Re: [Debconf-discuss] group meals?
Quoting Jimmy Kaplowitz (ji...@debconf.org): > Feel free to email registrat...@debconf.org explaining your needs. I do not > know how much advance notice the cafeteria staff need to make special meals, > but they will at least be able to identify which of their dishes have > ingredients you are allergic to so that you can avoid them. I also strongly suspect that a cafeteria, in a place like Columbia University, in a country like USA where allergies to food are a known and understood fact.is definitely able to tell which dishes have this or that ingredient that's unsuitable for people who are allergic to some specific item. Just rough guess, of course...:) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Yet Another Cheese, and Wine, and Beer....Party (2nd announcement)
For late subscribers to debconf-discussor to people who might
benefit from a reminder in order to *think* about bringing stuff for
the Cheese&Wine party, please allow me to quote myself:
> As all Debconfs since Debconf5, Debconf10 will feature a social event
> based on cheese.
>
> That event is traditionnally named "Cheese and Wine party". The
> schedule is not completely secured, but we expect it to happen either
> on Aug. 2nd (Monday) or Aug. 3rd (Tuesday), after dinner.
>
> Still, as usual, the event is first meant to share as many cheese from
> the world as people, accompanied by some wine. It also happens that
> "some" people bring other various liquids from their country, most of
> these containing various amounts of ethanol. Let's call this a side
> effect.
>
> The main point of the even is about *sharing*. It means that
> participants are expected to try bringing "material" for the party:
> most of the time cheese from your
> country/state/region/village/canton/province/kolkhoze/community/etc. but
> often wine or, indeed, any other "very good stuff that can be eaten
> and is typical from your place".
>
> Of course, this is Debian: nobody will force you to bring something in
> order to participate. That may be difficult for some people, or even
> impossible...but, at least, *try* to do it!
>
> Debconf being held in the United States of America, where import
> regulations have the reputation to be fairly strict, some of you might
> be scared by bringing stinking, smelly and improbable milk
> derivativeand have to leave it at customs in ${airport}.
>
> From investigations we made up to now, importation of cheese in USA is
> not strictly forbidden but sometimes restricted for some varieties of
> cheese. The most accurate indication we could find was about cured and
> half cured cheese being allowed while non cured cheese (such as
> cottage cheese) being prohibited.
>
> Apparently, in en_US, "half-cured" means something along the line of
> French camembert and cured is meant for about any cheese that's
> "hard". So, it's not really about age, but about "hardness".
>
> Official documents we found (thanks to Jimmy Kaplowitz who did some
> investigation) didn't mention whether "pasteurized/unpasteurized"
> status is important or not. Of course, pasteurized cheese is a sin but
> I'd recommend having the word printed on the cheese box, in order to
> be sure.
>
> As example for cheese lovers, here are French cheese I can think about
> bringing:
>
> Rocamadour, Morbier, Brie de Meaux, Trappe d'Echourgnac, Brocciu,
> Picodon, Tomme de Savoie, Reblochon, Cantal, Ossau-Iraty..and of course a
> Pouligny-St-Pierre and a Camembert
>
> Some I would *not* bring:
> Maroilles, Vieux Lille, Neufchatel, Cancoillote, Cabécou, Bleu
> d'Auvergne...
>
> (hint for French cheese names:
> 'zgrep -i -E "The.*release" /usr/share/doc/passwd/changelog.Debian.gz')
>
> So, please think about it. You *can* bring something. And, yes,
> there's room for that in your suitcase. Just drop 1 or 2 t-shirts and
> all these neat electronic gadgets you think you needand make room
> for a box of "good stuff".
>
> This year, and following a recent discussion in one of Debian mailing
> list, a side event of C&W will be a "your beer is better than mine"
> party. In short, along with cheese and hopefully wine from your place,
> it's not forbidden to bring some good beer that you think would
> qualify in a beer contest.
>
> This is indeed a special challenge for citizens of United States of
> America who have to convince the rest of the world that, no, not every
> US beer tastes like Budweiser. So, well, remove 1 or 2 more t-shirts,
> or bring a larger suitcase|backpack and make room for a good beer!
>
> We will manage to find a place to store material even for those of you
> who come early, for Debcamp. Not being able to find a fridge in USA
> would be a shame, right?
