Re: Stus-List C$C 32

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Bob -

Check with your local phrf organization or sail maker.  This is the formula I 
was given for spin sail area in sqft.  See if it makes sense for you.

 


PHRF Rule

((SLU+SLE) x (4*SMG + SF))/12

 

Slu = spin luff

Sle = spin leach

Smg = spin mid-girth

Sf = spin foot

 

 

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via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 4:44 AM
To: sam.c.sal...@gmail.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List C$C 32

 

My symmetrical chute was made specifically for racing by Al Declercq in Metro 
Detroit so it would be the maximum legal size.  My sail certificate is online 
below with the dimensions.  Perhaps someone else knows the formula to calculate 
square footage?

 

http://desiresailing.org/Misc/SailCertificateSymChute1998CnC32.pdf

 

There is no C&C 32-II.  The  C&C 32 (made 1979 to 1984) is actually 31.5 LOA.  
The C&C99 is 32.5 feet and came out around 2000.  The only similarity is that 
they are within .5 feet of 32 feet.

 

Michael Clow

Desire  , C&C 32, Lake St. Clair

 

 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 11:46 PM
To: teq...@comcast.net; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List C$C 32

 

FX Sails thinks the 32 is 754 sq ft / 32 mk ll is 821 sq ft.

(That’s for symmetrical)

 

sam :-)

 

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Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎April‎ ‎30‎, ‎2014 ‎7‎:‎09‎ ‎PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

 

Can Any one tell me the sail area of a Spinnaker for a C&C 32, or the fomula to 
get the area? Thanks Bob

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Stus-List PHRF ratings

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

I’m going to insert a comment here on keeping perspective with PHRF ratings.  I 
recently had a conversation with an individual affiliated with our local 
ratings and he commented that 3 secs equates to approximately 1 boat length for 
every mile raced.  So as nice as it is to get 3 or 6 secs, IMHO it’s really not 
a big deal.  I can blow a tack and lose a boat length, multiply that by how 
many tacks are made in a mile and, well, it points out I should spend time on 
boat handling and less worrying about ratings.  

 

Obviously know the rules and use what’s made available to you, but keep in mind 
where real gains are made.

 

Hope that helps.

 

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via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 4:48 PM
To: Gary Nylander; CnClist
Subject: Re: Stus-List Technical sail discussion

 

Gary,

You are right about the above deck furler.  I'm in the Gulf Yachting 
Association (gya.org) Here's the rule:

"The PHRF committee may allow +6 seconds per mile in rating for a roller 
furling headsail and +12 seconds for an optional IN-MAST roller furling 
mainsail. Boats must have a SA/DSPL less than 20.01 and an inboard or saildrive 
(non-retractable) engine to be eligible for credit(s). The attached form must 
be submitted to receive this credit.

1. Uses a working roller furling headsail attached to an above deck mounted 
roller furling system. Roller furling headsails must be tacked above the drum 
and may be interchangeable with other working roller furling headsails while 
racing. Possible +6 seconds!

2. Uses an optional working Roller Furling in-mast mainsail, which may have no 
more than 5 vertical battens and that the roach of the sail does not extend 
past the backstay (or a line from the top of the mast to the deck edge of the 
transom if a back stay is not standard on the boat) and is furled vertically by 
rolling rather than flaking. Possible +12 seconds!

3. For the Roller Furling Headsail credit the boat must have a sail 
area/displacement of less than 20.01. This value (SA/DSPL) is based on the 
following formula: SA/DSPL = SA / (DSPL/64)^2/3.

Sail area and displacement values will be based on the standard dimensions 
published for the boat class by US Sailing (http://offshore.ussailing.org/phrf) 
“Critical dimensions” using 100% of the foretriangle and 100% mainsail and 
mizzen sail area.

4. Each boat has to apply for this credit individually, and the committee 
reserves the right to refuse the credit(s) to boats that they deem to be more 
racing than cruising. (Refer to GYA-PHRF.com for a copy of the form)

5. Will notify the PHRF Committee of any changes made to the above items."

Touche's SA/DSPL is 20.0

 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

 

On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I don't know about your PHRF area, but Chesapeake requires that the furler drum 
is above deck AND you have the UV patch (heavy cloth) on both the foot and 
leach of the sail. Then you get the six seconds.

Gary
- Original Message - From: "Martin DeYoung via CnC-List" 

To: "Dennis C." ; 
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 1:32 PM


Subject: Re: Stus-List Technical sail discussion



Calypso's headsails were also cut for a furler with the higher foot, now about 
18" off the deck.

We still get a significant "speed bubble" in the main at the mid to upper wind 
range for the light and heavy #1s.  The bubble shows up 6' to 25' (off the 
deck) on the mainsail.

>From my miss-spent youth crewing with serious race programs I expect there to 
>be an advantage to the deck sweeper type headsails, more so for the early IOR 
>type sail plans with big fore triangles and smaller mainsails. The engineers 
>may reference something about an end plate effect.

Over the last 10 years of club racing Calypso with roller furling headsails we 
see a significant decrease in performance at the low end of the wind range, 
especially in acceleration.  Side by side with another C&C 43 that had newer, 
non-furling headsails Calypso was left in the dust as the wind built from calm 
to 5 knots.  Once the TWS was above 7 knots the speed difference was much less 
but the newer sails still pointed higher.

After reading about your +6 per mile for the roller furler I need to take a 
close look at the PHRF-NW book and re-file Calypso's data.  We are still using 
the old IMS/IOR type measurements.

Martin
Calypso
1971 C&C 43
Seattle

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 5:51 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Technical sail discussion

I recently re-filed my PHRF certificate to get +6 seconds for a roller furler.  
Subsequently, I just had the luff my Mylar/Kevlar 155 cut down to fit on the 
furler.  My sail maker cut a bunch off the foot.

I was chatting about losing the sail area with one of the really good sai

Stus-List 2012 Annapolis Bermuda Race C&C 37

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

I scanned through the photos of 2012 Annapolis-Bermuda race and found a 37 
named “Impromptu” out of Galesville, MD.   Anyone know it?

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson 
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:46 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Annapolis Bermuda Race

 

All,

 

One week to the gun!  I want to thank all of you in advance for your support, 
advice, patience, equipment and even sails that have made it possible for me to 
enter the race.  

 

There will be fellow C&C ers on the boat both ways!

 

Our class includes Steve Sharkey's C&C 37 as well as a mini transat 21 footer 
and a 100 foot schooner. Should make the starting line interesting.  You can 
track us at www.bermudaoceanrace.com.  They are using Spots, not Yellowbrick.  

 

Finally, as a follow up to an earlier post, I ran out of time to make a fancy 
enclosure for the frig compressor.  Some corrugated plastic board from Home 
Depot and duct tape will suffice for now.  If nothing else, it will serve as a 
template for a more permanent solution.


 

-- 
Joel 

The Office

Annapolis
301 541 8551 

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Re: Stus-List Repositioning Mast

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Steve - I haven’t done this on a boat as big as yours, but in the past we have 
taken a line from the butt of the mast forward to a snatch block and then back 
to a winch and grind it forward.  Not really as hard as it sounds.   Obviously 
get the rig loose first, etc.Hope that helps.

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan 
Plavsa via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 2:18 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Repositioning Mast

 

Hi All,

 

I made a stupid newbie mistake when we stepped the mast. In my defence it was a 
busy, windy, choppy day and we had to hire a crane to come to the club to step 
everyone's mast .. and I helped everyone, so when it came time to do my boat I 
was kind of on autopilot. We stepped 29 masts that day.

 

So I failed to remember that there are wedges fore and aft at the mast base 
that keep the mast centered in the step. My girlfriend says to me the other day 
while pointing at a pair of wedges in the boat .. did you forget to put the 
wedges in the partner? Um, no I did not. Then I realized my mistake and took a 
look at the mast base ... the mast is seated all the way aft. I guess this 
would cause some forward rake? I'm all ears in regards to how this might affect 
the rig, sail shape, etc? 

 

In any case, I'de like to center the thing and put the wedges where they are 
supposed to go. I know I can loosen the tension on the rig and I've used 
halyards in place of the forestay and shrouds on previous occasions to fix this 
or that but even with the rig tension way down is the weight of the mast itself 
going to prevent me from sliding it forward about 1.5 inches? What would be the 
correct order to loosen the rig? Backstay, lowers, uppers? I'de rather not futz 
with the forestay if I can help it but I did just disconnect it about a week 
ago to fix a kink in the furler so I'm not shy to do it again.

 

Any help/recommendations are much appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Steve

Suhana, C&C 32

Toronto

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Stus-List babystay tie rods

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

On my 37, the babystay has two tie rods going from the deck to the hull.   On 
this boat these run straight down on either side of the door to the head.

 

There are turnbuckles at the base of the rod by the hull to adjust the tension. 
 In my case, one is significantly looser than the other.   

 

Does anyone on the list have experience adjusting these?  Or how to monitor if 
they are too tight or too loose?

 

Thanks,

 

 

 

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Re: Stus-List diesel fuel line with banjo fitting

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Nate – check with the guys at Barker’s.  They stock some stuff, or may have 
better connections on ordering.  No guarantee on best pricing though.  
http://barkers-island-marina.com/ 

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Nate 
Flesness via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 12:12 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List diesel fuel line with banjo fitting

 

I need a new short 2QM15 diesel fuel line (part 17 on their diagram attached) 
with a banjo fitting on one end (apparently ripped the hose while pulling the 
engine last year). These have a press-fit brass female connection. My regional 
Yanmar supplier (Toad, formerly Torresen) has these backordered...

 

Anyone have ideas or experience?

 

Thanks

 

Nate

Sarah Jean"

1980 30-1

Siskiwit Bay Marina

Lake Superior

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Re: Stus-List C&C 38mkIII

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Hey Fred - glad you're getting in the water -  Just in time of Race Week.
FYI we have a new Jib and Main class this year with a great turn out
already.   You'd do really well.

 

Sign up here:  http://wyc.org/ais/RaceWeek.aspx 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick
G Street via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 11:39 AM
To: Jerome Tauber; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 38mkIII

 

How about considering a Landfall 38?  Pretty much the same hull, but only
draws 4'-11" on a longer keel.  Mine points like a witch, too.   :^)


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

 

FINALLY getting launched tomorrow.   :^)

 

 

On Jun 19, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List
 wrote:





I've owned a C&C 24 and 29mkII and now own a 27mkV.  A friend and I are
considering partnering on a 38mkIII.  The 7.5 foot draft may be good in the
Mariana Trench but not in my harbor. (3 mile Harbor ).   Has anyone had any
experience with the shoal keel version which I think gives the boat a. 6'4"
draft ( still problematic).  How does it point.  How many points does it
gain in PHRF.   Any other comments appreciated.  Jerry

 

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Re: Stus-List Jib sheet bowlines hang up on baby stay

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Pete - 

You haven't had issues with the lazy sheet coming loose?

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of kelly
petew via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 9:46 AM
To: cnc-list
Subject: Re: Stus-List Jib sheet bowlines hang up on baby stay

 

I've had the same problem.  I started using a "cow hitch" vs. two bowlines
and it's less likely to get jammed.
My headsail is a 140.
 
Hope this helps.
 
Pete W.
 
Siren Song
'91 C&C30-2
Deltaville, VA
 

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> 4. Re: Boatyard repair issues (Chuck S)
> 5. Re: C&C 32 Genoa sheets (Frank)
> 6. Re: C&C 32 Genoa sheets (John Russo)
> 7. Re: C&C 32 Genoa sheets (Dennis C.)
> 8. Re: What happened 15th 16th June (Chris Price)
> 9. Jib sheet bowlines hang up on baby stay (Kevin Driscoll)
> 10. Boat for sale. . (D Harben)
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> Thanks for the replies guys. I guess I'm not crazy then! If the owners
> themselves don't know the difference I don't feel so bad. Also, it means
> the older boats are worth considering. I'm also reading mixed reports of
> cored vs non-cored hulls. Anyone care to comment on that one?? Mostly I
> read that they are cored all the way down.
> 
> Thanks,
> Steve
> Suhana, C&C 32
> Toronto
> 
> 
> 

> 
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> I find that my jib sheet bowlines get hung up on my stay quite a bit,
> especially with my 130 on. Any suggestions?
> 
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Stus-List tight reaching

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

I recently had a mid-distance race in which a majority of the race was tight
reaching in flat water, 10-15 breeze.   We had our heavy #1 up.  A number of
boats (C&C39, C&C38, Sabre 36, Tarten Ten) worked up on us pretty well in
those conditions.   I obviously need to trim the sails differently and am
looking for suggestions.

 

We mostly eased the sheet and moved the car forward, but we did try barber
hauling.  We did not try bringing the clew right out to the toe rail.  

 

Any thoughts or suggestions is appreciated.

 

Thanks,

 

Pete

1984 C&C 37

 

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Stus-List block lubricant

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

We just finished a week long distance race series and during the race I
noticed that the blocks that we lube with T-9 become pretty gunked up.  We
cleaned with a solvent, rinsed with soapy water and fresh water, then
re-applied.   Same result after a day or two.  Anyone have similar
experience?   Does anyone have another product suggestion?  Anyone use
Mclube One Drop?

Thanks,
Pete
37
Lake Superior


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Stus-List garmin announcement

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

FYI from a recent Garmin press release…

 

  2015 
NMEA Product Award logo
Last week we received the honor of being the most recognized company in the 
marine electronics field by the National Marine Electronics Association (NMEA) 
at the prestigious 2015 NMEA Convention in Baltimore, Md. Garmin was named 
Manufacturer of the Year and received awards in four product categories: 
autopilot, multi-function display (MFD), mobile application—aid to navigation, 
and mobile application—end user utility.

For the third year in a row, we received an award in the autopilot category for 
its GHP Reactor Hydraulic Autopilot with SmartPump. The GHP Reactor was our 
first recreational autopilot system to utilize AHRS technology and boasts the 
usability, installation flexibility, and many other features that prove to be 
valuable for any vessel.

