick while traveling > due to water, something as severe as "Hepatitis A" which spreads with > water. although will be sticking with bottled water or filtered water > as much as possible. > > I would suggest to put out a mass e-mail as this in the other > attendees interest to get vaccinated. The serious reply: While you should be fine, in a large city with reliable services, in South Africa, I think getting a Hep A vaccination is a good thing in general. I think South African citizens get these as babies. I had one in 2012 again, but only because I work on a sewage works. Most of the water-related diseases in the south of the continent is only hazardous on long term exposure without alternative clean drinking water, which is where the 'more than 3 months' thing comes in. Going hiking in remote parts, and similar activities (like, maybe attending a conference?) is still fine, you may just get a runny tummy for a day or two. The joking reply: Shirish, surely nothing in South Africa is as bad as a Delhi-belly??? > > -- > Regards, > Shirish Agarwal शिरीष अग्रवाल > My quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0 > http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ > http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com > EB80 462B 08E1 A0DE A73A 2C2F 9F3D C7A4 E1C4 D2D8 > ___ > Debconf-discuss mailing list > Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org > http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] "Hepatitis A" vaccination recommendation was Re: Water supply at the venue
shirish शिरीष wrote: > With your insight/knowledge I did take the vaccine today as its better > to take it rather than give opportunity to get sick while traveling > due to water, something as severe as "Hepatitis A" which spreads with > water. Only if the water is improperly treated, or contaminated, I think. This is unlikely an issue on the university campus. There's some risk of transmission between people though[0] (shared bathrooms and such?) and it already seems quite common that DebConf attendees return home with flu or similar. So, sure, let's share health and hygeine advice if we can. > I would suggest to put out a mass e-mail as this in the other > attendees interest to get vaccinated. It seems advisable since, at least in the UK, it's free, and after a follow-up dose you should be immune for 25+ years to infection, or to returning home and spreading it to others. Many of us will be travelling again to other places. It's best to have this at least 2 weeks before travel, but the vaccine can be helpful in fighting infection even if you were *already* exposed[1]. I think I'm having mine tomorrow. [0]: http://www.fitfortravel.nhs.uk/advice/disease-prevention-advice/hepatitis-a.aspx#intro [1]: http://www.cdc.gov/hepatitis/hav/havfaq.htm#protection Regards, -- Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Last call for keys for keysigning in Cape Town, South Africa
Hi Aníbal (2016.06.15_12:15:59_+0200) > Yes! We'll kindly ask the organizers to read and project it every > morning. There is no morning session in the schedule. But we can announce it at the opening, and I've asked Gunnar to give an introduction talk to the continuous keysigning, somewhere near the start of the conference. We can throw in a hash-reverification session half way through the conference, if there's demand. SR -- Stefano Rivera http://tumbleweed.org.za/ +1 415 683 3272 ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Water supply at the venue
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 10:26:32 +0200 Bernelle Verster wrote: > Hi Sven > > > > On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 11:14 PM, Sven Bartscher > wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > I remember reading that tap water is not generally drinkable in South > > Africa (unfortunately I don't remember where). > > Water is drinkable in the towns and metropolitan areas, regardless of > what some people may tell you. > > http://www.southafrica.net/za/en/travel-tips/entry/travel-tip-drinking-water > > > > > So now I'm wondering how much I need to worry about getting water. Can > > I just drink tap water (that's what I'm used to) or should I buy > > bottled water? > > But, in the Fuller residence where most of the attendees are staying > there are two confirmed water fountains with chilled, filtered water. > We are not producing water bottles this year, so please remember to > bring your own. Thanks for clearing this up! Regards Sven pgp4Mwg6TqZy8.pgp Description: Digitale Signatur von OpenPGP ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] "Hepatitis A" vaccination recommendation was Re: Water supply at the venue
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 07:05:04PM +, shirish शिरीष wrote: > at bottom :- > > On 14/06/2016, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > > > Just to add: A "Hepatitis A" vaccination is recommended for South > > African cities (at least in Germany it's recommended). It has a > > tendency to spread with water. > > > > -- > > Debian Developer - deb.li/jak | jak-linux.org - free software dev > > > > When replying, only quote what is necessary, and write each reply > > directly below the part(s) it pertains to (`inline'). Thank you. > > ___ > > Debconf-discuss mailing list > > Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org > > http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss > > > > Dear Julian, > This whole thread was crucial. The South African DHA-84 Form 11 which > I filled recommended to get "Hepatitis A" vaccination done only if you > are going to stay in South Africa for more than 3 months. > > With your insight/knowledge I did take the vaccine today as its better > to take it rather than give opportunity to get sick while traveling > due to water, something as severe as "Hepatitis A" which spreads with > water. although will be sticking with bottled water or filtered water > as much as possible. Severe might be overstated. 90% heal within 1 month, 10% might take a few months to heal, and only 0.01% to 0.1% are lethal.[1] The annoying (or good?) part is you'll only notice it after DebConf has finished, as incubation time is around 2 weeks. So, yes, it's a good idea to get it, but as it won't cause permanent damage it's not an absolute must I think. [1] German source: https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/Infekt/EpidBull/Merkblaetter/Ratgeber_HepatitisA.html#doc2374552bodyText8 -- Debian Developer - deb.li/jak | jak-linux.org - free software dev When replying, only quote what is necessary, and write each reply directly below the part(s) it pertains to (`inline'). Thank you. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] "Hepatitis A" vaccination recommendation was Re: Water supply at the venue
]] Steven Chamberlain > It seems advisable since, at least in the UK, it's free, and after a > follow-up dose you should be immune for 25+ years to infection, or to > returning home and spreading it to others. Many of us will be > travelling again to other places. My vaccination card claims 10-15 years, but yeah, it'll protect you for an extended period of time as long as you have your booster. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Late Registeration
On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 09:32:39AM +0430, Ebrahim A. Senejani wrote: > Dear Friends > any reply? Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 08:05:52 -0300 From: David Bremner To: "Ebrahim A. Senejani" , debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org Subject: Re: [Debconf-discuss] Late Registeration User-Agent: Notmuch/0.22+15~g1aa6f90 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/24.5.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) You can register at https://debconf16.debconf.org I'm afraid you've missed the deadline for application for a travel bursary; the travel rankings are complete and the money is allocated. d -- -- Patty Langasek harmo...@dodds.net | harmo...@debian.org -- At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be sure of where you belong anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