>
> This year, DC10 organizers even contacted me in advance about the C&W
> and we are already planning logisitics for it: location, material such
> as plates, tables, knives, corkscrews, etc. Specific thanks to
> Michelle Lynn Hall who is already counting and planning stuff over
> there along with Richard Darst.
>
>
> So, in short, please think about what you could bring over there as
> you consider packing your stuff. Debconf^H^H^H^HCamp starts in a
> little bit more than 2 weeks, so it is time!
> I'm definitely sure that one will be legen...wait for it...dary!
>
> A still generic wiki page already exists at
> http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf10/CheeseWineBoF
>
> I'll enhance it in the upcoming days. Of course, please feel free to
> help in maintaining it. For instance, "registering" yourself there, if
> you intend to bring something will help me in figuring out if I have
> to enter panic mode or if we have enough stuff for a good party.
>
>
>
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] group meals?
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:32:05 -0400, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote: > Feel free to email registrat...@debconf.org explaining your needs. I do not > know how much advance notice the cafeteria staff need to make special meals, > but they will at least be able to identify which of their dishes have > ingredients you are allergic to so that you can avoid them. The cafeteria folks told us that if anyone had a special allergy that was not already covered by vegetarian/vegan/celiac/kosher/hallal that one would simply need to speak to them and they could make something specific for your needs. They did explicitly say that you actually need to have a serious issue for them to entertain this, as they would not appreciate people asking them to make some special food just because you do not like what is provided. micah pgpqcSTAjClld.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] group meals?
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:26:39 -0400, u...@debian.org (Aaron M. Ucko) wrote: > - If so, will the front desk open in time for me to obtain the > necessary credentials beforehand on Day 1? (I will be staying > off-campus and not arriving until the previous evening, so wasn't > planning to head up to Columbia until that morning. Again, no big > deal if not.) It depends on what 'in time' for you means. Likely yes, but you would need to be more specific about what Day 1 is (Debcamp? Debconf? A date would help) and what time you are thinking about. micha pgp28gFsMJRH7.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Yet Another Cheese, and Wine, and Beer....Party (2nd announcement)
Will there any other vegans (who don't eat dairy at all) attending?
If so I might try to get my hands on something from Dr. Cow
http://www.dr-cow.com/products/
Otherwise I'll just bring some good organic peanut butter and crackers (or wine)
Rohit
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 6:56 AM, Christian PERRIER wrote:
>
> For late subscribers to debconf-discussor to people who might
> benefit from a reminder in order to *think* about bringing stuff for
> the Cheese&Wine party, please allow me to quote myself:
>
>> As all Debconfs since Debconf5, Debconf10 will feature a social event
>> based on cheese.
>>
>> That event is traditionnally named "Cheese and Wine party". The
>> schedule is not completely secured, but we expect it to happen either
>> on Aug. 2nd (Monday) or Aug. 3rd (Tuesday), after dinner.
>>
>> Still, as usual, the event is first meant to share as many cheese from
>> the world as people, accompanied by some wine. It also happens that
>> "some" people bring other various liquids from their country, most of
>> these containing various amounts of ethanol. Let's call this a side
>> effect.
>>
>> The main point of the even is about *sharing*. It means that
>> participants are expected to try bringing "material" for the party:
>> most of the time cheese from your
>> country/state/region/village/canton/province/kolkhoze/community/etc. but
>> often wine or, indeed, any other "very good stuff that can be eaten
>> and is typical from your place".
>>
>> Of course, this is Debian: nobody will force you to bring something in
>> order to participate. That may be difficult for some people, or even
>> impossible...but, at least, *try* to do it!
>>
>> Debconf being held in the United States of America, where import
>> regulations have the reputation to be fairly strict, some of you might
>> be scared by bringing stinking, smelly and improbable milk
>> derivativeand have to leave it at customs in ${airport}.
>>
>> From investigations we made up to now, importation of cheese in USA is
>> not strictly forbidden but sometimes restricted for some varieties of
>> cheese. The most accurate indication we could find was about cured and
>> half cured cheese being allowed while non cured cheese (such as
>> cottage cheese) being prohibited.