We also took home top honors in the MFD category. The accolades went to the 
GPSMAP 7616, a 16-inch multi-touch widescreen chartplotter designed for 
mariners who demand high performance, ease of operation and feature 
integration. The GPSMAP 7616 comes preloaded with both BlueChart g2 coastal and 
LakeVü HD inland maps, and is fully network compatible for support of radar, 
autopilot, instruments, multiple screens, sensors, remote sonar modules, 
digital switching, thermal cameras, and more.

In today’s connected world, smartphone applications are essential tools for 
mariners. At this year’s awards, new marine app categories were added and both 
apps offered from Garmin won their respective categories. Garmin BlueChart 
Mobile, a route planning application with streaming weather capabilities, was 
named the best mobile application aid to navigation. And earning the top spot 
in the mobile application for end user utility was Garmin Helm, an application 
that allows mariners to view and control their chartplotter from a smartphone 
or tablet.

Our portfolio includes some of the industry’s most sophisticated chartplotters 
and touchscreen multifunction displays, sonar technology, high-definition 
radar, autopilots, high-resolution mapping, sailing instrumentation and other 
products and services that are known for innovation, reliability and 
ease-of-use.

 

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Re: Stus-List Photo album ads & other stuff

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Mark Janda is in Bayfield WI.  He has a C&C38 named Red Hawk located at Port 
Superior.

 

I know him well and will get him in contact with James and Rick.

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G 
Street via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2015 9:26 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Frederick G Street
Subject: Re: Stus-List Photo album ads & other stuff

 

Rick — is that Bayfield, Wisconsin, or Bayfield, Ontario?  I’m not familiar 
with Mark, but I can check around this weekend.

 

Haulout tomorrow…   :^(


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

 

On Oct 8, 2015, at 9:10 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List  
wrote:

 

Stu, I’d appreciate contacting Mark Janda as well. James’ message prompted me 
to look at the Photo Album ads for the first time in a while, and I see a 
couple of items for my 38 that I could probably use. I tore up my RF 140 a 
couple of weeks ago, and I see that he has two for sale. Plus I see a propane 
locker, which it what I need to make the switch from the alcohol stove on my 
boat to propane.

 

Fred, the ads say he is parting out a 38 in the Bayfield area. Any chance you 
know him and can get him to contact James and me?

 

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Re: Stus-List Photo album ads & other stuff

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Petar - 

I gave Mark your contact info also.   You should hear from him directly.

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Petar
Horvatic via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2015 9:27 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Petar Horvatic
Subject: Re: Stus-List Photo album ads & other stuff

 

I'm sort of in a same boat.  I can't log into photoalbum to contact Mark
Janda.  Retrieve password or register gives me a PHP error.  I would be
interested in  Garhauer solid vang and fittings.  

 

 

Petar Horvatic

Sundowner

76 C&C 38MkII

Newport, RI

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Brass via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2015 10:11 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Rick Brass
Subject: Stus-List Photo album ads & other stuff

 

Stu, I'd appreciate contacting Mark Janda as well. James' message prompted
me to look at the Photo Album ads for the first time in a while, and I see a
couple of items for my 38 that I could probably use. I tore up my RF 140 a
couple of weeks ago, and I see that he has two for sale. Plus I see a
propane locker, which it what I need to make the switch from the alcohol
stove on my boat to propane.

 

Fred, the ads say he is parting out a 38 in the Bayfield area. Any chance
you know him and can get him to contact James and me?

 

BTW, Stu: My password to the Photo Album site got lost in a hard drive crash
some months ago. When I tried the link for a lost password on the login
screen for the classifieds this morning, I got an error message. Is that
part of the problem you are addressing?

 

And BTW, everyone: A friend with a 38 Landfall wants to convert the CNG
installation installed by the PO to LP. I seem to recall that some time ago
one of the listers had an LP tank enclosure designed for installation under
the seat of a 38LF (which would not fit the space available in my 38-2). If
you are still on the list and have the enclosure, let me know and my friend
will be in touch.

 

And BTW, while I'm thinking of it: While converting to LP is on the project
list (I already have the stove), I am still using the 40 year old Galley
Maid pressurized alcohol stove. One of the burners developed a pinhole leak,
and when I took the burner to a local shop to have the leaking tube brazed,
they managed to close off the tube completely. Can anyone point me to a
source for burners and parts for these old stoves? Or has anyone got a
Galley Maid alcohol stove out in the garage that they would like to sell? 

 

 

Rick Brass

Imzadi  C&C 38 mk 2

la Belle Aurore C&C 25 mk1

Washington, NC

 

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Re: Stus-List Autopilot Recommendations

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Cruising World  has a article summarizing different autopilot manufacturers in 
the Oct issue.  Not a lot of detail, but another source of input.

 

I installed Raymarine SPX-30 in ’08 and it died on me this summer.  I’ll 
replace with Garmin over the winter.   Next summer I’ll be able to give a more 
thorough review of difference, but the Shadow Drive function in Garmin is very 
clever.

 

#friendsdon’tletfriendsbuyraymarine

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
To: C&C List 
Cc: Edd Schillay 
Sent: Thu, Oct 8, 2015 5:56 pm
Subject: Stus-List Autopilot Recommendations

Listers, 

 

My wife is considering buying me an autopilot system for my 50th (YIKES!) 
birthday next year to replace our failing Robertson unit. She saw the video 
from the 2015 Northeast Rendezvous of Nader sitting in his cockpit eating lunch 
while the boat drove itself to Clinton and said “Oh you gotta have that!” 

 

The Octopus hydraulic drive is already installed and I’m somewhat partial to 
the Raymarine EV-200 system (and Fred Street has pretty good pricing), but 
wanted to see if anyone else has recommendations on units I should look at. 

 


All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Starship Enterprise

C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

City Island, NY 

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log  

 











 





 

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Re: Stus-List Autopilot Recommendations

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Rich –

The SPX-30.  Ray tech support has it - Not repairable, but is replaceable.   
It’s not worth going into detail on dealing with tech support to get to this 
conclusion, but it wasn’t great.  However, congratulations on your whack of 
systems with few problems.

 

I don’t have any hydraulics – AP ram or other, so it doesn’t apply to me and I 
didn’t intend to infer it would work with all systems, if that’s your point.  
Because it doesn’t apply doesn’t mean it should be discounted either.  It is 
clever engineering.  

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Knowles Rich 
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 9:58 AM
To: cnc-list Cnc-List
Cc: Knowles Rich
Subject: Re: Stus-List Autopilot Recommendations

 

Pete:

 

Out of curiosity, what “died” in your Raymarine system? I have owned and 
installed a whack of these systems and have had very few problems over the 
years. 

 

Also, unless I’m suffering more than usual today, the Garmin Shadow Drive will 
only work when installed in the line from a helm pump in a fully hydraulic 
steering system. It will not work on a cable driven system such as that found 
in most C&C sail boats. Nice idea, but….

 

Rich Knowles

Nanaimo, BC
Boatless!





 

On Oct 9, 2015, at 06:56, Pete Shelquist via CnC-List  
wrote:

 

Cruising World  has a article summarizing different autopilot manufacturers in 
the Oct issue.  Not a lot of detail, but another source of input.

 

I installed Raymarine SPX-30 in ’08 and it died on me this summer.  I’ll 
replace with Garmin over the winter.   Next summer I’ll be able to give a more 
thorough review of difference, but the Shadow Drive function in Garmin is very 
clever.

 

#friendsdon’tletfriendsbuyraymarine

 

 

 

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Subject: Stus-List Autopilot Recommendations

Listers, 

 

My wife is considering buying me an autopilot system for my 50th (YIKES!) 
birthday next year to replace our failing Robertson unit. She saw the video 
from the 2015 Northeast Rendezvous of Nader sitting in his cockpit eating lunch 
while the boat drove itself to Clinton and said “Oh you gotta have that!” 

 

The Octopus hydraulic drive is already installed and I’m somewhat partial to 
the Raymarine EV-200 system (and Fred Street has pretty good pricing), but 
wanted to see if anyone else has recommendations on units I should look at. 

 


All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Starship Enterprise

C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

City Island, NY 

 <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log

 











 






 

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Re: Stus-List Which type of bottom paint do I have?

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Sounds like VC Tar.  I don't believe they still make it, but it was applied
as an undercoat to VC17...if I recall correctly.


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Subject: Stus-List Which type of bottom paint do I have?

Hi all - had to remove some paint for repairs and realize that he bottom
will need at least a touch up.
Paint smells a Bit like burnt rubber when the grinder hits it, and it smears
rather than stripping off in dust or chips.  Clearly a soft film, black in
Color.  
No resistance to acetone at all.  Dissolves in the fumes I think. 
 Any idea what this stuff is?   Thanks.  

Dave.  

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Re: Stus-List outboard size

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With the small and light mindset, does anyone have input on the small electric 
Torqeedos? They are a spendy.  

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, 
Joe via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 1:43 PM
To: 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com'
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Subject: Re: Stus-List outboard size

 

IMHO there are two ways to go with an outboard:

Go big or go tiny.

I have a 15 HP 2 stroke Evinrude I really like. We can do 18-20 knots with 3-4 
people in the dinghy and we can two a tube with a kid or two at planning speeds.

If I were to have a dinghy that needed the engine removed to tow or put away, I 
would get the lightest engine I could find. You can scavenge Craigslist and 
sooner or later find a 2-3 HP two stroke that might weight 20-30 pounds. If you 
can’t plane anyway, no use wasting gas and engine weight with being close to 
planning vs. really not planning. I had a 2.5 HP Honda years ago that did fine 
for getting around at low speeds.

Joe

Coquina

C&C 35 MK I

Avon 340 RIB 

 

BTW – to the lister that was thinking about a 9.9 HP for the Bahamas. Don’t do 
it. I would really be looking for a 15 HP two-stroke instead. Same weight – or 
less – and vastly more speed with a load or in rough weather.

IMHO and YMMV

 

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Nylander via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 1:28 PM
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Cc: Gary Nylander
Subject: Re: Stus-List outboard size

 

The J-80 I race on uses a Honda 2hp 4 stroke. Moves along quite nicely, but 
vibrates. The J-24 has a Tohatsu 3 hp two stroke and also moves along nicely. I 
would think anything 2 hp or more would move your inflatable well, just don't 
expect to plane.

 

Gary

- Original Message - 

From: Dennis C. via CnC-List   

To: CnClist   

Cc: Dennis C.   

Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 12:46 PM

Subject: Re: Stus-List outboard size

 

One night we had rowed our inflatable dinghy to a neighboring boat for dinner.  
During dinner the wind came up.  Our boat owner friend towed us back to our 
boat with his dinghy with 2.5 hp Tohatsu.  It was a little bit of a struggle 
but the little Tohatsu did the job.

I have a used 80's Evinrude 7.5 that will plane my 9'4" dinghy.  However, if I 
was buying a new one, I'd definitely go much smaller.  I think a 2.2-2.5 hp 
would be fine.

The last 3-4 years I haven't even put the OB on the dink, preferring instead to 
row and avoid the hassle of installing/removing the heavy OB.

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

 

On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Michael Jones via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Ls and Gs

Can you help me? I have recently bought an 8ft inflatable as tender and am 
looking at second hand outboard options. Can you advise me of adequate size 
required? Specifically I have seen a 2,2 hp advertised. Will that be enough to 
potter to the dock and back? The safety sticker on the boat says up to 5hp but 
that seeems a bit much and heavy.

Thanks and regards

Mike Jones

Seanachai, 1981 C&C 34

Victoria


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Re: Stus-List Selden sprit kit install

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Good write up Dennis – 

I installed one and sailed with it in the 2014 season.  I would add a couple 
items to your review;

1.   Watch the diameter of sprit.   If one has a roller furler, you’ll need 
clearance between it and the deck

2.   In a blow, there is a lot of lift on the front deck fitting.  Careful 
review of the deck should be done in case reinforcement is needed.  I noticed 
weakening in the area even with the addition of a bobstay.

 

Thanks,

 

 

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via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 7:25 PM
To: CnClist
Cc: Dennis C.
Subject: Stus-List Selden sprit kit install

 

Installed a Selden sprit kit on a Peterson 37 today.  Interesting piece of 
equipment.  Simple design but effective.

Essentially a big ring that mounts on the bow, a sprit pole that slides in/out 
through the ring and a couple folding padeyes that the rear fiiting clips onto 
in the retracted or extended position.  The tack line passes through the pole 
exiting through each of the end fittings.  The base of the ring is offset so 
you can mount the ring closer to center line while the pole extends to one side 
of the forestay.  We had to make a StarBoard base to lift the ring a bit so the 
sprit pole would clear a tack fitting.  Simple install.  took about 3 hours.

Couple things to watch out for.  First, the kits are offered in several 
diameters.  As one might expect, the larger diameter kits have longer allowed 
extension beyond the ring for bigger boats.  Be sure to order one large enough 
to get the extension you need.  Second, check with your local handicap 
organization about penalties and exactly how and where to measure the extended 
dimension.  Third, if your headsail is a deck sweeper and is tacked low to the 
deck and the foot is low to the deck, you may have to have the tack cut a bit 
to go over the sprit (about 4 inches off the deck on one side of the forestay). 

The kit comes with 2 folding padeyes.  However, you can install more at 
different distances to allow the sprit to extend different distances from the 
bow or measure point.

The sprit can be easily removed and stowed below.  This is good for boats with 
an anchor locker since the lid to the locker would be pinned under the sprit.

 

Installation was straightforward once you figure out the different 
measurements.  

We installed this one so it retracted clear of the head sail tack point.  That 
way, the head sail tack snap shackle didn't rub on the sprit when going upwind.

I have one picture of the finished install if anyone is interested.

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Stus-List converting TOD results to TOT

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

I’m trying to save myself some time and not reinvent the wheel:  Does anyone 
have a spreadsheet for converting race results from TOD to TOT?

 

>From the results I have PHRF rating and Elapsed Time in D:HH:MM:SS format.  

 

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Re: Stus-List Fwd: Replacing Windows

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Gary – 

I took out one of my Plexus installed windows a couple weeks ago using a dremel 
oscillating tool (analogous to Fein multi tool).  One has to be careful, but it 
worked surprisingly well.  It’s plexus, so there will be repair work needed to 
the gelcoat.  I’m fortunately done will all that work and will install a new 
lens in a couple weeks if the weather holds.  

