Stus-List Best location for and small form factor start battery for yanmar 2gmf

[Syerdave--- via CnC-List]

Am revising the battery arrangement in my 33ii to add a start battery and 
parallel the existing group 34 batteries as a house bank.   Space is at a 
premium...  Has anyone done this and do you have any suggestions?  Tx.




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Re: Stus-List Best location for and small form factor start battery for yanmar 2gmf

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

As discussed on this list before, an ACR or Xantrex Echo-charge is what you
should use to keep the start and house banks separate but allow the
alternator to charge both.  A combine switch allows for emergency starting
with the house batteries.  A very small lead acid battery is enough to turn
the engine.  If you don't have enough room for a U-1 tractor battery then
you might find a motorcycle battery that will fit your needs.  Even two 6v
motorcycle batteries might solve your space problem.  There are some great
lithium options in motorcycle batteries too.

Josh Muckley
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On Nov 29, 2015 4:17 PM, "Syerdave--- via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Am revising the battery arrangement in my 33ii to add a start battery and
> parallel the existing group 34 batteries as a house bank.   Space is at a
> premium...  Has anyone done this and do you have any suggestions?  Tx.
>
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Stus-List 33ii mainsail reefing

[Dave via CnC-List]

Evening all.  
Am wondering what I am doing a bit wrong here...  
I have a 33ii with jiffy reefing lines run inside the boom.  They exit at the 
end of the boom (alongside the out haul) where they are then run up to their 
respective cringles.  I have simply used a stop knot in the cringle, as there 
is no place to attach the bitter end on the boom after being rove through the 
cringle.  
Due to the geometry involved, the sail sets poorly and the boom sags, as the 
line does not pull the cringle down tight to the boom, only out toward the end 
of the boom.  I'm sure I'm missing something simple 

Any suggestions?   Many thanks!

Dave

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Re: Stus-List 33ii mainsail reefing

[Don Wagner via CnC-List]

Just run the line up,thru the cringle, then down around the boom an tie  a 
bowline to fasten the end around the boom. This gives you the benefit of a 2 
part reef line. The bowline end should be located underneath the cringle. It 
will stay there by itself. I've assumed you have a loose footed main. I not, 
have your sailmaker  sew a slot in the foot to accommodate the bowline.


Works great for me.

Don Wagner
C&C 41CB
Der Baron
West River MD

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Subject: Stus-List 33ii mainsail reefing

Evening all.
Am wondering what I am doing a bit wrong here...
I have a 33ii with jiffy reefing lines run inside the boom.  They exit at 
the end of the boom (alongside the out haul) where they are then run up to 
their respective cringles.  I have simply used a stop knot in the cringle, 
as there is no place to attach the bitter end on the boom after being rove 
through the cringle.
Due to the geometry involved, the sail sets poorly and the boom sags, as the 
line does not pull the cringle down tight to the boom, only out toward the 
end of the boom.  I'm sure I'm missing something simple 


Any suggestions?   Many thanks!

Dave

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Re: Stus-List 33ii mainsail reefing

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

There should be small grommets just above the boom on your sail if it is
not loose-footed. You run the reefing line up from the boom end and through
the reef cringle and run it down and around the boom and tie a bowline
around the standing end. I'll find a picture, I know I have one somewhere
in that 122 GB stack of images.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 29 November 2015 at 16:58, Dave via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Evening all.
> Am wondering what I am doing a bit wrong here...
> I have a 33ii with jiffy reefing lines run inside the boom.  They exit at
> the end of the boom (alongside the out haul) where they are then run up to
> their respective cringles.  I have simply used a stop knot in the cringle,
> as there is no place to attach the bitter end on the boom after being rove
> through the cringle.
> Due to the geometry involved, the sail sets poorly and the boom sags, as
> the line does not pull the cringle down tight to the boom, only out toward
> the end of the boom.  I'm sure I'm missing something simple 
>
> Any suggestions?   Many thanks!
>
> Dave
>
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Re: Stus-List 33ii mainsail reefing

[Michael Crombie via CnC-List]

Hi Dave,

I borrowed a rivet gun from pal on my dock and put a padeye (not sure it this 
is the right terminology - basically a U-shaped fitting) onto the boom.