>>
>> Apparently, in en_US, "half-cured" means something along the line of
>> French camembert and cured is meant for about any cheese that's
>> "hard". So, it's not really about age, but about "hardness".
>>
>> Official documents we found (thanks to Jimmy Kaplowitz who did some
>> investigation) didn't mention whether "pasteurized/unpasteurized"
>> status is important or not. Of course, pasteurized cheese is a sin but
>> I'd recommend having the word printed on the cheese box, in order to
>> be sure.
>>
>> As example for cheese lovers, here are French cheese I can think about
>> bringing:
>>
>> Rocamadour, Morbier, Brie de Meaux, Trappe d'Echourgnac, Brocciu,
>> Picodon, Tomme de Savoie, Reblochon, Cantal, Ossau-Iraty..and of course a
>> Pouligny-St-Pierre and a Camembert
>>
>> Some I would *not* bring:
>> Maroilles, Vieux Lille, Neufchatel, Cancoillote, Cabécou, Bleu
>> d'Auvergne...
>>
>> (hint for French cheese names:
>> 'zgrep -i -E "The.*release" /usr/share/doc/passwd/changelog.Debian.gz')
>>
>> So, please think about it. You *can* bring something. And, yes,
>> there's room for that in your suitcase. Just drop 1 or 2 t-shirts and
>> all these neat electronic gadgets you think you needand make room
>> for a box of "good stuff".
>>
>> This year, and following a recent discussion in one of Debian mailing
>> list, a side event of C&W will be a "your beer is better than mine"
>> party. In short, along with cheese and hopefully wine from your place,
>> it's not forbidden to bring some good beer that you think would
>> qualify in a beer contest.
>>
>> This is indeed a special challenge for citizens of United States of
>> America who have to convince the rest of the world that, no, not every
>> US beer tastes like Budweiser. So, well, remove 1 or 2 more t-shirts,
>> or bring a larger suitcase|backpack and make room for a good beer!
>>
>> We will manage to find a place to store material even for those of you
>> who come early, for Debcamp. Not being able to find a fridge in USA
>> would be a shame, right?
>>
>> This year, DC10 organizers even contacted me in advance about the C&W
>> and we are already planning logisitics for it: location, material such
>> as plates, tables, knives, corkscrews, etc. Specific thanks to
>> Michelle Lynn Hall who is already counting and planning stuff over
>> there along with Richard Darst.
>>
>>
>> So, in short, please think about what you could bring over there as
>> you consider packing your stuff. Debconf^H^H^H^HCamp starts in a
>> little bit more than 2 weeks, so it is time!
>> I'm definitely sure that one will be legen...wait for it...dary!
>>
>> A still generic wiki page already exists at
>> http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf10/CheeseWineBoF
>>
>>
Re: [Debconf-discuss] group meals?
micah anderson writes: > It depends on what 'in time' for you means. Likely yes, but you would > need to be more specific about what Day 1 is (Debcamp? Debconf? A date > would help) and what time you are thinking about. Sure; sorry if I was unclear. My concern was that if breakfast would normally be provided but require first visiting the front desk to sign in and obtain credentials, I might not have time to do so on the morning of August 1 (Debconf Day 1) and still make it to the first talk. If (per Blars) we're on our own for breakfast anyway, I don't so much care when the front desk opens that day. Thanks! -- Aaron M. Ucko, KB1CJC (amu at alum.mit.edu, ucko at debian.org) http://www.mit.edu/~amu/ | http://stuff.mit.edu/cgi/finger/?...@monk.mit.edu ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
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Quoting Rohit Mehta (pig...@gmail.com): > Will there any other vegans (who don't eat dairy at all) attending? Most certainly, yes. So, indeed, bringing some stuff suited for vegans would be great. Sorry for forgetting about mentioning this. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Arrival "coordination"
It's always good to arrive along with fellow Debianers to DebConf and survive through the wild local transportation systems to make it up to the conference location. For this to happen, filling in http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf10/TravelCoordination helps knowing who is arriving through the same airport/station/submarine than you and try travelling together up to the DC place. Don't forget filling in your details! See other entries for good examples. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] spare gsm phone
Hi, so it seems that my mobile phone didnt survive swimming in Delaware River... does by chance anyone has a spare gsm phone to lent to me? As I'll need to get a new one anyone I might also buy one here, but then I dont want to think about the options I have at the moment, thats why I ask to borrow one. But if you know about either a very cheap one or one that runs Debian well, I guess I'd be happy to know too :-) cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Arrival "coordination"