 

Holler if you have questions.

Pete

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Martin 
DeYoung via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 1:10 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Martin DeYoung
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: Replacing Windows

 

Gary,

 

Do you have a Fein multitool or similar oscillating power tool?

 

On Calypso I have been very pleased with the efficiency of my Fein multi tool 
and the carbide bits.  There is a triangle shaped bit that has course carbide 
and a semi-circle that has a finer carbide grit.  Both bit stand up to hard use 
on fiberglass and epoxy.  If I was faced with removing hard adhesive from a 
tight space I would use the triangle bit for its narrow contact area and ease 
of position control.

 

Martin DeYoung

Calypso

1971 C&C 43

Seattle


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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary Russell 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 10:55 AM
To: C&C List
Cc: Gary Russell
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: Replacing Windows

 

Hi Doug,

 While I am quite confident your tool will work well with sealants, I don't 
see how it will work with Plexus which is harder than the acrylic it attaches.  
If I am wrong please let me know, because I am killing myself trying to remove 
the Plexus.

 

Gary

S/V High Maintenance

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Re: Stus-List Tide prediction app for my IPad? with great lakes twist

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Fred – 

Does it provide currents for the Great Lakes?

 

FYI - At times I encountered up to 1 knt during the Trans.  It would be nice to 
have a tool to help predict that.

 

Thanks,

 

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Street via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 9:22 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Frederick G Street
Subject: Re: Stus-List Tide prediction app for my IPad?

 

Yup, I’ver got the Nobeltec TZ for iPad; it’s got decent currents on it.

 

— Fred


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

 

[Pete Shelquist]  

 

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Re: Stus-List Bonded Windows (continued)

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Just an observation; The VHB tape seems like a more simple installation.  
However, I’m curious if Plexus is evil because it’s too hard and tenacious, yet 
the VHB joined parts won’t come apart, in 5-10 yrs when redoing windows again 
it sounds like we’ll be calling VHB evil.  

 

I don’t have a better solution, and question if there’s really a good one out 
there.  It sounds like we need to keep templates of the lenses and deal with 
cutting and filling around the frame when the connection fails.

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary Russell 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 7:47 PM
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Cc: Gary Russell
Subject: Stus-List Bonded Windows (continued)

 

For those who were following my post on bonded windows on High Maintenance, I 
have an update and many thoughts on the project enumerated below.  I have 
successfully installed two windows on the starboard side and replaced the 
acrylic on all the hatches and can say that the project has been very 
successful.  I have terminated my project at this point as the temperatures are 
now too low for the VHB tape which requires a temperature of greater than 60 
degrees F for application.  Here are my observations:

 

#1.  Plexus is evil stuff and should not be allowed on a boat.  It is too hard 
and tenacious a bond.  Because fiberglass and acrylic have such a different 
expansion coefficient, fracture of the acrylic is assured.  Removing the stuff 
is impossible without destroying the gel coat underneath.  I tried a sharp 
blade between the fiberglass and the acrylic and all I managed to do was rip up 
the gel coat.

 

#2.  Before removing the windows, make a template out of some thin plywood (or 
other material) because the window will (no doubt) come out in pieces and you 
will have nothing as a reference for making the new windows.

 

#3.  I finally was successful removing the acrylic with a 5/8” router bit set 
to a depth equal to the thickness of the acrylic plus the thickness of the 
Plexus.  I actually used a Roto-Zip instead of a router as it had a smaller 
footprint and was easier to handle.  I free-handed the router to cut through 
the acrylic and into the Plexus.  It’s risky but effective.   Don’t cut all the 
way around the perimeter, but leave tabs to support the window.  Otherwise, the 
window will sink under the weight of the router and you will cut into the gel 
coat.  You can break out the tabs later.

 

#4.  Once the windows were out, I used West System epoxy thickened with low 
density filler to repair any damage to the gel coat.  Fortunately, all my gel 
coat damage was limited to the area under the windows.  Once the windows are 
out and the damage is repaired, the rest is fun and easy. 

 

#5.   I cut the new window out of 3/8” Plexiglas using a pattern router bit 
(sometimes called a Formica trimmer).  I used masking tape folded in half 
lengthwise to stick the new Plexiglas to the old window (or template).  I ran 
the tape at right angles to insure that they wouldn’t slide in either direction 
with respect to each other.  It does a very nice job and is quite easy.  I then 
used a 1/8” round off router bit on the outside edge of the new window for 
cosmetic reasons and a 45 degree chamfer bit on the inside edge to make room 
for the Dow Corning 795 silicone.

 

#6.  I installed the 3M VHB 4991 tape on the coach roof and masked around where 
I wanted the window to go.  This would help me locate the window and provide 
the masking for the Dow Corning 795 silicone to follow.  I also masked the edge 
of the new window for the same reason.

 

#7.  Now cones the tricky part.  You only get one shot with the VHB tape, 
because once it is down, it is not coming up.  I tried adhering two small 
pieces of acrylic to each other with about two square inches of VHB tape, and I 
can assure you, you won’t pull them apart.  VHB is amazing stuff.  As a guide, 
I mounted two small wooden blocks to the masking take below the window with a 
small piece of VHB tape.  By attaching it to the masking tape, I was sure I 
could get it back off.  Actually, VHB doesn’t stick very well to masking tape 
anyway.  I also stuck a small wooden block to the masking tape at one end of 
the window as well.  This allowed me to set the window on the two bottom block 
and then slide it over to the end block before pushing the window into place.  
By all means, make several trial runs with the film still on the VHB tape 
before removing the film.  Once the film is off you are committed.  I pushed 
the window in place and it looked perfect.  Then it is simply a matter of 
squirting the Dow Corning stuff into the gap and smoothing it out with a 
finger.  As soon as the silicon is smoothed out, you can remove the masking 
tape and pour yourself a stiff one, while you admire the fine job you have done.

 

#8.  There was concern expressed that the VHB tape would be visible through the 
window, and it was sugges

Re: Stus-List Wabasto furness

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Fred – 

Try it, you’re only out $75 if it doesn’t work.  Then with your experience, 
I’ll be that much smarter when replacing mine.

 

Don’t worry about the technology – fuel pumps are a lot different than a Li 
battery.

 

 

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via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 10:51 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Fred Hazzard
Subject: Stus-List Wabasto furness

 

I need to replace the dosing pump on my Wabasto airtop 3500/ 5000 furness.   I 
can buy a Wasbasto replacement for about $200 or a Chinese one for about $75 on 
ebay. I am looking for listers feelings about using the knock off  pump .

 

 

Fred Hazzard

S/V Fury

C&C 44

Portland, Or

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Re: Stus-List Lines led forward

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I agree with you Andy.  I cruise/race both solo and with crew and have kept
the Main, jib and spin halyards at the mast.  I need to be forward to hook
everything up anyway and this configuration saves time/energy.

I tried single line reefing and it was a pain in the butt for the reason you
stated.  I kept reefing at the mast too.  

Vang, mainsheet, traveler, asym tackline, spin and jib sheets are in
cockpit.

One can crack off if it is too lumpy to easily move around up front, then
get back on course once everything is squared away.



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Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 7:35 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Andrew Burton
Subject: Stus-List Lines led forward

I wonder, am I alone in the group leading lines forward? The only lines I'm
going to have coming aft to the cabin top will be the mainsheet and the
traveler lines...and I'm thinking of eliminating the traveler all together.
I just don't want all that extra spaghetti in the cockpit. Bulkheads are for
leaning against on my cruising boat! 
I hate single line reeling; there's just too much friction in the system for
boats over 30' so I'm going to be at the mast when I reef, anyway. And I
want to be there to see how the sail comes down or clear any fouls as it
goes up, so I like being forward to hoist and drop the halyard.
This whole business of leading everything aft started with singlehanded race
boats and for good reason, given how they sail. But my autopilot--or
wife--keeps the boat head-to-wind just fine as I hoist.
So what's the opposite thinking from the assembled brain trust here?
Hope everyone has a very merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous New Year
filled with lots of wonderful days sailing.

Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine
Newport, RI

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI 
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Re: Stus-List New beer can Genoa

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Jon 
If you are looking for a very affordable, ok shape North Dacron 155 for
straight up 37, look no further.  I can help you out.  

#6 luff tape.  No UV cover.  Low shipping charges from Minneapolis to
Muskegon.


I can't help you if you have your heart set on new, crisp, high performance
model.



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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Jon Tasker
Subject: Stus-List New beer can Genoa

I need an affordable 155% Genoa for my 37 for Wednesday nights. North wants
$5000, Ullman wants $3140. At age 75, my wife the questions the necessity.
Anyone got any suggestions.
Jon Tasker 
C&C 37
Muskegon MI

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Stus-List boat shows

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Disturbing trend in shows.  I looked at the vender list for the Chicago 
strictly sail –now mostly RVs and powerboats.  

 

 

 

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Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 12:25 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Jerome Tauber
Subject: Re: Stus-List New York Boat Show -- January 9+10, 2016

 

No. Unless you're interested in electronics or engines.  Even the sail 
manufacturers don't attend any longer.  I sit every year at the USPS booth and 
each year there is less for sailors.   

 

 

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Re: Stus-List Lemon oil cause mildew?

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Josh – 

I’ve used lemon oil and have not had any mildew issues.  However, we do try to 
ventilate the boat well.  

 

 

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Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 8:07 PM
To: C&C List
Cc: Josh Muckley
Subject: Stus-List Lemon oil cause mildew?

 

Ok, so under the advise of this list I used lemon oil at the beginning of the 
2015 season.  I chalked up the mildew this last fall to the unusually high 
humidity and excessive rain.  That was until this evening when someone told me 
that they had heard that the lemon oil gave the mildew something to eat.

Before I re-oil with lemon oil, anybody have any thoughts on this mildew theory?

Thanks,

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD 

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Stus-List chicago boat show

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FYI - If anyone from the list will be at the Chicago boat show Saturday, a
small contingent of C&Cers from Bayfield, WI will be there. Let me know if
you're interested in putting a face to a name.
 
Pete



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Re: Stus-List Diesel Heaters and installation

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Steve – 

We’re on Lake Superior and have a little bit bigger space to heat with our 37.  
 I went with a Webasto 2000 last year.  There is only a single outlet in the 
space with the return air also ducted to the space – IE we don’t have fresh air 
makeup.  If I could figure out a good way to duct a vent in the vberth, that 
would be a good add.  I found we get around 10 degree rise per hour.  So 
getting the space from 30-60 will take 2-3 hrs.  It stays pretty comfortable - 
when my crew keep the hatch closed.  

 

Our use/size calculation per the website was in between two sizes and I went 
with a smaller one.  I really only need to take the edge off and dry out gear.  
Also, the less physical space available and lower power consumption were a 
factor.   These things are like diesel engines and like to be run, so having it 
going full bore when it is on is a good thing.  

 

Hope that helps.

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan 
Plavsa via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 2:43 PM
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Cc: Stevan Plavsa
Subject: Re: Stus-List Diesel Heaters and installation

 

Thanks Ken, after doing some more reading it sounds like their 26 foot 
recommendation for the D2 is for a power boat, which of course is more 
voluminous than my old C&C :)

 

>From searching this list it sounds like a single outlet into the cabin works 
>best. Curious if any other 32 owners have installed a forced air diesel and 
>how they routed the install. 

 

Cheers,

 

Steve

Suhana, C&C 32

Toronto

 

 

 

 

On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List  
wrote:

Our Espar D4 will bring the entire boat interior up to a comfortable 
temperature when the boat is out of the water on its cradle and the temperature 
outside is below freezing. This is a 39' 6" C&C 37 XL with a fairly roomy aft 
cabin.

 

I expect you can get away with a D2 on a 32.

 

Ken Heaton
S/V Salazar - Can 54955
C&C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia

 

http://www.racethecape.ca/the-race/entrants/salazar/

 

On 5 February 2016 at 15:41, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List  
wrote:

Hi All,

 

I'm starting to look at the Espar and Webasto units. Is anyone running one on a 
32? There's a good price jump from the Espar D2 to the D4. The literature 
indicates the D2 is good to 26 feet of boat, so it sounds like I need the D4 :(

 

My use is Georgian Bay, just want to extend the season, not living aboard in 
the winter. The boat is two hours away so there will be "maintenance" trips in 
the spring and fall which means sleeping aboard, it can get quite cold up 
there. 

 

I have to keep the temps warm for the boat parrot who'll be living aboard with 
us while we cruise. We're planning three weeks in August this year so it 
shouldn't be too much of an issue but it gets cold up there at night, even in 
August. I imagine a D2 would be fine for cold summer nights but I have ideas 
about maybe cruising the North Channel when the fall colours are out. I don't 
want to limit myself. At the same time, I don't want to spend money that could 
go elsewhere. 

 

The Newport Dickinson Diesel bulkhead heaters are pretty but I hear they don't 
make quite enough heat. I'm leaning this way for the cost, but don't want to be 
disappointed. Everyone says the Espar and Webastos are best. 

 

I'de be doing the installation myself in any case so am eager to hear from 
others who have gone through it. 

 

Thanks,

 

Steve

Suhana, C&C 32

Toronto

 

 

 

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Re: Stus-List repairing large wet deck core areas

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Petar –

If I understand your question, you do want to install new marine ply under the 
track.  Don’t keep it all balsa.

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Petar 
Horvatic via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 8:41 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Petar Horvatic
Subject: Re: Stus-List repairing large wet deck core areas

 

So I did some digging over the weekend and I can say few things regarding deck 
and core along the genoa tracks for C&C38 mk2 from 1976.

Top laminate is 3/16” thick.  Balsa is ½”.

In my case, wet areas are pretty extensive.  Tapping and sounding the top got 
me to mark out a big rectangular area.  It extends from about 2” inboard of the 
genoa track and its about 12” wide.  It runs the length of the track.  

There is a 4” wide section of marine ply (also 1/2” thick) under the track 
itself.I wonder if I do the same or just keep balsa. 

I posted some horrifying photos on cruisers forum.  Warning, pics are pretty 
disturbing. 

