Re: Stus-List Security question + hurricanes

[Joe Della Barba]

Usually insurance holds everyone in the Bay until around the end of October 
before they can go farther south. This has caused the Annapolis Boat Show to be 
the traditional get together of the southbound cruising community.

 

 

Joe Della Barba

j...@dellabarba.com

From: Dennis C. [mailto:capt...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 11:12 PM
To: j...@dellabarba.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Security question

 

Joe,

 

Please explain insurance deadline. End of hurricane season?

 

Dennis C.

Touché 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA 

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On Apr 26, 2013, at 9:05 PM, "Joe Della Barba" mailto:j...@dellabarba.com> > wrote:

Live-aboards and homeless people finding an abandoned boat on the hard are not 
the exact same thing. Also note that while 99% of cruisers are great people, 
when I had a marine business well over 90% of the theft losses for the entire 
YEAR were in October. For those that don’t know, all the southbound cruisers 
are in the Bay in October waiting for the insurance deadline to head south. 
There are “five finger discounters” in that fleet.

 

Joe Della Barba

j...@dellabarba.com  

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j...@svpaws.net  
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 5:03 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com  
Subject: Re: Stus-List Security question

 

Actually, my experience has been that the live aboards are by far your best 
protection.  Depends on the live aboards of course...

 

Cats, well - now you got a problem

 

John



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On Apr 26, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Stevan Plavsa mailto:stevanpla...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I'm on a mooring and there is a beach nearby. Outboards have been stolen at our 
club, we're downtown and kids hang out on the shore and I'm pretty sure they 
either swim out to boats at night to party or take canoes or something. Either 
way, I don't want no stinking kids in my boat!

Where I'm dry docked right now is super sketchy too. Club didn't have enough 
depth to haul me last year. Some stray cats have been using my cockpit as a 
washroom. People live at this yard all year round .. under tarped over derelict 
boats. It's a scary place. 

 

 

Steve

C&C 32

Toronto

 

On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 12:40 PM, j...@svpaws.net   
mailto:j...@svpaws.net> > wrote:

Many years ago I found myself in a new marina and had forgotten my boat keys.  
It took me 2 minutes to break into the boat, nobody questioned why I was sawing 
through a lock.  Never bothered locking my boat again.

John



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On Apr 26, 2013, at 11:35 AM, Joel Aronson mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com> > wrote:

> I lock the cabin and lazarette.
>
> Does anyone lock the anchor locker?
>
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> Joel
> 301 541 8551  

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Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

[sander]

Hi listers,Thank you all again for helping me with the information request a couple of days ago.Today I went to meet with the seller (a boat repair shop) and to inspect the boat. It's definitely a Mk1. Before you read further, I have pictures so drop me a line if you're interested in seeing them.The boat has been stripped completely, and I do mean EVERYTHING has been taken off and out. The hull is an empty shell. The former owner was going to fix the deck around the stanchion bases and do a complete repaint, but after disassembly and initial sanding, he went awol and left the seller with the boat in its current state. The deck repairs are half done: the rotten core is removed and new waterproof plywood sawed in shape to fit. The seller showed me all the stuff that belonged to this boat, which was a couple of pallets and boxes full. There is no way to tell for certain if it's all complete, unless one knows exactly what should go where on the C&C. There are instruments, but they may not function. The inboard engine (old Volvo Penta sail drive with Honda 4-stroke block) may or may not function. By the way, the cockpit floor does have an access hatch to the engine bay like some of you mentioned.The hull looks very strong and in good shape. The deck, other than around the stanchion bases, looks and sounds good. I really like its lines.The work on this boat will take me the entire summer for certain, and likely part of the fall/winter, if I decide to buy it.- Complete the deck repairs(seller is willing to help me with that);- Full paint job, inside and outside;- Restoration of all woodwork in the interior, top to bottom;- Electric installations (I forgot to ask about the wiring);- Plumbing (sink, toilet);- All hardware needs to be cleaned;- Assembly of, well, everything;- Sail off into the sunset!The good about all this, is that when it's finished I'll have a practically brand new boat with many years of sailing fun and no headaches. The seller is eager to get rid of it and has already made it clear that the price is negotiable.But the amount of work seems staggering. And I will need a dry place to work for a long period, not too far away from home.I'm curious, what would you offer for a boat in this state? Would you even consider buying it or would you run away screaming?I got the impression I'm the first person seriously interested in the boat. The seller is not willing to restore the boat before selling it, unless his crew is out of work. I've seen the place, they got plenty of work. So the boat may even end up on the scrapyard :(I could really use some good advice.Regards,Sander

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Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

[Knowles Rich]

My first thought: Run, Sander, run!

Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax

On 2013-04-27, at 11:33,  wrote:

Hi listers,

Thank you all again for helping me with the information request a couple of 
days ago.
Today I went to meet with the seller (a boat repair shop) and to inspect the 
boat. It's definitely a Mk1. 
Before you read further, I have pictures so drop me a line if you're interested 
in seeing them.

The boat has been stripped completely, and I do mean EVERYTHING has been taken 
off and out. The hull is an empty shell. The former owner was going to fix the 
deck around the stanchion bases and do a complete repaint, but after 
disassembly and initial sanding, he went awol and left the seller with the boat 
in its current state. The deck repairs are half done: the rotten core is 
removed and new waterproof plywood sawed in shape to fit. 
The seller showed me all the stuff that belonged to this boat, which was a 
couple of pallets and boxes full. There is no way to tell for certain if it's 
all complete, unless one knows exactly what should go where on the C&C. There 
are instruments, but they may not function. The inboard engine (old Volvo Penta 
sail drive with Honda 4-stroke block) may or may not function. By the way, the 
cockpit floor does have an access hatch to the engine bay like some of you 
mentioned.
The hull looks very strong and in good shape. The deck, other than around the 
stanchion bases, looks and sounds good. I really like its lines.

The work on this boat will take me the entire summer for certain, and likely 
part of the fall/winter, if I decide to buy it.
- Complete the deck repairs(seller is willing to help me with that);
- Full paint job, inside and outside;
- Restoration of all woodwork in the interior, top to bottom;
- Electric installations (I forgot to ask about the wiring);
- Plumbing (sink, toilet);
- All hardware needs to be cleaned;
- Assembly of, well, everything;
- Sail off into the sunset!

The good about all this, is that when it's finished I'll have a practically 
brand new boat with many years of sailing fun and no headaches. The seller is 
eager to get rid of it and has already made it clear that the price is 
negotiable.
But the amount of work seems staggering. And I will need a dry place to work 
for a long period, not too far away from home.
I'm curious, what would you offer for a boat in this state? Would you even 
consider buying it or would you run away screaming?

I got the impression I'm the first person seriously interested in the boat. The 
seller is not willing to restore the boat before selling it, unless his crew is 
out of work. I've seen the place, they got plenty of work. So the boat may even 
end up on the scrapyard :(

I could really use some good advice.

Regards,

Sander
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Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

[Knowles Rich]

But, on second thought, I'm approaching your question from an old person's 
view. The mere thought of getting that boat operational from the kit stage it 
is in makes me tired. However, I guess if you are looking for a project and 
willing to invest the time and whatever unknown chunk of cash you will need, 
you may be a very proud father when it's all over. 

Whatever, it's all about having fun, and you know yourself and your needs 
better than anyone else does. 

I suggest going through the mountain of stuff and making sure all the major 
lumps are there. Winches, now casting, Etc.  etc. 

Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax

On 2013-04-27, at 11:33,  wrote:

Hi listers,

Thank you all again for helping me with the information request a couple of 
days ago.
Today I went to meet with the seller (a boat repair shop) and to inspect the 
boat. It's definitely a Mk1. 
Before you read further, I have pictures so drop me a line if you're interested 
in seeing them.

The boat has been stripped completely, and I do mean EVERYTHING has been taken 
off and out. The hull is an empty shell. The former owner was going to fix the 
deck around the stanchion bases and do a complete repaint, but after 
disassembly and initial sanding, he went awol and left the seller with the boat 
in its current state. The deck repairs are half done: the rotten core is 
removed and new waterproof plywood sawed in shape to fit. 
The seller showed me all the stuff that belonged to this boat, which was a 
couple of pallets and boxes full. There is no way to tell for certain if it's 
all complete, unless one knows exactly what should go where on the C&C. There 
are instruments, but they may not function. The inboard engine (old Volvo Penta 
sail drive with Honda 4-stroke block) may or may not function. By the way, the 
cockpit floor does have an access hatch to the engine bay like some of you 
mentioned.
The hull looks very strong and in good shape. The deck, other than around the 
stanchion bases, looks and sounds good. I really like its lines.

The work on this boat will take me the entire summer for certain, and likely 
part of the fall/winter, if I decide to buy it.
- Complete the deck repairs(seller is willing to help me with that);
- Full paint job, inside and outside;
- Restoration of all woodwork in the interior, top to bottom;
- Electric installations (I forgot to ask about the wiring);
- Plumbing (sink, toilet);
- All hardware needs to be cleaned;
- Assembly of, well, everything;
- Sail off into the sunset!

The good about all this, is that when it's finished I'll have a practically 
brand new boat with many years of sailing fun and no headaches. The seller is 
eager to get rid of it and has already made it clear that the price is 
negotiable.
But the amount of work seems staggering. And I will need a dry place to work 
for a long period, not too far away from home.
I'm curious, what would you offer for a boat in this state? Would you even 
consider buying it or would you run away screaming?

I got the impression I'm the first person seriously interested in the boat. The 
seller is not willing to restore the boat before selling it, unless his crew is 
out of work. I've seen the place, they got plenty of work. So the boat may even 
end up on the scrapyard :(

I could really use some good advice.

Regards,

Sander
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Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

[Knowles Rich]

that's bow casting. 

Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax

On 2013-04-27, at 12:04, Knowles Rich  wrote:

> sure all the major lumps are there. Winches, now casting, Etc.  etc.

