Re: Stus-List Two paint questions

[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

Engine paint and yes lots of older boats with no barrier coat and no
problems

On Sunday, November 30, 2014, David Knecht via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi all- Now that the boat is put to rest for the winter, I am thinking
> about new projects for the spring.
>
> 1- There are a few spots where connections have leaked in the engine
> compartment  and the paint is peeling off the metal.  What kind of paint
> would be appropriate to repair this with to keep rust down?
>
> 2.  The yard service guy took a look at the bottom of my boat prior to the
> blasting job (this week?) and scraped about a 6” square area to see what
> was there.  According to him there was no barrier coat under the bottom
> paint, but the gel coat looked fine.  I have never heard of a bottom
> without barrier coat.  Is that possible?  I certainly plan to barrier coat
> it this spring prior to painting, but this was a surprise.
>
> Aries
> 1990 C&C 34+
> New London, CT
>
>
>

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Re: Stus-List Navigation

[Letsgo Sailing via CnC-List]

I used C-Map on Standard Horizon chartplotter and where ever I have sailed they 
where accurate to the foot. 

 

Yanni Boatless in Ontario

Not for long…

 

92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible

95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible

07 Yamaha Straotoliner S

SCRC 011059

SRO 26-6483

 

TURBO!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!!

Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes?

Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Colin 
Kilgour via CnC-List
Sent: November 30, 2014 10:52 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com; Kevin Driscoll
Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation

 

Just because charts are digital doesn't mean they are accurate. 

Many digital charts are based on soundings that may literally be hundreds of 
years old and would certainly predate GPS. 

I was in Panama this summer and my Navionics gold charts would have had me 
drive over a bunch of reefs if I had let them.   (I used paper charts from the 
cruising guide which were spot on) 

I'm not sure what the chart accuracy is in that part of the world,  but if 
there was any question of dodgy charts,  the race committee ought to have given 
that area a wide berth.   It would have been simple to set up a waypoint well 
offshore in deep water.   Putting people at risk that way is irresponsible,  
imo. 

Cheers 
Colin 

On Nov 29, 2014 10:57 PM, "Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List" mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

I heard it was a classic case of being too far zoomed out on the chart plotter. 
At least that's what the Volvo website alluded to. 

On Sat, Nov 29, 2014, 12:03 PM Don Newman via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

They were hit by Cyclone Suzie.
Reported grounded Cargo Carajos Shoals, Mauritius 12 hours later.


Don Newman
905 547 1750  

> On Nov 29, 2014, at 13:58, Brent Driedger via CnC-List   > wrote:
>
> Sorry, this isn't C&C specific but important to our sport. Currently Team 
> Vestas Wind is aground and planning to abandon ship. Is there any reason why 
> a professionally crewed yacht with the latest and greatest nav equipment and 
> shore assistance would come to this? Short of uncharted reefs but that 
> doesn't sound to likely.
> I'm curious to know what underwater unknowns you've come across while 
> offshore.
>
> Cheers
> Brent Driedger
> 27-5
> Lake Winnipeg
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Stus-List bird spikes

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I did that and it worked for a while. The ospreys eventually figured out how to 
break it ☹
Did I mention all ospreys must die a long and painful death? In case I forgot, 
I think they need to be tied up and watch me make an omelet out of osprey eggs 
before being staked out in the desert next to an ant hill and covered with 
honey.
Not really – but damn if those things cannot make a HUGE mess and they are very 
creative at getting around obstacles. The boat one mooring over had a nice new 
wind instruments for about 3 days before a big fat osprey landed on them and 
broke the mount right off.

Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I
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Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 9:52 PM
To: Chuck S; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List bird spikes

I have monofilament lines running from shroud to shroud just above the 
spreaders - work really well against cormorants.  At the masthead my burger on 
a pig stick keeps the "rats" away.

Others in my harbor use the nylon spikes.
--
Jonathan
Indigo C&C 35III
SOUTHPORT CT

On Nov 30, 2014, at 21:33, Chuck S via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Saw a suggestion in one of my books for birds but never tried it:
It said to rig a fishing line about 2" higher than the spreader from mast to 
the shroud, and rig a line at mast top from windspeed sensor mast to windex 
mast, 2" above the mast top.  Birds either trip on the line or avoid it.




Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md


From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" 
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To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" 
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Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 7:52:51 PM
Subject: Stus-List bird spikes


Does anyone know a good place to buy bird spikes for the top of the
spreaders?  I saw someone putting them up and it looked like they had that
3M super industrial tape on them.


Joe Della Barba
Coquina
35 MK I


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Re: Stus-List Navigation

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I am not sure where “where ever” is, but some areas out of the 1st world are 
using surveys from 100-200 years ago to make those electronic charts. Recently 
the US Navy drove a minesweeper onto a reef for just this reason. Also note the 
vector chart plotters will lose major details when zoomed out, including entire 
islands. This resulted in a multiple fatality in California recently.


Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Letsgo 
Sailing via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 6:59 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation

I used C-Map on Standard Horizon chartplotter and where ever I have sailed they 
where accurate to the foot.

Yanni Boatless in Ontario
Not for long…

92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible
95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible
07 Yamaha Straotoliner S
SCRC 011059
SRO 26-6483

TURBO!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!!
Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes?
Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere


From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Colin 
Kilgour via CnC-List
Sent: November 30, 2014 10:52 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com; Kevin Driscoll
Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation


Just because charts are digital doesn't mean they are accurate.

