[cctalk] Video/keyboard mono cable for Sun 386i
Hi. I recently bought a Sun Microsystems 386i and I discovered (too late...) that monitor and keyboard are connected to the same D15 connector on the back using a "Y" cable (I had experience with other Sun workstations, this was first contact with Intel-based hardware). Unfortunately, I have not such a cable neither I was able to find any info on the web about the pinout/wiring; probably it would be possible to create the cable from scratch (assuming that no other circuitry was inside the original Y cable). Moreover, I discovered that there is more than one option for video boards (mono and color): therefore, there is more than a single Y cable to connect monitor and keyboard. Looking at the official Sun's hardware list, I found this item: 630-1621 386i video/keyboard cable but it does not specify whether it is the mono or the color cable. In any case, it seems impossible to buy it on eBay or similar. Does anybody have some information on how to rebuild it? Thank you. -s
[cctalk] Re: Video/keyboard mono cable for Sun 386i
Thank you! On 30/05/24 11:43, Richard wrote: Hi There, I have a cable attached to my Sun 386i. I used to have spares but sadly no more. I don’t believe there is anything special in the cable. If I have an opportunity I can buzz through and let you know what each pin is in the cable. Give me a week or two and if I haven’t reverted please do reach out Richard Sent from my iPhone On 30 May 2024, at 19:07, Stefano Sanna via cctalk wrote: Hi. I recently bought a Sun Microsystems 386i and I discovered (too late...) that monitor and keyboard are connected to the same D15 connector on the back using a "Y" cable (I had experience with other Sun workstations, this was first contact with Intel-based hardware). Unfortunately, I have not such a cable neither I was able to find any info on the web about the pinout/wiring; probably it would be possible to create the cable from scratch (assuming that no other circuitry was inside the original Y cable). Moreover, I discovered that there is more than one option for video boards (mono and color): therefore, there is more than a single Y cable to connect monitor and keyboard. Looking at the official Sun's hardware list, I found this item: 630-1621 386i video/keyboard cable but it does not specify whether it is the mono or the color cable. In any case, it seems impossible to buy it on eBay or similar. Does anybody have some information on how to rebuild it? Thank you. -s
[cctalk] Re: Video/keyboard mono cable for Sun 386i
Hi. I thought about using the serial connection (which should be enabled only if the video card is removed). Thank you for the advice about the battery: usual issue with SGI, Sony News :-) Unfortunately, the hard disk was been removed before I collected the workstation. Could you please share the link to your post on the VCF Forum? Thank you. -s On 30/05/24 11:53, cz via cctalk wrote: I have one around here somewhere. Sun built two cables, one was for the color boards (CGThree and CGFive) and the other was for monochrome systems (the D15). In the meantime you can hook a computer to the RS232 port and start running the thing headless to see what's there. Note, you're going to have to replace the timekeeper chip (or hack a new battery into it, there's docs on how I did that 30 years ago). I recommend wiring in a dual AAA adapter, that way you can replace the batteries every 15 or so years. Last time I fired up my three 386i's, two of the power supplies had blown up and one of the boards would not pass diagnostics. Of the supplies, one was hopeless so I hacked in a standard PC-AT supply board and got everything running (you don't NEED the -15 volts, but heck some ISA board you plug in will want it :-) and I figured out how to fix the other one by wiring in a new 12 volt kick starter supply to get the main supply up and running. I wrote up all of this on the vcf forum. Worth a read. If it's got a hard disk and it spins I'd recommend hooking it up to a SCSI adapter and doing a dd image of it first. Then you can figure out the partitions by whacking away at the image (I did this), then mount the volumes on another system, grab /etc/passwd, and crack the passwords in about 4 hours with john or a related tool. Once up, put it on the public internet and confuse the hell out of hackers. Have fun! CZ On 5/30/2024 4:59 AM, Stefano Sanna via cctalk wrote: Hi. I recently bought a Sun Microsystems 386i and I discovered (too late...) that monitor and keyboard are connected to the same D15 connector on the back using a "Y" cable (I had experience with other Sun workstations, this was first contact with Intel-based hardware). Unfortunately, I have not such a cable neither I was able to find any info on the web about the pinout/wiring; probably it would be possible to create the cable from scratch (assuming that no other circuitry was inside the original Y cable). Moreover, I discovered that there is more than one option for video boards (mono and color): therefore, there is more than a single Y cable to connect monitor and keyboard. Looking at the official Sun's hardware list, I found this item: 630-1621 386i video/keyboard cable but it does not specify whether it is the mono or the color cable. In any case, it seems impossible to buy it on eBay or similar. Does anybody have some information on how to rebuild it? Thank you. -s
[cctalk] Re: Video/keyboard mono cable for Sun 386i