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Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

[Jim Watts]

I second Rich's first recommendation. There are lots of boats around going
for peanuts, you don't have to buy a kit boat and spend the next two years
rebuilding it and spending far more money than a good boat would have cost.
Run away.


On 27 April 2013 08:06, Knowles Rich  wrote:

> that's bow casting.
>
> Rich Knowles
> Indigo. LF38
> Halifax
>
> On 2013-04-27, at 12:04, Knowles Rich  wrote:
>
> > sure all the major lumps are there. Winches, now casting, Etc.  etc.
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Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

[Steve Thomas]

I would not offer more than $1000 based on your description, and then only if I 
really wanted to undertake a project of that
magnitude.
That is about what I estimate you might get for the lead in the keel, plus the 
rig, saildrive and other fittings if you scrap the
boat. The fibreglass itself might be difficult or expensive to get rid of where 
you live.
You can buy one in useable condition around here on the Great Lakes for 5-6 k$ 
at the right time of year.

One thing is that the Honda / saildrive combo might be a more reliable 
auxiliary, and easier to fix, than the 2 stroke Vires that
most 25s were equipped with. It is almost impossible to find a mechanic around 
here who really knows how to fix a Vire gone bad.
One of our club members with a Vire equipped C&C25 has given up after spending 
a couple of thousand dollars trying to get it
fixed. He went with the outboard solution as the cheapest option.

A friend of mine bought a yard - sitter, a Cal 25, for $300 on Ebay. I thought 
he was nuts, but he didn't have much money and he
had lots of time and energy. In the end I have to admit that for him the 
project worked out ok, and I wound up spending several
days helping him out with it.

The big advantage with building or restoring a boat yourself is that you know 
every system, and every strength or weakness by the
time you are done and ready to go sailing.

It really depends on your particular situation and on what you want.

Steve Thomas
C&C27 MKIII
Port Stanley, ON

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of 
san...@vpilot.net
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 10:33 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself


Hi listers,


Thank you all again for helping me with the information request a couple of 
days ago.
Today I went to meet with the seller (a boat repair shop) and to inspect the 
boat. It's definitely a Mk1.
Before you read further, I have pictures so drop me a line if you're interested 
in seeing them.


The boat has been stripped completely, and I do mean EVERYTHING has been taken 
off and out. The hull is an empty shell. The former
owner was going to fix the deck around the stanchion bases and do a complete 
repaint, but after disassembly and initial sanding,
he went awol and left the seller with the boat in its current state. The deck 
repairs are half done: the rotten core is removed
and new waterproof plywood sawed in shape to fit.
The seller showed me all the stuff that belonged to this boat, which was a 
couple of pallets and boxes full. There is no way to
tell for certain if it's all complete, unless one knows exactly what should go 
where on the C&C. There are instruments, but they
may not function. The inboard engine (old Volvo Penta sail drive with Honda 
4-stroke block) may or may not function. By the way,
the cockpit floor does have an access hatch to the engine bay like some of you 
mentioned.
The hull looks very strong and in good shape. The deck, other than around the 
stanchion bases, looks and sounds good. I really
like its lines.


The work on this boat will take me the entire summer for certain, and likely 
part of the fall/winter, if I decide to buy it.
- Complete the deck repairs(seller is willing to help me with that);
- Full paint job, inside and outside;
- Restoration of all woodwork in the interior, top to bottom;
- Electric installations (I forgot to ask about the wiring);
- Plumbing (sink, toilet);
- All hardware needs to be cleaned;
- Assembly of, well, everything;
- Sail off into the sunset!


The good about all this, is that when it's finished I'll have a practically 
brand new boat with many years of sailing fun and no
headaches. The seller is eager to get rid of it and has already made it clear 
that the price is negotiable.
But the amount of work seems staggering. And I will need a dry place to work 
for a long period, not too far away from home.
I'm curious, what would you offer for a boat in this state? Would you even 
consider buying it or would you run away screaming?


I got the impression I'm the first person seriously interested in the boat. The 
seller is not willing to restore the boat before
selling it, unless his crew is out of work. I've seen the place, they got 
plenty of work. So the boat may even end up on the
scrapyard :(


I could really use some good advice.


Regards,


Sander
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Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

[Chuck S]

Advice is worth what you pay for it. 

My gut says walk away. 
There are so many complete boats for sale right now and "fix'er uppers" litter 
boatyards everywhere. I helped a guy fix up an O'Day 24 that took him 6 years 
to splash. He got the boat for free and spent $6000 on Interlux two part paint, 
a new outboard, and sails, safety gear, electronics, and hardware that was 
missing. After 6 years, he learned how to use West System Epoxy and paint, but 
he knew nothing about how to sail or manuever and had some awful crashes 
learning how to negotiate a dock in river current. He admitted he could have 
bought the boat complete for half of what he had in it. We didn't count the 
storage fees he was paying, or the loss of 6 years sailing time. 

You should be able to find a boat that has been put away well, but the owner 
has lost interest. A boat that was cared for, but has been for sale for a 
couple of years, but is complete, and just needs some cleaning, some caulking 
and maybe some painting. But a boat that has enough stuff to get you on the 
water and out sailing. 

Buying new hardware like fittings or an engine, or a mast for an old boat can 
mean investing thousands to save a hull worth only hundreds and be a waste of 
money. Be aware that anything metal trippled in price between 1995 and 2005. 
The price for anything made for boats increases every year. Electronics lose 
value quickly, but good hardware installed properly on an older quality boat 
has full value, and becomes a bargain. 

If you must make an offer on the 25, I'm sure the owner would give it away to 
anyone willing to remove it from his yard. Right away you will need to buy 
stands or make a trailer and find a shed you'll have to rent. $$$ and no 
sailing. I suggest you look for a more complete boat that will get you on the 
water sooner. 


Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 C&C 34R 
Atlantic City, NJ 
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Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 10:33:09 AM 
Subject: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself 

Hi listers, 


Thank you all again for helping me with the information request a couple of 
days ago. 
Today I went to meet with the seller (a boat repair shop) and to inspect the 
boat. It's definitely a Mk1. 
Before you read further, I have pictures so drop me a line if you're interested 
in seeing them. 


The boat has been stripped completely, and I do mean EVERYTHING has been taken 
off and out. The hull is an empty shell. The former owner was going to fix the 
deck around the stanchion bases and do a complete repaint, but after 
disassembly and initial sanding, he went awol and left the seller with the boat 
in its current state. The deck repairs are half done: the rotten core is 
removed and new waterproof plywood sawed in shape to fit. 
The seller showed me all the stuff that belonged to this boat, which was a 
couple of pallets and boxes full. There is no way to tell for certain if it's 
all complete, unless one knows exactly what should go where on the C&C. There 
are instruments, but they may not function. The inboard engine (old Volvo Penta 
sail drive with Honda 4-stroke block) may or may not function. By the way, the 
cockpit floor does have an access hatch to the engine bay like some of you 
mentioned. 
The hull looks very strong and in good shape. The deck, other than around the 
stanchion bases, looks and sounds good. I really like its lines. 


The work on this boat will take me the entire summer for certain, and likely 
part of the fall/winter, if I decide to buy it. 
- Complete the deck repairs(seller is willing to help me with that); 
- Full paint job, inside and outside; 
- Restoration of all woodwork in the interior, top to bottom; 
- Electric installations (I forgot to ask about the wiring); 
- Plumbing (sink, toilet); 
- All hardware needs to be cleaned; 
- Assembly of, well, everything; 
- Sail off into the sunset! 


The good about all this, is that when it's finished I'll have a practically 
brand new boat with many years of sailing fun and no headaches. The seller is 
eager to get rid of it and has already made it clear that the price is 
negotiable. 
But the amount of work seems staggering. And I will need a dry place to work 
for a long period, not too far away from home. 
I'm curious, what would you offer for a boat in this state? Would you even 
consider buying it or would you run away screaming? 


I got the impression I'm the first person seriously interested in the boat. The 
seller is not willing to restore the boat before selling it, unless his crew is 
out of work. I've seen the place, they got plenty of work. So the boat may even 
end up on the scrapyard :( 


I could really use some good advice. 


Regards, 


Sander 
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Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

[sam . c . salter]

If you're interested in sailing - run away screaming! If you're more interested in DIY buy it. I know a guy who is 8yrs into a 1yr restoration of a stripped Ericsson 30 hull like yours. he's into it for about $80k and he'll be lucky to get $20 for it. ...and he never gets to go sailing! Buy the best boat you can afford and put your time and money into that. Most owners will tell you that just keeping up with upgrades and maintenance is a full time job; a full rebuild is not for the faint of heart. The object of the exercise is to get out on the water.Sam Salter C&C 26 Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta From: san...@vpilot.netSent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 8:33 AMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comReply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.comSubject: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myselfHi listers,Thank you all again for helping me with the information request a couple of days ago.Today I went to meet with the seller (a boat repair shop) and to inspect the boat. It's definitely a Mk1. Before you read further, I have pictures so drop me a line if you're interested in seeing them.The boat has been stripped completely, and I do mean EVERYTHING has been taken off and out. The hull is an empty shell. The former owner was going to fix the deck around the stanchion bases and do a complete repaint, but after disassembly and initial sanding, he went awol and left the seller with the boat in its current state. The deck repairs are half done: the rotten core is removed and new waterproof plywood sawed in shape to fit. The seller showed me all the stuff that belonged to this boat, which was a couple of pallets and boxes full. There is no way to tell for certain if it's all complete, unless one knows exactly what should go where on the C&C. There are instruments, but they may not function. The inboard engine (old Volvo Penta sail drive with Honda 4-stroke block) may or may not function. By the way, the cockpit floor does have an access hatch to the engine bay like some of you mentioned.The hull looks very strong and in good shape. The deck, other than around the stanchion bases, looks and sounds good. I really like its lines.The work on this boat will take me the entire summer for certain, and likely part of the fall/winter, if I decide to buy it.- Complete the deck repairs(seller is willing to help me with that);- Full paint job, inside and outside;- Restoration of all woodwork in the interior, top to bottom;- Electric installations (I forgot to ask about the wiring);- Plumbing (sink, toilet);- All hardware needs to be cleaned;- Assembly of, well, everything;- Sail off into the sunset!The good about all this, is that when it's finished I'll have a practically brand new boat with many years of sailing fun and no headaches. The seller is eager to get rid of it and has already made it clear that the price is negotiable.But the amount of work seems staggering. And I will need a dry place to work for a long period, not too far away from home.I'm curious, what would you offer for a boat in this state? Would you even consider buying it or would you run away screaming?I got the impression I'm the first person seriously interested in the boat. The seller is not willing to restore the boat before selling it, unless his crew is out of work. I've seen the place, they got plenty of work. So the boat may even end up on the scrapyard :(I could really use some good advice.Regards,Sander

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Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

[Leslie Paal]

In the current market conditions the yard should pay you to take over the 
headache.  You can buy a slightly neglected but in good condition boat for the 
same money as you will have to put into this.  Yes, you'll have an almost new 
boat at the end of the restoration, but this does not sound a summer job.  
Unless you can spend many hours a week working on it and you have plenty of 
experience, in which case you do not need our free advise...