Many digital charts are based on soundings that may literally be hundreds of 
years old and would certainly predate GPS.

I was in Panama this summer and my Navionics gold charts would have had me 
drive over a bunch of reefs if I had let them.   (I used paper charts from the 
cruising guide which were spot on)

I'm not sure what the chart accuracy is in that part of the world,  but if 
there was any question of dodgy charts,  the race committee ought to have given 
that area a wide berth.   It would have been simple to set up a waypoint well 
offshore in deep water.   Putting people at risk that way is irresponsible,  
imo.

Cheers
Colin
On Nov 29, 2014 10:57 PM, "Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List" 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I heard it was a classic case of being too far zoomed out on the chart plotter. 
At least that's what the Volvo website alluded to.
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014, 12:03 PM Don Newman via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
They were hit by Cyclone Suzie.
Reported grounded Cargo Carajos Shoals, Mauritius 12 hours later.


Don Newman
905 547 1750

> On Nov 29, 2014, at 13:58, Brent Driedger via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>
> Sorry, this isn't C&C specific but important to our sport. Currently Team 
> Vestas Wind is aground and planning to abandon ship. Is there any reason why 
> a professionally crewed yacht with the latest and greatest nav equipment and 
> shore assistance would come to this? Short of uncharted reefs but that 
> doesn't sound to likely.
> I'm curious to know what underwater unknowns you've come across while 
> offshore.
>
> Cheers
> Brent Driedger
> 27-5
> Lake Winnipeg
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Stus-List Navigation

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I was motoring up a harbor looking at a  nice Raymarine system showing the boat 
going through a sea wall 200 feet west of our actual position. 

Yesterday while motoring in the ICW channel in Santa Rosa Sound near Navarre, 
FL, the chartplotter boat took out several of the buoys on the right side of 
the channel. 

Dennis C.
Touché 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

Currently on the hook at
30 23.054N 86 51.884W

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 1, 2014, at 7:35 AM, "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
>  wrote:
> 
> I am not sure where “where ever” is, but some areas out of the 1st world are 
> using surveys from 100-200 years ago to make those electronic charts. 
> Recently the US Navy drove a minesweeper onto a reef for just this reason. 
> Also note the vector chart plotters will lose major details when zoomed out, 
> including entire islands. This resulted in a multiple fatality in California 
> recently.
>  
>  
> Joe Della Barba
> Coquina
> C&C 35 MK I
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Letsgo 
> Sailing via CnC-List
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 6:59 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation
>  
> I used C-Map on Standard Horizon chartplotter and where ever I have sailed 
> they where accurate to the foot.
>  
> Yanni Boatless in Ontario
> Not for long…
>  
> 92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible
> 95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible
> 07 Yamaha Straotoliner S
> SCRC 011059
> SRO 26-6483
>  
> TURBO!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!!
> Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes?
> Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere
>  
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Colin 
> Kilgour via CnC-List
> Sent: November 30, 2014 10:52 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com; Kevin Driscoll
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation
>  
> Just because charts are digital doesn't mean they are accurate.
> 
> Many digital charts are based on soundings that may literally be hundreds of 
> years old and would certainly predate GPS.
> 
> I was in Panama this summer and my Navionics gold charts would have had me 
> drive over a bunch of reefs if I had let them.   (I used paper charts from 
> the cruising guide which were spot on)
> 
> I'm not sure what the chart accuracy is in that part of the world,  but if 
> there was any question of dodgy charts,  the race committee ought to have 
> given that area a wide berth.   It would have been simple to set up a 
> waypoint well offshore in deep water.   Putting people at risk that way is 
> irresponsible,  imo.
> 
> Cheers 
> Colin
> 
> On Nov 29, 2014 10:57 PM, "Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List" 
>  wrote:
> I heard it was a classic case of being too far zoomed out on the chart 
> plotter. At least that's what the Volvo website alluded to.
> 
> On Sat, Nov 29, 2014, 12:03 PM Don Newman via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> They were hit by Cyclone Suzie.
> Reported grounded Cargo Carajos Shoals, Mauritius 12 hours later.
> 
> 
> Don Newman
> 905 547 1750
> 
> > On Nov 29, 2014, at 13:58, Brent Driedger via CnC-List 
> >  wrote:
> >
> > Sorry, this isn't C&C specific but important to our sport. Currently Team 
> > Vestas Wind is aground and planning to abandon ship. Is there any reason 
> > why a professionally crewed yacht with the latest and greatest nav 
> > equipment and shore assistance would come to this? Short of uncharted reefs 
> > but that doesn't sound to likely.
> > I'm curious to know what underwater unknowns you've come across while 
> > offshore.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Brent Driedger
> > 27-5
> > Lake Winnipeg
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Stus-List bird spikes

[Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List]

I used a 200 lbs stainless steel leader wire on the mast head. It runs from
just below the wind sensor unit and to just under the tri-color/anchor
lamp. We added short vertical pieces of the wire from the wind sensor crane
up and pooped around the horizontal wire as well. The Windex has a bird
spike installed. So between the 2 the have managed to keep even the
buzzards and Osprey off the masthead.