[sending message again, with attachment replaced by a link: https://www.mmcc.it/resources/misc/IMG_7975_video.JPG ] Thank you Richard! To use this cable, I need to replace my video card with a color one. Please, see attached picture of the connector I have on my 386i. I suppose that finding the video card is harder then the cable itself! :-) However, this cable could be a good start for trying to do some reverse engineering of the pinouts. Since the code I found is different, I supposed that we can assume 630-1621 is the code of monochrome screen/cable. BR. -s On 30/05/24 11:47, Richard wrote: Oh and there is this s-l400.jpg SUN Microsystems 530-1366-01 Monitor + Keyboard Cable 13W3 Mini Din8 /A4 8 Pin <https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/295331844851?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=705-154756-20017-0&ssspo=Jl-IULHVQ9G&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=d0DI9IFhQqK&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY> ebay.com.au <https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/295331844851?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=705-154756-20017-0&ssspo=Jl-IULHVQ9G&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=d0DI9IFhQqK&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY> <https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/295331844851?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=705-154756-20017-0&ssspo=Jl-IULHVQ9G&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=d0DI9IFhQqK&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY> Which looks right Sent from my iPhone On 30 May 2024, at 19:07, Stefano Sanna via cctalk wrote: Hi. I recently bought a Sun Microsystems 386i and I discovered (too late...) that monitor and keyboard are connected to the same D15 connector on the back using a "Y" cable (I had experience with other Sun workstations, this was first contact with Intel-based hardware). Unfortunately, I have not such a cable neither I was able to find any info on the web about the pinout/wiring; probably it would be possible to create the cable from scratch (assuming that no other circuitry was inside the original Y cable). Moreover, I discovered that there is more than one option for video boards (mono and color): therefore, there is more than a single Y cable to connect monitor and keyboard. Looking at the official Sun's hardware list, I found this item: 630-1621 386i video/keyboard cable but it does not specify whether it is the mono or the color cable. In any case, it seems impossible to buy it on eBay or similar. Does anybody have some information on how to rebuild it? Thank you. -s
[cctalk] Re: Video/keyboard mono cable for Sun 386i
Thank you! On 30/05/24 15:10, Christopher Zach via cctalk wrote: Am at a conference just do a search on 386i and I should pop up On May 30, 2024 9:06:48 AM EDT, Stefano Sanna via cctalk wrote: Hi. I thought about using the serial connection (which should be enabled only if the video card is removed). Thank you for the advice about the battery: usual issue with SGI, Sony News :-) Unfortunately, the hard disk was been removed before I collected the workstation. Could you please share the link to your post on the VCF Forum? Thank you. -s On 30/05/24 11:53, cz via cctalk wrote: I have one around here somewhere. Sun built two cables, one was for the color boards (CGThree and CGFive) and the other was for monochrome systems (the D15). In the meantime you can hook a computer to the RS232 port and start running the thing headless to see what's there. Note, you're going to have to replace the timekeeper chip (or hack a new battery into it, there's docs on how I did that 30 years ago). I recommend wiring in a dual AAA adapter, that way you can replace the batteries every 15 or so years. Last time I fired up my three 386i's, two of the power supplies had blown up and one of the boards would not pass diagnostics. Of the supplies, one was hopeless so I hacked in a standard PC-AT supply board and got everything running (you don't NEED the -15 volts, but heck some ISA board you plug in will want it :-) and I figured out how to fix the other one by wiring in a new 12 volt kick starter supply to get the main supply up and running. I wrote up all of this on the vcf forum. Worth a read. If it's got a hard disk and it spins I'd recommend hooking it up to a SCSI adapter and doing a dd image of it first. Then you can figure out the partitions by whacking away at the image (I did this), then mount the volumes on another system, grab /etc/passwd, and crack the passwords in about 4 hours with john or a related tool. Once up, put it on the public internet and confuse the hell out of hackers. Have fun! CZ On 5/30/2024 4:59 AM, Stefano Sanna via cctalk wrote: Hi. I recently bought a Sun Microsystems 386i and I discovered (too late...) that monitor and keyboard are connected to the same D15 connector on the back using a "Y" cable (I had experience with other Sun workstations, this was first contact with Intel-based hardware). Unfortunately, I have not such a cable neither I was able to find any info on the web about the pinout/wiring; probably it would be possible to create the cable from scratch (assuming that no other circuitry was inside the original Y cable). Moreover, I discovered that there is more than one option for video boards (mono and color): therefore, there is more than a single Y cable to connect monitor and keyboard. Looking at the official Sun's hardware list, I found this item: 630-1621 386i video/keyboard cable but it does not specify whether it is the mono or the color cable. In any case, it seems impossible to buy it on eBay or similar. Does anybody have some information on how to rebuild it? Thank you. -s