Bottom line, RUN!

Leslie
now: Phoenix C&C32
was: Navigo2 C&C25



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Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 7:33 AM
Subject: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself
 


Hi listers,

Thank you all again for helping me with the information request a couple of 
days ago.
Today I went to meet with the seller (a boat repair shop) and to inspect the 
boat. It's definitely a Mk1. 
Before you read further, I have pictures so drop me a line if you're interested 
in seeing them.

The boat has been stripped completely, and I do mean EVERYTHING has been taken 
off and out. The hull is an empty shell. The former owner was going to fix the 
deck around the stanchion bases and do a complete repaint, but after 
disassembly and initial sanding, he went awol and left the seller with the boat 
in its current state. The deck repairs are half done: the rotten core is 
removed and new waterproof plywood sawed in shape to fit. 
The seller showed me all the stuff that belonged to this boat, which was a 
couple of pallets and boxes full. There is no way to tell for certain if it's 
all complete, unless one knows exactly what should go where on the C&C. There 
are instruments, but they may not function. The inboard engine (old Volvo Penta 
sail drive with Honda 4-stroke block) may or may not function. By the way, the 
cockpit floor does have an access hatch to the engine bay like some of you 
mentioned.
The hull looks very strong and in good shape. The deck, other than around the 
stanchion bases, looks and sounds good. I really like its lines.

The work on this boat will take me the entire summer for certain, and likely 
part of the fall/winter, if I decide to buy it.
- Complete the deck repairs(seller is willing to help me with that);
- Full paint job, inside and outside;
- Restoration of all woodwork in the interior, top to bottom;
- Electric installations (I forgot to ask about the wiring);
- Plumbing (sink, toilet);
- All hardware needs to be cleaned;
- Assembly of, well, everything;
- Sail off into the sunset!

The good about all this, is that when it's finished I'll have a practically 
brand new boat with many years of sailing fun and no headaches. The seller is 
eager to get rid of it and has already made it clear that the price is 
negotiable.
But the amount of work seems staggering. And I will need a dry place to work 
for a long period, not too far away from home.
I'm curious, what would you offer for a boat in this state? Would you even 
consider buying it or would you run away screaming?

I got the impression I'm the first person seriously interested in the boat. The 
seller is not willing to restore the boat before selling it, unless his crew is 
out of work. I've seen the place, they got plenty of work. So the boat may even 
end up on the scrapyard :(

I could really use some good advice.

Regards,

Sander
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Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

[dwight veinot]

There is a fair bit of scarp metal value in that keel

 

Dwight Veinot

C&C 35 MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

 

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Paal
Sent: April 27, 2013 2:00 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

 

In the current market conditions the yard should pay you to take over the
headache.  You can buy a slightly neglected but in good condition boat for
the same money as you will have to put into this.  Yes, you'll have an
almost new boat at the end of the restoration, but this does not sound a
summer job.  Unless you can spend many hours a week working on it and you
have plenty of experience, in which case you do not need our free advise...

 

Bottom line, RUN!

 

Leslie

now: Phoenix C&C32

was: Navigo2 C&C25

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From: "san...@vpilot.net" 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 7:33 AM
Subject: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

 

Hi listers,

 

Thank you all again for helping me with the information request a couple of
days ago.

Today I went to meet with the seller (a boat repair shop) and to inspect the
boat. It's definitely a Mk1. 

Before you read further, I have pictures so drop me a line if you're
interested in seeing them.

 

The boat has been stripped completely, and I do mean EVERYTHING has been
taken off and out. The hull is an empty shell. The former owner was going to
fix the deck around the stanchion bases and do a complete repaint, but after
disassembly and initial sanding, he went awol and left the seller with the
boat in its current state. The deck repairs are half done: the rotten core
is removed and new waterproof plywood sawed in shape to fit. 

The seller showed me all the stuff that belonged to this boat, which was a
couple of pallets and boxes full. There is no way to tell for certain if
it's all complete, unless one knows exactly what should go where on the C&C.
There are instruments, but they may not function. The inboard engine (old
Volvo Penta sail drive with Honda 4-stroke block) may or may not function.
By the way, the cockpit floor does have an access hatch to the engine bay
like some of you mentioned.

The hull looks very strong and in good shape. The deck, other than around
the stanchion bases, looks and sounds good. I really like its lines.

 

The work on this boat will take me the entire summer for certain, and likely
part of the fall/winter, if I decide to buy it.

- Complete the deck repairs(seller is willing to help me with that);

- Full paint job, inside and outside;

- Restoration of all woodwork in the interior, top to bottom;

- Electric installations (I forgot to ask about the wiring);

- Plumbing (sink, toilet);

- All hardware needs to be cleaned;

- Assembly of, well, everything;

- Sail off into the sunset!

 

The good about all this, is that when it's finished I'll have a practically
brand new boat with many years of sailing fun and no headaches. The seller
is eager to get rid of it and has already made it clear that the price is
negotiable.

But the amount of work seems staggering. And I will need a dry place to work
for a long period, not too far away from home.

I'm curious, what would you offer for a boat in this state? Would you even
consider buying it or would you run away screaming?

 

I got the impression I'm the first person seriously interested in the boat.
The seller is not willing to restore the boat before selling it, unless his
crew is out of work. I've seen the place, they got plenty of work. So the
boat may even end up on the scrapyard :(

 

I could really use some good advice.

 

Regards,

 

Sander


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Stus-List Polars for a C&C 34 standard

[Terry]

Hello, does anyone have a set of polars for a C&C 34 standard?

If I may get a copy I would appreciate the gift...

Terry Johnson

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Stus-List C&C 25 mk??

[sam . c . salter]

 What mk would a 1981 CnC 25 full keel be?What about a 1982 CnC25 shoal draft keel? This is a test! sam :-) 403-617-6280

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Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

[Sander van der Moolen]

Thanks everyone for your advice!

I have no experience rebuilding boats. And there's really no point in taking
a boat only to deliver it to a scrapyard. 

Of course I'm a bit disappointed, I was looking forward to having something
special.. C&C's are not common here. But this project is way over my head.

So I will follow your advice and inform the seller come Monday that I'm
going to have to pass on this one.

 

Wishing you all the best and a wonderful and safe sailing season!

 

Regards, 

 

Sander

The Netherlands

 

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From: "  san...@vpilot.net" <
 san...@vpilot.net>
To:   cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 7:33 AM
Subject: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

 

Hi listers,

 

Thank you all again for helping me with the information request a couple of
days ago.

Today I went to meet with the seller (a boat repair shop) and to inspect the
boat. It's definitely a Mk1. 

Before you read further, I have pictures so drop me a line if you're
interested in seeing them.

 

The boat has been stripped completely, and I do mean EVERYTHING has been
taken off and out. The hull is an empty shell. The former owner was going to
fix the deck around the stanchion bases and do a complete repaint, but after
disassembly and initial sanding, he went awol and left the seller with the
boat in its current state. The deck repairs are half done: the rotten core
is removed and new waterproof plywood sawed in shape to fit. 

The seller showed me all the stuff that belonged to this boat, which was a
couple of pallets and boxes full. There is no way to tell for certain if
it's all complete, unless one knows exactly what should go where on the C&C.
There are instruments, but they may not function. The inboard engine (old
Volvo Penta sail drive with Honda 4-stroke block) may or may not function.
By the way, the cockpit floor does have an access hatch to the engine bay
like some of you mentioned.

The hull looks very strong and in good shape. The deck, other than around
the stanchion bases, looks and sounds good. I really like its lines.

 

The work on this boat will take me the entire summer for certain, and likely
part of the fall/winter, if I decide to buy it.

- Complete the deck repairs(seller is willing to help me with that);

- Full paint job, inside and outside;

- Restoration of all woodwork in the interior, top to bottom;

- Electric installations (I forgot to ask about the wiring);

- Plumbing (sink, toilet);

- All hardware needs to be cleaned;

- Assembly of, well, everything;

- Sail off into the sunset!

 

The good about all this, is that when it's finished I'll have a practically
brand new boat with many years of sailing fun and no headaches. The seller
is eager to get rid of it and has already made it clear that the price is
negotiable.

But the amount of work seems staggering. And I will need a dry place to work
for a long period, not too far away from home.

I'm curious, what would you offer for a boat in this state? Would you even
consider buying it or would you run away screaming?

 

I got the impression I'm the first person seriously interested in the boat.
The seller is not willing to restore the boat before selling it, unless his
crew is out of work. I've seen the place, they got plenty of work. So the
boat may even end up on the scrapyard :(

 

I could really use some good advice.

 

Regards,

 

Sander


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Stus-List 34+ feature Good Old Boat mag.

[Tom Buscaglia]

Nice 4 page feature on the 34+ in the latest issue of Good Old Boat magazine.  

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Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

[Knowles Rich]

Well done, Sander. Sorry if you are disappointed, but it really is the right 
choice. Best wishes finding a good boat, C&C or otherwise. 