My dock neighbors are not so lucky and this fall alone all 6 have lost
their Windexs and suffered damaged to the wind sensors as well.

Jack Fitzgerald
C&C 39 TM
Savannah, GA



On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 9:33 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List  wrote:

> Saw a suggestion in one of my books for birds but never tried it:
> It said to rig a fishing line about 2" higher than the spreader from mast
> to the shroud, and rig a line at mast top from windspeed sensor mast to
> windex mast, 2" above the mast top.  Birds either trip on the line or avoid
> it.
>
>
>
>
> Chuck
> Resolute
> 1990 C&C 34R
> Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
>
> --
> *From: *"CNC boat owners, cnc-list" 
> *To: *"CNC boat owners, cnc-list" 
> *Sent: *Saturday, November 29, 2014 7:52:51 PM
> *Subject: *Stus-List bird spikes
>
>
> Does anyone know a good place to buy bird spikes for the top of the
> spreaders?  I saw someone putting them up and it looked like they had that
> 3M super industrial tape on them.
>
>
> Joe Della Barba
> Coquina
> 35 MK I
>
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Re: Stus-List Navigation

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

And if I recall correctly during the previous (or was it two races ago?) Volvo 
Race, one boat grounded hard in the Baltics due to some invalid depth 
measurements (and we are not even talking about “out of the 1st world” area).

Marek (in Ottawa)

From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 8:35 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation

I am not sure where “where ever” is, but some areas out of the 1st world are 
using surveys from 100-200 years ago to make those electronic charts. Recently 
the US Navy drove a minesweeper onto a reef for just this reason. Also note the 
vector chart plotters will lose major details when zoomed out, including entire 
islands. This resulted in a multiple fatality in California recently.

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina

C&C 35 MK I

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Letsgo 
Sailing via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 6:59 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation

 

I used C-Map on Standard Horizon chartplotter and where ever I have sailed they 
where accurate to the foot. 

 

Yanni Boatless in Ontario

Not for long…

 

92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible

95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible

07 Yamaha Straotoliner S

SCRC 011059

SRO 26-6483

 

TURBO!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!!

Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes?

Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Colin 
Kilgour via CnC-List
Sent: November 30, 2014 10:52 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com; Kevin Driscoll
Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation

 

Just because charts are digital doesn't mean they are accurate. 

Many digital charts are based on soundings that may literally be hundreds of 
years old and would certainly predate GPS. 

I was in Panama this summer and my Navionics gold charts would have had me 
drive over a bunch of reefs if I had let them.   (I used paper charts from the 
cruising guide which were spot on) 

I'm not sure what the chart accuracy is in that part of the world,  but if 
there was any question of dodgy charts,  the race committee ought to have given 
that area a wide berth.   It would have been simple to set up a waypoint well 
offshore in deep water.   Putting people at risk that way is irresponsible,  
imo. 

Cheers 
Colin 

On Nov 29, 2014 10:57 PM, "Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List"  
wrote:

  I heard it was a classic case of being too far zoomed out on the chart 
plotter. At least that's what the Volvo website alluded to. 

  On Sat, Nov 29, 2014, 12:03 PM Don Newman via CnC-List 
 wrote:

They were hit by Cyclone Suzie.
Reported grounded Cargo Carajos Shoals, Mauritius 12 hours later.


Don Newman
905 547 1750

> On Nov 29, 2014, at 13:58, Brent Driedger via CnC-List 
 wrote:
>
> Sorry, this isn't C&C specific but important to our sport. Currently Team 
Vestas Wind is aground and planning to abandon ship. Is there any reason why a 
professionally crewed yacht with the latest and greatest nav equipment and 
shore assistance would come to this? Short of uncharted reefs but that doesn't 
sound to likely.
> I'm curious to know what underwater unknowns you've come across while 
offshore.
>
> Cheers
> Brent Driedger
> 27-5
> Lake Winnipeg
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Stus-List smart phone navigation programs

[Fred Hazzard via CnC-List]

What to listers like for navigation programs/charting for smart phones.

I have a Droid mini.

Fred Hazzard
S/V Fury
C&C 44
Portland, Or
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Re: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Mx mariner.  Cheap and works with active captain.  Charts get downloaded
for free and stay on device.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Dec 1, 2014 1:06 PM, "Fred Hazzard via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> What to listers like for navigation programs/charting for smart phones.
>
> I have a Droid mini.
>
> Fred Hazzard
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I have Garmin and Navionics on my iPad. I prefer the Navionics.

Joel
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On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Mx mariner.  Cheap and works with active captain.  Charts get downloaded
> for free and stay on device.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> On Dec 1, 2014 1:06 PM, "Fred Hazzard via CnC-List" 
> wrote:
>
>> What to listers like for navigation programs/charting for smart phones.
>>
>> I have a Droid mini.
>>
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Re: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I like the Navionics app I have on my iPhone.

Joe Della Barba
Coquina
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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs

What to listers like for navigation programs/charting for smart phones.

I have a Droid mini.

Fred Hazzard
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C&C 44
Portland, Or
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Stus-List Two paint questions

[Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List]

 Hi David, I'm with Josh on this.

