Stus-List Hot Water Heater

[Robert Abbott via CnC-List]

I was convinced my old Raritan water heater was leaking.after a 
close inspection yesterday with the assistance of a mechanic familiar 
with these issues, we concluded it was not leaking.  The wooden platform 
it sits on was dry, pressure valve outlet dry, valve to empty the tank 
on the bottom was dry, all connections in and out were dry.


The mechanic said to leave the pressure pump onafter the system is 
pressurized it should stay offif it comes back on without running 
water, chances are the system has a leak.    After several hours, it did 
not come back on.


The mechanic did not have time yesterday to trouble shoot the source of 
the leakhe said to inspect every connection which might entail 
placing newspapers or paper towels under each to try to determine where 
the water ic coming from.


It is good news in one respect but frustrating in another.  I'll keep 
the list posted.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - #277
Halifax, N.S.



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Stus-List Euro style electrical connectors

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Does anyone have a source for marine grade euro style connectors like this:

https://focusattack.com/philmore-12-terminal-euro-style-18-20-awg-barrier-strip/


I find lots of non-marine grade but no tinned connectors.

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Re: Stus-List Euro style electrical connectors

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not tinned, but they seem to hold up:

http://www.downwindmarine.com/Connector-Strips-Newmar-p-9147.html

Joel

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> Does anyone have a source for marine grade euro style connectors like this:
>
>
> https://focusattack.com/philmore-12-terminal-euro-style-18-20-awg-barrier-strip/
>
>
> I find lots of non-marine grade but no tinned connectors.
>
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Re: Stus-List Hot Water Heater

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

As I have said before, replace the relief valve.  It opened occasionally on
my Raritan

Joel

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 9:11 AM Robert Abbott via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I was convinced my old Raritan water heater was leaking.after a
> close inspection yesterday with the assistance of a mechanic familiar
> with these issues, we concluded it was not leaking.  The wooden platform
> it sits on was dry, pressure valve outlet dry, valve to empty the tank
> on the bottom was dry, all connections in and out were dry.
>
> The mechanic said to leave the pressure pump onafter the system is
> pressurized it should stay offif it comes back on without running
> water, chances are the system has a leak.After several hours, it did
> not come back on.
>
> The mechanic did not have time yesterday to trouble shoot the source of
> the leakhe said to inspect every connection which might entail
> placing newspapers or paper towels under each to try to determine where
> the water ic coming from.
>
> It is good news in one respect but frustrating in another.  I'll keep
> the list posted.
>
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C&C 32 - #277
> Halifax, N.S.
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Euro style electrical connectors

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I have found them on Amazon and FleaBay. I am not a huge fan, the quality is 
variable. They are nice for experiments where you will be rearranging things.

Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35  MK I
www.dellabarba.com



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Does anyone have a source for marine grade euro style connectors like this:

https://focusattack.com/philmore-12-terminal-euro-style-18-20-awg-barrier-strip/

I find lots of non-marine grade but no tinned connectors.

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Re: Stus-List Hot Water Heater

[Robert Abbott via CnC-List]

Joel,

There is a hose on my relief valve that directs any water from it to the 
bilge.I will place a container under the hose to see if catches any 
water.


Thanks for the tipwill let you know what happens.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32- #277
Halifax, N.S.

On 5/27/2020 11:41 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List wrote:
As I have said before, replace the relief valve. It opened 
occasionally on my Raritan


Joel

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 9:11 AM Robert Abbott via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


I was convinced my old Raritan water heater was leaking.after a
close inspection yesterday with the assistance of a mechanic familiar
with these issues, we concluded it was not leaking.  The wooden
platform
it sits on was dry, pressure valve outlet dry, valve to empty the
tank
on the bottom was dry, all connections in and out were dry.

The mechanic said to leave the pressure pump onafter the
system is
pressurized it should stay offif it comes back on without running
water, chances are the system has a leak.    After several hours,
it did
not come back on.

The mechanic did not have time yesterday to trouble shoot the
source of
the leakhe said to inspect every connection which might entail
placing newspapers or paper towels under each to try to determine
where
the water ic coming from.

It is good news in one respect but frustrating in another. I'll keep
the list posted.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - #277
Halifax, N.S.