Cheers

Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax

On 2013-04-27, at 15:03, "Sander van der Moolen"  wrote:

Thanks everyone for your advice!
I have no experience rebuilding boats. And there's really no point in taking a 
boat only to deliver it to a scrapyard.
Of course I'm a bit disappointed, I was looking forward to having something 
special.. C&C's are not common here. But this project is way over my head.
So I will follow your advice and inform the seller come Monday that I'm going 
to have to pass on this one.
 
Wishing you all the best and a wonderful and safe sailing season!
 
Regards,
 
Sander
The Netherlands
 
From: "san...@vpilot.net" 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 7:33 AM
Subject: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself
 
Hi listers,
 
Thank you all again for helping me with the information request a couple of 
days ago.
Today I went to meet with the seller (a boat repair shop) and to inspect the 
boat. It's definitely a Mk1. 
Before you read further, I have pictures so drop me a line if you're interested 
in seeing them.
 
The boat has been stripped completely, and I do mean EVERYTHING has been taken 
off and out. The hull is an empty shell. The former owner was going to fix the 
deck around the stanchion bases and do a complete repaint, but after 
disassembly and initial sanding, he went awol and left the seller with the boat 
in its current state. The deck repairs are half done: the rotten core is 
removed and new waterproof plywood sawed in shape to fit. 
The seller showed me all the stuff that belonged to this boat, which was a 
couple of pallets and boxes full. There is no way to tell for certain if it's 
all complete, unless one knows exactly what should go where on the C&C. There 
are instruments, but they may not function. The inboard engine (old Volvo Penta 
sail drive with Honda 4-stroke block) may or may not function. By the way, the 
cockpit floor does have an access hatch to the engine bay like some of you 
mentioned.
The hull looks very strong and in good shape. The deck, other than around the 
stanchion bases, looks and sounds good. I really like its lines.
 
The work on this boat will take me the entire summer for certain, and likely 
part of the fall/winter, if I decide to buy it.
- Complete the deck repairs(seller is willing to help me with that);
- Full paint job, inside and outside;
- Restoration of all woodwork in the interior, top to bottom;
- Electric installations (I forgot to ask about the wiring);
- Plumbing (sink, toilet);
- All hardware needs to be cleaned;
- Assembly of, well, everything;
- Sail off into the sunset!
 
The good about all this, is that when it's finished I'll have a practically 
brand new boat with many years of sailing fun and no headaches. The seller is 
eager to get rid of it and has already made it clear that the price is 
negotiable.
But the amount of work seems staggering. And I will need a dry place to work 
for a long period, not too far away from home.
I'm curious, what would you offer for a boat in this state? Would you even 
consider buying it or would you run away screaming?
 
I got the impression I'm the first person seriously interested in the boat. The 
seller is not willing to restore the boat before selling it, unless his crew is 
out of work. I've seen the place, they got plenty of work. So the boat may even 
end up on the scrapyard :(
 
I could really use some good advice.
 
Regards,
 
Sander

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Stus-List third battery

[Richard H. Bernstein]

I would like to install a third battery on Luna to give more power on  
the house side. I am curious where others with C&C 35's have put it.  
There doesn't seem to be room for another under the starboard quarter  
berth where the others are. Any advice??



Richard Bernstein
LUNA 1984 C&C 35
Lake Champlain, Vermont

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Re: Stus-List third battery

[dwight veinot]

One my 35 MKII,  I made room for two 6 volt golf cart batteries (house
supply) and 1 group 24 deep cycle battery that I use as a starting battery.
All told with those 3, I should have somewhere around 300 amp hours of
power, using the house bank first of course and then I need to do a motor
cruise to get things back up.  I run an adler barbour refrigeration unit and
I have pressurized hot and cold and regular incandescent 12 V lighting,
stereo and electric marine toilet, so far so good for me.next is an anchor
windlass which will take a lot of instantaneous power but I intend to
install a battery forward with charging from the engine alternator to do
that.less low gage conductor wire required that way I think, but I am sure
Rich will set me right on that

 

Not sure if you have the space, the 6V cart batteries I got are rather tall

 

Dwight Veinot

C&C 35 MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

 

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H. Bernstein
Sent: April 27, 2013 4:42 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List third battery

 

I would like to install a third battery on Luna to give more power on the
house side. I am curious where others with C&C 35's have put it. There
doesn't seem to be room for another under the starboard quarter berth where
the others are. Any advice??

 

 

Richard Bernstein

LUNA 1984 C&C 35

Lake Champlain, Vermont

 

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Stus-List third battery

[Richard H. Bernstein]

We are planning to install a refrigeration unit, hence the need for  
more juice. But, the question is--where did you find space for the  
extra battery? There's a space forward of the locker under the quarter  
birth--right under the seat for the nav table. But that's where the  
battery selector switch is, and I thought it is not advisable to put a  
battery to close to a potential source of spark because of the  
possibility of hydrogen gas. I'm probably going to use part of that  
space for the charger, also.


Richard Bernstein
LUNA 1984 C&C 35
Lake Champlain, Vermont




One my 35 MKII,  I made room for two 6 volt golf cart batteries (house
supply) and 1 group 24 deep cycle battery that I use as a starting  
battery.

All told with those 3, I should have somewhere around 300 amp hours of
power, using the house bank first of course and then I need to do a  
motor
cruise to get things back up.  I run an adler barbour refrigeration  
unit and

I have pressurized hot and cold and regular incandescent 12 V lighting,
stereo and electric marine toilet, so far so good for me.next is an  
anchor

windlass which will take a lot of instantaneous power but I intend to
install a battery forward with charging from the engine alternator to do
that.less low gage conductor wire required that way I think, but I am  
sure

Rich will set me right on that



Not sure if you have the space, the 6V cart batteries I got are rather  
tall




Dwight Veinot

C&C 35 MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS



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Richard

H. Bernstein
Sent: April 27, 2013 4:42 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List third battery



I would like to install a third battery on Luna to give more power on  
the

house side. I am curious where others with C&C 35's have put it. There
doesn't seem to be room for another under the starboard quarter berth  
where

the others are. Any advice??





Richard Bernstein

LUNA 1984 C&C 35

Lake Champlain, Vermont

Richard Bernstein
LUNA 1984 C&C 35
Lake Champlain, Vermont

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Re: Stus-List third battery

[Knowles Rich]

If you have room for a separate size 24 battery up near the windlass, a Xantrex 
EchoCharge box works just fine to keep it charged. 

Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax

On 2013-04-27, at 17:15, dwight veinot  wrote:

> …next is an anchor windlass which will take a lot of instantaneous power but 
> I intend to install a battery forward with charging from the engine 
> alternator to do that…less low gage conductor wire required that way I think, 
> but I am sure Rich will set me right on that

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Re: Stus-List third battery

[dwight veinot]

There was a wet locker, starboard side aft beside the companionway steps. I
mounted one 6 volt on an attached platform there and the other 6 volt aft of
the regular partition beside the engine connected in series with a proper
cable and vented enclosures.  The group 24 deep cycle is mounted starboard
side, aft under the settee for the quarter berth, outside further to
starboard than the 6 volt units.

 

I did not use that space as a wet locker anyway because the size of the
quarter berth was enlarged by a PO to include it on my boat.

 

See the layout of my 35 MKII here under C&C brochures, 35 MKIIa:
http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/

 

Dwight Veinot

C&C 35 MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

 

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Richard
H. Bernstein
Sent: April 27, 2013 5:39 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List third battery

 


We are planning to install a refrigeration unit, hence the need for more
juice. But, the question is--where did you find space for the extra battery?
There's a space forward of the locker under the quarter birth--right under
the seat for the nav table. But that's where the battery selector switch is,
and I thought it is not advisable to put a battery to close to a potential
source of spark because of the possibility of hydrogen gas. I'm probably
going to use part of that space for the charger, also.

 

Richard Bernstein

LUNA 1984 C&C 35

Lake Champlain, Vermont

 

 

 


One my 35 MKII,  I made room for two 6 volt golf cart batteries (house
supply) and 1 group 24 deep cycle battery that I use as a starting battery.
All told with those 3, I should have somewhere around 300 amp hours of
power, using the house bank first of course and then I need to do a motor
cruise to get things back up.  I run an adler barbour refrigeration unit and
I have pressurized hot and cold and regular incandescent 12 V lighting,
stereo and electric marine toilet, so far so good for me.next is an anchor
windlass which will take a lot of instantaneous power but I intend to
install a battery forward with charging from the engine alternator to do
that.less low gage conductor wire required that way I think, but I am sure
Rich will set me right on that



Not sure if you have the space, the 6V cart batteries I got are rather tall



Dwight Veinot

C&C 35 MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS



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H. Bernstein
Sent: April 27, 2013 4:42 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List third battery



I would like to install a third battery on Luna to give more power on the
house side. I am curious where others with C&C 35's have put it. There
doesn't seem to be room for another under the starboard quarter berth where
the others are. Any advice??





Richard Bernstein

LUNA 1984 C&C 35

Lake Champlain, Vermont

Richard Bernstein

LUNA 1984 C&C 35

Lake Champlain, Vermont

 

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Re: Stus-List third battery

[dwight veinot]

I have lots of room for that on my boat...thanks Rich

Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
 

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Rich
Sent: April 27, 2013 5:44 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List third battery

If you have room for a separate size 24 battery up near the windlass, a
Xantrex EchoCharge box works just fine to keep it charged. 

Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax

On 2013-04-27, at 17:15, dwight veinot  wrote:

> .next is an anchor windlass which will take a lot of instantaneous power
but I intend to install a battery forward with charging from the engine
alternator to do that.less low gage conductor wire required that way I
think, but I am sure Rich will set me right on that

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Re: Stus-List third battery

[Joel Aronson]

On  my mk 3 there is room under there.