 We had ours taken to the gelcoat last spring as well (Apparently the 1st
 time ever on my boat..) it had the original old style tar looking barrier
 coat stuff which had peeled off in multiple places.. The only sign of a
 possible blister was one little pin-prick the size of an eraser head
 despite the multiple bare spots..

 My very experienced guy doing the bottom strongly advised against a new
 barrier coat. He said: Your boat is still very dry but any moisture
 present would be contained by the barrier coat / could possibly create new
 problems you obviously don't have at this point.  He said that he's tried
 it / been pursuaded to do over the decades but finally concluded that
 overall, unless it was applied on a brand new boat or one that had been
 stored inside for several months,  it was a bad idea..

 Plus as Josh said, C&C was among the early adopters for blister resistant
 gelcoat. Our boat used the Hydrex Isophtalic NPG which is close to a
 modern vinylester it its ability to resist blisters / uv rays / oxidation.
 You can see more details about the boat's construction here:
 http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/reviews/review34-36.htm  or google "Hydrex
 Isophtalic NPG" for more details.

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Re: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs

[John Pennie via CnC-List]

InavX (navionics charts) is still king as far as anything I've seen.

John


Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 1, 2014, at 2:12 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I like the Navionics app I have on my iPhone.
>  
> Joe Della Barba
> Coquina
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> Subject: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs
>  
> What to listers like for navigation programs/charting for smart phones.
>  
> I have a Droid mini.
>  
> Fred Hazzard
> S/V Fury
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Re: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs

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I like iNavX for the US government charts that come with it. Outside the U.S. I 
use navionics and have been very pleased with them for the most part. But as 
has been noted, all the hazards do not show up until you zoom in.

Andy
C&C 40 
Peregrine

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
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> On Dec 1, 2014, at 14:21, John Pennie via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> InavX (navionics charts) is still king as far as anything I've seen.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Dec 1, 2014, at 2:12 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I like the Navionics app I have on my iPhone.
>>  
>> Joe Della Barba
>> Coquina
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Fred 
>> Hazzard via CnC-List
>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 2:06 PM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs
>>  
>> What to listers like for navigation programs/charting for smart phones.
>>  
>> I have a Droid mini.
>>  
>> Fred Hazzard
>> S/V Fury
>> C&C 44
>> Portland, Or
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Re: Stus-List Navigation

[Leslie Paal via CnC-List]

and sometimes there are plain errors.  For example the local Long Beach (CA) 
chart's insert for the downtown marina had the wrong longitude number inserted 
at one point.  Off by 0.1 degree, quite a distance.  I reported it some years 
ago, so probably fixed by now.

Leslie

On Mon, 12/1/14, Dennis C. via CnC-List  wrote:

 Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation
 To: "Della Barba, Joe" , "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 

 Date: Monday, December 1, 2014, 5:47 AM
 
 I was
 motoring up a harbor looking at a  nice Raymarine system
 showing the boat going through a sea wall 200 feet west of
 our actual position. 
 Yesterday while motoring in the ICW
 channel in Santa Rosa Sound near Navarre, FL, the
 chartplotter boat took out several of the buoys on the right
 side of the channel. 
 Dennis C.Touché 35-1
 #83Mandeville, LA
 Currently on the hook
 at30 23.054N 86 51.884W
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 On Dec 1,
 2014, at 7:35 AM, "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List"
 
 wrote:
 
 
 
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 I am not sure where “where
 ever” is, but some areas out of the 1st world
 are using surveys from 100-200 years ago to make those
 electronic charts.
  Recently the US Navy drove a minesweeper onto a reef for
 just this reason. Also note the vector chart plotters will
 lose major details when zoomed out, including entire
 islands. This resulted in a multiple fatality in California
 recently. 
    
    
 
 Joe Della Barba
 
 
 Coquina 
 C&C 35 MK I 
 
 
 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]
 On Behalf Of Letsgo Sailing via CnC-List
 
 Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 6:59 AM
 
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation 
 
 
    
 I used C-Map on Standard Horizon
 chartplotter and where ever I have sailed they where
 accurate to the foot.
  
    
 Yanni Boatless in
 Ontario 
 Not for long… 
    
 92 Lebaron 3.0
 convertible 
 95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo
 convertible 
 07 Yamaha Straotoliner
 S 
 SCRC 011059 
 SRO 26-6483 
    
 TURBO!cause bottles are for
 babies and superchargers blow!!! 
 Which would you rather have, go
 fast goodies or shiny shoes? 
 Your feet may look good but if
 your engine blows you ain't going nowhere 
    
    
 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]
 On Behalf Of Colin Kilgour via CnC-List
 
 Sent: November 30, 2014 10:52 AM
 
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com;
 Kevin Driscoll
 
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation 
 
   
 Just because charts are digital
 doesn't mean they are accurate.
  
 Many digital charts are based on
 soundings that may literally be hundreds of years old and
 would certainly predate GPS.
  
 I was in Panama this summer and my
 Navionics gold charts would have had me drive over a bunch
 of reefs if I had let them.   (I used paper charts from
 the cruising guide which were spot on)
  
 I'm not sure what the chart
 accuracy is in that part of the world,  but if there was
 any question of dodgy charts,  the race committee ought to
 have given that area a wide berth.   It would have been
 simple to set up a waypoint well offshore
  in deep water.   Putting people at risk that way is
 irresponsible,  imo.  
 Cheers 
 
 Colin  
 
 On Nov
 29, 2014 10:57 PM, "Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List"
 
 wrote: 
 
 I heard it
 was a classic case of being too far zoomed out on the chart
 plotter. At least that's what the Volvo website alluded
 to.
  
