Re: [Debconf-discuss] Regarding vaccinations and stuff like that

2008-07-10 Thread Philipp Kern
On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 01:05:38PM -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote:
> That is a bit more important.  If you are going to visit the Iguazu Falls,
> located in Misiones, then it might be a good idea to take the yellow fever
> vaccination.  However, taking into account that we are in the middle of
> winter, and the yellow fever is transmited via mosquitos, the risk is
> almost none.  So, if you don't have time to take the vaccination, it
> doesn't mean you can't visit the falls anyway.

By the way: what does winter in Mar Del Plata mean?  What degrees do I
need to prepare me for?  (Being used to European winters only...)

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Regarding vaccinations and stuff like that

2008-07-10 Thread MJ Ray
Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A further addition: Hepatitis needs two vaccinations the second about
> at least three better six weeks after the first.  [...]

I believe this may vary depending on the vaccine used.  I think I was
told that I need a second vaccination in a few months' time (the first
was a few weeks before a recent trip to Cuba) if I want 20 years
protection, but I don't have my vaccination card to hand just now.
Maybe they used a different vaccine because I was relatively late going.

So if you haven't been to your medical centre yet, please go ASAP.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Regarding vaccinations and stuff like that

2008-07-10 Thread Neil Williams
On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 11:06 +0200, Philipp Kern wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 01:05:38PM -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote:
> > That is a bit more important.  If you are going to visit the Iguazu Falls,
> > located in Misiones, then it might be a good idea to take the yellow fever
> > vaccination.  However, taking into account that we are in the middle of
> > winter, and the yellow fever is transmited via mosquitos, the risk is
> > almost none.  So, if you don't have time to take the vaccination, it
> > doesn't mean you can't visit the falls anyway.
> 
> By the way: what does winter in Mar Del Plata mean?  What degrees do I
> need to prepare me for?  (Being used to European winters only...)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?world=7164


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Regarding vaccinations and stuff like that

2008-07-10 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008, Neil Williams wrote:

> http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?world=7164

Ups, that's no winter.  We can go for a swim every day!  What's the distance
between Hotel and beach??

Kind regards

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Regarding vaccinations and stuff like that

2008-07-10 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008, MJ Ray wrote:

> I believe this may vary depending on the vaccine used.  I think I was
> told that I need a second vaccination in a few months' time (the first
> was a few weeks before a recent trip to Cuba) if I want 20 years
> protection, but I don't have my vaccination card to hand just now.
> Maybe they used a different vaccine because I was relatively late going.

Well, the optimal situation is having a first, having a second some weeks
later to reach immunisation status and having a third some month later
to get long term protection.  I don't remember the exact numbers and
it might vary anyway.

> So if you haven't been to your medical centre yet, please go ASAP.

This is true in any case

  Andreas.

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[Debconf-discuss] driving toward south Argentina after DebConf8: how about roads?

2008-07-10 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Hi all,
  after DebConf8 I'll have some VAC in South Argentina, heading towards
Tierra del Fuego. A possibility I'm considering is traveling a good deal
of kilometers by (rent) car.

However, I've no idea about which kinds of road can I expect driving
south. I've seen that there are a handful of highways: are they in good
shape? which average speed can I assume to travel on them? What about
the other, non-highways, roads?

If the question sound silly ... don't get me started on the situation of
highways in the south of Italy ;), the average speed there can be
*really* low.

TIA,
Cheers.

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[Debconf-discuss] Regarding weather / beach / sea in Mar del Plata

2008-07-10 Thread Margarita Manterola
Hi!

For all of you coming to Argentina from the North Hemisphere, please
remember that seasons are inverted and August in the South means *winter*.
Bring warm clothes.  Bring a sweater and a jacket with you on the plane.
You don't want to wait until you have your luggage to put them on.

You might be wondering what kind of weather you'll face.  Winter in Mar del
Plata is not too bad. Statistically [1], the average maximum temperature in
August is 14 °C (58 °F) and the average minimum temperature is 4 °C (39
°F). With 64 mm (2.52 inches) of rain during the month.

Last year [2], the maximum temperature in August was 17 °C (63 °C), and the
minimum temperature -4 °C (24 °F), and there were 34 mm (1.35 inches) of rain.

