Re: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem
> From: Jerry Weiss > I am trying to understand how the diagnostics didn't reveal this defect. Vondada #12: "Diagnostics are highly efficient in finding solved problems." :-) Noel
IBM terminals with keyboards, 3174 controllers, 4700 controllers
Previously I have posted some vendors who have old hardware they are willing to sell. Earlier this week I was in San Antonio, and I stopped by an old friend to say hello. He has several 3174 controllers, and every imaginable add-on available for them. Pallets of them! Also IBM 4700 banking controllers, and 1 monitor. No keyboards. 8" floppy drives. IBM terminals, most models available, $85 tested and working with matching keyboard, no severe screen burn. Contact bfloyd at southtexasproducts dot com. Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 830-370-3239 cell sa...@elecplus.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: IBM terminals with keyboards, 3174 controllers, 4700 controllers
Any pics available? -- Will On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 12:20 PM Electronics Plus via cctalk wrote: > > Previously I have posted some vendors who have old hardware they are willing > to sell. > > Earlier this week I was in San Antonio, and I stopped by an old friend to > say hello. > > He has several 3174 controllers, and every imaginable add-on available for > them. Pallets of them! > > Also IBM 4700 banking controllers, and 1 monitor. No keyboards. > > 8" floppy drives. > > IBM terminals, most models available, $85 tested and working with matching > keyboard, no severe screen burn. > > > > Contact bfloyd at southtexasproducts dot com. > > > > Cindy Croxton > > Electronics Plus > > 1613 Water Street > > Kerrville, TX 78028 > > 830-370-3239 cell > > sa...@elecplus.com > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus
RE: IBM terminals with keyboards, 3174 controllers, 4700 controllers
I have asked him for pics. Cindy -Original Message- From: William Donzelli [mailto:wdonze...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 11:23 AM To: Electronics Plus; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: IBM terminals with keyboards, 3174 controllers, 4700 controllers Any pics available? -- Will On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 12:20 PM Electronics Plus via cctalk wrote: > > Previously I have posted some vendors who have old hardware they are willing > to sell. > > Earlier this week I was in San Antonio, and I stopped by an old friend to > say hello. > > He has several 3174 controllers, and every imaginable add-on available for > them. Pallets of them! > > Also IBM 4700 banking controllers, and 1 monitor. No keyboards. > > 8" floppy drives. > > IBM terminals, most models available, $85 tested and working with matching > keyboard, no severe screen burn. > > > > Contact bfloyd at southtexasproducts dot com. > > > > Cindy Croxton > > Electronics Plus > > 1613 Water Street > > Kerrville, TX 78028 > > 830-370-3239 cell > > sa...@elecplus.com > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: Intel PC-BUBBLE Card documentation?
On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 5:39 PM Chris Hanson via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Does anyone have documentation stashed away for the Intel PC-BUBBLE Card? > The PC-BUBBLE is an 8-bit ISA card that Intel produced for prototyping > bubble memory applications in the mid-1980s, the ROM on mine is v3.0 and > says it’s copyright 1986. > > I don’t want to insert this into a system until I’m sure all the (many) > jumpers are configured reasonably, and I’m sure that the empty 40-pin > socket at U5 isn’t something that’s critical to its operation… > Is there a 40-pin chip elsewhere? There should be one 40-pin chip, which is the Bubble Memory Controller (BMC). That's a D7220 for 1Mbit bubble devices (7110), or a D7225 for 4Mbit bubble devices (7114).
RE: Another dealer going under
Cindy, Did Leslie ever get you a list of stuff she has? Thanks. Ali > -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of > Electronics Plus via cctalk > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 9:25 AM > To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' > Subject: RE: Another dealer going under > > A Plus Computer Products > 5115 N. Douglas Fir Road > Suite N > Calabasas, CA 91302 > Leslie Foumberg, Owner > Leslie Foumberg [les...@apluscp.com] > > You might try emailing her directly. > > I have sent her an email letting her know she might start getting some > oddball requests. Also requested a spreadsheet of inventory, or lots of > pics > on a shared link, and then you can email her your interest. Sorry, but > I > have a sick husband right now, and no time to play intermediary. > > Cindy > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: IBM terminals with keyboards, 3174 controllers, 4700 controllers
Yeah, pics would be good. I'd be interested in a channel attached 3174. From: William Donzelli via cctalk Sent: Thursday, 14 February 2019 11:22 To: Electronics Plus; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: IBM terminals with keyboards, 3174 controllers, 4700 controllers Any pics available? -- Will On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 12:20 PM Electronics Plus via cctalk wrote: > > Previously I have posted some vendors who have old hardware they are willing > to sell. > > Earlier this week I was in San Antonio, and I stopped by an old friend to > say hello. > > He has several 3174 controllers, and every imaginable add-on available for > them. Pallets of them! > > Also IBM 4700 banking controllers, and 1 monitor. No keyboards. > > 8" floppy drives. > > IBM terminals, most models available, $85 tested and working with matching > keyboard, no severe screen burn. > > > > Contact bfloyd at southtexasproducts dot com. > > > > Cindy Croxton > > Electronics Plus > > 1613 Water Street > > Kerrville, TX 78028 > > 830-370-3239 cell > > sa...@elecplus.com > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Vendor turned into recycler
