Re: [Debconf-discuss] Debian Kids Camp for DebConf-next
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 05:42:35AM +0200, Hector Oron wrote: > > Premises: > > 0. I do not think creating yet another mailing list, project, > infrastructure, ... is really needed. > 1. debian...@lists.debian.org, a.k.a. > https://lists.debian.org/debian-jr/, holds very low traffic. > 2. debconf-team must need to coordinate in some aspects with > debian-jr for debconf organization. > > Therefore, I propose: > > 0. Use mailing list listed in premises 1. to develop didactic > methods to teach kids during a week parallel to DebConf, any needed > software can be discussed and finally uploaded to Debian archive if > needed for activities going on there. That might help to revive > debian-jr project. > 1. When approaching DebConf, debian-jr must coordinate with DebConf > team, trying to avoid any overhead on DebConf team, DebConf kids camp > status updates should be discussed in debconf-team, or announced in > debconf-announce. I like the plan even if "debian-jr must coordinate with DebConf team" does not reflect the reality: Whoever steps into debian-jr *becomes* debian-jr itself (because there does not seem to be any such thing like debian-jr team any more). So if those people are DebConfIstas that's perfectly fine and I would like this plan very much but it just would be an internal coordination (as long as no new rush from outside would be triggered). Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Debian Kids Camp for DebConf-next
2012/7/18 Andreas Tille : > On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 05:42:35AM +0200, Hector Oron wrote: >> >> Premises: >> >> 0. I do not think creating yet another mailing list, project, >> infrastructure, ... is really needed. >> 1. debian...@lists.debian.org, a.k.a. >> https://lists.debian.org/debian-jr/, holds very low traffic. >> 2. debconf-team must need to coordinate in some aspects with >> debian-jr for debconf organization. >> >> Therefore, I propose: >> >> 0. Use mailing list listed in premises 1. to develop didactic >> methods to teach kids during a week parallel to DebConf, any needed >> software can be discussed and finally uploaded to Debian archive if >> needed for activities going on there. That might help to revive >> debian-jr project. That is an appropiate task to pursuit as long as we don't add more tasks to the debconf local team, i agree. We need to manage the effort to make activities for children even if only a few members of this thread assist. So count with me. -- Atte. Manuel Flores "Good artists borrow, great artists steal" - Pablo Picasso ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] one of the many reasons DebConfs are great (Re: DM application of Ian Campbell)
Hi, after DebConf12 I read the replies to Ian Campbells DM application, which ended with Bdales reply: On Samstag, 14. Juli 2012, Bdale Garbee wrote: > I strongly support Ian Campbell's application for Debian Maintainer > status. I didn't know him well previously, but his help working on > debian-installer support and related u-boot issues on the Dreamplug > during Debconf12 is greatly appreciated, and gave me the chance to work > with him directly, in-person, over the course of a couple days. I look > forward to many more contributions to Debian from him in the future. (read the whole thread starting at http://lists.debian.org/1342221322.8586.271.ca...@hastur.hellion.org.uk - it's heartwarming :-) This, improving the Debian community by creating excellent opportunities to work together, is one of my main motivations for doing DebConf work, and I really loved it to see it "summed up" this nicely in the whole thread. And similarily, I'm happy to learn that (appearantly) DebConf12 made Leandro apply for non-uploading DD now as well! And, (knowing DebConf a bit) I know there have been many more advancements I know nothing or little about! :-) thank you all for making Debian what it is, both technically & socially, cheers, Holger P.S.: this is also why I think we should keep the DebConf/Debian newbee initiative! ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-team] Debian Kids Camp for DebConf-next
Manuel Flores dijo [Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 10:24:14AM -0600]: > That is an appropiate task to pursuit as long as we don't add more > tasks to the debconf local team, i agree. We need to manage the effort > to make activities for children even if only a few members of this > thread assist. > So count with me. I only skimmed through this mail, as I have currently sporadic-only network access, and too much pending mail to process. I think this proposal is important and might bring many people to DebConf who would not attend otherwise, or might allow some parents in Debian to spend more vacation time with their family, which leads to a happy Debian corpus, and is great. Even more in the setting of Le Camp, which is perfect for that However, I fear the effort might be too hard, and -want it or not- part of it will fall upon the shoulder of the DC13 locals. This time, also, there are no "locals" in the strict sense of the term. Also, being it Switzerland, I fear that saying we will have a childcare-like activity, we have to take care of the legal issues. Also, from a more practical side: It would be great to have somebody giving activities to the kids. Regina and I were part of a Scouts-like non-formal education group, and we were both "guides" of children. She even told me she could be in such a team. However... What about language barriers? Can a Spanish-and-English-only speaker provide activities to a German-speaking five year old child? What about age differences? We do have several parents in the group who can be interested in this, but maybe not enough to have a large enough group of children of compatible ages. About accomodation: Not counting camping, we have space for 325 people in Le Camp. Being in Central Europe, it is not impossible that we get that number of attendees. Can we dare to provide lodging, possibly against our desired attendance? I'd love this initiative to come to fruition. But we have to look at all possible downsides. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