I run the bitter end to that and tie it off. I angled it so that the two rivets 
are in line with the reef line. Works very well!!

Mike
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Re: Stus-List 33ii mainsail reefing

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

Picture: http://i.imgur.com/ORxsWEX.jpg?1

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 29 November 2015 at 17:16, Michael Crombie via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi Dave,
>
> I borrowed a rivet gun from pal on my dock and put a padeye (not sure it
> this is the right terminology - basically a U-shaped fitting) onto the boom.
>
> I run the bitter end to that and tie it off. I angled it so that the two
> rivets are in line with the reef line. Works very well!!
>
> Mike
> Atacama 33ii
> Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network.
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Re: Stus-List 33ii mainsail reefing

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I hate having stuff on the boom. For one thing, it really hurts if it hits you. 
Here's how I do it: http://www.cruisingworld.com/how/timber-hitch

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI 
USA02840

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> On Nov 29, 2015, at 20:21, Jim Watts via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Picture: http://i.imgur.com/ORxsWEX.jpg?1
> 
> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C&C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
> 
>> On 29 November 2015 at 17:16, Michael Crombie via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Hi Dave,
>> 
>> I borrowed a rivet gun from pal on my dock and put a padeye (not sure it 
>> this is the right terminology - basically a U-shaped fitting) onto the boom.
>> 
>> I run the bitter end to that and tie it off. I angled it so that the two 
>> rivets are in line with the reef line. Works very well!!
>> 
>> Mike
>> Atacama 33ii
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Re: Stus-List 33ii mainsail reefing

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Close.  I should be an eyestrap.  Locate it a few inches aft of the reeking
crinkle.  The reefing line then runs from the boom end slightly forward to
the reefing crinkle then slightly aft to the eyestrap.  Terminate the
reefing line in the eyestrap with a figure eight knot.

When done properly, you will have a 2:1 purchase which pulls the reefing
crinkle aft from both sides of the sail/boom.

Dennis C.

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cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi Dave,
>
> I borrowed a rivet gun from pal on my dock and put a padeye (not sure it
> this is the right terminology - basically a U-shaped fitting) onto the boom.
>
> I run the bitter end to that and tie it off. I angled it so that the two
> rivets are in line with the reef line. Works very well!!
>
> Mike
> Atacama 33ii
> Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network.
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Re: Stus-List 33ii mainsail reefing

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Jim, I don't like to use a bowline, but leaving that alone, I would lead the 
reef line through the grommet and around the boom before tying it on with 
whatever Knot you use.

Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

Andrew Burton
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> On Nov 29, 2015, at 20:21, Jim Watts via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Picture: http://i.imgur.com/ORxsWEX.jpg?1
> 
> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C&C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
> 
>> On 29 November 2015 at 17:16, Michael Crombie via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Hi Dave,
>> 
>> I borrowed a rivet gun from pal on my dock and put a padeye (not sure it 
>> this is the right terminology - basically a U-shaped fitting) onto the boom.
>> 
>> I run the bitter end to that and tie it off. I angled it so that the two 
>> rivets are in line with the reef line. Works very well!!
>> 
>> Mike
>> Atacama 33ii
>> Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network.
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Re: Stus-List 33ii mainsail reefing

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

The article specifically says that the timber hitch doesn't work on
flat-sided booms and I should use a bowline instead, but I never knew that
before so it doesn't matter. Why would you run it through the grommet
first? Serious question, I thought it was a little cleaner lead as I showed
it.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 29 November 2015 at 17:32, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Jim, I don't like to use a bowline, but leaving that alone, I would lead
> the reef line through the grommet and around the boom before tying it on
> with whatever Knot you use.
>
> Andy
> C&C 40
> Peregrine
>
> Andrew Burton
> 61 W Narragansett
> Newport, RI
> USA02840
>
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
>
> On Nov 29, 2015, at 20:21, Jim Watts via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> Picture: http://i.imgur.com/ORxsWEX.jpg?1
>
> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C&C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
>
> On 29 November 2015 at 17:16, Michael Crombie via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> I borrowed a rivet gun from pal on my dock and put a padeye (not sure it
>> this is the right terminology - basically a U-shaped fitting) onto the boom.
>>
>> I run the bitter end to that and tie it off. I angled it so that the two
>> rivets are in line with the reef line. Works very well!!
>>
>> Mike
>> Atacama 33ii
>> Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network.
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Re: Stus-List 33ii mainsail reefing

[Michael Crombie via CnC-List]

Eyestrap!  Yes that's what i rivetted on - thanks! :)  

 I did it just the way you describe and have never been anxious about it when 
reefed.