Just outside Dallas is a very large warehouse. I have been there before, and have posted about it before. It has been acquired by a recycling company, sort of. The old man who owns the stuff thinks of the equip as his children. A week from Sat I will be going to the warehouse with 2 or 3 guys from San Antonio. We will arrive about noon, and hire a truck to bring stuff home before it turns into mincemeat. He will not sell to the public, but I have a license. If you want to attend, I can buy stuff for you. The address is 9525 Skillman St, Dallas, TX 75243 Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 830-370-3239 cell sa...@elecplus.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
RE: mainframes and other stuff
This post is being brought back to life. A fellow in Utica, NY has some T5140s. He is getting a list together for me. Local pickup available, or he will ship. -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Alex McWhirter Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:37 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: mainframes and other stuff I would be looking for the following for Sun, ill have to double check on the IBM machines. Sun Fire T1000 Sun Fire T2000 Sun Fire T5140 Sun Fire T5240 Sun Fire T5440 Sun Enterprise 1 Sun Fire E25K Sun Fire V490 Sun Fire V890 Sun Fire V1280 Sun Fire V245 Sun Fire V215 > On Nov 20, 2014, at 2:50 PM, Electronics Plus wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Alex > McWhirter > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 1:42 PM > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: mainframes and other stuff > > I would have an interest in any larger Sun or IBM machines that aren’t x86. > How many of these machines do they keep around? > > None at the moment. > > Not x86 is not specific enough. RS6000 series, or RS6000 model -xxx > would work. > Sun pizza box won't work, but Sparc Station 2, 3, 4, these will; do you see > what I mean? > > > Cindy > >> On Nov 20, 2014, at 2:36 PM, Electronics Plus wrote: >> >> Mainframes and other stuff >> >> >> >> Recycle center in NC is willing to save out "stuff" for people. >> >> No, no one can go in the back and scrounge. >> >> No, he does not want a lot of emails from people. >> >> Yes, he gets big blue and orange and beige 6 foot tall OLD mainframes >> in all the time. They squash them at the moment. >> >> Yes, he will package small orders, and will properly palletize larger >> orders. >> >> Local pick up will be available after the new year. >> >> >> >> So, if u can send me a picture with description and some part numbers, >> along with what you want to pay, I will consolidate things and make >> arrangements. >> >> Please don't ask for specific boards from DEC; they don't want to go >> into that much detail. >> >> QBUS will mean nothing to him. >> >> Big orange cabinet that says x is much more likely to get saved. >> >> >> >> They are moving to new warehouse 1st of the month, so all this will >> start happening after the 1st of the year. >> >> >> >> Cindy Croxton >> >> Electronics Plus >> >> 1613 Water Street >> >> Kerrville, TX 78028 >> >> 830-792-3400 phone >> >> 830-792-3404 fax >> >> sa...@elecplus.com >> >> AOL IM elcpls >> >> >> > > > > > - > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4794 / Virus Database: 4189/8600 - Release Date: 11/20/14 > > - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4794 / Virus Database: 4189/8600 - Release Date: 11/20/14 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
RE: mainframes and other stuff
This post is being brought back to life. A fellow in Utica, NY has some T5140s. He is getting a list together for me. Local pickup available, or he will ship. Apparently the email for Alex is no longer viable. Getting emails from other dealers also, wanting to know if complete systems are wanted, or base machines? Price point? -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Alex McWhirter Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:37 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: mainframes and other stuff I would be looking for the following for Sun, ill have to double check on the IBM machines. Sun Fire T1000 Sun Fire T2000 Sun Fire T5140 Sun Fire T5240 Sun Fire T5440 Sun Enterprise 1 Sun Fire E25K Sun Fire V490 Sun Fire V890 Sun Fire V1280 Sun Fire V245 Sun Fire V215 > On Nov 20, 2014, at 2:50 PM, Electronics Plus wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Alex > McWhirter > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 1:42 PM > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: mainframes and other stuff > > I would have an interest in any larger Sun or IBM machines that aren’t x86. > How many of these machines do they keep around? > > None at the moment. > > Not x86 is not specific enough. RS6000 series, or RS6000 model -xxx > would work. > Sun pizza box won't work, but Sparc Station 2, 3, 4, these will; do you see > what I mean? > > > Cindy > >> On Nov 20, 2014, at 2:36 PM, Electronics Plus wrote: >> >> Mainframes and other stuff >> >> >> >> Recycle center in NC is willing to save out "stuff" for people. >> >> No, no one can go in the back and scrounge. >> >> No, he does not want a lot of emails from people. >> >> Yes, he gets big blue and orange and beige 6 foot tall OLD mainframes >> in all the time. They squash them at the moment. >> >> Yes, he will package small orders, and will properly palletize larger >> orders. >> >> Local pick up will be available after the new year. >> >> >> >> So, if u can send me a picture with description and some part numbers, >> along with what you want to pay, I will consolidate things and make >> arrangements. >> >> Please don't ask for specific boards from DEC; they don't want to go >> into that much detail. >> >> QBUS will mean nothing to him. >> >> Big orange cabinet that says x is much more likely to get saved. >> >> >> >> They are moving to new warehouse 1st of the month, so all this will >> start happening after the 1st of the year. >> >> >> >> Cindy Croxton >> >> Electronics Plus >> >> 1613 Water Street >> >> Kerrville, TX 78028 >> >> 830-792-3400 phone >> >> 830-792-3404 fax >> >> sa...