>From experience I can tell you that you can expect some nice sunny days,
when spending the afternoon on the beach might be really nice, and you can
also expect some ugly rainy days when you will be glad that all DebConf
happens in the same place, with good heating. And if we are lucky/unlucky
(depending on your point of view) we can even get some quick-to-melt snow.

Regarding going to the sea, don't count on it.  Our sea is not bathed by
any warm current (like the Gulf Current for you guys in the North), so that
even in summer the sea is very cold.  So, if you don't want to go down with
hipothermia, I suggest you don't go further than just getting your feet
wet.

Anyway, for those that wanted to know, the hotel is just in front of the
beach, a few hundred meters from the waterline.

[1]:
http://www.wunderground.com/NORMS/DisplayIntlNORMS.asp?CityCode=87692&Units=both
[2]:
http://www.wunderground.com/history/station/87692/2007/8/10/MonthlyHistory.html

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] driving toward south Argentina after DebConf8: how about roads?

2008-07-10 Thread Martín Ferrari
Hi,

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 09:41, Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  after DebConf8 I'll have some VAC in South Argentina, heading towards
> Tierra del Fuego. A possibility I'm considering is traveling a good deal
> of kilometers by (rent) car.
>
> However, I've no idea about which kinds of road can I expect driving
> south. I've seen that there are a handful of highways: are they in good
> shape? which average speed can I assume to travel on them? What about
> the other, non-highways, roads?

There aren't much highways here. The only two I remember for
long-distance trips are the one going from Buenos Aires to Rosario,
and the other from Buenos Aires to Mar del Plata. The rest are usual
2-track roads. Maximum speed is usually 100-130 km/h, except when the
road goes thru towns, there you have to go below 40.

The national roads are usually usable, but that depends on where you
go. FOr Tierra del Fuego you don't even have a direct road, you have
to cross to Chile and then come back. If you're going along the Andes,
you'll probably take the 40, which is not paved in some places.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] driving toward south Argentina after DebConf8: how about roads?

2008-07-10 Thread Marcela Tiznado

> Hi all,
>   after DebConf8 I'll have some VAC in South Argentina, heading towards
> Tierra del Fuego. A possibility I'm considering is traveling a good deal
> of kilometers by (rent) car.
>
> However, I've no idea about which kinds of road can I expect driving
> south. I've seen that there are a handful of highways: are they in good
> shape? which average speed can I assume to travel on them? What about
> the other, non-highways, roads?
>
> If the question sound silly ... don't get me started on the situation of
> highways in the south of Italy ;), the average speed there can be
> *really* low.
>
> TIA,
> Cheers.
>
>   
Stefano,

Well, did that trip some years ago by car. The roads are not good. The 
1st part of the trip its mostly desertic and straight, quite boring, but 
its on asphalt. Then you have few kilometers of gravel road.

The places I would advice you to visit are: Bariloche, San Martin de los 
Andes, El Chalten (not so popular but I loved it), El Calafate and Ushuaia.

Also have in mind that you have 3171kms from Buenos Aires to Ushuaia and 
its winter, the roads might be frozen.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Regarding weather / beach / sea in Mar del Plata

2008-07-10 Thread Andreas Tille

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008, Margarita Manterola wrote:


Regarding going to the sea, don't count on it.  Our sea is not bathed by
any warm current (like the Gulf Current for you guys in the North), so that
even in summer the sea is very cold.  So, if you don't want to go down with
hipothermia, I suggest you don't go further than just getting your feet
wet.


Hmmm, that depends.  I expect it to be not much below 10° considering
the outer temperatures - that's no temperature which would stop me
from enjoing a (short) bath...

Kind regards

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Cheese party

2008-07-10 Thread Maximiliano Curia
Hola Christian Perrier!

El 08/07/2008 a las 20:34 escribiste:
> Well, we're now 1 month ahead from DebConf and its most important
> event apart from the DPL talk: the Cheese&Wine party.

Please take into account that the current regulations, are quite similar to the
limitations we had in Edinburgh. They don't allow importing non vacuum packed
foods, and only 2L of wine (if you come from a non neighbour country, only 1L
if you come from a neighbour country).

In fact the regulations aren't clear, so vacuum packed dairy products might be
allowed/disallowed depending on the good will of the customs officer.

As in many other countries, there is a button that gives you either green or
red light, but most of the time the officers will just pick "randomly" who to
check.

So, word of advise: Bring only a moderate quantity, and if the customs officer
complains, you might need to leave the cheese with him.

