Stus-List Wheel replacement C&C35 mk3

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

Hello listers after a year's sabbatical from this list.  My 35-3 has an
Edson 36" six-spoke flat wheel with 1" straight hub. (maybe all are same)

Here's a confession: I have suffered from wheel envy, and recently
purchased an old 44" Yacht Specialties wheel on ebay.   It has similar, but
not quite, same hub and keyway dimensions. The hole in the hub of the YS is
a tiny fraction smaller than Edson shaft. It will part-way fit, but the
diameter of the hub hole needs a shave.

Aside from just looking cool-er, (to me) I removed my 'camel hump' and sit
to the side of the helm and this refit will make steering really nice.

Anyone out there who might have switched wheels with any experience and/or
advice on who, where or how to get this a proper fit?  (I have an idea
and am searching for machine shops but wonder if there are some who have
done this)

Also...I might have a 36" Edson for sale if this works...

Chuck
Morning Sky C&C 35-3
Hessel, MI





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Stus-List Wheel replacement C&C35 mk3

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

Thanks all for info and perspectives on the retro-wheel-fit.  Chuck G,
thanks for the Edson help.  The ebay pic showed the wheel on an Edson ped
but you may be right on with the metric possibility.  I will not modify the
hub shaft. I will toy around with the wheel.   I have an additional Edson
shaft (changed it out to accept a new raymarine autopilot) I will take them
both to a shop...

Thanks again.

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Stus-List Vessel Documentation

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

Greetings from frozen north...

I have not permanently displayed my USCG vessel documentation numbers in my
cabin.  If anyone is documented, do you have advice, suggestion, experience
and/or pics you could share for doing this?  I have seen some poor
examples, and am puzzled as to where to display these on my 35 mk3?  Help?
Thanks!!


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Stus-List vessel documentation

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

I found this on another listserv, and wonder about the link to some
discussion about the exterior nameplate?  I like the look of this, and will
explore other like-type engraved options and report back.  This just looks
cool...even in the bilge!!

http://shop.sailboatowners.com/prod.php?50682


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Stus-List Vessel Documentation

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

We had a wait of approx. 3 months when we applied for our documentation
transfer after purchasing Morning Sky (new name).  We received a letter
from USCG verifying the pending app date of submission and expected wait
 time.  Shortly after receiving that letter, we were stopped by LOCAL
sheriff patrol for not having MI registration numbers, and showed them the
letter...which sufficed for their particular curiosity that day.

Having the letter on board denoting when you applied, and the "sorry for
the wait..." intent of the letter helped us avoid any citation...at least
for those guys on that day.

Cheers!  cs


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Stus-List Cruising chute tack

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

Ok...the thermometer just hit 30 and I'm all in thinking about getting the
boat chores done...

So a question:  I purchased a new asymmetrical cruising chute last year.
Of you experts out there with cruisin' chutes...what is your arrangement
for securing the tack at the bow of the boat?  Years ago, with hank-on
sails, wire forestay and a downhaul with single snapshackle to forestay, I
could attach the chute to the forestay easily, and actually tack with the
chute going under the forestay (old Columbia 26-2).

I have seen the tacking sleeve used on some boats, and certainly have a
regular and whisker poles, but are there other creative ways to attach and
rig a cruising chute on a 35-3 or others?  Thanks in advance for keeping my
spring hallucinations going...

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Stus-List Boom vanging...

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

Here's another post to get some experience-based advising.  I am looking to
purchase a rigid boom vang to replace the topping lift (damn thang) which
is always in the way of everything.   I will also replace the blocks/line I
have as manual vang. Tangs are built-in on the boom and mast base. I don't
want hydraulics, but wonder who can recommend which vang/size and other
considerations (vendor, etc) based on your purchase/use of them.

There is Forespar, Garhauer, Boomkicker, etc.  Some are less expensive but
appear the same.  Thoughts?




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Stus-List FM antenna?

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

Quick survey:  What are y'all using for FM antenna?  I have Bluetooth,
Auxiliary inputs, iPad, GoFree (B&G Chartplotter), marina WiFi, Pandora,
and nice, new speakers.  Wired for sound, I brag...

But I want to listen to good ol' FM radio sometimes, and have issues with
the single line antenna output stuffed into the back of my electro-locker.
Seems in the UP of Michigan, radio is sorta sparse, but pretty good!!  Top
of mast seems optimal, but unsure of space and interference???  What and
where are you mounting something and getting best reception??

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Straits area...
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Stus-List FM antenna?

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

You experts are the best!  I am ordering a Shakespeare antenna
splitter...as it appears that will be a very cheap but effective addition.
The FM receiver is 6" away from the VHF and the whole idea makes sense.
Will report in May when it gets installed.  Thanks guys!!

Now...has anyone replaced the indicator lights on the electrical panel (red
incandescents) with LED or similar?  My little lenses have either been
bonked and freed up to fall into the abyss of the liner (and two are now
missing).  Any advising out there?

(Yes, someday there will be a topic I might have advice to provide too...oh
well...)


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C$C 35-3

Snowbound near the Straits...
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Stus-List Lightning protection by design?