@elecplus.com >> >> AOL IM elcpls >> >> >> > > > > > - > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4794 / Virus Database: 4189/8600 - Release Date: 11/20/14 > > - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4794 / Virus Database: 4189/8600 - Release Date: 11/20/14 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
RE: mainframes and other stuff
Memory Ten in California has Sun Fire T1000 Sun Fire T2000 Sun Fire T5240 V490 V245 and more. -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Alex McWhirter Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:37 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: mainframes and other stuff I would be looking for the following for Sun, ill have to double check on the IBM machines. Sun Fire T1000 Sun Fire T2000 Sun Fire T5140 Sun Fire T5240 Sun Fire T5440 Sun Enterprise 1 Sun Fire E25K Sun Fire V490 Sun Fire V890 Sun Fire V1280 Sun Fire V245 Sun Fire V215 > On Nov 20, 2014, at 2:50 PM, Electronics Plus wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Alex > McWhirter > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 1:42 PM > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: mainframes and other stuff > > I would have an interest in any larger Sun or IBM machines that aren’t x86. > How many of these machines do they keep around? > > None at the moment. > > Not x86 is not specific enough. RS6000 series, or RS6000 model -xxx > would work. > Sun pizza box won't work, but Sparc Station 2, 3, 4, these will; do you see > what I mean? > > > Cindy > >> On Nov 20, 2014, at 2:36 PM, Electronics Plus wrote: >> >> Mainframes and other stuff >> >> >> >> Recycle center in NC is willing to save out "stuff" for people. >> >> No, no one can go in the back and scrounge. >> >> No, he does not want a lot of emails from people. >> >> Yes, he gets big blue and orange and beige 6 foot tall OLD mainframes >> in all the time. They squash them at the moment. >> >> Yes, he will package small orders, and will properly palletize larger >> orders. >> >> Local pick up will be available after the new year. >> >> >> >> So, if u can send me a picture with description and some part numbers, >> along with what you want to pay, I will consolidate things and make >> arrangements. >> >> Please don't ask for specific boards from DEC; they don't want to go >> into that much detail. >> >> QBUS will mean nothing to him. >> >> Big orange cabinet that says x is much more likely to get saved. >> >> >> >> They are moving to new warehouse 1st of the month, so all this will >> start happening after the 1st of the year. >> >> >> >> Cindy Croxton >> >> Electronics Plus >> >> 1613 Water Street >> >> Kerrville, TX 78028 >> >> 830-792-3400 phone >> >> 830-792-3404 fax >> >> sa...@elecplus.com >> >> AOL IM elcpls >> >> >> > > > > > - > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4794 / Virus Database: 4189/8600 - Release Date: 11/20/14 > > - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4794 / Virus Database: 4189/8600 - Release Date: 11/20/14 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
RE: mainframes and other stuff
David Beinstein / Sr. Account Executive Vibrant Technologies 6533 Flying Cloud Drive, Suite 1200, Eden Prairie, MN 55344 dbeinst...@vibrant.com | 952-653-1749 (O) | 203-913-6967 (C) SKYPE Vibrant DBeinsteinTRILLIAN VibrantDavid Old DEC and Sun servers and other things. Please email him directly. -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Alex McWhirter Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:37 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: mainframes and other stuff I would be looking for the following for Sun, ill have to double check on the IBM machines. Sun Fire T1000 Sun Fire T2000 Sun Fire T5140 Sun Fire T5240 Sun Fire T5440 Sun Enterprise 1 Sun Fire E25K Sun Fire V490 Sun Fire V890 Sun Fire V1280 Sun Fire V245 Sun Fire V215 > On Nov 20, 2014, at 2:50 PM, Electronics Plus wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Alex > McWhirter > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 1:42 PM > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: mainframes and other stuff > > I would have an interest in any larger Sun or IBM machines that aren’t x86. > How many of these machines do they keep around? > > None at the moment. > > Not x86 is not specific enough. RS6000 series, or RS6000 model -xxx > would work. > Sun pizza box won't work, but Sparc Station 2, 3, 4, these will; do you see > what I mean? > > > Cindy > >> On Nov 20, 2014, at 2:36 PM, Electronics Plus wrote: >> >> Mainframes and other stuff >> >> >> >> Recycle center in NC is willing to save out "stuff" for people. >> >> No, no one can go in the back and scrounge. >> >> No, he does not want a lot of emails from people. >> >> Yes, he gets big blue and orange and beige 6 foot tall OLD mainframes >> in all the time. They squash them at the moment. >> >> Yes, he will package small orders, and will properly palletize larger >> orders. >> >> Local pick up will be available after the new year. >> >> >> >> So, if u can send me a picture with description and some part numbers, >> along with what you want to pay, I will consolidate things and make >> arrangements. >> >> Please don't ask for specific boards from DEC; they don't want to go >> into that much detail. >> >> QBUS will mean nothing to him. >> >> Big orange cabinet that says x is much more likely to get saved. >> >> >> >> They are moving to new warehouse 1st of the month, so all this will >> start happening after the 1st of the year. >> >> >> >> Cindy Croxton >> >> Electronics Plus >> >> 1613 Water Street >> >> Kerrville, TX 78028 >> >> 830-792-3400 phone >> >> 830-792-3404 fax >> >> sa...