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Re: Stus-List Hot Water Heater

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

If not, add food coloring to the tank. Easier to find the leak

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 1:23 PM Robert Abbott via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Joel,
>
> There is a hose on my relief valve that directs any water from it to the
> bilge.I will place a container under the hose to see if catches any
> water.
>
> Thanks for the tipwill let you know what happens.
>
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C&C 32- #277
> Halifax, N.S.
>
> On 5/27/2020 11:41 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List wrote:
>
> As I have said before, replace the relief valve.  It opened occasionally
> on my Raritan
>
> Joel
>
> On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 9:11 AM Robert Abbott via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I was convinced my old Raritan water heater was leaking.after a
>> close inspection yesterday with the assistance of a mechanic familiar
>> with these issues, we concluded it was not leaking.  The wooden platform
>> it sits on was dry, pressure valve outlet dry, valve to empty the tank
>> on the bottom was dry, all connections in and out were dry.
>>
>> The mechanic said to leave the pressure pump onafter the system is
>> pressurized it should stay offif it comes back on without running
>> water, chances are the system has a leak.After several hours, it did
>> not come back on.
>>
>> The mechanic did not have time yesterday to trouble shoot the source of
>> the leakhe said to inspect every connection which might entail
>> placing newspapers or paper towels under each to try to determine where
>> the water ic coming from.
>>
>> It is good news in one respect but frustrating in another.  I'll keep
>> the list posted.
>>
>> Rob Abbott
>> AZURA
>> C&C 32 - #277
>> Halifax, N.S.
>>
>>
>>
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Stus-List water pump seal

[Gerald Fennessey via CnC-List]

Any one have experience pressing in a new seal in the 3gm raw water pump.
Thanks
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Re: Stus-List water pump seal

[Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List]

Gerry,
When pressing in a new lip seal there are a couple of things to look for.
first make sure the seal is orientated correctly, the open side (side with
spring) should face the liquid
second I use a socket that covers the seal completely, I invert the socket
and then insert an extension and drive the seal in carefully trying to make
sure it goes in straight. Lubricate the shaft before installing into the
new seal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Bh9I2E7HGI

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> Any one have experience pressing in a new seal
> in the 3gm raw water pump.
>
> Thanks
>
> Gerry
> Fianna 1985 35 MK3
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Re: Stus-List Hot Water Heater

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

Rob,

You can use _water soluble markers_ to make lines in strategic places. If water 
leaks over them, it will show.

Marek

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Robert Abbott via CnC-List
Sent: 27 May, 2020 09:11
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Robert Abbott 
Subject: Stus-List Hot Water Heater

I was convinced my old Raritan water heater was leaking.after a close 
inspection yesterday with the assistance of a mechanic familiar with these 
issues, we concluded it was not leaking.  The wooden platform it sits on was 
dry, pressure valve outlet dry, valve to empty the tank on the bottom was dry, 
all connections in and out were dry.

The mechanic said to leave the pressure pump onafter the system is 
pressurized it should stay offif it comes back on without running water, 
chances are the system has a leak.    After several hours, it did not come back 
on.

The mechanic did not have time yesterday to trouble shoot the source of the 
leakhe said to inspect every connection which might entail placing 
newspapers or paper towels under each to try to determine where the water ic 
coming from.

It is good news in one respect but frustrating in another.  I'll keep the list 
posted.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - #277
Halifax, N.S.



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Re: Stus-List Hot Water Heater

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

The pressure relief valves have a bad habit of leaking if they are opened up. 
They seem not to want to seal completely again.

Marek

From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Robert Abbott via CnC-List
Sent: 27 May, 2020 13:23
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Robert Abbott 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Hot Water Heater

Joel,

There is a hose on my relief valve that directs any water from it to the 
bilge.I will place a container under the hose to see if catches any water.

Thanks for the tipwill let you know what happens.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32- #277
Halifax, N.S.
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Stus-List Hot Water Heater

[Robert Abbott via CnC-List]

Marek,

In 15 years,I have never opened the relief valve and thanks for the 
water marker tip.now I have to source it.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - #277
Halifax N.S.

On 5/27/2020 5:24 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List wrote:


The pressure relief valves have a bad habit of leaking if they are 
opened up. They seem not to want to seal completely again.


Marek

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*Sent:* 27 May, 2020 13:23
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Cc:* Robert Abbott 
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Hot Water Heater

Joel,

There is a hose on my relief valve that directs any water from it to 
the bilge.I will place a container under the hose to see if 
catches any water.


Thanks for the tipwill let you know what happens.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32- #277
Halifax, N.S.


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Stus-List Hot Water Heater

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On 5/27/2020 11:41 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List wrote:



As I have said before, replace the relief valve.  It opened
occasionally on my Raritan





Joel, question?   Did the relief valve open occasionally only
when the engine was running with engine coolant heating the
water, or when you were heating water via shore power or just any
time at random regardless of whether the water was being heated
or the pressure pump on?




   My leak will occur over the time I leave the boat all shut down.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - #277
Halifax, N.S.



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Stus-List Hot Water Heater

[Robert Abbott via CnC-List]

Neil,

Video on replacing the HW Tank.and this guy had to take out the teak trim 
around the locker...FYI.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vwlm4PMri4


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32-#277
Halifax, N.S.