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

Hello gang. Thinking of warm weather and reading the great article on
lightning protection by Glen Miller (thank you whoever sent the link).  I
could absorb most of the intent, although some of the detail was a little
over my head. One of the most critical points he made was to connect the
mast to the keel for lightning to smoothly exit, and maintain other avenues
for exit as well (chain plates, etc.).  Here is the site again:

http://waeshael.com/waeshael.com/Propane_and_Lightning_files/Lightning.pdf

Now here is the question.  My 35-3 has a keel bolt directly under the mast,
and the mast is stationed within an aluminum tray.  Direct metal to metal
contact.  So...by design, is this already a head start on proper grounding?
My keel, (like everyone else's?) has a thin sheath of glass around the
metal of the keel, but does this suffice?  Hm...should I feel safer?

Seems the chainplates and toerail need connecting to ground, but did C&C
design help us out here? I always approached this topic with confusion, and
trying to get it figured out...



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Somewhere in the Straits...
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Re: Stus-List Salon Lighting (Ron Ricci)

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

I've replaced all my fluorescent T-5 bulbs with LEDs that fit in the old
bulb receivers.  Bought em online at mingsmark.com for about $20.  Really
happy with the change.  They have a section for RV and marine, so have
purchased other stuff too.

Chuck Saur
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St Ignace
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Stus-List wind data snafu

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

Hello gang...just got to boat and wind data and depth was gone on my B&G
IS40 system.  I checked connection to backbone and all tight.  Now here is
the first suspect issue:   when I disconnect the connector from the
cups/vane to the backbone,  the depth data is displayed correctly.  Plug
the wind instrument back in, and poof!  Depth data displays no data again.

Sounds suspiciously like a problem with my generator on the sending unit?
But why when I connect it again, the depth data is lost.  All else
(autopilot, Triton 7 Chartplotter, engine, etc) is functioning properly.

We had thunderstorms in the area this week...hope not connected with
lightning!!??

Anyone up to  pointing me in a direction?


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Re: Stus-List 1983 C&C 35 mark 3 new purchase

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Wow...almost missed a chance to brag about my boat?!!  I've been trying to
cruise the Grand Traverse area of Lake Michigan, and got weathered in.
Heading to Charlevoix tomorrow, then hopefully home to St Ignace.   Great
week if it were October!!

My 35-3 is a 1985, and just love the boat.  Never a problem, until now.
Check the rear shaft seal on the transmission.  Mine developed a leak, and
although no apparent damage, need to have it fixed.  Apparently a potential
issue on 30+ year old boats, so check engine oil and tranny levels and in
the bilge for drips!  This is a boat that draws admiring dockwalkers
wherever we go, and even once had a ziplock bag with a "I would like to
purchase if for sale" note inside!   Never before had an issue with
anything mechanical or rig, but consistently upgrading helps.
Congratulations on your boat purchase(s).


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Stus-List Closed the deal

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

Congrats on the purchase, Neil!  My 35-3 is in UP...but I live a fairly
itinerant lifestyle between Hessel and Grand Rapids.  Not sure where you
are, but send me a note offline if you want to chat/swap.  I have stuff and
stories.  cs


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Stus-List Stove

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

Neil, all, I am searching for a good stainless PROPANE oven/stove for my
35-3.  I tired of multiple attempts at torching my boat with the alcohol
model and de-fused the beast.   If yours (or anyone else?) is propane, in
good shape, and is for sale, could you let me know please?  Thanks!


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Stus-List Reinstalling plexi windows...again.

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

Happy spring??  I recall someone commented on priming and/or painting the
smoke-tint plexiglass edge areas,  prior to installing, to hide the the VHB
and Dow 795, so all does not show through the smoke plexi against the white
cabin side along those edge areas.

I have the window dug out, whew, and cleaned up with Mechanica silicone
remover and mineral spirits.  I actually lost only three patches of knuckle
skin. I have also sanded the receiving perimeter of the plexi where it will
make contact with the tape and/or paint.

I could not find the mention of the painting step in the archive.  Has
anyone painted this and have advice?  I purchased a can of Krylon High-bond
plastic paint in flat black. It's waiting in the barn...  Thoughts?


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Stus-List Traveler fit?

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Hello from frozen Michigan.  I am still spending my kids' inheritance on
deck hardware.

Question for 35-3 owners or others:  Has anyone replaced the aging Schaefer
main traveler?  What advice might you offer...Defender has a sale on Lewmar
traveler kits, size 2 which would offer enough capacity for us.  But...I am
not at the boat, and wonder if the aluminum traveler bridge that houses the
current track will allow the change to Lewmar?  Appears that the
car-mounted cam cleats might be obstructed by the bridge "tray" height in
the mid-section.  The Lewmar track appears lower in the pictures.  Current
Schaefer setup has outboard mounted cam cleats.
Any advice on replacement traveler selection?

PS...Ice fishermen are still driving trucks to shanties on Hessel Bay. Yech.


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Stus-List 37/40 recommendations?

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Happy summer!  I'm wondering if y'all have opinions/wisdom to share about
the basic C&C 37/40?  Wing keel...5'3" draft specifically.

Might be time for my son to take over my 35-3 if I can find the right boat.

Thoughts?


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Stus-List Old B&G Focus instrument heads

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

Happy Labor Day week!  New boat (for me) and working to upgrade nav
station, so I have three B&G Focus instruments...AWI/speed...Depth...and an
apparent "master controller dial" (did not find much information on my
brief Google search).  They were mounted inside the nav station and are in
perfect shape.

Would rather they get used...make an offer that at least covers shipping?


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Stus-List Need sails...

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Hello listers...