 
 On Sat,
 Nov 29, 2014, 12:03 PM Don Newman via CnC-List 
 wrote: 
 
 They were
 hit by Cyclone Suzie.
 
 Reported grounded Cargo Carajos Shoals, Mauritius 12 hours
 later.
 
 
 
 
 
 Don Newman
 
 905 547 1750
 
 
 
 > On Nov 29, 2014, at 13:58, Brent Driedger via CnC-List
 
 wrote:
 
 >
 
 > Sorry, this isn't C&C specific but important to
 our sport. Currently Team Vestas Wind is aground and
 planning to abandon ship. Is there any reason why a
 professionally crewed yacht with the latest and greatest nav
 equipment and shore assistance would come
  to thi

Re: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs

[Jerome Tauber via CnC-List]

I use Plan2Nav Jeppesen Marine with Jeppesen Charts.   App is free.   Charts 
for NorthEast Atlantic are $29.   Jerry
 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
To: John Pennie ; cnc-list 
Sent: Mon, Dec 1, 2014 3:00 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs



I like iNavX for the US government charts that come with it. Outside the U.S. I 
use navionics and have been very pleased with them for the most part. But as 
has been noted, all the hazards do not show up until you zoom in.


Andy
C&C 40 
Peregrine

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI 
USA02840


http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260


On Dec 1, 2014, at 14:21, John Pennie via CnC-List  
wrote:



InavX (navionics charts) is still king as far as anything I've seen.


John


Sent from my iPad

On Dec 1, 2014, at 2:12 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
 wrote:




I like the Navionics app I have on my iPhone.
 
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
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via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 2:06 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs
 

What to listers like for navigation programs/charting for smart phones.

 

I have a Droid mini.

 

Fred Hazzard

S/V Fury

C&C 44

Portland, Or



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Re: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Ditto. 

Dennis C.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 1, 2014, at 1:12 PM, "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
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> I like the Navionics app I have on my iPhone.
>  
> Joe Della Barba
> Coquina
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>  
> What to listers like for navigation programs/charting for smart phones.
>  
> I have a Droid mini.
>  
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Re: Stus-List ; Oil and Water Temp gauge sending units;

[Richard N. Bush via CnC-List]

 I am in need of the lists' collective institutional knowledge; I bought two 
teleflex gauges; one for oil pressure, and the other Water temp; I need to 
order the sending units;
I have a 1985 Yanmar 3HMF (1985 C&C 37); the engine has never had these gauges; 
I called the tech dept for teleflex; they gave me a Sierra Part number for the 
oil gauge sender; (18-5899), but 
 for the water temp gauge they tell me I need to know the thread size for the 
engine to know which sending unit to purchase; there are four different units; 
(18-5896; TS-1/4-18; TS 3/8-18; TS 1/2-18)
I am not a mechanic and have no idea how to find this information; I do have 
all of the Yanmar service manuals and parts manuals; is this information in the 
manuals or how can I find this out? Many thanks  

 


Richard
1985 C&C 37 CB; 

Richard N. Bush
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
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Re: Stus-List ; Oil and Water Temp gauge sending units;

[George Cone via CnC-List]

The measurements you are giving for the sender are SAE- not metric, you will
have to setup and converter anyway

George

C & C 40

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Richard
N. Bush via CnC-List
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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List ; Oil and Water Temp gauge sending units;

 

I am in need of the lists' collective institutional knowledge; I bought two
teleflex gauges; one for oil pressure, and the other Water temp; I need to
order the sending units;
I have a 1985 Yanmar 3HMF (1985 C&C 37); the engine has never had these
gauges; I called the tech dept for teleflex; they gave me a Sierra Part
number for the oil gauge sender; (18-5899), but 
 for the water temp gauge they tell me I need to know the thread size for
the engine to know which sending unit to purchase; there are four different
units; (18-5896; TS-1/4-18; TS 3/8-18; TS 1/2-18)
I am not a mechanic and have no idea how to find this information; I do have
all of the Yanmar service manuals and parts manuals; is this information in
the manuals or how can I find this out? Many thanks  

 

Richard

1985 C&C 37 CB; 

Richard N. Bush
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255

 

 

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Re: Stus-List ; Oil and Water Temp gauge sending units;

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

The guy on this link has the whole project figured out.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

http://www.greentractortalk.com/forums/sub-compact-utility-tractors-scut/2467-2210-installation-water-volt-oil-gauges.html
On Dec 1, 2014 3:59 PM, "Richard N. Bush via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

>  I am in need of the lists' collective institutional knowledge; I bought
> two teleflex gauges; one for oil pressure, and the other Water temp; I need
> to order the sending units;
> I have a 1985 Yanmar 3HMF (1985 C&C 37); the engine has never had these
> gauges; I called the tech dept for teleflex; they gave me a Sierra Part
> number for the oil gauge sender; (18-5899), but
>  for the water temp gauge they tell me I need to know the thread size for
> the engine to know which sending unit to purchase; there are four different
> units; (18-5896; TS-1/4-18; TS 3/8-18; TS 1/2-18)
> I am not a mechanic and have no idea how to find this information; I do
> have all of the Yanmar service manuals and parts manuals; is this
> information in the manuals or how can I find this out? Many thanks
>
>  Richard
> 1985 C&C 37 CB;
>
> Richard N. Bush
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
> 502-584-7255
>
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Re: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs

[Ed Dooley via CnC-List]

Navionics on my iPhone. It¹s the only experience I have with mobile charts.
Works great here on Lake Champlain,
not the most challenging waters. Here¹s the Droid version link:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Navionics&hl=en

Ed




From: Fred Hazzard 
What to listers like for navigation programs/charting for smart phones.

