And if I recall correctly during the previous (or was it two races ago?) Volvo 
Race, one boat grounded hard in the Baltics due to some invalid depth 
measurements (and we are not even talking about “out of the 1st world” area).

Marek (in Ottawa)

From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 8:35 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation

I am not sure where “where ever” is, but some areas out of the 1st world are 
using surveys from 100-200 years ago to make those electronic charts. Recently 
the US Navy drove a minesweeper onto a reef for just this reason. Also note the 
vector chart plotters will lose major details when zoomed out, including entire 
islands. This resulted in a multiple fatality in California recently.

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina

C&C 35 MK I

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Letsgo 
Sailing via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 6:59 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation

 

I used C-Map on Standard Horizon chartplotter and where ever I have sailed they 
where accurate to the foot. 

 

Yanni Boatless in Ontario

Not for long…

 

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95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible

07 Yamaha Straotoliner S

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SRO 26-6483

 

TURBO!!!!!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!!

Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes?

Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Colin 
Kilgour via CnC-List
Sent: November 30, 2014 10:52 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com; Kevin Driscoll
Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation

 

Just because charts are digital doesn't mean they are accurate. 

Many digital charts are based on soundings that may literally be hundreds of 
years old and would certainly predate GPS. 

I was in Panama this summer and my Navionics gold charts would have had me 
drive over a bunch of reefs if I had let them.   (I used paper charts from the 
cruising guide which were spot on) 

I'm not sure what the chart accuracy is in that part of the world,  but if 
there was any question of dodgy charts,  the race committee ought to have given 
that area a wide berth.   It would have been simple to set up a waypoint well 
offshore in deep water.   Putting people at risk that way is irresponsible,  
imo. 

Cheers 
Colin 

On Nov 29, 2014 10:57 PM, "Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:

  I heard it was a classic case of being too far zoomed out on the chart 
plotter. At least that's what the Volvo website alluded to. 

  On Sat, Nov 29, 2014, 12:03 PM Don Newman via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

    They were hit by Cyclone Suzie.
    Reported grounded Cargo Carajos Shoals, Mauritius 12 hours later.


    Don Newman
    905 547 1750

    > On Nov 29, 2014, at 13:58, Brent Driedger via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
    >
    > Sorry, this isn't C&C specific but important to our sport. Currently Team 
Vestas Wind is aground and planning to abandon ship. Is there any reason why a 
professionally crewed yacht with the latest and greatest nav equipment and 
shore assistance would come to this? Short of uncharted reefs but that doesn't 
sound to likely.
    > I'm curious to know what underwater unknowns you've come across while 
offshore.
    >
    > Cheers
    > Brent Driedger
    > 27-5
    > Lake Winnipeg
    >
    > Sent from my iPhone
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