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2039627#post2039627

Haven’t done the bevel yet, and still have about an hour to get all the rot 
out.  

As I said on CF, I’ll do epoxy repairs and use the double bias stitch mat and 
toss out the top laminate.   I’ve had enough of polyester.  Its porous nowhere 
near as strong, and if you go to trouble of doing this much work, might as well 
not skimp out on material.  The big question is how to transition to gelcoat 
again?  

The cutout is the length of the track so I am not worried about genoa cars 
getting stuck on the track due to deck transitions. 

 

Petar Horvatic

Sundowner

76 C&C 38MkII

On the hard at Stanley’s in Barrington

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 1:23 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Hoyt, Mike
Subject: Re: Stus-List repairing large wet deck core areas

 

Petar

 

This link shows a recoring project on our former boat 
http://users.eastlink.ca/~mhoyt/Projects/recore/recore.htm

 

Initially we had 4 stanchions that had cracked deck (not just gelcoat) at the 
stanchion bases.  The first year I recored these four areas only.  The link 
above details that job.  The following year I had a surveyor check out the 
entire deck and hull for moisture.  We noted the wet areas (all on the decks) 
and replaced the core in all remaining wet areas except the cockpit seats (done 
another year).  This project involved replacing the core under the genoa tracks 
and also under the primary winches among the 14 areas of problem.  

 

When I replace core material I never save the top skin.  However I do know a 
lot of people do and that is your option.  Most of the wet areas on a deck are 
in non skid areas so it is very easy to rebuild your own top skin and I find 
that process a whole lot simpler.  This is my preference but not necessarily 
better nor worse than keeping the top skin and reusing.  The two benefits of 
not reusing top skin are 1. It is more work to remove the top skin than to 
discard it and 2. You may get air voids under the replaced top skin if not done 
well.  The benefits of retaining the top skin are that you have the contours of 
the deck area saved.  This is nice on a coach roof for example

 

When I start removing the core I normally drill some pilot holes to determine 
how far the wetness and the rot extends.  Typically the rot is localized but 
the moisture travels quite far.  I cut out the area that I know is wet and then 
if I am still in wet core I continue removing until I get to dry core.  Note 
that wet core is not soft.  Rotten core is soft.  Wet balsa can actually still 
adhere quite well to the bottom and top skin and be strong.  However why would 
you leave it?  It is not much more work to replace core in a 1 x 4 ft section 
of deck than it is a 6” by 2 ft section.

 

For an idea of the labour involved compare to a bottom job.  Nut Case our J27 
took 50 hours to strip the bottom to gel coat (by hand), apply barrier coat and 
then antifoul.  By comparison was only 30 hours to replace four sections of 
core material that same year.

 

Note that I have done this job using polyester resins (large areas and cost) as 
well as epoxy.  

 

If you have any questions do not hesitate to ask.  

 

Mike

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Petar 
Horvatic via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 12:45 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Petar Horvatic
Subject: Stus-List repairing large wet deck core areas

 

Hi all,

I am getting ready to tackle the wet deck along the port genoa track and before 
I start cutting, I  have few questions for the group.  

 

Gelcoat cracks and delamination is appearing almost the length of the track on 
my 38 Mk2.   I realize that not all spider cracks are due to wet core, but 
there is some strong indication that at least  ¾ section of geona track area

Re: Stus-List ProFurl Spinex

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Bill – I’ve raced with an asym for the last 5 years.  I looked closely at the 
top down spin furlers at a recent boat show.  They are expensive and, I’m told, 
not overly reliable (yet).  If looking for a way to tame a spin, I was directed 
by multiple sources to a sock.  ATN specifically.   

 

Charlie – short answer is I believe that comment is incorrect, or more likely, 
out of date.  

 

Here’s the long answer: The biggest deficit for Asym on boats like ours is 
racing W/L courses in a blow.  In our area LMPHRF has a rating credit based on 
D/L that helps negate some of this.  In lighter air, boats reach more and 
sailing angle is negligible.  However, when the wind picks up and sym boats 
pole back, that’s when we suffer the most.  Ironically in distance races, where 
we like to play, we take a rating hit for an asym.I’m told LMPHRF has a 
unique system compared to other regions.   

 

Considering ease of use, required # crew, efficiency, etc,  I think an asym is 
a much better deal.  Especially for distance races or racing cans in a light 
air area.  Heavy air buoy racing = sym.   

 

Hope that helps.

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Charlie 
Nelson via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:26 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: cenel...@aol.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List ProFurl Spinex

 

I understood, mostly from comments on this list, that using an A-sail on a 
displacement hull and sail plan rigged for a mast head spinnaker was not 
recommended, except perhaps for short-handed racing. 

 

Is this incorrect, out-of date or still true?

 

Charlie Nelson

C&C 36XL

New Bern, NC

 

  cenel...@aol.com

 

 

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To: cnc-list <  cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Bill Coleman <  colt...@verizon.net>
Sent: Thu, Feb 11, 2016 4:06 pm
Subject: Stus-List ProFurl Spinex

Well, PHRF-LE just allowed a foot extension for A-Sails with no penalty, so, I 
see a new stemhead fitting with a foot long bow roller in the future for the 
Coltrek.

 

Has anyone had any experience with these Profurl Spinex spinnaker furlers with 
the roller balls on the torsion rope? 

And Defender just happens to have some of these on sale . .. 

 

  
http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|118|2358486|2358488&id=2073636

 

 

Bill Coleman

C&C 39 Erie, PA

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Stus-List Octopus linear drive

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

All - 

I need to replace my autopilot ram and am considering the Octopus 1212LAR12.  
Anyone have installation or use experience with the brand?  At a recent boat 
show the only input I had was from competitors that stated the units are loud.  

 

Also, I made a quick search in my saved emails and did not find any previous 
references.  Please forward if you have something.

 

Thanks,

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Re: Stus-List Cushions smell

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

We used a product called " capture" that worked well. I believe we found it at 
a Home Depot 

Sent from Outlook on my iPhone




On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 4:12 PM -0800, "Andrew Burton via CnC-List" 
 wrote:










Baking soda and pet and toddler odor remover. Just went through the same thing 
on a delivery and found a couple of products on the market. The pet odor stuff 
we found at Walmart and it really did the trick, actually got rid of rather 
than masked the smell.
AndyC&C 40Peregrine

Andrew Burton61 W NarragansettNewport, RI USA    02840
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/+401 965-5260
On Feb 25, 2016, at 18:44, TOM VINCENT via CnC-List  
wrote:




I have an odor of diesel in all of my cushions. It is not a strong smell, when 
you first go below it is more revelent - after you are there for awhile it is 
not as bad. If anyone has had a similar problem and solved the issue, I would 
love to know how. Obviously, a total replacement would work. The Admiral 
refuses to sleep on the boat because of the odor. I have taken the cushions off 
for the winter and steam cleaned one and sprayed it with Fabreeze, not much 
different.
 
Tom Vincent
Frolic II C&C 36 cb
Chesapeake City, MD 
  
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Stus-List sleeper factor

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

“sleeper factor” is an interesting comment and touches a nerve with me.   The 
comment we get mostly is we have a “gift rating”.  Seems when we do well in 
races our rating is a gift.  However if we do poorly, we didn’t sail well.
Whatever.   I’m tired of other boats being sailed poorly and using gift rating 
as an excuse.  The never ending problems with PHRF, I guess.

 

Sorry for the rant.  Long week. 

 

-  Pete and his screaming, PHRF busting, 1984 straight up 37 

 

 

 

 

On 18 March 2016 at 10:15, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Same story with the 34+

..The "Sleeper" factor far outweighs the snob appeal of a bigger number on 
the badge any day in my book. 




 

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Re: Stus-List Auto pilot installation

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Ditto.  It’s the only instrument I have at the wheel.   I kept the navpod base 
fitting loose so it can be turned to either side or forward for better viewing.

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary Russell 
via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 7:41 PM
To: C&C List
Cc: Gary Russell
Subject: Re: Stus-List Auto pilot installation

 

I mounted mine on a Navpod on the pedestal guard on my C&C 35 Mk II.