I recently purchased a 37+ and wondering if anyone has gently used sails
they would part with?  Still a month of heavier air up here in Mackinac,
and current sails a bit big, light, and  too much for my shorthanded crew.
Would like #2 and #3 but open to other ideas. Check those big unidentified
lumps in the basement for me, eh?
Thanks!!


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Stus-List years a C&C owner

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This topic is fascinating from two perspectives for me:  First, how loyal
and long-term the owners seem to be, and second, the stories about the
boats and families who own them!

I purchased my first C&C 35-3 Morning Sky (ex Pegusus) in Charlevoix, MI in
January 2013.  Had her painted, and over the past 6 years have re-rigged
and upgraded most everything. My son bought her this summer when I
purchased my 37+ Daydream (ex Obsession).  She'll undergo some upgrades as
well, as I continue to make poor financial decisions and spend my sons'
inheritance...

Prior to that, we owned an S-2, a Columbia and a fleet of small boats.  We
always lost races back in the 80's to the C&C guys, and now we understand!

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Stus-List Painting pedestal

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Happy fall to all...
I have disassembled most of the Edson pedestal on my new-to-me 37+ to
replace the brake, replace the guard, install a new pod, do some rewiring,
and lube and inspect steering.  So now I want to paint the old faded black
with a new shiny gloss white.  I would rather do this in place, not
removing the ped.   I'm fairly adept in the fine art of masking tape. The
old black powder coat is intact, sandable and prime-able.

I had the pedestal powder coated on my old 35-3 and loved the results, but
am exploring painting this one.

My question for the list-er collective expertise is what paint and/or
procedure would you recommend for this task?  Anyone try this?

And additional thanks for recommending the idler wheel/bottom plate
checkup.  All is fine.  Thanks!!




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Stus-List Air conditioner placement

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Ok all you 37+ guys...the mirror discussion sparked a thought:  I have air
conditioner installation located in aft cabin hanging locker, and would
like to move it to have the storage.  The space under the companionway is
open.  I'm thinking I could install AC unit in the space below companionway
steps.  This would allow a forward-facing air duct, and if the mirror were
shortened in the aft cabin, an aft-facing duct just over the engine
compartment.

In Michigan's UP, this might just be enough to keep cool on BOTH of those
warm days. Anyone with some creative experience and/or ideas?


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Stus-List Fastening Jib Sheets

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Hey gang...snow here and need a diversion.  I'm surfing for deals on line
for my jib (genoa) sheets, and wondered if there is anything new or
improved anyone is doing when tying on the sheets.  I''ve been using the
ol' bowline...but have used the butterfly (I think that's what a loop on a
continuous line is called).  I have heard of using Dyneema...lightweight
shackles...etc.  Anyone have some cool experience/suggestions?


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Stus-List Cleat covers

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Good chat on both the jib fastening (I am ordering soft shackles and sheets
soon) and cleat covers...which brings up another dilemma with my rig:  My
halyards run to stoppers on top of cabin, and my genoa (roller furled) is
seldom changed, and typically for a race.

I wonder if anyone has either installed a mast-located stopper or camcleat,
and line-receiver bag to get the halyard off the cabin top? This would
eliminate a "horned" cleat to foul, and be "convertible" to allow
re-rigging the halyard on cabin top for racing.  If so, what mast (or deck)
mounted stopper might be used, and how have you configured it?

Apparently, the cold and snow has caused my brain to shift into
catalog/PayPal mode...


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C&C 35-3
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Stus-List Cleat covers

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Thanks, Dennis!  Nice option...the "parking cleat" looks like something I
will consider.  I looked up the working load rating for the Harken 150 cam
cleat (required-and in my parts tub) and it's 300lbs.  Does anyone know the
loads for a 35-3 halyard at the mast for the cam cleat and base mount
turning blocks?  Seems like the upgrade to a Harken offshore (500 lbs
working load) might be ok?



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Stus-List Prop purchase

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Happy New Year sailors!  Made the mistake of visiting the boat this week.
I know this rekindles an older discussion...but do any of you 35-3 owners
have experience with purchase and performance of a Flex-O-Fold prop?  I
looked in archives and noted some intent to purchase this brand, but no
testimony or stated experience that I could find.

Putting together our wish list, and it includes new 110% jib, folding prop,
stoppers/organizers, mast-base blocks, main sheet blocks, batteries.  Gawd,
I need to win a lottery...

Discussion/testimony desired!!  It's cold here!


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C&C 35-3

In the shed till May...
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Stus-List Halyard replacement to Dyneema or similar

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Greetings...just 14 weeks till launch 2017!  I could not find listers'
advice/experience about changing SIZE of halyard line from current
wire/rope to  Dyneema blend (looking at 3/8 Samson MLX).  The halyard
sheaves appear to have enough width to handle 3/8 line; and understand the
sheaves need to be smooth to avoid chafe, which they appear to be.

Seems 3/8 MLX would have enough load capacity for each of the 3 halyards on
my 35-3.  Or...is there guidance to go up to a 7/16?

Anyone with opinion?


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Re: Stus-List Anyone need/want a really big wheel?

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

About a year ago, I had a problem with bigger-wheel envy and I asked the
list-perts here about a wheel I subsequently purchased on E-Bay.  It was
less than 1/16 too small for my Edson 1" shaft and had wheel reamed at a
local machine shop (as suggested here) to fit.  Went from a 36" to 44"
wheel on my 35-3.