@elecplus.com >> >> AOL IM elcpls >> >> >> > > > > > - > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4794 / Virus Database: 4189/8600 - Release Date: 11/20/14 > > - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4794 / Virus Database: 4189/8600 - Release Date: 11/20/14 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
RE: mainframes and other stuff
Fred Dikeman Data Instruments, Inc O 1-770-919-2400 Atlanta GA area. Old Sun, DEC, Dell, mostly all vintage stuff. No IBM stuff. Pallets of old Cisco comm. equip. -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Alex McWhirter Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:37 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: mainframes and other stuff I would be looking for the following for Sun, ill have to double check on the IBM machines. Sun Fire T1000 Sun Fire T2000 Sun Fire T5140 Sun Fire T5240 Sun Fire T5440 Sun Enterprise 1 Sun Fire E25K Sun Fire V490 Sun Fire V890 Sun Fire V1280 Sun Fire V245 Sun Fire V215 > On Nov 20, 2014, at 2:50 PM, Electronics Plus wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Alex > McWhirter > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 1:42 PM > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: mainframes and other stuff > > I would have an interest in any larger Sun or IBM machines that aren’t x86. > How many of these machines do they keep around? > > None at the moment. > > Not x86 is not specific enough. RS6000 series, or RS6000 model -xxx > would work. > Sun pizza box won't work, but Sparc Station 2, 3, 4, these will; do you see > what I mean? > > > Cindy > >> On Nov 20, 2014, at 2:36 PM, Electronics Plus wrote: >> >> Mainframes and other stuff >> >> >> >> Recycle center in NC is willing to save out "stuff" for people. >> >> No, no one can go in the back and scrounge. >> >> No, he does not want a lot of emails from people. >> >> Yes, he gets big blue and orange and beige 6 foot tall OLD mainframes >> in all the time. They squash them at the moment. >> >> Yes, he will package small orders, and will properly palletize larger >> orders. >> >> Local pick up will be available after the new year. >> >> >> >> So, if u can send me a picture with description and some part numbers, >> along with what you want to pay, I will consolidate things and make >> arrangements. >> >> Please don't ask for specific boards from DEC; they don't want to go >> into that much detail. >> >> QBUS will mean nothing to him. >> >> Big orange cabinet that says x is much more likely to get saved. >> >> >> >> They are moving to new warehouse 1st of the month, so all this will >> start happening after the 1st of the year. >> >> >> >> Cindy Croxton >> >> Electronics Plus >> >> 1613 Water Street >> >> Kerrville, TX 78028 >> >> 830-792-3400 phone >> >> 830-792-3404 fax >> >> sa...@elecplus.com >> >> AOL IM elcpls >> >> >> > > > > > - > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4794 / Virus Database: 4189/8600 - Release Date: 11/20/14 > > - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4794 / Virus Database: 4189/8600 - Release Date: 11/20/14 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Sun T5440 servers, configured
Hello Cindy. I did have some of the Sun T5440's in stock. I can cover at least 4 units that would be configured. The config and cost is listed below. Let me know if you need the config adjusted in any way. Thank you. (qty-4) T5440/4x1.4ghz/128gb/2x300gbhd/DVD: $525 each BEN WILLIAMS SUN - ORACLE BROKER REP P: 315-732-1420 EXT.304 F: 315-732-1502 SKYPE: b...@adirondacknetworks.net TRILLIAN: BENANET Please contact him directly to purchase. Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 830-370-3239 cell sa...@elecplus.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Sun stuff in Canada
WTS sun T5220, USED, qty 10, CALL, We have a huge qty of sun available interested let me know sun equip available now: 1X STORAGETEK 3510 FC 1X x4100 m2 1X sparc t520 3 x enterprise 250 1X SUN SPARC 220r 2 X SUNFIRE V210 4 X ENTERPRISE T5120 1X ENTERPRISE M4000 1X SUNFIRE V4440 1X sunfire V880 3X X SUNFIRE 240 2X SUNFIRE V245 5 X SUNFIRE V490 1X SUNFIRE 280R 3 X SUNFIRE 440 1X SUNFIRE 4200 1X SUNFIRE 4100 1X SUNFIRE X4100 M2 5X SUNFIRE V120 25 X BLADE T6340 1X BLADE T6240 10 X BLADE CHASSIS 6000 2 X BLADE X6220 1X BLADE T6320 10 X BLADE T6300 Daniel Fecteau 6025 Arthur sauvé Mirabel, Quebec J7N 2W4 TEL: 450-969-1616 ext 101 Mail: s...@savesysteme.com Does not have to be sold as a lot, you can pick and choose. Please contact Daniel directly if interested. Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 830-370-3239 cell sa...@elecplus.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Sun dealer in CA
Ken Bush - IT Solutions Specialist Parallel Technology, LLC 23510 Telo Ave #7 Torrance, CA 90505 310-320-8477 x1 Trillian "kenbush4sun" Lots of old Sun gear, will configure as requested. Please contact him directly. Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 830-370-3239 cell sa...@elecplus.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: Intel PC-BUBBLE Card documentation?