Gary




~~~_/)~~

 

On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Annette Reesor via CnC-List 
 wrote:

We have purchased a wheel pilot for our 1976 C&C 33, but are wondering where 
others have installed the control head?  The T shaped cockpit doesn't seem to 
have much 'free' space.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 

Annette


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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

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Sounds like a couple big “ifs” out there, but assuming the cost and maintenance 
headache is less for Stu, I’ll vote forum

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stu via 
CnC-List
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 4:32 PM
To: C&C Email List
Subject: Stus-List Email List or Forum

 

Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a 
“Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like 
this one).

 

PROS:

1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list

2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails.

3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads.

4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.

5. Easily moderated by more than one person.  Threads can be deleted and 
undesirable subscribers blocked.

6. No more 20-30 emails a day.  Visit the site at your convenience and view the 
latest topics since your last visit.

 

CONS:

1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional 
enhancements.

2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. 
()

3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time.  And a bit 
more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection.

 

Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list?  It 
does not matter to me.

 

Stu

 

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Stus-List 37 stemhead casting

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

I'm looking for a stemhead casting, sometimes called a bowplate, for a early
80s vintage 37.   Please forward salvage yards or other sources you may be
aware of.

 

Thanks,

Pete

 

 

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Re: Stus-List 37 stemhead casting

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Unfortunately South Shore doesn't have this piece.   Still looking for other
sources.

Thanks,


-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bina
via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 1:21 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 37 stemhead casting

When I needed the boom end of the gooseneck for my 27-5, it took them a
couple days to go look in storage, but they found a brand new casting that
had not even had the final holes drilled and machining done on it.

Bill Bina

On 3/16/2015 1:16 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List wrote:
> Pete,
>
> did you try South Shore Yachts? They have many original parts.
>
> Joel
>
> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Pete Shelquist via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>
> I'm looking for a stemhead casting, sometimes called a bowplate,for
> a early 80s vintage 37.  Please forwardsalvage yards or other
> sources you may be aware of.
>
>

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Re: Stus-List New Instruments

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

+1 Garmin.  

 

Garmin still leads with PGN coverage, ease of use, functionality and you don’t 
need to buy additional little black boxes to tie in other components.  I 
plugged in a B&G display and it all just worked. 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Sheer 
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 4:55 PM
To: Cnc-list CNC Boat Owners
Subject: Stus-List New Instruments

 

When I bought Pegathy, I got a Garmin 421s chartplotter. It was small enough to 
be unobtrusive and had as many (maybe more) pixels than the larger screens. It 
will display any combination of up to 4 (I think) instruments on the NMEA 2000 
bus on a ribbon on the chart screen. The next year, I bought a gmi10 package 
with a masthead anemometer, temperature and pressure sensor and a depth  and 
water temp sensor. The gmi 10 will display up to 4 instruments at once in user 
defined formats with user defined alarm limits for each. It also allows you to 
create a bunch of custom combinations which can be stored and accessed with the 
push of a button, or maybe a few pushes if you define a bunch of screens. There 
are other good features as well. 

 

Replaced four instrument heads with one. Works for me, except that I had to 
cover the holes. It's backed up by the chart plotter, so I'm more comfortable 
with having a single head. Just bought a Lowrance NMEA 2000 VHF/AIS receiver 
which is supposed to communicate with the chartplotter. Haven't tried it yet. 
Still waiting for warm enough weather to pain the bottom.

 

Dan Sheer

Pegathy LF 38

Rock Creek off the Patapsco

 

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Stus-List webasto parts

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I’m looking for specific Webasto parts.  Does anyone have name/number of 
marinas that install air heaters and carry parts?

 

Thanks,

 

 

   

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Re: Stus-List webasto parts

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I already checked out the local trucking sources.  And yes I called webasto 
directly but have a 4-6 week wait.  I need an extended piece of exhaust tubing 
and am looking for a shop that carries it bulk.  I’m at the point that any 
source is better than not getting this before launch.

 

 

From: Steve Thomas [mailto:sthom...@sympatico.ca] 
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 2:47 PM
To: Pete Shelquist; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List webasto parts

 

I presume that you are already using Google in your quest for parts, but don't 
ignore the truck tractor-trailer market. There are a lot more of these heaters 
sold to truckers than to boaters. There is a good chance that there is a truck 
service shop that stocks Webasto heaters and service parts closer than the 
nearest marina with similar services. It might help also to let us know at 
least in what general area you live, in order to make appropriate suggestions. 

 

Steve Thomas

St. Thomas, ON

(Port Stanley)

 

- Original Message - 

From: Pete Shelquist via CnC-List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>  

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 

Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 15:21

Subject: Stus-List webasto parts

 

I’m looking for specific Webasto parts.  Does anyone have name/number of 
marinas that install air heaters and carry parts?

 

Thanks,

 

 

   

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Stus-List boosting cell signal

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Panbo's recent article covers options for wifi and cell signal boosting.  I'm 
interested in what others have done for an economical way to boost a cell 
signal.

Thanks,


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Stus-List rig tuning

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

A comment was made to me the other day that if an insurance company sees split 
rings at the rigs turnbuckles (vs cotter pins) that coverage will be null and 
void.  I found nothing in my policy stating this detail.  

 

Anyone else ever hear of this?

 

Thanks,

Pete

 

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Re: Stus-List New instruments?

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Patrick - 

Time for a little point/counter point on Raymarine.  I'm not a fan.

 

I have Raymarine, B&G and Garmin.   I'd go B&G first, nexus/garmin second.
B&G's new equipment is N2K and price competitive.  Check out the Simrad side
of the product line for differences in features/functions that meet your
needs.   

 

B&G works very well with Garmin (My experience; Raymarine not so much) and
is slightly more sailing oriented, which is the only edge over Garmin.
Garmin's support is very good.  I've never had to call tech support for B&G,
so I have no input there.

 

If you intend to install Raymarine and only Raymarine, knock yourself out.
Having a Certified Installation guru on this list is a huge help and he's
generous with his time.  Without him you're back to whomever you get at Ray
Tech Support.  Having been in the trenches with those guys on communication
issues, you won't get far.  

 

good luck.

 



Stus-List New instruments?

This thread is a couple months old, but I'm looking into new instruments
now too. Mainly a new speed display + transducer. Eventually adding a wind
instrument and maybe replacing the depth (old but still working).

Anyone have experience with B&G? I was considering a Raymarine i70 but now
am looking at the B&G Triton T41.  For my needs I prefer one multi-function
screen that can connect to speed, depth and wind.

I'm leaning away from Raymarine now because their incompatible network
versions and mismash of products seems terribly confusing. I called
Raymarine tech support yesterday and even the support guy had his facts all
wrong. He told me an i70 is a repeater only, and requires separate i50
display instruments for each sensor you want to network in. But based on
other people I talked to and info on the web, it looks like that is
incorrect and an i70 could be networked directly with a modern digital
transducer (what Raymarine calls "smart transducers"). He also told me a
triducer is a bundled package of two separate thruhulls.

So, B&G yay or nay?

-Patrick
C&C 38 LF "Violet Hour"
Seattle, WA

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Re: Stus-List Annapolis to Newport

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The boats are still pretty packed together, except the Tripp 41 that went up 
the shore line early this morning.   Kinda hope it works out for him, but it 
appears he may have stayed inside a little too long.  

 

Anyone have access to the wine/waves that they’re seeing now?

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G 
Street via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 12:11 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Frederick G Street
Subject: Stus-List Annapolis to Newport

 

Joel on “The Office” seems to have found some wind; he’s keeping up with the 
big boys!

 

http://yb.tl/a2n2015

 


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

 

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Re: Stus-List Annapolis to Newport

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Wow, must be Friday.My fingers have a mind of their own.

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G 
Street via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 2:44 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Frederick G Street
Subject: Re: Stus-List Annapolis to Newport

 

Joel wouldn’t let us have wine on the boat last year…   :^)

 

That Tripp that went inshore had been doing a half knot better than the leaders 
at times; but it looks like everyone else if heading offshore and picking up 
some wind now.

 

PredictWind might give you what you’re looking for.


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

 

On Jun 5, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Pete Shelquist via CnC-List  
wrote:

 

Anyone have access to the wine/waves that they’re seeing now?

 

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Stus-List island planet sails

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

 Anyone have experience with Island Planet sails?   More specifically the
composite sails?

 

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Stus-List Regulator for force10 grill

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

I need to replace the reg on an old force 10 grill.  Model HA-011.  Only thing 
I've found similar is on a Dickinson @ defender.  Local hardware store has 
nothing. Any other suggestions?

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Stus-List 2015 trans-superior

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Another trans-superior is in the books.  Not all finishers are recorded yet, 
but C&Cs did well.
Trans results here:http://www.transsuperior.com 
http://www.yachtscoring.com/event_results_detail.cfm?Race_Number=1

Lots of fun racing up on superior.  Those in the area are welcome to jump in 
any time. Bayfield to Silver Bay Scramble is Aug 22.  Drop me a note for 
details.
Bayfield racing info:http://wyc.org/ais/Home.aspx

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Re: Stus-List 2015 trans-superior

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Thanks Fred.  The real story is Don on the 115.  He sailed really well against 
a bunch of tough boats.   I got to know him at the soo.  Good guy. 
Watching the v70 was amazing.  The speed is jaw dropping.  He was out of sight 
in 30 mins. 

Sent from Outlook

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Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2015 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List 2015 trans-superior
To:  
Cc: Frederick G Street 


   And it looks like Pete grabbed first in PHRF C — congrats!!!  Not every 
day up on Superior you get to race against a Volvo 70…   :^)  

  
Fred Street -- Minneapolis 
S/V  Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI 

  
  On Aug 6, 2015, at 7:48 AM, Pete Shelquist via CnC-List < 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
   Another trans-superior is in the books.  Not all 
finishers are recorded yet, but C&Cs did well.   
   Trans results here:   
http://www.transsuperior.com    
http://www.yachtscoring.com/event_results_detail.cfm?Race_Number=1  
 
   
   Lots of fun racing up on superior. Those in the area are 
welcome to jump in any time. Bayfield to Silver Bay Scramble is Aug 22. Drop me 
a note for details.   
   Bayfield racing info:   
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Re: Stus-List anchor roller

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Ditto

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Kurt
Heckert via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:02 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Kurt Heckert
Subject: Re: Stus-List anchor roller

 


I also would like to see those pictures, my 35 mkII does not have a bow
roller or a chain locker.

My email address is kurt_heck...@att.net

 

  _  

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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com ; 
Cc: Rick Brass ; 
Subject: Re: Stus-List anchor roller 
Sent: Wed, Aug 19, 2015 12:43:37 AM 

 


Ditto

 

Rick Brass

Sent from my iPad


On Aug 17, 2015, at 19:53, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List
 > wrote:

 

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Stus-List 37 icebox rebuild

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Dave - 

.   I also have a 37 ('84) and just did a quick review of your Ronin refit
site.  Have you tackled the re-insulation of the ice box?  It's been on my
list for a couple years and I'm thinking about putting it on the list this
winter.

 

Thanks,

Pete

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave
Godwin via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:34 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Dave Godwin
Subject: Re: Stus-List Battery question for LF38 owners

 

Not sure about space underneath the quarter-berth on a LF38 but like Bill on
"Starfire", the 37' has a similar setup.

 

I've rebuilt
  my starter battery area underneath the quarter-berth and although I
only have a single starting battery per the original configuration, I made
sure that the new shelf would allow for a second battery should I go that
route.

 

That said, I yanked the old Raritan hot-water heater and replaced it with a
new Isotherm unit thereby freeing up more space.

 

Dave Godwin
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay

Ronin  's Overdue Refit

 

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Stus-List Self leveling Radar mount

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

I'm reviewing a couple different types of self-leveling radar mounts for a
pole.  Seaview and Scanstrut are two that I'm finding.  Anyone have
experience with either, or yet another brand?

 

Thanks,

 

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Stus-List Raymarine SPX 30

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Anyone ever get the error message “Pilot S Reset” from their Raymarine 
autopilot?  I have an SPX 30 that won’t run for more than a couple minutes and 
resets to standby with the above message.

 

I checked all the manuals I have and the only description is that it’s an 
internal error.  No tech support response yet either- Classic.  

 

Thanks,

 

 

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Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Danny – 

The advice Mike gives re: 740 is very good.   Coincidently, I also happen to 
have one for sale.  

 

Pete

 

 

 

On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 8:16 AM,  wrote:

From: "Hoyt, Mike" 
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
Cc: 
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 12:34:49 +
Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

Danny

 

Purchase Navionics Boating HD for your tablet while it is still available.  It 
is supposed to be discontinued very soon and may have been discontinued already

 

We have a Garmin GPSMAP 740 at the helm.  It is extremely useful when going 
anywhere and on the size boat you are purchasing is almost a necessity.  A 
tablet in the cockpit is not nearly so robust and very prone to breakage and 
power loss, especially in any sea condition

 

We just returned from the Bras d’Ors Lakes in Cape Breton, NS.  The total 
return delivery was approx. 170NM.  I have a Windows Surface 2 (RT version) 
with the Boating HD app.  This in fact is now permitted to be on board in place 
of paper charts as is the same charting information.  We also had all the paper 
charts along the way and also a Raymarine A65 small chartplotter at the Nav 
station.  For plotting my courses I used the Surface tablet and then noted each 
of the waypoints and plugged them into my chartplotters.  I found using the 
tablet for course plotting extremely useful and much simpler than the paper 
chart with dividers etc …  I also found that having the waypoints in my 
chartplotter at helm almost a necessity.  

 

My 0.02

 

Mike

Persistence

1987 Frers 33

Halifax, NS

 

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Re: Stus-List Best n2k GPS receiver?

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Fred – 

That’s one.  

 

J

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G 
Street via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2015 2:16 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Frederick G Street
Subject: Re: Stus-List Best n2k GPS receiver?

 

Dave — take a look at the Simrad GS25 GPS sensor: 
http://www.simrad-yachting.com/en-US/Products/GPS/GS25-en-us.aspx 
 

 

Priced under $200.  It comes with a 15-foot NMEA2000 cable and Micro connector 
to plug into a ”T” on a standard NMEA2k backbone.

 

A nice bonus is the fast 10Hz heading data you get out of the onboard magnetic 
compass; if you don’t have an autopilot to supply fast heading data, this will 
still allow you to do reliable radar overlay on your plotter.

 

See, Pete — I don’t ALWAYS suggest Raymarine…   :^)

 

— Fred


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

 

 

On Sep 12, 2015, at 1:34 PM, Dave via CnC-List  wrote:

 

Hello all.  Working through the details of my winter electronics upgrade and am 
trying to select a standalone nmea 2000 GPS receiver.  (Like Garmin 19x, 
raymarine rs130).  I  cannot find any comparisons or reviews, has anyone been 
