Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] Arriving at Managua airport

2012-07-02 Thread Christian PERRIER 
Quoting gregor herrmann (gregor+deb...@comodo.priv.at):

> Confirmed, it takes a few minutes but is completely problem- and
> painless.


Customs too? How about goods you bring (IIRC you mentioned you have
cheese)? Nothing specific?

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] video team meeting tomorrow, 11:00 in the morning

2012-07-02 Thread Christian PERRIER 
Quoting Holger Levsen (hol...@layer-acht.org):

> - setup of everything (cables, cameras, computers, etc + test the software)
>   - tomorrow we will start preparing computers in the hacklab, from Wednesday
> Thursday on we can access the auditoriums during the day to actually set
> up things there.

Just to confirm: the beast named "R3DVSWITCH" is on its way along with
its power adapter and a bunch of firewire cables, along with me. The
laptop is in my carry-on bag while the rest travels with the chees^W^W
my main bag, already registered for MGA.


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] Arriving at Managua airport

2012-07-02 Thread gregor herrmann 
On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 09:06:03 +0200, Christian PERRIER wrote:

> > Confirmed, it takes a few minutes but is completely problem- and
> > painless.
> Customs too? How about goods you bring (IIRC you mentioned you have
> cheese)? Nothing specific?

Customs was not also painless but also quick. Smile, put your bags on
the belt, smile, take our bags, hand over your custom declarations
form (where I had checked "no" on all questions), say goodbye.

It least that's how I did it :)
(From what I've heard from others it was the same for them.)

Cheers,
gregor

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[Debconf-discuss] cdn.debian.net pointing at .mit.edu mirror from DC12 connections

2012-07-02 Thread Luca Capello 
Hi there!

My annual DebConf report, knowing that network setup is not finished:

  
  

  
  

Here at UCA, cdn.d.n is pointing at mirrors in:

* the USA (yesterday and today, dc12 Wi-Fi, IP 172.30.36.137, not really
useful because of the half-working Wi-Fi)
=
root@gismo:/etc# host cdn.debian.net
cdn.debian.net is an alias for deb.cdn.araki.net.
deb.cdn.araki.net has address 128.30.2.36
deb.cdn.araki.net has address 64.50.236.52

root@gismo:/etc# host 128.30.2.36
36.2.30.128.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer rocky-mountain.csail.mit.edu.

root@gismo:/etc# host 64.50.236.52
52.236.50.64.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer ftp-chi.osuosl.org.
=

* the official Debian mirror in Chile (1 hour ago, wired network)
=
root@gismo:/etc# ping -c 1 cdn.debian.net
PING deb.cdn.araki.net (200.75.30.181) 56(84) bytes of data.

--- deb.cdn.araki.net ping statistics ---
1 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 0ms

root@gismo:/etc# host 200.75.30.181
Host 181.30.75.200.in-addr.arpa. not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)

root@gismo:/etc# host ftp.cl.debian.org
ftp.cl.debian.org has address 200.75.30.181
=

* but never the Debian mirror at UCA (which despite ping's error works
fine via apt-get when on wired network)
=
root@gismo:/etc# ping -c 1 debian.uni.edu.ni
PING debian.uni.edu.ni (165.98.4.80) 56(84) bytes of data.

--- debian.uni.edu.ni ping statistics ---
1 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 0ms

root@gismo:/etc# apt-cache policy | grep edu.ni
 500 http://debian.uni.edu.ni/debian/ sid/main Translation-en
 990 http://debian.uni.edu.ni/debian/ sid/main amd64 Packages
 origin debian.uni.edu.ni

root@gismo:/etc# apt-get update | grep edu.ni
Hit http://debian.uni.edu.ni sid InRelease
Hit http://debian.uni.edu.ni sid/main amd64 Packages
Hit http://debian.uni.edu.ni sid/main Translation-en
=

First question: as I asked previous DebConfs, would it be possible to
point cdn.debian.net to the internal mirror ("todo va", I am not in a
hurry)?