Now the point:  Absolutely best move...other than looking "correct" to my
eye, I agree with everyone here about the functional upgrade.  Sailing is
much easier and more options to sit (I also removed the camel-hump).
Girlfriend would rather have the room afforded by the old wheel...so I
really like your link to the Edson rail-mounted storage clamp.  Thanks.



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Stus-List Solar Vent Fan on a 37/40+

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My experience:  When I purchased Morning Sky, the PO had installed solar
vents, one in the forward hatch, and other in the 12x17 hatch abaft of the
mast. (on my 35-3) Not a pretty solution, but appeared to work well, and
visitors commented that it didn't smell 'diesel-y'.  Also, in the summer,
it kept fairly cool in there!!   One vented in, the other exhausted out.

Two years ago, one of the solar vents died (intake), and after an attempted
resurrection I immediately purchased replacement.  Huge noticeable
difference with the dead second fan.  Would recommend this two-fan setup
for anyone.


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Stus-List Exterior Teak Varnish Recommendation?

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Our boatyard manager (graduate of Great Lakes School of Wooden
Boatbuilding) told me Cetol should be coated with at least 2 coats of
Captain's Varnish (or similar?).  Says Cetol finish by itself is too soft
for his liking.  Has worked great for me...


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Stus-List Best-est wax or other protectant

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

Spent some real quality boat time last week...using 1000 grit wet sandpaper
to de-oxidize my topsides (where there is no non-skid).  The process was
sand...buff with buffer/oxidation remover...seal with teflon polish...and
seal/shine with wax.  (Then a couple beers for the laborer...me!)

Given the time/effort/exertion factor of this,  I want to know what the
gang nominates as the very best, excellent wax or sealer for topsides? I
don't want to do this again.   I understand this is a topic filled with
past horrors and unfounded attribution...but what the hell.  So what's your
nomination for best uv inhibiting, oxidize-busting shine-keeper for the
topsides?


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Stus-List Best-est wax or other protectant

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Yikes!  Thanks, Bill.  Yes, my labeling jargon edit button was off.
Topsides on my boat sport AwlCraft, and only get the Awlgrip protectant.
The deck and cockpit have deserved attention, but are not bad.  I have read
that the sandpaper treatment is not an annual recommendation and I want to
preserve that best I can. There is still something counterintuitive about
even wet-sanding smooth fiberglass...

I did spend some of the kids' inheritance and bought Woody Wax to try on
non-skid.  We'll see how that turns out.  If anyone has experience with
that product, please share!?


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Stus-List Icebox conversion...

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

I recall discussion about this, but could not find the thread.

I'm looking into icebox conversion for spring, and wondering if anyone has
recommendations?  Not sure the advantages with water-cooled v. fan cooled,
except the heat buildup in the locker with compressor heated air.  Other
considerations?  Reliability? The obvious loss of valuable space in box for
cold plate...etc?  single v. dual power? (12 volt or 12/120 volt).  Would
really appreciate comment, and/or link to previous topic discussion.
Thanks...


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Stus-List Deck non-skid

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So...I'm looking at a hairline crack in non-skid portion of foredeck, right
at the seam where the foredeck ends and the trunk cabin begins.  Needs
attention, and thinking of creating a one-inch bright gelcoat "stripe" that
follows the contour of the forward edge of the cabin.  This would allow a
good fix without repainting the nonskid.  All exposed smooth gelcoat is
off-white (cabin sides, etc), and the non-skid is a whiter-white.  Hope
that adequately describes my dilemma...

The question:  Is the non-skid portion a paint the factory applied to the
gelcoat after set up in the mold?  Or is the non-skid area sprayed onto the
mold during the manufacturing process, and the silica added after?  Has
anyone sanded the non-skid to see what's under there?


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Stus-List List Butyl tape or is there something better?

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

I removed the companionway hood on Morning Sky (35-3) and resealed with
LifeSeal but wish I had used butyl.  The screws seemed adequate, as there
appears no big structural issues...but there is a shallow 'crease' around
the perimeter of the hood (not the drain gutters to port and starboard)
that I have covered with rigging tape each year, and am going to caulk this
year.  It just collects slime and water and sits.

Also, while I had the hood off, I noted the plexiglass slid directly on the
teak of the companionway, and there was some allowance for the installation
of a nylon plastic "cap" and still accept the thickness of the hatch
plexiglass, enabling it to glide really nice! Make sure the screws are
recessed into the nylon adequately.  Looks finished as well.

Also...I am replacing several of the hood screws with snap studs to work
with the bug screens and fabric hatch cover I'm currently making.  Won't
need to drill around the hatch.

Last...make sure you have clear unobstructed water drainage to the port and
starboard lateral gutters.  I had a bunch of gray gunk damming the flow of
water from the hatch.  Hope this experience helps...


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Stus-List Bilge Water Level

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>From experience- check the raw-water intake valve on your toilet (make sure
it's shut) and the sink drain in the head.  They only used single hose
clamps, (not double) on mine and short drain and intake cuffs. My loosened
and slipped out of place over time without notice...and water in bilge was
quick result.  Just another couple items for your troubleshooting
checklist.