Joel Aronson


On Apr 27, 2013, at 4:39 PM, "Richard H. Bernstein" <
richard.h.bernst...@uvm.edu> wrote:


We are planning to install a refrigeration unit, hence the need for more
juice. But, the question is--where did you find space for the extra
battery? There's a space forward of the locker under the quarter
birth--right under the seat for the nav table. But that's where the battery
selector switch is, and I thought it is not advisable to put a battery to
close to a potential source of spark because of the possibility of hydrogen
gas. I'm probably going to use part of that space for the charger, also.

Richard Bernstein
LUNA 1984 C&C 35
Lake Champlain, Vermont




One my 35 MKII,  I made room for two 6 volt golf cart batteries (house
supply) and 1 group 24 deep cycle battery that I use as a starting battery.
All told with those 3, I should have somewhere around 300 amp hours of
power, using the house bank first of course and then I need to do a motor
cruise to get things back up.  I run an adler barbour refrigeration unit and
I have pressurized hot and cold and regular incandescent 12 V lighting,
stereo and electric marine toilet, so far so good for me.next is an anchor
windlass which will take a lot of instantaneous power but I intend to
install a battery forward with charging from the engine alternator to do
that.less low gage conductor wire required that way I think, but I am sure
Rich will set me right on that



Not sure if you have the space, the 6V cart batteries I got are rather tall



Dwight Veinot

C&C 35 MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS



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On Behalf Of Richard
H. Bernstein
Sent: April 27, 2013 4:42 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List third battery



I would like to install a third battery on Luna to give more power on the
house side. I am curious where others with C&C 35's have put it. There
doesn't seem to be room for another under the starboard quarter berth where
the others are. Any advice??





Richard Bernstein

LUNA 1984 C&C 35

Lake Champlain, Vermont

Richard Bernstein
LUNA 1984 C&C 35
Lake Champlain, Vermont

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Re: Stus-List third battery

[Don Wagner]

Battery switches should be  ignition proof, and approved  by UL, ABYC, and 
others.
You should not have to worry about a hydrogen explosion, but if you are still 
concerned, make sure that the locker is well vented, perhaps both at the top 
and the bottom.
Hydrogen, being lighter than air will vent at the top, but the lower vent will 
facilitate the air flow.

On my boat, a 27 year old C&C 41, CB, I have 3 batteries installed in the lower 
part of a hanging locker. The battery switch is located near the middle of the 
same locker.
It does have a separate cover over the terminals, just to prevent any metal 
objects  from shorting to the terminals, but this cover is by no means gas 
tight. 
Never had a problem.

Just my .02 $  

Don Wagner
 C&C 41 CB
Der Baron
Hull # 93
1986
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard H. Bernstein 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 4:38 PM
  Subject: Stus-List third battery



  We are planning to install a refrigeration unit, hence the need for more 
juice. But, the question is--where did you find space for the extra battery? 
There's a space forward of the locker under the quarter birth--right under the 
seat for the nav table. But that's where the battery selector switch is, and I 
thought it is not advisable to put a battery to close to a potential source of 
spark because of the possibility of hydrogen gas. I'm probably going to use 
part of that space for the charger, also.


  Richard Bernstein
  LUNA 1984 C&C 35
  Lake Champlain, Vermont







  One my 35 MKII,  I made room for two 6 volt golf cart batteries (house
  supply) and 1 group 24 deep cycle battery that I use as a starting battery.
  All told with those 3, I should have somewhere around 300 amp hours of
  power, using the house bank first of course and then I need to do a motor
  cruise to get things back up.  I run an adler barbour refrigeration unit and
  I have pressurized hot and cold and regular incandescent 12 V lighting,
  stereo and electric marine toilet, so far so good for me.next is an anchor
  windlass which will take a lot of instantaneous power but I intend to
  install a battery forward with charging from the engine alternator to do
  that.less low gage conductor wire required that way I think, but I am sure
  Rich will set me right on that



  Not sure if you have the space, the 6V cart batteries I got are rather tall



  Dwight Veinot

  C&C 35 MKII, Alianna

  Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS



   _  

  From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Richard
  H. Bernstein
  Sent: April 27, 2013 4:42 PM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Subject: Stus-List third battery



  I would like to install a third battery on Luna to give more power on the
  house side. I am curious where others with C&C 35's have put it. There
  doesn't seem to be room for another under the starboard quarter berth where
  the others are. Any advice??





  Richard Bernstein

  LUNA 1984 C&C 35

  Lake Champlain, Vermont


  Richard Bernstein
  LUNA 1984 C&C 35
  Lake Champlain, Vermont




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Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

[Wally Bryant]

Sander wrote:

 I have no experience rebuilding boats. 


Good call.  It would be a good backyard project if you want to rebuild a 
boat but have another boat to sail.


Wal

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Re: Stus-List third battery

[Joel Aronson]

Richard

You can put the charger on the outside. Keep the heat out of the battery
compartment.

Joel Aronson


On Apr 27, 2013, at 4:39 PM, "Richard H. Bernstein" <
richard.h.bernst...@uvm.edu> wrote:


We are planning to install a refrigeration unit, hence the need for more
juice. But, the question is--where did you find space for the extra
battery? There's a space forward of the locker under the quarter
birth--right under the seat for the nav table. But that's where the battery
selector switch is, and I thought it is not advisable to put a battery to
close to a potential source of spark because of the possibility of hydrogen
gas. I'm probably going to use part of that space for the charger, also.

Richard Bernstein
LUNA 1984 C&C 35
Lake Champlain, Vermont




One my 35 MKII,  I made room for two 6 volt golf cart batteries (house
supply) and 1 group 24 deep cycle battery that I use as a starting battery.
All told with those 3, I should have somewhere around 300 amp hours of
power, using the house bank first of course and then I need to do a motor
cruise to get things back up.  I run an adler barbour refrigeration unit and
I have pressurized hot and cold and regular incandescent 12 V lighting,
stereo and electric marine toilet, so far so good for me.next is an anchor
windlass which will take a lot of instantaneous power but I intend to
install a battery forward with charging from the engine alternator to do
that.less low gage conductor wire required that way I think, but I am sure
Rich will set me right on that



Not sure if you have the space, the 6V cart batteries I got are rather tall



Dwight Veinot

C&C 35 MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS



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On Behalf Of Richard
H. Bernstein
Sent: April 27, 2013 4:42 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List third battery



I would like to install a third battery on Luna to give more power on the
house side. I am curious where others with C&C 35's have put it. There
doesn't seem to be room for another under the starboard quarter berth where
the others are. Any advice??





Richard Bernstein

LUNA 1984 C&C 35

Lake Champlain, Vermont

Richard Bernstein
LUNA 1984 C&C 35
Lake Champlain, Vermont

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Re: Stus-List third battery

[Tim Goodyear]

Likewise, I have three batteries (2x 31? and 1 x 24) in that forward locker 
under the starboard quarterberth (same model as you).  It's really tight, so 
I'm planning to move the starter battery elsewhere, possibly in the rear locker 
under the same berth if tall enough.

Tim
Mojito
C&C 35-3 1984
Branford, CT

On Apr 27, 2013, at 5:08 PM, Joel Aronson  wrote:

> On  my mk 3 there is room under there. 
> 
> Joel Aronson
> 
> 
> On Apr 27, 2013, at 4:39 PM, "Richard H. Bernstein" 
>  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> We are planning to install a refrigeration unit, hence the need for more 
>> juice. But, the question is--where did you find space for the extra battery? 
>> There's a space forward of the locker under the quarter birth--right under 
>> the seat for the nav table. But that's where the battery selector switch is, 
>> and I thought it is not advisable to put a battery to close to a potential 
>> source of spark because of the possibility of hydrogen gas. I'm probably 
>> going to use part of that space for the charger, also.
>> 
>> Richard Bernstein
>> LUNA 1984 C&C 35
>> Lake Champlain, Vermont
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> One my 35 MKII,  I made room for two 6 volt golf cart batteries (house
>> supply) and 1 group 24 deep cycle battery that I use as a starting battery.
>> All told with those 3, I should have somewhere around 300 amp hours of
>> power, using the house bank first of course and then I need to do a motor
>> cruise to get things back up.  I run an adler barbour refrigeration unit and
>> I have pressurized hot and cold and regular incandescent 12 V lighting,
>> stereo and electric marine toilet, so far so good for me.next is an anchor
>> windlass which will take a lot of instantaneous power but I intend to
>> install a battery forward with charging from the engine alternator to do
>> that.less low gage conductor wire required that way I think, but I am sure
>> Rich will set me right on that
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Not sure if you have the space, the 6V cart batteries I got are rather tall
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dwight Veinot
>> 
>> C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
>> 
>> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  _  
>> 
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Richard
>> H. Bernstein
>> Sent: April 27, 2013 4:42 PM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Stus-List third battery
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I would like to install a third battery on Luna to give more power on the
>> house side. I am curious where others with C&C 35's have put it. There
>> doesn't seem to be room for another under the starboard quarter berth where
>> the others are. Any advice??
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard Bernstein
>> 
>> LUNA 1984 C&C 35
>> 
>> Lake Champlain, Vermont
>> 
>> Richard Bernstein
>> LUNA 1984 C&C 35
>> Lake Champlain, Vermont
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Re: Stus-List third battery

[Wally Bryant]

Won´t it get wet?

you wrote:

You can put the charger on the outside.



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Re: Stus-List third battery

[Joel Aronson]

Only on port tack.

Joel Aronson


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> Won´t it get wet?
>
> you wrote:
>> You can put the charger on the outside.
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Re: Stus-List third battery

[dwight veinot]

I have had the leeward rail under and still get big splashes over the
windward rail and right into the cockpit, what a rush that is for the
helmsman in the cold waters we have around here...my battery charger is
mounted high and dry below decks

Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List third battery

Only on port tack.

Joel Aronson


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>> You can put the charger on the outside.
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Re: Stus-List third battery -25 marks!