The empty 40-pin should be an Intel 7224 if the card is using 7114 bubble modules, and the 7220 if it's the 7110 bubble modules. For the card in question, I'm pretty sure it's the 7114 module. The IC is required as that's the bubble memory controller itself. On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 4:39 PM Chris Hanson via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Does anyone have documentation stashed away for the Intel PC-BUBBLE Card? > The PC-BUBBLE is an 8-bit ISA card that Intel produced for prototyping > bubble memory applications in the mid-1980s, the ROM on mine is v3.0 and > says it’s copyright 1986. > > I don’t want to insert this into a system until I’m sure all the (many) > jumpers are configured reasonably, and I’m sure that the empty 40-pin > socket at U5 isn’t something that’s critical to its operation… > > -- Chris > >
Re: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem
Ethan Dicks wrote: > I have had an RK11-C for a long time that I've never tried to > power up (I got an RKV11-D and used that on Qbus machines > instead). Wow, someone else with an RKV11-D! I thought I was the only person who had one. I modified mine (using the dead bug technique) to add 18-bit addressing instead of just 16, and ran it successfully with RT-11 and RSX-11M on my 11/73 system. I have had DEC people visit my place, look at the RKV11-D, and say "DEC never made anything like that!". :-) Alan "and I don't exist either" Frisbie
PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem
> From: Paul Koning > or a backup team of subsystem experts at the home office to call on. Actually, the actual hardware problem wasn't too hard for Fritz to find, I gather, once we knew exactly was failing (the RK11), and how (at 017, the XM incremented). It's not like it was a comes-and-goes kind of problem (it was quite solid and repeatable), or anything like that, so I'm not sure a 'team of experts' would really have helped. And the exact details on the failure were also pretty easy to find, once we got past a lot of other distractions! Once it became clear that the pure text was getting trashed, it was pretty easy (modulo some confusion caused by the differing OS images in the 'Ritchie' and 'Wellsch' distros :-) to stop the machine once it had a) assembled the pure text in main memory, and b) swapped it out. Looking at the copy in main memory verified it was good _before_ it was swapped, looking at the arguments on the stack gave us the disk block it was written to, and looking at the actual contents of the RK (which PDP11GUI has a mode to do) showed us the first 02400 bytes were good, and then it was trash. Bingo! Then, looking at the RK registers after the transfer had completed showed something had gone wrong in the hardware - the address left showing afterward was not the start_address+size - the XM had incremented inappropriately! And since the start address for the transfer in physical memory was 0165400, and 0165400+2400 = 017, that sounded pretty suspicious! So, that all happened pretty quickly. Really, the part that took the longest was getting past all the confusing noise: my confusion about R5, the malfunctioning front panel, the different versions of the OS, etc, etc. Noel
Re: Intel PC-BUBBLE Card documentation?
On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 2:53 PM Josh via cctalk wrote: > The empty 40-pin should be an Intel 7224 if the card is using 7114 bubble > modules, and the 7220 if it's the 7110 bubble modules. > Although there is a datasheet for the 7224, I don't think it went into volume production. It looks like they made the 7225 instead. I'm not sure what, if any, differences there are between the 7224 and 7225; it might just be a part number change. For the 7220 used with Intel 1Mbit bubble devices (7110), one has to be sure that it's an _Intel_ 7220, usually D7220-1. The NEC μPD7220 is a graphics chip (equivalent to Intel 82720).
Re: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem
That's right -- I wasn't without an army, it was just a very small and quite dedicated army! :-) I think I'd have gone down many blind alleys without help and perspective provided by others here, and in particular a lot guidance provided by Noel over the past couple weeks in private correspondence enabling the use of V6 as a test case and investigative tool. For this I am very grateful. As those of you who have worked on these machines know, they are just so damn serviceable, by design. It's very empowering! --FritzM.
IBM 3174 C 6.4 Microcode Disks?