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Stus-List Aqua Signal Lights on a 37+

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I just saw a sale at Defender on replacement lenses for Aqua Signal Series
41 side lights and stern light, and might be what I need to replace mine,
but am nowhere near the boat to see what model light I have.  I do know
they are Aqua Signal brand.  If you have them, is anyone able to check the
model number for 1990 37/40+ lights?  Would be a great help!!  Thanks

*Chuck Saur*

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Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 165, Issue 25

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Thanks for compiling this list, Edd.  Maybe you have stated this, but how
will this be used?  (Hopefully not for phonecalls revealing my vehicle
warranty has expired;-)


Name  Chuck Saur
Boat name Daydream
C&C Model  37+
C&C Year 1990
Sail number 4493
Email Address  cssau...@gmail.com
Home Port  Hessel, MI

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Stus-List Universal Diesel harness upgrade

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Hello from already snowy Michigan.
Seems the 1990 M-35 I have for power in my boat is, well, not really
designed well in the wiring department. I have read stuff describing it as
"dangerous" to "fatal" and worse.  There appear to be two related issues:
 First, that the harness is not capable of the loads to and from the
alternator, ammeter and starter, (plus glow plugs) and two, that the light
blue 'trailer harness' connectors fail and burn.  I've read several posts
at different websites, and a great fix explained here:
https://marinehowto.com/universal-diesel-engine-wiring-harness-upgrade/

I wonder who on our expert list has tackled this problem.  I am considering
fixing what I have, or purchasing a new gauge panel and all wiring. You can
do that from Catalina Direct and others.
Any experience or opinions from fellow Universal owners?



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Stus-List C&C 37+ -- Head Vented Loop?

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

Hello Edd...no vented loop on my 1990 37+.  I checked and can see the waste
hose enter the holding tank at the top of the tank.  Have not had
issues...yet!  If you choose to do that, let me know how you fit in into
the space there!

I did change out the entire pump assembly on a head rebuild last year, and
the joker valve now works fine.  Yuck.  I will keep a spare...cs


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Stus-List C&C 37+ -- Head Vented Loop?

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Edd...I had to disconnect and take the Y-valve out.  As I understand it,
you cannot have overboard discharge in the great lakes.  Perhaps the PO of
my boat did some earlier surgery...


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Re: Stus-List Instrument Cabling / Edson Pedestal Guard

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

Hello Edd from snowy Michigan.  I added a Navpod to my helm station last
year. Also installed new (taller) guard, chrome binnacle support/spreader,
primed and painted the old black, nasty faded pedestal white, and added new
decals...along with rebuilding the brake and lubing up the steering chain
and cables/pulleys.
There were two grommeted enter/exit holes in the front of the binnacle
where I snaked the wires from my Ray Axiom9 and auto pilot control head
through the guard, down to just below the compass, to exit the guard tube
and into the binnacle.  From there, running the wires down the binnacle and
into the port aft locker was easy.
I also really needed a compact drink holder in front of the helm, so I made
one out of PVC board and old smoked plexiglass left over from changing out
the cabin sidelights.  The drink holder effectively hides the wires with a
carefully field-engineered-placed receiver for my cockpit table (see where
the two horizontal boards are close together-the wires are tucked in
between), and also holds a cellphone or two along with up to 4 cold
beverages. (Bell's Oberon is the official boat beer of the summer;-).
Lastly, I velcro-ed the winch handle pockets to the sides.  Unobtrusive,
compact and functional.  We like it, at least.  I hope this pic works:

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Stus-List Need to replace forward hatch on 35 mkIII

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

On my former boat...a 1985 35-3, I am pretty sure the hatches were all
Bomar.  I have been watching this thread, and haven't seen Bomar mentioned.
Maybe mine was an oddity.  The other part I missed is whether or not this
is a hinge issue, lens or frame issue?  I just had the lens on my 37+
redone, and it is amazing. Can actually see out of it!  (Reinstalling the
hatch lid and new trim ring was a PITA, however)


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Stus-List Prop pitch help!

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Does any 37+ owner with a Universal M35 and maxprop feathering three blade
know their prop pitch?  Mine is set at 22 degrees but last year I could not
get beyond 5.5 knots.  PYI manual specs that pitch. It looks entirely too
flat to me. Help?!?
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Stus-List Listers Age Range

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I'm 65 until October...1990 37+


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Stus-List Stair Treads and companion way finishes

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

Happy New Year all.  Cheers from the balmy Straits of Mackinac.  My
new-to-me 37+ has a bright interior, and my sanding hand has been twitching
a bit, thinking I could re-varnish the interior starting with companionway
steps.  Then, I ran across a fairly new product, apparently, called Rubbed
Effect Low VOC Satin Varnish by Epifanes.  Blurb says it needs to be
applied over at least 2 coats of regular-style bright varnish.  Product is
water based, and the pictures, of course, look just like I would hope.  Has
anyone had experience with this?

Forgive if this has been reviewed, but could not find anything!


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Stus-List 37+ Prop Pitch for Universal 35

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

I have a MaxProp classic, and a Universal 35 on Daydream.  The prop pitch
appears very shallow, and when motoring, seems to be slow. (from memory of
last September, 4.5 knots@ 2300rpms)

Any 37+ owners have this combination of prop and engine, and happen to know
the correct pitch for the MaxProp prop?

And cheers from the Michigan Fridge...-12 in the UP this morning!!


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Stus-List Head plumbing...