Luggage regulations (spanish only):
http://www.aduanaargentina.com/b_lr.php

Import and Export General Luggage Regime:
http://www.afip.gov.ar/english/touristInformation.asp

Custom declaration form (for travellers from a non neighbor country):
http://www.afip.gov.ar/Aduana/boletines/boletines/1999/Image138.gif
http://www.afip.gov.ar/Aduana/boletines/boletines/1999/Image139.gif

Custom declaration form (for travellers from a neighbor country):
http://www.afip.gov.ar/Aduana/boletines/boletines/1999/Image140.gif
http://www.afip.gov.ar/Aduana/boletines/boletines/1999/Image141.gif

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Regarding weather / beach / sea in Mar del Plata

2008-07-10 Thread Margarita Manterola
Hola Andreas Tille!

>> Regarding going to the sea, don't count on it.  Our sea is not bathed by
>> any warm current (like the Gulf Current for you guys in the North), so that
>> even in summer the sea is very cold.  So, if you don't want to go down with
>> hipothermia, I suggest you don't go further than just getting your feet
>> wet.
>
> Hmmm, that depends.  I expect it to be not much below 10° considering
> the outer temperatures - that's no temperature which would stop me
> from enjoing a (short) bath...

According to [1], it's 9 °C in August.  I wouldn't dare taking a bath in
it, but if you know what you are doing and still want it, I guess nobody
will stop you :).

[1]: 
http://www.weather2travel.com/climate-guides/index.php?destination=mar-del-plata


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[Debconf-discuss] DebConf 8 website: a call for help

2008-07-10 Thread Martín Ferrari
Follows a copy of what I just posted to the DC blog:


DebConf 8 is approaching and our website is clearly not what we'd like
it to be. It turns out that compiling all the useful stuff that
travellers might need is not easy, so we kindly ask you —dear
lazyweb—, to lend us a hand.

The most important thing we need, is to recognise missing data. When
you're a local, is difficult to know what foreigners might need to
know. So, even if you don't know the country, your different point of
view could help.

The second thing is to actually get articles written, some stuff ought
to be written by locals, but the majority can be researched from the
web (as we already did!). Proof-reading and checking translation is
also appreciated.

Send us your patches, comments and suggestions to the website queue at
the RT system, or contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't sweat over formatting:
plain text is OK, if you want to provide markup, please use very
spartan XHTML Strict.


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] driving toward south Argentina after DebConf8: how about roads?

2008-07-10 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Stefano Zacchiroli ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Hi all,
>   after DebConf8 I'll have some VAC in South Argentina, heading towards
> Tierra del Fuego. A possibility I'm considering is traveling a good deal
> of kilometers by (rent) car.
> 
> However, I've no idea about which kinds of road can I expect driving
> south. I've seen that there are a handful of highways: are they in good
> shape? which average speed can I assume to travel on them? What about
> the other, non-highways, roads?


This is a trip I considered to do with my family before or after
Debconf.

We finally gave up for two reasons:
- price.. A 5-adults trip like this is fairly expensive. That argument
does maybe not apply to you. We were not considering driving down
there because of the distances and the road status and the price of
flights were really dissuasive when added to the price of
Europe-Argentina flights


- winter. This is winter and Patagonia and Tierra del Fuego is
probably faily hard to travel in. As others pointed, it may involve
going through Chile, crossing region where winds can be the strongest
ones in the world. In winter, I imagine this not to be something
really enjoyable.

So, we decided we would come back in the future, probably at times
where such traval will involve only two people (aka e and my wife) and
in summer..:-)

My personal opinion is that if you plan some tourist trip in ARG
around Debconf, good places to go could be the North-West part if you
enjoy mountains and the like. That could include a hook in North Chile
as well, around Atacama, to see the best skies in the world. At least,
this is what *I* would do..:-). Of course, classical stuff like Iguazu
region is also an option...

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Regarding weather / beach / sea in Mar del Plata

2008-07-10 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Andreas Tille ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> Hmmm, that depends.  I expect it to be not much below 10° considering
> the outer temperatures - that's no temperature which would stop me
> from enjoing a (short) bath...

Folks reading this, please notice that the only access of Germany to
the sea is the North Sea.

Please also consider that Andreas is a "grandfather" raised in former
Eastern Germany, which only access to the sea is the *Baltic Sea*.

That might put things in perspective.

(/me waves to Andreas...)

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