down this path?  Thanks!

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Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation

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Dave - 

I'll chime in.I did that job about 3 years ago and am glad I did.Note
that it's no silver bullet.   Martin's comment that "no one asks if the
diesel is running" is still accurate, but it's a lot better.   As I get
older the engine doesn't sound as bad as it used to, so I have that going
for me J  

 

It's really not that hard of a project and there's a lot less "dirt" in the
area in addition to the reduction in noise pollution.  

 

I figure it's like refrigeration.   You can live without it, but it's nice
to have.

 

Hope that helps.


Pete

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David via
CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 4:22 PM
To: CNC CNC
Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation

 

Well I heard from one about the not-so-great results from installing engine
sound insulation...anybody  else want to chime in with an opinion about
whether it is worth it?

David F. Risch
1981-402
(401) 419-4650 (cell)



> To: pauljba...@shaw.ca; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 18:03:44 -0300
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without an engine? Now
docking
> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> 
> You got it...i know that one because I had a 27 MKIII in the same sort of
> dock arrangement
> 
> Dwight Veinot
> C&C 35MKII, Alianna
> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Paul
> Baker via CnC-List
> Sent: August 28, 2014 3:34 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without an engine? Now
> docking
> 
> Which is all well and good if your dock has a piling or some other way of
> getting a midships springline onto it. My dock is a low, short finger,
when
> the boat is in the slip the stern is just about to the end of the finger
so
> no way to drop a springline over a dock cleat as I come in singlehanded.
> I just have to wing it, drive in with enough way on to allow steerage,
quick
> blast of reverse to tuck the stern in and stop any forward motion(dock is
to
> port with reverse giving me a port walk), step off and throw the docklines
> over my cleats like a hero. Usually. Gets more interesting with the
> current and/or wind blowing you away from the dock of course, haven't got
> that one nailed quite yet (first year with an inboard) but fortunately
don't
> have a boat in the adjoining slip so there is always a plan B, however
> untidy it looks.
> Cheers,
> Paul
> 
> Orange Crush
> C&C27MkII
> Sidney, BC.
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Joe via CnC-List Della Barba" 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 10:57:15 AM
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine Sound Insulation - Go Without an engine?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Key to difficult docking situations is a midships spring line. If you drop
a
> short spring on a piling you can run against it and snug up to the dock
> under power either way and under sail going downwind. 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> Joe Della Barba 
> 
> Coquina 
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Re: Stus-List Online Captains License or class room?

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I always understood the on-the-water hours qualification was the more limiting 
restriction.  Is that not in place anymore?  

 

I know a lot of licensed captains out there aren’t worth a damn.  IE:  It takes 
more than just passing a test.

 

 

 

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via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 11:48 AM
To: Josh Muckley; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Online Captains License or class room?

 

I second Josh's comments about Mariners Learning System - but I had the hard 
copy books (as well as online / DVD's) and found myself using them on long 
flights, making notes etc.  I passed the test easily after taking the course - 
I added a couple of apps to my phone for light / signal flash cards that came 
in handy.  I would recommend Mariners Learning System - if you are OK learning 
from materials / on your own.  Just to note, this was not my first experience 
with certification, having done the RYA tests when I lived in England.

 

Getting the correct medical and drug testing done is not as simple as it sounds.

 

Tim

 

On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Online at mariners learning system was fine for me and my wife.  I didn't like 
the materials because it was a video that simply read through the course book.  
The tests were simple quizes and module tests were rote memorization of the 
written and video material.  We made flash cards of all of the quiz and test 
questions and passed the final test pretty easily.  Crammed the night before.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Oct 3, 2014 10:59 AM, "Curtis via CnC-List"  wrote:

Need some advise

 

 

 

I have always wanted to get my ticket. When i retire I want to be able to move 
some boats for a living maybe for a local marina and the like. I want to get 
the ball rolling. But I find that there are from around $500 bucks on line to 
as much as 1500 in class type schools. I was hoping for some incite on the 
better way to take and pass the test. I want to learn and I want to pass. I 
want to better hone my skill to become a better skipper. I have a 65 mile ride 
to Charleston or a 30 mile ride to Savannah to find a school. Are the On-Line 
courses sufficient enough to make the test passable? I would thing a instructor 
would be needed to prepare for a test like that? they claim a 98% pass rate.

Lets here your 2 ¢

Best regards,

Curtis McDaniel, 

C&C 30-MK1 East Coast Lady

Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you 
didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away 
from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. 
Discover.  -Mark Twain

  cpt.b...@gmail.com

 

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Re: Stus-List Backstay aduster

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Ditto on the sailtec.  Good Wisconsin company.

 

7 yrs and no issues for me.   Of course I take it off every fall and store
inside for the winter.

 

Good idea of Harken pumping both ways.if you're into that.

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Coleman via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 4:28 PM
To: 'Bruno Lachance'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Backstay aduster

 

My 39 had a Sailtec installed by the PO.

No problems from when he bought it in early 90's till now. I like it.

http://www.sailtec.com/products/hydraulic-integral-adjusters.html

 

I think the Harken is nice too, supposedly it pumps both ways.

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

 

Regards,

 

Bill 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bruno
Lachance via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 5:15 PM
To: Joel Aronson; Kevin Driscoll; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Backstay aduster

 

The 33 is not split backstay, maybe some late models have them but not mine.

 
I can not beleive there is not a better reliable system on the market.
anybody with direct experience of the Wichard mechanical wiht ratchet ? i
don't even know if the handle pumps up and down or rotates with some sort of
relief system hence the ratchet ??? same question about power, but the
numbers indicate it would be more than appropriate for my boat.
 
I'm worried to dump more money into hydrolic and be a the same point in a
year or two. Worse case scenario i lost the rig, i had to jury something
this summer offshore in 25 knots plus when the thing blew on my transom. not
fun at all. i bought a spare turnbucle after that one and went on with my
vacations.
 
thanks for inputs
 
Bruno Lachance
C&C 33 mkII
Becassine
 

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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 16:45:20 -0400
To: kevindrisc...@gmail.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Backstay aduster
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

My 2 cents:

I don't think the 33 is a split backstay.  The cost to split it and install
new chain plates would probably exceed the cost of a hydraulic unit. 

With a masthead rig I would want more power than you can get with a manual
adjuster.

 

 

Joel

35/3

Annapolis

 

On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List
 wrote:

I second the split back with tackle/cam cleat apparatus suggestion. I race a
bit with it and Find it straight forward and quick adjusting. Pretty direct
feedback on rig tension.

KD



On October 8, 2014, at 1:13PM, John Pennie via CnC-List wrote:

For a 33 you may want to consider one of the fittings that ride on a split
backstay from Johnson.  Not nearly as eloquent but effective and probably
the best value. 

 

John

 

On Oct 8, 2014, at 4:06 PM, Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List
 wrote:

 

If you race your boat you will find the mechanical back stay adjuster to be
a complete PITA. 

 

I have a stainless steel Barient back stay adjuster (5/8" pins and uses a
winch handle to adjust) that came with my boat back in 1975 to be used in
case the original Meriman hydraulic adjusters failed. It did indeed fail and
we rigged the Barient and it took all that one could do to crank in enough
tension just to straighten the mast 

 

Jack Fitzgerald

HONEY
C&C 39 TM




 

 

 

On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Bruno Lachance via CnC-List
 wrote:

Hi all,
 
I sent my navtec backstay for a rebuild at Southshore and it seems the over
25 years thing is dammaged (scratch on pump cylinder, not fixable, it still
leaks). I'm looking at options and the two on the list are: replace it by
the exact same thing (Navtec) or screw hydrolic and go with the mechanical
option. Would be a Wichard product, the one with a ratchet or handle with no
ratchet, not the wheel.
 
any opinions on that decision would be appreciated regarding reliability and
performance (i like to play with that toy!) would a mechanical be too slow
to adjust?
 
Thanks
 
Bruno Lachance
C&C 33 mkII
Becassine
 
 

 


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Re: Stus-List Volvo ocean race game?

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Graham - 
Not this time, but I downloaded the race app on my Ipad (Volvo Ocean Race
2014).   With the tracking and video footage, this is going to be crazy
cool. 


 

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Graham
Collins via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 8:34 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Volvo ocean race game?

Anyone doing the volvo ocean race game?  (Virtual regatta at 
http://www.virtualregatta.com/)

-- 
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Re: Stus-List thread reply and rod rigging

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Dave - 

In addition to the comments on rod rigging, and as a point of reference for
you on costs, I had an old Stearns headstay/furler and replaced it this fall
with a Harken.  This required that I add a new forestay.  For multiple
reasons I went with rod vs wire.  Total cost for just the forestay, which
included toggles for new furler, was about $1300.   If you make this
purchase and are looking for budget numbers, re-heading everything for
around $2k is good value with appropriate safety/reliability that others
have mentioned.

 

Hope that helps.

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David
Dawes via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 7:20 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List thread reply and rod rigging

 

Hi, can someone tell me how to reply to a thread?  Sorry, I can't figure it
out.  So I started a new one.

 

 

Next I looked at a 1984 CNC 35 M3 yesterday.  Concerned about the rod
rigging.  This boat is run down so I don't expect a record of rigging
inspection or service.

 

A rigger friend recommended full replacement.

 

Is this correct?  And what are alternatives?  What is a rod replacement cost
approx?  And is a wire replacement smart/ advisable/ cost effective or too
heavy?  Technology has moved ahead in 30 years.

 

I love the boat layout etc.  But suspect rigging will kill my offshore
pleasure!

 

Many thanks,

 

David.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

David Dawes

Captain

Newport, RI, USA

+1(401)5854942

dawes...@hotmail.com

 

 

 

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Re: Stus-List Custom C&C Race boats (was - boat terms)

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Ed - 
True North is in Thunder Bay, Ont.  I saw her in August when in the area for a 
race.  There’s also another custom 37 there called Pennycress.Pennycress 
annually comes down to Bayfield Race Week, but I haven’t seen either in the 
Trans for a while.

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edward 
Levert via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 7:24 PM
To: Rick Taillieu; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Custom C&C Race boats (was - boat terms)

 

In the mid 1970's TRUE NORTH came south to Lake Pontchartrain. She was a custom 
C&C 37 designed and built to defend the Canada's Cup. Flush deck with "ant 
hills," sockets moulded into the deck to accept winch handles. The ant hills 
were cross linked so that the leeward winch could be ground from the windward 
side. She was brought to the lake by Gene Walet, a former Olympic sailor and 
then the local C&C dealer to provide competition to Corrie, C&C 39 hull # 2 or 
3 and Touché. Gene added rather crude extensions to the aft curvature of the 
hull extending past the reverse transom for some undiscernabe rating or 
performance benefit. A recent Google search pulled up a report of TN having 
done well in the Trans Superior race a few years ago. It would be nice to hear 
about her current status. Gene replaced TN with White Pony, one of the early 
C&C 38's, which was never competitive with the C&C 39.

 

Ed

C&C 34 Briar Patch

New Orleans 


On Monday, November 10, 2014, Rick Taillieu via CnC-List 
 wrote:

While we’re on the subject of custom C&C race boats does anyone know anything 
about this one?

It looks like a 38 MK I or II hull with a mostly flush deck and racing cabin 
layout.

At first I thought it might be the One Tonner but the deck layout in the 
pictures is quite different than in the magazine ad that I have a scan of.

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1975/C%26C-38-2744779/Canada#.VGEhiclMpD4

 

 

Rick Taillieu

Nemesis

'75 C&C 25  #371

Shearwater Yacht Club

Halifax, NS.

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com 
 ] On Behalf Of 
Burt Stratton via CnC-List
Sent: November-10-14 15:12
To: 'Martin DeYoung'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 ; 'jtsails'
Subject: Re: Stus-List boat terms

 

Somehow I knew this was an easy one for all you listers. Thanks so much. My 
next stop is IOR ton rating. Had no clue…

 

I wonder now how many and for how long C&C made these custom class-racers.  

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com 
 ] On Behalf Of 
Martin DeYoung via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 1:55 PM
To: jtsails; cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 
Subject: Re: Stus-List boat terms

 

Burt,

 

James’ answer leading you to search using “IOR ton rating is good advice.  In 
short, the term “ton” was based on an IOR rating band that allowed IOR boats to 
race “one design”.  IIRC the popular “ton” classes were: ¼. ½, ¾, 1, and 2. 
Sailing Anarchy has had several recent topics that cover IOR and “Ton” racing 
well.

 

Calypso would have rated as a 2 tonner. A J-24 sized boat would be close to a ¼ 
tonner.  Today there is a resurgence of ton class racing with ¼ and ½ ton 
regattas being well attended.  Boats that had been neglected for years are 
being resurrected, modernized and raced hard.

 

Back in the heyday of IOR racing I had the opportunities to race extensively on 
¾, 1, and 2 ton class boats.  The racing was tight and fun.  We used bloopers.  
In the PNW town of Bellingham a regatta called PITCH (Pacific International Ton 
Championship) was started in the early 80’s.  The racing was as intense as the 
partying. Protest meeting often went past dinner time.

 

Martin

Calypso

1971 C&C 43

Seattle

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Re: Stus-List New CnC Owner Introduction...

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

David - 

I also have a 37 and happy to help out if you have any questions.

 

Pete

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David via
CnC-List
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 1:38 PM
To: David McDonough; CNC CNC
Subject: Stus-List New CnC Owner Introduction...

 

CnC Group meet David McDonough...David meet the best damned owners group out
there...



David F. Risch
1981 40-2
(401) 419-4650 (cell)



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From: dmcdono...@jhu.edu
To: davidrisc...@msn.com
Subject: RE: CnC Rendezvous Site
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 17:10:03 +

David,

 

Thank you.

 

I look forward to the info for next year's summer rendezvous. 

 

David 

 

David McDonough

Cell (410) 491-3746

dmcdono...@jhu.edu 

Trinity

1984 C&C 37

 

From: David [mailto:davidrisc...@msn.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 11:50 AM
To: David McDonough
Subject: CnC Rendezvous Site

 

David,

That site is being replaced.   We have a great e-mail group of which I can
send you the e-mail link.

You can then introduce yourself and ask any type of questions or help
others.

Welcome!!

David F. Risch
1981 40-2
(401) 419-4650 (cell)

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Stus-List webasto heater exhaust fitting

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

After freezing my tail off last season on some overnight races, I finally
broke down and am in the process of installing a heater on the boat.

 

With the reverse angle on the transom, I understand there can be issues
installing the straight through transom fitting that came with the kit.   I
found the following angled fitting available in the UK.  Anyone know of a
dealer/mnfctr in the US?

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/24MM-S-S-EXHAUST-SKIN-FITTING-FOR-EBERSPACHER-WEBA
STO-DIESEL-HEATER-/111490826093 

 

Pete

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Stus-List Garmin 740 for sale

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

I'm considering upgrading my GPS.  Anyone interested in a Garmin 740?  I
have the GXM  SiriusXM receiver to go with it.  

 

Great unit.  I'm going for the newer model with more features.

 

Contact me directly.

 

Pete

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Re: Stus-List C&C 30 one design

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Congrats Jack!  Keep up the good work.

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jack 
Fitzgerald via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 1:33 PM
To: Tom Buscaglia; C&CList
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 30 one design

 

C&C 30 OD

 

I just shipped 3 of these boats (hull nos: 05, 06 & 08) to USWatercraft's 
Japanese dealer. All 3 boats were pre sold. The dealer has 3 more hulls on 
order for delivery by the end of May 2015.

 

There is also a lot of interest from Australia we well.

 

Jack Fitzgerald

HONEY

US12788

C&C 39 TM




 

 

On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Looking forward to finally seeing one at the Seattle Boat Show next week.  
Hoping they'll have the a Redline 41 though I doubt it.

Oh yeah...go Hawks!

Tom Buscaglia
S/V Alera
1990 C&C 37+/40
Vashon WA
P 206.463.9200