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

All this chatter about plumbing raised, for me, a related question for you
37+ guys.
I am changing a leaking, not really serviceable toilet to a new one, and
plan to change the hoses as well.  On the 37+ there appears to be no
factory-installed vented loop on discharge line.  Not one on my ex-boat, a
35-3 either.  Seems that a vented loop is recommended by toilet makers to
avoid backup when heeling.
Has anyone upgraded and installed vented loop?  Or is there a rationale for
not having one on our boats?  Puzzled.


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Stus-List headsail, maybe 125-135?

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

Adding to the discussion about headsails...I purchased an old Haarstick
used #3 dubbed "bug sail" for early season sailing in northern Lake Huron.
Seems the off-balanced food chain has favored a prolific midge population
that hatches and coats nice white sails in a black smudge for about 2-3
weeks in late May and early June.  The #3 also works well with higher wind
averages in early summer.

I switch to a 135 in mid-June. Love it.

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Stus-List Logowear sighting...

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We are skiing at Copper Mountain in Colorado, and while in our condo, the
Saturday local TV news came on.  The sound was down, but I glanced up to
notice a fellow being interviewed...wait for it...wearing a familiar
light-colored shirt with a C&C Yachts logo!  I wondered at that point if I
were the only person in the area to note that detail?

It was our list's own Randy Stafford!  My compliments to you for your
choice of on-camera-wear, Randy!


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Stus-List Furling line cleating

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Happy spring!!??  Ice shanty or two (with trucks) still on Hessel Bay!!
I have been searching for a new way to cleat my furling line.  Currently
have just a 'horned' cleat mounted on the coaming sidewall.  I have been
looking at Harken's 'flip-flop' (pivoting) block mounted to deck with
integral cam cleat.  It has approx 300 lbs capacity with 3/8 line max.
Seems I could handle that from the helm better.

Anyone have a better idea, or tried a similar setup?  I don't like ratchet
blocks...and have never seen a block set up like that.  Experts??


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Stus-List Anyone have a prop?

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Hello listers...anyone have a fixed three blade propeller,  16x9 RH for a 1
1/8 shaft?
It's for my 37+ who has a problem with the Max Prop that is currently
installed.  I want to get a quick solution, and use the fixed blade for
this year, while I send the MaxProp for reconditioning.
Just hoping someone has a fixed prop languishing in their garage and would
either sell or loan for a year!!!  Anyone help?  Boat is out of commission
until I secure a solution!  Thanks!


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Stus-List Anyone have a prop?

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Thanks for all the responses and generous offers of help!  I had the yard
pull DAYDREAM out this morning, and fixed the issue!  Here are some key
things I learned:
-There is no mention of "numbered parts" in the original manual for the
MaxProp Classic three blade feathering prop.  You need to wipe away grease,
and assure that all the part placements are matched with the numbers
stamped on the blades. (1,2 and 3).  The gears, housing and blades are all
stamped with a 1-3 number and need to align, because, according to PYI,
these props prior to around 2000 builds, were basically hand made, and
tuned.  This means each part has small differences that might not be
noticeable. (to someone like me...)
-When re-assembling the blades, make sure they are exactly in the same
position as when they were disassembled. (unless, as in my experience they
may have been reassembled wrong in the past...)

So...thanks again, but my prop is back, and running more smoothly than
ever...and I'm safe in our slip in St Ignace, in the Straits of Mackinac.
If you have other questions, I'll try to convey my new knowledge... Whew!!!
 cs


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Stus-List Auto pilot advice 34-36R

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I had same/similar issue on my new(to me) boat with EV-100. Make sure the
hex-head screw in drive lever is tight!!!
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Stus-List Re: Boat trucking recommendations

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Highly recommend Jim Burt at Great Lakes Marine Transport.  In Port
Washington, WI.https://www.greatlakesmarineservices.com/ourteam.htm

Jim did a stellar job moving my boat from Georgia to Michigan's UP.






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Stus-List Re: Fwd: C&C Board

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Yes...I got bounced.  Sorry about that.  I would like 2 with boat names.
When/how would you need them?  Thanks!!


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Stus-List Cutting Board Form Error

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Hey Stu!  I really want a couple cutting boards...and have had a problem
ordering:

There is no space, line or instruction for including my phone number.  But
when I click on "Confirm Order" it says I need to fill out phone number,
and won't allow me to go further.

Not sure if this is a shared issue or just my Mac.  Help?




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Stus-List Re: Moving 43 landfall from GA to FL and riggers.

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Call Jim Burt at Great Lakes Marine Transport.  Yes, they are in Wisconsin
but travel all over.  Sometimes a small run like yours would be possible
and perhaps cheaper on a dead-head run to somewhere else.  Did an
incredible job for me from Lake Lanier to Hessel, Michigan!!




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> Neil and Tom. It is on Lake Lanier .no icw.it came by truck from Florida
> and returns to our second home there on West coast Florida. It requires a
> truck and that is why I asked the group. Last time I use a transportation
> truck company was 15 years ago and my go to  driver is retired.
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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Landfall 43 opinions

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FYI-  Not sure if it is for sale, but pretty sure there is a 43 sitting on
the hard in Gallows Bay on St Croix.  Been there for several years. Always
wondered what the story was, and unsure about status.  Light blue hull.
Ketch rigged, which seems rare.