On 5/26/2020 2:11 PM, neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com wrote:


Rob,

Boy is this familiar.  I am in the same boat (so to speak).  The 
lazarette doesn’t maintain the same size throughout its length, it 
gets narrower the farther aft you go.  I bought a 6 gallon from West 
Marine in the fal and am in the process of installation now.  The wood 
trim piece (attached be screws from underneath has to be remove and a 
little spreading force may ben needed to make it fit (1/4 of an inch 
(6-7 mm) or so ). The west Marin heater measures 13.5 inches square 
and the opening is “just” short of 13.5 inches at the most aft portion.


I’m going to give it a try this week and will let you know if I can 
make it happen.


Neil Andersen

S/V FoxFire

1982 C&C 32

Rock Hall, MD 21661


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Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 9:36 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Robert Abbott 
Subject: Stus-List Hot Water Heater

My hot water heater needs replacingthe existing one is round, 14 
inches in diameter.it should just, I mean just, come out of the 
locker without dismantling it so the new one can be no bigger.


Can anyone with experience with hot water heaters recommend a 
replacement, specific model number?


Rob Abbott

AZURA

C&C 32 - #277

Halifax, N.S.

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Re: Stus-List Hot Water Heater

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

Any children's marker should do (most are supposed to be water soluble)

Marek


 Original message 
From: Robert Abbott via CnC-List 
Date: 2020-05-27 17:58 (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Robert Abbott 
Subject: Stus-List Hot Water Heater

Marek,

In 15 years,I have never opened the relief valve and thanks for the water 
marker tip.now I have to source it.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - #277
Halifax N.S.

On 5/27/2020 5:24 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List wrote:
The pressure relief valves have a bad habit of leaking if they are opened up. 
They seem not to want to seal completely again.

Marek

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Sent: 27 May, 2020 13:23
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Robert Abbott 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Hot Water Heater

Joel,

There is a hose on my relief valve that directs any water from it to the 
bilge.I will place a container under the hose to see if catches any water.

Thanks for the tipwill let you know what happens.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32- #277
Halifax, N.S.



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Re: Stus-List Hot Water Heater

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The T&P (relief) valves are supposed to be tested on a certain frequency.
If you've never heard of water heater rocket launching you should look it
up.  It happens as a result of the T&P getting clogged or stuck shut and
then the thermostat getting stuck on.

https://youtu.be/rGWmONHipVo

If they leak after test it is usually because some calcium deposits got
stuck in the valve seat.  You can assist it slightly by pushing down on the
brass stem that extends from the center of the valve.  This is especially
likely if you have never flush the deposits out of the tank.  As they age,
the spring can simply get weak.

I cycle mine every spring to vent the system and every fall when I'm
flushing and draining.  As far as I know it doesn't leak and I've been
doing it since it was replaced 7 years ago.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

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> On 5/27/2020 11:41 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List wrote:
>
> As I have said before, replace the relief valve.  It opened occasionally
>> on my Raritan
>>
>>
>
> Joel, question?   Did the relief valve open occasionally only when the
>> engine was running with engine coolant heating the water, or when you were
>> heating water via shore power or just any time at random regardless of
>> whether the water was being heated or the pressure pump on?
>>
>>
>My leak will occur over the time I leave the boat all shut down.
>
> Rob Abbott
>>> AZURA
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>>> Halifax, N.S.
>>>
>>>
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https://youtu.be/rGWmONHipVo

On Wed, May 27, 2020, 18:04 Robert Abbott via CnC-List <
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> On 5/27/2020 11:41 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List wrote:
>
> As I have said before, replace the relief valve.  It opened occasionally
>> on my Raritan
>>
>>
>
> Joel, question?   Did the relief valve open occasionally only when the
>> engine was running with engine coolant heating the water, or when you were
>> heating water via shore power or just any time at random regardless of
>> whether the water was being heated or the pressure pump on?
>>
>>
>My leak will occur over the time I leave the boat all shut down.
>
> Rob Abbott
>>> AZURA
>>> C&C 32 - #277
>>> Halifax, N.S.
>>>
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Stus-List Bow Chainplate Access & Inspection - 1981 36-1 KCB

[Tim Rutherford via CnC-List]

When inspecting chainplates prior to re-rigging (standing rigging), what
should I know about disassembling the bow chainplate and stemhead casting?
As that area reasonably serviceable? Stainless galling and oxide seizing
notwithstanding.

One chainplate has already been done and looked pristine. Please share
experiences, and tips.

Vessel was retrofitted with wire rope by a previous owner.

Many thanks in advance.
--
Tim Rutherford
1981 C&C 36-1 KCB #244 Chamamé
tim.rutherford.m...@gmail.com
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