Second question not related to DebConf12: is the current setup OK or it
should be adjusted WRT the UCA mirror?

Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] The Return of the Assassins

2012-07-02 Thread Wouter Verhelst 
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 07:26:13AM +0200, Christian PERRIER wrote:
> Quoting Giacomo Catenazzi (c...@debian.org):
> 
> > Could we require that assassins must have a public (and faithful)
> > image on penta?
> 
> 
> Agreed with Holger:no. It's part of the fun.

This only reinforces my resolve not to participate in assassins, even
though I like the game quite much.

In 2007, I was killed before my target had even arrived. That sucked.

In 2008, I was killed before I even knew the game had started. I guess
it must've been about 5 minutes after opening. That sucked even more.

If you're a well-known person (who appears with a faithful picture on
planet debian, amongst other things), then you're an easy target, and
people having to kill you have an unfair advantage.

If there's not going to be any way for me to figure out who my target
is, even though my appointed assassin will immediately know who I am by
just looking at my name, I'm not going to participate.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] cdn.debian.net pointing at .mit.edu mirror from DC12 connections

2012-07-02 Thread Holger Levsen 
Hi,

On Montag, 2. Juli 2012, Luca Capello wrote:
> Here at UCA, cdn.d.n is pointing at mirrors in:
> * but never the Debian mirror at UCA (which despite ping's error works
> fine via apt-get when on wired network)

that mirror is located at UNI, not UCA. (its on the other side of the street, 
but I'm not sure we dont have international-routing to there ;) 

> First question: as I asked previous DebConfs, would it be possible to
> point cdn.debian.net to the internal mirror ("todo va", I am not in a
> hurry)?

sounds like a good idea. I'd also support redirecting ftp*.debian.org to the 
internal mirror. (btw, on homer in /root/test there should be one and the is 
also a root-screen session running debmirror... feel free to set this up 
properly.)
 
> Second question not related to DebConf12: is the current setup OK or it
> should be adjusted WRT the UCA mirror?

I was told in April/May that in the past that mirror was very unreliable, 
thats why noone was using it. 

Maybe this has changed, maybe not. I suggest to talk to locals about this 
first, before changing cdn.d.n.


thanks & cheers,
Holger
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[Debconf-discuss] Volunteering for Front Desk!

2012-07-02 Thread Norman Garcia 
Hi!

We have now created a wiki page where you can volunteer to help on the
Front Desk:

http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf12/Frontdesk/Shifts

Please consider adding yourself there for a few shifts.  The front desk is
in the hacklab, with cooling, electricity and network, so most of the time
you can just sit at the desk and continue hacking.

We expect to have a training session about 18:00 each day, so no special
knowledge is required.

Thanks,


Norman Garcia

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] Arriving at Managua airport

2012-07-02 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor 
On 07/02/2012 09:37 AM, gregor herrmann wrote:
> Customs was not also painless but also quick. Smile, put your bags on
> the belt, smile, take our bags, hand over your custom declarations
> form (where I had checked "no" on all questions), say goodbye.

I was pulled aside at the customs x-ray in MGA because of the amount of
electronic and networking equipment in my checked luggage.  The customs
agent opened my bag, and i smiled and explained i was going to a
conferencia tecnologica (my spanish is terrible).  i showed him the
spanish version of the dc12 invitation letter that i got from Leandro.
he asked to keep the letter, i agreed, and he gave me my bag and sent me
on my way without a hassle.

Very smooth, actually, and everyone was friendly about the situation.

If you're carrying gear for the conference, i do recommend having a
printed copy of the invitation, though.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] The Return of the Assassins

2012-07-02 Thread Sami Liedes 
On Mon, Jul 02, 2012 at 12:32:09PM -0600, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> This only reinforces my resolve not to participate in assassins, even
> though I like the game quite much.
> 
> In 2007, I was killed before my target had even arrived. That sucked.
> 
> In 2008, I was killed before I even knew the game had started. I guess
> it must've been about 5 minutes after opening. That sucked even more.