[sam . c . salter]

Forget the third battery - boring!Enlighten me on the CnC 25 marks.My boss in the marina has just bought both. '81 full keel / 81 shoal.Which one to keep? Sam Salter C&C 26 Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta  :77bsam :-) 403-617-6280From: dwight veinotSent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 5:02 PMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comReply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.comSubject: Re: Stus-List third batteryI have had the leeward rail under and still get big splashes over thewindward rail and right into the cockpit, what a rush that is for thehelmsman in the cold waters we have around here...my battery charger ismounted high and dry below decksDwight VeinotC&C 35 MKII, AliannaHead of St. Margaret's Bay, NS -Original Message-From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of JoelAronsonSent: April 27, 2013 7:29 PMTo: w...@wbryant.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.comSubject: Re: Stus-List third batteryOnly on port tack.Joel AronsonOn Apr 27, 2013, at 6:26 PM, Wally Bryant  wrote:> Won´t it get wet?>> you wrote:>> You can put the charger on the outside.>>> ___> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com> CnC-List@cnc-list.com___This List is provided by the C&C Photo Albumhttp://www.cncphotoalbum.comCnC-List@cnc-list.com-No virus found in this message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 2012.0.2241 / Virus Database: 3162/5777 - Release Date: 04/27/13___This List is provided by the C&C Photo Albumhttp://www.cncphotoalbum.comCnC-List@cnc-list.com

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Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

[Chuck S]

Sander, 
I think you made the right decision. Save your money while looking for a more 
suitable boat. Once you sign papers, you'll start paying for storage and 
electric and insurance and buying parts and tools you'll need and all your free 
time will be taken. 



Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 C&C 34R 
Atlantic City, NJ 
- Original Message -
From: "Sander van der Moolen"  
To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list"  
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 2:03:02 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself 




Thanks everyone for your advice! 

I have no experience rebuilding boats. And there's really no point in taking a 
boat only to deliver it to a scrapyard. 

Of course I'm a bit disappointed, I was looking forward to having something 
special.. C&C's are not common here. But this project is way over my head. 

So I will follow your advice and inform the seller come Monday that I'm going 
to have to pass on this one. 



Wishing you all the best and a wonderful and safe sailing season! 



Regards, 



Sander 

The Netherlands 









From: " san...@vpilot.net " < san...@vpilot.net > 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 7:33 AM 
Subject: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself 





Hi listers, 





Thank you all again for helping me with the information request a couple of 
days ago. 


Today I went to meet with the seller (a boat repair shop) and to inspect the 
boat. It's definitely a Mk1. 


Before you read further, I have pictures so drop me a line if you're interested 
in seeing them. 





The boat has been stripped completely, and I do mean EVERYTHING has been taken 
off and out. The hull is an empty shell. The former owner was going to fix the 
deck around the stanchion bases and do a complete repaint, but after 
disassembly and initial sanding, he went awol and left the seller with the boat 
in its current state. The deck repairs are half done: the rotten core is 
removed and new waterproof plywood sawed in shape to fit. 


The seller showed me all the stuff that belonged to this boat, which was a 
couple of pallets and boxes full. There is no way to tell for certain if it's 
all complete, unless one knows exactly what should go where on the C&C. There 
are instruments, but they may not function. The inboard engine (old Volvo Penta 
sail drive with Honda 4-stroke block) may or may not function. By the way, the 
cockpit floor does have an access hatch to the engine bay like some of you 
mentioned. 


The hull looks very strong and in good shape. The deck, other than around the 
stanchion bases, looks and sounds good. I really like its lines. 





The work on this boat will take me the entire summer for certain, and likely 
part of the fall/winter, if I decide to buy it. 


- Complete the deck repairs(seller is willing to help me with that); 


- Full paint job, inside and outside; 


- Restoration of all woodwork in the interior, top to bottom; 


- Electric installations (I forgot to ask about the wiring); 


- Plumbing (sink, toilet); 


- All hardware needs to be cleaned; 


- Assembly of, well, everything; 


- Sail off into the sunset! 





The good about all this, is that when it's finished I'll have a practically 
brand new boat with many years of sailing fun and no headaches. The seller is 
eager to get rid of it and has already made it clear that the price is 
negotiable. 


But the amount of work seems staggering. And I will need a dry place to work 
for a long period, not too far away from home. 


I'm curious, what would you offer for a boat in this state? Would you even 
consider buying it or would you run away screaming? 





I got the impression I'm the first person seriously interested in the boat. The 
seller is not willing to restore the boat before selling it, unless his crew is 
out of work. I've seen the place, they got plenty of work. So the boat may even 
end up on the scrapyard :( 





I could really use some good advice. 





Regards, 





Sander 


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Stus-List Fw: third battery -25 marks!

[sam . c . salter]

Edit - 82 full keel  sam :-) 403-617-6280From: sam.c.sal...@gmail.comSent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 5:44 PMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comSubject: Re: Stus-List third battery -25 marks!Forget the third battery - boring!Enlighten me on the CnC 25 marks.My boss in the marina has just bought both. '81 full keel / 81 shoal.Which one to keep? Sam Salter C&C 26 Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta  :77bsam :-) 403-617-6280From: dwight veinotSent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 5:02 PMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comReply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.comSubject: Re: Stus-List third batteryI have had the leeward rail under and still get big splashes over thewindward rail and right into the cockpit, what a rush that is for thehelmsman in the cold waters we have around here...my battery charger ismounted high and dry below decksDwight VeinotC&C 35 MKII, AliannaHead of St. Margaret's Bay, NS -Original Message-From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of JoelAronsonSent: April 27, 2013 7:29 PMTo: w...@wbryant.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.comSubject: Re: Stus-List third batteryOnly on port tack.Joel AronsonOn Apr 27, 2013, at 6:26 PM, Wally Bryant  wrote:> Won´t it get wet?>> you wrote:>> You can put the charger on the outside.>>> ___> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com> CnC-List@cnc-list.com___This List is provided by the C&C Photo Albumhttp://www.cncphotoalbum.comCnC-List@cnc-list.com-No virus found in this message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 2012.0.2241 / Virus Database: 3162/5777 - Release Date: 04/27/13___This List is provided by the C&C Photo Albumhttp://www.cncphotoalbum.comCnC-List@cnc-list.com
 

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Re: Stus-List third battery -25 marks!

[dwight veinot]

For me full keel, but I think an 81 model might be a mark II.  I prefer the
older MKI full keel 25’s.  We got lots of depth around here and afternoon
southwesterlies can get above 20 true quite often…you leave home at 11 a.m.
on a nice beat in 12-15 apparent and before 2 pm you are often struggling in
white caps and splashes in above 20 apparent…I have never owned a 25 but I
know having sailed alongside some with my 24, that the 25 MKI is a much
better boat going to weather around here.

 

Dwight Veinot

C&C 35 MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

 

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sam.c.sal...@gmail.com
Sent: April 27, 2013 8:44 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List third battery -25 marks!

 

Forget the third battery - boring!

Enlighten me on the CnC 25 marks.

My boss in the marina has just bought both. 

'81 full keel / 81 shoal.

Which one to keep? 

 

Sam Salter 

C&C 26 Liquorice 

Ghost Lake Alberta 

 

:77bsam :-) 403-617-6280


From: dwight veinot

Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 5:02 PM

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Reply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Subject: Re: Stus-List third battery

 

I have had the leeward rail under and still get big splashes over the
windward rail and right into the cockpit, what a rush that is for the
helmsman in the cold waters we have around here...my battery charger is
mounted high and dry below decks

Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS


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Aronson
Sent: April 27, 2013 7:29 PM
To: w...@wbryant.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List third battery

Only on port tack.

Joel Aronson


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>
> you wrote:
>> You can put the charger on the outside.
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Re: Stus-List Fw: third battery -25 marks!

[dwight veinot]

And for what it’s worth Sam but not to create an argument, the 25 MKI full
keel will do a number on your 26 going to weather, both boats equally well
sailed.

 

Here are some local area handicaps for NS;

 


 


C&C 24

222

 


C&C 25-1

207

 


C&C 25-2

207

 


C&C 26

219

 


C&C 27-1

207

 

 

 

 

Dwight Veinot

C&C 35 MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

 

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Sent: April 27, 2013 8:46 PM
To: CnC
Subject: Stus-List Fw: third battery -25 marks!

 

Edit - 82 full keel 

sam :-) 403-617-6280


From: sam.c.sal...@gmail.com

Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 5:44 PM

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Subject: Re: Stus-List third battery -25 marks!

 

Forget the third battery - boring!

Enlighten me on the CnC 25 marks.

My boss in the marina has just bought both. 

'81 full keel / 81 shoal.

Which one to keep? 

 

Sam Salter 

C&C 26 Liquorice 

Ghost Lake Alberta 

 

:77bsam :-) 403-617-6280


From: dwight veinot

Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 5:02 PM

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Reply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Subject: Re: Stus-List third battery

 

I have had the leeward rail under and still get big splashes over the
windward rail and right into the cockpit, what a rush that is for the
helmsman in the cold waters we have around here...my battery charger is
mounted high and dry below decks

Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS


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Sent: April 27, 2013 7:29 PM
To: w...@wbryant.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List third battery

Only on port tack.

Joel Aronson


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Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

[D.Drake]

Sander
My C&C 26  which was complete and sailing the summer before took my wife 
and I ,every hour of every weekend and 3 weeks of vacation just to paint 
the topsides and deck .
Every piece of hardware was removed and bagged with pictures . I knew 
the boat inside and out before I started That  is a smaller project than 
what you have described !
Take the time and labour estimate you have allotted  and double it at 
the very least !
As other have said ,if you like working on boats this is the one ,if you 
like sailing spend your money on a boat you can test sail !



On 27/04/2013 10:33 AM, san...@vpilot.net wrote:

Hi listers,

Thank you all again for helping me with the information request a 
couple of days ago.
Today I went to meet with the seller (a boat repair shop) and to 
inspect the boat. It's definitely a Mk1.
Before you read further, I have pictures so drop me a line if you're 
interested in seeing them.