Classic Computer Fans, I posted this to the IBM-Legacy-Hercules mailing list. I just realized it probably wouldn't hurt to post it here too. I'm finally in possession of a box that hopefully is capable or can be made capable of connecting a real terminal to Hercules. It's a 3174 11L. It was retired last year where I work. I finally got the okay to save it from being sent to a scrapper. I love the build quality of older IBM gear, except when I'm trying to move such gear. Between the 3174 and a 9406-520 I also acquired, I pulled or strained something in my left arm moving them into place. It's currently wired to run on 220v. I think I've seen mentioned somewhere that it can be changed to run on 110v. If that's the case, does anyone have a pointer to documentation on what's involved? It has dual floppy drives. At least one drive is a 2.4MB drive. But, all the microcode disks I have are at level B 4.6. Does anyone know where I can get a set of C 6.4 control and control extension disks. From what I've heard those are what's needed to enable an attached terminal to connect to other systems via telnet. It has a token ring card. I will probably be able to get the MAU it was connected to, and possibly the router that acted as a token ring to Ethernet bridge. I'm not sure how much memory it has. Does anyone have any tips on determining the amount of memory it has, and/or identifying its boards? These are the numbers on its boards: 9210 9351 9052 z2 9053 9501 Plus the boards for coax connections. -- Kevin http://www.RawFedDogs.net http://www.Lassie.xyz http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org Bruceville, TX What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works! Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum. Posted by: Kevin Monceaux Yahoo Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ibm-legacy-hercules/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ibm-legacy-hercules/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: ibm-legacy-hercules-dig...@yahoogroups.com ibm-legacy-hercules-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ibm-legacy-hercules-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo Groups is subject to: https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/ -- Kevin http://www.RawFedDogs.net http://www.Lassie.xyz http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org Bruceville, TX What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works! Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum.
Re: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem
I got a laugh out of this anecdote. Of course, folks heard me chuckle and I tried to share the joke but Way too geeky for public consumption. Back in 2000-ish, I was upgrading my DG MV4000/dc to 8mb so as to be able to run the snazzy AOS/VS II tapes I'd got along with the 9 track drive I hacked onto the machine... The install would start and then bomb at a certain point every time. I decided to work the machine hard and then pull the board and give a good SNIFF. This is a 15x15 inch board populated with 256kx1 drams. The time in the machine got the board cooking nicely, and when I smelled a certain charred smell in the vicinity of a 74ls04, I knew it was that magic black smoke. I pulled a 74HCT04 from a known-good isa card, socketed the spot and viola! Working 8mb board. It isn't ALLWAYS the most expensive chip, thank God, and sometimes even us not- as-bright guys come off with a win. I really enjoy reading this list even though I don't contribute all that often or anything of much value. It is a pleasure to watch you guys work. Jeff On Thu, 2019-02-14 at 12:00 -0600, cctalk-requ...@classiccmp.org wrote: > Re: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem > When our 11/45 failed in the MMU in 1975, my classmate Josh Rosen traced the failing path on the schematics. When Jim Newport the field service engineer showed up, Josh described the diagnostics result that pointed at the failed path, and added "This is the failed chip" (pointing to one particular chip. Jim asked "Why that one?" Josh answered "because that is the most expensive chip". It turned out he was right. paul
Re: IBM 3174 C 6.4 Microcode Disks?
On 2/14/19 8:28 PM, Kevin Monceaux via cctalk wrote: I'm finally in possession of a box that hopefully is capable or can be made capable of connecting a real terminal to Hercules. It's a 3174 11L. It was retired last year where I work. I finally got the okay to save it from being sent to a scrapper. I love the build quality of older IBM gear, except when I'm trying to move such gear. Between the 3174 and a 9406-520 I also acquired, I pulled or strained something in my left arm moving them into place. Nice haul. It has a token ring card. I will probably be able to get the MAU it was connected to, and possibly the router that acted as a token ring to Ethernet bridge. I'm quite interested in the network configuration. You mentioned telnet, which largely implies TCP/IP, which in combination with Token Ring means specific things. Things which I question about how much of a "bridge" the device was as much as a gateway. Or, if it's telnet like, but not actually telnet ~> TCP/IP, then it could be other things, but I think they are more problematic to "bridge" to Ethernet. -- Grant. . . . unix || die
Re: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem
> Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 15:03:41 -0500 > From: Paul Koning > To: Jay Jaeger , "General Discussion: On-Topic and > Off-Topic Posts" > Subject: Re: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > On Feb 13, 2019, at 1:20 PM, Jay Jaeger via cctalk > wrote: > > > > ... > > Maybe that story about FE's using Unix as a test to confirm operation > > even when diagnostics said the machine was OK was not so much just a > > legend? > > It still fels like a legend. My experience with DEC field service > engineers is that they used the diagnostics. In the PDP-11 era, Unix > knowledge around DEC was pretty sparse, especially early on when it > could be found only in the Telephone Products Group (Armando > Stettner). RSTS would be more plausible, but I never saw that in the > hads of FS engineers either. > By and large diagnostics would find problems. I've seen a number in > the 1970s, including a messy data path failure in the 11/45 MMU where > we (college students) did the initial diagnosis while the FS engineer > was on his way. My suspicion is that things not solved by diagnostics > would be escalated to the "wizard from Maynard". And they'd probably > start replacing whole subsystems. I've seen that once, when our > college RSTS-11 system (11/20, 16 DL-11 lines) was crashing on average > once a day for months. DEC brought in several of those "wizards". The > "fix" was to replace the 11/20 by a "spare part" -- an 11/45 with more > memory, a DH11, and RSTS/E. Decades later I was told that the wizards > actually pinned the blame on the college FM broadcast transmitter, > about 200 feet down the hall from the computer center. That may well > be, though I didn't heard that at the time. RSTS did get used in > manufacturing, at Final Assembly & Test sites like Westminster MA and > Salem NH, where PDP-11 systems large enough to run RSTS/E were > subjected to a load test of exerciser programs running under that OS. > The way it was explained to us is that a system that would be happy > with such a test would also be happy with any customer application. > It's not clear if that was because RSTS would load things more than > most, or was more finicky about hardware glitches than most, but it > certainly was the practice for quite some time. Of course, not all > PDP-11 configurations could be tested that way. paul I guess the experience in NJ was a bit different since AT&T had two dedicated Field Service offices who handled their sites including Bell Labs. I was on the Commercial/Government side from 81-86 and we didn't get to play with RSTS on customer sites at all (but sometimes we got to play in the in-house machines in Princeton or on our own hardware). It was a bit different in the Vax side since many diags were run under VAX/VMS and as a brand new hire I was doing Vax installs -- including installing the VMS 2.x and 3.x on 11/780's and 11/750's at install time. If they had paid for software installation -- the software guys would wipe and reinstall. If not we left the pack and prayed the customer wouldn't wipe the diags that we installed on the disk when we build the VMS pack. Realistically the only thing the customer needed to do after we got done was tweak the systen parameters, check the swap etc. and lay on the layered products like languages. Things got much more interesting when the VMS3.x and 4.x got CI780's and HSC50's. That was more involved than the easy VMS 2.x-3.x install. As far as the 11/70's -- I'm building a pidp1170... My last 11/70 install was around 84 or so when I put in a late DECDatasystem 570 blue 11/70 with the FCC Cabinets at AT&T in Freehold. As far as the Wizard from Maynard -- one story from my branch support guy (rumored to be about his brother on the 11/70 line in (I think in Westminster MA... not Salem or other NH plants) had an intermittant 11/70 that would crash every couple of days and they could run all the diags and DEC X11 with no issues. They called over their in-house wizard who ran toggle-in programs from the front panel -- playing the switches like piano keys with both hands. After about a half hour his comment was "Clean the terminator fingers." Machine ran like a SOB once the gold fingers were cleaned. Weirdest 11/70 mess I had was after I left DEC to work for a third party maintenance group. Their regional support was in Dallas. I was in NJ. They couldn't find their support guy so they rushed me on a plane to Chicago to work with two techs who were babysitting a mess they had no clue on. The site was WW Granger in Skokie and I arrived at 3AM... They had a 5 or 6 story warehouse which was a totally robotic automated site picking water heaters and other industrial equipment from what looked like an over-sized 6 floor tape library. Two 11/34's running RSX11 ran the picker. One was down for weeks. Their 11/70 was half disassembled with two techs working on it. They were VAX trained at
Re: IBM 3174 C 6.4 Microcode Disks?
Simon Systems should be able to get you the microcode diskettes. I think they charged me around $35 USD when I bought in Nov. 2017. Send them an email and let them know what you need. https://simonsys.com/ On a side note, I may need to ping you off list...I've got an 11R and I'm curious if it can be converted to an 11L, since I'd prefer to channel attach it to my machine instead of use ethernet. -Jim From: Kevin Monceaux via cctalk Sent: Thursday, 14 February 2019 21:28 To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: IBM 3174 C 6.4 Microcode Disks? Classic Computer Fans, I posted this to the IBM-Legacy-Hercules mailing list. I just realized it probably wouldn't hurt to post it here too. I'm finally in possession of a box that hopefully is capable or can be made capable of connecting a real terminal to Hercules. It's a 3174 11L. It was retired last year where I work. I finally got the okay to save it from being sent to a scrapper. I love the build quality of older IBM gear, except when I'm trying to move such gear. Between the 3174 and a 9406-520 I also acquired, I pulled or strained something in my left arm moving them into place. It's currently wired to run on 220v. I think I've seen mentioned somewhere that it can be changed to run on 110v. If that's the case, does anyone have a pointer to documentation on what's involved? It has dual floppy drives. At least one drive is a 2.4MB drive. But, all the microcode disks I have are at level B 4.6. Does anyone know where I can get a set of C 6.4 control and control extension disks. From what I've heard those are what's needed to enable an attached terminal to connect to other systems via telnet. It has a token ring card. I will probably be able to get the MAU it was connected to, and possibly the router that acted as a token ring to Ethernet bridge. I'm not sure how much memory it has. Does anyone have any tips on determining the amount of memory it has, and/or identifying its boards? These are the numbers on its boards: 9210 9351 9052 z2 9053 9501 Plus the boards for coax connections. -- Kevin http://www.RawFedDogs.net http://www.Lassie.xyz http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org Bruceville, TX What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works! Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum. Posted by: Kevin Monceaux Yahoo Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ibm-legacy-hercules/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ibm-legacy-hercules/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: ibm-legacy-hercules-dig...@yahoogroups.com ibm-legacy-hercules-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ibm-legacy-hercules-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo Groups is subject to: https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/ -- Kevin http://www.RawFedDogs.net http://www.Lassie.xyz http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org Bruceville, TX What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works! Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum.