In 2009, I was killed after the game had already ended, so I did not
confirm the kill. The organizers decided to confirm it without asking
from me instead. This in fact changed the winner of the game (which
wouldn't have been me either way). When I complained on the mailing
list, I was told that the rules do not matter, because it's only a
game.

After that, I have not played.

Also it seemed to me that players have had a vastly different notion
of what consists a valid kill. That late kill was made in a busy
hacklab while I was talking with other people, lightly touching with a
sock so well hidden that nobody of those I was talking to noticed and,
in fact, it took me a quite a while to understand what this assassin
wanted.

Sami


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] Arriving at Managua airport

2012-07-02 Thread Wouter Verhelst 
On Mon, Jul 02, 2012 at 02:15:41PM -0600, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
> On 07/02/2012 09:37 AM, gregor herrmann wrote:
> > Customs was not also painless but also quick. Smile, put your bags on
> > the belt, smile, take our bags, hand over your custom declarations
> > form (where I had checked "no" on all questions), say goodbye.
> 
> I was pulled aside at the customs x-ray in MGA because of the amount of
> electronic and networking equipment in my checked luggage.  The customs
> agent opened my bag, and i smiled and explained i was going to a
> conferencia tecnologica (my spanish is terrible).  i showed him the
> spanish version of the dc12 invitation letter that i got from Leandro.
> he asked to keep the letter, i agreed, and he gave me my bag and sent me
> on my way without a hassle.
> 
> Very smooth, actually, and everyone was friendly about the situation.
> 
> If you're carrying gear for the conference, i do recommend having a
> printed copy of the invitation, though.

Not necessary, in my experience.

I got there with three twinpacts, and had a baggage check, too. It took
me about five minutes of explaining, but I was allowed to go on, without
any letters of invitation.

Though I suppose it can't help :-)

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[Debconf-discuss] DebConf12: Last call for keys for keysigning in Managua, Nicaragua

2012-07-02 Thread Aníbal Monsalve Salazar 
DebConf12: Las call for keys for keysigning in Managua, Nicaragua

As part of the 13th Debian Conference in Managua, Nicaragua, there will
be OpenPGP (pgp/gpg) keysignings.  If you intend to participate in the
DebConf12 keysignings, please send your ascii armored public key as
explained at [0] no later than 23:59 UTC on Thursday 5th of July, 2012.

You have less than 2 days and a few hours to send your key.

More (and up-to-date) information is available at [0], so keep watching
it.

[0] http://people.debian.org/~anibal/ksp-dc12/ksp-dc12.html

If you have questions please send them to the mailing list at
debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org. If you don't want to post to the
mailing list, send your questions to ani...@debian.org and
d...@debian.org.


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] The Return of the Assassins

2012-07-02 Thread Christian PERRIER 
Quoting Sami Liedes (sami.lie...@iki.fi):

> In 2009, I was killed after the game had already ended, so I did not
> confirm the kill. The organizers decided to confirm it without asking
> from me instead. This in fact changed the winner of the game (which
> wouldn't have been me either way). When I complained on the mailing
> list, I was told that the rules do not matter, because it's only a
> game.
> 
> After that, I have not played.

Well, nobody has, as there has been to game at DC10 or 11.

The best I can pomise is that the game *will* get attention and I
commit myself to do the best for a fair game.

I keep standing with my answer to Wouter: sure, more "visible" persons
have harder times, that's part of the game but, from my own
experience, I can tell this is also part of the fun..:-)... And
seeking an unknown target while still trying him|her to not notice
that you're after him|her is also fun. Ask some of my targets to learn
how I managed to catch them.:-). One of them keeps offering me great
venezuelan Ron at every DebConf.

Really, the more players we have, the best is the game. Wouter, Sami,
(re)consider joining..:)







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Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] Arriving at Managua airport

2012-07-02 Thread Wouter Verhelst 
On Mon, Jul 02, 2012 at 09:52:25PM -0600, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> Though I suppose it can't help :-)

Er.

s/help/hurt/

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