The boat has been stripped completely, and I do mean EVERYTHING has 
been taken off and out. The hull is an empty shell. The former owner 
was going to fix the deck around the stanchion bases and do a complete 
repaint, but after disassembly and initial sanding, he went awol and 
left the seller with the boat in its current state. The deck repairs 
are half done: the rotten core is removed and new waterproof plywood 
sawed in shape to fit.
The seller showed me all the stuff that belonged to this boat, which 
was a couple of pallets and boxes full. There is no way to tell for 
certain if it's all complete, unless one knows exactly what should go 
where on the C&C. There are instruments, but they may not function. 
The inboard engine (old Volvo Penta sail drive with Honda 4-stroke 
block) may or may not function. By the way, the cockpit floor does 
have an access hatch to the engine bay like some of you mentioned.
The hull looks very strong and in good shape. The deck, other than 
around the stanchion bases, looks and sounds good. I really like its 
lines.


The work on this boat will take me the entire summer for certain, and 
likely part of the fall/winter, if I decide to buy it.

- Complete the deck repairs(seller is willing to help me with that);
- Full paint job, inside and outside;
- Restoration of all woodwork in the interior, top to bottom;
- Electric installations (I forgot to ask about the wiring);
- Plumbing (sink, toilet);
- All hardware needs to be cleaned;
- Assembly of, well, everything;
- Sail off into the sunset!

The good about all this, is that when it's finished I'll have a 
practically brand new boat with many years of sailing fun and no 
headaches. The seller is eager to get rid of it and has already made 
it clear that the price is negotiable.
But the amount of work seems staggering. And I will need a dry place 
to work for a long period, not too far away from home.
I'm curious, what would you offer for a boat in this state? Would you 
even consider buying it or would you run away screaming?


I got the impression I'm the first person seriously interested in the 
boat. The seller is not willing to restore the boat before selling it, 
unless his crew is out of work. I've seen the place, they got plenty 
of work. So the boat may even end up on the scrapyard :(


I could really use some good advice.

Regards,

Sander


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Re: Stus-List Fw: third battery -25 marks!

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Re: Stus-List Fw: third battery -25 marks!

[dwight veinot]

I don’t blame her, accommodations are a good reason, otherwise she may just
stay home and then you would have to sail alone a lot, more fun when you do
it together and for that who cares about a few extra seconds per mile…I know
there is a joke in there somewhere for Rich :-)

 

Dwight Veinot

C&C 35 MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

 

  _  

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
sam.c.sal...@gmail.com
Sent: April 27, 2013 10:07 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fw: third battery -25 marks!

 

Yeah I know - but the wife like 's the accommodations. And when I was
looking, all the 25's and 27's had been sailed hard and put away wet, so I
went with the boat to please the wife. I'm sure all you lot wear the
trousers but I'm not allowed to! 

sam :-) 403-617-6280


From: dwight veinot

Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 6:02 PM

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Reply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Subject: Re: Stus-List Fw: third battery -25 marks!

 

And for what it’s worth Sam but not to create an argument, the 25 MKI full
keel will do a number on your 26 going to weather, both boats equally well
sailed.

 

Here are some local area handicaps for NS;

 


 


C&C 24

222

 


C&C 25-1

207

 


C&C 25-2

207

 


C&C 26

219

 


C&C 27-1

207

 

 

 

 

Dwight Veinot

C&C 35 MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

 

  _  

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sam.c.sal...@gmail.com
Sent: April 27, 2013 8:46 PM
To: CnC
Subject: Stus-List Fw: third battery -25 marks!

 

Edit - 82 full keel 

sam :-) 403-617-6280


From: sam.c.sal...@gmail.com

Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 5:44 PM

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Subject: Re: Stus-List third battery -25 marks!

 

Forget the third battery - boring!

Enlighten me on the CnC 25 marks.

My boss in the marina has just bought both. 

'81 full keel / 81 shoal.

Which one to keep? 

 

Sam Salter 

C&C 26 Liquorice 

Ghost Lake Alberta 

 

:77bsam :-) 403-617-6280


From: dwight veinot

Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 5:02 PM

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Reply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Subject: Re: Stus-List third battery

 

I have had the leeward rail under and still get big splashes over the
windward rail and right into the cockpit, what a rush that is for the
helmsman in the cold waters we have around here...my battery charger is
mounted high and dry below decks

Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS


-Original Message-
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Aronson
Sent: April 27, 2013 7:29 PM
To: w...@wbryant.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List third battery

Only on port tack.

Joel Aronson


On Apr 27, 2013, at 6:26 PM, Wally Bryant  wrote:

> Won´t it get wet?
>
> you wrote:
>> You can put the charger on the outside.
>
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Re: Stus-List third battery

[Jake Brodersen]

Richard,

 

I have room for four batteries in the quarterberth.  I currently carry only
two.  A large AGM house battery and a slightly smaller AGM battery for
house/starting purposes.

 

Jake

 

Jake Brodersen

C&C 35 Mk-III

Midnight Mistress

Hampton VA

   

cid:image001.png@01CE3D06.5A990940

 

 

 

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H. Bernstein
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 3:42 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List third battery

 

I would like to install a third battery on Luna to give more power on the
house side. I am curious where others with C&C 35's have put it. There
doesn't seem to be room for another under the starboard quarter berth where
the others are. Any advice??

 

 

Richard Bernstein

LUNA 1984 C&C 35

Lake Champlain, Vermont

 

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Re: Stus-List Fw: third battery -25 marks!

[Knowles Rich]

Dwight!  I never joke about women. They are not funny. 

Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax

On 2013-04-27, at 22:21, dwight veinot  wrote:

I don’t blame her, accommodations are a good reason, otherwise she may just 
stay home and then you would have to sail alone a lot, more fun when you do it 
together and for that who cares about a few extra seconds per mile…I know there 
is a joke in there somewhere for Rich J
 
Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
 
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of 
sam.c.sal...@gmail.com
Sent: April 27, 2013 10:07 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fw: third battery -25 marks!
 
Yeah I know - but the wife like 's the accommodations. And when I was looking, 
all the 25's and 27's had been sailed hard and put away wet, so I went with the 
boat to please the wife. I'm sure all you lot wear the trousers but I'm not 
allowed to! 
sam :-) 403-617-6280

From: dwight veinot
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 6:02 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Reply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fw: third battery -25 marks!
 
And for what it’s worth Sam but not to create an argument, the 25 MKI full keel 
will do a number on your 26 going to weather, both boats equally well sailed.
 
Here are some local area handicaps for NS;
 
 
C&C 24
222
 
C&C 25-1
207
 
C&C 25-2
207
 
C&C 26
219
 
C&C 27-1
207
 
 
 
 
Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
 
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sam.c.sal...@gmail.com
Sent: April 27, 2013 8:46 PM
To: CnC
Subject: Stus-List Fw: third battery -25 marks!
 
Edit - 82 full keel 
sam :-) 403-617-6280

From: sam.c.sal...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 5:44 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List third battery -25 marks!
 
Forget the third battery - boring!
Enlighten me on the CnC 25 marks.
My boss in the marina has just bought both. 
'81 full keel / 81 shoal.
Which one to keep? 
 
Sam Salter 
C&C 26 Liquorice 
Ghost Lake Alberta 
 
:77bsam :-) 403-617-6280

From: dwight veinot
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 5:02 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Reply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List third battery
 
I have had the leeward rail under and still get big splashes over the
windward rail and right into the cockpit, what a rush that is for the
helmsman in the cold waters we have around here...my battery charger is
mounted high and dry below decks

Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS


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Aronson
Sent: April 27, 2013 7:29 PM
To: w...@wbryant.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List third battery

Only on port tack.

Joel Aronson


On Apr 27, 2013, at 6:26 PM, Wally Bryant  wrote:

> Won´t it get wet?
>
> you wrote:
>> You can put the charger on the outside.
>
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Re: Stus-List Fw: third battery -25 marks!

[Jim Watts]

Not when they are in earshot, anyhow.


On 27 April 2013 18:32, Knowles Rich  wrote:

> Dwight!  I never joke about women. They are not funny.
>
> Rich Knowles
> Indigo. LF38
> Halifax
>
> On 2013-04-27, at 22:21, dwight veinot 
> wrote:
>
> ** ** ** **
>
> I don’t blame her, accommodations are a good reason, otherwise she may
> just stay home and then you would have to sail alone a lot, more fun when
> you do it together and for that who cares about a few extra seconds per
> mile…I know there is a joke in there somewhere for Rich J
>
> ** **
>
> Dwight Veinot
>
> C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
>
> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
>
> ** **
>  --
>
> *From:* CnC-List 
> [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]
> *On Behalf Of *sam.c.sal...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* April 27, 2013 10:07 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Fw: third battery -25 marks!
>
> ** **
>
> Yeah I know - but the wife like 's the accommodations. And when I was
> looking, all the 25's and 27's had been sailed hard and put away wet, so I
> went with the boat to please the wife. I'm sure all you lot wear the
> trousers but I'm not allowed to! 
>
> sam :-) 403-617-6280
>
> *From: *dwight veinot
>
> *Sent: *Saturday, April 27, 2013 6:02 PM
>
> *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>
> *Reply To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>
> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Fw: third battery -25 marks!
>
> ** **
> 
>
> And for what it’s worth Sam but not to create an argument, the 25 MKI full
> keel will do a number on your 26 going to weather, both boats equally well
> sailed.
>
> ** **
>
> Here are some local area handicaps for NS;
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> C&C 24
>
> 222
>
> ** **
>
> C&C 25-1
>
> 207
>
> ** **
>
> C&C 25-2
>
> 207
>
> ** **
>
> C&C 26
>
> 219
>
> ** **
>
> C&C 27-1
>
> 207
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Dwight Veinot
>
> C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
>
> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
>
> ** **
>   --
>
> *From:* CnC-List 
> [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]
> *On Behalf Of *sam.c.sal...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* April 27, 2013 8:46 PM
> *To:* CnC
> *Subject:* Stus-List Fw: third battery -25 marks!
>
> ** **
>
> Edit - 82 full keel 
>
> sam :-) 403-617-6280
>
> *From: *sam.c.sal...@gmail.com
>
> *Sent: *Saturday, April 27, 2013 5:44 PM
>
> *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>
> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List third battery -25 marks!
>
> ** **
>
> Forget the third battery - boring!
>
> Enlighten me on the CnC 25 marks.
>
> My boss in the marina has just bought both. 
>
> '81 full keel / 81 shoal.
>
> Which one to keep? 
>  **
>
>  
>
> Sam Salter 
>
> C&C 26 Liquorice 
>  **
>
> **Ghost** Lake Alberta 
>  **
>
>  
>
> :77bsam :-) 403-617-6280
>
> *From: *dwight veinot
>
> *Sent: *Saturday, April 27, 2013 5:02 PM
>
> *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>
> *Reply To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>
> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List third battery
>
> ** **
>
> I have had the leeward rail under and still get big splashes over the
> windward rail and right into the cockpit, what a rush that is for the
> helmsman in the cold waters we have around here...my battery charger is
> mounted high and dry below decks
>
> Dwight Veinot
> C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List 
> [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]
> On Behalf Of Joel
> Aronson
> Sent: April 27, 2013 7:29 PM
> To: w...@wbryant.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List third battery
>
> Only on port tack.
>
> Joel Aronson
>
>
> On Apr 27, 2013, at 6:26 PM, Wally Bryant  wrote:
>
> > Won´t it get wet?
> >
> > you wrote:
> >> You can put the charger on the outside.
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Re: Stus-List third battery