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 08:11:52PM +0200, Christian PERRIER wrote: > For this to happen, filling in > http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf10/TravelCoordination helps > knowing who is arriving through the same airport/station/submarine Speaking of which, I just arrived via JFK and basically followed the instructions on the Wiki via AirTrain to Howard Beach and then via train A (8 Av Express) towards Manhatten. I tried to switch to train 1 (red circle with white 1) at 34st Penn, but wasn't able to find the transfer gates. Only option seemed to leave Penn towards 7st Ave. I'm not sure if this would mean paying twice. However, I didn't leave Penn but got back to train A and moved two stations further to the north. At 59st Columbia Circle, switching to train 1 was feasable without exiting to the street. Perhaps one of the locals could clarify the instructions on the wiki, so that others arriving via JFK either find the right transfer gates or also change at 59st. Just my €0.02 -- mail: a...@thur.de http://adi.thur.de PGP/GPG: key via keyserver Once you're done, blog your changeset, twitter your blog post, then post the twitter status as a Facebook link and ping me on IM to let me know. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debian-NYC] Volunteers needed!
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:15:44 -0400, Gabriella Coleman wrote: > Debconf needs your help! Please email me if you would like to chip in. > We would especially like local folks for the front desk, although this > is not required. Hey, guys. I'll try to get up to campus as early as I can tomorrow, at which point I will happily obey instructions. jamie. pgpa67U5zn2TK.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Yet Another Cheese, and Wine, and Beer....Party (2nd announcement)
Christian PERRIER dijo [Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 12:56:17PM +0200]: > > For late subscribers to debconf-discussor to people who might > benefit from a reminder in order to *think* about bringing stuff for > the Cheese&Wine party, please allow me to quote myself: > > > > So, in short, please think about what you could bring over there as > > you consider packing your stuff. Debconf^H^H^H^HCamp starts in a > > little bit more than 2 weeks, so it is time! > > I'm definitely sure that one will be legen...wait for it...dary! Don't be too afraid. I made it today to New York, bringing ~1.25l of fine mezcal (at ~50 degree alcohol) and a (very small, close to 130g) portion of very VERY aged Mexican cheese (20 year old, plus smaller portions to be handed exclusively to The Cheesemaster himself). I was stopped for drugs screening at Houston (well, being a Mexican entering the USA from Argentina, no surprise!). The customs agents asked me specifically to take out that small jar of something with a squishy texture. They saw I was importing non-industrialized alcohol, and smelled the cheese. They promptly decided I was no longer required to expel foul smells to their work environment and sent me to New York. So, in short, please bring along the cheese+wine! ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Arrival "coordination"
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 12:48:12AM +0200, Adrian Knoth wrote: > I tried to switch to train 1 (red circle with white 1) at 34st Penn, but > wasn't able to find the transfer gates. Only option seemed to leave Penn > towards 7st Ave. I'm not sure if this would mean paying twice. It would; the place you should have made your free transfer is 42nd St. > Perhaps one of the locals could clarify the instructions on the wiki, so > that others arriving via JFK either find the right transfer gates or > also change at 59st. Could you suggest how it might be improved? ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
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> > Perhaps one of the locals could clarify the instructions on the wiki, so > > that others arriving via JFK either find the right transfer gates or > > also change at 59st. > Could you suggest how it might be improved? So it might be advisable to remove the statement (and link) about Penn-Station from http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Wiki/DebConf10/JohnFKennedy#Subway_at_Howard_Beach Instead, how about: "Leave A train at 42st street and follow the instructions on PortStation" Something like this. HTH -- mail: a...@thur.de http://adi.thur.de PGP/GPG: key via keyserver ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Yet Another Cheese, and Wine, and Beer....Party (2nd announcement)