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>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 20:15:30 -0500
> From: Jerome Tauber 
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
> Subject: Stus-List C&C30 one design at Key West
>
> There will be a C&C 30 one design competing in Key West Race Week starting 
> tomorrow.  Jerry c&C 27 v J&J
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Stus-List handicap for after market sprits

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

LMPHRF, our local handicap governing body, is making adjustments to the
credit and penalties of handicaps for displacement hull boats that fly
asyms, with and without the addition of sprits.  

I'm interested in what other regions are using for regs, amount of
participation, and observations of performance changes.

Thanks for your help.

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Re: Stus-List Latest Chartplotters

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Bill - 
I'm thinking about going down that same path and interested in what you
learn about B&G and Garmin chartplotters.  Both have wireless capability
with ipad control, which is very attractive.  It'd be ideal to play with
each for a while.  My only experience with B&G is adding a Triton Display on
my Garmin network (replaced 1 of 3 Garmin GMIs).   Seamless integration,
very good functionality and easy to use once you learn the quirks.  

I also have a Raymarine autopilot w/display on the network.  Marginal at
best.  

Good luck and stay in touch on this.


-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Coleman via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 10:19 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Latest Chartplotters

I was wondering if anyone on the list has, or has had occasion to use one of
the new Chartplotters by B&G or Garmin with the Laylines, compass rose, etc,
that look like the overlays on the latest Americas cup.  Particularly the
Zeus Touch T8, now on sale for $807 I still have an RC-80 Raymarine which
works fine, but all these new features, plus many, many more make my knees
go weak.

Any Comments?

Another observation, I notice that Defender has nothing from Garmin anymore.
I wonder if they pulled their plug for not playing by the rules and selling
below their "suggested" prices. ?

Bill Coleman
C&C 39



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Re: Stus-List Latest Chartplotters.

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Per Garmin Tech Support and to  clarify Bill’s comment below.  Garmin’s units 
with Wifi built in do not require the $200 adaptor kit. 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson 
via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 11:13 AM
To: Bill Coleman; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Latest Chartplotters.

 

Bill,

 

Wifi is built into the Ray for the Ray phone/tablet apps.  Not for a laptop.

I agree the old Ray stuff was not user-friendly, but the current stuff really 
is!

Let us know what you select.

 

Joel

35/3

Annapolis

 

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Lots of great info, thanks to all for their input.

In reading the manuals many things become more clear.

Garmin is a little more forthright in acknowledging that you need to pony up 
another 200 for a wifi module, and 300 for radio, 

Had to dig a little deeper in the Zeus to find that out. I am puzzled why they 
don’t build wifi in, it is in my dashcam and that is tiny and cheap.

It looks to me that it IS built into the e7 Raymarine, can anyone clarify that?

On the pictures of the back of the Zeus 8 it has Simrad molded into the case, 
so I guess that is what it really is.

The reason I had not considered the Raymarine is that after going from a 
Garmin, which I consider very intuitive, the Ray was confounding, and poorly 
thought out, at least the RL-80.

They seem to be making much nicer stuff now, especially since Jeppeson  
acquired them.

JF, do you know if my Raymarine Autopilot will work seamlessly with the Zeus?  
It is 0183, the MKII around 10 years old.

And thanks to Fred for the Garmin offer.

 

 

Bill Coleman

C&C 39

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of 
Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 8:01 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Latest Chartplotters.

 

My response to Chuck got scrubbed again.. I need to stop trying to send from 
the phone... 

Here goes:  

The laylines are not necessarily set at any particular angle.. That's the 
genius of it. It analyzes how you are pointing / running relative to apparent 
wind speed, current, tides, direction, wind shifts, and boat speed then does 
the trigonometry for the layline angle that gives the optimal tack / jibe point 
to max-out your vmg to waypoint.

During that race I followed it precisely, gained 2 tacks over 5 miles.. 

Sent from IBM Notes Traveler

Chuck S --- Re: Stus-List Latest Charplotters --- 


From:

"Chuck S" 


To:

"Jean-Francois J Rivard" , "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" 



Date:

Sat, Jan 31, 2015 2:01 PM


Subject:

Re: Stus-List Latest Charplotters

 

  _  


That zeus sounds interesting.Would be nice to have the laylines.  Are they 
set at 45 dgrees?  Can you set them lower?

Chuck
Regards


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François Rivard

 4111 Northside Pkwy, Nw




Big Data Black Belt

 Atlanta, 30327-3015


IBM Sales & Distribution, Software Sales

 Usa


Mobile:

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Re: Stus-List Handheld VHF with DSC

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Help me understand the original requirement;  Is it to have DSC on the
vessel and it can be either a fixed or handheld radio? Or is it handheld
only?  

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bina
via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 5:59 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handheld VHF with DSC

 

The HX851 has GPS and it floats. 

 



Bill Bina

On 2/21/2015 5:57 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:

Personally, I'd pop extra $$ for the new HX870.  It floats and has built in
GPS.  If I'm in the water, I'd want the thing broadcasting my location.

Dennis C.

 

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List
 wrote:

All, 

 

Found out that the local racing authority, CBYRA, will require a handheld
VHF with DSC this season.

 

Looking at a Standard Horizon HX851 Handheld VHF Radio with GPS from
theGPSStore for $125.00

 

Any reason I should not buy this unit?

 

35/3

The Office

Annapolis

Joel 
301 541 8551   

 

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Re: Stus-List Handheld VHF with DSC

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Thanks, Russ.  I got that part.   Just trying to understand if CBYRA is
following both US Safety Requirements 3.8.1 and 3.8.2.  

 

 

 

 

From: Russ & Melody [mailto:russ...@telus.net] 
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 8:25 PM
To: Pete Shelquist; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handheld VHF with DSC

 

Hi Pete,

Here's the original message:



All, 
Found out that the local racing authority, CBYRA, will require a handheld
VHF with DSC this season.
Looking at a Standard Horizon HX851 Handheld VHF Radio with GPS from the
GPSStore for $125.00
Any reason I should not buy this unit?
35/3

Joel 


so far the HX851 @ $125 looks like a deal

Try to keep up eh. :)

Cheers, Russ

At 06:06 PM 21/02/2015, you wrote:



Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
 boundary="=_NextPart_000_004E_01D04E11.DA72C6B0"
Content-Language: en-us

Help me understand the original requirement;  Is it to have DSC on the
vessel and it can be either a fixed or handheld radio? Or is it handheld
only?  
 
 
 
From: CnC-List [ mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
 ] On Behalf Of Bill Bina via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 5:59 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handheld VHF with DSC
 
The HX851 has GPS and it floats. 

 
 <
http://www.standardhorizon.com/indexVS.cfm?cmd=DisplayProducts
 &ProdCatID=85&ProdID=1558&DivisionID=3
 >

Bill Bina

On 2/21/2015 5:57 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:

Personally, I'd pop extra $$ for the new HX870.  It floats and has built in
GPS.  If I'm in the water, I'd want the thing broadcasting my location.

Dennis C.

 

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List
 wrote:

All, 

 

Found out that the local racing authority, CBYRA, will require a handheld
VHF with DSC this season.

 

Looking at a Standard Horizon HX851 Handheld VHF Radio with GPS from
theGPSStore for $125.00

 

Any reason I should not buy this unit?

 

35/3

The Office

Annapolis

Joel 

301 541 8551   

 
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Re: Stus-List Handheld VHF with DSC

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Gary – 

I’ve been digging for the information you referenced on “purchased” after 
1/1/15.  Can you send me a link for that?  

 

Thanks,

Pete

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary 
Nylander via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 12:33 PM
To: Joel Aronson; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handheld VHF with DSC

 

Joel, I checked with our CBYRA rep and was told that CBYRA is not the 
authority, it is PHRF of the Chesapeake. And I looked at the PHRF web site and 
it states that if the handheld is PURCHASED after 1/1/15, then it must have the 
DSC capability.

 

Gary

St. Michaels

- Original Message - 

From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List   

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 

Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 2:22 PM

Subject: Stus-List Handheld VHF with DSC

 

All, 

 

Found out that the local racing authority, CBYRA, will require a handheld VHF 
with DSC this season.

 

Looking at a Standard Horizon HX851 Handheld VHF Radio with GPS from 
theGPSStore for $125.00

 

Any reason I should not buy this unit?

 

35/3

The Office

Annapolis

Joel 
301 541 8551

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Re: Stus-List Auto helm and Raymarine

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Well that's pretty clear.  You Raymarine guys got it going on.

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick
G Street via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 9:48 AM
To: Bradley Lumgair; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Auto helm and Raymarine

 

Hi, Brad.  In a previous life, I was a certified Raymarine dealer/installer
and ABYC/NMEA-certified in marine electrical and electronics, so maybe I can
help out.

 

First off, yes, it was Autohelm, then Raytheon, then Raymarine; and
Raymarine went through several ownership iterations since, now being owned
by FLIR.

 

Because you've got the Autohelm autopilot, you won't be able to control the
pilot from the a95 (I'm assuming you meant little "a", not big "A", as
that's a different and older Raymarine series of MFDs); nor will you be able
to integrate it into the instruments.  They will need to be interface via
SeaTalkNG.

 

If you had a newer Raymarine wheelpilot like the ST4000, ST4000+ or newer,
you could interface it with the MFD and the instruments; but you would need
the SeaTalkNG to SeaTalk 1 converter kit to get everything to talk.

 

Email me off the list if I can help you further.

 


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

 

On Mar 2, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List
 wrote:





I'm trying to understand the whole auto helm thing and what works with what.
1985 C&C 33 with auto helm 4000, and Loran, obviously a problem. Purchased
Raymarine I50/I60 instrument package and A95 chartplotter (not delivered
yet) Spoke to a RayMarine rep at Toronto Boat Show who thought there
wouldn't be any issue hooking up and functioning, and the dealer I purchased
from spoke to Raymarine rep who said not likely, have to replace auto helm
as its too old (different language) I have no idea how old the autohelm is.
Is it "Autohelm" then "Raytheon" then "Raymarine" What is "seatalk" and does
that play into the language issue? Anyone have any experience with all this?
It's all new to me.
Thanks
Brad
C&C 33 MK II

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Stus-List stoves

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

I’m considering replacing the propane stove.  Any advice or strong opinions on 
make/model?

Thanks,

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Re: Stus-List Garmin Gwind

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Not personally, wish I did.  A number of boats in our area have them and
have spoken highly, especially at low air speeds.

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tom
Alessi via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 7:23 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Tom Alessi
Subject: Stus-List Garmin Gwind

 

Hey there,

Anybody have any experience with the Gwind wireless or Gwind cable
transducer?

 

Tom Alessi
ANDIAMO

C&C 36, 1980

Rockaway Beach, NY
tagraph...@optonline.net

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Re: Stus-List Solar charger selector switch

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Ryan – 

With the low voltage and amperage you’re dealing with, any double pole, double 
throw (DPDT) toggle switch should work.   Radio Shack (if they still exist), or 
other electronics store will have them.   Maybe a local hardware store?  

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Doyle 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 11:22 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Ryan Doyle
Subject: Stus-List Solar charger selector switch

 

Hey everyone, 

I have a small 6 watt Ganz solar panel which does a very nice job of keeping my 
starter battery and my house battery topped up.  The only trouble is, when I 
want to switch which battery I'm charging, I have to open the locker, open the 
battery box, disconnect the + and - connectors from one battery and switch them 
to the other.

My question is - is there some type of A/B switch that will allow me to just 
hook + and - from both batteries to it and select which battery gets the juice 
from the panel?

This is my solar charger.  It's a really great little piece of equipment. 
http://www.amazon.com/CBC-GSP-6-Flexible-Solar-Panel/dp/B006GFPF30/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8
 

 &qid=1459958952&sr=8-1&keywords=ganz+solar

 

 

Ryan

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Stus-List Western Lake Superior CnC Rendezvous

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Ok, I’ll jump on the band wagon…

 

Fred/Neil – want to meet at the Bayfield Creamery for a Western Lake Superior 
rendezvous?  I’ll buy the first round.   FYI - I hear 3-5” came down yesterday 
and a couple more due tomorrow.   

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of John 
Bousfield via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 6:41 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: John Bousfield
Subject: Re: Stus-List Lake Michigan CnC Rendezvous

 

Muskegon Yacht club might be a good place also.

John & Marjolein 

dutch girl

Spring Lake, MI

On Tuesday, April 5, 2016, wwadjo...@aol.com  wrote:

Any Lake Michigan listers interested in a LM meet up?  Pentwater Mi Would be 
central.  So would Wisconsin shore.  Just sayin' we can't let the coasters have 
all the fun!  

Bill Walker

Evening Star

CnC 36

Pentwater, Mi.

 

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Re: Stus-List Ground loop?

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Sounds like the PO may have been misinformed, or overly cautious, and figured 
more is better.  

 

Someday will someone explain to me the concept/theory of a ground loop?  I’m 
looking at you Fred.

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ken Heaton 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 5:59 PM
To: cnc-list
Cc: Ken Heaton
Subject: Re: Stus-List Ground loop?

 

Did the boat ever have a shortwave radio?

 

Was a previous owner afraid of a lightning strike?

 

Just guessing.

 

Ken H.

 

On 7 April 2016 at 18:20, Ryan Doyle via CnC-List  wrote:

Hey everyone, 

I am in the home stretch of re-wiring my entire boat.  The wiring was in 
frightening shape when I bought it back in October - much of it was corroded 
and probably original, and there were numerous "bad fixes" that I didn't like 
the looks of.  So, I ripped it all out and started anew with a whole bunch of 
Ancor marine wire, a BlueSea panel, BlueSea fuse blocks, and went about 
re-wiring.

All negative wires connect back to the nut at the back of my A4 motor, which is 
also connected to my battery negatives.  All good.

However, there is one large gauge (maybe 10 gauge?) old wire going from the nut 
on the back of my A4 to a nut attached to a metal plate that is attached to the 
outside of the hull.  This metal plate is located slightly forward and to 
starboard of the front of the A4.  Another wire coming from the nut over this 
metal plate is also connected to a keel bolt.

I don't see this plate or wire on the original C&C wiring diagram for the boat. 
 And from what I know, having more than one negative point outside the hull 
will create a ground loop.  

Any thoughts on why someone did this?  

Thanks, 

Ryan

Nobody's Bargain

1976 C&C 30 mki

New York

 


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Re: Stus-List Interior cushions

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Paul - 
Every few years I take the covers off and wash them.  Also spray the foam to
reduce odor.  Biggest issue is sometimes the zippers break during the
pull-off process and I take the piece over to the local shop to repair.

Someday I will replace the foam and covers, just not this day.  Too many
other priorities.  

There's nothing wrong with making due.



-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of paul
taylor via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2016 12:14 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: paul taylor
Subject: Stus-List Interior cushions

I have a 1977 29-1, original cushions. Does anyone know if the cushions can
be washed without shrinkage ?
I was thinking of washing them in an industrial washer with the foam inside.


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Re: Stus-List Dry ice in ice box? 1988 C&C MK II 30"

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Ditto, especially for long offshore.  Careful, it will freeze your beer.
The box can handle the low temperatures without cracking.  If concerned,
figure out a way to keep the ice from direct contact with the box.

 

With regard to carbon dioxide build up;  the volume of CO2 would have to
fill the icebox and then spill over into the cabin area.  With the amount of
air moving through boat on any typical day, it's highly likely to flush out
a good % of the CO2 .

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David via
CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 1:57 PM
To: CNC CNC
Cc: David
Subject: Re: Stus-List Dry ice in ice box? 1988 C&C MK II 30"

 

We have used it offshore to augment 12v refrig to keep battery consumption
down.   Never had a problem.   

David F. Risch
1981 40-2
(401) 419-4650 (cell)



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Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 14:37:57 -0400
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Dry ice in ice box? 1988 C&C MK II 30"
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
CC: primeinter...@gmail.com

Very bad idea inside a boat. As it sublimates it will replace the oxygen in
the lowest parts of the boat ... i.e. the living area.

Ed 

QCYC Toronto

On May 4, 2016 2:29 PM, "Lorne Serpa via CnC-List" 
wrote:

Will the ice box handle dry ice? I know that for everyday cooler that you