Mike 
  
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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 19:30:18 
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Subject: Re: Stus-List 33ii mainsail reefing

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Re: Stus-List substitution of depth transducers

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

This is the first one I’ve heard of that failed.  Usually they’re very 
reliable.  It’s just a thermistor potted in the transducer housing:

http://www.airmartechnology.com/uploads/wiringdiagrams/91_636.pdf 


No info on the value of the thermistor...

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

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> 
> Now, how about the unreliability issue with the temperature sensing element 
> of the Raymarine transducer? Is it a simple RTD and of what value, so I can 
> haywire something in stead of it?
> 
> Cheers, Russ
> Sweet 35 mk-1
> B.C. South Coast, where it has dropped below freezing on some nights 
> now!

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Re: Stus-List 33ii mainsail reefing

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

There's strain against the foot of the sail unless the bowline is very small. 
My way the knot is not placing any load on the sail when it's tightened. The 
timber hitch works on our booms, just not the ones with hard corners.

Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine 

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> On Nov 29, 2015, at 21:18, Jim Watts via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> The article specifically says that the timber hitch doesn't work on 
> flat-sided booms and I should use a bowline instead, but I never knew that 
> before so it doesn't matter. Why would you run it through the grommet first? 
> Serious question, I thought it was a little cleaner lead as I showed it. 
> 
> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C&C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
> 
>> On 29 November 2015 at 17:32, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Jim, I don't like to use a bowline, but leaving that alone, I would lead the 
>> reef line through the grommet and around the boom before tying it on with 
>> whatever Knot you use.
>> 
>> Andy
>> C&C 40
>> Peregrine
>> 
>> Andrew Burton
>> 61 W Narragansett
>> Newport, RI 
>> USA02840
>> 
>> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>> +401 965-5260
>> 
>>> On Nov 29, 2015, at 20:21, Jim Watts via CnC-List  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>>> Picture: http://i.imgur.com/ORxsWEX.jpg?1
>>> 
>>> Jim Watts
>>> Paradigm Shift
>>> C&C 35 Mk III
>>> Victoria, BC
>>> 
 On 29 November 2015 at 17:16, Michael Crombie via CnC-List 
  wrote:
 Hi Dave,
 
 I borrowed a rivet gun from pal on my dock and put a padeye (not sure it 
 this is the right terminology - basically a U-shaped fitting) onto the 
 boom.
 
 I run the bitter end to that and tie it off. I angled it so that the two 
 rivets are in line with the reef line. Works very well!!
 
 Mike
 Atacama 33ii
 Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network.
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Re: Stus-List 33ii mainsail reefing

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

For anyone considering not using a timber hitch.  I use a bowline on a
bite.  This allows the loop around the boom to cinch down similar to the
timber hitch.  If a simple bowline were used then you are limited to the
size of the loop made by the knot.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Nov 29, 2015 6:59 PM, "Dave via CnC-List"  wrote:

> Evening all.
> Am wondering what I am doing a bit wrong here...
> I have a 33ii with jiffy reefing lines run inside the boom.  They exit at
> the end of the boom (alongside the out haul) where they are then run up to
> their respective cringles.  I have simply used a stop knot in the cringle,
> as there is no place to attach the bitter end on the boom after being rove
> through the cringle.
> Due to the geometry involved, the sail sets poorly and the boom sags, as
> the line does not pull the cringle down tight to the boom, only out toward
> the end of the boom.  I'm sure I'm missing something simple 
>
> Any suggestions?   Many thanks!
>
> Dave
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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