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> Joe,
>
> I didn’t say they were bad, just knock-offs.  In the mid40’s+, the IP’s
> seemed well suited for serious travel and quite a number have
> circumnavigated the world. There lack of balsa wood fiberglass laminate
> material avoids a lot of trouble in the South Pacific
>
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> 484-354-8800
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Stus-List Dead Battery Charger

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

Hello gang...

My battery charger died this weekend.  Its demise was swift, but provides
an opportunity.  It was a ProMariner Sport 20amp, and apparently did a good
job.  But...since I am not an expert in this field...and need to part with
boat bucks anyway, do you guys have better ideas?

I have two new group 27 combo batteries. No room for a third on my C$C
37/40+.  What setups do you guys have?  Thanks.


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Stus-List Re: Dead Battery Charger

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

Update…and thanks for all input. I’m going with replacing my existing
charger with same. From all your suggestions I think it’s worth redesigning
my current battery system this winter. Will keep me busy…and can use this
new charger at home. Thanks again for all the input. Have a great weekend!

On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 10:22 AM Chuck Saur  wrote:

> Hello gang...
>
> My battery charger died this weekend.  Its demise was swift, but provides
> an opportunity.  It was a ProMariner Sport 20amp, and apparently did a good
> job.  But...since I am not an expert in this field...and need to part with
> boat bucks anyway, do you guys have better ideas?
>
> I have two new group 27 combo batteries. No room for a third on my C$C
> 37/40+.  What setups do you guys have?  Thanks.
>
>
> *Chuck Saur*
>
> 517 490-5926 Cell
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>
>
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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] No Traffic

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

Still lurking here...


*Chuck Saur*


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On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 12:16 PM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

>
> I am still here. Maybe everyone is out sailing or died of heat stroke.
> Joe
> Coquina
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jeff Nelson via CnC-List 
> Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2023 12:13 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Jeff Nelson 
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List No Traffic
>
> I've not seen an email on this list since Aug 29th.  Nothing in my spam
> foldersI'm guessing some new GMail setting perhaps...anyone have any
> suggestions?
>
> Cheers,
>Jeff Nelson
>Muir Caileag
>C&C 30 - 549
>Armdale Y.C.
>
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Stus-List Transporting

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

Highly recommend Jim Burt at Great Lakes Marine Transport.  In Port
Washington, WI.
https://www.greatlakesmarineservices.com/ourteam.htm

Jim did a stellar job moving my boat from Georgia to Michigan's UP.


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Stus-List Transporting

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

Nice, Edd...or a Calvin and Hobbes-developed transmogrifyer?  Sorry.


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Stus-List Re: Broken rod rigging attachment for babystay deck at keel - 37/40+

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

Hello Bruce!  I was told the baby stay’s primary function was to mitigate
mast pumping in a seaway and/or from harmonics. Secondary function to
assist mast bend. I know C&C skippers who don’t use it. I believe mine has
a padeye bolted or screwed into the sump and a turnbuckle to adjust. Not
structural...only to anchor the track if used.

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 7:08 PM Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Guessing the plate is bolted in and the glass over it is not structural.
>
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 6:58 PM Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Ahh...   Of course.
>>
>> I had not thought of that.
>>
>> Have any of you had to do this repair, and do you know how the rod is
>> connected to the keel stub?
>>
>> As a bit of background, the 1/4" stainless rod rig material is attached
>> to the underside of the deck with a 1/4" x 1.5" x 3" stainless plate with
>> two 3/8" stainless screws/bolts.   I am presuming a similar stainless plate
>> was fiberglassed in place at the keel.  As of now, I can't really see it,
>> but I will be able to get to it.  I am thinking I can grind it down a bit
>> to get to clean fiberglass, get a replacement 1/2" threaded rod, tap a hole
>> into a replacement stainless plate and get a welder additionally weld the
>> rod in place so it doesn't move (untwist).  From there, fiberglass it in
>> place.
>>
>> I can then use the existing rod and under-deck attachment.
>>
>> Am I missing something?
>>
>> Is there any particular trick to the fiberglassing?  How many layers of
>> cloth would you use?
>>
>> Thanks!!!
>>
>> Bruce Whitmore
>> 1994 C&C 37/40+
>> "Astralis"
>> Madeira Beach, FL
>> (847) 404-5092
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2021, 2:47 PM Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Bruce,
>>>
>>> If you have turning blocks attached to the deck I would be careful, as
>>> the rod counteracts the upward force of the halyards.  If they are attached
>>> to the mast, I would think you are OK.
>>>
>>> Joel
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>> --


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Stus-List Asymmetrical Spinnaker outside jibe

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

Good descriptions of asym handling. Should be receiving a new asym for my
37+...and will be my first time on this boat. Question for any other 37+
skippers with asym rig...how long are your sheets? And what size line?
Thoughts?--


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Stus-List midship cleats on aluminum rail?

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

On several nasty nights I used my hefty Wichard snatch blocks for midship
tether (to keep me off the dock, attached to a neighboring spring piling)
and other times for springlines.  Just clip 'em on to wherever you need on
the toerail.  Works great.


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Stus-List Ceramic coatings?

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

Has anyone tried any of the ‘new’ ceramic-based coatings that would replace
waxing the hull?  Not sure if this is for real or not...promises of shiny
boat and uv protection for entire year in a bottle. (Seems I’ve heard that
one before?) Glidecoat is pricey and many products/other stuff is around
$50-100 a bottle.