Re: IBM 3174 C 6.4 Microcode Disks?
Grant, On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 08:52:25PM -0700, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > Nice haul. I also acquired an RS/6000 7012-340, its 7208 8mm tape drive, and a couple of 9121 voice servers. It used to run DirectTalk/6000. > You mentioned telnet, which largely implies TCP/IP, which in combination > with Token Ring means specific things. Things which I question about > how much of a "bridge" the device was as much as a gateway. I might have the terminology wrong. I not very familiar with the token ring side of things. By the time I got into mainframe operations about twenty years ago we only had a few token ring devices left. The RS/6000 mentioned above was only connected to the token ring side of our network. It connected to the 3174 via token ring to screen scrape emulated 3270 sessions. Before the RS/6000 was shut down, I was able to telnet to it from my PC, which was on the Ethernet side of the network. The router in is the Cisco 2500 series, perhaps a 2513. I found this photo on the net, which looks like the router in question, if I remember correctly: https://kyozoufs.blob.core.windows.net/filestoragetcdb/Pictures/_30/29886/29885389.jpg As for using telnet on the 3174, I'm going by what I've seen posted on Hercules mailing lists about how others have connected real terminals to the Hercules mainframe emulator. A few pictures of such terminals connected to Hercules can be found at: http://CoreStore.org/emuterm.htm The posts I've seen say one either needs a router to act as a token ring to Ethernet bridge, or a PC with both token ring and Ethernet cards in it to act as a bridge. -- Kevin http://www.RawFedDogs.net http://www.Lassie.xyz http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org Bruceville, TX What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works! Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum.
Re: IBM 3174 C 6.4 Microcode Disks?
Jim, On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 10:23:30PM -0600, Jim Stefanik via cctalk wrote: > Simon Systems should be able to get you the microcode diskettes. I think > they charged me around $35 USD when I bought in Nov. 2017. Send them an > email and let them know what you need. Thanks!! I'll check with them. > On a side note, I may need to ping you off list...I've got an 11R and I'm > curious if it can be converted to an 11L, since I'd prefer to channel > attach it to my machine instead of use ethernet. Now I'm curious, as others on the list might also be. What machine do you have with bus and tag channels to connect an 11L to? Unfortunately I know nothing about converting an 11R to an 11L, or if it's even possible. -- Kevin http://www.RawFedDogs.net http://www.Lassie.xyz http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org Bruceville, TX What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works! Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum.
Re: IBM 3174 C 6.4 Microcode Disks?
Kevin, No problem in the link. As for my system, I've got a z800 (a 2066-0A1 to be exact). It's got ESCON, so I've got an Optica converter box of which the model number escapes me; but it's the replacement/alternative to the IBM Pacer boxes. That allows bus and tag gear to connect up to ESCON channels. As for converting R to L, I'll play around with stuff. Worst case, I'll just buy an 11L and use the 11R for spares or for messing around. --- Jim Stefanik Dallas Vintage Computing Center From: Kevin Monceaux via cctalk Sent: Thursday, 14 February 2019 23:07 To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: IBM 3174 C 6.4 Microcode Disks? Jim, On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 10:23:30PM -0600, Jim Stefanik via cctalk wrote: > Simon Systems should be able to get you the microcode diskettes. I think > they charged me around $35 USD when I bought in Nov. 2017. Send them an > email and let them know what you need. Thanks!! I'll check with them. > On a side note, I may need to ping you off list...I've got an 11R and I'm > curious if it can be converted to an 11L, since I'd prefer to channel > attach it to my machine instead of use ethernet. Now I'm curious, as others on the list might also be. What machine do you have with bus and tag channels to connect an 11L to? Unfortunately I know nothing about converting an 11R to an 11L, or if it's even possible. -- Kevin http://www.RawFedDogs.net http://www.Lassie.xyz http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org Bruceville, TX What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works! Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum.
a timer for the PC - screen tme for the kids
Before I develop this, I thought it may already exist, and the classiccmp mail list might be the place to ask. What we have, is the screen time problem with the kids. If we are not there hounding and policing them, they will be on for hours. All the medical community says, we need to limit their screen time, as it contributes to their AD disorder and schoolwork, homework failures. My idea was initially do this in hardware, with a timer, and a solid state relay to gate the AC to the PC. On further thought, I should be able to do this in software, with a timer that lets the PC run for an hour, and then shuts the PC down until the next 24 hour cycle. (Installs itself on windows startup) Has anybody seen this, before I re-invent the wheel? Randy