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > I was stopped for drugs screening at Houston (well, being a Mexican > entering the USA from Argentina, no surprise!). The customs agents > asked me specifically to take out that small jar of something with a > squishy texture. They saw I was importing non-industrialized alcohol, > and smelled the cheese. They promptly decided I was no longer required > to expel foul smells to their work environment and sent me to New > York. > That is pretty awesome :) *dances on one foot* -- http://twitter.com/damogzito http://stereonaut.net/ New York: 917 715 5664 Mexico City: 55 4383 6914 ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Yet Another Cheese, and Wine, and Beer....Party (2nd announcement)
David Moreno dijo [Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 07:18:40PM -0400]: > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > > I was stopped for drugs screening at Houston (well, being a Mexican > > entering the USA from Argentina, no surprise!). The customs agents > > asked me specifically to take out that small jar of something with a > > squishy texture. They saw I was importing non-industrialized alcohol, > > and smelled the cheese. They promptly decided I was no longer required > > to expel foul smells to their work environment and sent me to New > > York. > > > > That is pretty awesome :) *dances on one foot* What, me being taken for drugs screening? Well, at least no full cavity search was attempted. [ We should move this thread to debconf-curiosa ] ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Arrival "coordination"
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:02:17PM +, Clint Adams wrote: > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 12:48:12AM +0200, Adrian Knoth wrote: > > I tried to switch to train 1 (red circle with white 1) at 34st Penn, but > > wasn't able to find the transfer gates. Only option seemed to leave Penn > > towards 7st Ave. I'm not sure if this would mean paying twice. > > It would; the place you should have made your free transfer is 42nd St. 59th-Columbus Circle would make more sense since it is not a long walk on the transfer. I have updated the instructions to reflect this and remove the confusing parts: http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Wiki/DebConf10/JohnFKennedy#Subway_at_Howard_Beach - richard -- | Richard Darst - rkd@ - boltzmann: up 369 days, 22:07 |http://rkd.zgib.net - pgp 0xBD356740 | "Ye shall know the truth and -- the truth shall make you free" ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Yet Another Cheese, and Wine, and Beer....Party (2nd announcement)
Hi there.
On Jul 25 2010, Christian PERRIER wrote:
> > Apparently, in en_US, "half-cured" means something along the line of
> > French camembert and cured is meant for about any cheese that's
> > "hard". So, it's not really about age, but about "hardness".
Well, this would rule out completely a kind of cheese that we have here
in Brazil called "Minas", which is a pity, since some people may not
know it. One way to describe it would be "to bite 'fresh' milk".
It is not that hard to make it, but I don't think that I would have all
the ingredients.
OTOH, it seems that I can bring some "Prato" with me. :-)
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2010/7/25 Rogério Brito > Well, this would rule out completely a kind of cheese that we have here > in Brazil called "Minas", which is a pity, since some people may not > know it. One way to describe it would be "to bite 'fresh' milk". > Is this it? The "assorted cheeses item". http://www.ipanemagirl.net/dairy.html The store is in Astoria (Queens): http://www.ipanemagirl.net/directions.html :-) -- http://twitter.com/damogzito http://stereonaut.net/ New York: 917 715 5664 Mexico City: 55 4383 6914 ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Yet Another Cheese, and Wine, and Beer....Party (2nd announcement)
Hi, David.
On Jul 25 2010, David Moreno wrote:
> 2010/7/25 Rogério Brito
> > Well, this would rule out completely a kind of cheese that we have
> > here in Brazil called "Minas", which is a pity, since some people
> > may not know it. One way to describe it would be "to bite 'fresh'
> > milk".
>
> Is this it? The "assorted cheeses item".
> http://www.ipanemagirl.net/dairy.html
Yes, the one at the top of "the pentagon" of cheese in that picture. But
with the envelopes, it is not easy to see which one is that.
Here you can see a picture of it (it claims that the Minas cheese is a
inheritance of Portugal, but I sincerely don't know):
http://embaixada-portugal-brasil.blogspot.com/2008/05/queijo-minas-herana-cultural-portuguesa.html
Another one, more illustrative:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Queijo_Minas_Frescal.JPG
> The store is in Astoria (Queens):
> http://www.ipanemagirl.net/directions.html
That's nice. They don't list their prices, though. I would expect it to
be expensive. :-) But that's the best that we may have. :-)
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