take to the beach they're not designed for the extra low temperature of dry
ice.


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Stus-List Raymarine autopilot for sale

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Anyone want to buy my old autopilot?  

 

. Raymarine smart pilot x30 - good for boats <= 33,000 lbs 

. ST6002 display

. smart talk converter e221581104455

. Raymarine wired auto helm remote 

. $900 total w/10% to Stu's List

Only thing you need to buy is the ram.

 

Full disclosure:  I was having problems with unit last fall.  I sent the
SPX-30 controller into Raymarine and it tested out ok, so I suspect it was
the ram tripping out.  I replaced everything this winter and was never able
to determine the exact fault.

 

Capacity wise this unit is bigger than the current Evo-200 unit (24,000 lb
vessel and $2000 retail).  I oversized the unit for my boat to compensate
for any aggressive marketing on Raymarine's part and to have a little factor
of safety.  

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Stus-List solar windex light

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Joel – 

I’m very interested in something like that.   Let me know what happens.

 

Thanks,

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson 
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:50 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Joel Aronson
Subject: Re: Stus-List Wiring windex light to running lights [C&C 34]

 

 Local LED vendor is supposed to be making me a solar powered LED windex light 
with. Photocell.  We'll see if he does.

 

Joel



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Re: Stus-List LMPHRF Certificates

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

They mailed out the first batch a month or so ago, but for some reason only 
half actually delivered.  They resent the whole batch last week. If you don't 
see something soon, call your local rep. 

Sent from Outlook on my iPhone




On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 1:38 PM -0700, "William Walker via CnC-List" 
 wrote:












Glenn, 

  Got mine in early May.  Sent in to lmphrf in January.  They are historically 
slow.   Where on the lake are you?

Bill Walker

CNC 36

Pentwater, Mi
On May 20, 2016 3:15 PM, Glenn via CnC-List  wrote:




LMPHRF Listers,
 
Have you received your LMPHRF Certificate for 2016 yet?  I applied during early 
February and still have not received my certificate.  Would appreciate any 
comments.  E-mailed LMPHRF, but have received no response yet.
 
Glenn Gambel
C&C 36
Wind N Spirits




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Re: Stus-List solar windex light

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Joel – 

Any updates on this?

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson 
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:50 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Joel Aronson
Subject: Re: Stus-List Wiring windex light to running lights [C&C 34]

 

 Local LED vendor is supposed to be making me a solar powered LED windex light 
with. Photocell.  We'll see if he does.

 

Joel

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Re: Stus-List Battery charger getting warm

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Dan - 

This may be an indication that your batteries are shot.  The charger is
working to give them a juice and they're just not having it.   Take a look
at them before you change your charger.But also look for loose
connections.

 

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Russ &
Melody via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 11:10 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Russ & Melody
Subject: Re: Stus-List Battery charger getting warm

 


Hi Danny,

I like how you find it goes grey, most of your fellows call it gray. :)

Anyhow, the meter pegs over 30 amps, let's say 35 for this discussion... and
at 15 volts we're looking at something near 500 watts to the batteries. If
it's a 90 percent efficient battery charger then it has to dump 50 watts or
so into the surroundings.

For perspective and giggles, turn on a 40 watt light bulb and see how long
you can hang on to it. Yow!

A machine at 160 F, you can touch but not hold your hand on for very long,
180 F is tolerable for less than a second. From your description, I suggest
the battery charger is operating around 150 F if you can put pressure on it
with your hand. That is not a worry if it's like that for a few hours. I am
also assuming ambient cooling (no fan).

Cheers, Russ
Sweet 35 mk-1


At 05:20 PM 21/06/2016, you wrote:



Hi guys, 
When I turn the battery charger on it greys very warm.   The Guage pins all
the way past 30 amps.

It is not too hot to touch but too hour to hold your hands on for very long.
The batteries are not warm and seem to have taken some charge over a couple
hours. 

It's this normal?   I don't like that heat...

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Re: Stus-List Fan Frustration!

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Or set the fan in the front hatch. Have it pull air from the boat and exhaust 
out. Little less noise in the boat and it pulls air through the whole boat. 

Sent from Outlook on my iPhone




On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 12:00 PM -0500, "Bill via CnC-List" 
 wrote:















This probably sounds stupid, but I use a 20" home window fan 
(120 VAC) on the inverter. Put the fan kiddy-cornered over the hatch, and still 
can use the screen on the inside. Runs quiet and all night with minimum strain 
on the batteries.
 
Sets up a nice breeze through the boat.
 
The only problem is if it rains
 
Bill
 
MYSTY
1986 Landfall 39
 

In a message dated 6/29/2016 9:11:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com writes:

  
  

I 
  traded the big fan for another one that is quiet. I tried several of the 
small 
  ones and they all vibrate like a washing machine with a heavy load on one 
side 
  L
  

Joe
  

Coquina
  

NOTE 
  TO SELF – NEVER buy a fan without testing in the store
  

 
  
  !





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Re: Stus-List Landfall 35 Bow Assembly

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

James – 

I had to pull the one on my 37 two years ago.  Hard part is reaching up 
underneath to undo the nuts.  I also had to use some heat to get the pulpit 
out.  Local place sandblasted and powder coated the new one.

 

Are you doing toe rails too?

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of JAMES 
LEMESURIER via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 3:27 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: JAMES LEMESURIER
Subject: Stus-List Landfall 35 Bow Assembly

 

Has anyone had occasion to remove the bow assembly from a Landfall 35?   PO 
painted the one on my boat an unsightly brown (see photo at link below) and I 
would like to remove it in the fall, have it sandblasted and powder coated.  
Before I start the task, I would like to understand what is involved.

 

http://s312.photobucket.com/user/Techmaint/media/SISU/20120726_191006.jpg.html

 

James LeMesurier
Landfall 35- SISU

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Re: Stus-List Wednesday Night racing - now scoring systems

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

All -

For your local races, how many use PHRF vs ORC or other?  TOT vs TOD?

 

Thanks,

 



 

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Re: Stus-List Singing Rigging

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

If you have an adjustable backstay, that's probably the easiest way to
change tension in the rig and remove resonance.  The hum we get is usually
the forestay and this takes care of it nicely.

Pete
C&C37 
Celebration


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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Christian Tirtirau
Subject: Stus-List Singing Rigging

Hello fellow seers,
I'm getting this humming in the mast as soon as I have a little breeze while
on the mooring ball and it's really annoying. At first I thought it was a
generator or an engine sound propagated by water but I realized it's the
strings of this big violin that are singing. Any idea how you get rid of
that without messing up the rig balance? Is it the baby stay? I have a lower
that is a little loose and when I tension it the sound pitch changes but
does not go away.
Cheers,
Christian Tirtirau
C&C 37 Northern Light

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Re: Stus-List Plumbing Related

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Did it fix the original problem?

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Recently, on port tack, my 'head bowl' was filling and overflowing with sea
water.wasn't completely sure whether it was a faulty 'choker valve'  or
the valve in the 'shut off' leverhad to be one or the other, probably a
faulty valve in the 'shut off' switch.

Trip to Binnacle to check out possible solutions to the problem.simplest
way to address it was to get a whole new Jabsco pump assembly for $100.

One hour labor in total install new pump. disconnect 3 hoses from old
pump, 4 screws in the base, screw new pump into place, connect the 3
hoses.one of the easiest boat jobs I have experienced.

FYi for anyone having a similar problem.

Rob Abbott

AZURA

C&C 32 - 84

Halifax, N.S.



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Stus-List Raymarine Autopilot and accessories for sale

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

I have a Raymarine autopilot and accessories for sale.  Ref link to ad and
note the OBO.  

 

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/bpo/5702048189.html 

 

thanks,

 

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Stus-List jackline use

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

This is interesting subject for me:  I’ve been told to twist the jacklines and 
to keep them flat.  Twisted I’ve found they have a tendency to roll under your 
feet.  

 

Just curious what others do.   

 

 

 

 

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A couple of tips: Jacklines should be twisted so they don't lie flat on the 
deck. Makes them easier to pick up. And they should be as tight as practical; 
if they're loose, they will tend to bind as your carabiner runs along them.

 

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Re: Stus-List Raymarine exits the instrument, vhf and autopilot business!

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You raymarine guys kill me.  Defend it to the end and drag others down when 
it's obvious that Ray falls short. I've been saying it for years: friends don't 
let friends buy raymarine. 
Dave/others; Per Garmin FAQ, Here's the solution if/when you decide to leave 
the raymarine dark side :
"The easiest way to update the device is to purchase a NMEA 2000 Network 
Updater and attach it to the NMEA 2000 network that the device is connected to. 
The updater will add an SD card slot to the NMEA 2000 network which will allow 
and update to be sent to the device. A blank SD card with at least 300MB up to 
2GB of space is also required.
To create the update SD card, please follow these instructions:
Download the latest update from the Marine Software Update Page to your 
desktopDouble-click the file on the desktopWhen the window titled Marine 
Product Software Update appears, click the Next buttonChoose the drive letter 
that is assigned to the SD card readerClick the Next buttonOnce the update is 
completed, click the Finish buttonTake the SD card and the NMEA 2000 Network 
Updater to the boat. To connect the NMEA 2000 Network Updater into the NMEA 
2000 network, please follow these instructions:
Connect the NMEA 2000 Network Updater's cable to the T-Connector it came 
withDisconnect two T-Connectors in the NMEA 2000 network on the boatConnect the 
Network Updater's T-Connector to both of the disconnected T-Connectors from 
step 2To update the NMEA 2000 network, power on the NMEA 2000 network and all 
accessories and insert the SD card into the NMEA 2000 Network Updater.
To know when the update is complete, please review the color of the LED on the 
NMEA 2000 Network Updater:
Red - Error, no card inserted, or no update on cardOrange - Update in 
progressGreen - Update completed successfullyOnce the update is complete, the 
SD card can be removed from the Updater and all Garmin NMEA 2000 connected 
devices and accessories will be up to date."
Boom. 


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On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 7:40 AM -0500, "Frederick G Street via CnC-List" 
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I think Dave’s gripe had more to do with upgrading things other than the MFD; 
things like instruments and autopilots.  And having to do those through an MFD 
from the same manufacturer.
I don’t think I’d want to be able to upgrade a Raymarine autopilot through a 
Garmin MFD; Garmin might just sabotage the process…   :^)


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI


On Sep 20, 2016, at 7:26 AM, Paul Fountain via CnC-List  
wrote:
My ray eS7 does the same …… Paul FountainPerception II1985 C&C 33-II k/cbPort 
Credit Yacht Club From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On 
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Raymarine exits the instrument, vhf and autopilot 
business! My Garmin GPSMap 740 plotter uses a SD Card to update firmware after 
downloading the file to the SD card from a computer which in turn gets the file 
from the internet. MikePersistenceHalifax, NS





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Stus-List for sale

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

 

I have a number of items for sale.  Prices below…OBO + shipping;

 

*   Raymarine smart pilot x30: $400
*   ST6002 display: $200
*   smart talk converter e221581104455: $25
*   Raymarine wired auto helm remote  $25
*   Raymarine fluxgate compass $25
*   Two Barient 28:  $225 total
*   Datamarine speed/distance display: $50
*   Datamarine wind direction/speed display $50
*   Datamarine depth display: $50
*   Datamarine wind vane: $50
*   Horizon RamMic: $50
*   Datamarine controller:  $50
*   Datamarine speed/depth transducer: $50
*   Selden 87mm Alum bowsprit kit: $350

 

Images here:  
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8fIqcyBwH7nYmdxTFVCVmk5UEE?usp=sharing 

 

 

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Stus-List c&c 37

[pete shelquist via CnC-List]

The Trans-Superior race is starting this weekend in Sault Ste Marie, Ont and 
finishes in Duluth MN.  http://www.transsuperior.com/ .   

 

A new entrant this year is Mac McKenzie and his C&C37, Worthy Pearl, out of 
Etobicoke, On.  Anyone on the list know him or the boat?  It’s great to see 
more competitors traveling up our way for this race.

 

thanks

 

 

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Stus-List Nexus Race

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Anyone run Nexus Race?  And tie in with instruments?



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Re: Stus-List Handicapping Sprite and/or pole. Was Adding asym sail/sprit to C&C 36

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

FWIW- I have a selden sprit for sale if anyone is interested.   
Email me for details. 



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On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 8:50 AM -0600, "Charles Nelson via CnC-List" 
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In NC-PHRF, you get a single rating which is based on your largest 
headsail/fastest kite with penalties if you have a sprit, oversized kite/jib > 
155%, etc. and independent of race configuration (W-L, distance, etc.). If you 
choose not to race with your largest jib or your biggest kite, your rating 
remains the same.FWIW and as others have mentioned, your local handicapping 
organization determines how these issues are handled.
Charlie Nelson1995 C&C XL/kcbWater Phantom

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Hi Chuck


 


I think that is a question you will have to ask your area handicap association. 
 In our area (Nova Scotia) and I believe in most other areas you make a single
 declaration of inventory / rig for an entire season.  In Nova Scotia you would 
have to declare sprit/asym, pole/sym or both.  Many areas allow the use of an 
asym tacked centerline at bow in addition to standard pole/sym spinnaker with 
no penalty.  Adding the
 sprit in addition to the pole setup incurs penalty adjustments based on how 
long the Total Sprit Length is in relation to J.


 


On the other hand if you were planning to enter a distance race the committee 
for that race may allow you a different setup for that race or series.  That 
would
 likely be at the discretion of trace organizers


 


Mike


Persistence


Halifax, NS


 




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Eric,



Will PHRF allow you two ratings? One with the sprit and one with the pole? I'm 
considering adding a sprit and top down furler for single handed races.








On January 31, 2018 at 10:47 AM Eric Baumes via CnC-List 
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That is in place of a standard spin and pole. If you declare both Asym on sprit 
and Symmetrical on pole you will get a PHRF penalty.



 




Eric





 




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Stus-List Selden sprit for sale!

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

For sale:  Alum 87mm x 7.5ft. Selden sprit
Inboard pad eye and 2x outboard fittings (rings etc). You can haveall the extra 
hardware I had custom made. 
$450 obo + shipping


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Re: Stus-List Resleeving winches

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Mike - Lucky for you I have a pair of 28s for sale!



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My Barient 27’s are developing a lot of play.  The aluminum drums wearing badly 
(the inside, not the outside).

The rest of the winches are in great shape, gears, bearings, pawls.  I was 
wondering if anyone on the group has ever tried having a machine shop bore out 
the interior of the drum to accept a sleeve of aluminum or oilite bronze. I 
contacted Hutton Winches in Australia and they told me they do this service for 
$400/drum. Obviously, shipping 2 large winches to Australia and back would be 
out of the question.

Anyone had this done at a local machine shop?



Mike Amirault

C&C33ii Lovely Cruise

SMSC


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Re: Stus-List hydraulic backstay

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Dan- I have Sailtec backstay that is completely self contained. 
 The factory told me to bring it inside in the winter and store it vertically. 
Something to consider once yours is repaired. 



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On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 8:21 AM -0500, "Daniel Cormier via CnC-List" 
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Will do- thanks guys, I'm glad it's only a regular maintenance thing :)

Dan

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> On Mar 22, 2018, at 12:18 AM, Dan via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Hey everyone,
> I noticed that my hydraulic backstay was leaking a little hydraulic fluid 
> around the piston point - an indication that a seal inside probably needs 
> replacing... I noticed that over the winter most of the fluid has leaked out 
> and the backstay will no longer hold pressure. We've had temperatures as low 
> as -19 deg. Celcius here in Canada, just wondering if this leaking is normal 
> with a bad seal or is there more at play here with leaving my hydraulics 
> exposed to the harsh cold environment?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dan
> Breakaweigh
> C&C44
> Halifax, NS
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