[Jim Watts]

I have two group 27 deep cycle and one group 24 starting battery in the
forward compartment and another deep cycle in the aft compartment of the
quarterberth. Lots of room back there.


On 27 April 2013 18:25, Jake Brodersen  wrote:

> Richard,
>
> ** **
>
> I have room for four batteries in the quarterberth.  I currently carry
> only two.  A large AGM house battery and a slightly smaller AGM battery for
> house/starting purposes.
>
> ** **
>
> Jake
>
> ** **
>
> *Jake Brodersen*
>
> *C&C 35 Mk-III*
>
> *Midnight Mistress*
>
> *Hampton VA*
>
> *   *
>
> [image: cid:image001.png@01CE3D06.5A990940]**
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard
> H. Bernstein
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 27, 2013 3:42 PM
>
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Stus-List third battery
>
> ** **
>
> I would like to install a third battery on Luna to give more power on the
> house side. I am curious where others with C&C 35's have put it. There
> doesn't seem to be room for another under the starboard quarter berth where
> the others are. Any advice??
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Richard Bernstein
>
> LUNA 1984 C&C 35
>
> Lake Champlain, Vermont
>
> ** **
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Stus-List diesel leak on VC17

[Pierre Tremblay]

Hi listers,
 
Last autumn, I slightly overfill my fuel tank, and some of it went out the 
vent, and onto the VC17 bottom.
 
So now, for prepping the bottom, how can I clean the diesel from the VC17 
before repainting?
 
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Re: Stus-List third battery -25 marks!

[Rick Taillieu]

Sam,

 

C&C never built a shoal draft 25.

The Mk1 has a 3' 10" draft and the Mk2 has a 4' 3" draft.

If you see one advertised with something other than that, it is either a
Redline 25 (a totally different boat from the late '60s or early '70s) or it
has been hacked.

Tell him to keep the regular (full) keel version and flog the "shoal"
version as quick as he can.

 

Rick Taillieu

Nemesis

'75 C&C 25  #371

Shearwater Yacht Club

Halifax, NS.

 

 

 

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sam.c.sal...@gmail.com
Sent: April-27-13 8:44 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List third battery -25 marks!

 

Forget the third battery - boring!

Enlighten me on the CnC 25 marks.

My boss in the marina has just bought both. 

'81 full keel / 81 shoal.

Which one to keep? 

 

Sam Salter 

C&C 26 Liquorice 

Ghost Lake Alberta 

 

:77bsam :-) 403-617-6280

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Re: Stus-List diesel leak on VC17

[dwight veinot]

I don't think there should be a problem with the diesel fuel getting on
there last year as far as overcoating goes, but you could wipe the affected
area down with a cloth soaked in a more volatile solvent, like acetone for
example, before painting.  Careful with the acetone it can eat into the
gelcoat as well.

 

Dwight Veinot

C&C 35 MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

 

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Sent: April 27, 2013 10:49 PM
To: C&C Mailing List
Subject: Stus-List diesel leak on VC17

 

Hi listers,

 

Last autumn, I slightly overfill my fuel tank, and some of it went out the
vent, and onto the VC17 bottom.

 

So now, for prepping the bottom, how can I clean the diesel from the VC17
before repainting?

 

Pierre Tremblay

Avalanche,  #54988

C&C38-3 WK

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Re: Stus-List third battery

[Jim Watts]

Let me correct myself. I upgraded my batteries last fall, I have 3 Group
30's in total and one 24.


That's 144 groups but only 12 volts. 12 volts per group sounds equitable.


On 27 April 2013 18:37, Jim Watts  wrote:

> I have two group 27 deep cycle and one group 24 starting battery in the
> forward compartment and another deep cycle in the aft compartment of the
> quarterberth. Lots of room back there.
>
>
> On 27 April 2013 18:25, Jake Brodersen  wrote:
>
>> Richard,
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I have room for four batteries in the quarterberth.  I currently carry
>> only two.  A large AGM house battery and a slightly smaller AGM battery for
>> house/starting purposes.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Jake
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *Jake Brodersen*
>>
>> *C&C 35 Mk-III*
>>
>> *Midnight Mistress*
>>
>> *Hampton VA*
>>
>> *   *
>>
>> [image: cid:image001.png@01CE3D06.5A990940]**
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of 
>> *Richard
>> H. Bernstein
>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 27, 2013 3:42 PM
>>
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Subject:* Stus-List third battery
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I would like to install a third battery on Luna to give more power on the
>> house side. I am curious where others with C&C 35's have put it. There
>> doesn't seem to be room for another under the starboard quarter berth where
>> the others are. Any advice??
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Richard Bernstein
>>
>> LUNA 1984 C&C 35
>>
>> Lake Champlain, Vermont
>>
>> ** **
>>
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Re: Stus-List third battery

[Jim Watts]

That's only 114...lemme get back to you on that.



On 27 April 2013 22:00, Jim Watts  wrote:

> Let me correct myself. I upgraded my batteries last fall, I have 3 Group
> 30's in total and one 24.
>
>
> That's 144 groups but only 12 volts. 12 volts per group sounds equitable.
>
>
> On 27 April 2013 18:37, Jim Watts  wrote:
>
>> I have two group 27 deep cycle and one group 24 starting battery in the
>> forward compartment and another deep cycle in the aft compartment of the
>> quarterberth. Lots of room back there.
>>
>>
>> On 27 April 2013 18:25, Jake Brodersen  wrote:
>>
>>> Richard,
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> I have room for four batteries in the quarterberth.  I currently carry
>>> only two.  A large AGM house battery and a slightly smaller AGM battery for
>>> house/starting purposes.
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Jake
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *Jake Brodersen*
>>>
>>> *C&C 35 Mk-III*
>>>
>>> *Midnight Mistress*
>>>
>>> *Hampton VA*
>>>
>>> *   *
>>>
>>> [image: cid:image001.png@01CE3D06.5A990940]**
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of 
>>> *Richard
>>> H. Bernstein
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 27, 2013 3:42 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> *Subject:* Stus-List third battery
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> I would like to install a third battery on Luna to give more power on
>>> the house side. I am curious where others with C&C 35's have put it. There
>>> doesn't seem to be room for another under the starboard quarter berth where
>>> the others are. Any advice??
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Richard Bernstein
>>>
>>> LUNA 1984 C&C 35
>>>
>>> Lake Champlain, Vermont
>>>
>>> ** **
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>>
>>
>> --
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>> Paradigm Shift
>> C&C 35 Mk III
>> Victoria, BC
>>
>
>
>
> --
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> Paradigm Shift
> C&C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
>



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Re: Stus-List third battery

[Rich Knowles]

That's just about enough for a good group grope. 

Rich Knowles
Indigo - C&C LF38
Halifax - Nova Scotia


On 2013-04-28, at 2:02, Jim Watts  wrote:

> That's only 114...lemme get back to you on that. 
> 
> 
> 
> On 27 April 2013 22:00, Jim Watts  wrote:
>> Let me correct myself. I upgraded my batteries last fall, I have 3 Group 
>> 30's in total and one 24. 
>> 
>> 
>> That's 144 groups but only 12 volts. 12 volts per group sounds equitable.  
>> 
>> 
>> On 27 April 2013 18:37, Jim Watts  wrote:
>>> I have two group 27 deep cycle and one group 24 starting battery in the 
>>> forward compartment and another deep cycle in the aft compartment of the 
>>> quarterberth. Lots of room back there. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 27 April 2013 18:25, Jake Brodersen  wrote:
 Richard,
 
  
 
 I have room for four batteries in the quarterberth.  I currently carry 
 only two.  A large AGM house battery and a slightly smaller AGM battery 
 for house/starting purposes.
 
  
 
 Jake
 
  
 
 Jake Brodersen
 
 C&C 35 Mk-III
 
 Midnight Mistress
 
 Hampton VA
 
   
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Richard 
 H. Bernstein
 Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 3:42 PM
 
 
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Subject: Stus-List third battery
  
 
 I would like to install a third battery on Luna to give more power on the 
 house side. I am curious where others with C&C 35's have put it. There 
 doesn't seem to be room for another under the starboard quarter berth 
 where the others are. Any advice??
 
  
 
  
 
 Richard Bernstein
 
 LUNA 1984 C&C 35
 
 Lake Champlain, Vermont
 
  
 
 
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>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Paradigm Shift
>>> C&C 35 Mk III
>>> Victoria, BC
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
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>> Paradigm Shift
>> C&C 35 Mk III
>> Victoria, BC
> 
> 
> 
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