I have a Droid mini.

Fred Hazzard
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C&C 44
Portland, Or

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Re: Stus-List ; Oil and Water Temp gauge sending units;

[Letsgo Sailing via CnC-List]

All the sending units are in SAE pipe thread. My 2GM had 3/8-18  NPT

 

Yanni Boatless in Ontario

Not for long.

 

92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible

95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible

07 Yamaha Straotoliner S

SCRC 011059

SRO 26-6483

 

TURBO!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!!

Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes?

Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of George
Cone via CnC-List
Sent: December 1, 2014 5:05 PM
To: 'Richard N. Bush'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List ; Oil and Water Temp gauge sending units;

 

The measurements you are giving for the sender are SAE- not metric, you will
have to setup and converter anyway

George

C & C 40

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Richard
N. Bush via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 4:59 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com  
Subject: Re: Stus-List ; Oil and Water Temp gauge sending units;

 

I am in need of the lists' collective institutional knowledge; I bought two
teleflex gauges; one for oil pressure, and the other Water temp; I need to
order the sending units;
I have a 1985 Yanmar 3HMF (1985 C&C 37); the engine has never had these
gauges; I called the tech dept for teleflex; they gave me a Sierra Part
number for the oil gauge sender; (18-5899), but 
 for the water temp gauge they tell me I need to know the thread size for
the engine to know which sending unit to purchase; there are four different
units; (18-5896; TS-1/4-18; TS 3/8-18; TS 1/2-18)
I am not a mechanic and have no idea how to find this information; I do have
all of the Yanmar service manuals and parts manuals; is this information in
the manuals or how can I find this out? Many thanks  

 

Richard

1985 C&C 37 CB; 

Richard N. Bush
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255

 

 

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Re: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs

[Letsgo Sailing via CnC-List]

Not very challenging unless you sail the north exit to Richelieu river,
01:00 hours in the dark with rain that couldn't see the end of the boom.

 

Yanni Boatless in Ontario

Not for long.

 

92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible

95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible

07 Yamaha Straotoliner S

SCRC 011059

SRO 26-6483

 

TURBO!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!!

Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes?

Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ed Dooley
via CnC-List
Sent: December 1, 2014 5:14 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs

 

Navionics on my iPhone. It's the only experience I have with mobile charts.
Works great here on Lake Champlain,
not the most challenging waters. Here's the Droid version link:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Navionics
 &hl=en

Ed




From: Fred Hazzard mailto:fshazz...@gmail.com> >
What to listers like for navigation programs/charting for smart phones.

I have a Droid mini.

Fred Hazzard
S/V Fury
C&C 44
Portland, Or

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Re: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs

[Ed Dooley via CnC-List]

I would have dropped anchor at the North Hero House, had a great dinner, and
waited it out. My Navionics
knows how to get me there.  :-)
Ed



From: Letsgo Sailing 
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 17:52:58 -0500
To: 'Ed Dooley' , 
Subject: RE: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs

Not very challenging unless you sail the north exit to Richelieu river,
01:00 hours in the dark with rain that couldn¹t see the end of the boom.
 

Yanni Boatless in Ontario
Not for longŠ
 
92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible
95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible
07 Yamaha Straotoliner S
SCRC 011059
SRO 26-6483
 
TURBO!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!!
Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes?
Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere
 
 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ed Dooley
via CnC-List
Sent: December 1, 2014 5:14 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs
 
Navionics on my iPhone. It¹s the only experience I have with mobile charts.
Works great here on Lake Champlain,
not the most challenging waters. Here¹s the Droid version link:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Navionics&hl=en

Ed




From: Fred Hazzard 
What to listers like for navigation programs/charting for smart phones.

I have a Droid mini.

Fred Hazzard
S/V Fury
C&C 44
Portland, Or


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Re: Stus-List bird spikes

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

I would think a “burger on a pig stick” would attract them like crazy…   :^)

I love spell-check.

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Nov 30, 2014, at 8:52 PM, Indigo via CnC-List  wrote:

> At the masthead my burger on a pig stick keeps the "rats" away.

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Re: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs

[Letsgo Sailing via CnC-List]

Ed I didn't have that choice. I had to deliver the boat in Hamilton and the
Erie canal lock 10 had collapsed the  night before I got to Waterford which
added 4.5 days to my trip and having to deal with the French. 

 

Yanni Boatless in Ontario

Not for long.

 

92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible

95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible

07 Yamaha Straotoliner S

SCRC 011059

SRO 26-6483

 

TURBO!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!!

Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes?

Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ed Dooley
via CnC-List
Sent: December 1, 2014 5:58 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs

 

I would have dropped anchor at the North Hero House, had a great dinner, and
waited it out. My Navionics
knows how to get me there.  :-)
Ed



  _  

From: Letsgo Sailing mailto:letsgosail...@live.ca> >
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 17:52:58 -0500
To: 'Ed Dooley' mailto:edoo...@madriver.com> >,
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Subject: RE: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs

Not very challenging unless you sail the north exit to Richelieu river,
01:00 hours in the dark with rain that couldn't see the end of the boom.
 

Yanni Boatless in Ontario
Not for long.
 
92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible
95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible
07 Yamaha Straotoliner S
SCRC 011059
SRO 26-6483
 
TURBO!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!!
Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes?
Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere
 
 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ed Dooley
via CnC-List
Sent: December 1, 2014 5:14 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com  
Subject: Re: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs

Navionics on my iPhone. It's the only experience I have with mobile charts.
Works great here on Lake Champlain,
not the most challenging waters. Here's the Droid version link:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Navionics
 &hl=en

Ed




From: Fred Hazzard mailto:fshazz...@gmail.com> >
What to listers like for navigation programs/charting for smart phones.

I have a Droid mini.

Fred Hazzard
S/V Fury
C&C 44
Portland, Or

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Re: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs

[Ed Dooley via CnC-List]

No criticism intended. Too bad you didn¹t get to spend some time on the
lake, it¹s beautiful with
the Green Mountains to the East and the Adirondacks to the West.
Ed



From: Letsgo Sailing 
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 18:02:12 -0500
To: 'Ed Dooley' , 
Subject: RE: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs

Ed I didn¹t have that choice. I had to deliver the boat in Hamilton and the
Erie canal lock 10 had collapsed the  night before I got to Waterford which
added 4.5 days to my trip and having to deal with the French.
 

Yanni Boatless in Ontario
Not for longŠ
 
92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible
95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible
07 Yamaha Straotoliner S
SCRC 011059
SRO 26-6483
 
TURBO!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!!
Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes?
Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere
 
 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ed Dooley
via CnC-List
Sent: December 1, 2014 5:58 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs
 
I would have dropped anchor at the North Hero House, had a great dinner, and
waited it out. My Navionics
knows how to get me there.  :-)
Ed


From: Letsgo Sailing 
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 17:52:58 -0500
To: 'Ed Dooley' , 
Subject: RE: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs

Not very challenging unless you sail the north exit to Richelieu river,
01:00 hours in the dark with rain that couldn¹t see the end of the boom.
 

Yanni Boatless in Ontario
Not for longŠ
 
92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible
95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible
07 Yamaha Straotoliner S
SCRC 011059
SRO 26-6483
 
TURBO!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!!
Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes?
Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere
 
 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ed Dooley
via CnC-List
Sent: December 1, 2014 5:14 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs

Navionics on my iPhone. It¹s the only experience I have with mobile charts.
Works great here on Lake Champlain,
not the most challenging waters. Here¹s the Droid version link:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Navionics&hl=en

Ed




From: Fred Hazzard 
What to listers like for navigation programs/charting for smart phones.

I have a Droid mini.

Fred Hazzard
S/V Fury
C&C 44
Portland, Or


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Re: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs

[Sam Salter via CnC-List]

I’ve got iNavX and iSailor on my iPad.

I prefer iNavX.


Just got back from 10 days in the BVI’s on a 52ft Benneteau.

Great sailing, especially out on the Atlantic side of Virgin Gorda where the 
water drops off to a mile deep - very rough!


iNavX worked perfectly the whole trip.

I suspect most of the maps are based on 200 year old soundings by the British 
and Dutch - but we didn’t hit anything.





sam :-)






From: CnC
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎December‎ ‎01‎, ‎2014 ‎12‎:‎21‎ ‎PM
To: Della Barba, Joe, CnC





InavX (navionics charts) is still king as far as anything I've seen.




John



Sent from my iPad


On Dec 1, 2014, at 2:12 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
 wrote:






I like the Navionics app I have on my iPhone.

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina

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via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 2:06 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs

 



What to listers like for navigation programs/charting for smart phones.


 


I have a Droid mini.


 


Fred Hazzard


S/V Fury


C&C 44


Portland, Or


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Re: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs

[Letsgo Sailing via CnC-List]

I am sorry Ed I didn't take it that way.  I am looking forward to sail Lake
Champlain one day for pleasure.  I know it is beautiful and deep.  

 

Yanni Boatless in Ontario

Not for long.

 

92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible

95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible

07 Yamaha Straotoliner S

SCRC 011059

SRO 26-6483

 

TURBO!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!!

Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes?

Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ed Dooley
via CnC-List
Sent: December 1, 2014 6:06 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs

 

No criticism intended. Too bad you didn't get to spend some time on the
lake, it's beautiful with
the Green Mountains to the East and the Adirondacks to the West.
Ed



  _  

From: Letsgo Sailing mailto:letsgosail...@live.ca> >
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 18:02:12 -0500
To: 'Ed Dooley' mailto:edoo...@madriver.com> >,
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Subject: RE: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs

Ed I didn't have that choice. I had to deliver the boat in Hamilton and the
Erie canal lock 10 had collapsed the  night before I got to Waterford which
added 4.5 days to my trip and having to deal with the French. 
 