Would be nice to shoot a spray as opposed to certain shoulder
impingement...any thoughts?  Cheers!  Chuck @Daydream 37+
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Stus-List Re: UFO NOISE

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

Do you have a topping lift?  I was accidentally tightening my main sheet to
stop the boom vang squeak...and was tuning my topping lift like a guitar
string.   Another experience with neighboring boat had a in-mast furler
groove make spooky notes like a flute when wind hit just right angle. Your
results may vary...😎

On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 9:50 PM Dave S via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Lol- well, if enough time has passed an apology and flowers might be a
> start.
> Dave   (Evening spent proactively doting on my 33-2)
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 18, 2021, at 9:40 PM, Doug Mountjoy 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> That is a possibility but nothing changed from last fall. Except for the
> fact I was not home to dote on Rebecca Leah.
>
>
>
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>
> Doug Mountjoy
> Port Orchard YC
> Port Orchard,  WA
> Rebecca Leah
> 1988 LF39
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Dave S via CnC-List 
> Date: 5/18/21 6:13 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: Dave S 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: UFO NOISE
>
> If you cover any holes you can reach does the pitch change?
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 18, 2021, at 9:07 PM, Dan Grant via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> Vortex shedding?
> Dan
> Ipswich , Ma
> Puffin
> Cv # 148
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 18, 2021, at 8:18 PM, Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> 
> For the past couple of months I have had a harmonic noise that sounds like
> a UFO. It appears to be coming from the mast, but only with a wind blowing,
> light or otherwise.
> Being moored across the bay from Puget Sound Naval Shipyard first few
> times I heard it, had me looking outside for UFOs. I don't think its wind
> in the rigging.
> It just started this year when I got back from my 5 month road trip to
> Florida.
> Is Rebecca Leah punishing me for being gone so long?
>
>
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>
> Doug Mountjoy
> Port Orchard YC
> Port Orchard,  WA
> Rebecca Leah
> 1988 LF39
>
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Stus-List Re: Accessing A/C unit behind stairs of a 37/40+

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

Hi Bruce!  I have had the stairs and engine compartment off. The stairs and
top are mounted together. Remove stair brackets at top of companionway.
There are screws shot upwards into the top from above the engine thru two
cross-pieces. IIRC correctly. You need to remove any soundproofing to find
screws. The stairs are screwed in from beneath as well. Mine came off in
one piece. This means tour a/c unit will be there too I’m guessing… that’s
how mine worked…hope yours goes as well!

On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 3:52 PM Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I have to get to the air conditioning unit mounted behind the companionway
> stairs on our 1994 C&C 37/40+.  The A/C unit is trapped in there with only
> side access.  Has anyone had to disassemble those stairs to get at things,
> and if so, do you have any suggestions or guidance?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bruce Whitmore
> 1994 C&C 37/40+ "Astralis"
> Madeira Beach, FL
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Stus-List Re: Seasons' Greeting

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

Yes!  Merry Christmas and Happy Sailing '24!!🏝️🥂


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On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 5:50 PM John Irvin via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hear hear!
>
> Get Outlook for iOS 
> --
> *From:* Schiller via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 21, 2023 4:03:52 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> *Cc:* Schiller 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: Seasons' Greeting
>
> Stu,
>
>
> Merry Christmas to you and thank you for all that you do for all of us.
>
>
> Neil Schiller
>
> 1983 C&C 35-3, #028
>
> Whitehall, Michigan
>
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Stus-List Re: C&C Racing Shirt - Size XL - Free (pay Shipping and Donation)

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

Did I win Edd?



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On Sun, Dec 31, 2023 at 2:23 PM Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Listers,
>
> Happy new year!
>
> I’m giving away my never-worn C&C Racing polo shirt, size XL.
>
> On the front is the C&C logo with “RACING” underneath. On the back are the
> nautical flags: Alpha Mike Foxtrot (You’ll have to look it up as to what
> that means, but here’s a hint: C&Cs are so fast that your competition will
> see this on your back as you pull away.)
>
> See:
> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/2jdxgny0u4zp6sgwp8yok/cc-shirt.jpg?rlkey=zsylggrdk09zmttmb4i68lpj8&dl=0
>
>
> First person to reply that he/she wants it has first dibs. After that.
> i’ll need $10 via PayPal to cover shipping and for you to make a donation
> to Stu for the C&C site/list. I’ll leave it up to you if you want to donate
> $1 or $100.
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Captain of the Starship Enterprise
> Bayliner 3788 | NCC-1701-C
> Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Stus-List Draft question

[Chuck Saur via CnC-List]

Hey guys...help me out? Trying to get my PHRF numbers correct, and since
Lake Michigan is getting thinner, how much water I have under my keel.
So...I've  been using a 5'11" figure for our 1990 37/40+  Daydream, hull
51.  I found this, and other rig measures listed on the Sailboatdata.com
website.  I just saw another measurement on the CNC listserv in the 37/40+
site, and it is 5'6".  In fact, all the wingy 37/40+ boats listed here have
the 5'6" draft listed.

So.  I went out and measured my waterline to the floor (86"), and
subtracted the height of the block under my keel (-6").  My final
measurement is 80"...or last I did the math...a whopping draft of 6'8".
What the heck? Am I missing something?

I wonder what my PHRF oughta be...and better stay outa shallow-er areas
now!!

I asked our ex-C&C dealer here, and they guessed it might be a custom
thing.  Anyone heard of this?  Or have variations of the 5'6" or 5'11"?


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