Yanni Boatless in Ontario
Not for long.
 
92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible
95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible
07 Yamaha Straotoliner S
SCRC 011059
SRO 26-6483
 
TURBO!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!!
Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes?
Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere
 
 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ed Dooley
via CnC-List
Sent: December 1, 2014 5:58 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com  
Subject: Re: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs

I would have dropped anchor at the North Hero House, had a great dinner, and
waited it out. My Navionics
knows how to get me there.  :-)
Ed

  _  

From: Letsgo Sailing mailto:letsgosail...@live.ca> >
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 17:52:58 -0500
To: 'Ed Dooley' mailto:edoo...@madriver.com> >,
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Subject: RE: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs

Not very challenging unless you sail the north exit to Richelieu river,
01:00 hours in the dark with rain that couldn't see the end of the boom.
 

Yanni Boatless in Ontario
Not for long.
 
92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible
95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible
07 Yamaha Straotoliner S
SCRC 011059
SRO 26-6483
 
TURBO!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!!
Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes?
Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere
 
 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ed Dooley
via CnC-List
Sent: December 1, 2014 5:14 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com  
Subject: Re: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs

Navionics on my iPhone. It's the only experience I have with mobile charts.
Works great here on Lake Champlain,
not the most challenging waters. Here's the Droid version link:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Navionics
 &hl=en

Ed




From: Fred Hazzard mailto:fshazz...@gmail.com> >
What to listers like for navigation programs/charting for smart phones.

I have a Droid mini.

Fred Hazzard
S/V Fury
C&C 44
Portland, Or

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Re: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs

[Ed Dooley via CnC-List]

Four hundred feet at the deepest, right out of my bay. Short chop and 
fast-changing wind direction.
Ed

> On Dec 1, 2014, at 8:02 PM, Letsgo Sailing  wrote:
> 
> I am sorry Ed I didn’t take it that way.  I am looking forward to sail Lake 
> Champlain one day for pleasure.  I know it is beautiful and deep.  
>  
> Yanni Boatless in Ontario
> Not for long…
>  
> 92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible
> 95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible
> 07 Yamaha Straotoliner S
> SCRC 011059
> SRO 26-6483
>  
> TURBO!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!!
> Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes?
> Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere
>  
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ed Dooley 
> via CnC-List
> Sent: December 1, 2014 6:06 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs
>  
> No criticism intended. Too bad you didn’t get to spend some time on the lake, 
> it’s beautiful with
> the Green Mountains to the East and the Adirondacks to the West.
> Ed
> 
> 
> From: Letsgo Sailing 
> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 18:02:12 -0500
> To: 'Ed Dooley' , 
> Subject: RE: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs
> 
> Ed I didn’t have that choice. I had to deliver the boat in Hamilton and the 
> Erie canal lock 10 had collapsed the  night before I got to Waterford which 
> added 4.5 days to my trip and having to deal with the French. 
>  
> 
> Yanni Boatless in Ontario
> Not for long…
>  
> 92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible
> 95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible
> 07 Yamaha Straotoliner S
> SCRC 011059
> SRO 26-6483
>  
> TURBO!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!!
> Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes?
> Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere
>  
>  
> 
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ed Dooley 
> via CnC-List
> Sent: December 1, 2014 5:58 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs
> 
> I would have dropped anchor at the North Hero House, had a great dinner, and 
> waited it out. My Navionics
> knows how to get me there.  :-)
> Ed
> From: Letsgo Sailing 
> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 17:52:58 -0500
> To: 'Ed Dooley' , 
> Subject: RE: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs
> 
> Not very challenging unless you sail the north exit to Richelieu river, 01:00 
> hours in the dark with rain that couldn’t see the end of the boom.
>  
> 
> Yanni Boatless in Ontario
> Not for long…
>  
> 92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible
> 95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible
> 07 Yamaha Straotoliner S
> SCRC 011059
> SRO 26-6483
>  
> TURBO!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!!
> Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes?
> Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere
>  
>  
> 
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ed Dooley 
> via CnC-List
> Sent: December 1, 2014 5:14 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List smart phone navigation programs
> 
> Navionics on my iPhone. It’s the only experience I have with mobile charts. 
> Works great here on Lake Champlain,
> not the most challenging waters. Here’s the Droid version link:
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Navionics&hl=en
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Fred Hazzard 
> What to listers like for navigation programs/charting for smart phones.
> 
> I have a Droid mini.
> 
> Fred Hazzard
> S/V Fury
> C&C 44
> Portland, Or
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Re: Stus-List bird spikes

[Alan Bergen via CnC-List]

I just ordered spikes from Wal-mart. After two years of being bombarded by 
cormorants, it's time to fight back. 

Alan Bergen 
35 Mk III Thirsty 
Rose City YC 
Portland, OR 
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Stus-List headroom on C&C 36?

[Lee Youngblood via CnC-List]

Hi All,

Anyone know the standing headroom on a C&C 36?

Sailboat data list the design as a 1977, but no info as to how many 
they made.  I've sailed on one, heavier than the 35-III, similar 
interior design, but slower - we didn't have much wind. . .


I sure hope someone can give me a headroom number in the galley, 
saloon, and at the mast.


Thanks, Lee

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